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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilari, Charlamage the guy. We are
the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, Congressman.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
What's up man? What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
How you're feeling great?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Seventeen days away from early voting? Man? Really excited about
my campaign, Really excited to continue to build this grass
roots movement we've been building for the last four years.
I'm hype man, ready to go.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
You in the fight of your life right now.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Man.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I thought New York Magazine say that you are the
most endangered democrat in America.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Damn Yeah, that's crazy. You know, you can't speak up
for black people. You know, you can't speak up for Gaza.
You know what I mean. As soon as you start
speaking up for black and brown people, they're gonna attack you.
That's how white supremacy works. And so, you know, I
had the audacity to call for a permanent cease fire
very early on because we heard what they were saying.
They talking about amelac and cutting off food and water
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and using white phosphorus and you know, using genocidal line language.
And so we called for a ceasefire early, and when
you do that, Apak is going to attack you. They
don't want any kind of criticism of Israel. And so
we did that, and they've been coming after us. They're
gonna spend more money in this race than they have
ever spent in history to get the first black man,
first person to color in the US history out of
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the seat.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Two million, that was, no, two million a week.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
By the time we get to the end, it's gonna
be like twenty seven million. So even back in October,
they were running negative ads against me, trying to trying
to bully me into, you know, taking the position they
wanted me to take. And since over the last three weeks,
they've been spending like two million a week. And election
day is June twenty fifth, so they're gonna spend two
million a week up until election day. It will be
the most expensive primary in US history. So, you know,
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defeat worth that much shit to them. You know, what
I'm saying to them is worth that much because think
about it, before I was in office, before I was
in the seat, it was Elliott Ingle, Congressman Elliot Aingle,
who was the number one pro Israel hawk, you knowall
hawk chair the Foreign Affairs Committee. He was there for
thirty years, and right next to him was neither Lowi,
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who never had any criticism about Israel. Now you got
me coming in and I'm not you know, I'm not
against any state or whatever, but it's about human rights.
It's about justice. Like if you're not taking care of
the people next to you, and we're not doing the
right work for a Palestinian state and a free Palestine,
I'm gonna call that out. And so to them, they
don't want any criticism, they don't want anyone calling it out.
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And so I've been calling out from the beginning. But
at the same time, you know, our foreign policy and
what we're trying to stop there connects to what's happening here.
This is a group APAC. They're a racist organization first
and foremost eighty five percent of their money go towards
targeting black and brown people, right there's number one. Number
two They got true one hundred percent. And my opponent
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who's working with them, who's endorsed by them, has a
record that doesn't reflect doing anything for black and brown people,
or very little over the cost of his career, And
so they don't care about black and brown people in
my district. They don't care about people of Gaza. They
just care about their own power, and so that's why
they're coming for But we ain't gonna let them buy
the seat from the people. We decide. The people decide,
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the black and brown people, Progressive people, diverse coalition that
we have decide on who's going to win this election
on the twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Now, George, George him, from what I read, him and
Apex have said some pretty racist comments towards you. They
said they put out a mail or I haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It where your skin was darkened.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, like wow, that that's that's standard operating procedure and
that ain't even the.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Worst of it anything. They wish you had a stroke, yo.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Son he he. He posted a son on his Facebook page.
People started commenting on this on this post saying they
hope I have a stroke and referring to me as
a thug. He did not even comment, He didn't denounce it,
He didn't condemn it. He didn't even take it down
until the Working Families Party wrote him a letter. Wrote
wrote a public letter that put press on him, and
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then he took it down. He said at a black
history event in New Rochelle two black people that I
take money from Hamas. He said this publicly, and we
had to send our lawyers, had to send him a
seat in secession. Don't talk about me like that whilst
we're going to go after you. And then he tried
to deny and say no, I say take money from
supporters of a mosque, which is also fucked up to say,
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too right, But so you're saying I take money from
a terrorist organization. You're endorsed by a racist organization. Most
of their money come from racist maga right wing Republicans.
They're funded by Maga Republicans. Same Republicans taking out voting rights,
same people going after affirmative action, women's right to choose,
same people who supported the insurrectionists. This the people my
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so called opponent, Democrat opponent, his partner went to again
go after the first black man in the seat.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What's the demographics in your district?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
This majority minority, majority black and Latino, a very large
pro Israel component, Rightjewish, well, not just Jewish. I don't
want to talk about them as a monolith. They're different, right,
because there's Jews for Jamal shout out to Jews for
Jamal out there. You know they support me tremendously. Jewish
Voices for Peace if not. Now, these are great organizations
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working on good for our pose. But there is a
pro Israel segment of the district that's very active, very
outraged about my position, and they're going to go out
and vote. Like this is the ultimate get your ass
out and vote race. Like the black and brown people say, oh,
I don't vote this now whatever, this is the ultimate,
This is the ultimate moment to show our power. There
are forty thousand black and Latino men in the district
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who have never voted before. Like they don't even understand.
They could have decided governor, they could have decided county executive,
they could have decided local maya, and they can now
decide a congressman. They've never voted before.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Why do you think they're not energized? Like why do
you feel like they know?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I mean we know why?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So political system has never really done anything for black
people on a big level, right, Like, so, we are
co sponsor of a resolution calling for sixteen trillion I
think trillion in reparations for black people. My opponent is
against that. My opponent is like, it's not realistic. We
don't need to be talking about reparations for black people
at this time. So if you're black in America, for example,
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and the federal government has never taken up the issue
of reparations very seriously, why are you going to be
engaged in what's happening in the political process. The difference
now is you got someone like me there, first, black man,
raising the culture, single mom, working class educator. Finally in
Congress speaking the way I speak, and governing with the
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people the way I do. And so usually, like in
twenty twenty, we tripled voters turnout from twenty eighteen. Why
because they had a candidate they could believe in, they
could connect with, so they came out. We need those
numbers and then some in this race because if we
come out to vote in big numbers, my opponent doesn't
have a pathway to victory, doesn't have no matter what
money they spend. So this is the ultimate show our
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power as real progressives, people under fifty, people of color,
come out early. Voter news is June fifteenth is the
first a come out big numbers and just show our strength.
If we do that, we trained the trajectory of politics
in the district, in the county, and the state and
in the country.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
What's the biggest thing that you heard about yourself or
the biggest lies that they've been trying to tell, so
that you know, up here you can tell people what's
true or what's not true, because I mean, there's so
much online that you could just tell is just lies.
So what's the biggest things that you heard about yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
That Yeah, so they're trying to paint this picture out
there that you know, because I voted against a particular bill,
I'm against President Biden's agenda, right. The fact of the
matter is, I co wrote me personally, co wrote one
of President Biden's biggest bills, the Chips and Science Act,
which is going to bring back semiconductive manufacturing to our
country and particularly help us build wealth in black and
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brown communities. I wrote that provision into that bill. We
are pressured Biden to ban ghost guns across the country,
and he took action to ban ghost guns, which helped
reduce gun violence across the country. I worked with Elizabeth
Warren to engaged by it so that he could do
something to stop housing costs, rental costs from going up
because the rent is too damn high. Anyone who receives
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freedal money, we should be able to regulate rents. So
those are just three things. There were many more. At
the same time. If the president ain't doing right by
black and brown people in our communities on Gaza, I'm
gonna say something about that, like I'm not gonna just
be quiet on that. And that's good governance, right, It's
good to have that dialogue, have that debate. Hold myself,
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hold me accountable. Shit, we gotta hold each other accountable
in order to grow. So they're taking one vote, like
one of the ads I saw. I've been in there
three years now, voted a thousand times. They taken one
vote and trying to paint me as the devil because
I vote a particular way one time. The other thing
they're trying to say is they're using language like, oh
we don't like his style, Oh he's too bombastic. Right,
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this is like racially coded dog Wigleso language because you know,
those black people were not allowed to say nothing, you
know what I mean before Charlotte Man, it's nobody on
radio talking like you're talking talking, how y'all talk? So
they want they trying to. They're trying to disempower one
of my greatest strengths, which is my passion for people
and humanity and love and the work that we do.
So that's another thing they trying to do. And because
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they have so much money, they could just put it
on loops over and over and over again and begin
to brainwash people. I'm glad you said what you said.
Our people they see it right away, like that's some bullshit.
Right as soon as they see it, they're like, first
of all, I know him, I know the work he does,
I know what he is about, heart him talk a
million times. What you're saying is not accurately representing his right.
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We brought over a billion dollars to the district and
that's conservative forty million for gun violence, eighty eight million
for flood mitigation, investments in climate justice, education, mental health.
Again targeting particularly the areas that have been ignored, Mount Vernon, Yonkers,
the Bronx, Newell, black and brown areas. Like always, we
target in them because y'all ain't been doing he's been
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off his thirty five years. I've done more than three
years for black and brown people than he's done in
thirty five years. Is so like, let's debate that instead
of trying to talk about some some wild shit that
ain't even accurate.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
How did that out of all this affecting you mentally though?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
And the question man, listen, I try to go to
the gym a lot. You know, weightlifting really helps. I got,
you know, my wife and my kids. So after a
long day, I go home mammy and my wife turned
on the TV watching mindless. I lay on her and
we just you know, we chill. So you know, you
know how we eat right, exercise, you try to do
those things I don't. I ain't had a drink in
twenty twenty twenty four, so that's helpful as well. And
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and pray man like, like pray and meditate, yo, you
know that's uh. And have people pray for me, like
when I go to church, the church prays for me,
the mos prays for me. That's all very helpful because
some of the forces against me right now and against
us man and historically are evil forces man like, they
are not They're not here to help us man people
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people in polity. First of all, white supremacy is all
about power. This is white supremacist. It's all about power.
Hour It's all about control, whether it's foreign policy or
domestic policy. And so Congress is under control of big
money in politics. Big money in politics is driven by
white supremacy. A pack is a white supremacist organization and
their big money decides. Listen, in Congress, let me tell
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you what moves quickly. Anything related to police helping police,
or anything related to Israel. Those two things move quickly.
We write a bill today, we voted on that shape tomorrow.
But what about raising the federal minimum wage, or universal childcare,
or affordable housing or workforce development programs. You know, one
of the criticisms of Biden is we passed all these
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historic bills the first five years, the first two years
I was in Congress. But then on the ground, people
are still struggling to find good jobs and make enough
money and afford their housing, afford their childcare. And I
always remind people, not only Biden is for we got
to vote down ballot. Who is sending the US Senate?
Who we send it to Congress? What about the state
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we send it? The state we send a state in
the county billions of dollars, the state in the county
decide how they're gonna use that money. So if we're
not active politically locally, they're not gonna listen to us.
They just gonna spend the money how they want to
spend it. And so that's why we need everybody involved,
not just for me and my race. Like I'm good,
like God forbid, I lost, I got some talent, I
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get a job, be all right, It's not about me.
It's about what we all represent. Like we represent justice,
we represent humanity, we represent the American dream for real,
for real opportunity. And that's why everybody got be involved.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
You know, I wanted to ask you because you made
me think it's something. Don't want you to expound on
that more. How do you keeping your position benefit the
people in our community.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So it's important what we speak about and how we
speak about it is very important. Right. The person who
was in the seat before me probably never spoke about
universal childcare as being a north star where we got
to go as a country. Right, never spoke about fully
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funding our public schools and the idea that in my district,
if you live in Scarsdale, right, we're spending ten twenty
thousand more per kid than if you live in the Bronx, Right,
like that issue, the issue of the issue, not just
the issue of reducing gun violence, but like being on
the ground with the family when they lose a son
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and grieving with that family at a vigil, but then saying,
we gotta fucking do something about this, because it's not
just about thoughts and prayers. Okay, we got a right
to buy it and tell him buying to take action
on gun violence, and he did that right. Young girls
stabbed to death in Mount Vernon right again, not just
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being with the family and showing up and talking about
what's going on, having particularly me like, I'm an educator.
I have a doctor in education. My focus has been
on trauma, so I know the impact of individual and
collective trauma on communities and I use that to drive policy.
So when the young girl stabbed a death, we not
just thoughts and prayers. It's like, okay, what's the policy
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solution here. How do we bring in money to target
at risk girls so they have a place to go
and something to do. That's not just about you know,
you know, the normal things we have girls do QDQ
and cheerlead and all that. There's other things, so it's
about that kind of thing. So it's about lived experiences.
My lived experiences, my professional experiences as an educator, gives
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me a perspective that guides how I govern with the people.
And so that's critical versus the offense. Seventy year old
white man, career, corrupt, corporate, pay to play politician that's
partnering with big money, racist MAGA Republicans and an election
deniers while saying crazy shit like I take money from
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Hamas and allowing people to say I have a stroke
and call me a Doug. Do you want that kind
of person to see? That kind of person who's literally
supporting the genocide in Gaza right now. So while I
called for a ceasefire early, he's never done that. While
I called it a genocide early, he's never done that.
This individual is working with APAX to support a genocide
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and Gaza babies being burnt alive and raugh for just
a couple of days ago. He supports that. Doesn't want
to criticize that in Yahoo, he supports that. So you
want somebody like that in office, or someone like me
who spent my entire life dedicated to people least lost
and left behind, mostly intlected, most marginalized. I was in
education for twenty years. When I saw shit wasn't working
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in education, I opened my own school and ran that
school's in middle school principal for ten and a half years.
I saw shit wasn't working for my kids in the community.
I said, fuck it, I'm running for Congress. See what happened.
Ran for Congress, won, and now we're in Congress building power.
So we building power. They scared to death for that shit.
And so this is why we gotta we gotta come
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out in droves for this race and beyond because we
got to build power all that. I don't vote ship,
you've given your power the white supremacy.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
But but you said, uh, you know the guy George
Latimer is supporting uh genocide in gods? Yes, right, so
why support him? People say the same thing about President Biden.
Yeah yeah, So how do you how do you get
because that's what it gets. That's when it feels like
everybody talking about both sides of their mouth.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
That's it. That's that's the that's the toughest question I get, right,
And that's why we have been You.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Can't say don't support this guy, could yeah, what was
going on the genocide and God?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But then support president.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But yeah, so that's the That's the number one thing
we've been consistently critical of the President on is his
response to Gaza and his response to and Yahoo and
not doing more the whole and Yahoo accountable. The US
government should not be sending another weapon to Israel right now.
We should not be sending another dime to Israel right now, period.
And the President said his red line was rafa, that
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red line was crossed. We need to stop sending weapons, period.
So I get it. I get how people feel. Anything
I would say to that, and I hate the lesser
to evil shit. I hat hate it. I hate it. However,
I was sworn into Congress January third, twenty twenty one.
Three days later, they attacked the fucking US capital. Five
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people were killed that day, five people died since then,
And if they would have got their way, multiple members
of Congress would have been killed. Trump led an insurrection,
and he's on some deport these Latinos. We're going to
do something with the radical left, which is me. You know,
Muslim bands dictator for a day. Y'all heard the Project
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twenty five, like they're talking about, like, you know, using
military to quell protests. That's some whole other shit that
I don't even imagine what that could possibly be. But
because historically we haven't had political power, we're continually left
with choices that some people feel aren't great for either side.
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I could tell you I've been I've been a member
of Congress while President Biden has been president, and when
we had control of the House, we did way more governing.
We did way more, we passed way more laws, did
way more good things. His achilles heels right now is gaza,
and he needs to respond differently to that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
What did you think about Nikki Haley signing the bombs
and all that, And.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
She's a she's a fucking she's a I was gonna say,
so crazy's she's a white supremacist man. So that's not
that's not surprising me. Again, there's people like her in
Congress who believe in peace through strength and peace. True
strength means peace for white people, and we'll kill and
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bomb and destroy any other country, particularly black and brown,
if we want to. That's what peace through strength mean.
So signing the bomb is an ode to the military
industrial complex. And we're strong and we're mighty, and no
one can defeat us. It's like many of my colleagues
don't understand diplomacy, don't understand peace, don't understand negotiation. And
when you consider the communities we all came from, we
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did that shit every day, block the block, you know,
to make sure like shit didn't blow up to something
crazy and no one got killed. And people still get killed.
But we try to reduce that as much as possible.
We do that every day project the project. But fucking
in Washington, it's like it's just you know, doctor King said,
the the three ills we got to continue to fight
going forward, racism, capitalism, and militarism, And those are three
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same things we're fighting right now. We got to continue
to fight those things.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
What do you think about black and brown people? A
lot of people saying, you know, what's going on in
guys in Israel, ain't ol fight an ain't our problem.
We have so many other problems when nobody comes to
our defense. We have so many issues that nobody helps
to sell on our issues. So why should we dive
into what's happening over there?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
So it's yeah, so it's both, it's white supremacy. So
what's happening in gods of what's happening in the Congo,
what's happening to Dan, what's happening in Caribbean. It's all
part of white supremacy. It's a part genocide of the
natives and slavering of the Africans, colonization of the continent,
destruction of Latino countries to force mass migration. Climate justice
is all under the umbrella white supremacy. So we should
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all be serious about the feeding white supremacy. But also
we send three point eight billion in Israel every year.
They're already a wealthy country and already a powerful country.
Some have written that they don't even need our three
point eight billion. That three point eight billion could be
coming a Mount Vernon, Yonkers, Bronx, New Shell, all the
communities that have been redlined and neglected. What we spend
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on the military can be coming here. Not all of it,
because we got to defend ourselves, but more of it. Right,
So that's why it matters. It matters like I don't
want my taxpayer money going to commit genocide. I want
my taxpayer money coming here to help me have childcare,
to help me pay for my housing, to help me,
you know, develop myself in terms of workforce, to help
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me pay for education, transportation, quality of life. We have
the biggest wealth in equality in this country since the
guilded age right now, and in my district. When you
look at every outcome, health outcomes, education outcomes, economic outcomes, wealth,
Black and Latino people at the bottom. Black's way bottom.
And so that money that we spent on genocide can
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come here to help us.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
What would the congressman, what do you think the appropriate
response to October seventh would have been?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Because also with the congressman, you know, war is a.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Part of it.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah right, you know, like, so what would the appropriate
response have been?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, go after Hamas, not all the civilians, you know
what I'm saying. So when we went into Iraq, we
went to Afghanistan. You know, first we went in trying
to blow everybody up, and then we were much more surgical,
much more strategic, and we got Bin louder than we
got Saddamus saying, what do you want surgical?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Because even when they had those conversations, but what they
call them insurgents.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, the women and the children, like they just say,
you know, correct, correct, right, But that's what I'm saying.
Initially we were we were just going in and killing everybody.
That's what Israel's doing right now in Gaza, killing everybody.
And they use language like this. The president said, there
are no innocent civilians in Gaza. Uh and yah yah
who said remember amalac, which is a biblical reference to
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a genocidal attack. Right, They color food, water, use white phosphorus,
et cetera, et cetera. You know right now as a
famine setting in because they're not letting the food get in. Right.
So this right here are these are war crimes and
what could have been done is a surgical response to
get Hamas. But here's the bigger picture here. Hamas is
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not a people, it's an idea. It's an idea that
that festers and nurtures in the minds of people who
are historically oppressed. And so we have to deal with
the oppression, not just the people who have been nurtured
as a result of the oppression. So Israel has been
as referred to as apartheid state. Now Jamal Bowman's words,
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the UN Human Rights watched other organizations apartheid state. Right,
So that means these people are growing up in apartheid. Right.
There's a military occupation for seventy five years in the
West that is against international law. There's settlement expansion into
the West Bank or what's supposed to be a Palstinian
state seven hundred thousand people that is against international law.
There's the consistent detaining of women and children without due
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process in the West Bank. This is these war crimes,
and so you got people growing up in that. So
it's not to justify anything. We condemned October seventh, absolutely outright,
because killing civilians is wrong. That's a war crime, absolutely,
but you can't condemn October seventh and then not condemn
what's happened since then or what happened before that. And
so surgical approach in this moment is better, But what's
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actually better is peace. We've been talking about two state solution.
We're the Palestinian state. I went there like I went
to Israel. I went to the West Bank. I've been
to Hebron and Ramala, and the place that's supposed to
be a Polstadian state, it has seven hundred thousand illegal
settlers from Israel on that land. So how are we
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going to have a state? We lion like, stop lying
to the people into ourselves. You want to stop hamas
and stop extremism. Let's have diplomacy and equity and opportunity
and stop trying to maintain his white supremacist canstas.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
What I've heard a lot of Progrial people saying is
that Harmas doesn't want peace, like Hamas's whole mission is
to wipe Jewish people off to face it face of
the earth.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And that's why we gotta we gotta deal with Hamas.
The other part of that is in Yahoo empowered Hamas
over the course of years to destabilize the Palestinians so
that because Nan Yahu doesn't want a Palestinian state, yao,
who wants the Palestinians to leave and if they don't leave,
he will kill them. That's what he wants, so they
can have all the land, that's what he wants. And
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so he's been empowering Hamas to undermine the PLO and
the Positilian authority so that they don't rise up as
as quality leaders because then it will be pressure on
him to have a Palestinian state. So then Yahoo is
a fucking nightmare in this whole scenario. But the US
got to step in. We are the ones who support
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there are allies, Okay, hold our allies accountable. We want
to keep them safe. Let's have a Palestinian state. You
can have a safe Israel and a safe Palestine. You
could fight anti Semitism and have a free Palestine. And
that's what should we should be focused on. It's like
we we don't. We don't have complex, nuanced thinking or
even the heart as we deal with these issues. Lead
with the heart first and not with fucking missiles.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Like why do you leftist?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Some leftist say they don't feel like you're critical enough
of Israel because.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Oh, clearly.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And clearlywise yeah, I mean, I mean I don't know, man,
I think there's there's there's purity tests out there, you
know what I mean, where like oh.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
If you if you don't say this word this way
on in this medium, then then then you're not critical.
But like again, it's not about Israel, right, It's about humanity, right.
It's about who are we as a human race? And
who are we trying to be? You know what I'm saying.
Are we trying to just be in a cycle of
you know, disagreement, conflict, violence, war, genocide so that I
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can have power and you can't. Is that just We're
just going to be in that human cycle for the
rest of human existence. All we're going to like put
the guns down, come together and figure out the way
to share this planet abundantly together. I think we can
do that. I think there's enough space for everyone to
have land, home, food, clothing, shelter and realize their dreams.
(26:24):
But why supremacy stops that from happening? And that's why
that you know, the movie Origin and the book Cast
is so powerful because it talks about that cast system.
It's not just here, it's all over the place, and
it's like, fuck, man, like, can't we just figure out
how to live here together without the bullshit?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I got one more question by is before I'm ask
you saything else, because I really don't know. Why are
both parties so beholden to isral? Is it because of
the money that comes from APEC? Like why what is it?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I think that's part of it. I think that's a
major part of it. APAK writes resolutions and bills for
us to vote on, and they also fund the re
election campaign of like the majority of members of Congress
Republican and Democrat. That's amazing, that's amazing, And if you
do something against them, they will come after you very aggressive,
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like they're doing in my race. When we first got
to Congress, one of the things we learned of what
was happening is Israel wasn't sending vaccines to Palestinians, which
is their responsibility as an occupying power. So we wrote
a letter to the concert. Yo, y'all got to send
them vaccines, Like, what are we doing consultly? You know?
All kinds of people responded online, crazy, Oh he's talking
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about Israel. We met with the consulates, etc. Et cetera,
good meeting. It was good. We co sponsored a bill
with one of my colleagues that only said, only asked
the question, what are you doing with our money? We
want to make sure you're not using our money to
detain women and children unjustly. We just co sponsored the bill.
It didn't have a vote. No one took a vote
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on it. It definitely wasn't going to pass. They sent
a thousand let us to my office. We couldn't even
do our job for like a week or two because
they styre constantly bombarded in our office. They were protesting
outside my mouth Vernon office Israeli flag like and so
so my colleagues don't want to deal with that. Many
of them they're like, Yo, I'd rather just chill. Let
me keep this cushiony seat. It's a very cushy job. Man.
(28:19):
You know what I'm saying. You don't make a lot
of money. You know what I'm saying when you got
kids and family. But every night in DC there's some
lobbyist group throwing a free party with free food and
free drinks in a very nice hotel. And you in
DC look over looking the Capitol drinking. You're like, oh,
this is nice.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
We've got the cocaine.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Though I have no idea. That's why I listen.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
They found them in the White House.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I know, allegedly. I don't know. Man, listen, let me
tell you what I do. When I'm there. I'll vote
and I take my asshome.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That you feel about the rematch between Biden and Trump?
How do you think it's going.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I hope this is you know again, I support President Biden,
even though I'm totally against everything he's doing in Gayza,
I think he's a better president. And as a Democrat,
if we have the House and the Senate and he's president,
we're going to do stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
We've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
We we have done stuff though we're talking about we've
done heard that he saved the economy even when Trump
was in office. We saved the economy.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
We heard that last time, but then everything got put
the blame got put on Joe Manson and Christen Cinema
and the whole.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Democracy. Right. And so it's interesting because you all saw
a brother, brother Rashad Balau, a clip from him shout.
He was talking about Biden and how people are not
energized by Biden, and and he's right about that. But
one somebody in the comments was like, yo, we got
thirty US Senate races. Look down ballot like you gotta
look down ballid. They don't have a tell us that.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
And I agree with you, but that when we put
Biden in office, they were saying the same thing, right,
do y'all know these thingate is better than us? Y'all
know who not on the same page as y'all? Why
why volunteered that? You know we're all gonna be in
line and then is gonna have to tie.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Break again again. I'm gonna come back to your question,
but again it's it's you know, American Rescue Plan, chips
and science that bills we could point to that we
passed that we went and pass if we didn't have
all through, right, so real results there. But in terms
of the thirty down ballots, you get the right senators
in the Senate. Now we could do more shit. Also,
(30:25):
there's something called the filibuster. Please please have someone I
think there's a book called kill Switch. I'm forgetting the
ought to have him here to talk about the filibuster
because right now what we have in the Senate, this
is why we need democracy reform, the democracy reform because
it's not like a simple majority in the Senate could
pass a bill. You need sixty forty and so what
we have is minority rule where fifty senators from smaller
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states with less people have as much power in the
fifty senators. Right, So that that's part of it. But
in terms of the rematch, like again sport By then
Obie winning, so we could govern together and do more stuff.
But what they represent, both of them, I hope, is
the end of that kind of politics. Man, Like, it's
time to evolve into the democracy we can be for everyone, right,
(31:13):
and we need new candidates, right, we need Aana Presley,
we need uh, you know, Wes Moore. We need Gretchen Whitmore,
we need Yeah, we need new thinking people, shaparro people
with new ideas, new thoughts, engage the community differently, and
that has to happen in twenty twenty eight. I hate
talking about that now. My hope is whoever wins this election.
(31:38):
I hope it's not Biden. I mean Trump, who tries
to do some some stay in office forever ship and
we could get him out that. Yeah, but you know,
because I don't know what he's gonna do, and I
don't know how the military is gonna respond to his
orders and like real dangerous ship. But whoever it is,
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four years, like twenty twenty eight, it got to be
a whole new America and a whole new farm policy.
So that's that's my hope.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
A couple more questions really, this one.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
They had a story out there that you had a
secret YouTube page, Yeah, and you would subscribe to channels
that shared like anti Semitic, flat earth and Illuminati conspiracy videos.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah? I don't even remember that shit, Like whatever the
YouTube page was or whatever. I mean, I don't know.
Sometimes you like things, you see a good video that
was like, oh, that shit was well, he said, it
was kind of interesting. Let me subscribe it.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
But why can't you watch?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Is what I'm saying. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Agree, but it's about creating the perception that I'm a
conspiracy theorist, radical black nut job. You know, that's what
they're trying to do. This guy is not for for office.
He files conspiracy theories and shit that that's what they're
trying to do. We should be watched whatever we want.
I don't even know what page they're talking about, so
when I saw that, I'm like, I don't even remember
any of this.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
So Marjorie Jaylor Green's a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Man, but she's in what what what what district? And Georgia,
She's in parts of Georgia. So got you got you
got Georgia, yo, Like fucking uh herschel Walker almost won
that sentence right against Rafaeld Walnock, who's the most upstanding,
one of the most upstanding people I've seen in my life,
warnoc hershel Walker talking about was he talking about zombies
(33:16):
and whale wolves or something like that? He almost won,
Like Warnock only won, but like percentage points. So Georgia
and parts of Georgia is a different beasts.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I feel I feel like, you know, with us, I
feel like we always you know, I'm talking about black
and brown people. I feel like we lose so much,
right because if you look at the presidency before into
my opinion, my knowledge of what I've seen, it was
about what's going on with us, Right. We could talk
about healthcare, we could talk about you know, free education,
we could talk about all these different things. But now
it seems like the last six months the only topics
(33:47):
and the only talking points have been gayza in Israel,
and that just it just seems so so what happened
from there? Because that's that's all I'm talking about. I mean,
when when Biden you know, went to you know, More
House and he was talking the biggest thing that we
took out if it was him talking about the guys
in Israel. When when all these things happen, it just
seems like we lose the focus of what I'm not
gonna say important because that is important, but what's also important.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
That's why America first resonates with people.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, no, no, one hundred percent. And who's that is
that Trump's thing? Yeah, that's Trump's saying and that's Republicans thing.
I mean, they're completely full of shit. But yeah, I
know why they say that, you know, yeah, it's that's
why in twenty twenty eight, even now though, but that's
why in twenty twenty eight we need a whole at
the top of the ticket. We need like people to
constantly bring it back here. Like the fact that federal
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minimum wage is seven twenty five an hour. When I
first got the Congress, we tried to raise it to fifteen.
We couldn't do that. It's crazy. The fact that we
don't have a federal paid leave program like and other
developed countries have paid leave. You you know, you have
a child, you get to stay home with your child
X amount of time. I'm I'm really radical with this.
I think you should have like two years paid person.
(34:57):
That's right because Russian back it's a Russian rushing back
to work with three months or a few weeks. That's
breaking a sacred bond between mother and child.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
The only problem with that is is if it's a
small business, it hurts.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
If it's a.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Major corporation, correct, it's a little different. But if it's
a small business and you got three employees and that's
one of your biggest employees that handles things that she
can't be out for two months, two years, because yeah,
you would have to pay and then bringing somebody else.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
The federal government step in. We wouldn't be calling on
the business to do it. The federal government needs to
step in and do it. That's why we support universal
health care Medicare for all, because small businesses are really
hurt by this. They gott to provide health care so
the employees that really hurts their bottom line, if the
federal government took that from them, had a single pay
of system, they wouldn't have to do that. And so
these are policies that if implemented accordingly, we're going to
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have incredible economic results because now we got generations of
children who are not growing up in trauma because their
mama is home with them nurturing them, or because we
have universal childcare to take care of them. But instead
what we have is a system that's everything based on
open free market capitalism, and so we don't have enough childcare.
(36:14):
So you got kids growing up in trauma, and those
are kids who end up in the school of prison pipeline.
So if we did it right, not just with that policy,
but others. You will see economic growth tremendously, right. You
will see a decrease in jail and police costs because
you don't need it as much. And you will see
a decrease in health care costs because guess what, when
your brain develops accordingly, because you're not dealing with trauma,
(36:36):
you have better overall health outcomes. Again, this is research
look up adverse childhood experiences and aces, research projects done
many many years ago in the medical field. And so
we need scholarship and humanity to drive our politics. Right now,
we have big money and war and fucking racism driving
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our politics.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I'm glad you said. I'm glad you brought up the
minimum wage too. I was in Florida Saturday. One of
my book sign as a sister named Kim. She had
a broke leg and she was like, this is why
Joe Biden is gonna have to earn my vote, because
he didn't fight hard enough to get federal minimum wage increase,
and he didn't fight hard enough to pass voting RECs.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
When you actually talk to people, when you actually travel
the country and talk to people, Yeah, yeah, you get
to really see what's on people This.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Is why he and his people got to go talk
to pet right, right, because again like like I could
say right because I know a little bit more, not more,
but different perspective because of in Congress, I would say
the Joe Mansion thing, and also the Supreme Court shit,
right like and what they've done with voter rights and
other bills. But again like that, like I don't want
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to hear I ain't voting shit. The system don't work
for me. The system don't work for us historically because
of racism and all the shit, and that's kept us away.
So we haven't been able to build power. We have
to build power right now going forward so that we
don't have this this dilemma where we're picking too candidates
where most people won't like either one of them. We
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have to build the power in our communities and in
our political system so that we are deciding who the
next president is, next governor and next county executive, next mayors,
but also the down ballot and in between. People go
back to the static day before forty thousand black and
Latino men in the district have never voted. They could
have decided when you so in the west Chester County
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when you decide who the county executive is. That person
has a two point three billion dollar budget. That person's
going to make decisions about that budget. If you are
voting engaged in the process, you could then be like, yo,
you better put money over here. We vote in your
ass out of office. When you go walk through parts
of Yonkers, you think you walk through something one hundred
years ago, like go Yonkers, YMCA, YWCA, Mount Vernon was
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in girls club. It's a travesty that these it's these
organizations look like they haven't had any investment in one
hundred years. And if I go to again of all
parts of my district, right Scottsdale, but they're YMCA after
Hurricane I was built again in like a month two
months because they got the resources to do it and
it's state of the art, while we got to keep
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not having stated the ardship. I want to stay the
odd ship for all people, but particularly historically marginalized people
in my district, Mount Vernie, Yokos, the Bronx, et cetera.
But all over the country, where do they go to us?
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June fifteen.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
All right, we appreciate you for joining us. Before you
walked in, Jess and I were talking about, you know,
Trump pulling up on your district. Yes, and what did
you think about that, especially with the sleepy hollow.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Is just like, oh my god, he's about to talk
for another ten minutes.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
He pulled a bit of district. What did you think
about it? So it wasn't my district. It was the
South Bronx South, So it wasn't my district. I mean,
Trump is a fucking clown, like his whole shit. He's
a caricature and that's how he acts, you know, and
that's how he behaves.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
So everything with him is the show's there. It's the bullshit,
And so I ain't really you know, my sister shout
to AOC. She went out there and did account of protests,
and I know other local elected officials did count of protest,
but he said twenty thousand. It was like thirty five
hundred there, like it wasn't really twenty He's a clown.
I hope he goes away literally, you know, gets held
(40:50):
accountable for what he's done. But uh, I just I
just can't wait to move forward from him and MAGA
and raise the consciousness of the people.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Man as Congressman Jamal Bowman, we appreciate you for joining
us this morning.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake that ass up
in the morning.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
The Breakfast Club