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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody's DJ n V Jesse Larius Charlamagne the guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
In the building.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes, indeed, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
She's back a morning, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
How you feeling it's too early?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
You told to be in the jibe? Okay, your party
is in the job, So beings.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
In a job is your party? Congress Woman just at
Broccoli Festival party.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
And I was it was amazing too, and they let
me on stage. So black people with their black job
is this November?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
How did they react to that? Were they energized? They
were energized. It was great. I did a couple of things.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I asked them if they had heard of Project twenty
twenty five, and the crowd was like yes, So that
made me really happy. I also kind of did this
calling response where I was like, already, so your black
job this November is to vote. And so I came
back right before Meg got on stage and I was like,
I'm just back to make sure that y'all remember what
your job is.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And they did.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
So they were engaged the entire time. It was really
a great crowd, and it was talking to people that
I feel like politicians don't take the time out to
talk to.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Absolutely, So yeah, very happy to be there.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Where were you when you got the news that Democrats actually,
you know, summoned up some courage and said, you know what,
the time for President Biden to move aside, which they
should have done a year ago. But we're not judging
where were you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I'm not doing this with you.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I actually was in bed, so I don't remember where
I've been traveling so much.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I had just been to Phoenix with the Second Gentleman.
We had just done an office opening. I had just
come back from Africa, actually did over thirty hours to
go out there to campaign for the Biden Hairs ticket,
and so I had just fallen back on a red eye.
I got back like Saturday morning, wee hours of the morning,
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and then Sunday I was like, okay, I'm gonna take
a day a risk. It was nothing like dead, I'm sure,
but I was literally laying in bed when I found
out because I.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Saw the tweet that you put on and you weren't
that happy about them making the decision.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
So for me, it's all about how you do stuff
and you know, like you're like, hey, this is a
conversation that should have took place a year ago if
there were concerns. I agree with you that this is
something that should have been part of the conversation earlier.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
But I also felt like it was very disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
This is a man who really does have an exemplary record,
like the record that I am going to put out
there as a campaign for.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
The vice president.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
They share this great record of accomplishment, but for them
not to have more tact about this and not to
look as crazy as we look where everything was Democrats
kind of doing this in fighting.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
It's like, wait a minute.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
The Republicans, they have lined up with a rapist convicted
you know, fell in like they fraud, Like they have
lined up behind this guy who we know was telling
us ignorant stuff like inject yourself with bleach and y'all
want to tell me because he was stumbling and fumbling
over words in a debate when we know that he
was born with a stutter. I mean, these are people
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that are justifying January sixth. I'm like, if they can
say that those people were just on the little tour
and they were good patriots. Then y'all can stand by
this record. And you know, if you have concerns about
the lack of excitement for the base, then this is
a conversation that I think it still would have went
the same way if it was behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
But we really did.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Ourself our own harm. Like that's where the harm. It
wasn't coming from Republicans. It wasn't Republicans attacking us. It
was us attacking us. And so I think that it
does set a bad precedence.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Right, But now a week later, a couple dollars raised,
voters people excited.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I mean you and I have talked about the VP before.
You know that, like I ride and rock hard with her,
always have, right, So the way that I describe it
is a rollercoaster of emotions.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Right, It was definitely a low the way that it happened.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
That showed a lack of unity.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yes, absolutely showed a unity outside the house like the house.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I like that either I felt like people were switching sides,
which I think it needed to be done, but I
just felt like, let me, let me.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Let me, let me give you some in house info.
I'm not gonna snitch on nobody because I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't say I don't. I don't do that all
right most of the time. But here's the deal.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You know, it's great that the vice president is the
presumptive nominee. Let me tell you something. As people were
calling for the president to step down, it wasn't that
they were all like, oh, yeah, we want Kamala. I
had a lot of coworkers that were like, it can't
be either one of them, okay. So that was another
reason that I was riding so hard because I'm like,
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wait a minute, what we not gonna do is in fact,
in that tweet, I made it clean. I'm not messing
with nobody else. It's the vice president or y'all go
figure this out. Like I'm not going out there. I'm
not getting out there because y'all are playing games. So
what we had to do is like behind the scenes,
we had to strategically get ourselves together quickly. So I
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sent out a letter of endorsement to all of the
delegates out of the state of Texas to make sure
that they knew where I stood, and tried to get
them to stand on business as well. And so we
as Black Caucus members and some other caucus members immediately
started getting in touch with delegates because if there was
any daylight between his announcements and her coming out strong,
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then they would have tried to get somebody else. In fact,
they were trying to get other people. I know y'all
saw the Joe manchiinton By he was talking about, well,
I may need to be president, the hell you do
not in the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
The child child.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Are you surprised us of the energy Doe, because you know,
like you said, a lot of people necessarily didn't think
that that ticket, k wim. Now the energy is different,
but when they first announced, were you surprised that the
energy immediately? She raised so much money immediately and people
are coming out and droves immediately.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I was surprised.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I was surprised, but I was pleasantly surprised because I
think that a lot of us, especially like black folk,
we get nervous, right because we have seen the level
of racism and vitriol that Trump has ushered in and
he wins over voters that way. So now when we
start talking about people of color, I mean, we know
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that the entire movement started with Obama, right, Like it
was like this backlash type situation. So yes, I was nervous,
but I am happy that thus far we've got the energy.
Now the question is can we keep this energy through November?
Can we transform this energy into votes? And I'm hoping
that we can.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
How long do you think this honeymoon shase with the
vice president is going on? Because it's still the same
old Democratic Party? So what changes would you like to
see in the Democratic Party? Since they made this massive
change at the top of the ticket, what other changes
would you like to see the keep that energy going.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, I mean, I think that there's a clear signal
that overall we're wanting younger leadership, and there has been
a gatekeeping for a very long time throughout every level
of government. When it comes to the Democratic Party, we
don't really allow for the younger voices to get in.
(07:33):
The fact that I'm considered young is really a problem
in my opinion. The only young person that I see
in Congress is Maxwell Frost.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Okay, I know he's gen Z, so he's super young.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
But overall, I think that we should start to engage
in more partnerships and mentorships where you're actually training somebody up.
I think that there's always this fear that if I
start to mentor somebody then they will then try to
leap frog me instead of recognizing like, this is your strength,
this is your power, you over here. But at the
same time, we need an actual pipeline, and we need
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to start promoting like what that pipeline looks like. One
of the issues that we have in the Democratic Party
is everybody sits around and says, Okay, who's next. There
is no pipeline, right Like, everybody's sitting around asking questions,
and we should say this person got next because we've
seen them doing this and that. So that's one of
the things that I would like to see.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And who's planning the festivities at the d n C.
The DNC got to be piped up to seriously because
the r n C say what you want.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It looked lived, Yes, it.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Looks it looked like it look yes, not that I
know that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
That's a problem because.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I said not that I know.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Well, I'm not saying no, you're correct, because you know,
if I'm gonna have to do a speech, I'm gonna
have to do a speech, right like it's gonna to
be a good one. But no, I have no idea.
They have not laid that out. The entire DNC program
has to change though, right every day. Everything was built
around Joe Biden, and now it's going to be built
around Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But it should and it should be built around Kamala Harrison.
It should be built around the next generation of Democrats.
I want to see Governor Whitmore on the stage. I
want to see govern Shapiro, Governor Wes Moore, I want
to see you. You know. I want them to go
get people like John Stewart, like the same way that
you know the RNC was using nostalgia and had people
like Hulk Hogan. That's what I would like to see.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, well I will have the right musical acts.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Now. Now as we start looking for vice presidents, who
do you like and not just one person, but who
do you like and who do you think will be
the best fit. Because people are realizing this is like
a I don't want to say, like a basketball game, but
you have to size up who's going to be the
best fit and who's going to be the best help.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
For that got to be a white man. You have
to do a DEI hire and hire a white man.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Do you think it has to be a white man.
Could it be a white woman from Michigan? Can it
be somebody else that's black? But what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
The majority of the picks look like or the majority
of the options look like white men. So I'm going
to assume it's going to be a white man, right,
you know? I us the Vice President and her.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Ability to pick.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think the characteristist that she's going to look for
as a good partner because when it came down to
her and Joe Biden, it was more of a partnership.
Same thing with him and Barack Obama. It was a partnership,
and so I think that that's what she'll look for.
I don't know what her relationships are like with some
of the governors. I can say that, in my mind,
Senator Kelly is somebody that she's consistently worked for or
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worked with because she has been the president of the Senate,
and so she probably understands how he works. She understands
his relationships in the Senate. The governors haven't worked in
the Senate, so I would think that she has a
natural inclination to potentially go with him, But I don't know.
In addition, to the fact that when we start looking
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at the map, right, you take a governor for sheer, Well,
I don't know that we gonna get another democratic governor
over in Kentucky, right, But when you look at Arizona,
if for some reason Mark Kelly comes out of that spot,
then we have a democratic governor, and she's the one
that appoints another Democrat to that spot. So we don't
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end up messing with the balance of power in the
Senate either.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Like mar Kelly, he looks he looks Maga White's an astronaut.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Now he's an astronaut, and he's a veteran, and he's
very big on gun violence, and it's something that she's
very passionate about.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And we know that it's something that gen Z is
very passionate about.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And honestly, old black folk and hood we want to
get the guns off the streets too.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So, I think that all of those things make for
a really decent pig. But I don't know. I don't
know what they're looking at. I would imagine that they
are also doing some internal polling. I would guess that
they're doing some internal polling to kind of try to
figure out who moves the scale where and how well
known somebody is too, because we're not talking about a
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lot of time to introduce your vice president.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You got one hundred days.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And Mark Kelly is also probably the best known, and
he is very strong when it comes to fundraising. He
did ninety million dollars to raise for his last Senate race,
So I think that that also will end up factoring in.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I'm two a all day, by the way, but I
do believe in common sense gun reform.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh listen, I me too. I'm licensed to carry right.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
But like the fact that everybody and anybody got access
to any and everything, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It is a problem, especially in Texas. Congress Woman in Texas,
that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Now, when you say freedoms are on the line, that's
something you say a lot. Explain to our audience. What
do you mean when you say freedoms are on the line.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, And I think that's the thing that you're gonna
keep saying with this campaign. As we know that the
theme song is Beyonce's Freedom Right, So when we start
looking at diversity, equity, and inclusion, they keep trying to
attack it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
But let's be real about it.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
And I think that it's been good to have the
conversation because when we look at things like affirmative action,
it's been white women that have benefitted more than anybody.
So when they start saying things like we're gonna get
rid of affirmative action, even though they are taking aim
at us, we still had not gotten our do when
it came to it. So that's why a lot of
black folk are like, Yo, affirmative action needs to stay
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in place, because we still haven't gotten to where we
needed to get to.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So that's number one.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
And when we start talking about affirmative action and diversity, equity,
and inclusion, it's not just getting into schools.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
While most people know the Supreme.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Court case as it relates to Harvard, it's not just
that they are trying to bleed this over into business opportunities. Right,
So when we start looking at contracting and whether or
not black contractors are going to get contracting opportunities, they're
trying to.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Use this as the catalyst.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
For why we can't then say, oh, we've got to
make sure that we have metrics that we're trying to
hit for black businesses. This is affecting us economically. When
we look at the Fearless Fund and what they done
in the courts to them, The Fearless Fun was like, Yo,
we know that black women are underinvested in no matter
what we look at, whether it's politics or otherwise. Even
though Kamala is breaking all the stereotypes for that one,
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they said, no, it's not okay for you to go
out and decide that you're going to invest in black
women businesses. So we need to understand that they are
trying to attack us economically as well as they're trying
to attack our educational opportunities. When we start looking at
reproductive freedom, that also is an economic conversation if we're
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going to be real about it, right, because there are
people that decide that they're not going to have children
because economically they can't afford to have children, and so
then we're talking about potentially holding people back economically, but
also we're talking about literally putting women's lives on the line.
We know that the black maternal mortality rate in this
country has always been abysmal, and when we look at Texas,
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we are leading the way and the wrong way again
when we look at that, when you look at people
like Serena Williams, like this comes down to a situation
and where it doesn't matter how much money you have.
We have a problem in this country. And now you're
saying I am going to take away some of those
options that are available to doctors and women as they
are trying to basically live.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
So we're talking about the freedom to live.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Overall, Why more people talking about the Supreme Court. I've
been saying that the Supreme Court is a legitimate, it
is completely corrupt, because what my fear in November is,
you know, let's just say the vice president wins, Donald
Trump challenges it. In light of all of their recent rulings.
What makes us think they're not going to side with
Donald Trump in overturn the results of an election.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I have no faith in the Supreme Court, So I'm
with you.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I don't know, but I do know that we've got
to talk about the Supreme Court in general. That was
actually another concern about who became the nominee, because we
already knew that they were going to sue, and so
I was like, y'all can play fantasy president all y'all
want to, but ultimately you may end up with a
ticket and then your votes may not count because they
have already do. They are going to court, and the
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court belongs to Donald Trump. So that was yet another
concern that we had. If for some reason it ended
up being a nominee that was not the Vice president,
I thought that it could get really iffy because this
would be the first time in history, which means that
they literally don't have any precedents, which means that they
start planning our faces. In addition to that, I think
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it is a very salient point that we have to
make on the campaign trail, and that I do make
is that it's not just the presidency that's on the line.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's this dag on Supreme Court.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Because he's already made it clear that he's going to
put two more justices on this court.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
They get lifetime appointments.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
So that's why I'm happy that the President started talking
about Supreme Court reform. I'm a part of the Supreme
Court or the Court Reform task Force, and so we've
got three bills that we are trying to get passed.
We know that this Republican House ain't about this life.
But so long as we take back the House and
hopefully hold on to the Senate, hopefully we can move
some of this stuff. But one is term limits. They
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don't need lifetime appointments. That's clear. Number two is expanding
the court. This court has been expanded seven times, but
the last time it was expanded was I think over
a hundred years ago. We've grown a little bit in
the last hundred years, so we need to expand the court.
And then finally, we need some kind of ethics reform
because they just out here while and the only people
to get in trouble is everybody with them, So we
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need to make sure that they have some sort of
ethics that they have to abide by.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But I'm absolutely with you.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I think that we are already preparing for the legal challenges.
As Donald Trump is out on the stump saying things
like if I don't win this state, it's because they cheated,
he is already laying the groundwork. But I will say,
the good work of say Fannie willis down in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Let's clap it up for her.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I think that he may not have as many people
that are willing to ride with him in his ridiculousness
because it may lead them to prison. I think that
they may be fearful. We also know in Arizona. They
just did some indictments. So I think I think people
may say, never mind, I ain't doing fake electors. I
ain't doing none of this stuff because I ain't got
time to risk my freedom.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Besides the Supreme Court, Do you have any other fears
with this election? You already know they attacking her as
a prosecutor. They called her a dei higher, they said
childless cat ladies.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
What's wrong? Definitely earned it, definitely earned it is what
that means.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
We know she's overly qualified. But if the president said, hey,
I wanted a black a woman the color vice president's.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
It's not wrong because honestly, that is what it's always
been about. When we look at diversity, equity and inclusion,
or when we look at affirmative action type of platforms,
what it's been about is saying, hey, we need to
make sure that we look at all the talent, because
essentially our talent had been limited to what you just said,
white men, right, that's the only pool that we were
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looking at. So this this all it's ever been about.
It's never been about people that were unqualified. It's been
about making sure that you were forced to take a
look look at somebody other than a white man.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
That's it. But you still had to measure up.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
And still when we look at it, it's not even
a measure of it's not even a matter of measuring up.
You have to exceed the qualifications because again, when you
start talking about oh boy and the cat ladies come
on now like JD. Vance has what what does he have? Listen,
I am older than JD. Vans And everybody's like, oh,
look at the young baby in Congress, right, But when
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you look at the Republicans, they're like, oh, yes, this
can be the next Vice president of the United States.
And the reality is that this dude has never done anything.
He just got elected for the first time a year
and a half ago.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well, Jasmine Crockett, we appreciate Congresswoman Jess. We appreciate you
for joining us this morning. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Have you spoken to the VB. Did she call you
this week? She called me the day that it happened.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Okay, man, and you can stay at what us. Please
let us know, keep up a breast of what's going on.
You can check in any time if you in town.
Pull up on this.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
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Speaker 2 (20:00):
All right, it's Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
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