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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarius, Charlamagne the Guy. We are
the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
That's right, we have Jasmine Crockett. Welcome hell now as well.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I don't like that this people says that she's the
owner of bleached blonde, bad built, gutch body. That's the
only thing he's ever done in her whole life.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
You mean it is not the only thing, for sure,
that's right.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Yeah, But you know what, I appreciate black Twitter, So
let's give it up a black Twitter because we have
every genre of song, from country to gospel to trap music.
We got it all. In fact, there's a really good
blues version as well. But it's amazing when you think
about politics. I never thought that I would be in
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a space where number one, I would have to clap
back on somebody like that, like in a committee, but
number two, that people would actually pick it up and
start educating people through song.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
So yeah, they educated.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Them about you know, Maga and Marge and all of them.
So I appreciate it for what it is, but you're right,
I'm so much more than that, and I appreciate that
way before B six came around, like you understood, like
the fights that I was waging for everyday people.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, let's break down for people that that don't understand
what happened that day because we only seen clips. So
what happened that day in front of Congress, So what happened?
Break down everything that was going on.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Okay, So imagine that y'all skip out on work, because
that's what the Republicans did. They decided to skip out
on work. So we were supposed to have a hearing
about our Attorney General, Merrit Garland, and they basically want
to lock him up. But instead what they did is
they came to New York and they sat with Trump
and coddled him while he was in trial, trying to
make sure he did not get locked up. So they
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then said, you know what, since we decided we was
going to skip work, we're going to do our work
at eight pm. So we Democrats have been on the
hill all day. They come back, we go into a
hearing so that they could hold him make consense. We
get in a here and Marjorie Taylor Green, the gentle
lady from Georgia, started talking about Judge Marshan, And I
was like, girl, do you know why we're here, because
like literally like I'm already feeling away because I've been
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there all day while y'all was playing up in New York,
like go talk in front of those cameras about Judge
Marshan and say what you got to say or whatever,
because they were trying to get around the gag order.
But I'm like, we're here to talk about this, say
whatever you want to say about the Attorney General.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And so she then came in me.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Was like, well, do you know why we're here? And
she decided she want us to talk about my eyelashes?
And I was like, girl, you haven't like looked at yourself.
But I didn't get up. I didn't, you know, immediately
say anything. I tried to follow the rules.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
They let that slide do it. I was kind of
upset about that because.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
That was the thing they did let us slide, and
it was against the rules. So we have this rule
talking about like personalities, you're not allowed to engage in personalities.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Basically I can't talk noise.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And why she makes it seem like your last you
so long when you got twenty five ms.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
What a minute, I'm mad that you know the links.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Nevertheless, Weekend, you know what, even if I got it,
don't matter, it don't matter, like you're doing the most.
And honestly, you only came for me because I'm a
black woman, because there are white women. In fact, one
of my white female colleagues came up to me and
was like, I may need to bleach my hair, but
I'm not getting rid of my lashes. And so she
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was like, you know, Marge would never say anything to
me about my lashes, because she does she wears lashes
or whatever. So I'm just like girl, And and my
initial retort, what I wanted to say is you may
still have your husband if you were some lashes.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
But nevertheless, but but I did not do that. I
did not do that.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And AOC jumped in almost immediately, and AOC was like, yo,
this is against the rules.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But Comer decided I'm gonna let it slide.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
And of course, it to me is like what we
always experienced it as black women. It's like, you know what,
somebody punched you, but that's okay. You'll be all right.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Girls, sit there and take it. But here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
We on the same level, and I'm not gonna sit there.
And so I wanted to exemplify number one. If this
is how you're going to conduct these hearings, I just
want you to know that it's gonna be some real
smoke coming from our side, right, And so I did
not direct my words to her. I didn't even say
her name question which I asked a question. I asked
a parliamentary question, and I did it in a somewhat
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poetic way, and so you know, it ended up immediately
taking off. My pastor actually called me while I was
in committee.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Listen. I was like, so, for y'all that don't know,
my pastor is Freddie Haynes. Yeah he is. And so
I was like, why he calling me?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
But it was late at night, so I declined it,
and so I was like, I'm in comedee.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
He was like I know, and I'm like, well, why
are you calling me?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
You said god the voicemail.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
And so then he was like, yo, you have to
give me a warning before you say and then he
went into the phrase. So I was like, did my
team put this on the internet because it literally was
while I was still in committee. But I found out
that it was going viral almost instantly, and yeah, my
pastor hit me up.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So when did you write beach blonde, bad built, butch body, Like.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's something you had no literation, but that's something you
had to cut because that was it was.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It was, It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
It wasn't so when Comber decided that he was going
to rule against me, I literally looked over at her
because she sits on the same road as me, and
from head to toe is what I did. And then
I was like, and I literally from head to toe.
So my granny used to talk about people being bad built,
So that was an ode to my granny.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
That was something she used to say.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
The thing I loved about it, And you said, you
said it earlier about how if y'all keep coming at
us like this, there's gonna be smoked from absolutely side.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
There should always.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Be smoked from the side because everybody asks like what
they do is so normal to the point.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
That it's become normalized.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
And when you did that, it's like, finally somebody's you know,
reacting the way they should react to them.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, no, you're right.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I mean I think that we've seen the devolution of
politics because people aren't pushing back and saying this is
not what we do right. And it's interesting because once
I pushed back, there was all of this like attention.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
On me, right, It's like, well, you were wrong. I mean,
what did Michelle Obama say?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
It was all this kind of stuff, right, And it's like, nah,
Like that's I don't think that that's what the former
first Lady meant is for me to sit there and
just have you talk to me crazy and we're on
the same level and we're in a business setting, and
so I'm like, that's that's not how I would think
that she would want me to act. But nevertheless, I
know my district and how is it. I'm gonna say
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that I'm gonna fight for you, and I can't fight
for myself. So I'm not going to sit here and
allow the likes of a Marjorie Taylor Green to sit
there and clown me. But I did try to go
through the process, which is something that she ignored. She's
always ignored the rules. I at least was trying to
follow the rules, but once they failed, I still never
got outside of the rules.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
But it's about.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Doing what they are trying to do and doing it
better and doing it right.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
And I think that the Democrats have all the intellect
on our side, so we can always do it better
and smarter. It's a matter of are we going to
But do you have.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
The courage like you showed courage? Even I call a
lot of Democrats cow, which is because they don't exhibit courage. Yes,
you have the intellect, you have the truth, it might
even be doing the right thing, but where is the
courage just stand up to these It's new type of
conservative called maga. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Now I think that, you know, I think that there
are those traditional Democrats that are really still stuck.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
They are still stuck in this.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
You know, if we just lead by example, and it's
like these people ain't following no example. Like the only
example they follow is Trump, right, And that's exactly who
Marjorie is.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Like Trump goes out, he makes.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
A nickname for everybody, calling them out, they name calling
their wives out, They names that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
So she thought that she was gonna come and meet babe.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
You need to keep that on y'all side of the aisle,
because clearly you ain't never went to school with a
blas because you would have known do not talk about
a black person like we grew up talking about each
other like that's what we do, so exactly, it is
very easy.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So she learned, how did you feel about when you
see people pulling up at Marjorie Green at the airport?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
That that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Because that's what happen all the time.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Now, that was amazing video. Yeah, no, no, no, that
took me out.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
It was funny because I was laid in bed and
the person that sent me the video was actually Amanda,
so Amanda seals.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
So she sent me the video and she's like, I'm
sure this will make you smile, and I.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Was like, the only thing I don't like about that
door is I don't want them to encourage to do
that to y'all because because they're a little they're gonna
be different.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
No no, no, no, no. But you know what, they always
are a little different with us.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I mean I get death threats, right, like that's not
what it should be to be in politics, Like I've
not done anything that should warrant anybody trying to take
my life ever, and so you know, they are the
radicals that are always doing pushing the envelope, so right,
like these are the ones that went into the Capitol
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and trying to tear it apart. So like they about
that life anyway, right, Like you're talking about neo Nazis,
you're talking about the proud boys, Like I'm the type
of person that they're gonna come for my neck no
matter what. And so we do have to have heightened
security consistently. And when you look at the threats overall
against politicians, they have consistently gone up and up and up.
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The thing that Marjorie should be lucky to have is
that black people may play in your face, but like legitimately,
like as far as harming you, they're not going to
try to do that, Like they're not. And that black
woman was absolutely right because you know, Marjorie want to
talk like big and bad and comedian and she's like, oh,
did I hurt your feelings and all of that, but
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she ain't have nothing to say when that black woman
came through the airport and was like, oh so you
ain't like that, huh sure?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, you know with the first lady, it's interesting, right
because the phrase when they go low, we go high.
I feel like that applied to time that she was
in twenty twenty four and probably beyond. It is a
totally different time.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
It is a different time, But I also want people
to evaluate the lens in what she was working from.
She was the only black First Lady right like this,
She's on a level up here. And what was happening
is you had all of these trolls that were online
and they were saying all kinds of things. They were
calling her all types of animals, they were talking about
her appearance, they were doing all the things that racist
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people do, right, is trying to tear her down physically
because they could not match her intellectually whatsoever. But what
does it look like if the First Lady is literally
lowering herself to respond to somebody that is hiding behind
a keyboard and got five followers, Like that is literally
going low?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You are lower than her.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
But what we're talking about in this scenario, like which
other First Ladies were trying to come at her and
talk about her, That's not what that was. But literally
we're on the same level, we have the same space
that we occupy. So this isn't about going low to low.
But as Simone Sanders says, it's about going toe to toe.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now, what is your thoughts on I know you got
don't have much time, you gotta cautch your flight Donald
Trump's conviction, But what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And is that gonna does that help? You want to say?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Listen, you know, I don't know who I mean it.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I guess it made it worse since you know, those
broke people decided that they was going to get a
last five dollars and donate to him and crash his
website to the extent that he got a bunch more
money just to pay for his appeals process, not to
go into the election. I think that you know, for
a lot of us who have seen him play in
our face and having the audacity to say, I'm gonna
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plan in your face and I'm gonna get away with it,
which is what he's always said to us, even before
he ever got caught up, I think that it was
a good moment for white privilege to recognize that, like,
you can get the smoke too in this country. But
I also think that it's a really sad moment in
our country because we really are only a two party system.
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For those that don't know, a third party person ain't
gonna win presidency, at least not this term, right, Like
you're not even gonna get on all of the ballots
to be able to get it, Like there's a lot
of reasons, like so they're not gonna win. So it's
between Joe and it's between Trump and the fact that
we have someone who has thirty four felony counts of
worth of convictions and literally there's places. Eric Walwell just
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brought this up and committee. He's like, it's the whole
list of countries you can't even go to. So how
are you going to be the leader of the free
world and you're not even allowed to but in certain
countries because you're a convicted felon, you.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Can't go to Toronto.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
There's a lot. He went through a whole list of
like places can't go to Japan.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
What do they amend to where I don't know, I
want to stay in the future, But how do you
make it to where that can't happen when you can't
have all of those convictions still be president.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That's that's legislation.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I mean, I think that our never contemplated that, right,
because he can't be a city councilman, he can't be
a mayor.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
He can't sit on a school board, he can't do
states correct.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
So I just don't think that our framers really contemplated
some of this. It's just like we have a bunch
of January sixers that are running for Congress right now, Like,
because the only thing you can run for and have
convictions on your record is to get six figures from
the federal government. That is the only thing that you
can do. And you know, I think that Trump could
have an opportunity. I think that he really is again
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planning our face like, oh yeah, black people, they gonna
feel me because I got convictions. To bro It's completely different.
Number one. Number two, I think that you could have
a real conversation, like I've worked on ban thebox type
of legislation that would at least allow people to get
an opportunity to get in do that interview, like what
legislation do you want to pass based upon the experience
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that you're saying that you had personally, there is legislation
that could help people, especially when we start talking about
those that have a record. So many people aren't able
to go to college because of their record. They're not
able to well, they can't get the funding. Let me
say that they aren't able to get certain housing because
they have a record, They aren't able to qualify for
so many jobs because they have a record, and we're
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talking about hourly jobs. So I think that there is
a good opportunity. But MAGA isn't really about their life.
They're not about critical thinking, They're not about providing solutions
for other people. They just don't want their cult leader
to have to deal with a life of policies that
have forever consistently held black and brown communities down.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You know that narrative that black people, black men in particular,
are supporting Trump because he's a criminal. You know that
came from the right Like that wasn't a narrative that
started in our communities in any way shape beforem The
right wing media started that narrative. Trump started that narrative,
And now you have a few people adopting it, and
I don't understand why.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, no, I absolutely don't believe it.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
And maybe for those that have never interacted with us,
it probably is easy for them to believe or for
them to pairt. But I talk to real people now,
will I say that there are some people that are
turned off and they're saying I don't want to vote
at all. I will absolutely say that I run into
that where people are like, yo, I just don't really
feel like either party is doing anything for me, so
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what's the point?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Right?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I do run into that type of conversation, but I
don't run into a conversation where people are like, oh, yeah,
so I'm just gonna go out and vote for Trump.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Like I see it online a little bit, but I
feel like we don't know what's real and what's not
because we know that China as well as Russia have
consistently tried to interfere with our elections by doing so
much online. So I don't know how many of these
accounts are real or not. But like, I have a
majority black district when I go home, I'm not dealing
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with it. They just like, I'm not really sure that
I really want to vote that much.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
How do you think people understand that? People don't understand
when you say I'm not feeling any of this right now.
It doesn't mean, hey, I'm leaving from the Democratic Party to.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Go on correct vote for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's like I'm part of the exhausted majority of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
That is a problem though, right, because it is I'm
not voting for you know, the Democrats side, then you
allow more people to vote Republicans.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So I was going to ask or they may not
vote at all. That could be a problem.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yeah, But like when we're talking about a numbers game,
like if.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
We decide to stay at home, right, like I'm headed
to Detroit here in a second, right, Like I got
to get to Detroit. I got to make sure that
I'm talking to people because one of the things I
think we run into is like we want to beat
up on people and be like, yo, you gotta go
vote because people die, which is true, right, Like I
feel that I get it, right, But if you didn't
see your mother, your father, your grandparents like marching, like,
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you're not necessarily so connected to that, right, And it's
a matter of informing people, like what is.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Voting get me? What do I get out of this?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Right?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
And so I like to tell people, like I know
that they try to blame the president for everything that's
bad in their lives and usually don't really give them
credit for anything that's good in their lives. But it's
not just the president, Like you know, the fact is
right now, House Democrats are some of the most popular
people in politics right now, like it's looking to the House,
it's looking to the Senate. It takes all of us
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because the president can't really do much by himself. He
just did an executive order as it relates to the
border and immigration, and so now people are like, well,
that's too late or that ain't enough.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
It takes legislation, and that's what he tried to do.
They had legislation that was ready to go that he
was going to sign into law. But he can't do
it all on his own, and so chances are there
will potentially be litigation as it relates to the executive order.
But at least the president can say I tried, because
Trump is the one that said, hire Republicans, follow me,
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I'm your leader. Do not allow this legislation to go forward,
even though they worked collaboratively in the way that government
is supposed to work. So I just want to say that, listen,
people need to recognize their power and they need to
start showing up and telling people listening, you work from me,
because that's what it is. I serve at the pleasure
of the people, and you need to start telling people
what it is that you want and what it is
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that you need, and when they.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Don't give it to you vote them out. Like that's
just it's very simple.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
But I don't think that people really understand what all
we can do right, Like they don't understand Like we
talked about SNAP benefits last time I was here. We
had a whole like thirteen hour markup where the Republicans
are like, we're not gonna do this.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
So I made it clear.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
I was like, you know that like more a rural
America uses SNAP benefits than urban America. So I was like,
I do want to be clear that I'm fighting for
my constituents, but I'm also fighting for yours. And so
many of these Republicans talked about, well, yeah, I was
raised on SNAP, so you forgot or you just don't care,
Like I don't understand what's going on. But like when
people are talking about the cost of food being so high,
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part of that we can control, part of that we
can do something about, but we definitely can do something
about making sure that we put a few more dollars
in your pocket, or the child tax credit, like people got,
you know, an extra three hundred dollars a child. They
didn't really know why they were getting that. They didn't
know where it came from. But that was this administration
that was saying, hey, we're going to give you this
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child text credit. It cut African American child poverty into half, right.
But then the Republicans ended up in control of the
House and they like, yeah, so we not about that life,
but their constituents in rural America needed it too. So
we did a little compromise of something. And there's a
little something that's coming down the pipe, but it's not enough, right,
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So like we have to let people know you actually
received extra money. And that was this administration understanding that
it was hard.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You have to let people know that because you know,
people are still stuck on the stimulus checks and they.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Still they're still on the stemmis. And everybody got arrested
for PPP.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well, because we gotta go. She got a flight, that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
One more question, why are you the only person in
the Democratic Party who seems to understand that the language
of politics is dead?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I don't know that I'm the only person us very well,
and you messaged to where people can understand like my
little one of my one of the little minte's.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I don't want to say little. She's a grown woman,
but she's not quite thirty yet. But she saw you
in Georgia last week. Oh yeah, yeah, and she literally
sent me a video of you talking because you said
to the people, you should go out there and support
this administration. This administration has done a lot, you know.
I think you told them go google what they've done.
You probably don't know what they've done because they've done
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so much. And she was like, I need Jasmine to
tell me, you know what exactly they did. But I'm
saying all that to say, they're listening to you and
want to hear what you have to say. Did you
message very well?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
I think it's really my legal training, right, Like I
would walk into juries all over and when you walk
in and you're talking to a jury, you're talking to
every day people. But I have legal principles that I
have to translate, and so I had to know like
what the law was, but I had to I couldn't talk.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
To you in legal leese. I had to be able
to translate for you.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
And so one of my best friends from law school
and in law school, we have this dictionary called the
Blacks Law Dictionary. And so when we were in law school.
He'd be like, Yo, I don't understand what happened in class.
I need you to give me the Black's law version.
And so I'd be like, so when yo, cousin Pookie like,
I will, so I would break it down right. But
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I think that we do get caught up on the language,
and the reality is that most everyday people don't live
in our bubble. So we have to make sure that
we're communicating in a way that they understand and we're
doing the work. But we also need to do some
media training. I just talked about that. I'm like, we
need everybody to do media training. I haven't had any,
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but because I have been consistently in front of audiences
for years, I think that I know how to maneuver
a little bit. But you never know when, like the
next tornado or whatever is coming through your community, and
you have to get in front of a camera, and
you need to be able to communicate with the people
that you serve and make them understand what you're saying
(22:02):
in a very digestible and very quick way. We don't
talk and sound bites either. Like Democrats believe in giving
you the entire project twenty twenty five, like they want
to give you like a full thesis, because we do
put a lot of thought into stuff. It's why we
don't do well on messaging on immigration. Immigration has so
many layers and it's so complicated, and we want to
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tell everybody, and it's like we can't do that, Like,
let's just go ahead and keep it simple. There's nothing
simple about immigration, nothing at all. But the simple messaging
is winning even if it's not true. And that's the
other thing. Republicans will lie. They will lie just to
put something out there, and Democrats are like trying.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
To prove why they're lying. And it's like when't got
time for it, just slap them down or something.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I just listen to people, like you said, like I've
repeated things that I've heard and seen activists in Chicago
talking about in regards to you know, the border, what
I've heard and seen people hearing New York talking about
when it comes to you know, immigration. So it's like
I'm repeating what the people are saying. Yeah, you can't
chalk that up as MAGA messaging.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
No, no, no, you can't.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
And we have to listen, like even if people don't understand,
like why this or that is happening. We have to
we can't make people feel uncomfortable with talking to us.
We have to listen to them and say we understand,
and then we have to do our best to educate
them on what it is that we can and what
we can't do, because some people think that we can
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fix it all and we can't, or they think they
don't realize that, like nothing's getting fixed because the Republicans
control the House, Democrats kind of control the Senate, and
then we have the president. Like it takes an entire team.
And that's the message that I'm sending everybody is like,
don't just worry about the top.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
You need to worry about all the way down to
the state house.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Right now, in the state of Sexas, they're like, you
know what we want to bring about the death penalty
for women that seek abortions.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
They literally want you to choose death or death. That
is insane.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
So the President of the United States, unless he has
a Democratic House and Senate, he can't fix what the
state of Texas is doing. So you absolutely have to
pay attention to who also is on the state level
that you're voting for. So I just want people when
I said Google, I was trying to make sure that
people understand that they also have an obligation, right, Like,
we have to do our part. We have to educate,
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we have to communicate. It costs a lot of money
for us to communicate. You got to spend millions and
millions of dollars to get on cable TV, to get
on broadcast TV, to get on radio. You have to
do a lot to communicate to people. To send mail.
You don't have to do as much to do it
on social media, but it takes a lot, Right. But
I also want people to start understanding that they also
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have an obligation.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
This is your vote.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
If I'm out there telling you to vote for me,
I'm not gonna tell you the bad stuff about me.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I'm gonna just sell myself to you. Right.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
But just like when you go buy a car, it's like,
you know what, that car is good and this and
that and whatever. The car salesman gonna tell you everything amazing.
You got to do your research and you got to
find out where this car last and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
So I just also want to.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Encourage people to just jump on Google and do a
little bit of research as well.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Is it true to after the B six comments happen,
the Vice President called you and just laughed and hung
up the phone.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
She did not call and laugh.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
But I will tell you that I love our Vice
President and she is very protective, specifically in my opinion.
I mean she may be protective with some other people,
but of us as black women.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So she does call to check.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
She will have us come over to her residence and
want to sit down and have a very real conversation
about our challenges because she also experiences.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
A lot of this.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
So I feel like we have an amazing sister circle
with the Vice President because no matter how big she is,
she always takes the time. And I'm sitting there like
you're checking out me, like because I know how they
come for her throat, you know, while we're.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Waiting for her to have her own clapbacks. Because we
saw her in those sitting hearings back in the day.
We know that's in her. If you ever sat down
with the VP, you know that's in her.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
No, the VP's she's got it.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
And obviously she was a trial lawyer as well, and
she's a black woman, so like she's got it. I
do want people to understand that when it comes to
the vice presidential role, it is a supporting cast member.
And I think that because she is the first of
her kind, and because we there were people that went
out and said, I'm voting because they want us to
vote for her.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I want to vote.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, there were a lot of people that did that.
So I think that people want more of her than
like the actual role allows for.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
He calls for at times, right like when I In fact,
when I was in Atlanta, one of the things I said,
I was like, most people can't even name five of
the vice presidents, right like they can't, like they don't
know of the vice presidents because it's always been a
supporting cast member. And I think that unfortunately, just like
almost everything in black folks lives and definitely in black
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women's lives, so much more is expected of us. And
I don't want us to do that to her. I
do want us to allow her to be a traditional
vice president, which is a supporting cast member. But at
the same time, I know that she recognizes that we
are all voting for her, which means that we want
to see her, we want to hear from her. Because
there were people that showed up and voted because she
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was on the.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Phone, was one of them. I said, I never said
I was voting for President Biden. I said I was
voting because of I always heard that.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
And I do want to be clear because people talk
about like there's no excitement, and I was like, do
y'all remember it was it was Uncle Cliburne. It was
Congressman Clyburne that basically kind of got things.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Shifted around, right.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I mean that was when there was a shift, And
so I was like, y'all weren't excited before, Like this
was a matter of people showing up and saying, you
know what, I gotta do the responsible thing. This is
the responsible thing for the country, right, And so now
for people to want all this excitement, I was like, y'all,
weren't excited four years ago.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
It was about doing the responsible thing. Now.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I can't say what's going to happen four years from now,
but I can say that, like when you look at
being responsible, when you look at the black wealth gap, actually,
you know, finally starting to close it up a little bit,
we still are nowhere near where we need to be.
When you look at the amount of debt that has
been relieved from black folks, specifically when it comes to
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sude long debt. When you look at the fact that
this president has been on the picket lines and making
sure that those in Detroit in any other place where
there are, they are manufacturing cars, and he is fighting
with them to make sure that they get higher wages.
When you look at the fact that you know Migranny,
she has sugar diabetes.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Is they used to call it right?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Making sure that people can actually afford their life saving medications.
I can tell you that not everything in this world
has been fixed. But I can tell you that there's
one team that is fighting every single day to make
this world better, and there's another team that literally wants
to delete our humanity and look at us and act
as if we are not. My governor pardoned a police
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officer who was convicted by a jury of his peers
for literally killing a Black Lives Matter activist, Governor Greg Abbott.
And here's the problem that happened maybe two weeks after
the whole dog situation with Christy Nome. Now the whole
country went crazy about her killing her dog. I keep
trying to remind people that this country still values the
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life of a dog over our lives, and if we
continue to put people into office, and that even means
some of our skin folk who definitely are not our kimfolk,
such as Byron Donald's, who are going to continue to
say that, Like, I mean, the fact that you're sitting
around talking about life was better under Jim Crow, Like
is this because you don't understand history? Or literally it's
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because you married a white woman and so you think
that whitewash you. I'm not really sure like what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
But I need to be married to a white woman
and the correct correct.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
And it took Joy to call him out. So I'm like, bro,
like what is you talking about? Like what are you saying?
Like he just out here, you know, I feel like
they give him a stocking points and he's like, yes, Massa,
I got it, and it's it's it's not enough.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
So neither party is perfect. I will agree with that.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
So people that take issue with both parties, I completely understand.
There is no perfection that actually resides on this earth.
But there is a party that at least is striving
for a more perfect union, and that's the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Jazz I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I know, people like you give me hope in the
future of the Democratic Party. What's the website for the
Bleach Blonde.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Oh, yes, the clap Back Collection dot com. Yes, the
clap Back the Collection dot com dot com.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Get your shirt, Jasmin cracking Ladies and gentlemen, she got
a flight and I don't know how she's gonna get
to their pub, but we gotta get it there fast.
You go get yeah, all right, Ladies and gentlemen, Jasmine Crackett.
It's the Breakfast Leve Good morning, ass up.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Ear in the morning at Breakfast Club MHM.
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarius, Charlamagne the Guy. We are
the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
That's right, we have Jasmine Crockett. Welcome hell now as well.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I don't like that this people says that she's the
owner of bleached blonde, bad built, gutch body. That's the
only thing he's ever done in her whole life.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
You mean it is not the only thing, for sure,
that's right.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Yeah, But you know what, I appreciate black Twitter, So
let's give it up a black Twitter because we have
every genre of song, from country to gospel to trap music.
We got it all. In fact, there's a really good
blues version as well. But it's amazing when you think
about politics. I never thought that I would be in
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a space where number one, I would have to clap
back on somebody like that, like in a committee, but
number two, that people would actually pick it up and
start educating people through song.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
So yeah, they educated.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Them about you know, Maga and Marge and all of them.
So I appreciate it for what it is, but you're right,
I'm so much more than that, and I appreciate that
way before B six came around, like you understood, like
the fights that I was waging for everyday people.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, let's break down for people that that don't understand
what happened that day because we only seen clips. So
what happened that day in front of Congress, So what happened?
Break down everything that was going on.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Okay, So imagine that y'all skip out on work, because
that's what the Republicans did. They decided to skip out
on work. So we were supposed to have a hearing
about our Attorney General, Merrit Garland, and they basically want
to lock him up. But instead what they did is
they came to New York and they sat with Trump
and coddled him while he was in trial, trying to
make sure he did not get locked up. So they
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then said, you know what, since we decided we was
going to skip work, we're going to do our work
at eight pm. So we Democrats have been on the
hill all day. They come back, we go into a
hearing so that they could hold him make consense. We
get in a here and Marjorie Taylor Green, the gentle
lady from Georgia, started talking about Judge Marshan, And I
was like, girl, do you know why we're here, because
like literally like I'm already feeling away because I've been
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there all day while y'all was playing up in New York,
like go talk in front of those cameras about Judge
Marshan and say what you got to say or whatever,
because they were trying to get around the gag order.
But I'm like, we're here to talk about this, say
whatever you want to say about the Attorney General.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And so she then came in me.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Was like, well, do you know why we're here? And
she decided she want us to talk about my eyelashes?
And I was like, girl, you haven't like looked at yourself.
But I didn't get up. I didn't, you know, immediately
say anything. I tried to follow the rules.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
They let that slide do it. I was kind of
upset about that because.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
That was the thing they did let us slide, and
it was against the rules. So we have this rule
talking about like personalities, you're not allowed to engage in personalities.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Basically I can't talk noise.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And why she makes it seem like your last you
so long when you got twenty five ms.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
What a minute, I'm mad that you know the links.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Nevertheless, Weekend, you know what, even if I got it,
don't matter, it don't matter, like you're doing the most.
And honestly, you only came for me because I'm a
black woman, because there are white women. In fact, one
of my white female colleagues came up to me and
was like, I may need to bleach my hair, but
I'm not getting rid of my lashes. And so she
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was like, you know, Marge would never say anything to
me about my lashes, because she does she wears lashes
or whatever. So I'm just like girl, And and my
initial retort, what I wanted to say is you may
still have your husband if you were some lashes.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
But nevertheless, but but I did not do that. I
did not do that.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And AOC jumped in almost immediately, and AOC was like, yo,
this is against the rules.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But Comer decided I'm gonna let it slide.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
And of course, it to me is like what we
always experienced it as black women. It's like, you know what,
somebody punched you, but that's okay. You'll be all right.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Girls, sit there and take it. But here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
We on the same level, and I'm not gonna sit there.
And so I wanted to exemplify number one. If this
is how you're going to conduct these hearings, I just
want you to know that it's gonna be some real
smoke coming from our side, right, And so I did
not direct my words to her. I didn't even say
her name question which I asked a question. I asked
a parliamentary question, and I did it in a somewhat
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poetic way, and so you know, it ended up immediately
taking off. My pastor actually called me while I was
in committee.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Listen. I was like, so, for y'all that don't know,
my pastor is Freddie Haynes. Yeah he is. And so
I was like, why he calling me?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
But it was late at night, so I declined it,
and so I was like, I'm in comedee.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
He was like I know, and I'm like, well, why
are you calling me?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
You said god the voicemail.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
And so then he was like, yo, you have to
give me a warning before you say and then he
went into the phrase. So I was like, did my
team put this on the internet because it literally was
while I was still in committee. But I found out
that it was going viral almost instantly, and yeah, my
pastor hit me up.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So when did you write beach blonde, bad built, butch body, Like.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's something you had no literation, but that's something you
had to cut because that was it was.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It was, It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
It wasn't so when Comber decided that he was going
to rule against me, I literally looked over at her
because she sits on the same road as me, and
from head to toe is what I did. And then
I was like, and I literally from head to toe.
So my granny used to talk about people being bad built,
So that was an ode to my granny.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
That was something she used to say.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
The thing I loved about it, And you said, you
said it earlier about how if y'all keep coming at
us like this, there's gonna be smoked from absolutely side.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
There should always.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Be smoked from the side because everybody asks like what
they do is so normal to the point.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
That it's become normalized.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
And when you did that, it's like, finally somebody's you know,
reacting the way they should react to them.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, no, you're right.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I mean I think that we've seen the devolution of
politics because people aren't pushing back and saying this is
not what we do right. And it's interesting because once
I pushed back, there was all of this like attention.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
On me, right, It's like, well, you were wrong. I mean,
what did Michelle Obama say?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
It was all this kind of stuff, right, And it's like, nah,
Like that's I don't think that that's what the former
first Lady meant is for me to sit there and
just have you talk to me crazy and we're on
the same level and we're in a business setting, and
so I'm like, that's that's not how I would think
that she would want me to act. But nevertheless, I
know my district and how is it. I'm gonna say
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that I'm gonna fight for you, and I can't fight
for myself. So I'm not going to sit here and
allow the likes of a Marjorie Taylor Green to sit
there and clown me. But I did try to go
through the process, which is something that she ignored. She's
always ignored the rules. I at least was trying to
follow the rules, but once they failed, I still never
got outside of the rules.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
But it's about.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Doing what they are trying to do and doing it
better and doing it right.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
And I think that the Democrats have all the intellect
on our side, so we can always do it better
and smarter. It's a matter of are we going to
But do you have.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
The courage like you showed courage? Even I call a
lot of Democrats cow, which is because they don't exhibit courage. Yes,
you have the intellect, you have the truth, it might
even be doing the right thing, but where is the
courage just stand up to these It's new type of
conservative called maga. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Now I think that, you know, I think that there
are those traditional Democrats that are really still stuck.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
They are still stuck in this.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
You know, if we just lead by example, and it's
like these people ain't following no example. Like the only
example they follow is Trump, right, And that's exactly who
Marjorie is.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Like Trump goes out, he makes.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
A nickname for everybody, calling them out, they name calling
their wives out, They names that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
So she thought that she was gonna come and meet babe.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
You need to keep that on y'all side of the aisle,
because clearly you ain't never went to school with a
blas because you would have known do not talk about
a black person like we grew up talking about each
other like that's what we do, so exactly, it is
very easy.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So she learned, how did you feel about when you
see people pulling up at Marjorie Green at the airport?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
That that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Because that's what happen all the time.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Now, that was amazing video. Yeah, no, no, no, that
took me out.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
It was funny because I was laid in bed and
the person that sent me the video was actually Amanda,
so Amanda seals.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
So she sent me the video and she's like, I'm
sure this will make you smile, and I.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Was like, the only thing I don't like about that
door is I don't want them to encourage to do
that to y'all because because they're a little they're gonna
be different.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
No no, no, no, no. But you know what, they always
are a little different with us.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I mean I get death threats, right, like that's not
what it should be to be in politics, Like I've
not done anything that should warrant anybody trying to take
my life ever, and so you know, they are the
radicals that are always doing pushing the envelope, so right,
like these are the ones that went into the Capitol
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and trying to tear it apart. So like they about
that life anyway, right, Like you're talking about neo Nazis,
you're talking about the proud boys, Like I'm the type
of person that they're gonna come for my neck no
matter what. And so we do have to have heightened
security consistently. And when you look at the threats overall
against politicians, they have consistently gone up and up and up.
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The thing that Marjorie should be lucky to have is
that black people may play in your face, but like legitimately,
like as far as harming you, they're not going to
try to do that, Like they're not. And that black
woman was absolutely right because you know, Marjorie want to
talk like big and bad and comedian and she's like, oh,
did I hurt your feelings and all of that, but
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she ain't have nothing to say when that black woman
came through the airport and was like, oh so you
ain't like that, huh sure?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, you know with the first lady, it's interesting, right
because the phrase when they go low, we go high.
I feel like that applied to time that she was
in twenty twenty four and probably beyond. It is a
totally different time.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
It is a different time, But I also want people
to evaluate the lens in what she was working from.
She was the only black First Lady right like this,
She's on a level up here. And what was happening
is you had all of these trolls that were online
and they were saying all kinds of things. They were
calling her all types of animals, they were talking about
her appearance, they were doing all the things that racist
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people do, right, is trying to tear her down physically
because they could not match her intellectually whatsoever. But what
does it look like if the First Lady is literally
lowering herself to respond to somebody that is hiding behind
a keyboard and got five followers, Like that is literally
going low?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You are lower than her.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
But what we're talking about in this scenario, like which
other First Ladies were trying to come at her and
talk about her, That's not what that was. But literally
we're on the same level, we have the same space
that we occupy. So this isn't about going low to low.
But as Simone Sanders says, it's about going toe to toe.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now, what is your thoughts on I know you got
don't have much time, you gotta cautch your flight Donald
Trump's conviction, But what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And is that gonna does that help? You want to say?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Listen, you know, I don't know who I mean it.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I guess it made it worse since you know, those
broke people decided that they was going to get a
last five dollars and donate to him and crash his
website to the extent that he got a bunch more
money just to pay for his appeals process, not to
go into the election. I think that you know, for
a lot of us who have seen him play in
our face and having the audacity to say, I'm gonna
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plan in your face and I'm gonna get away with it,
which is what he's always said to us, even before
he ever got caught up, I think that it was
a good moment for white privilege to recognize that, like,
you can get the smoke too in this country. But
I also think that it's a really sad moment in
our country because we really are only a two party system.
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For those that don't know, a third party person ain't
gonna win presidency, at least not this term, right, Like
you're not even gonna get on all of the ballots
to be able to get it, Like there's a lot
of reasons, like so they're not gonna win. So it's
between Joe and it's between Trump and the fact that
we have someone who has thirty four felony counts of
worth of convictions and literally there's places. Eric Walwell just
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brought this up and committee. He's like, it's the whole
list of countries you can't even go to. So how
are you going to be the leader of the free
world and you're not even allowed to but in certain
countries because you're a convicted felon, you.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Can't go to Toronto.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
There's a lot. He went through a whole list of
like places can't go to Japan.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
What do they amend to where I don't know, I
want to stay in the future, But how do you
make it to where that can't happen when you can't
have all of those convictions still be president.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That's that's legislation.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I mean, I think that our never contemplated that, right,
because he can't be a city councilman, he can't be
a mayor.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
He can't sit on a school board, he can't do
states correct.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
So I just don't think that our framers really contemplated
some of this. It's just like we have a bunch
of January sixers that are running for Congress right now, Like,
because the only thing you can run for and have
convictions on your record is to get six figures from
the federal government. That is the only thing that you
can do. And you know, I think that Trump could
have an opportunity. I think that he really is again
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planning our face like, oh yeah, black people, they gonna
feel me because I got convictions. To bro It's completely different.
Number one. Number two, I think that you could have
a real conversation, like I've worked on ban thebox type
of legislation that would at least allow people to get
an opportunity to get in do that interview, like what
legislation do you want to pass based upon the experience
(13:56):
that you're saying that you had personally, there is legislation
that could help people, especially when we start talking about
those that have a record. So many people aren't able
to go to college because of their record. They're not
able to well, they can't get the funding. Let me
say that they aren't able to get certain housing because
they have a record, They aren't able to qualify for
so many jobs because they have a record, and we're
(14:17):
talking about hourly jobs. So I think that there is
a good opportunity. But MAGA isn't really about their life.
They're not about critical thinking, They're not about providing solutions
for other people. They just don't want their cult leader
to have to deal with a life of policies that
have forever consistently held black and brown communities down.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You know that narrative that black people, black men in particular,
are supporting Trump because he's a criminal. You know that
came from the right Like that wasn't a narrative that
started in our communities in any way shape beforem The
right wing media started that narrative. Trump started that narrative,
And now you have a few people adopting it, and
I don't understand why.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, no, I absolutely don't believe it.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
And maybe for those that have never interacted with us,
it probably is easy for them to believe or for
them to pairt. But I talk to real people now,
will I say that there are some people that are
turned off and they're saying I don't want to vote
at all. I will absolutely say that I run into
that where people are like, yo, I just don't really
feel like either party is doing anything for me, so
(15:18):
what's the point?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Right?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I do run into that type of conversation, but I
don't run into a conversation where people are like, oh, yeah,
so I'm just gonna go out and vote for Trump.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Like I see it online a little bit, but I
feel like we don't know what's real and what's not
because we know that China as well as Russia have
consistently tried to interfere with our elections by doing so
much online. So I don't know how many of these
accounts are real or not. But like, I have a
majority black district when I go home, I'm not dealing
(15:48):
with it. They just like, I'm not really sure that
I really want to vote that much.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
How do you think people understand that? People don't understand
when you say I'm not feeling any of this right now.
It doesn't mean, hey, I'm leaving from the Democratic Party to.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Go on correct vote for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's like I'm part of the exhausted majority of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
That is a problem though, right, because it is I'm
not voting for you know, the Democrats side, then you
allow more people to vote Republicans.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So I was going to ask or they may not
vote at all. That could be a problem.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yeah, But like when we're talking about a numbers game,
like if.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
We decide to stay at home, right, like I'm headed
to Detroit here in a second, right, Like I got
to get to Detroit. I got to make sure that
I'm talking to people because one of the things I
think we run into is like we want to beat
up on people and be like, yo, you gotta go
vote because people die, which is true, right, Like I
feel that I get it, right, But if you didn't
see your mother, your father, your grandparents like marching, like,
(16:39):
you're not necessarily so connected to that, right, And it's
a matter of informing people, like what is.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Voting get me? What do I get out of this?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Right?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
And so I like to tell people, like I know
that they try to blame the president for everything that's
bad in their lives and usually don't really give them
credit for anything that's good in their lives. But it's
not just the president, Like you know, the fact is
right now, House Democrats are some of the most popular
people in politics right now, like it's looking to the House,
it's looking to the Senate. It takes all of us
(17:10):
because the president can't really do much by himself. He
just did an executive order as it relates to the
border and immigration, and so now people are like, well,
that's too late or that ain't enough.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
It takes legislation, and that's what he tried to do.
They had legislation that was ready to go that he
was going to sign into law. But he can't do
it all on his own, and so chances are there
will potentially be litigation as it relates to the executive order.
But at least the president can say I tried, because
Trump is the one that said, hire Republicans, follow me,
(17:41):
I'm your leader. Do not allow this legislation to go forward,
even though they worked collaboratively in the way that government
is supposed to work. So I just want to say that, listen,
people need to recognize their power and they need to
start showing up and telling people listening, you work from me,
because that's what it is. I serve at the pleasure
of the people, and you need to start telling people
what it is that you want and what it is
(18:03):
that you need, and when they.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Don't give it to you vote them out. Like that's
just it's very simple.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
But I don't think that people really understand what all
we can do right, Like they don't understand Like we
talked about SNAP benefits last time I was here. We
had a whole like thirteen hour markup where the Republicans
are like, we're not gonna do this.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
So I made it clear.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
I was like, you know that like more a rural
America uses SNAP benefits than urban America. So I was like,
I do want to be clear that I'm fighting for
my constituents, but I'm also fighting for yours. And so
many of these Republicans talked about, well, yeah, I was
raised on SNAP, so you forgot or you just don't care,
Like I don't understand what's going on. But like when
people are talking about the cost of food being so high,
(18:47):
part of that we can control, part of that we
can do something about, but we definitely can do something
about making sure that we put a few more dollars
in your pocket, or the child tax credit, like people got,
you know, an extra three hundred dollars a child. They
didn't really know why they were getting that. They didn't
know where it came from. But that was this administration
that was saying, hey, we're going to give you this
(19:07):
child text credit. It cut African American child poverty into half, right.
But then the Republicans ended up in control of the
House and they like, yeah, so we not about that life,
but their constituents in rural America needed it too. So
we did a little compromise of something. And there's a
little something that's coming down the pipe, but it's not enough, right,
(19:27):
So like we have to let people know you actually
received extra money. And that was this administration understanding that
it was hard.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You have to let people know that because you know,
people are still stuck on the stimulus checks and they.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Still they're still on the stemmis. And everybody got arrested
for PPP.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well, because we gotta go. She got a flight, that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
One more question, why are you the only person in
the Democratic Party who seems to understand that the language
of politics is dead?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I don't know that I'm the only person us very well,
and you messaged to where people can understand like my
little one of my one of the little minte's.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I don't want to say little. She's a grown woman,
but she's not quite thirty yet. But she saw you
in Georgia last week. Oh yeah, yeah, and she literally
sent me a video of you talking because you said
to the people, you should go out there and support
this administration. This administration has done a lot, you know.
I think you told them go google what they've done.
You probably don't know what they've done because they've done
(20:23):
so much. And she was like, I need Jasmine to
tell me, you know what exactly they did. But I'm
saying all that to say, they're listening to you and
want to hear what you have to say. Did you
message very well?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
I think it's really my legal training, right, Like I
would walk into juries all over and when you walk
in and you're talking to a jury, you're talking to
every day people. But I have legal principles that I
have to translate, and so I had to know like
what the law was, but I had to I couldn't talk.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
To you in legal leese. I had to be able
to translate for you.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
And so one of my best friends from law school
and in law school, we have this dictionary called the
Blacks Law Dictionary. And so when we were in law school.
He'd be like, Yo, I don't understand what happened in class.
I need you to give me the Black's law version.
And so I'd be like, so when yo, cousin Pookie like,
I will, so I would break it down right. But
(21:19):
I think that we do get caught up on the language,
and the reality is that most everyday people don't live
in our bubble. So we have to make sure that
we're communicating in a way that they understand and we're
doing the work. But we also need to do some
media training. I just talked about that. I'm like, we
need everybody to do media training. I haven't had any,
(21:41):
but because I have been consistently in front of audiences
for years, I think that I know how to maneuver
a little bit. But you never know when, like the
next tornado or whatever is coming through your community, and
you have to get in front of a camera, and
you need to be able to communicate with the people
that you serve and make them understand what you're saying
(22:02):
in a very digestible and very quick way. We don't
talk and sound bites either. Like Democrats believe in giving
you the entire project twenty twenty five, like they want
to give you like a full thesis, because we do
put a lot of thought into stuff. It's why we
don't do well on messaging on immigration. Immigration has so
many layers and it's so complicated, and we want to
(22:25):
tell everybody, and it's like we can't do that, Like,
let's just go ahead and keep it simple. There's nothing
simple about immigration, nothing at all. But the simple messaging
is winning even if it's not true. And that's the
other thing. Republicans will lie. They will lie just to
put something out there, and Democrats are like trying.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
To prove why they're lying. And it's like when't got
time for it, just slap them down or something.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I just listen to people, like you said, like I've
repeated things that I've heard and seen activists in Chicago
talking about in regards to you know, the border, what
I've heard and seen people hearing New York talking about
when it comes to you know, immigration. So it's like
I'm repeating what the people are saying. Yeah, you can't
chalk that up as MAGA messaging.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
No, no, no, you can't.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
And we have to listen, like even if people don't understand,
like why this or that is happening. We have to
we can't make people feel uncomfortable with talking to us.
We have to listen to them and say we understand,
and then we have to do our best to educate
them on what it is that we can and what
we can't do, because some people think that we can
(23:30):
fix it all and we can't, or they think they
don't realize that, like nothing's getting fixed because the Republicans
control the House, Democrats kind of control the Senate, and
then we have the president. Like it takes an entire team.
And that's the message that I'm sending everybody is like,
don't just worry about the top.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
You need to worry about all the way down to
the state house.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Right now, in the state of Sexas, they're like, you
know what we want to bring about the death penalty
for women that seek abortions.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
They literally want you to choose death or death. That
is insane.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
So the President of the United States, unless he has
a Democratic House and Senate, he can't fix what the
state of Texas is doing. So you absolutely have to
pay attention to who also is on the state level
that you're voting for. So I just want people when
I said Google, I was trying to make sure that
people understand that they also have an obligation, right, Like,
we have to do our part. We have to educate,
(24:21):
we have to communicate. It costs a lot of money
for us to communicate. You got to spend millions and
millions of dollars to get on cable TV, to get
on broadcast TV, to get on radio. You have to
do a lot to communicate to people. To send mail.
You don't have to do as much to do it
on social media, but it takes a lot, Right. But
I also want people to start understanding that they also
(24:42):
have an obligation.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
This is your vote.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
If I'm out there telling you to vote for me,
I'm not gonna tell you the bad stuff about me.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I'm gonna just sell myself to you. Right.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
But just like when you go buy a car, it's like,
you know what, that car is good and this and
that and whatever. The car salesman gonna tell you everything amazing.
You got to do your research and you got to
find out where this car last and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
So I just also want to.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Encourage people to just jump on Google and do a
little bit of research as well.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Is it true to after the B six comments happen,
the Vice President called you and just laughed and hung
up the phone.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
She did not call and laugh.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
But I will tell you that I love our Vice
President and she is very protective, specifically in my opinion.
I mean she may be protective with some other people,
but of us as black women.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So she does call to check.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
She will have us come over to her residence and
want to sit down and have a very real conversation
about our challenges because she also experiences.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
A lot of this.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
So I feel like we have an amazing sister circle
with the Vice President because no matter how big she is,
she always takes the time. And I'm sitting there like
you're checking out me, like because I know how they
come for her throat, you know, while we're.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Waiting for her to have her own clapbacks. Because we
saw her in those sitting hearings back in the day.
We know that's in her. If you ever sat down
with the VP, you know that's in her.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
No, the VP's she's got it.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
And obviously she was a trial lawyer as well, and
she's a black woman, so like she's got it. I
do want people to understand that when it comes to
the vice presidential role, it is a supporting cast member.
And I think that because she is the first of
her kind, and because we there were people that went
out and said, I'm voting because they want us to
vote for her.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I want to vote.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, there were a lot of people that did that.
So I think that people want more of her than
like the actual role allows for.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
He calls for at times, right like when I In fact,
when I was in Atlanta, one of the things I said,
I was like, most people can't even name five of
the vice presidents, right like they can't, like they don't
know of the vice presidents because it's always been a
supporting cast member. And I think that unfortunately, just like
almost everything in black folks lives and definitely in black
(27:02):
women's lives, so much more is expected of us. And
I don't want us to do that to her. I
do want us to allow her to be a traditional
vice president, which is a supporting cast member. But at
the same time, I know that she recognizes that we
are all voting for her, which means that we want
to see her, we want to hear from her. Because
there were people that showed up and voted because she
(27:24):
was on the.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Phone, was one of them. I said, I never said
I was voting for President Biden. I said I was
voting because of I always heard that.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
And I do want to be clear because people talk
about like there's no excitement, and I was like, do
y'all remember it was it was Uncle Cliburne. It was
Congressman Clyburne that basically kind of got things.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Shifted around, right.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I mean that was when there was a shift, And
so I was like, y'all weren't excited before, Like this
was a matter of people showing up and saying, you
know what, I gotta do the responsible thing. This is
the responsible thing for the country, right, And so now
for people to want all this excitement, I was like, y'all,
weren't excited four years ago.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
It was about doing the responsible thing. Now.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I can't say what's going to happen four years from now,
but I can say that, like when you look at
being responsible, when you look at the black wealth gap, actually,
you know, finally starting to close it up a little bit,
we still are nowhere near where we need to be.
When you look at the amount of debt that has
been relieved from black folks, specifically when it comes to
(28:30):
sude long debt. When you look at the fact that
this president has been on the picket lines and making
sure that those in Detroit in any other place where
there are, they are manufacturing cars, and he is fighting
with them to make sure that they get higher wages.
When you look at the fact that you know Migranny,
she has sugar diabetes.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Is they used to call it right?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Making sure that people can actually afford their life saving medications.
I can tell you that not everything in this world
has been fixed. But I can tell you that there's
one team that is fighting every single day to make
this world better, and there's another team that literally wants
to delete our humanity and look at us and act
as if we are not. My governor pardoned a police
(29:11):
officer who was convicted by a jury of his peers
for literally killing a Black Lives Matter activist, Governor Greg Abbott.
And here's the problem that happened maybe two weeks after
the whole dog situation with Christy Nome. Now the whole
country went crazy about her killing her dog. I keep
trying to remind people that this country still values the
(29:34):
life of a dog over our lives, and if we
continue to put people into office, and that even means
some of our skin folk who definitely are not our kimfolk,
such as Byron Donald's, who are going to continue to
say that, Like, I mean, the fact that you're sitting
around talking about life was better under Jim Crow, Like
is this because you don't understand history? Or literally it's
(29:56):
because you married a white woman and so you think
that whitewash you. I'm not really sure like what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
But I need to be married to a white woman
and the correct correct.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
And it took Joy to call him out. So I'm like, bro,
like what is you talking about? Like what are you saying?
Like he just out here, you know, I feel like
they give him a stocking points and he's like, yes, Massa,
I got it, and it's it's it's not enough.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
So neither party is perfect. I will agree with that.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
So people that take issue with both parties, I completely understand.
There is no perfection that actually resides on this earth.
But there is a party that at least is striving
for a more perfect union, and that's the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Jazz I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I know, people like you give me hope in the
future of the Democratic Party. What's the website for the
Bleach Blonde.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Oh, yes, the clap Back Collection dot com. Yes, the
clap Back the Collection dot com dot com.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Get your shirt, Jasmin cracking Ladies and gentlemen, she got
a flight and I don't know how she's gonna get
to their pub, but we gotta get it there fast.
You go get yeah, all right, Ladies and gentlemen, Jasmine Crackett.
It's the Breakfast Leve Good morning, ass up.
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