November 7, 2025 • 33 mins
Today on The Breakfast Club, Jekalyn Carr Talks New ‘Legends’ Album, Gospel Music, Faith In God, Fashion Criticism . Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know every day.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Up the breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
You don't finish for y'all, dump morning, everybody in stej
n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the
breakfast Club lawn the Roses here as well. We got
a special guest in.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
The building and she walked in big regal. You hear
me like Royalty just stepped in the room.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Her album is out today, Ladies and gentlemen. Ja Kaelin Carr, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you feeling.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm feeling good. I have no reason to complain.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's great, you know, great response and just overall I
just feel blessed.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
You got some legends on this album, literally right. It
kicks off first song Bobby Jones. Yes, conversation with him, Yeah,
talk about you know, just bringing him into the project.
And while you decided to start off this tribute to
the legends and gospel with Bobby Jones.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well, he has played a huge part in a lot
of our careers. I could speak for me specifically. I
got on his show when I was about seventy years old,
war I didn't even know who I was. And then
and after that I released my breakout single Grater is
coming and he you know, invited me onto the show
and it just went from there. So it was his
(01:08):
show that really really pushed a lot of our songs.
And yeah, I was like, I'm honored to have him
a part of that introduction.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
How how did you choose which legends to collaborate with
and what criteria did you use to define legend?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, well, the thing is, I studied my songs, so
I have to hear who I hear on the song
versus just.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Putting someone on there.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And then there's so many legends, right, and I couldn't
get everybody on this one album, which is why I'm
now working on Chapter two because it's just so many.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
These people are just huge staples, and not just gospel
but in music period. They're the blueprint and it's just
time to honor them and to let them know that
we appreciate them. I believe that what you honor will
honor you. Gospel artist's son.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
We're doing with hip hop all time.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's so many.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You have Pastor Shirley, you have the Clark Sisters, Donald Lawne's,
Kirk Card, Kirk Franklin. I mean, the list goes on
and on, like it's just and then there's constantly legends
being raised up to so it's just, it's a lot
of them.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I want to go back if you don't mind. Yes,
what got you into doing gospel?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Jesus?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
And besides Jesus, what what you know? Why did you
want to make.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It a career?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So obviously I was raised in church, and then also
I come from a singing family. But even though I
came from a singing family, I believe that sometimes just
because you were around it, that doesn't mean you're supposed
to do it. But it was just in me, like
I couldn't escape it. Every time I turned around, I
was singing. I was in the mirror. I was singing
to the grass as if the grass was my crowd.
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My cousins would come over, I will make a choir
with them, like I just loved it. And honestly, I
didn't even know that, you know, my career would be
to this capacity city.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I was just doing what I love to do.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, And at a very young age, my dad he
came off his job so that he could manage me
and go on the road with me, and he saw
the vision cultivate distression Oh yeah, Yeah, it took a
lot of faith honestly, you know, because you're going you're
going from something where you know, you have stability of income,
you can take care of your family, all these things.
(03:24):
Like my life is literally a miracle. It was a
faith walk. But you know it's been a family thing
since the beginning. They again, they saw my gift, worked it,
cultivated it, and I am where I am today.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
But did you realize that you quote unquote made it.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh my gosh, I would say when I heard my
music outside of my hometown, that was really big for me,
because yes, Memphis innes Cy Westmaveris Arkansas Country, and so I, yeah,
when I heard my music outside of being played in
(04:00):
my region, that's when I knew that it was it
was getting serious.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Where was that?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
What did you hear?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
What region?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Where were you?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Well?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So I started traveling heavily at the age of thirteen,
and The Greatest Coming was released around fourteen fifteen, So
I wouldn't even be able to tell you where I
was because I was traveling literally from city to city.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But I just knew, yeah, it was getting real.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
It's your childhood traveling that young because you started early,
were you able to do the things that kids do.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That's the interesting thing because I was an active child,
and my parents made sure that they balanced very very well,
because of course I was homeschool too, but I modeled.
I did a whole lot of things because I just
loved being active in all of that, and I played
with my dolls.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I did all these things.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They just made sure that I had a very balanced
life because they also made sure that I enjoyed doing
what I do. At the same time, it didn't feel
like pressure, like even now it doesn' and feel like pressure.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I just it's my happy place.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Now you talk about balance. One of the things that
I like about you, And I don't know how hard
this is for you, but you're very young. You dress amazing.
People do criticize that sometimes though, right, yes, But and
being criticiod yes, because you know they give.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
They give.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
If you're a gospel artists or a person in the
faith world, people think that there's a certain way you're
supposed to show up. And because you have your fashion
and your boutiques and different things, you get flack for
if things are too tight or like whatever. But you
still keep the balance of being young and liking to
do all those things. How do you handle that?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, you know, I just do what I do.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I feel like if I'm not offending God, then you know,
I don't see the issue in that I dress. I've
never dressed, not dressed, rather for where i am. If
I'm at a gala, I'm a dressed like I'm at
a gala. If I'm at church, I'm a dressed like
I'm at church. But all at the same time, it's
still respectful, it's still classy and elegant and all of that.
(05:56):
I think people need to see that it's okay for
you to love God and look good at the same time.
It has nothing to do with your body shape, none
of that. If you look good, you just look good,
point blank period.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
But who are these people though, because I mean, have
they never not seen somebody be Easter sun.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
The lady?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I'm I think a lot of it just had I've
been criticized for my body shape when it comes to
certain things that I wear, So I think that's most
of the time the issue.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But yeah, but that's that's divine too, and I can't
do anything about that.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But it's divine. What do you see when you see
a beautiful woman with a nice body, like good love.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Jesus.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, but I think it too because your family and
your sound is so rooted in like that whole school
gospel where like there's so many rules and things you
can't do, and even that you handle that well too
with like on this project, very old school sound of gospel,
but like the melodies pick up a bit, there's like
a little bit of country in there at one point.
That balance is there also. I don't know how you
(07:03):
bring that in because they are not kind of like
new things and like that old school gospel.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah yeah, and a lot of them they actually said
that you got me singing this this young people music.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Miss Dottie In particularly say that. But they loved it.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And the goal was to of course, you know, honoring them,
but also making sure that the world know these people
still have it, like their voices, their personality there, everything
about them is still a staple. And so I tried
to make sure that there were songs that kind of
pulled them out of the box, you know, songs that
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they probably wouldn't have done before, or maybe they would have.
I just wanted to make sure I went in a
creative route with the album.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Because when you go into studio with some of these legends,
like in your Long Dadam, Shirley Caesar, what shift happens
in you creatively.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Like would you be are you like a student peer
or just something else.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So thankfully these legends, they literally was just like whatever
you want, Jaquelin, and so I would literally study the
songs before I go in. I knew what I heard
in different parts, and then there was stuff that, you know,
while they were singing that I would hear spait the moment.
But I feel like I'm in that producer's, you know, mindset,
(08:19):
but I'm always also in that student mindset because they're
always dropping gems and you know, and then sometimes it
could not just be what they say, it's how they
handle certain things, like you know, even speaking of Yolanda,
like just expressing how it's okay to live, to enjoy life,
you know, and again still love God at the same time.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That balance.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So, yeah, do they respect you?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And they do, they do, and they are all literally
thanking me when it comes to this album. But I'm
just honored to have them, like I'm honored, literally honored
to honor them, Like they tell me all.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The time, just how proud they am, they are and
all that. I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
I saw a quote I'm a BB one as he said,
working with Jacqueline Car the producer is different from Jacqueline Car.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's okay.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Working with JaQuel and Carter producer is different from JaQuel
and Carter singer.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So how to produce this album? Like challenge you in
that way?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It challenged me because you just never know when you're working.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I mean, I'm working with elites, right, so you just
never know what you're getting, what to expect. But I
just literally I had to pray. I had to keep
God through this whole thing. And again, they made it
easy for me. It wasn't like, no, I'm gonna do
it this way. I'm gonna do it like because I'm
a legend that like. They literally came in and was like,
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tell me what you need and that's what I'll give you.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I wanted to ask you know what You've been seeing
this a lot more recently, You've been seeing the blend
between gospel and hip hop or gospel and other genres
of music. What's your thoughts on that. I know some
people hate it, some people say it shouldn't be that way,
But I love the fact that you're that people are
infusing with, whether it's Glorrilla or Little Baby or whatever.
Maybe what's your thoughts on it?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You know, I haven't really put much thought into it
because I can't really tell. You can't tell people what
to do. You know, whatever what you feel like is
best for your career.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
You know you do that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I just try to make sure I'm doing what I'm
supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Would you do a record with a hip hop hoters?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
It depends, It really depends. I'm very strategic on you know,
how I move and how I do things, So I mean,
you never know. But for right now, I don't know.
I ain't putting any thought into it. So I can't
really say.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Be hard to turn down a woman from mistress.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And yes, I know you're very protective to piggyback off
and be right, You're very protective over.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
Your brand in this.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I've been told that you would turned down like music
deals and everything just so you could stay independent and
working with your family because you want to be able
to control how they place you musically.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Is that true?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And just be able to be in control period, you know,
not having to answer to anybody, and it also keeps
you in a position where you know you're doing what
you want to do, what you feel is best for
your career. For me, not everything is about a business move,
you know, because at the end of the day, I
keep the people in the forefront of my mind and
what they need, because that's what it's really about. Is
(11:12):
this about me trying to build my own you know,
little thing or whatever, or is it about me really
really positioning myself to help people? And the only way
I can do that is if you know, sometimes there's
not a lot of hands in there.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Throughout the process. How much money was it?
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Can we ask you that said? Again, what was the
deal that you turned down?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Now, when I heard that, I was, I mean, I
know you're rooted in family, but I'm like, whoa, there
probably was a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I'm not gonna say, but I will say, you know again,
like I ain't never really been money happy, Like you know,
I'm a money magnet, so you know that makes it
also just like you know, money answered to me. So
you're not going to present me with anything as if
you know, I'm supposed to just move upon it and
(12:03):
because again in the forefront of my mind is always
the people.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
I'm gonna ask that question, and Layne just asked in
a different way, if you had to tie ten percent
of the money that you had gotten, how much would
it be? You know what.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I And he got a song called he Don't Miss.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yes, it's a little country he don't I know as
he doesn't, but you know he don't. Just hit a
little harder that song, right there is just the song
about just confidence in God. There's never been a season
of any one of our lives where he missed, where
he did not come through, he did not answer even
when it wasn't when we thought it should have been
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how we thought it should have been. At the end
of the day, you know, he's been good, he's been faithful.
And there's no battle you could ever face, whether it's sickness,
whether it is you know, relationship with it, whatever the
problem is, there's no battle that he cannot win for you,
because some some times you gotta understand it's not even
on you all the time to fight some things. He
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wants to fight for you, and everything he has fought
for me is always one for me.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
What would you say to somebody who's in a season
where they feel like God is over them.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
The thing is, we got to understand that we all
go through those seasons.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The most God loving person goes through those seasons where
it seems like God isn't hearing me, he doesn't remember me.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know, how could you let this happen and that happen?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But you got to understand that God is so faithful
and he's so strategic about your life that he wants
to ensure that you are exactly where you're supposed to
be when you're supposed to be. But sometimes you have
to go through certain things, you know, to ensure that
you can handle what is coming. Because one thing I've
learned is that He doesn't want us to have the
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blessing and and when we don't have what it takes,
the character and all that to keep it, we lose it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh, he has to build us in the process to
ensure that we get it and.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
We keep it.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Sure, I know you're celebrating over ten years in ministry,
bring your music and different things, right, how do you
reckon when you go through things personally like you're doing
all this for other people and ministering and all this
but like when Jacquelin is going through something.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I have a very great support system, very great
support system who always encourages me. And the thing about
it is everything I tell y'all to do in my songs,
I do it myself. You know what I'm saying. It's
like God will also ensure that way it remains authentic.
And I am very sure about what I'm singing about
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because it's one thing for you to sing it, and
it's another thing for you to really know that this
actually works. So yeah, I pull on those people when
I feel like I can't pray for myself, I pull
on those people. I put in, you know, inspirational messages
in my ear to ensure that I'm encouraged. I have
my moments. You know, it doesn't mean that every day
is all cute and all that, but I just also
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choose to not stay there.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I was gonna ask, how do you ignore the noise?
If you even do ignore it?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You talked about sometimes they criticize what you wear. I'm
sure they criticize your business deals, So like, how do
you ignore the noise because you're doing it for a
group of people that say that you know, they forgives,
they're praising God, but on the same turn, they're so
critical to you. Yeah, how do you get rid of
all that noise?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
One thing I had to I couldn't be in denial
when it comes to myself. It comes with the territory.
It comes with the territory. Does it make it right?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's not always from church people. It's from every When
you when you're on the front line, you're on the
front line. You never know where you're getting it from.
And I don't do my research to figure out where
I'm getting it from, whether it's church people or not.
But the thing is, one thing I love about my
parents is they help build me before all.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
This, and it helps me along my journey.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So when I hear somebody say something, and most of
the time I don't even really see it, like I
get a synopsis, you know, with some people they'll tell me, oh,
this has happened, d da da da da. I don't
really see it because I don't really care to see it.
Like you know, I try to stay focused and all that.
But if I just so happen to see it or
hear it, I look at it again, I laugh I
legit lab like you can exit anybody. I literally laugh,
(16:25):
because especially when there's no harm in what you're doing,
and people are entitled to their own opinions.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And you have to be okay with that they are,
but not their own facts though that too. Now that's
where it's like, Okay, now you're doing a bit much.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
But at the same time, I know my truth, you know,
so I'm not finna sit here and try to convince
you of that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I let my life do that.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
I know you have your radio show too, or family fair.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Do you address certain things when people are trying to
figure out the truth, Like do you bring that onto
your show?
Speaker 6 (16:53):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I don't bring it into my space. I don't bring
it on my social media. None of that.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I refuse to give name anativity in my platform, Like
I get to control the temperature and not just of
my my life in real time, but social media too,
Like you know, you can say what you want to
say on your page, but when it comes to my page,
you know you're gonna get deleted or blocked.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's the reason, is the reason. Why is there? They're
like how you block block?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
How do you handle people being in your personal relationship?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Like I know the last time we knew of you
in a relationship was with Juwan Taylor and then that
just went away.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
We don't know to this day what happened.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
And he just recently posted that there's an engagement and
a kid coming, Like, is there any info that we
get on what happened?
Speaker 7 (17:38):
And do you plan to do that?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Like here's the I'm tiled.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
She was becau a lot of conversations about they were
dating to marry, and we thought that that was going
to be the next step, y right, that follows you
and then we just didn't hear anything else.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, but just like I'm but just like any other
relationship or any situation, it just didn't work out. The
thing it was with me is you know, everybody, when
you live in the limelight, you know you have to
count up that cost. But it just didn't work out.
I also did not know that he was getting married.
We hadn't dated. It's been like close to five years.
But yeah, like, yeah, it just didn't work out.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Image of questions people like that, Gary moved from your
prayer list.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
So to see you doing that young and you got
your career, it's like, okay, God is God do the thing.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I don't carry any animosity anything in my heart when
it comes to anybody. If I carred with, if I
care with one of my may as well care with everybody.
Like I don't know, Like I still wish everybody well.
I still wish that everybody prosper, everybody thriving life. Whether
it worked out for us or not, it is, it
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just didn't work out. God knew God, so I can't
argue with that, you know. So I've and then I've
moved for I don't dated since then. I've moved for
Bard since then. Yeah, I don't think they are.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Removing people from your prayers. Sometimes you give it to God.
Like you know what I was watching. I went to
go see a play last night. It was called an
Old Happy Day.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
And one of the things that they said in the play, uh,
the guy looked at other guy and he goes, God
don't want you to mind the business of your your
enemies or something like that, like it's not it's not
your business what God does to your enemies.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
That's what it was. And I was like, that's powerful.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, that's true because you know, when you give it
to him, it's up to him. He knows how to
take it. But we're not gonna say he's my enemy.
And the truth of the matter is, sometimes you don't
even know who your enemies are. That's why it's important
to keep it in his hands and you keep moving forward.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
That's what I try to do. I try to stay focused.
I don't even focus on them.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
You know, I'm sure you has to change, not even
just the dating stuff, but.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Just okay, I'm moving on moving the things.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
That you put out there in generalize yourself personally because
everything is growing with you, Like the celebrity is so big,
Like people call you like the mini Shirley Csons.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you live and you learn some things.
You learn to do better, how to handle things better.
I don't see how it could have been hidden for
long because people started to see me at the games
and all of that. They would post before I would
and so but yeah, I've learned to just protect my
privacy even more things that really mean a lot to me,
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because it's just a lot that you, you know, you
just you you can cut down on when you just
protected it was your.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Prayers had the Chiefs winning all them Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I'm a Dallas cowboy fan.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know, when you do, they try to keep you
in the box, because I see you try to step
outside the box, right if I've seen you on on
the radar with Gabe, I see things that typical maybe
gospel artists don't necessarily do. Do they try to keep
you in that boy be like, nah, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Uh sometimes, But I don't, you know, I don't go
by what they say, what people say. I do what
I feel is supposed to what j quelen Car is
supposed to be doing. As long as I feel like
it's not of offensive to my brand or anything of
that sort.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I don't think think about twice about coming up here.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yeah, I've yeah, but then you own her business, okay, listen, Okay,
because I'm in the business. But I'm also supporting the
brand as exactly it's there.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
I love what you're doing with the with the with
the album though, because I feel like there always should
be a bridge between generations, right, because I truly believe
that greatness doesn't expire, it'll.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
All exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
So what do you hope younger gospel or worship artists
take away from this legends right.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I want them to continue to number one, honor those
that are the forerunners, those who have been the blueprint
and gospel music. Because I have a little sister, I
have nieces and nephew. They need to know, you know
where it all started, how it all began, you how
to read the Franklin. I mean, the list goes on
and on and on and then also I want them
to grab a hold of the messages. You know, it's
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not even just about the name. It's also about the
message this album, you know, it's really it's orchestrated to
help you get to a place of happiness, a place
of wholeness and knowing that you deserve better in life.
I don't care what your past failures were.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I don't care what you did or didn't do.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
At the end of the day, you can't do anything
about that, But you can do something about what you
do today. The decision you make to to have a
song on their call I Break, and that song talks
about that, breaking negative cycles and all these things that's
been sabotaging your happiness.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And I want them to gravitate that and move forward
in life, move forward.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That that's what I'm going to don't you expound on
that a little bit?
Speaker 6 (23:06):
How do you see this album like connecting to your
mission outside of music, because it's clear you have a
mission out side of music.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Connected that because you know, I feel like it's relatable,
especially with everything that is happening, not just around us,
but just in people's personal lives in general. You know,
sometimes it's like one thing after the next. But I
need people to know with this album, just because it
looks like the negative is happening, it ain't the end
for you.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's not the end of your story. You know, I
said last night. If God is not pulling.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
The plug on your good news and your your miracles
and all these things, don't you pull a plug on it.
It's just the matter of time before it becomes your reality.
But you got to keep pushing. Sometimes you gotta fight
or pray just a little harder, you know, to see
it come to pass.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
The title track of the album too, don't think, Yes,
it gives that as well too, Like listen, I know
you get tired, Yes.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
You can keep going, Yeah, can keep pushing.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, there's a reason why that scripture is there. Be
not weary.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But he knew we would get weary sometimes, you know,
But at the end of the day, you cannot allow
that to overpower what he said because it is not
like what he said. He can take it back or
it's not going to happen. Anything that comes out of
his mouth is guaranteed. You have to stand on that,
and no matter how which way the wind blows you,
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what happens, you have to know he's not moving from it.
I would say, for example, I had been getting word
after word after word that I was going to win
a Grammy, and Da da da didn't see it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
All these things. It looked like the opposite.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, I'm going into the studio this year to record
don't faint, and they're texting me congratulations, congratulations, and I'm like,
congratulations for what and they're.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Like, you just want to grab me.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So I told people all the time, just because it's
not happening now, that does not mean it's not going
to happen. But you cannot faint, You cannot think.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That's the biggest thing, like people be having faithful Do
you have patience?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Exactly? Got to have patience, And it's okay. You gotta
be real with God too, It's okay. To admit, Okay, God,
I'm getting a little impatient. You know, this is getting
a little intense for me, because he see it anyway,
and he can help you through it.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Just be real with him. People think God is so complicated.
He's not.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
He knows everything about you. Just talk to him and
let him know how you're feeling, and I promise you
he's going to help you.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
That's That's how I've.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Been shifting my prayers or the way I talk to
God lately, because I think sometimes you get down on
your knees and you start praying here telling God things
that you think God don't already know. And God knows
what you need. God knows what you want, like he
knows all your desires. He knows what you're dealing with,
what your challenges are. So it's like I don't have
to tell God that. That's what I tell my therapist.
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A therapists don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
God knows.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I think with God, I just I really just be
asking for scrimping answers.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Not even answer. Just give me the script to deal with.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Whatever exactly, and he'll help you. He'll help you through it.
And also when you don't know how to pray. You
can also pray God, how should I pray? I mean,
He's gonna help you through all that. He can just
go to leave you out there. You know, That's what
I've realized along my journey and many others. He's your
helper and let him help you. That's not for me
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to determine. Oh you know, it depends on you and
what you need in that moment and all of that.
I don't even know how to pray all the time,
so I can't answer that. So I always ask God,
how do you want? How do you want to pray?
And when I can't pray, there's a scripture in the
Bible that says he will intercede for you. So when
I don't know what to say, I need my innecessor
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I need him to intercede for me.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
What happens when you can't hear God? Like, do you
have moments like that where you don't hear God?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, where it seemed like you can't hear. But a
lot of times we gotta know, I realize he speaks
in different ways. Sometimes we expect for him to speak
in one way or a way that we're used to it,
But There's been times where he didn't speak to me
directly during prayer time, but after I prayed, he would
send somebody to say this, that and the third and
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it would confirm just.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What you know I was just praying about.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
So I think you have to be open to how
he wants to get that answer to you because he's
speaking and when you feel you feel like he's not
just diving worship.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Do you feel like you have to be perfect?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Not at all, not one bit. I don't even listen.
I know that the only perfect person is Jesus, and
I ain't trying to be.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I just try to.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I take it day by day like everybody else, and
try to be a great person. You know, love people
try to do the right thing. We all have mess ups, failures,
but you know, the good thing about it is when
you don't stay there, you choose every day to grow.
And that's what I try to do in that worry
about Jaquelin and j Quala's growth. I'm not perfect things
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that in the past that I think like I could
have handled that bet better.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So I want to experience growth in that.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I want to expre you know what I'm saying, Like
I identify where I need growth and then yeah, I
do the work.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I want to ask, like, in your view, what is
the gospel music owes to the legends?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
You feature just the honor overall where we're not pushing
them to the side. There they produced and gave us
music that carried so many even years before now our mothers,
our grandmothers and all these people, and it ain't over
for them.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
They're still doing amazing things.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
When you look at CC Wine and you look at
the Clarks, your Lundon Kirk, all these people who are
doing amazing things. I think it's just our duty to
continue to make them feel like they're needed. There's no
division when it come to that old this is new gospel,
and we want like, no, we still need them because
there are some people that I can't reach that Msdottie
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can reach, you know what I'm saying. So all of
us are needed and I think we should, you know,
make them feel that way.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
What's your favorite gospel song of all time?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I love hymns, so I'm gonna awe it. So you
got hymns, It's like amazing grace. You ever heard of
Amazon grades? You got the blood ear reaches of the
highest Mountain. Yeah, those songs like that, like hymns. Yeah,
I'm gonna say some good old hymns, the ones that
I called out. There's not a friend all that.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
So what is Regina Bell? God is good?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I don't know. I've never heard that before.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Is good?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I never heard of it?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Come on, now, that's but if it's I'm pretty sure
it's a gospel, it's a gospel song.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So you have you ever heard of like a hymnal book?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Okay, okay, So if it's not in a hymnal books,
it's a gospel, but it's it's a gospel song.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So most of the time, if it's a hymn, it's
in the book.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, let's play a joint off for album that's out today.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
What do you want to hear?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Let's do I break?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Okay, let's get into that.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Now.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Tell God, even though I was in your business, I'm
a great person you Before we get into it again,
that's just a song of liberation.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I think that we have to understand that we have
to make the decision to say this thing, I can't
carry this anymore wherever. Whatever that this is, whether it's generational, curses,
whether it's negative cycles, in whatever area of your life,
you have to make the choice to break that so
that you can walk into your full potential and be
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where you're supposed to be in life. Forgive yourself. Forgive yourself.
You cannot control your past. You're not even there anymore,
So why are you there trying to go back there?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Mentally?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So you have to bring yourself to Now what can
I do better? But before I move into all these blessings,
I need to get rid of this stuff that could
stop me from really embracing it. Because you have you
ever like been blessed with something, and then there's this
one thing that your attention is on. Is keeping you
mentally focused on that where you're not able to fully
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embrace the blessing.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That's not what God's plan is for you. So that's
what this song is for. I break it.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I break it from the root, which means I don't
want no evidence that you done been here.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I don't see.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Oh that's a powful because I see that with people
in your life more so than people will get removed
from your life and you'll be like.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Cloudy, yeah, or it could be a different person but
the same spirit, the same cycle. And so that's when
you have to ask yourself. I had to ask myself,
and in many people anybody else, what is it in
me that keeps allowing this to happen?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
So it's not necessarily sometimes a person, it could be
something that's in you that you have to free yourself
from because if you don't fix it, the same thing
is gonna happen with the next person.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Preacher, I'm tickled.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Let's get into the record right now. You want to
close this out on a prayer, sure do it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Father got in the name of Jesus, I thank you
for everybody who's listening right now. I pray that you
will meet them where they are, that they will feel
your love and your compassion. They will feel your heart
that you desire to see them prosper and thrive in life.
Free them from anything mentally, spiritually, emotionally that has been
holding them in captivity where they're not able to live
to their fullest and highest potential. Thank you for new blessings,
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new seasons of favor. Thank you that this season that
you're pushing them into it will not come with pain.
It would not come. It would not feel like a curse,
but it will feel like a blessing. And every single
thing that you've promised them, we thank you. That's done
in Jesus' name. I pray Amen.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Amen caelin car albums out today. Thank you so much
for joining us, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
It's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Good morning. Hold up, every day I wake up.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Clack your ass up, the Breakfast Club. You know I'm finishing.
Y'all done,
I don't know every day.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Up the breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
You don't finish for y'all, dump morning, everybody in stej
n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the
breakfast Club lawn the Roses here as well. We got
a special guest in.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
The building and she walked in big regal. You hear
me like Royalty just stepped in the room.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Her album is out today, Ladies and gentlemen. Ja Kaelin Carr, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you feeling.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm feeling good. I have no reason to complain.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's great, you know, great response and just overall I
just feel blessed.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
You got some legends on this album, literally right. It
kicks off first song Bobby Jones. Yes, conversation with him, Yeah,
talk about you know, just bringing him into the project.
And while you decided to start off this tribute to
the legends and gospel with Bobby Jones.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well, he has played a huge part in a lot
of our careers. I could speak for me specifically. I
got on his show when I was about seventy years old,
war I didn't even know who I was. And then
and after that I released my breakout single Grater is
coming and he you know, invited me onto the show
and it just went from there. So it was his
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show that really really pushed a lot of our songs.
And yeah, I was like, I'm honored to have him
a part of that introduction.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
How how did you choose which legends to collaborate with
and what criteria did you use to define legend?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, well, the thing is, I studied my songs, so
I have to hear who I hear on the song
versus just.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Putting someone on there.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And then there's so many legends, right, and I couldn't
get everybody on this one album, which is why I'm
now working on Chapter two because it's just so many.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
These people are just huge staples, and not just gospel
but in music period. They're the blueprint and it's just
time to honor them and to let them know that
we appreciate them. I believe that what you honor will
honor you. Gospel artist's son.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
We're doing with hip hop all time.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's so many.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You have Pastor Shirley, you have the Clark Sisters, Donald Lawne's,
Kirk Card, Kirk Franklin. I mean, the list goes on
and on, like it's just and then there's constantly legends
being raised up to so it's just, it's a lot
of them.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I want to go back if you don't mind. Yes,
what got you into doing gospel?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Jesus?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
And besides Jesus, what what you know? Why did you
want to make.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It a career?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So obviously I was raised in church, and then also
I come from a singing family. But even though I
came from a singing family, I believe that sometimes just
because you were around it, that doesn't mean you're supposed
to do it. But it was just in me, like
I couldn't escape it. Every time I turned around, I
was singing. I was in the mirror. I was singing
to the grass as if the grass was my crowd.
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My cousins would come over, I will make a choir
with them, like I just loved it. And honestly, I
didn't even know that, you know, my career would be
to this capacity city.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I was just doing what I love to do.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, And at a very young age, my dad he
came off his job so that he could manage me
and go on the road with me, and he saw
the vision cultivate distression Oh yeah, Yeah, it took a
lot of faith honestly, you know, because you're going you're
going from something where you know, you have stability of income,
you can take care of your family, all these things.
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Like my life is literally a miracle. It was a
faith walk. But you know it's been a family thing
since the beginning. They again, they saw my gift, worked it,
cultivated it, and I am where I am today.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
But did you realize that you quote unquote made it.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh my gosh, I would say when I heard my
music outside of my hometown, that was really big for me,
because yes, Memphis innes Cy Westmaveris Arkansas Country, and so I, yeah,
when I heard my music outside of being played in
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my region, that's when I knew that it was it
was getting serious.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Where was that?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
What did you hear?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
What region?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Where were you?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Well?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So I started traveling heavily at the age of thirteen,
and The Greatest Coming was released around fourteen fifteen, So
I wouldn't even be able to tell you where I
was because I was traveling literally from city to city.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But I just knew, yeah, it was getting real.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
It's your childhood traveling that young because you started early,
were you able to do the things that kids do.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That's the interesting thing because I was an active child,
and my parents made sure that they balanced very very well,
because of course I was homeschool too, but I modeled.
I did a whole lot of things because I just
loved being active in all of that, and I played
with my dolls.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I did all these things.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They just made sure that I had a very balanced
life because they also made sure that I enjoyed doing
what I do. At the same time, it didn't feel
like pressure, like even now it doesn' and feel like pressure.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I just it's my happy place.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Now you talk about balance. One of the things that
I like about you, And I don't know how hard
this is for you, but you're very young. You dress amazing.
People do criticize that sometimes though, right, yes, But and
being criticiod yes, because you know they give.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
They give.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
If you're a gospel artists or a person in the
faith world, people think that there's a certain way you're
supposed to show up. And because you have your fashion
and your boutiques and different things, you get flack for
if things are too tight or like whatever. But you
still keep the balance of being young and liking to
do all those things. How do you handle that?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, you know, I just do what I do.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I feel like if I'm not offending God, then you know,
I don't see the issue in that I dress. I've
never dressed, not dressed, rather for where i am. If
I'm at a gala, I'm a dressed like I'm at
a gala. If I'm at church, I'm a dressed like
I'm at church. But all at the same time, it's
still respectful, it's still classy and elegant and all of that.
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I think people need to see that it's okay for
you to love God and look good at the same time.
It has nothing to do with your body shape, none
of that. If you look good, you just look good,
point blank period.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
But who are these people though, because I mean, have
they never not seen somebody be Easter sun.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
The lady?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I'm I think a lot of it just had I've
been criticized for my body shape when it comes to
certain things that I wear, So I think that's most
of the time the issue.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But yeah, but that's that's divine too, and I can't
do anything about that.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But it's divine. What do you see when you see
a beautiful woman with a nice body, like good love.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Jesus.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, but I think it too because your family and
your sound is so rooted in like that whole school
gospel where like there's so many rules and things you
can't do, and even that you handle that well too
with like on this project, very old school sound of gospel,
but like the melodies pick up a bit, there's like
a little bit of country in there at one point.
That balance is there also. I don't know how you
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bring that in because they are not kind of like
new things and like that old school gospel.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah yeah, and a lot of them they actually said
that you got me singing this this young people music.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Miss Dottie In particularly say that. But they loved it.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And the goal was to of course, you know, honoring them,
but also making sure that the world know these people
still have it, like their voices, their personality there, everything
about them is still a staple. And so I tried
to make sure that there were songs that kind of
pulled them out of the box, you know, songs that
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they probably wouldn't have done before, or maybe they would have.
I just wanted to make sure I went in a
creative route with the album.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Because when you go into studio with some of these legends,
like in your Long Dadam, Shirley Caesar, what shift happens
in you creatively.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Like would you be are you like a student peer
or just something else.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So thankfully these legends, they literally was just like whatever
you want, Jaquelin, and so I would literally study the
songs before I go in. I knew what I heard
in different parts, and then there was stuff that, you know,
while they were singing that I would hear spait the moment.
But I feel like I'm in that producer's, you know, mindset,
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but I'm always also in that student mindset because they're
always dropping gems and you know, and then sometimes it
could not just be what they say, it's how they
handle certain things, like you know, even speaking of Yolanda,
like just expressing how it's okay to live, to enjoy life,
you know, and again still love God at the same time.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That balance.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So, yeah, do they respect you?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And they do, they do, and they are all literally
thanking me when it comes to this album. But I'm
just honored to have them, like I'm honored, literally honored
to honor them, Like they tell me all.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The time, just how proud they am, they are and
all that. I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
I saw a quote I'm a BB one as he said,
working with Jacqueline Car the producer is different from Jacqueline Car.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's okay.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Working with JaQuel and Carter producer is different from JaQuel
and Carter singer.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So how to produce this album? Like challenge you in
that way?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It challenged me because you just never know when you're working.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I mean, I'm working with elites, right, so you just
never know what you're getting, what to expect. But I
just literally I had to pray. I had to keep
God through this whole thing. And again, they made it
easy for me. It wasn't like, no, I'm gonna do
it this way. I'm gonna do it like because I'm
a legend that like. They literally came in and was like,
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tell me what you need and that's what I'll give you.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I wanted to ask you know what You've been seeing
this a lot more recently, You've been seeing the blend
between gospel and hip hop or gospel and other genres
of music. What's your thoughts on that. I know some
people hate it, some people say it shouldn't be that way,
But I love the fact that you're that people are
infusing with, whether it's Glorrilla or Little Baby or whatever.
Maybe what's your thoughts on it?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You know, I haven't really put much thought into it
because I can't really tell. You can't tell people what
to do. You know, whatever what you feel like is
best for your career.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
You know you do that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I just try to make sure I'm doing what I'm
supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Would you do a record with a hip hop hoters?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
It depends, It really depends. I'm very strategic on you know,
how I move and how I do things, So I mean,
you never know. But for right now, I don't know.
I ain't putting any thought into it. So I can't
really say.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Be hard to turn down a woman from mistress.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And yes, I know you're very protective to piggyback off
and be right, You're very protective over.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
Your brand in this.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I've been told that you would turned down like music
deals and everything just so you could stay independent and
working with your family because you want to be able
to control how they place you musically.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Is that true?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And just be able to be in control period, you know,
not having to answer to anybody, and it also keeps
you in a position where you know you're doing what
you want to do, what you feel is best for
your career. For me, not everything is about a business move,
you know, because at the end of the day, I
keep the people in the forefront of my mind and
what they need, because that's what it's really about. Is
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this about me trying to build my own you know,
little thing or whatever, or is it about me really
really positioning myself to help people? And the only way
I can do that is if you know, sometimes there's
not a lot of hands in there.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Throughout the process. How much money was it?
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Can we ask you that said? Again, what was the
deal that you turned down?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Now, when I heard that, I was, I mean, I
know you're rooted in family, but I'm like, whoa, there
probably was a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I'm not gonna say, but I will say, you know again,
like I ain't never really been money happy, Like you know,
I'm a money magnet, so you know that makes it
also just like you know, money answered to me. So
you're not going to present me with anything as if
you know, I'm supposed to just move upon it and
(12:03):
because again in the forefront of my mind is always
the people.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
I'm gonna ask that question, and Layne just asked in
a different way, if you had to tie ten percent
of the money that you had gotten, how much would
it be? You know what.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I And he got a song called he Don't Miss.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yes, it's a little country he don't I know as
he doesn't, but you know he don't. Just hit a
little harder that song, right there is just the song
about just confidence in God. There's never been a season
of any one of our lives where he missed, where
he did not come through, he did not answer even
when it wasn't when we thought it should have been
(12:43):
how we thought it should have been. At the end
of the day, you know, he's been good, he's been faithful.
And there's no battle you could ever face, whether it's sickness,
whether it is you know, relationship with it, whatever the
problem is, there's no battle that he cannot win for you,
because some some times you gotta understand it's not even
on you all the time to fight some things. He
(13:04):
wants to fight for you, and everything he has fought
for me is always one for me.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
What would you say to somebody who's in a season
where they feel like God is over them.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
The thing is, we got to understand that we all
go through those seasons.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The most God loving person goes through those seasons where
it seems like God isn't hearing me, he doesn't remember me.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know, how could you let this happen and that happen?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But you got to understand that God is so faithful
and he's so strategic about your life that he wants
to ensure that you are exactly where you're supposed to
be when you're supposed to be. But sometimes you have
to go through certain things, you know, to ensure that
you can handle what is coming. Because one thing I've
learned is that He doesn't want us to have the
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blessing and and when we don't have what it takes,
the character and all that to keep it, we lose it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh, he has to build us in the process to
ensure that we get it and.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
We keep it.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Sure, I know you're celebrating over ten years in ministry,
bring your music and different things, right, how do you
reckon when you go through things personally like you're doing
all this for other people and ministering and all this
but like when Jacquelin is going through something.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I have a very great support system, very great
support system who always encourages me. And the thing about
it is everything I tell y'all to do in my songs,
I do it myself. You know what I'm saying. It's
like God will also ensure that way it remains authentic.
And I am very sure about what I'm singing about
(14:40):
because it's one thing for you to sing it, and
it's another thing for you to really know that this
actually works. So yeah, I pull on those people when
I feel like I can't pray for myself, I pull
on those people. I put in, you know, inspirational messages
in my ear to ensure that I'm encouraged. I have
my moments. You know, it doesn't mean that every day
is all cute and all that, but I just also
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choose to not stay there.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I was gonna ask, how do you ignore the noise?
If you even do ignore it?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You talked about sometimes they criticize what you wear. I'm
sure they criticize your business deals, So like, how do
you ignore the noise because you're doing it for a
group of people that say that you know, they forgives,
they're praising God, but on the same turn, they're so
critical to you. Yeah, how do you get rid of
all that noise?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
One thing I had to I couldn't be in denial
when it comes to myself. It comes with the territory.
It comes with the territory. Does it make it right?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's not always from church people. It's from every When
you when you're on the front line, you're on the
front line. You never know where you're getting it from.
And I don't do my research to figure out where
I'm getting it from, whether it's church people or not.
But the thing is, one thing I love about my
parents is they help build me before all.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
This, and it helps me along my journey.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So when I hear somebody say something, and most of
the time I don't even really see it, like I
get a synopsis, you know, with some people they'll tell me, oh,
this has happened, d da da da da. I don't
really see it because I don't really care to see it.
Like you know, I try to stay focused and all that.
But if I just so happen to see it or
hear it, I look at it again, I laugh I
legit lab like you can exit anybody. I literally laugh,
(16:25):
because especially when there's no harm in what you're doing,
and people are entitled to their own opinions.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And you have to be okay with that they are,
but not their own facts though that too. Now that's
where it's like, Okay, now you're doing a bit much.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
But at the same time, I know my truth, you know,
so I'm not finna sit here and try to convince
you of that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I let my life do that.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
I know you have your radio show too, or family fair.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Do you address certain things when people are trying to
figure out the truth, Like do you bring that onto
your show?
Speaker 6 (16:53):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I don't bring it into my space. I don't bring
it on my social media. None of that.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I refuse to give name anativity in my platform, Like
I get to control the temperature and not just of
my my life in real time, but social media too,
Like you know, you can say what you want to
say on your page, but when it comes to my page,
you know you're gonna get deleted or blocked.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's the reason, is the reason. Why is there? They're
like how you block block?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
How do you handle people being in your personal relationship?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Like I know the last time we knew of you
in a relationship was with Juwan Taylor and then that
just went away.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
We don't know to this day what happened.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
And he just recently posted that there's an engagement and
a kid coming, Like, is there any info that we
get on what happened?
Speaker 7 (17:38):
And do you plan to do that?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Like here's the I'm tiled.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
She was becau a lot of conversations about they were
dating to marry, and we thought that that was going
to be the next step, y right, that follows you
and then we just didn't hear anything else.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, but just like I'm but just like any other
relationship or any situation, it just didn't work out. The
thing it was with me is you know, everybody, when
you live in the limelight, you know you have to
count up that cost. But it just didn't work out.
I also did not know that he was getting married.
We hadn't dated. It's been like close to five years.
But yeah, like, yeah, it just didn't work out.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Image of questions people like that, Gary moved from your
prayer list.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
So to see you doing that young and you got
your career, it's like, okay, God is God do the thing.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I don't carry any animosity anything in my heart when
it comes to anybody. If I carred with, if I
care with one of my may as well care with everybody.
Like I don't know, Like I still wish everybody well.
I still wish that everybody prosper, everybody thriving life. Whether
it worked out for us or not, it is, it
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just didn't work out. God knew God, so I can't
argue with that, you know. So I've and then I've
moved for I don't dated since then. I've moved for
Bard since then. Yeah, I don't think they are.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Removing people from your prayers. Sometimes you give it to God.
Like you know what I was watching. I went to
go see a play last night. It was called an
Old Happy Day.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
And one of the things that they said in the play, uh,
the guy looked at other guy and he goes, God
don't want you to mind the business of your your
enemies or something like that, like it's not it's not
your business what God does to your enemies.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
That's what it was. And I was like, that's powerful.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, that's true because you know, when you give it
to him, it's up to him. He knows how to
take it. But we're not gonna say he's my enemy.
And the truth of the matter is, sometimes you don't
even know who your enemies are. That's why it's important
to keep it in his hands and you keep moving forward.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
That's what I try to do. I try to stay focused.
I don't even focus on them.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
You know, I'm sure you has to change, not even
just the dating stuff, but.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Just okay, I'm moving on moving the things.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
That you put out there in generalize yourself personally because
everything is growing with you, Like the celebrity is so big,
Like people call you like the mini Shirley Csons.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you live and you learn some things.
You learn to do better, how to handle things better.
I don't see how it could have been hidden for
long because people started to see me at the games
and all of that. They would post before I would
and so but yeah, I've learned to just protect my
privacy even more things that really mean a lot to me,
(20:31):
because it's just a lot that you, you know, you
just you you can cut down on when you just
protected it was your.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Prayers had the Chiefs winning all them Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I'm a Dallas cowboy fan.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know, when you do, they try to keep you
in the box, because I see you try to step
outside the box, right if I've seen you on on
the radar with Gabe, I see things that typical maybe
gospel artists don't necessarily do. Do they try to keep
you in that boy be like, nah, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Uh sometimes, But I don't, you know, I don't go
by what they say, what people say. I do what
I feel is supposed to what j quelen Car is
supposed to be doing. As long as I feel like
it's not of offensive to my brand or anything of
that sort.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I don't think think about twice about coming up here.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yeah, I've yeah, but then you own her business, okay, listen, Okay,
because I'm in the business. But I'm also supporting the
brand as exactly it's there.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
I love what you're doing with the with the with
the album though, because I feel like there always should
be a bridge between generations, right, because I truly believe
that greatness doesn't expire, it'll.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
All exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
So what do you hope younger gospel or worship artists
take away from this legends right.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I want them to continue to number one, honor those
that are the forerunners, those who have been the blueprint
and gospel music. Because I have a little sister, I
have nieces and nephew. They need to know, you know
where it all started, how it all began, you how
to read the Franklin. I mean, the list goes on
and on and on and then also I want them
to grab a hold of the messages. You know, it's
(22:23):
not even just about the name. It's also about the
message this album, you know, it's really it's orchestrated to
help you get to a place of happiness, a place
of wholeness and knowing that you deserve better in life.
I don't care what your past failures were.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I don't care what you did or didn't do.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
At the end of the day, you can't do anything
about that, But you can do something about what you
do today. The decision you make to to have a
song on their call I Break, and that song talks
about that, breaking negative cycles and all these things that's
been sabotaging your happiness.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And I want them to gravitate that and move forward
in life, move forward.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That that's what I'm going to don't you expound on
that a little bit?
Speaker 6 (23:06):
How do you see this album like connecting to your
mission outside of music, because it's clear you have a
mission out side of music.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Connected that because you know, I feel like it's relatable,
especially with everything that is happening, not just around us,
but just in people's personal lives in general. You know,
sometimes it's like one thing after the next. But I
need people to know with this album, just because it
looks like the negative is happening, it ain't the end
for you.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's not the end of your story. You know, I
said last night. If God is not pulling.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
The plug on your good news and your your miracles
and all these things, don't you pull a plug on it.
It's just the matter of time before it becomes your reality.
But you got to keep pushing. Sometimes you gotta fight
or pray just a little harder, you know, to see
it come to pass.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
The title track of the album too, don't think, Yes,
it gives that as well too, Like listen, I know
you get tired, Yes.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
You can keep going, Yeah, can keep pushing.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, there's a reason why that scripture is there. Be
not weary.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But he knew we would get weary sometimes, you know,
But at the end of the day, you cannot allow
that to overpower what he said because it is not
like what he said. He can take it back or
it's not going to happen. Anything that comes out of
his mouth is guaranteed. You have to stand on that,
and no matter how which way the wind blows you,
(24:25):
what happens, you have to know he's not moving from it.
I would say, for example, I had been getting word
after word after word that I was going to win
a Grammy, and Da da da didn't see it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
All these things. It looked like the opposite.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, I'm going into the studio this year to record
don't faint, and they're texting me congratulations, congratulations, and I'm like,
congratulations for what and they're.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Like, you just want to grab me.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So I told people all the time, just because it's
not happening now, that does not mean it's not going
to happen. But you cannot faint, You cannot think.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That's the biggest thing, like people be having faithful Do
you have patience?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Exactly? Got to have patience, And it's okay. You gotta
be real with God too, It's okay. To admit, Okay, God,
I'm getting a little impatient. You know, this is getting
a little intense for me, because he see it anyway,
and he can help you through it.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Just be real with him. People think God is so complicated.
He's not.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
He knows everything about you. Just talk to him and
let him know how you're feeling, and I promise you
he's going to help you.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
That's That's how I've.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Been shifting my prayers or the way I talk to
God lately, because I think sometimes you get down on
your knees and you start praying here telling God things
that you think God don't already know. And God knows
what you need. God knows what you want, like he
knows all your desires. He knows what you're dealing with,
what your challenges are. So it's like I don't have
to tell God that. That's what I tell my therapist.
(25:50):
A therapists don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
God knows.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I think with God, I just I really just be
asking for scrimping answers.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Not even answer. Just give me the script to deal with.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Whatever exactly, and he'll help you. He'll help you through it.
And also when you don't know how to pray. You
can also pray God, how should I pray? I mean,
He's gonna help you through all that. He can just
go to leave you out there. You know, That's what
I've realized along my journey and many others. He's your
helper and let him help you. That's not for me
(26:20):
to determine. Oh you know, it depends on you and
what you need in that moment and all of that.
I don't even know how to pray all the time,
so I can't answer that. So I always ask God,
how do you want? How do you want to pray?
And when I can't pray, there's a scripture in the
Bible that says he will intercede for you. So when
I don't know what to say, I need my innecessor
(26:41):
I need him to intercede for me.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
What happens when you can't hear God? Like, do you
have moments like that where you don't hear God?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, where it seemed like you can't hear. But a
lot of times we gotta know, I realize he speaks
in different ways. Sometimes we expect for him to speak
in one way or a way that we're used to it,
But There's been times where he didn't speak to me
directly during prayer time, but after I prayed, he would
send somebody to say this, that and the third and
(27:06):
it would confirm just.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What you know I was just praying about.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
So I think you have to be open to how
he wants to get that answer to you because he's
speaking and when you feel you feel like he's not
just diving worship.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Do you feel like you have to be perfect?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Not at all, not one bit. I don't even listen.
I know that the only perfect person is Jesus, and
I ain't trying to be.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I just try to.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I take it day by day like everybody else, and
try to be a great person. You know, love people
try to do the right thing. We all have mess ups, failures,
but you know, the good thing about it is when
you don't stay there, you choose every day to grow.
And that's what I try to do in that worry
about Jaquelin and j Quala's growth. I'm not perfect things
(27:57):
that in the past that I think like I could
have handled that bet better.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So I want to experience growth in that.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I want to expre you know what I'm saying, Like
I identify where I need growth and then yeah, I
do the work.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I want to ask, like, in your view, what is
the gospel music owes to the legends?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
You feature just the honor overall where we're not pushing
them to the side. There they produced and gave us
music that carried so many even years before now our mothers,
our grandmothers and all these people, and it ain't over
for them.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
They're still doing amazing things.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
When you look at CC Wine and you look at
the Clarks, your Lundon Kirk, all these people who are
doing amazing things. I think it's just our duty to
continue to make them feel like they're needed. There's no
division when it come to that old this is new gospel,
and we want like, no, we still need them because
there are some people that I can't reach that Msdottie
(28:58):
can reach, you know what I'm saying. So all of
us are needed and I think we should, you know,
make them feel that way.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
What's your favorite gospel song of all time?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I love hymns, so I'm gonna awe it. So you
got hymns, It's like amazing grace. You ever heard of
Amazon grades? You got the blood ear reaches of the
highest Mountain. Yeah, those songs like that, like hymns. Yeah,
I'm gonna say some good old hymns, the ones that
I called out. There's not a friend all that.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
So what is Regina Bell? God is good?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I don't know. I've never heard that before.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Is good?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I never heard of it?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Come on, now, that's but if it's I'm pretty sure
it's a gospel, it's a gospel song.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So you have you ever heard of like a hymnal book?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Okay, okay, So if it's not in a hymnal books,
it's a gospel, but it's it's a gospel song.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So most of the time, if it's a hymn, it's
in the book.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, let's play a joint off for album that's out today.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
What do you want to hear?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Let's do I break?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Okay, let's get into that.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Now.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Tell God, even though I was in your business, I'm
a great person you Before we get into it again,
that's just a song of liberation.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I think that we have to understand that we have
to make the decision to say this thing, I can't
carry this anymore wherever. Whatever that this is, whether it's generational, curses,
whether it's negative cycles, in whatever area of your life,
you have to make the choice to break that so
that you can walk into your full potential and be
(30:41):
where you're supposed to be in life. Forgive yourself. Forgive yourself.
You cannot control your past. You're not even there anymore,
So why are you there trying to go back there?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Mentally?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So you have to bring yourself to Now what can
I do better? But before I move into all these blessings,
I need to get rid of this stuff that could
stop me from really embracing it. Because you have you
ever like been blessed with something, and then there's this
one thing that your attention is on. Is keeping you
mentally focused on that where you're not able to fully
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embrace the blessing.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That's not what God's plan is for you. So that's
what this song is for. I break it.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I break it from the root, which means I don't
want no evidence that you done been here.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I don't see.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Oh that's a powful because I see that with people
in your life more so than people will get removed
from your life and you'll be like.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Cloudy, yeah, or it could be a different person but
the same spirit, the same cycle. And so that's when
you have to ask yourself. I had to ask myself,
and in many people anybody else, what is it in
me that keeps allowing this to happen?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
So it's not necessarily sometimes a person, it could be
something that's in you that you have to free yourself
from because if you don't fix it, the same thing
is gonna happen with the next person.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Preacher, I'm tickled.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Let's get into the record right now. You want to
close this out on a prayer, sure do it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Father got in the name of Jesus, I thank you
for everybody who's listening right now. I pray that you
will meet them where they are, that they will feel
your love and your compassion. They will feel your heart
that you desire to see them prosper and thrive in life.
Free them from anything mentally, spiritually, emotionally that has been
holding them in captivity where they're not able to live
to their fullest and highest potential. Thank you for new blessings,
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new seasons of favor. Thank you that this season that
you're pushing them into it will not come with pain.
It would not come. It would not feel like a curse,
but it will feel like a blessing. And every single
thing that you've promised them, we thank you. That's done
in Jesus' name. I pray Amen.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Amen caelin car albums out today. Thank you so much
for joining us, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
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Speaker 3 (33:00):
Good morning. Hold up, every day I wake up.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Clack your ass up, the Breakfast Club. You know I'm finishing.
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