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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club
Morning everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It is DJ n V, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
In the building who keep a job, both of them
from the new film That's Everywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
May twenty fourth. We have Michelle who told around you
did okay?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
All right? In Alana Glazer?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hi, Hey, thanks morning?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Are you feeling this morning?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Good feeling?
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Really?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I mean this is it's like it's like Kwanza every day,
like there's a movie out. It's crazy. Wrote it, you
started it, you produced it.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
She's a powerhouse, not just being thrown out on some
screaming platform.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Correct, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited about that too. Also, press is
like such an insane part of the job. But to
do it with Michelle, we have been just laughing hoopy.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I don't I haven't figured out my dosas yet, but
I don't need it. Just do press, you know what
I mean. It's crazy, but it's fun because we're also
comedians and so we don't mind saying something or talking
about something like twelve thousand times and I join it
every time. It sort of just like, well, it's like sex.
(01:10):
You know, you've got to use your imagination.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
To get it right.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Come on, we got to ask some of the questions.
Did you write the question in married sex?
Speaker 6 (01:21):
We we try to switch it up. We try to do.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Yesime an edible, nobody, no details.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Oh I love them. I was like, absolutely when you
got a hemorrhoid, because that's too vulnerable. Good morning, everybody
talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
With the hemorrhoids to Babes. Okay, tell us what Babes
is about for people that don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Babes is a movie, a heart comedy with a lot
of heart, about two best friends, lifelong friends who are
in very different places in their lives. Michelle's character, Dawn
is married with two kids. My character Eden is a
free spirit, spontaneous, totally naive to the responsibilities of parenting.
And when my character Eden gets pregnant, she decides to
(02:08):
keep the baby and it tests their friendship a crazy way.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Was it a one night stand that you got pregnant?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, that's right, one, Yeah, a very special one night
stand that touched this person.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, Eden, That's how I met my husband too. So
like yes, I always say open your mind, your heart,
and your legs to love because you never know where
you go find it.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
That's right, But you are of a certain age when
that happened, right, Well, we're talking about what somebody I'm
talking about because there was a certain level of experience
and growth that came with the decision.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, I was. I was late twenties, early thirties, and
so you have to be responsible too, cute for bacteria,
get checked out on your sexuality. Definitely, have you know,
hard conversations with people. I am interested, I'm not interested.
And what I do love about this movie is that
you know, I'm the only child, so I really call
my friends my chosen family. And so it's always different
(03:01):
when I have an argument with a cousin compared to
like a best friend, because I'm like, I don't I
don't like this confrontation. And I hope we're still friends
after this, and we've been friends for a very long time.
When this is the first time we're really working together,
and you know, you work with your friend, you hope
it ends well.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
And it was like stronger like a Kelly Clarkson song,
thank God, because I was like, we don't know how
it's going to go. But it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That is like such a risk, Like Michelle was was
so busy having just written and preparing to shoot her
first the first season of Survival of the Thickest her
hit show on Netflix, and.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
They've seen it.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Promoter.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, so we really had to like work it, work
it out to uh to get Michelle, which was amazing.
But the other thing is like the risk of like
how could it turn out in the end, But we're
like closer than even closer than before, which is god, yeah,
thank god.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, And it's also just beautiful working with just bomb
as women who have a vision and want to tell
a story about you know, what happens to our bodies
when we get pregnant, in our relationships not only with
our partners but with ourselves and then our friends, and
then you know what kind of like isolation you might
be going through when you try to have a kid,
(04:22):
and can you talk to anybody and can they relate?
And how do you go back to work and have
all this responsibility. So it's really like educating everybody you know,
whether you have a kid or not, whether you know
somebody with a kid or whatever it is. And it's entertaining,
and once Pamela Adlon was attached as a director, I'm like,
(04:43):
this is going to be good. Yeah, it because you know,
she has five seasons of better things and she's just
a powerhouse too when it really comes to leaning into
the truth of what like a real female experience is like.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
And a lot of you you wrote this, right, is
this like a I don't want to say an tension
of Broad City, but Broad City told a very specific
story of people in their twenties. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Now it's like a woman in there, like late thirties.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's totally like related the vie, you know. And my
character eden Is is definitely similar to Alna Wexler the
way she's like born out of me. I co wrote
it with Josh Rabinowitz and he also wrote on Broad
City and with actually the late great Kevin Barnett. They
were a writing team.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And the character Claude is based on Kevin.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
The character that my my character Eden gets pregnant by
is based on Kevin. And it was like it was
really fun. We were like kind of writing in Kevin's voice.
And Stepan killed it. Yeah, Stephan James killed it. Killed
it really, I think Kevin would be thrilled. That's I
know was being portrayed, was portraying him.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Yeah, was there of any thought like this is what
Eden is what Alana would be doing.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Now, it's like kind of you know, like it's totally related.
And she's you know, she's chill, she's a stoner, she's weird,
you know, in the same way that anything that I
make that's like brilliant my voice is going to be
related to me in that way.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I'm gonna shoe you have babies.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So did you enjoy pregnancy, Because some people enjoy pregnancy,
they love it, and some people just absolutely positively hate it.
Like Jess is not here today because every once in
a while she gets tired of practice one.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
She's like, yeah, I'm good, like most women do, and.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, take a break. It's hard for us to say
no because there's a lot of opportunities for us, especially
to get paid equally, and so we got to show
up and grow a body and like hopefully our uterus
don't drop out on the floor and we're trying to
interview somebody and be cute exactly. And so pregnancy, for me,
this was like a very interesting movie for me to
do because my body couldn't carry my kids, so we
(06:55):
went down the circusy route. And so you know, for me,
I really want to honor it was like to be
pregnant because I never had that experience. So I'm also
learning as a woman what that's like. But what I
did bring to the table was being just a tired
ass mom of five year old twins, where it's like,
if I didn't have kids, I'd probably play this character like, hey, everyone,
(07:16):
I got apple sauce. But when you're tired, just like,
who want it? Open it? Okay, there, go get your
apple sauce. You know what I mean. And so, you know,
just even the nuance of like loving your family but
the way you really talk to them when you're tired
like that, And especially as a comedian, I want to
make it light and bright and funny and fun and
so the great thing about the writing with Josh Milana
(07:37):
and then also the direction with Pamela, She's just like,
you ain't got to say anything, just be still. On comedians,
it's hard for us just to like hear silence, and
I'm like, shouldn't we feel it with a joke and
she's like, no, you are tired stare off into space,
and I was like, oh, that's why I go to
the bathroom and take my phone when I'm at home.
That's right, it's my mean time.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yes, And the movie opens up with this unbelievable labor
scene that Michelle does and the way that you conjured
it's so funny because it's so real, the way that
you like conjured that.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I love physical comedy. It was that's the only kind
of cardio I beget, and it's a physical comedy. It's
so fun. It really is fun. I feel like people
just don't let themselves fly anymore. But I also love
these conversations too, because I even have family members that
will forget that I did not give birth because I
am so in motherhood. And there's no shame to this story.
I think it's there's beauty and alternative family planning and
(08:30):
alternative love and you don't have to be blood related
to somebody to love them, which is like you know
what Babes is about too, And so yeah, I mean,
I don't mind at all, and it's not a mistake
or a mishap on anybody. It's like, it's my story
and I don't mind sharing it. At all, And like
I it was sergacy was not legal in New York
when I was going through it, and so I stopped
with Andy Cohen and Albany and it's overturned nown so
(08:54):
you know, just stational sergacy is legals. So if you,
you know, have to go down that route, like whatever
you want, like whether it's a kid or a career,
whatever you want, I want that for you, just be
a crazy bitch and go get it.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
I'm not a woman, so I can't speak to this,
that's right, but I would feel like I feel like
motherhood and carrying a child is two different things because
you can be a saragate that carries the child, but
you're not taking the journey of motherhood's And.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Also like how hard you work to get to that
place where you know, took you years to get to
this place that you worked so.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Five years, four losses, you work so hard to get
your babies. Yeah, and also did comminate at the same time,
you know what it is? Oh my lord, I'm sure
you guys have been through hard stuff. I don't know
what you've been through. Sometimes we don't. You share so
much every day you have to keep something for yourself, right,
But you know, I think there is power and sharing
because then you do make people feel less alone. And
(09:44):
also it's cathartic for you. So I don't mind.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I'm learning a lot by watching.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I mean, I'm married with four kids, but I'm learning
a lot by watching, just because she comes in here
every morning, she does the show that she's flying to
Charlotte and do stand up this weekend.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
So it's just no, I'm like, no, no, wow.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Oh, you know what. We talked about this all the time.
Rest is also productive. That's okay, sit down.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
She took a day off this week, and I was
happy because most people don't want to. They feel like
they don't want to lose the opportunity. But she get
some She was like, guys, I'm fine, everything's okay. I'm
just taking the day. And I respected that.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, that's the hardest one. You know. We have this
like pulse and pulsing and pulsing to go, go, go,
especially in New York, and you, yeah, you want to
like show up as though you're at the front of
the line too, so it's a real act of strength.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, I hope she gets a nice foot rup, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
You know, a lot of Michelle is in this film
with you all been friends for twenty years, right when
you write something, how do you know this is the
best person for the role.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Are this is my friend? Like, how do you know?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
You know?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Like when I was writing this with Josh, we were
also kind of writing it with our producer, Susie Fox.
So Susie was the dawn in between us because Josh's
wife and I were pregnant at the same time. We
didn't know. I can't believe you have four kids as well.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Talk for.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
God, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
The bathrooms you have. That is a sign of royalty.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yes, that is empire building, that's your ancest dream.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Is incredible, that's the forty Oh my god, bathrooms. Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So Susie was like Michelle's role had a one in
a three year old Josh and I. Josh's wife was pregnant.
I was pregnant, so we didn't know. We were like
my character who didn't know how hard it is to
raise a kid And we can also be a person
if you can manage it. So we like kind of
had our character dynamic filled as we were writing it,
but then once we started getting to casting, we like
(11:49):
wrote it and were greenlit to make the movie quicker
than I think usually happens. And when we were in
the casting mode, like you know, I was getting these
we were talking about lists of actresses and lists of
women that you know, I admire, who I've I've watched
in movies for years, but to see them like on
a list, it was so flattening. I've been saying, like,
(12:09):
do you remember when Mitt Romney was like I have
binders full of women? No, no, Mitt Romney. She was
like running, I guess for president.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Oh yeah, that is so cute.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
It was so that's very Mormon. It was.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It was Mormon. It was uh And she was like
talking about Binder's sould woman and that's like what it was.
And I was like this process is yeah, is like
so this is not hot, you know, especially where I
come from in comedy and like being inspired and writing
characters based on people. And Michelle came to me in
a dream. It was like the thing so obvious, it's
right in front of your nose. And I became obsessed,
(12:44):
like literally like her.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
She forced me into it. I was like, this is
a first grip. I love you. I'm busy. She's like, no, bitch,
you can do, I said, I'm potty training three year
olds right now.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I don't even And I'm not a forceful person. I
do not like to force. I love consent. I do
not like to force people. It was potential by the
time she said yes, but by the time yes, yes,
But but I was just like, damn, like this can't.
I really can't see this as anybody but you, because
like Michelle is so funny but so emotional and like
(13:15):
has such a big heart, and she was the only
person who could who could capture both sides.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And you really wanted a major movie release because with
so many people doing netflixes and TVs and YouTube movies
and this, you wanted to be in the major mab
I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I could only dream. I could only fantasize about that.
The fact that Neon wanted to do that was so exciting.
And they've expanded the theatrical release bigger than we thought.
We thought it would be I think five hundred theater Smax,
but they've expanded it to like a thousand so far.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
So you're I think it's a great time because I'm
I like going to the movies, Like that's just something
I enjoyed doing good for my mission.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Late night.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
I like going to mad Na's, you know, but I
don't mind like a six o'clock right, Yeah, I like
my popcorn, my PM and M. So I'm at the
point now where I'm looking for because so many's so
many limited movies coming to theaters.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
I'm just looking for things that seem good to go see.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, I hope you like it. Yeah, you're gonna love it.
It's dope.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I got seven bedroom school, by the way, I just
thought about.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And then you have a housekeeper every day. You have
to have somebody coming in every day. You do know
this adult thing? I just graduated.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You don't hold you laundry. No, you're too busy for that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
All the young girls two parents.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, that's that's amazing.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
I read what you said.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
You your character on Broad City also named Alana. Yeah
said people thought that was you look you for that
for years. Do you think that if you had to
use a different name, people would still feel.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I think it. I think it would have changed things
for sure, for sure. Yeah, And you know, I guess
it's because we also started as a web series that
we were like just being ourselves. You know, it was
like less less reason to be like protective or something.
But definitely, and you know, I get it. I get
white people mix it up. I mixed it up, you
know what I mean. I was like, yeah, I'm her.
And then it like took a while, especially it took
(15:09):
it ending to realize that I was me.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Oh, how long did it take to get a character
like that out of your system?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Like probably three years, so like realize, you know, and
bait's in your DNA when you do something and care
about something twenty four to seven, three sixty five, it's
very hard to let it go.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, and I'm like doing a lot of work to
grow into a new person.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like a lovely break up, but it's
like a part of time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, I just kind of put her down. Yeah, you know,
and she's she's there. She's in fifty episodes, so I
got her.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Did you talk about some of the cravings women have, Like,
you know, I know my wife wanted ice cream and
strawberries every morning.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Oh did you get it?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Of course, just wanted tacos and she eats lasagna at
six o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I'm done with the sav burritos.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeaheah me too savory.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
You know what's so fun is that I called my
surrogate and asked her she had any cravings, and She's like,
I hate spaghetti with tomato sauce, and I just want
it every day. And I was like, damn my kids,
because I'm a pasta ho like morning, even and night.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
I love pastaasta cars.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
It's just pasta. I don't like bread, but pasta little
maine catchio, peppe, a rigatoni with a vodka sauce, like
a squat ink with like the lobster, and yes, but
like a good shrimp. Yes, with a little red chili
pepper flakes on a nice little buttery shot, A name,
(16:42):
get a little green apple on the back.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
What do you like? What the between films and television?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I mean, besides the paycheck and the time on set?
Just kidding. I with TV you have to tell a
story a lot faster. You have to get to it.
But with film there's time to breathe and grow and
think about what you could do and stuff, And that
editing process is probably harder because you have so much
(17:15):
more stuff because you can play around. But either way,
as a comedian, with a lot of heart. I mean,
it's it's really such a blessing to be doing this.
I mean, I remember you from like the Viacom days
where we weren't even getting paid, like Wendy Williams Gong
Show at Carolines or whatever. I never got goned.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
You never got gone.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
No one never got gone. So, like you know, when
people are just like, how's it feel to be doing
all this stuff, It's just like I've been doing all
this stuff for free for like twenty years, and now
I'm just getting paid, you know what I mean? Thank
god we age will because it takes a while.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
I loved I loved you, I loved First Wives Club.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Me. I don't know how me and my wife just
ended up going down a First Wives Club rabbit hole.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
One oh no on BT plus or Netflix, Netflix, thank god,
I know no, she could be D plus.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
So this is the best eleven ninety nine you'll ever spend.
But it's time. No, we gotta see the Martin reruns somehow.
But like Netflix is such a great platform, and so
I'm so glad so many more people got to see
it because Joe Scott is so funny.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
The whole Castle yeah, jon.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Rico Lee Yuma Delish.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And I was gonna ask how to be and a
mom change you just in life? Right?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I always say when I have my kids, you look
at money differently, right because you think, damn, I.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Gotta pay for high school, I gotta pay for college,
I gotta pay for this. So how has being a
mom changed you? Just in life? And everything scares me? Now.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The other day were walking in the city and my
daughter just graduated from college.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And congratulation, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It was NYU.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
So they block off the street so they have like
this huge thing, and while she's enjoying.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Herself with the friends, I'm like, whyppen it? For car
breaks through this barricade. I'm like everybody would a book.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
In every movie.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Absolutely you check all the and you think you could
do it something. If something does happen, I'm like, you
get thinking like I'm gonna dive and grab her and push.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Look, I will drive over a bridge when they were
like little babies and be like, okay, we get off
this bridge. I'm gonna go on the back, get both
car seats at the same time, like stick them in.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
My bro.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Like a plum size mermaid.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Like think of.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
All types of stuff. But for me being a parent,
I didn't think about money my creative like process. I
felt free. I was like life is beautiful and it's
meant to be lived and it's a miracle that we're here,
so let's just fly baby, and thank God. Like that's
that's when the money started coming, so.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Right, Yeah, And I think that's like not a not
a coincidence. You know, there's like this like magnitude that
you're pulling where you're like I'm in my own world
and like then you become the sun, just pulling in
the other elements.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yes, come on, yoga class, down with dog.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I've been like taking so much more pleasure in comedy
and like less stress less, like more from the inside out.
I think this is what becoming a mom has given me,
where it's like in that same pull too, where like
you know, I don't know, used to like stress or
be like more anxious about stand up and TV and film,
but now it's like I'm really like drinking it in
(20:17):
and my my baby. It's three years old, so I'm
still in that like sort of baby phase and just
enjoying how like insanely cute it is. I can't even believe.
But I'm I know I'm gonna be a.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Oh I'm very anxious. I'm a helicopter, a law and mower.
And I used to like, I'm not even like.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
I get called my oldest fifteen she called me a
helicopter day.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
What is a lawnmower day?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I mean lawnmower is like I will, I will drive
over you to get it done. Like I'm glad that
you think you could climb this tree. You can't let
me get you down, okay. And my husband's European and
so it's very different being married to a person that
grew up in a place where the government actually takes
care of them. So he's like, let them see what.
I'm like, No, no, okay, we don't have a ppo.
(21:03):
Let's just not do that. City MD is open twenty
four hours, but I don't want to find out. So, like,
you know, I do want them. Creatively, I'm just like
fly baby, But physically he's just like let them see.
So we're doing swimming lessons and stuff. But also one
thing I realized as like coming from a big Caribbean family,
(21:23):
I'm telling my kids you don't have to say hi
to everybody.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
You don't have to kiss everyone on the cheek, you
don't have to sit on their lap. You don't have to,
like that's your body, right, So if you don't feel
like doing all that, you don't have to. Because I
was always just you know, you know, and that's weird
for a lot of like my Caribbean family. But I'm like,
I don't care. Let them do what they want to do.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, it makes it it's gross. You don't have to.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
You don't have to. You don't have to sit on
everyone's lap.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
We could, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So you don't let them say hello to people if
they want to.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, I know they're polite, they're actually here.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I get the kids even think about how when we
were raised, like give me a kiss.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, it was just like go there and say, Hi,
that's your uncle I never met.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I gotta be enveloped by some man. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Like no, I mean they're very polite and they like people,
but they get overwhelmed too. Like I just did Colbert
the other night, and every like the whole team was
in the room and they're like, Mama, to have to
say how to everybody? I said, no, No, you could
just go like this or just look the other way.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, yeah, protect yourself, that's right.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
I think that we have this weird thing in our
mind where we think, you know, you learn boundaries at
a certain age. If a two year old, I got
a two year old home to two year said no, yeah,
give me a hug.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
No, I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Respected exactly exactly the same, yes, and and us creating
a saved space for them to put up a boundary too,
because you know, I live in the Bronx. My kids
are could be going to public school. You know, they're
gonna have to learn boundaries and protect themselves with the
kids to.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Do more movies, Michelle one movies.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
We need federal.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Funding for education.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
My kids go to public school.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
The only place I'm all for gentrification.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Oh my god. I know because I went to school too.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
And I'm also like private school is just such a
foreign thing to me, and I'm like, how do you
learn what the world is?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I went to Catholic school and there was like more people,
There was more girls doing fast things and more drugs.
And I mean I played soccer with this, like who
played soccer against this? Like old girl Catholic high school
and I remember so many of the girls got pregnant.
They need a maternity uniform.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
What that's crazy?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Isn't that insane? So I don't know, there's something nice
about public school where it's like shared community. But also
please have a mal detective the Wow, she's right though.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
You just need more. You need to invest more into this.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
That's right. Yes, yeah, I shouldn't have to make more
money to send my kids pay nicer. This is this, this,
this is the country we live in. I'm voting for you.
You know, you have my tax styles and I want
potholes and just like you know, tired teachers. You know,
healthcare shouldn't be a luxury.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
How important is the female bond in friendship when you
have like these big things happen in your life, like
like giving birth, like these big life changes.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I mean it's everything. Yeah, it's like the foundation, I think.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And also like just to hear like the real minutia
and the real details of how you're doing it. That
was something when we were making babes between Pamela and
you and me to talk about how we actually get
it done. It's like new ideas for like lunches or whatever.
It's like so useful.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, it was definitely. I realized that all of us
use there a time, very wisely. And for me being
the first time creator starring in working with Pamela who's
a creator starring in five seasons, then also Alana, I
was like, this is just like a beautiful ass masterclass.
And then going to my set and working with Tasha
(25:07):
Smith in garcel Bouve, I'm just like, you know, there
is a sisterhood no matter where you're from, And it's
like if you don't talk about it, like my therapist
isn't always available and she's expensive, so talk to your friend.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
How much an hour?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Oh my god? Really? Okay it was two fifteen, Now
it's one seventy five fifty.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Well, I got a lot of camera, that's what I
was paying to fifty.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So even the cameraman is like, see yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh now you got to heal me for two fifty.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You need some raakings stuff. Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Damn Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Is Tobobla the tickets coming back?
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It is? Where in the writer's room we're gonna be
filming season two And I got like a crazy ass
show coming up at Radio City Music Hall.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Did I read that the first the first.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Woman ever to tape a special at Radio City. Gradually,
thank you so much. Yeah, I'll put you on the
list if you can get a babysitter. Y'all got a
lot of kids.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Would love to.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Okay, why why did you choose Radio City?
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Just put a historical no.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
No.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I opened for Johnson van Ness, who is on Queer
Eye on Netflix. I opened for them in twenty nineteen
and didn't even realize that I could play a stage
like that because I've never been given the opportunity before.
And I got a standing ovation after fifteen in a set,
and I was like, what is this feeling? This is like,
why am I doing this unless I'm challenging myself? And
(26:31):
so I always had my eye on the prize, but
never thought I could do it because you know, I
don't want to constantly talk about what women are not
getting paid, but it's like those dreams aren't always in
the budget. And then I realized, like, I'm not doing
this for money. I'm doing this for like higher power,
a greater purpose, you know. For me growing up, it
was like will be Goldberg and Simbad, there's gotta be more,
(26:55):
you know, And so I just always want black, brown,
fat or whatever, you know, whoever to like at least
see my set and be like, oh my god, Radio
City I don't even know. I can go see the broadcasts,
let alone film is special there. And so when I
just I just want to look at the place. You know,
you ever go like on a on a housing tour
(27:15):
and just look at the house. You can't afford what
it would look like it feel like. So that's what
it was like. And I was like, who else, Like
what other females performed here and taped a special? You know,
It's kind of like looking at an apartment and be like,
anyone die here and.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Before you?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
And they were like, no one. And then I got
the goosies. The right nipple got hard because that's the
one that really is awake now. And I said, Okay,
I gotta do this. I gotta do it. And so
June sixth, Yes, everybody come out, and you know, bring
two thousand of your friends.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Let's come and let's make it happen.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I'm excited on New York. I also want to take
a hot shit every time I think about it.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
That's good. That means it means something to you, truly. Yeah,
is that. Yes, anxiety kicks in, yeah, regularly now a ritual.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
A lot of the title babes, Like some people would
say babes can be a derogatory term, dependent on the context, offensive,
dependent on the context.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
So why the title babes?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I mean, we went through a lot of titles. I'd
love to be called a babe.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I mean, yeah, some people can.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
It's not widely considered, but something dependent on the context.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Something to a woman. But I love it. Uh, we
just had a listed titles, Yeah you did, and they
were sort of like also like punny, and it was
like eh, and Josh pitched pitched babes, and you know,
it was like also, I think the scope we were
going for, like we really wanted to make a studio
comedy that had a lot of heart, something really funny,
(28:51):
but that you also could tear up or cry at,
and Babes just felt like it was putting the movie
on the map where it was supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, that's a good name, babes.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I know, Josh, do you.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
All care about wokeness when you're writing?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Now?
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Do you worry about things like that?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Oh? Here we go?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Like do you care? Do you just write?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I mean also like wokeness at this point, like the
term what is it? Like who's who is slinging the
term changes the meaning of it. But I feel like,
I don't know, just holding values of like humanizing characters
and letting different kinds of people be complicated and complex
(29:36):
keeps it, keeps the dignity in both the writing and
then for the people performing those roles. So other than that,
I'm I'm not even sure what that means.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Ye, Like I thinks wokeness, you know, the term woke is.
I think a lot of performers are sort of weaponizing
that word because you know, a lot of like you
can't say stuff. It's like you can't say stuff, but
is it funny? Did you work hard enough on it
to make it funny? So you know, we can talk
(30:09):
about things and we can say raunchy, hard whatever stuff,
but you know, make it funny. If not funny, then thought.
But fucking don't be lazy when you're making that much money,
is all I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
That's very true. Does comedy have to offend?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I mean I don't. I don't. I feel like hot
saw should offend to be good, But I don't know
about comedy feel something, you know what I mean. Like,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Offense, like offending is subjective cause it's like pushing an
edge against, up against what you're normally allowed to talk about.
So I guess it would offend people. Like people are
calling this movie so raunchy and and and raunch calm,
and I'm like, it just feels real to me. So
if I'm not offending someone else to make a joke,
(31:01):
I'm using myself and someone else happens to be offended
by it, you know what I mean. So I guess
it does have to be offensive in that way because
it's it's pushing up against what's normally allowed.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I've seen people say the movie is raunchy and it
makes me want to do they really think it's raunchy?
Are is certain topics about women just make certain people uncomfortable?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I think that's it. Yeah, that's it. Like, you know,
women go through your ship, but be quiet about it, right,
you know, show up, but don't be you know, don't
be too sexy. Just be sexy enough that you know
we can tolerate you. Right, have the baby, Why don't
you want a baby? Okay, but get back to your baby. Wait,
you know what I mean, it's like, what are all
(31:43):
these rules we have on our bodies? Also, can we
just live and talk about it?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
You know?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, we really talk in the movie like we talk like, yes,
I see why that would offend some people, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah, it's also like, you know, we play like lifelong
friends from Queens and so I'm from Jerseys, she's from
Long Island. This is just how we like speak to
each other whatever, and so people find that. People find
an defense when I say hello, and I'm like, and
I've truly because I'm married to a Dutch gun. I
used to make a joke about it because he's like,
why are you so aggressive? I was like, I just
asked you how you want your eggs?
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
How do you ask it? How do you want your eggs?
I think he only.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Heard d m X like white white, how it sounds.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Yeah, that is an interesting point, though.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
You can make people uncomfortable just by forcing them to
have a discussion. Yeah, I know, you know, we got
to talk about these issues.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, yeah, Why do you think people are so afraid
to sort of run into the burning building of conversation.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
I think that we need to open it up I
think we need to set buildings on fire on purpose
sometimes just to have of the discussion.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I think people don't want to be truthful, though, and
I think they fear truth because with this society, you
get canceled for being regardless of what you believe in.
So I think a lot of people they look at
what social media goes to ye then they follow like sheep.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Which makes me wonder if you even believe what you
say you believe, because if you say you believe something exactly,
you would have no problem saying it, no problem discussing
I know.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
So there's it's almost like everyone has like a dual
personality who are with their friends and who they are
on social media. Yeah, you know it is hard too though,
because social media is a revolving resume, so if you
speak to power, you could lose jobs and representation and
friendships and so you know. I always thought the hardest
(33:43):
part about being a parent would be, like, you know,
raising them, the money, the bullying, the racism, but also
like trying to figure out how to teach my kids
how to define their worth and power without likes and
followers is something I don't even know how to wrap
my mind around. Right now, Like I don't even know how. Like,
especially having four girls.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
I don't let them use social media? Oh no, what
I don't let them use especially.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
When you read all these stories about how a lot
of these big tech guys they don't even let their talk.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
To have a phone.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
The great book out called The Anxious Generation, that's right,
and it just talks about how social media and we
knew this already, but it just really goes in different houses,
ruining people's mental emotional health, especially kids. So why would
I why would I use?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Are you on your phone around your kids?
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
But I try to practice good habits and not be Yeah,
so I try to just put it away, you know,
especially like tonight, I'll be we got this cuddle time tonight,
we'll be.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Watching Yeah, come on, ma wana, let's go.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I teach the older ones to use it as a tool, right.
I have one that just graduated from n y U
and she's twenty two. She's doing real estate, so I
teach her how to use it as a mold herself.
I have a twenty year old who goes to University
of Miami, and I, you know, teach them.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
How to six six okay.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Oh my and my wife been together thirty years, so
six but less, but the younger.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Ones not, you know, but seven could dance.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So but that's how they communicate with their dance friends
because they send each other dances through YouTube.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But as long as it's private, I don't have a
problem with it.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But I tell them teach them to use it as
a tool, and they've been pretty good with it and
not letting it affect them.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
And I think that's the.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Even conversations around sex, the milkays and even knowing their sexuality,
if they want to wear a bra not on the
crop top and stuff. Is that that you leave to
your wife or do y'all do it together or sometimes
you do it too, like because you can't stop doing it.
You got to keep having that conversation.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Right For me, it's my wife, okay, But I give
my kids the jokes regardless, like they give me jokes.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I give them jokes. It is whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
But when it comes to that sex conversation, my wife
definitely one thousand percent leads and I just fall into
place because it's still uncomfortable. Like my daughter's twenty two,
and it's like she has a boyfriend. I don't want
to know if you're having problems whatever, go talk to mom.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Can you look at the boyfriend and know if he's
a good dude.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
He is a good dude. I do like him.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
They actually the last semester they've been staying at my house,
same bedroom, same bedroom.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Wow, dad, love your dad, Love your dad.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
But I'm gonna tell you why me.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
And my thirty years old a separate bedrooms?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
We were married, But you don't know why me and
my wife, Yes, we were together in college. She was
a old dominion. I went to hamp University. So my
last year my parents and her parents are like, Yo,
they're always together. Why are we paying for separate places?
Put them together? And and it's the same thing. They've
been together for three years. They're always together.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
And they're in that house. So what did y'all married though?
In college?
Speaker 6 (36:45):
No, got married early.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
No, we got married at twenty two. But we were
in college in nineteen twenty one. We were together.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I mean it took me longer to graduate college, but
I do appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, So they do stay in the same bed, and
he does stay and I like him because I can
see how he's around the other kids.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I see how he's around.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
When with my wife, if groceries, he's grabbing the groceries,
he's washing the dishes, he's he's.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Got a free room and body better.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
But you can't teach thoughtfulness like you just have it,
you know. And I always said I don't need to
marry somebody rich. I just need somebody with ambition and
who's thoughtful because money can always come, that's right. Yeah, yeah,
I do. Yeah, I feel like I wouldn't be able
to be with someone who didn't have who wasn't excited
(37:34):
about something by himself, like have your own life. Like
I push him out all the time, I like, go
out with your boys, because he doesn't mind staying home.
I'm like, go out. And that's the thing about this
movie too. All the men in this movie are men.
Like my character has a supportive husband who's like, you
should go out. Stop trying to breastfeed, nothing's happening, get stressed.
(37:54):
Go and I and I love that representation for me,
especially brown men because Hassin, Yeah, he plays my husband,
and it's and it's just like and it's very queens
if you think about it's even Queen's public school friend
for real. But yeah, I feel like we don't see
enough of that because it feels like it's always like, oh,
what am I gonna do with the babies coming? My
(38:14):
favorite thing is ruins. It's like your favorite thing is
surfing turf. Shut the fuck up and we'll go to Sammy.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I like to go out. I like to go out
your own relationship.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Do you like to go out with girls night or
do you say nah, I'd just rather be home with
the family, you.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Know, I have like I have friends, Like I'm friends
with the same amount of like men and women. Especially
when you do comedy, you're friends with total life. So
like it is what it is, and comedy is like
a night out. So I like the kitten heels on. Yep,
you know, give me the white wine. Puts some ice
in it so it could last longer. Yeah, and so yeah,
(38:48):
I like to have people over. I'm a host now,
I liked it. I mean, I have three bathrooms, but
I host.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I like, God is good.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I know, yeah, I know, I like.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
To like to cuddle like Charlene does. But also, like
you know, if I'm going out for comedy, it's like
I'm out, I'm seeing the community, I'm seeing the people.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
So is one, Yeah, we're doing it.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
We all intentional about the menu chose to be in
a film like this, So you got a Samanaj and
all of the Platt and John Carole Lynch.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Were you intentional just.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Like Hasson was was intentional for sure. And also, like
you know, in comedy and in this movie and in
my experience, it's all so derived from real people that
I know who've been doing it and in comedy for
so long. So Hassin I called and asked, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yeah, And I've known him for a really long time.
We used to do the road together. We did colleges
together because book us for like Black History Month lol.
And he also is you know, working with two kids, right,
and so it was nice that we all brought our
tired parents experience and added comedy to it. And he's
such a good act. He's such a good act, a
(39:59):
good nice comedians in a different light, I.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Know, he really like gave it. He really gave like
the the heft to his character too. And he's not
just like this like great husband who's like so happy
to be there. He's also annoyed, he's exhausted, it's lots,
he's upset or whatever. It was. He was great, and
the other guys kind of came later. Oliver Platt that
was really cool, real New York cast. Oliver platte on Caroline.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Now you're from Long Island, right.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, from Suffoc County.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
No, you're from Jersey.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Yeah, Trenton, Trenton, New Jersey hood. You know what. I
was on the other side of the tracks.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Okay, I know there was the other side of the.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Cheerleing competition, and it just looks like a very like
a factory town almost.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Yeah, Trenton takes the world makes whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
The world.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
I'm dyslexic. I'm glad I'm not there.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You're not glad.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Bronx I was the best saying for a while, and
I love the community and best side. But I was like,
you know, I have dogs and kids. Now, I was like,
I need windows and doors and stuff, and so you
look at water, yeah, and I live by the water.
The Bronx is interesting. There's there's a different soul to them.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Live on the other side of the Bronx. She's not
the Bronx that you're thinking.
Speaker 8 (41:18):
Island.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
So if you want to come over and get out,
comes to the island. We got all the crab legs.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Come.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
People in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (41:33):
The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and
all of Florida.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Oh my god. I went to College of Florida. I
actually went to I'm a mask, Thank god, I have freckles.
Solid friendly, but she's crazy. I went to Florida International University,
but I want to go to the u of M
because all my cousins went there. But I wasn't smart enough,
and so, you know, it was interesting, but it was fun.
What I love about South Florida is like closer to
(41:57):
like most Caribbean countries and like US states. So you
get this like crazy flavor of just like loving your
body and celebration of your body. And it's a very interesting.
It's a good education, I think outside of school too.
That's when I started going to like strip clubs for
fun and I was like, whoa, this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
There's a pool on campus, Like my son is having
the best time.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
Every cool. Yeah, but babes babes comes out of there.
And we appreciate you guys for joining us. Thank you
so much on this Frida.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Whate w lat quotes. What does success look like all?
In regard to.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Babes, you know, success has changed the question you asked
before about having kid. How it's changed me. Success has
changed for me into like taking pleasure in the process.
So Babes is already a success. Man, I'm having so
much fun and had so much fun. Thank you for
doing it. You are so funny and amazing, So you
for having It's a success.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
What about.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
I mean to be honest, I feel like this should
be a jump off, like more female powerhouses should be
telling stories about their bodies, especially with what's happening in America.
It's like, you know, culture means something. Books are getting banned,
laws of fun are being made, So make the movie
and the TV shows while you can. And let's not
(43:22):
stop there, Like let's have a hilarious comedy about trans
people like trans comm transrom com I don't know, or
like non binary people like you know, as we are
evolving and learning about like what we can and cannot
do or whatever, it's just like, let's just tell more
stories for us, by us, so we can educate and entertain.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
We need Republican Congress people to be mad at.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Baits, love it to get mad.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Okay about it.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Bright Art, well, thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
For joining us. Fourth It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
Breakfast Club
Speaker 3 (44:08):
M hm.
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club
Morning everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It is DJ n V, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
In the building who keep a job, both of them
from the new film That's Everywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
May twenty fourth. We have Michelle who told around you
did okay?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
All right? In Alana Glazer?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hi, Hey, thanks morning?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Are you feeling this morning?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Good feeling?
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Really?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I mean this is it's like it's like Kwanza every day,
like there's a movie out. It's crazy. Wrote it, you
started it, you produced it.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
She's a powerhouse, not just being thrown out on some
screaming platform.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Correct, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited about that too. Also, press is
like such an insane part of the job. But to
do it with Michelle, we have been just laughing hoopy.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I don't I haven't figured out my dosas yet, but
I don't need it. Just do press, you know what
I mean. It's crazy, but it's fun because we're also
comedians and so we don't mind saying something or talking
about something like twelve thousand times and I join it
every time. It sort of just like, well, it's like sex.
(01:10):
You know, you've got to use your imagination.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
To get it right.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Come on, we got to ask some of the questions.
Did you write the question in married sex?
Speaker 6 (01:21):
We we try to switch it up. We try to do.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Yesime an edible, nobody, no details.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Oh I love them. I was like, absolutely when you
got a hemorrhoid, because that's too vulnerable. Good morning, everybody
talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
With the hemorrhoids to Babes. Okay, tell us what Babes
is about for people that don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Babes is a movie, a heart comedy with a lot
of heart, about two best friends, lifelong friends who are
in very different places in their lives. Michelle's character, Dawn
is married with two kids. My character Eden is a
free spirit, spontaneous, totally naive to the responsibilities of parenting.
And when my character Eden gets pregnant, she decides to
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keep the baby and it tests their friendship a crazy way.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Was it a one night stand that you got pregnant?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, that's right, one, Yeah, a very special one night
stand that touched this person.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, Eden, That's how I met my husband too. So
like yes, I always say open your mind, your heart,
and your legs to love because you never know where
you go find it.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
That's right, But you are of a certain age when
that happened, right, Well, we're talking about what somebody I'm
talking about because there was a certain level of experience
and growth that came with the decision.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, I was. I was late twenties, early thirties, and
so you have to be responsible too, cute for bacteria,
get checked out on your sexuality. Definitely, have you know,
hard conversations with people. I am interested, I'm not interested.
And what I do love about this movie is that
you know, I'm the only child, so I really call
my friends my chosen family. And so it's always different
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when I have an argument with a cousin compared to
like a best friend, because I'm like, I don't I
don't like this confrontation. And I hope we're still friends
after this, and we've been friends for a very long time.
When this is the first time we're really working together,
and you know, you work with your friend, you hope
it ends well.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
And it was like stronger like a Kelly Clarkson song,
thank God, because I was like, we don't know how
it's going to go. But it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That is like such a risk, Like Michelle was was
so busy having just written and preparing to shoot her
first the first season of Survival of the Thickest her
hit show on Netflix, and.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
They've seen it.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Promoter.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, so we really had to like work it, work
it out to uh to get Michelle, which was amazing.
But the other thing is like the risk of like
how could it turn out in the end, But we're
like closer than even closer than before, which is god, yeah,
thank god.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, And it's also just beautiful working with just bomb
as women who have a vision and want to tell
a story about you know, what happens to our bodies
when we get pregnant, in our relationships not only with
our partners but with ourselves and then our friends, and
then you know what kind of like isolation you might
be going through when you try to have a kid,
(04:22):
and can you talk to anybody and can they relate?
And how do you go back to work and have
all this responsibility. So it's really like educating everybody you know,
whether you have a kid or not, whether you know
somebody with a kid or whatever it is. And it's entertaining,
and once Pamela Adlon was attached as a director, I'm like,
(04:43):
this is going to be good. Yeah, it because you know,
she has five seasons of better things and she's just
a powerhouse too when it really comes to leaning into
the truth of what like a real female experience is like.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
And a lot of you you wrote this, right, is
this like a I don't want to say an tension
of Broad City, but Broad City told a very specific
story of people in their twenties. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Now it's like a woman in there, like late thirties.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's totally like related the vie, you know. And my
character eden Is is definitely similar to Alna Wexler the
way she's like born out of me. I co wrote
it with Josh Rabinowitz and he also wrote on Broad
City and with actually the late great Kevin Barnett. They
were a writing team.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And the character Claude is based on Kevin.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
The character that my my character Eden gets pregnant by
is based on Kevin. And it was like it was
really fun. We were like kind of writing in Kevin's voice.
And Stepan killed it. Yeah, Stephan James killed it. Killed
it really, I think Kevin would be thrilled. That's I
know was being portrayed, was portraying him.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Yeah, was there of any thought like this is what
Eden is what Alana would be doing.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Now, it's like kind of you know, like it's totally related.
And she's you know, she's chill, she's a stoner, she's weird,
you know, in the same way that anything that I
make that's like brilliant my voice is going to be
related to me in that way.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I'm gonna shoe you have babies.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So did you enjoy pregnancy, Because some people enjoy pregnancy,
they love it, and some people just absolutely positively hate it.
Like Jess is not here today because every once in
a while she gets tired of practice one.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
She's like, yeah, I'm good, like most women do, and.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, take a break. It's hard for us to say
no because there's a lot of opportunities for us, especially
to get paid equally, and so we got to show
up and grow a body and like hopefully our uterus
don't drop out on the floor and we're trying to
interview somebody and be cute exactly. And so pregnancy, for me,
this was like a very interesting movie for me to
do because my body couldn't carry my kids, so we
(06:55):
went down the circusy route. And so you know, for me,
I really want to honor it was like to be
pregnant because I never had that experience. So I'm also
learning as a woman what that's like. But what I
did bring to the table was being just a tired
ass mom of five year old twins, where it's like,
if I didn't have kids, I'd probably play this character like, hey, everyone,
(07:16):
I got apple sauce. But when you're tired, just like,
who want it? Open it? Okay, there, go get your
apple sauce. You know what I mean. And so, you know,
just even the nuance of like loving your family but
the way you really talk to them when you're tired
like that, And especially as a comedian, I want to
make it light and bright and funny and fun and
so the great thing about the writing with Josh Milana
(07:37):
and then also the direction with Pamela, She's just like,
you ain't got to say anything, just be still. On comedians,
it's hard for us just to like hear silence, and
I'm like, shouldn't we feel it with a joke and
she's like, no, you are tired stare off into space,
and I was like, oh, that's why I go to
the bathroom and take my phone when I'm at home.
That's right, it's my mean time.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yes, And the movie opens up with this unbelievable labor
scene that Michelle does and the way that you conjured
it's so funny because it's so real, the way that
you like conjured that.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I love physical comedy. It was that's the only kind
of cardio I beget, and it's a physical comedy. It's
so fun. It really is fun. I feel like people
just don't let themselves fly anymore. But I also love
these conversations too, because I even have family members that
will forget that I did not give birth because I
am so in motherhood. And there's no shame to this story.
I think it's there's beauty and alternative family planning and
(08:30):
alternative love and you don't have to be blood related
to somebody to love them, which is like you know
what Babes is about too, And so yeah, I mean,
I don't mind at all, and it's not a mistake
or a mishap on anybody. It's like, it's my story
and I don't mind sharing it. At all, And like
I it was sergacy was not legal in New York
when I was going through it, and so I stopped
with Andy Cohen and Albany and it's overturned nown so
(08:54):
you know, just stational sergacy is legals. So if you,
you know, have to go down that route, like whatever
you want, like whether it's a kid or a career,
whatever you want, I want that for you, just be
a crazy bitch and go get it.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
I'm not a woman, so I can't speak to this,
that's right, but I would feel like I feel like
motherhood and carrying a child is two different things because
you can be a saragate that carries the child, but
you're not taking the journey of motherhood's And.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Also like how hard you work to get to that
place where you know, took you years to get to
this place that you worked so.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Five years, four losses, you work so hard to get
your babies. Yeah, and also did comminate at the same time,
you know what it is? Oh my lord, I'm sure
you guys have been through hard stuff. I don't know
what you've been through. Sometimes we don't. You share so
much every day you have to keep something for yourself, right,
But you know, I think there is power and sharing
because then you do make people feel less alone. And
(09:44):
also it's cathartic for you. So I don't mind.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I'm learning a lot by watching.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I mean, I'm married with four kids, but I'm learning
a lot by watching, just because she comes in here
every morning, she does the show that she's flying to
Charlotte and do stand up this weekend.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
So it's just no, I'm like, no, no, wow.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Oh, you know what. We talked about this all the time.
Rest is also productive. That's okay, sit down.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
She took a day off this week, and I was
happy because most people don't want to. They feel like
they don't want to lose the opportunity. But she get
some She was like, guys, I'm fine, everything's okay. I'm
just taking the day. And I respected that.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, that's the hardest one. You know. We have this
like pulse and pulsing and pulsing to go, go, go,
especially in New York, and you, yeah, you want to
like show up as though you're at the front of
the line too, so it's a real act of strength.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, I hope she gets a nice foot rup, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
You know, a lot of Michelle is in this film
with you all been friends for twenty years, right when
you write something, how do you know this is the
best person for the role.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Are this is my friend? Like, how do you know?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
You know?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Like when I was writing this with Josh, we were
also kind of writing it with our producer, Susie Fox.
So Susie was the dawn in between us because Josh's
wife and I were pregnant at the same time. We
didn't know. I can't believe you have four kids as well.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Talk for.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
God, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
The bathrooms you have. That is a sign of royalty.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yes, that is empire building, that's your ancest dream.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Is incredible, that's the forty Oh my god, bathrooms. Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So Susie was like Michelle's role had a one in
a three year old Josh and I. Josh's wife was pregnant.
I was pregnant, so we didn't know. We were like
my character who didn't know how hard it is to
raise a kid And we can also be a person
if you can manage it. So we like kind of
had our character dynamic filled as we were writing it,
but then once we started getting to casting, we like
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wrote it and were greenlit to make the movie quicker
than I think usually happens. And when we were in
the casting mode, like you know, I was getting these
we were talking about lists of actresses and lists of
women that you know, I admire, who I've I've watched
in movies for years, but to see them like on
a list, it was so flattening. I've been saying, like,
(12:09):
do you remember when Mitt Romney was like I have
binders full of women? No, no, Mitt Romney. She was
like running, I guess for president.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Oh yeah, that is so cute.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
It was so that's very Mormon. It was.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It was Mormon. It was uh And she was like
talking about Binder's sould woman and that's like what it was.
And I was like this process is yeah, is like
so this is not hot, you know, especially where I
come from in comedy and like being inspired and writing
characters based on people. And Michelle came to me in
a dream. It was like the thing so obvious, it's
right in front of your nose. And I became obsessed,
(12:44):
like literally like her.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
She forced me into it. I was like, this is
a first grip. I love you. I'm busy. She's like, no, bitch,
you can do, I said, I'm potty training three year
olds right now.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I don't even And I'm not a forceful person. I
do not like to force. I love consent. I do
not like to force people. It was potential by the
time she said yes, but by the time yes, yes,
But but I was just like, damn, like this can't.
I really can't see this as anybody but you, because
like Michelle is so funny but so emotional and like
(13:15):
has such a big heart, and she was the only
person who could who could capture both sides.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And you really wanted a major movie release because with
so many people doing netflixes and TVs and YouTube movies
and this, you wanted to be in the major mab
I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I could only dream. I could only fantasize about that.
The fact that Neon wanted to do that was so exciting.
And they've expanded the theatrical release bigger than we thought.
We thought it would be I think five hundred theater Smax,
but they've expanded it to like a thousand so far.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
So you're I think it's a great time because I'm
I like going to the movies, Like that's just something
I enjoyed doing good for my mission.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Late night.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
I like going to mad Na's, you know, but I
don't mind like a six o'clock right, Yeah, I like
my popcorn, my PM and M. So I'm at the
point now where I'm looking for because so many's so
many limited movies coming to theaters.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
I'm just looking for things that seem good to go see.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, I hope you like it. Yeah, you're gonna love it.
It's dope.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I got seven bedroom school, by the way, I just
thought about.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And then you have a housekeeper every day. You have
to have somebody coming in every day. You do know
this adult thing? I just graduated.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You don't hold you laundry. No, you're too busy for that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
All the young girls two parents.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, that's that's amazing.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
I read what you said.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
You your character on Broad City also named Alana. Yeah
said people thought that was you look you for that
for years. Do you think that if you had to
use a different name, people would still feel.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I think it. I think it would have changed things
for sure, for sure. Yeah, And you know, I guess
it's because we also started as a web series that
we were like just being ourselves. You know, it was
like less less reason to be like protective or something.
But definitely, and you know, I get it. I get
white people mix it up. I mixed it up, you
know what I mean. I was like, yeah, I'm her.
And then it like took a while, especially it took
(15:09):
it ending to realize that I was me.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Oh, how long did it take to get a character
like that out of your system?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Like probably three years, so like realize, you know, and
bait's in your DNA when you do something and care
about something twenty four to seven, three sixty five, it's
very hard to let it go.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, and I'm like doing a lot of work to
grow into a new person.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like a lovely break up, but it's
like a part of time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, I just kind of put her down. Yeah, you know,
and she's she's there. She's in fifty episodes, so I
got her.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Did you talk about some of the cravings women have, Like,
you know, I know my wife wanted ice cream and
strawberries every morning.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Oh did you get it?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Of course, just wanted tacos and she eats lasagna at
six o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I'm done with the sav burritos.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeaheah me too savory.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
You know what's so fun is that I called my
surrogate and asked her she had any cravings, and She's like,
I hate spaghetti with tomato sauce, and I just want
it every day. And I was like, damn my kids,
because I'm a pasta ho like morning, even and night.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
I love pastaasta cars.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
It's just pasta. I don't like bread, but pasta little
maine catchio, peppe, a rigatoni with a vodka sauce, like
a squat ink with like the lobster, and yes, but
like a good shrimp. Yes, with a little red chili
pepper flakes on a nice little buttery shot, A name,
(16:42):
get a little green apple on the back.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
What do you like? What the between films and television?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I mean, besides the paycheck and the time on set?
Just kidding. I with TV you have to tell a
story a lot faster. You have to get to it.
But with film there's time to breathe and grow and
think about what you could do and stuff, And that
editing process is probably harder because you have so much
(17:15):
more stuff because you can play around. But either way,
as a comedian, with a lot of heart. I mean,
it's it's really such a blessing to be doing this.
I mean, I remember you from like the Viacom days
where we weren't even getting paid, like Wendy Williams Gong
Show at Carolines or whatever. I never got goned.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
You never got gone.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
No one never got gone. So, like you know, when
people are just like, how's it feel to be doing
all this stuff, It's just like I've been doing all
this stuff for free for like twenty years, and now
I'm just getting paid, you know what I mean? Thank
god we age will because it takes a while.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
I loved I loved you, I loved First Wives Club.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Me. I don't know how me and my wife just
ended up going down a First Wives Club rabbit hole.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
One oh no on BT plus or Netflix, Netflix, thank god,
I know no, she could be D plus.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
So this is the best eleven ninety nine you'll ever spend.
But it's time. No, we gotta see the Martin reruns somehow.
But like Netflix is such a great platform, and so
I'm so glad so many more people got to see
it because Joe Scott is so funny.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
The whole Castle yeah, jon.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Rico Lee Yuma Delish.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And I was gonna ask how to be and a
mom change you just in life? Right?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I always say when I have my kids, you look
at money differently, right because you think, damn, I.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Gotta pay for high school, I gotta pay for college,
I gotta pay for this. So how has being a
mom changed you? Just in life? And everything scares me? Now.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The other day were walking in the city and my
daughter just graduated from college.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And congratulation, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It was NYU.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
So they block off the street so they have like
this huge thing, and while she's enjoying.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Herself with the friends, I'm like, whyppen it? For car
breaks through this barricade. I'm like everybody would a book.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
In every movie.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Absolutely you check all the and you think you could
do it something. If something does happen, I'm like, you
get thinking like I'm gonna dive and grab her and push.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Look, I will drive over a bridge when they were
like little babies and be like, okay, we get off
this bridge. I'm gonna go on the back, get both
car seats at the same time, like stick them in.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
My bro.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Like a plum size mermaid.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Like think of.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
All types of stuff. But for me being a parent,
I didn't think about money my creative like process. I
felt free. I was like life is beautiful and it's
meant to be lived and it's a miracle that we're here,
so let's just fly baby, and thank God. Like that's
that's when the money started coming, so.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Right, Yeah, And I think that's like not a not
a coincidence. You know, there's like this like magnitude that
you're pulling where you're like I'm in my own world
and like then you become the sun, just pulling in
the other elements.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yes, come on, yoga class, down with dog.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I've been like taking so much more pleasure in comedy
and like less stress less, like more from the inside out.
I think this is what becoming a mom has given me,
where it's like in that same pull too, where like
you know, I don't know, used to like stress or
be like more anxious about stand up and TV and film,
but now it's like I'm really like drinking it in
(20:17):
and my my baby. It's three years old, so I'm
still in that like sort of baby phase and just
enjoying how like insanely cute it is. I can't even believe.
But I'm I know I'm gonna be a.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Oh I'm very anxious. I'm a helicopter, a law and mower.
And I used to like, I'm not even like.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
I get called my oldest fifteen she called me a
helicopter day.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
What is a lawnmower day?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I mean lawnmower is like I will, I will drive
over you to get it done. Like I'm glad that
you think you could climb this tree. You can't let
me get you down, okay. And my husband's European and
so it's very different being married to a person that
grew up in a place where the government actually takes
care of them. So he's like, let them see what.
I'm like, No, no, okay, we don't have a ppo.
(21:03):
Let's just not do that. City MD is open twenty
four hours, but I don't want to find out. So, like,
you know, I do want them. Creatively, I'm just like
fly baby, But physically he's just like let them see.
So we're doing swimming lessons and stuff. But also one
thing I realized as like coming from a big Caribbean family,
(21:23):
I'm telling my kids you don't have to say hi
to everybody.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
You don't have to kiss everyone on the cheek, you
don't have to sit on their lap. You don't have to,
like that's your body, right, So if you don't feel
like doing all that, you don't have to. Because I
was always just you know, you know, and that's weird
for a lot of like my Caribbean family. But I'm like,
I don't care. Let them do what they want to do.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, it makes it it's gross. You don't have to.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
You don't have to. You don't have to sit on
everyone's lap.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
We could, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So you don't let them say hello to people if
they want to.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, I know they're polite, they're actually here.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I get the kids even think about how when we
were raised, like give me a kiss.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, it was just like go there and say, Hi,
that's your uncle I never met.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I gotta be enveloped by some man. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Like no, I mean they're very polite and they like people,
but they get overwhelmed too. Like I just did Colbert
the other night, and every like the whole team was
in the room and they're like, Mama, to have to
say how to everybody? I said, no, No, you could
just go like this or just look the other way.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, yeah, protect yourself, that's right.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
I think that we have this weird thing in our
mind where we think, you know, you learn boundaries at
a certain age. If a two year old, I got
a two year old home to two year said no, yeah,
give me a hug.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
No, I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Respected exactly exactly the same, yes, and and us creating
a saved space for them to put up a boundary too,
because you know, I live in the Bronx. My kids
are could be going to public school. You know, they're
gonna have to learn boundaries and protect themselves with the
kids to.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Do more movies, Michelle one movies.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
We need federal.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Funding for education.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
My kids go to public school.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
The only place I'm all for gentrification.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Oh my god. I know because I went to school too.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
And I'm also like private school is just such a
foreign thing to me, and I'm like, how do you
learn what the world is?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I went to Catholic school and there was like more people,
There was more girls doing fast things and more drugs.
And I mean I played soccer with this, like who
played soccer against this? Like old girl Catholic high school
and I remember so many of the girls got pregnant.
They need a maternity uniform.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
What that's crazy?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Isn't that insane? So I don't know, there's something nice
about public school where it's like shared community. But also
please have a mal detective the Wow, she's right though.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
You just need more. You need to invest more into this.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
That's right. Yes, yeah, I shouldn't have to make more
money to send my kids pay nicer. This is this, this,
this is the country we live in. I'm voting for you.
You know, you have my tax styles and I want
potholes and just like you know, tired teachers. You know,
healthcare shouldn't be a luxury.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
How important is the female bond in friendship when you
have like these big things happen in your life, like
like giving birth, like these big life changes.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I mean it's everything. Yeah, it's like the foundation, I think.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And also like just to hear like the real minutia
and the real details of how you're doing it. That
was something when we were making babes between Pamela and
you and me to talk about how we actually get
it done. It's like new ideas for like lunches or whatever.
It's like so useful.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, it was definitely. I realized that all of us
use there a time, very wisely. And for me being
the first time creator starring in working with Pamela who's
a creator starring in five seasons, then also Alana, I
was like, this is just like a beautiful ass masterclass.
And then going to my set and working with Tasha
(25:07):
Smith in garcel Bouve, I'm just like, you know, there
is a sisterhood no matter where you're from, And it's
like if you don't talk about it, like my therapist
isn't always available and she's expensive, so talk to your friend.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
How much an hour?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Oh my god? Really? Okay it was two fifteen, Now
it's one seventy five fifty.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Well, I got a lot of camera, that's what I
was paying to fifty.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So even the cameraman is like, see yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh now you got to heal me for two fifty.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You need some raakings stuff. Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Damn Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Is Tobobla the tickets coming back?
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It is? Where in the writer's room we're gonna be
filming season two And I got like a crazy ass
show coming up at Radio City Music Hall.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Did I read that the first the first.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Woman ever to tape a special at Radio City. Gradually,
thank you so much. Yeah, I'll put you on the
list if you can get a babysitter. Y'all got a
lot of kids.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Would love to.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Okay, why why did you choose Radio City?
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Just put a historical no.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
No.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I opened for Johnson van Ness, who is on Queer
Eye on Netflix. I opened for them in twenty nineteen
and didn't even realize that I could play a stage
like that because I've never been given the opportunity before.
And I got a standing ovation after fifteen in a set,
and I was like, what is this feeling? This is like,
why am I doing this unless I'm challenging myself? And
(26:31):
so I always had my eye on the prize, but
never thought I could do it because you know, I
don't want to constantly talk about what women are not
getting paid, but it's like those dreams aren't always in
the budget. And then I realized, like, I'm not doing
this for money. I'm doing this for like higher power,
a greater purpose, you know. For me growing up, it
was like will be Goldberg and Simbad, there's gotta be more,
(26:55):
you know, And so I just always want black, brown,
fat or whatever, you know, whoever to like at least
see my set and be like, oh my god, Radio
City I don't even know. I can go see the broadcasts,
let alone film is special there. And so when I
just I just want to look at the place. You know,
you ever go like on a on a housing tour
(27:15):
and just look at the house. You can't afford what
it would look like it feel like. So that's what
it was like. And I was like, who else, Like
what other females performed here and taped a special? You know,
It's kind of like looking at an apartment and be like,
anyone die here and.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Before you?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
And they were like, no one. And then I got
the goosies. The right nipple got hard because that's the
one that really is awake now. And I said, Okay,
I gotta do this. I gotta do it. And so
June sixth, Yes, everybody come out, and you know, bring
two thousand of your friends.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Let's come and let's make it happen.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I'm excited on New York. I also want to take
a hot shit every time I think about it.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
That's good. That means it means something to you, truly. Yeah,
is that. Yes, anxiety kicks in, yeah, regularly now a ritual.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
A lot of the title babes, Like some people would
say babes can be a derogatory term, dependent on the context, offensive,
dependent on the context.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
So why the title babes?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I mean, we went through a lot of titles. I'd
love to be called a babe.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I mean, yeah, some people can.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
It's not widely considered, but something dependent on the context.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Something to a woman. But I love it. Uh, we
just had a listed titles, Yeah you did, and they
were sort of like also like punny, and it was
like eh, and Josh pitched pitched babes, and you know,
it was like also, I think the scope we were
going for, like we really wanted to make a studio
comedy that had a lot of heart, something really funny,
(28:51):
but that you also could tear up or cry at,
and Babes just felt like it was putting the movie
on the map where it was supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, that's a good name, babes.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I know, Josh, do you.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
All care about wokeness when you're writing?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Now?
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Do you worry about things like that?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Oh? Here we go?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Like do you care? Do you just write?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I mean also like wokeness at this point, like the
term what is it? Like who's who is slinging the
term changes the meaning of it. But I feel like,
I don't know, just holding values of like humanizing characters
and letting different kinds of people be complicated and complex
(29:36):
keeps it, keeps the dignity in both the writing and
then for the people performing those roles. So other than that,
I'm I'm not even sure what that means.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Ye, Like I thinks wokeness, you know, the term woke is.
I think a lot of performers are sort of weaponizing
that word because you know, a lot of like you
can't say stuff. It's like you can't say stuff, but
is it funny? Did you work hard enough on it
to make it funny? So you know, we can talk
(30:09):
about things and we can say raunchy, hard whatever stuff,
but you know, make it funny. If not funny, then thought.
But fucking don't be lazy when you're making that much money,
is all I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
That's very true. Does comedy have to offend?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I mean I don't. I don't. I feel like hot
saw should offend to be good, But I don't know
about comedy feel something, you know what I mean. Like,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Offense, like offending is subjective cause it's like pushing an
edge against, up against what you're normally allowed to talk about.
So I guess it would offend people. Like people are
calling this movie so raunchy and and and raunch calm,
and I'm like, it just feels real to me. So
if I'm not offending someone else to make a joke,
(31:01):
I'm using myself and someone else happens to be offended
by it, you know what I mean. So I guess
it does have to be offensive in that way because
it's it's pushing up against what's normally allowed.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I've seen people say the movie is raunchy and it
makes me want to do they really think it's raunchy?
Are is certain topics about women just make certain people uncomfortable?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I think that's it. Yeah, that's it. Like, you know,
women go through your ship, but be quiet about it, right,
you know, show up, but don't be you know, don't
be too sexy. Just be sexy enough that you know
we can tolerate you. Right, have the baby, Why don't
you want a baby? Okay, but get back to your baby. Wait,
you know what I mean, it's like, what are all
(31:43):
these rules we have on our bodies? Also, can we
just live and talk about it?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
You know?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, we really talk in the movie like we talk like, yes,
I see why that would offend some people, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah, it's also like, you know, we play like lifelong
friends from Queens and so I'm from Jerseys, she's from
Long Island. This is just how we like speak to
each other whatever, and so people find that. People find
an defense when I say hello, and I'm like, and
I've truly because I'm married to a Dutch gun. I
used to make a joke about it because he's like,
why are you so aggressive? I was like, I just
asked you how you want your eggs?
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
How do you ask it? How do you want your eggs?
I think he only.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Heard d m X like white white, how it sounds.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Yeah, that is an interesting point, though.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
You can make people uncomfortable just by forcing them to
have a discussion. Yeah, I know, you know, we got
to talk about these issues.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, yeah, Why do you think people are so afraid
to sort of run into the burning building of conversation.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
I think that we need to open it up I
think we need to set buildings on fire on purpose
sometimes just to have of the discussion.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I think people don't want to be truthful, though, and
I think they fear truth because with this society, you
get canceled for being regardless of what you believe in.
So I think a lot of people they look at
what social media goes to ye then they follow like sheep.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Which makes me wonder if you even believe what you
say you believe, because if you say you believe something exactly,
you would have no problem saying it, no problem discussing
I know.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
So there's it's almost like everyone has like a dual
personality who are with their friends and who they are
on social media. Yeah, you know it is hard too though,
because social media is a revolving resume, so if you
speak to power, you could lose jobs and representation and
friendships and so you know. I always thought the hardest
(33:43):
part about being a parent would be, like, you know,
raising them, the money, the bullying, the racism, but also
like trying to figure out how to teach my kids
how to define their worth and power without likes and
followers is something I don't even know how to wrap
my mind around. Right now, Like I don't even know how. Like,
especially having four girls.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
I don't let them use social media? Oh no, what
I don't let them use especially.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
When you read all these stories about how a lot
of these big tech guys they don't even let their talk.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
To have a phone.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
The great book out called The Anxious Generation, that's right,
and it just talks about how social media and we
knew this already, but it just really goes in different houses,
ruining people's mental emotional health, especially kids. So why would
I why would I use?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Are you on your phone around your kids?
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
But I try to practice good habits and not be Yeah,
so I try to just put it away, you know,
especially like tonight, I'll be we got this cuddle time tonight,
we'll be.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Watching Yeah, come on, ma wana, let's go.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I teach the older ones to use it as a tool, right.
I have one that just graduated from n y U
and she's twenty two. She's doing real estate, so I
teach her how to use it as a mold herself.
I have a twenty year old who goes to University
of Miami, and I, you know, teach them.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
How to six six okay.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Oh my and my wife been together thirty years, so
six but less, but the younger.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Ones not, you know, but seven could dance.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So but that's how they communicate with their dance friends
because they send each other dances through YouTube.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But as long as it's private, I don't have a
problem with it.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But I tell them teach them to use it as
a tool, and they've been pretty good with it and
not letting it affect them.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
And I think that's the.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Even conversations around sex, the milkays and even knowing their sexuality,
if they want to wear a bra not on the
crop top and stuff. Is that that you leave to
your wife or do y'all do it together or sometimes
you do it too, like because you can't stop doing it.
You got to keep having that conversation.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Right For me, it's my wife, okay, But I give
my kids the jokes regardless, like they give me jokes.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I give them jokes. It is whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
But when it comes to that sex conversation, my wife
definitely one thousand percent leads and I just fall into
place because it's still uncomfortable. Like my daughter's twenty two,
and it's like she has a boyfriend. I don't want
to know if you're having problems whatever, go talk to mom.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Can you look at the boyfriend and know if he's
a good dude.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
He is a good dude. I do like him.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
They actually the last semester they've been staying at my house,
same bedroom, same bedroom.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Wow, dad, love your dad, Love your dad.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
But I'm gonna tell you why me.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
And my thirty years old a separate bedrooms?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
We were married, But you don't know why me and
my wife, Yes, we were together in college. She was
a old dominion. I went to hamp University. So my
last year my parents and her parents are like, Yo,
they're always together. Why are we paying for separate places?
Put them together? And and it's the same thing. They've
been together for three years. They're always together.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
And they're in that house. So what did y'all married though?
In college?
Speaker 6 (36:45):
No, got married early.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
No, we got married at twenty two. But we were
in college in nineteen twenty one. We were together.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I mean it took me longer to graduate college, but
I do appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, So they do stay in the same bed, and
he does stay and I like him because I can
see how he's around the other kids.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I see how he's around.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
When with my wife, if groceries, he's grabbing the groceries,
he's washing the dishes, he's he's.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Got a free room and body better.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
But you can't teach thoughtfulness like you just have it,
you know. And I always said I don't need to
marry somebody rich. I just need somebody with ambition and
who's thoughtful because money can always come, that's right. Yeah, yeah,
I do. Yeah, I feel like I wouldn't be able
to be with someone who didn't have who wasn't excited
(37:34):
about something by himself, like have your own life. Like
I push him out all the time, I like, go
out with your boys, because he doesn't mind staying home.
I'm like, go out. And that's the thing about this
movie too. All the men in this movie are men.
Like my character has a supportive husband who's like, you
should go out. Stop trying to breastfeed, nothing's happening, get stressed.
(37:54):
Go and I and I love that representation for me,
especially brown men because Hassin, Yeah, he plays my husband,
and it's and it's just like and it's very queens
if you think about it's even Queen's public school friend
for real. But yeah, I feel like we don't see
enough of that because it feels like it's always like, oh,
what am I gonna do with the babies coming? My
(38:14):
favorite thing is ruins. It's like your favorite thing is
surfing turf. Shut the fuck up and we'll go to Sammy.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I like to go out. I like to go out
your own relationship.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Do you like to go out with girls night or
do you say nah, I'd just rather be home with
the family, you.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Know, I have like I have friends, Like I'm friends
with the same amount of like men and women. Especially
when you do comedy, you're friends with total life. So
like it is what it is, and comedy is like
a night out. So I like the kitten heels on. Yep,
you know, give me the white wine. Puts some ice
in it so it could last longer. Yeah, and so yeah,
(38:48):
I like to have people over. I'm a host now,
I liked it. I mean, I have three bathrooms, but
I host.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I like, God is good.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I know, yeah, I know, I like.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
To like to cuddle like Charlene does. But also, like
you know, if I'm going out for comedy, it's like
I'm out, I'm seeing the community, I'm seeing the people.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
So is one, Yeah, we're doing it.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
We all intentional about the menu chose to be in
a film like this, So you got a Samanaj and
all of the Platt and John Carole Lynch.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Were you intentional just.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Like Hasson was was intentional for sure. And also, like
you know, in comedy and in this movie and in
my experience, it's all so derived from real people that
I know who've been doing it and in comedy for
so long. So Hassin I called and asked, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yeah, And I've known him for a really long time.
We used to do the road together. We did colleges
together because book us for like Black History Month lol.
And he also is you know, working with two kids, right,
and so it was nice that we all brought our
tired parents experience and added comedy to it. And he's
such a good act. He's such a good act, a
(39:59):
good nice comedians in a different light, I.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Know, he really like gave it. He really gave like
the the heft to his character too. And he's not
just like this like great husband who's like so happy
to be there. He's also annoyed, he's exhausted, it's lots,
he's upset or whatever. It was. He was great, and
the other guys kind of came later. Oliver Platt that
was really cool, real New York cast. Oliver platte on Caroline.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Now you're from Long Island, right.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, from Suffoc County.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
No, you're from Jersey.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Yeah, Trenton, Trenton, New Jersey hood. You know what. I
was on the other side of the tracks.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Okay, I know there was the other side of the.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Cheerleing competition, and it just looks like a very like
a factory town almost.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Yeah, Trenton takes the world makes whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
The world.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
I'm dyslexic. I'm glad I'm not there.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You're not glad.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Bronx I was the best saying for a while, and
I love the community and best side. But I was like,
you know, I have dogs and kids. Now, I was like,
I need windows and doors and stuff, and so you
look at water, yeah, and I live by the water.
The Bronx is interesting. There's there's a different soul to them.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Live on the other side of the Bronx. She's not
the Bronx that you're thinking.
Speaker 8 (41:18):
Island.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
So if you want to come over and get out,
comes to the island. We got all the crab legs.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Come.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
People in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (41:33):
The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and
all of Florida.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Oh my god. I went to College of Florida. I
actually went to I'm a mask, Thank god, I have freckles.
Solid friendly, but she's crazy. I went to Florida International University,
but I want to go to the u of M
because all my cousins went there. But I wasn't smart enough,
and so, you know, it was interesting, but it was fun.
What I love about South Florida is like closer to
(41:57):
like most Caribbean countries and like US states. So you
get this like crazy flavor of just like loving your
body and celebration of your body. And it's a very interesting.
It's a good education, I think outside of school too.
That's when I started going to like strip clubs for
fun and I was like, whoa, this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
There's a pool on campus, Like my son is having
the best time.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
Every cool. Yeah, but babes babes comes out of there.
And we appreciate you guys for joining us. Thank you
so much on this Frida.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Whate w lat quotes. What does success look like all?
In regard to.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Babes, you know, success has changed the question you asked
before about having kid. How it's changed me. Success has
changed for me into like taking pleasure in the process.
So Babes is already a success. Man, I'm having so
much fun and had so much fun. Thank you for
doing it. You are so funny and amazing, So you
for having It's a success.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
What about.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
I mean to be honest, I feel like this should
be a jump off, like more female powerhouses should be
telling stories about their bodies, especially with what's happening in America.
It's like, you know, culture means something. Books are getting banned,
laws of fun are being made, So make the movie
and the TV shows while you can. And let's not
(43:22):
stop there, Like let's have a hilarious comedy about trans
people like trans comm transrom com I don't know, or
like non binary people like you know, as we are
evolving and learning about like what we can and cannot
do or whatever, it's just like, let's just tell more
stories for us, by us, so we can educate and entertain.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
We need Republican Congress people to be mad at.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Baits, love it to get mad.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Okay about it.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Bright Art, well, thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
For joining us. Fourth It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
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Speaker 3 (44:08):
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