August 29, 2025 • 30 mins
Today on Breakfast Club, Miles Minnick On Christian Slaps, Linking With Lecrae, New Album. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Every day Up click yours.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Up the breakfast Club. You don't finish for y'all, dunk morning.
Speaker 4 (00:07):
Everybody is the DJ Envy just hilarious, charlamage, the gud
We are the breakfast Club. Lonla Rosa is here. Yes, indeed,
you got a special guest in the building. We have
Miles Minnick.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Welcome. Did I see your last thing?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Right?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
You did?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You did?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
It was good man, blessed, holly flavored. Man, It's a
blessing to be here for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Happy to have you.
Speaker 6 (00:25):
Man.
Speaker 7 (00:25):
You got an album uh coming out called Today Well
August one night called.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
How You Pronounced It?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Via Dela Rosa.
Speaker 7 (00:32):
I was listening to it. The best way to describe
it is a bunch of spiritual slaps.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, alright, slaps for the song. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7 (00:41):
Do you think there's a ceiling on how well a
Christian based artist in mainstream?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
No? Okay, no, I don't.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I think I think we can take it as far
as anybody else could take it, because at the end
of the day, it's us talking about our real life experiences,
you know what I'm saying, and rap it's all about
being authentic to yourself and so for me and being
true to me, like I'm a kid from Cali, I'm
a kid that fell in love with Jesus, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And so I mixed all of that into the music.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
That's what I want. I want to know when that happened.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Was it was it already in you as a kid
growing up or does something happen that says, nah, I'm
gonna shift my life for this.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Ah?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
No, it was definitely it was not in me when
I was a kid, Like church was never like a
mediatory thing in my household, you know what I'm saying.
Like the most that we would ever do when it
came to God was like prevor food, you know what
I'm saying. So for me, I'll never forget. I was
sixteen years old in the middle of a smoking session.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was a huge head. My friend Dante was like, hey, bro.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm the earth Man for you and me, Myles.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
I feel but I had a stronghold on me back then,
so like, I'll never forget. My friend Dante was like, bro,
we should go to church right now.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Mid smoking session? Like that sound like yeaheah, he said.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
We should go right now. I'm like, like for what
He's like, no, you don't Sunday. It was a Wednesday night,
so it was like yeah, yeah, for the youth group.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
He's like, yo, it's all the high school girls.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You understanding it? Be lit Like trust me, let's go.
And so they talked me into.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
All the high school I want to make sure about
now I.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Know why you're in.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
And so we got there, but the youth group was
closed at night, so he went into the main service
with the adults and me being the main one who
didn't want to be there. I'm like on the edge
of my seat, like actually like listening and like tapped in.
And I had no prior experience to church, so I
don't know the rules of it and nothing, but I
know like I felt something I never felt before. And
then the pastor didn't off the cala at the end.
(02:39):
Out of this pack church, I was the only one
to go to the front tiers of my eyes.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I don't even know why I'm crying.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
And then he prayed for me, and I literally feel
like God take away one how I gave me a
knowing And then I started to investigate what that feeling was,
and that let me here.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
No gotta think the weak. That's God man. The weed
is from the earth. You and your many high. He
got a calling and he led you right where you.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Need it to be.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
He said, you gotta think it led you right where
you need to be.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Dang, and God can use whatever you want to use.
You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
He gave you a new eye. So what did you
start seeing with the new eye?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, a new high at new high new for sure,
but like like.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
Yeah, no, I'm just wondering because I know, like a
lot of times people say, like when people get baptized,
for instance, or at least in black churches, when you
get baptized, it's supposed to be like okay, now I'm
like I can start fresh and I've repented and all
the things. I was wondering if you had that feeling
of like instantly, here's some things I'm gonna let go,
or like what was the renewed feeling?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yeah, So it was definitely a process for me to
like let go the old ways, you know what I'm saying.
Because I was like the party dude, Like I would
gather all my friends from the school, like.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Let's go to this function, let's go to the op
or whatever.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
And so I would try to be on that same road,
but I'll never forget, Like I'll have like threty people
with me walking to a party, and then I'm I'll
walk slower and slower, and it's.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Like like go home, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
And I trying to say out of the streets because
I have, like my appetite slowly but surely started to
change after that day.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
For sure.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
You know, your music is so unapologetically you know, about
God and Christ in it.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
How do you balance staying.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
Bold about your faith with you know, while still making
them slaps mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I mean it's just it's both as authentically who I am.
I grew up on mac dre e forty, you know
what I'm saying, like in all the sudden color fame
music as well. So it's like I lean into the
sound that's a part of my DNA and I just
I just tell my story, bro And and really I
like to what they say is a mix of medicine
in with the candy, because like when you first hear it,
(04:47):
a lot of people say they don't know it's Christian
until like the third or fourth listen.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh, so they talking about God, you know what I'm saying.
So that's how we run it.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
A Christian based artists and a gospel ortist.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Uh. I guess it depends.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It's like if you want to get into like like
the worship like like singing type of music, I would
say the gospel genre versus the Christian or CCM, which
is a contemporary Christian Gospel is more so like Black
Church and CCM is more like, you know, evangelical the
White Church, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So like Kirk Franklin is.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Like gospel elevation worship is like CCM, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
And your music are you trying to because not even
your visuals as well. I saw the video you put
up when you were doing High Fee for God.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Oh yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Are you trying to? Like do you do you want
to reach people who are already Christians, already believers or
do you use you mix the medicine with the King
to bring in people that you want to deliver and
bring to the Word, Like what's your focus?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
So definitely, like I definitely want to reach people that
believe what I believe. But I would say my main
focus right now is recent folks that that don't necessarily
believe it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I believe, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And that's why I like everything that on my Instagram
right now, is it's tailored towards reaching people who don't
have the same experiences as me as far as God
is concerned, but may have the same like street experiences
as me, or like fan of him.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
And it felt so bad feeling like this, But when
I went to your Instagram, I was like, he doesn't
give what people would think when they hear Christian artists
or gospel based artists like but I have in my church.
I got homies in my church that are like the
Jordans and sneaker lovers that you know what I mean.
But I think people have like this idea of like
what a young Christian leader or whatever should be like.
(06:32):
But you were complete opposite aesthetic everything.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah. So for so, I mean like, I don't want
to be something I'm not. You know what I'm saying.
I want to be unapologetically who God made me to be.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You know what I'm saying. I grew up in a
one parent household. I grew up doing drug selling drugs.
My brother in jail right now, you know what I mean.
It's like the culture I grew up in. It's hard
to extract that from my DNA. So it's just give
what you get, you know.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
I was like, what's your family dynamic like because you
said didn't grow up with God in the house as much?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Correct, A.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Big shout out shout out to Pops Man. Yeah, the
og jeff Mini Senior, West Pillsburgh, California. He's my biggest
fan for show. He doesn't necessarily live the life that
I live. He's still the og out there. He about
sixty right now, but still like going to them clubs,
all in the club and from my brother Jeffrey. I
(07:27):
think he'll be out in a couple of weeks. Actually,
he's been down for a few years years. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So yeah, God has been
working on him too, in himself, So looking forward to that.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
You know what's so interesting And I was thinking about
this the other day and you made me think about it,
just having this conversation. When I look at somebody like
La Craze with that new reconstruction model, you know, your project.
What I'm realizing is I had a perception of what
I thought Christian rappers are supposed to say.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Like, and honestly, I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Yeah, I'm just like, I just thought that they're supposed
to sound this way, and they they not post to
rap over these kind of records, and they might be
you know, rapping the way you wrap it away the
crazy rapper. It's like where that came from? Where I
even get that perception from.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
That's how I felt when I looked at your Instagram
and I was like, why do I feel like people
should look a certain way because you in the.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Church at church right right? You know what I'm saying, Like,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
We've seen by the way, we've seen drunk aunties in
the church all the time. You're not the church the
church drunk with a couple of guys, you know what
I mean. Didn't Jesus drink wine?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Jesus turned water into wine.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Okay, so it's whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Did Jesus drink wine? I'm not drinking.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
I'm not any stances of any sort. I'm actually doing
a fast right now, just in that you're here.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But why is that? Why do you have that mindset.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I don't know, uh, I think I think you know.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
A lot of us, you know, grew up in church,
and and for many of us, church wasn't a place
that we wanted to go to.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I wasn't heavy in church as a kid, but I
remember going to Easter service with my grandma, and that's
the last thing I wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I had to endure it. And so a lot of
people have the same experience. And so when they think
of Christian rap or gospel rap, it's like, oh, man,
I ain't trying to hear that. It's probably they probably
got a three piece suit on, some alligator shoes that's
too big for them. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I ain't trying to I ain't trying to hear that.
But if you just tap into it, you may be
surprised of what you get.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
If you think it's still misunderstood about the Christian rap.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
John mmmm, that we're not as good as everybody else.
You know what I'm saying, That we don't have the
same potential and ability to top the charts and sell
our shows like everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I totally create that when he was hit last time.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
I said, Man, if you weren't a Christian artist, people
would hear Reconstruction and they would just say, Yo, this
should be in the rap album of.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
The year, clearly, clearly, clearly. And that's why, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I mean, folks are coming with they want to call me,
but I'm reluctant of the title because of that fact,
Like do I want to put myself in a certain box,
you know what i mean. But I'm grateful that even
though I'm labeled as that, we are reaching certain heights.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I mean, I'm on a breakfast club, bro, Like, what.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Were you talking about? And you've been mentioning here before
you even got in.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I've seen that. I've seen that. Shout out to John
Keith and Dark Child, Man, I was crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I want to ask you, so what what got you
into rappid? What made you say this is what I
want to do?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Was it the same high day or was it?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
What?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Similar times? Similar? Similar time in my life? For sure?
So I grew up in a musical family. Shout out
to Uncle Moe.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
He turned my grandma's garage into a studio, you know,
saying it all my cousins, my brother and they was
just in a lab every single summer, just locked in.
And I was an introverted kid just soaking it all in.
But when I turned fifteen, I just started a freestyling
every day, just going going.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
All my friends like moles Bro you trashed, Just stop, Bro,
just stop. But I kept going a bunch of friends
like Charla man ahead, Hey look yeah, trolling me.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
But then, but when I was sixteen, though, we started
a rap group in high school. Group it was a squad,
like active squad back in the day like get Active
was like the moving back then. And so did a
talent show, won the whole talent show. When I was sixteen,
went solo.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And you know it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
When I went solo that year for the talent show,
all the judges was Christian rap artists, like on a
on a low. They was all Christian artists. But I
only knew that because I was a part of the
Black student Union. And so I said, yo, if I'm
a win this talent show, let me do a creation
rap song. And that that look, he was a part
of my transformation as well, like first dabbling into that
joint and we won that joint too.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Yeah, I also think about it, because you know, you
always hear Christians and gospel artists talk about secular music.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So in my mind, I know what secular music sounds like.
I guess when I hear your joint, I'm like, this
sounds like secular music, but it's not. Like it sounds
like it, but it's not. Yeah, So I'm like, is
it to sound too? Can you are allowed to make
these slap smiles?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Am I allowed to make the slaves? If I'm allowed
to do it or not, I'm gonna do it, you
know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, But that's the intention.
Like I wanted to be able to blend in with
everything else. I want to be on the playlist with
everybody else. I don't want you to hear it and
be like, Yo, what is this this church music? Like
I wanted to feel like something you could play in
the club, so they could play it in the club,
so they could play it on the radio. Shout out
(12:22):
to all the radio sass playing our song with he
forty and the crab Man. We are number thirty one
rhythmic radio all over America right now, and I'm saying
the name of Jesus on the record, but it's slave,
it's slap, and so we're gonna keep going in this
lane for shure.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Man Head has been talking to me about you for
so long. DJ head DZ.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Yeah, Man, it's funny because I'm thinking you just another
new dope rapper from the West, and he never told
me you was a Christian artist.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
He wanted me to hear the music.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
He was like, Yo, you need to listen to this
dude mouth and he just sent me a bunch of
music and I'm just listening, like, yeah, he tough.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And then I'm like he's like, yo, you know he're
a Christian rapper. I'm like a Christian rapper. I just
thought you was spiritual. Yeah, that's not new, like you
know and everybody, so that's not new.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I just I was like, damn exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I'm just talking about my faith, man, I'm talking about
what's important to me. But you're still finish get that base,
You're still finna get them hooks.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I want to ask, like you mentioned DMX, right, so
what makes a Christian rapper Christian rapper? Was DMX a
Christian rapper because he shoots you on one record.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
At the end of that ended out.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
You know, yo yo, must let the DMX man long Live,
Long Lived. So I think I think what classified somebody
as a Christian rapper is when their whole catalog is
aimed in that direction.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
People can make faith based songs, but if their catalog
doesn't reflect that holistically, then I don't think we can
put that label on them, you know what I'm saying,
Except I don't know chance the rapper Loky really I mean,
but but that's a hot take, though I'll get flamed
of saying that. But like a lot of a lot
of his music is faith, especially like Coloring Book, like
(14:01):
he had worship songs on that absolute you know what
I'm saying, and even on this one, like he got
real Christian based songs on that joint.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
With the Life of Pablo album.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
This is a gondream to me, that.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Was that was a Christian song.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
A lot of music artists will always say or like
happened to like like you said, grow up in church
or go to church of some sort where, like that's
your experience in music young, And they bring that in
because they're using choirs and all the instruments, so it
feels like Baptist Church.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
They say a lot of the the most iconic musicians
actually come out of the church, you know, like Aretha Franklin,
Whitney Houston. I think even Beyonce grew up in church too.
So like that at a young age, it shapes you.
Emojie for sure.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Are there artists that you like are looking forward to
working with that you haven't yet that might not be
in the christ Like who's taught? Who's like go to
number one?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Ken Jack Lama.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
I can see that. I can see that very easily.
I'm surprised there's been no connection there.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I mean, I mean, listen, I'm one person away.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
DJ Head is like you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
And and even we're part of the same circles in
a lot of ways, and so I don't know, I.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Think you know, you know, OK, you got something.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
K is low key like Batman.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
He be watching from the shadows like and then's striking
like when it's time, uh, something to mine for sure,
like like a slap for the Saul.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You know what I'm saying. What he does is not
far off.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's not you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It's not far off.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Like he makes slaps with substance if you think about it,
like like even not like us, it's a slap with
substance to it. That third verse, he's schooling you, giving
you game and information, and so I think we can
make something special.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Was that a moment where you felt pressure the water
down your message for like broaday acceptance?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
No never, no never never. You know, it's funny in
a lot of ways, I felt more embraced by the
secular than I did by the church initially, Like a
lot of the shows I was doing was like in
the hoods at the clubs, still doing this kind of music,
but they would be like turn it away, like the
energy would be crazy, you know. So I just my
(16:29):
entire career up to this point, I've kept it the same,
and I'm blessed that they could resonate with the church
audience and the general market.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Was it difficult at first though? Coming out coming from
going doing the hood clubs and the hood recorders? Was
that difficult at first when people are like, I don't
know about it, but did they show a lot of
love from the beginning.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
No front of lokey front of beginning like I did
an a war ceremony in the bay. It was called
nine Quarter Awards. It was really like a gangster rap
a war ceremony, and I was the only Christian rapper
book there. I did Christian rap music all of that. Yeah,
I'll never forget. The music got cut off because of
a difficulty or whatever. And when the music cut off,
I did a freestyle.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I was like, devil want to run up on me.
It's bad. God on my side, God is my dad
at the Devil want to run upon me? It's bad.
The whole theater went stupid crazy. Somebody recorded it.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
It went viral on Facebook, and that gave me like
my Christian rap career because of me being in an
environment like that, that just embraced, you know, authenticity.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Man, when it comes to rappers from the baby what
comes first to beat? A youall voice? Because your voice sounds.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Like the beat like to beat, like like like what
was like what comes first you? When I listened to forty, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Like, yeah, they sounds just like the beat.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
Was about to energy. It is just like that too,
and that.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Yeah yea naturally I say, I say the beat, the
beat makes our voice do.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That, Like you know what I'm saying. Get you like grudging,
like it's the sneak.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
You know what I'm saying, YadA, Yeah, it just it
just comes out, you know what I'm saying, and shout
out the bay man.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's no place like home.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Man.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
When you did the method, did you tell forty what
to do?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Are you just sent the record?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Forty ain't new? It is? He true?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
It is like he knew exactly how to fulfill the assignment.
So I just said, go crazy, and he went crazy.
But nout the only the only bar that people try
to target me about in regards to what he said.
It's like, every day is communic because I drink my
own wine. You know what I'm saying, Like people, it's.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Like every day is communion. You're promoting drinking every day?
Oh my god, his own wine? What do you mean?
I'm like, he got his own wine brand, Like let him.
Let him push his wine brand. The Bible talk about wine.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
He talking about taking communion, like be happy with that.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That that'd be the biggest issue with all religion.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
It's like especially Christianity because it's like it says dow
shall not judge, but it feels like you're only judging, Like,
why can't you just let people live even figure it
out on their own.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Track eight on my album talks about that. It's called
not my job. You know, Jesus said love God and
love people. He didn't say love God and judge people.
And so that's really what I stand on, and I
think that's larger part of why we're being so embraced
by the mainstream. It's like, I'm not pointing fingers at people,
you know what I'm saying. I'm not trying to condemn people.
(19:23):
I'm welcoming to people. I want to hear your perspective
here of your heart, you know what I'm saying. And
I let people. I let people just let them live
while I'm playing in my own seeds at the same time.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
But yeah, it's what it is.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
How do you measure the impact of your art? What
it be through sales, streams, testimonies? Are young people running
up on you saying, yo, your music changed my life,
like combination of it all, I think.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I think it becomes real to me when people actually
like pop out at the shows at our festivals. I
got a festival called glow Fests in the Bay each
and every single year, that thing just we break fire
cold in that joint and it's that. But then hearing
the stories like during the meet and Greece, like, man,
your music of me, get off of meth, Your music
(20:09):
of me, get off of off the bottle. You know
what I'm saying, Like if it wasn't for your music,
I would have like off myself. Like those kind of
things really really put it into perspective, like what we're
doing has more impact than just turning somebody up.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It turns them up to look at the higher things,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Who was your influences coming out as a Christian raper,
who was somebody like I like the way he does.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
It lookray O Craig was for sure for sure, And
I mean like he was the pioneer of this whole
lane and even taking it to the mainstream like win
of four Grammys, being the first one of us from
our lane to be on Breakfast Club to have a
number one album in twenty fifteen, like what we're talking about,
so to see, like the music is incredible, for sure,
(20:51):
but even like the branding the movement, him having a label,
him putting on other artists, and it was an easy
example to follow for.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Shure, y'all going on tour together.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes, they're it's a global tour.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I think I heard, yeah, they're yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Uh, well he's actually starting the global run right now.
He going to Europe, Australia, Africa.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I'm just doing the North American run. But yeah, we're
doing thirty plus cities in America. So that thought October first.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Wow, how did y'a meet?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
How did you look? Meat?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Super crazy story?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
And so I back in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, he
was doing his Anomaly tour. He came to the Bay
Area and I was determined to meet him, but I
don't have meet and greet money, and so I snuck
by his tour bus and I waited by his tour
bus for hours to meet him. After he came out,
and when he came out, I shook his hand. I
was like, Lukray, you don't know who I am, but
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one day I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Gonna work with you. I'm gonna travel the world with you.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I'm gonna learn from you, and I'm gonna make the
same min name pack on the world as you, but
take it to higher heights.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
He yel security.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
No, he was like, I believe with you, young brother,
and then seven years after that he reached out to
me to do music, not even knowing that was me.
I did that that day, don't you remember after I
talked Yeah, at the end of our video shoot for
our first song, I'm like, remember that kid back in
the bay who like it was me?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
He like you, that was you?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Oh my guard, and then like all his wheels started
to turning.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
But that's that's a god story, bro. You can't make
that up.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You said you you want to do something with Kendrick.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
When you heard Kendrick shout out La Craye and d
want did that feel like you was getting closer?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Like he definitely watched it, like if you know, do
you want to Craze?
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I know you heard one of my songs came down,
I know it and then me and crazed up the
Collade project.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I'm like, oh yeah, like it. It's amount of time
at a time.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Your grandmother baptized you.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
No, oh okay, I thought you had a lyrically said,
granny took me to the ocean, put me underneath the
tie crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
That was cray Craig Craze. Grandma baptized them on a
ba in San Diego.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Yeah, but he said this on the collab album Yeah,
on the Method Got You.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That was Lacrey, nobody else like to read my own. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Now, do you see yourself as more of a pastor
with a beat or an artist who just happens to preach?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That was my question.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I don't consider myself a pastor with a beat. A
pastor is a heavy title. A pastor or somebody like
you shepherd a flock like you're there, like like checking
in on people and walking them through, you know, life,
which I do. I guess I pastor a few people
on my team, right, but pastoring in clonation, that's that's
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a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's a lot to do.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
So I consider myself a man of God, uh with
with slapping beats, you know what I'm saying, telling my
story and reaching the word.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
So it's crazy because I consider I don't consider you're
a pastor. But I feel like when artists make music
that is in the gospel realm, you are. You have
followers the same way a pastor would. It's just a
different type of church.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah for sure. For so, you know, it's crazy.
Before this, I was actually a youth pastor in a
Bay Area and so I really really started to get
into like this kind of music when I was in
a church, just trying to turn the youth up, you
know what I mean. But now I just do it
just for the rest.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Of the world.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
But I'm doing the same thing I was doing before,
it on a larger scale. So in a way, you're
definitely correct.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So do you call other hip hop secular music? No? Okay,
what do you call it?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I mean when I'm talking to like my Christian audience,
I do, because that's what they understand. But typically I
say mainstream or general market artists. I don't want to
like alien aid and put that title on them, like
cause secular means without God, and a lot of these
artists aren't without God. They have them, they just have
a different art form expression.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
So how do you draw from mainstream hip hop and
culture while still turning it into something that's like holy
and redemptive? M M.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I mean I'm within it, you know what I'm saying.
I'm within the mainstream culture now and I'm also within
the church.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And so when I'm making.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Music, you get the best of both worlds without me,
without me compromising either, you know what I'm saying, Like
when you hear my music, it's on that level that
you're here on the radio, and it's also something that
the church could appreciate and a slap like I'm not
breaking the I guess the rules of the church or
disrespecting the Bible. I'm honoring the Bible and making stuff
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good enough to hear.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
On a global level, you feel pressure at all, you
know because a lot of people I'm sure follow you,
listen to you because they feel like your story is
closer to theirs, right, they came from a certain place,
they did a certain thing, and you know, people make mistakes.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
But then when people.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Look at the church sometimes they feel like a pastor
acts like they're holier than that and what they should do.
And then you know when they pull a curtain back,
it's like this passage is cheating on this one or
this passages did this this pass it of that. So
does that give you any way of like any pressure
with what you do in life outside of the music, personal,
the way you walk.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Et cetera.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I mean, with with the platform comes pressure for sure,
And I definitely don't want to be the next person
to temper somebody's faith by a certain mistake that I
could fall into. But I mean, you know, we all
have temptations, and I got the same mound tentations as
any anybody else with a platform or anybody else period.
(26:36):
But what keeps me, what keeps me grounded with the
right perspective, is having the right ones around me with safeguards.
Like my tour manager has my hotel key, all my
I remember. My team has the passwords of my phone,
Like my team has my social media loginst like they
know what's happening, they know what's up, because I don't
want to fall into that. So there is pressure, but
(26:57):
I think it's healthy pressure.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
The first Christian act to be booked there rolling.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Out for show for show, So let me let me,
let me give the context to it. So there was
a Christian rap set in Miami before my set, but
but that set was more like Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
DJ.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I don't know why I'm drawing a blank. He's the
fifth of these everyone allowed shout out to you bro.
He books like eight Christian rappers to come out during
his set. So that happened, but as official, like I'm
going rolling, I'm going to book a Christian artist for
a full set. Yes, in Los Angeles, California in March.
That thing went crazy?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Is the Dji Venom five venoms?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, shout out to five venoms?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Man, what role do you think Christian rap? It's my
last lues rolled.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
I think Christian rap plays and bringing I guess the
church to the streets.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Are are you trying to bring the streets to the church?
Like what yo? I don't want to say all the
christ trap particular.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, by I think my music takes
the church to the block with the intention of bringing
the block to the church.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, for sure. Like like when you hear.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
My music, man, I'll be I'll be driving around through
La through the Bay, I'll be hearing my stuff through
every neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Bro like slapping in the truck God then stocking Richmond.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Oh, like it's reaching them, but with the intention for
them to get closer to God.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You know what I'm saying. So that's what it is
for us.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Yeah, I mean it's almost impossible for you to be
judgment to it because because of.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
How you got brought to God. Yeah, smoking that weed,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
For sure, Like I get it, like I understand people struggles,
people's stories like I lived it, and a lot of
my family is still living it.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'm still in it in a lot of ways.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
And so they love God and love people, not just people.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
We appreciate you for joining us. What you want to
play off the album The method Man?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
All right, let's play The method Man featuring E forty
and A cray Man from the West to the World.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Let's get it.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
And the album is out today. The album is out right.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Now, right now. The album VA do.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It's Miles Mintic. What does that mean anyway?
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Yeah, via the rosa, it translates to the pathway or
the sorrowful road. It's literally the road that Jesus walked
on when he's carrying his cross. I am ethnically ambiguous,
you know what I'm saying. Shout out to my Messicans.
But I'm not mesking. I'm half black, half white.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
You don't say Haesus Christ just because.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Hazeus Crystal, I do.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I do?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah, yeah, we got we got Hazu's Cristalle hats and
all of that popping off.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
But yeah, dope, I just realize that's Jesus testimony.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But you see that Jesus on the cross.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Look, look, give me your mail in the address.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
IM gonna send you all pack somewhere people christ Like
Collection dot com and we gotta pop.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Up today in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Let's get it all right, Miles Midtic, It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, ye hold.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Up every day I wake, click your ass up the
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
You'll finish for y'all. Done,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Every day Up click yours.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Up the breakfast Club. You don't finish for y'all, dunk morning.
Speaker 4 (00:07):
Everybody is the DJ Envy just hilarious, charlamage, the gud
We are the breakfast Club. Lonla Rosa is here. Yes, indeed,
you got a special guest in the building. We have
Miles Minnick.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Welcome. Did I see your last thing?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Right?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
You did?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You did?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
It was good man, blessed, holly flavored. Man, It's a
blessing to be here for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Happy to have you.
Speaker 6 (00:25):
Man.
Speaker 7 (00:25):
You got an album uh coming out called Today Well
August one night called.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
How You Pronounced It?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Via Dela Rosa.
Speaker 7 (00:32):
I was listening to it. The best way to describe
it is a bunch of spiritual slaps.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, alright, slaps for the song. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7 (00:41):
Do you think there's a ceiling on how well a
Christian based artist in mainstream?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
No? Okay, no, I don't.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I think I think we can take it as far
as anybody else could take it, because at the end
of the day, it's us talking about our real life experiences,
you know what I'm saying, and rap it's all about
being authentic to yourself and so for me and being
true to me, like I'm a kid from Cali, I'm
a kid that fell in love with Jesus, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And so I mixed all of that into the music.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
That's what I want. I want to know when that happened.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Was it was it already in you as a kid
growing up or does something happen that says, nah, I'm
gonna shift my life for this.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Ah?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
No, it was definitely it was not in me when
I was a kid, Like church was never like a
mediatory thing in my household, you know what I'm saying.
Like the most that we would ever do when it
came to God was like prevor food, you know what
I'm saying. So for me, I'll never forget. I was
sixteen years old in the middle of a smoking session.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was a huge head. My friend Dante was like, hey, bro.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm the earth Man for you and me, Myles.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
I feel but I had a stronghold on me back then,
so like, I'll never forget. My friend Dante was like, bro,
we should go to church right now.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Mid smoking session? Like that sound like yeaheah, he said.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
We should go right now. I'm like, like for what
He's like, no, you don't Sunday. It was a Wednesday night,
so it was like yeah, yeah, for the youth group.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
He's like, yo, it's all the high school girls.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You understanding it? Be lit Like trust me, let's go.
And so they talked me into.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
All the high school I want to make sure about
now I.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Know why you're in.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
And so we got there, but the youth group was
closed at night, so he went into the main service
with the adults and me being the main one who
didn't want to be there. I'm like on the edge
of my seat, like actually like listening and like tapped in.
And I had no prior experience to church, so I
don't know the rules of it and nothing, but I
know like I felt something I never felt before. And
then the pastor didn't off the cala at the end.
(02:39):
Out of this pack church, I was the only one
to go to the front tiers of my eyes.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I don't even know why I'm crying.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
And then he prayed for me, and I literally feel
like God take away one how I gave me a
knowing And then I started to investigate what that feeling was,
and that let me here.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
No gotta think the weak. That's God man. The weed
is from the earth. You and your many high. He
got a calling and he led you right where you.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Need it to be.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
He said, you gotta think it led you right where
you need to be.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Dang, and God can use whatever you want to use.
You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
He gave you a new eye. So what did you
start seeing with the new eye?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, a new high at new high new for sure,
but like like.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
Yeah, no, I'm just wondering because I know, like a
lot of times people say, like when people get baptized,
for instance, or at least in black churches, when you
get baptized, it's supposed to be like okay, now I'm
like I can start fresh and I've repented and all
the things. I was wondering if you had that feeling
of like instantly, here's some things I'm gonna let go,
or like what was the renewed feeling?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yeah, So it was definitely a process for me to
like let go the old ways, you know what I'm saying.
Because I was like the party dude, Like I would
gather all my friends from the school, like.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Let's go to this function, let's go to the op
or whatever.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
And so I would try to be on that same road,
but I'll never forget, Like I'll have like threty people
with me walking to a party, and then I'm I'll
walk slower and slower, and it's.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Like like go home, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
And I trying to say out of the streets because
I have, like my appetite slowly but surely started to
change after that day.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
For sure.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
You know, your music is so unapologetically you know, about
God and Christ in it.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
How do you balance staying.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
Bold about your faith with you know, while still making
them slaps mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I mean it's just it's both as authentically who I am.
I grew up on mac dre e forty, you know
what I'm saying, like in all the sudden color fame
music as well. So it's like I lean into the
sound that's a part of my DNA and I just
I just tell my story, bro And and really I
like to what they say is a mix of medicine
in with the candy, because like when you first hear it,
(04:47):
a lot of people say they don't know it's Christian
until like the third or fourth listen.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh, so they talking about God, you know what I'm saying.
So that's how we run it.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
A Christian based artists and a gospel ortist.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Uh. I guess it depends.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It's like if you want to get into like like
the worship like like singing type of music, I would
say the gospel genre versus the Christian or CCM, which
is a contemporary Christian Gospel is more so like Black
Church and CCM is more like, you know, evangelical the
White Church, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So like Kirk Franklin is.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Like gospel elevation worship is like CCM, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
And your music are you trying to because not even
your visuals as well. I saw the video you put
up when you were doing High Fee for God.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Oh yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Are you trying to? Like do you do you want
to reach people who are already Christians, already believers or
do you use you mix the medicine with the King
to bring in people that you want to deliver and
bring to the Word, Like what's your focus?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
So definitely, like I definitely want to reach people that
believe what I believe. But I would say my main
focus right now is recent folks that that don't necessarily
believe it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I believe, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And that's why I like everything that on my Instagram
right now, is it's tailored towards reaching people who don't
have the same experiences as me as far as God
is concerned, but may have the same like street experiences
as me, or like fan of him.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
And it felt so bad feeling like this, But when
I went to your Instagram, I was like, he doesn't
give what people would think when they hear Christian artists
or gospel based artists like but I have in my church.
I got homies in my church that are like the
Jordans and sneaker lovers that you know what I mean.
But I think people have like this idea of like
what a young Christian leader or whatever should be like.
(06:32):
But you were complete opposite aesthetic everything.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah. So for so, I mean like, I don't want
to be something I'm not. You know what I'm saying.
I want to be unapologetically who God made me to be.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You know what I'm saying. I grew up in a
one parent household. I grew up doing drug selling drugs.
My brother in jail right now, you know what I mean.
It's like the culture I grew up in. It's hard
to extract that from my DNA. So it's just give
what you get, you know.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
I was like, what's your family dynamic like because you
said didn't grow up with God in the house as much?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Correct, A.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Big shout out shout out to Pops Man. Yeah, the
og jeff Mini Senior, West Pillsburgh, California. He's my biggest
fan for show. He doesn't necessarily live the life that
I live. He's still the og out there. He about
sixty right now, but still like going to them clubs,
all in the club and from my brother Jeffrey. I
(07:27):
think he'll be out in a couple of weeks. Actually,
he's been down for a few years years. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So yeah, God has been
working on him too, in himself, So looking forward to that.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
You know what's so interesting And I was thinking about
this the other day and you made me think about it,
just having this conversation. When I look at somebody like
La Craze with that new reconstruction model, you know, your project.
What I'm realizing is I had a perception of what
I thought Christian rappers are supposed to say.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Like, and honestly, I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Yeah, I'm just like, I just thought that they're supposed
to sound this way, and they they not post to
rap over these kind of records, and they might be
you know, rapping the way you wrap it away the
crazy rapper. It's like where that came from? Where I
even get that perception from.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
That's how I felt when I looked at your Instagram
and I was like, why do I feel like people
should look a certain way because you in the.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Church at church right right? You know what I'm saying, Like,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
We've seen by the way, we've seen drunk aunties in
the church all the time. You're not the church the
church drunk with a couple of guys, you know what
I mean. Didn't Jesus drink wine?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Jesus turned water into wine.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Okay, so it's whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Did Jesus drink wine? I'm not drinking.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
I'm not any stances of any sort. I'm actually doing
a fast right now, just in that you're here.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But why is that? Why do you have that mindset.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I don't know, uh, I think I think you know.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
A lot of us, you know, grew up in church,
and and for many of us, church wasn't a place
that we wanted to go to.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I wasn't heavy in church as a kid, but I
remember going to Easter service with my grandma, and that's
the last thing I wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I had to endure it. And so a lot of
people have the same experience. And so when they think
of Christian rap or gospel rap, it's like, oh, man,
I ain't trying to hear that. It's probably they probably
got a three piece suit on, some alligator shoes that's
too big for them. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I ain't trying to I ain't trying to hear that.
But if you just tap into it, you may be
surprised of what you get.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
If you think it's still misunderstood about the Christian rap.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
John mmmm, that we're not as good as everybody else.
You know what I'm saying, That we don't have the
same potential and ability to top the charts and sell
our shows like everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I totally create that when he was hit last time.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
I said, Man, if you weren't a Christian artist, people
would hear Reconstruction and they would just say, Yo, this
should be in the rap album of.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
The year, clearly, clearly, clearly. And that's why, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I mean, folks are coming with they want to call me,
but I'm reluctant of the title because of that fact,
Like do I want to put myself in a certain box,
you know what i mean. But I'm grateful that even
though I'm labeled as that, we are reaching certain heights.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I mean, I'm on a breakfast club, bro, Like, what.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Were you talking about? And you've been mentioning here before
you even got in.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I've seen that. I've seen that. Shout out to John
Keith and Dark Child, Man, I was crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I want to ask you, so what what got you
into rappid? What made you say this is what I
want to do?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Was it the same high day or was it?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
What?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Similar times? Similar? Similar time in my life? For sure?
So I grew up in a musical family. Shout out
to Uncle Moe.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
He turned my grandma's garage into a studio, you know,
saying it all my cousins, my brother and they was
just in a lab every single summer, just locked in.
And I was an introverted kid just soaking it all in.
But when I turned fifteen, I just started a freestyling
every day, just going going.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
All my friends like moles Bro you trashed, Just stop, Bro,
just stop. But I kept going a bunch of friends
like Charla man ahead, Hey look yeah, trolling me.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
But then, but when I was sixteen, though, we started
a rap group in high school. Group it was a squad,
like active squad back in the day like get Active
was like the moving back then. And so did a
talent show, won the whole talent show. When I was sixteen,
went solo.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And you know it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
When I went solo that year for the talent show,
all the judges was Christian rap artists, like on a
on a low. They was all Christian artists. But I
only knew that because I was a part of the
Black student Union. And so I said, yo, if I'm
a win this talent show, let me do a creation
rap song. And that that look, he was a part
of my transformation as well, like first dabbling into that
joint and we won that joint too.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Yeah, I also think about it, because you know, you
always hear Christians and gospel artists talk about secular music.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So in my mind, I know what secular music sounds like.
I guess when I hear your joint, I'm like, this
sounds like secular music, but it's not. Like it sounds
like it, but it's not. Yeah, So I'm like, is
it to sound too? Can you are allowed to make
these slap smiles?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Am I allowed to make the slaves? If I'm allowed
to do it or not, I'm gonna do it, you
know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, But that's the intention.
Like I wanted to be able to blend in with
everything else. I want to be on the playlist with
everybody else. I don't want you to hear it and
be like, Yo, what is this this church music? Like
I wanted to feel like something you could play in
the club, so they could play it in the club,
so they could play it on the radio. Shout out
(12:22):
to all the radio sass playing our song with he
forty and the crab Man. We are number thirty one
rhythmic radio all over America right now, and I'm saying
the name of Jesus on the record, but it's slave,
it's slap, and so we're gonna keep going in this
lane for shure.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Man Head has been talking to me about you for
so long. DJ head DZ.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Yeah, Man, it's funny because I'm thinking you just another
new dope rapper from the West, and he never told
me you was a Christian artist.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
He wanted me to hear the music.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
He was like, Yo, you need to listen to this
dude mouth and he just sent me a bunch of
music and I'm just listening, like, yeah, he tough.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And then I'm like he's like, yo, you know he're
a Christian rapper. I'm like a Christian rapper. I just
thought you was spiritual. Yeah, that's not new, like you
know and everybody, so that's not new.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I just I was like, damn exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I'm just talking about my faith, man, I'm talking about
what's important to me. But you're still finish get that base,
You're still finna get them hooks.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I want to ask, like you mentioned DMX, right, so
what makes a Christian rapper Christian rapper? Was DMX a
Christian rapper because he shoots you on one record.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
At the end of that ended out.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
You know, yo yo, must let the DMX man long Live,
Long Lived. So I think I think what classified somebody
as a Christian rapper is when their whole catalog is
aimed in that direction.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
People can make faith based songs, but if their catalog
doesn't reflect that holistically, then I don't think we can
put that label on them, you know what I'm saying,
Except I don't know chance the rapper Loky really I mean,
but but that's a hot take, though I'll get flamed
of saying that. But like a lot of a lot
of his music is faith, especially like Coloring Book, like
(14:01):
he had worship songs on that absolute you know what
I'm saying, and even on this one, like he got
real Christian based songs on that joint.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
With the Life of Pablo album.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
This is a gondream to me, that.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Was that was a Christian song.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
A lot of music artists will always say or like
happened to like like you said, grow up in church
or go to church of some sort where, like that's
your experience in music young, And they bring that in
because they're using choirs and all the instruments, so it
feels like Baptist Church.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
They say a lot of the the most iconic musicians
actually come out of the church, you know, like Aretha Franklin,
Whitney Houston. I think even Beyonce grew up in church too.
So like that at a young age, it shapes you.
Emojie for sure.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Are there artists that you like are looking forward to
working with that you haven't yet that might not be
in the christ Like who's taught? Who's like go to
number one?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Ken Jack Lama.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
I can see that. I can see that very easily.
I'm surprised there's been no connection there.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I mean, I mean, listen, I'm one person away.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
DJ Head is like you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
And and even we're part of the same circles in
a lot of ways, and so I don't know, I.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Think you know, you know, OK, you got something.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
K is low key like Batman.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
He be watching from the shadows like and then's striking
like when it's time, uh, something to mine for sure,
like like a slap for the Saul.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You know what I'm saying. What he does is not
far off.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's not you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It's not far off.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Like he makes slaps with substance if you think about it,
like like even not like us, it's a slap with
substance to it. That third verse, he's schooling you, giving
you game and information, and so I think we can
make something special.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Was that a moment where you felt pressure the water
down your message for like broaday acceptance?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
No never, no never never. You know, it's funny in
a lot of ways, I felt more embraced by the
secular than I did by the church initially, Like a
lot of the shows I was doing was like in
the hoods at the clubs, still doing this kind of music,
but they would be like turn it away, like the
energy would be crazy, you know. So I just my
(16:29):
entire career up to this point, I've kept it the same,
and I'm blessed that they could resonate with the church
audience and the general market.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Was it difficult at first though? Coming out coming from
going doing the hood clubs and the hood recorders? Was
that difficult at first when people are like, I don't
know about it, but did they show a lot of
love from the beginning.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
No front of lokey front of beginning like I did
an a war ceremony in the bay. It was called
nine Quarter Awards. It was really like a gangster rap
a war ceremony, and I was the only Christian rapper
book there. I did Christian rap music all of that. Yeah,
I'll never forget. The music got cut off because of
a difficulty or whatever. And when the music cut off,
I did a freestyle.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I was like, devil want to run up on me.
It's bad. God on my side, God is my dad
at the Devil want to run upon me? It's bad.
The whole theater went stupid crazy. Somebody recorded it.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
It went viral on Facebook, and that gave me like
my Christian rap career because of me being in an
environment like that, that just embraced, you know, authenticity.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Man, when it comes to rappers from the baby what
comes first to beat? A youall voice? Because your voice sounds.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Like the beat like to beat, like like like what
was like what comes first you? When I listened to forty, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Like, yeah, they sounds just like the beat.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
Was about to energy. It is just like that too,
and that.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Yeah yea naturally I say, I say the beat, the
beat makes our voice do.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That, Like you know what I'm saying. Get you like grudging,
like it's the sneak.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
You know what I'm saying, YadA, Yeah, it just it
just comes out, you know what I'm saying, and shout
out the bay man.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's no place like home.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Man.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
When you did the method, did you tell forty what
to do?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Are you just sent the record?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Forty ain't new? It is? He true?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
It is like he knew exactly how to fulfill the assignment.
So I just said, go crazy, and he went crazy.
But nout the only the only bar that people try
to target me about in regards to what he said.
It's like, every day is communic because I drink my
own wine. You know what I'm saying, Like people, it's.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Like every day is communion. You're promoting drinking every day?
Oh my god, his own wine? What do you mean?
I'm like, he got his own wine brand, Like let him.
Let him push his wine brand. The Bible talk about wine.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
He talking about taking communion, like be happy with that.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That that'd be the biggest issue with all religion.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
It's like especially Christianity because it's like it says dow
shall not judge, but it feels like you're only judging, Like,
why can't you just let people live even figure it
out on their own.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Track eight on my album talks about that. It's called
not my job. You know, Jesus said love God and
love people. He didn't say love God and judge people.
And so that's really what I stand on, and I
think that's larger part of why we're being so embraced
by the mainstream. It's like, I'm not pointing fingers at people,
you know what I'm saying. I'm not trying to condemn people.
(19:23):
I'm welcoming to people. I want to hear your perspective
here of your heart, you know what I'm saying. And
I let people. I let people just let them live
while I'm playing in my own seeds at the same time.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
But yeah, it's what it is.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
How do you measure the impact of your art? What
it be through sales, streams, testimonies? Are young people running
up on you saying, yo, your music changed my life,
like combination of it all, I think.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I think it becomes real to me when people actually
like pop out at the shows at our festivals. I
got a festival called glow Fests in the Bay each
and every single year, that thing just we break fire
cold in that joint and it's that. But then hearing
the stories like during the meet and Greece, like, man,
your music of me, get off of meth, Your music
(20:09):
of me, get off of off the bottle. You know
what I'm saying, Like if it wasn't for your music,
I would have like off myself. Like those kind of
things really really put it into perspective, like what we're
doing has more impact than just turning somebody up.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It turns them up to look at the higher things,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Who was your influences coming out as a Christian raper,
who was somebody like I like the way he does.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
It lookray O Craig was for sure for sure, And
I mean like he was the pioneer of this whole
lane and even taking it to the mainstream like win
of four Grammys, being the first one of us from
our lane to be on Breakfast Club to have a
number one album in twenty fifteen, like what we're talking about,
so to see, like the music is incredible, for sure,
(20:51):
but even like the branding the movement, him having a label,
him putting on other artists, and it was an easy
example to follow for.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Shure, y'all going on tour together.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes, they're it's a global tour.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I think I heard, yeah, they're yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Uh, well he's actually starting the global run right now.
He going to Europe, Australia, Africa.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I'm just doing the North American run. But yeah, we're
doing thirty plus cities in America. So that thought October first.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Wow, how did y'a meet?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
How did you look? Meat?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Super crazy story?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
And so I back in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, he
was doing his Anomaly tour. He came to the Bay
Area and I was determined to meet him, but I
don't have meet and greet money, and so I snuck
by his tour bus and I waited by his tour
bus for hours to meet him. After he came out,
and when he came out, I shook his hand. I
was like, Lukray, you don't know who I am, but
(21:48):
one day I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Gonna work with you. I'm gonna travel the world with you.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I'm gonna learn from you, and I'm gonna make the
same min name pack on the world as you, but
take it to higher heights.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
He yel security.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
No, he was like, I believe with you, young brother,
and then seven years after that he reached out to
me to do music, not even knowing that was me.
I did that that day, don't you remember after I
talked Yeah, at the end of our video shoot for
our first song, I'm like, remember that kid back in
the bay who like it was me?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
He like you, that was you?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Oh my guard, and then like all his wheels started
to turning.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
But that's that's a god story, bro. You can't make
that up.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You said you you want to do something with Kendrick.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
When you heard Kendrick shout out La Craye and d
want did that feel like you was getting closer?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Like he definitely watched it, like if you know, do
you want to Craze?
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I know you heard one of my songs came down,
I know it and then me and crazed up the
Collade project.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I'm like, oh yeah, like it. It's amount of time
at a time.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Your grandmother baptized you.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
No, oh okay, I thought you had a lyrically said,
granny took me to the ocean, put me underneath the
tie crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
That was cray Craig Craze. Grandma baptized them on a
ba in San Diego.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Yeah, but he said this on the collab album Yeah,
on the Method Got You.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That was Lacrey, nobody else like to read my own. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Now, do you see yourself as more of a pastor
with a beat or an artist who just happens to preach?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That was my question.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I don't consider myself a pastor with a beat. A
pastor is a heavy title. A pastor or somebody like
you shepherd a flock like you're there, like like checking
in on people and walking them through, you know, life,
which I do. I guess I pastor a few people
on my team, right, but pastoring in clonation, that's that's
(23:51):
a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's a lot to do.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
So I consider myself a man of God, uh with
with slapping beats, you know what I'm saying, telling my
story and reaching the word.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
So it's crazy because I consider I don't consider you're
a pastor. But I feel like when artists make music
that is in the gospel realm, you are. You have
followers the same way a pastor would. It's just a
different type of church.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah for sure. For so, you know, it's crazy.
Before this, I was actually a youth pastor in a
Bay Area and so I really really started to get
into like this kind of music when I was in
a church, just trying to turn the youth up, you
know what I mean. But now I just do it
just for the rest.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Of the world.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
But I'm doing the same thing I was doing before,
it on a larger scale. So in a way, you're
definitely correct.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So do you call other hip hop secular music? No? Okay,
what do you call it?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I mean when I'm talking to like my Christian audience,
I do, because that's what they understand. But typically I
say mainstream or general market artists. I don't want to
like alien aid and put that title on them, like
cause secular means without God, and a lot of these
artists aren't without God. They have them, they just have
a different art form expression.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
So how do you draw from mainstream hip hop and
culture while still turning it into something that's like holy
and redemptive? M M.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I mean I'm within it, you know what I'm saying.
I'm within the mainstream culture now and I'm also within
the church.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And so when I'm making.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Music, you get the best of both worlds without me,
without me compromising either, you know what I'm saying, Like
when you hear my music, it's on that level that
you're here on the radio, and it's also something that
the church could appreciate and a slap like I'm not
breaking the I guess the rules of the church or
disrespecting the Bible. I'm honoring the Bible and making stuff
(25:39):
good enough to hear.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
On a global level, you feel pressure at all, you
know because a lot of people I'm sure follow you,
listen to you because they feel like your story is
closer to theirs, right, they came from a certain place,
they did a certain thing, and you know, people make mistakes.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
But then when people.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Look at the church sometimes they feel like a pastor
acts like they're holier than that and what they should do.
And then you know when they pull a curtain back,
it's like this passage is cheating on this one or
this passages did this this pass it of that. So
does that give you any way of like any pressure
with what you do in life outside of the music, personal,
the way you walk.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Et cetera.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I mean, with with the platform comes pressure for sure,
And I definitely don't want to be the next person
to temper somebody's faith by a certain mistake that I
could fall into. But I mean, you know, we all
have temptations, and I got the same mound tentations as
any anybody else with a platform or anybody else period.
(26:36):
But what keeps me, what keeps me grounded with the
right perspective, is having the right ones around me with safeguards.
Like my tour manager has my hotel key, all my
I remember. My team has the passwords of my phone,
Like my team has my social media loginst like they
know what's happening, they know what's up, because I don't
want to fall into that. So there is pressure, but
(26:57):
I think it's healthy pressure.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
The first Christian act to be booked there rolling.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Out for show for show, So let me let me,
let me give the context to it. So there was
a Christian rap set in Miami before my set, but
but that set was more like Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
DJ.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I don't know why I'm drawing a blank. He's the
fifth of these everyone allowed shout out to you bro.
He books like eight Christian rappers to come out during
his set. So that happened, but as official, like I'm
going rolling, I'm going to book a Christian artist for
a full set. Yes, in Los Angeles, California in March.
That thing went crazy?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Is the Dji Venom five venoms?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, shout out to five venoms?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Man, what role do you think Christian rap? It's my
last lues rolled.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
I think Christian rap plays and bringing I guess the
church to the streets.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Are are you trying to bring the streets to the church?
Like what yo? I don't want to say all the
christ trap particular.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, by I think my music takes
the church to the block with the intention of bringing
the block to the church.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, for sure. Like like when you hear.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
My music, man, I'll be I'll be driving around through
La through the Bay, I'll be hearing my stuff through
every neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Bro like slapping in the truck God then stocking Richmond.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Oh, like it's reaching them, but with the intention for
them to get closer to God.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You know what I'm saying. So that's what it is
for us.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Yeah, I mean it's almost impossible for you to be
judgment to it because because of.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
How you got brought to God. Yeah, smoking that weed,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
For sure, Like I get it, like I understand people struggles,
people's stories like I lived it, and a lot of
my family is still living it.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'm still in it in a lot of ways.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
And so they love God and love people, not just people.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
We appreciate you for joining us. What you want to
play off the album The method Man?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
All right, let's play The method Man featuring E forty
and A cray Man from the West to the World.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Let's get it.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
And the album is out today. The album is out right.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Now, right now. The album VA do.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It's Miles Mintic. What does that mean anyway?
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Yeah, via the rosa, it translates to the pathway or
the sorrowful road. It's literally the road that Jesus walked
on when he's carrying his cross. I am ethnically ambiguous,
you know what I'm saying. Shout out to my Messicans.
But I'm not mesking. I'm half black, half white.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
You don't say Haesus Christ just because.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Hazeus Crystal, I do.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I do?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah, yeah, we got we got Hazu's Cristalle hats and
all of that popping off.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
But yeah, dope, I just realize that's Jesus testimony.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But you see that Jesus on the cross.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Look, look, give me your mail in the address.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
IM gonna send you all pack somewhere people christ Like
Collection dot com and we gotta pop.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Up today in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Let's get it all right, Miles Midtic, It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, ye hold.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Up every day I wake, click your ass up the
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
You'll finish for y'all. Done,
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