INTERVIEW: N3on Talks Kai Cenat, Internet Beef; DDG's Brother DuB, Streaming Career, Adin Ross, Personal Growth

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club Morning.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Everybody is the j n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club law La Rosa is here
as well. We got a special guest in the building,
content creative streamer, Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello, Hello morning.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
How you guys doing.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
How are you young man?

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Doing great? I mean, you know, I've never done anything
productive this early in the morning. This is this is
new to me.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh, you don't get up this early.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
No, never, My stream is usually at like two. There's
a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
Holy, It's like, it's interesting twenty years.

Speaker 6 (00:31):
Ago early now, before we go any further with this conversation,
somebody brought this to my attention a little while ago,
like about a couple of hours ago.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
What's the beef with you and my guy? Because you know,
I'm team Kai, I'm.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Tim Ka shout. You're part of the mafia. Yes, you're
a sub on Twitch.

Speaker 7 (00:46):
You don't even know what that means.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
She would be.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
A few a few years ago, me and k I
had a little back and forth. This is like when
I was like very secluded in my house and I
was just very like, you know, I just like talk
ship to everyone. So me and him had like a
really really big back and forth. But you know over
what though, over just like just me, like just being
like me at the time, like just saying dumb ship
talking controlling exactly, and you know, obviously that didn't really

(01:14):
get me anywhere. So it was just the thing. It
wasn't just him, it was everyone, Like, there's a lot
of people. I just like, I just went out and
I just said crazy ship because that's what I thought
it was funny at the time, and I was just
like an immature little kid. I didn't really understand anything.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
At the time.

Speaker 7 (01:27):
People watching, Yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
That always like being toxic and like having the shock
factor always works. But like, is that is that what you're.

Speaker 7 (01:35):
Also put in the back of the head too?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
You know, it's crazy. I've never been punching the head.

Speaker 8 (01:40):
Walk around with.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Back then.

Speaker 8 (01:45):
Yeah, videos in New York you heavy security up.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Oh yeah, yeah for sure, because you know, I'd rather
just be safe than sorry. This world's very fun.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
You know they can see the guy behind you, right,
that's great, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
I can't curse on hearing, yes you can, I can't.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Okay, Okay, So specifically what happened with you want kyd?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
What was it?

Speaker 4 (02:07):
So he said like something little and I think it
like at the time, it pissed me off. And then
well I don't really remember the exact details. Is years ago.
I got short term memory loss. But and then I
said something back. I'm not gonna repeat it, you know,
I don't want to repeat it because it was it
was messed up, and I would never say anything like
that again.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know what he said?

Speaker 8 (02:28):
Yeah, say what he said.

Speaker 9 (02:29):
You said that you would fuck his mom and then
she's a fat Harriet Tubman bitch.

Speaker 7 (02:33):
Yeah, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
And not only did you disrespect Cakyle's mother, you disrespected
Harriet Tubman.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, because you know, like I said, at the time,
it wasn't really a thing where I like I just
did whatever, like what came to mind. Like I was
just like the shock factor, like I wasn't thinking obviously,
now that I'm in the real world, now I'm going
out and experiencing stuff that's not something okay to say
at all. At the time, I don't know this was
does anyone have that? How old is that?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
You're twenty now?

Speaker 7 (02:57):
So this is yeah, this was before in COVID.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
I think it was after cod I think after I
think after it wasn't.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Really like that long, long long.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well, I feel like I feel like I've speed on life.
Its past like two years. I feel like I've lived
like five to ten years, like I've ran through so
much because before then, when I was at home, I
was just so like, I was so secluded and I
just didn't know much about anything at all. I was
just like, go to Schinus.

Speaker 7 (03:21):
You know about Harriet Tubman.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, I mean I got I got the internet. I
got the Internet.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Okay, Well did you feel that comfortable?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Because I never experienced a real life situation. I've never
gone and said like until that time, I never said
anything anything in anyone's face, Like I barely even went
to school. So it was just a thing where I
was just like in my basement in a secluded area
with the desktop set up there, just thinking I could
say whatever. So without understanding the meaning of any.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
Of it's mom and using like Harriet Tubman as a slur.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Well, it's not the right thing to do, obviously, So.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
You would have the person online that a lot of
people on social media hate, right, because you just troll
people all day and they wish to catch you in person.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
Yeah, so when did that change for you? You know?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
I feel like like in my streaming career, I've had
a lot of moments where it's like it's just like mine,
like I changed my mind, Like especially like when I
went to jail in Dubai for something streaming, Like I
like it was a real life situation. I was like, damn, like,
like this stuff have consequences, like the stuff I do.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
You to jail for people that don't know in Dubai,
you know.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
People that I had, like like heated sheets and ship
It was it was not like that at all. It
was really like it was cool. It was a good experience,
and I wouldn't like change that for anything, but it
was it was it was even bad, Like it wasn't
that bad. I was just streaming in an area where
like I wasn't really allowed to stream, but they gave me.
But they gave me permission. So someone gave me permission
they wen't supposed to. And then there was a whole
thing at the airport. I got arrested, They put me

(04:38):
to transport vehicle.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Got set up.

Speaker 9 (04:40):
Basically, sh I told you that you could and you
couldn't you in jail for two and a half days,
got you?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Right?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
So let's let's Have you publicly apologized the car?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Like probably four times? And I also DMed him too.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Have you apologized toks mother? Yes? Have you publicly apologized
to Harriet tell me in her family?

Speaker 4 (04:59):
No, but I probably should, that's my aunt.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
No no, no, no, no, I just I don't.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I don't know to say that, but I just want
to say disrespecting your Yes, I'm so sorry for that.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
Have you spoke the consistent Kai's sister.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
No? No, no, I haven't. And if I did see
face to face, it would be the same thing. It
would be a you know, a girl man apology, like
you know for because it's crazy because I've meet all
these people who have like talked ship about and all
this stuff, and then when I see them in person,
it's just like it's like I apologize. Like it's not
like a thing where I try to act hard and
be like I'm standing on it doubling down. Like it's
a thing where I'm like, you know, I I apologize
and I man up, and like people make fun of
me in my chat too, and they're like, you're on

(05:39):
an apology to warn whatever, But like I want to
make my wrongs right.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
So accountability is important. Is that why Kai's man ring
I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Funk you up?

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Well, I don't think he wants to box me.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
And I saw I saw what was it was? That
was that screaming university when when y'all ran into each other.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
No, I didn't get it. I didn't get invited to
stream prom Yeah, I was the problem first ever prom actually,
and Ray.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Was like, nah, you gotta apologize the Kai.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, And then in that clip, I did exactly what.
I apologize because I wanted to, not because like he
pressed me, and I'm like no, like I'm getting bitch whatever.
Like it's because I genuinely wanted to. And I did
it again like I you know, like I did before.
But he said, you wanted to box me for a
million dollars.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I saw that on Impulsive Can you back?

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Can I box?

Speaker 7 (06:19):
Of course?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Look at me?

Speaker 8 (06:20):
Oh yeah we did.

Speaker 7 (06:21):
I'm looking.

Speaker 9 (06:22):
That's why I asked, can you okay? So is that
gonna go down? We won't see that fight?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Well, you know, I actually could get an offer for
more than that. I just like The thing about boxing
is you have to be like locked in for months,
so like I like my craft is streaming. I love this,
Like I wouldn't give it up for the world, So
like you have to like give it up for some
time and lock in like early mornings like training camps and.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
What's that on the screen?

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, it's poring.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
After a while, it's like, you know, who wants to
see like an Indian guy just punched the fucking thing
all day, Like it gets a little boring.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
For your Indian, Pindian, Indian.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Pakistani and Indian. Yeah, I'm mixed breeding.

Speaker 9 (06:53):
So look did your what did your parents have to
say about that whole exchange? Like where are they supporting you?
Rooting for you when you came out the gate troll?

Speaker 4 (07:02):
And oh no, no, no, no, for sure not because it
started affect our personal life, like their personal life too,
Like even my sister like her friends like they're like,
your brother's a weirdo. Like he's saying all like it
was bad because like, you know, the bad thing about
me is like everything was on the internet from such
a young age, so it was like everything that I've done,
everyone's seeing it. Like my parents are really religious about
the mosque. The people are talking about it, and even

(07:22):
at that time, I didn't realize, Like I just kept
going because I didn't realize what I was doing, and
it like I don't know what clicked in my head,
but it clicked. And then like I just like fully
just like changed everything. But my mom was like yeah,
at first she was like no, like I don't want
you streaming under my roof, like this can't happen. And
I just kept doing it because I was an idiot.
They think, no, they didn't know my parents. They loved
me so much, they would never kick me out, but

(07:43):
they's just like no one like thought I could do
this as a job, and like just the things I
was doing was just so like vulgar and just like
too far to where like it was it wasn't respectable
in our communities.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
How did you feel? Like?

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Felt not good?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Not good?

Speaker 4 (07:56):
That's why you know, I try to be a lot
more religious now, try to like you know, even tell
the chat, know the people about religion, like you know,
go towards God, seek God and stuff. And then yeah, yeah,
that bad, bad point in my life.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I think he should apologize. This is the breakfast club.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
I think he should have used this big platform to
apologize the Kai once again and his mom and just
you know, of course I don't know if that'll put
it to rest, but yeah, I mean I think it
already is put to rest.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
And I think you know, he understands, and like I've
already apologized like five different times, so like it's and
and you know, I repeatedly say it because I genuinely
mean it. And like I said, if he was like
if you were him right now, I would just I
would say the same thing. Yeah, well you're not him.
I want when I when I apologize, I want to
actually like man a man like you can only say

(08:40):
so many times do a camera for it to be
like it's just not like you want.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
To you want to be genuine a one on one thing.

Speaker 9 (08:46):
Have you invited him to to have a meet up
with you so that can happen.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
It's just it's just a thing where if like he
run into him, it's just gonna like yeah, because I
did say the thing is I did say like really
crazy things and like a lot of people, like it's
not just him, Like there's so many people I've said
a lot of stuff. You know, a lot of people
learn to forgive me. Like there was a situation I
had with you. Guys are Dub and Dub Ddg's brother. Yeah,
and then so like I know dd G brother, but

(09:10):
there's something I said too. And then you know, when
I he was really mad at me, he was gonna,
he wanted to press me, he wanted to literally punch me.
But when I saw him face to face apologize and
it was that.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Now we heard the audio of you this morning. I
don't know if it was truth or not, because my
son says, sometimes you lie just to create things. The
audio was talking about I guess one of the.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Worst group of people.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
I wanted to ask you, what is your least favorite race?

Speaker 4 (09:35):
I don't know, to be honest, I don't have one.

Speaker 9 (09:37):
Okay, So why was that a question that you decided
to ask somebody?

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Somebody assistant or something. Was it assistant that worked for
his dad?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Was he fired?

Speaker 9 (09:46):
He said, his dad fired one of his black employees
because she was lazy, and then she came back after
she was I remember the story.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
I remember that.

Speaker 7 (09:56):
Is that a true story?

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I said, yeah, that's it is. So my dad's deep
into like the phone business he was back then and
then he got we got robbed so many times and
then we just you know, he just fully stopped the business.
But yeah, that was a situe. That was the actually
real situation.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
You were only robbed by black people? No okay, mm hmm.
So you don't have a least favorite race?

Speaker 10 (10:18):
No okay, you know they're asking you that like that
because the video gave the black people know.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
The video I could play, I got it. He had asked.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
It was somebody that he was streaming with and he
was like, what's your least favorite race? And the guy
was like, I don't have one.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Worst experience with who's that stimming?

Speaker 8 (10:36):
This is a clip. I don't know who knows streaming.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Story, but what's your story?

Speaker 8 (10:42):
That was the first one, and then.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Another I don't and another black guy. My dad fired her.
She's second, Oh god, that's brutal.

Speaker 11 (10:54):
And then she came.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Cell phone. You're just like, just make assumptions, Batrols.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
So you said a black fire.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
You said, you said my dad, you said a black guy,
and you said my dad fired her.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
It was a black one.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Miss jended.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
He was just he was and that one thing I
know it was two people or three.

Speaker 10 (11:22):
Because you said it was the black person that was
the first one. Then it was the second one, the
person that worked for your dad. That was a woman.
She was lazy, and then her boyfriend came and robbed
the jewelry store or something that your your dad owns
a jelry store.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Black people, no, no, no selfon store, self store.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, okay, black people are your least favorite race?

Speaker 7 (11:39):
Were they ever?

Speaker 4 (11:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
I love everyone. I'm all about the people I owe
you in that video eighteen eighteen, probably damn two years ago.
I don't think y'a don't understand. Like this last two
years it's been like like it feels like so much longer.
Like before then I had I didn't like the deal
with anything. I didn't go through anything at all. But
this last two years like it just like feels.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Like your life was nice, but you're not going to
have to go through ship.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I'm blessed. I'm blessed. You know, my my parents they
came here with nothing, that worked really hard, and they
gave me like whatever I wanted in life. I'm not
like I'm not gonna like lie and say, like, you know,
I had like a tough upbringing or anything. You know,
my parents oh.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, we know that. We know that, we could tell.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Are your parents racist?

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Are your parents racist? No?

Speaker 6 (12:27):
I'm just trying to figure out, like where is like
using Harriet Tubman as a slur and you know the
things you said on that video.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I'm just wondering, like, you know what, what was your perception?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
So you got you guys don't understand. Like so first off, trolling.
Trolling is not okay, right, but they're like a lot
of people have, like like back then, like as even
if it's as a joke, it's not it's not good
to do. But streamer world, YouTube world, whatever it is
like people make jokes like that. But like back then before,
like about one race of people, No, no, no, you
got to see my no, no, man, you got to

(12:57):
see my clips, my clips, same example. So I'm not
gonna repeat it, but I'm not gonna go there's no
there's not like, there's no there's no singling out, there's
none of that. I was just insanely toxic. I make
jokes about I made jokes about Indians everyone, like any
race you cane, it's not like singling out that. Yeah,
it's well, I shouldn't do it in general, but I'm

(13:17):
just saying like that was what I like. That was
my thing, Like I try to have that shot factor
and and I was being an idiot at home.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
But it wasn't put hands on you, pull up to
your crib, but nothing like that.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
I got jumped on stream but they didn't touch me,
but it was jump. I was in a sprinter outside
of my house. They found out my location through a
painting on uh and they were Google reverse searched it.
They found my house. There's six guys with masks and
they didn't see me in the sprinter. They saw my
ex manager at the time, and they just were They
just jumped them and they just stomped his face.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
They attempted to jump you, but they got your manager.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, they didn't. They didn't see me in the sprinter.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
You didn't say he I mean, we wouldn't be talking
to him right now.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, yeh LA is a dangerous place.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
Forget who was what it was about.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
I still don't know who did it. Toasted it on
your YouTube channel, I still have no idea. Yeah, no,
we were live.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
We were live, and I don't want.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
That YouTube channel. So it's run by live editor. So
everything I just put everything for my stream gets automatically
posted on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Goodublicity.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
No, and I used to lie to myself and say
that after after a situation from from from way back then.
But it's definitely not. I used to like just try
to like make myself believe it was. But yeah, definitely no.

Speaker 9 (14:23):
I asked my son about you. Obviously he watches UH
streamers and he knew who you were. And I asked
him because I didn't know anything you know about you,
and he said, well, he faked his death a couple
of times. And I immediately felt sorry for you. Before
doing all this research and seeing that you just was
a control that I thought that you were having maybe

(14:45):
identity issues or anything, you know, something that would make
you fake your death at some point, because you know,
you you know, real people actually like go through these
things of course, where they feel suicidal, they want to
take their lives, they feel like they're not enough, you know,
and at very young ages. So I'm like, damn, maybe
he was struggling with some personality disorders or just trying

(15:06):
to fit in or whatever, and you doing the shit
for what just clout or.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
What like at the time, Yes, but this is something
that was like well, I cannot even pull up the date, like,
but you did tis right, So what were the So no,
there was I did it. I did it when I
was like fifteen, and obviously, and you know, people say, like,
you know I, you know, I go by the model.
I don't live with the regrat But that's one of
the regrets I do have because at the time, yes,
I was looking for clout and I didn't realize what
I was doing. And I was a kid. First off,

(15:31):
keep in mind I was a kid.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Keep in mind, kids kill themselves and.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I understand that one hundred percent. And that's why I
use my platform to entertain people and advocate for people
to you know, just certain things. But yeah, I didn't
That's what That's definitely a regret I have. Did anybody
care They did? They did, and then but it just
it just didn't like obviously, and in the time too,
I'm like, oh my god, it's going crazy, but there's
no there was no real plan. That just shows how

(15:56):
dumb of a kid I was. If you die, you
can't come back right like I was. Obviously, I was
never gonna quit, you Like, nothing was clicking right in
my head.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I was just doing how much do you think you
would say roughly on YouTube when streaming in totality?

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Oh, like right now? Of course, you know, I think
I think I'm doing a little good for myself. I
have a long way to go.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
So you make money, that's that.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
That's make money million less more.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Some of y'all be lying.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Man, I would never lie about my Okay, he been
doing this shit for a while.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Hey man, how much?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
How much you think you make a move this ballpark?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
I will just say some of these deals get crazy,
but it's not like like on Twitter, like they say
like thirty mil, fifty MILLI year, Like, it's none of that,
but it's it's still it's still great.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Okay. So so you said deal.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
So a lot of that money that people make are
through sponsorships.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
And yes, okay, that's what a real money comes in at.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
Yeah, so so forget this. If it was no sponsorships,
know nothing, then you was just streaming.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
How much do those people make? Just the people that's
just screaming.

Speaker 7 (16:51):
Average doesn't have to be just an average so people
can understand what it is.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Like at my viewership. Yeah, if I didn't have any
deals or anything, I may be like a few hundre okay,
but the deals are like the majority, so it's still good,
but like without the sponsorships. And you know, it took
me a while to even get deals and stuff because
I was so like hated you know, rightfully self, but
I also hated and stuff. But you know, now I'm
slowly working to it to a different path.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
So so brand safety was a thing they didn't want
to be a part of.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Oh no, no, no one wanted to be a part of
anything I did at all.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
So did they start wanting to be a part of
I think like probably.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
These past few like these past few months, like maybe
like the past like six months, it's been. It's been
a lot different.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
So so what are you getting paid for right now?
Is hood you to drink? What?

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Oh no, none of this? Yeah ship sponsor me Celsius
Spider shout to talk, but yeah, none of this.

Speaker 8 (17:37):
That's crazy with the fake and death. It was a
brain tumor you were talking about.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah, you know, it's crazy. At the time, I didn't
even didn't even know what a brain tumor really was.

Speaker 8 (17:44):
No, what's crazy is my mom's a stage for a
bring cancer survivor.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 8 (17:47):
I went through that in real life.

Speaker 10 (17:48):
It's amazing shot I've been seeing here like I don't
even think you understood that is so I looked at
like what did you say you died? What was the
and then I saw that at my heart drop, I'm like, man,
I experienced that in real life.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
I'm so sorry to deal with that. She's okay, and
I'm glad she's okay.

Speaker 10 (18:02):
Sorry, but that's crazy. I'm so happy you've arrived here.
But at the moment, because it was heavily criticized at
the moment, you didn't in that moment, you didn't realize like, okay,
this is I should get away from the trolling, Like
what was the last draw? I'm done with the crazy trolling?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
You know, I don't, Like I said before, I don't
remember what clicked in my head, but something definitely clicked
in my head to realize that it's not like the
path I want to go on.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Is it the fact that you have what crones disease yourself?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Well no, what has a thing for you? Of course
I didn't.

Speaker 7 (18:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
I definitely do.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I definitely clothing life.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
That's why I didn't really go to school because I
was in and out the hospital.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
True story.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Actually this is real, but yeah, I had like really
really I still do, like crones as never as ever healed,
but I was just hospitalized. I couldn't go to school.
That's why I like that was a reason. Who I
was very sheltered. Like I literally used a fake robot.
Like a robot walked through the school. It was like
a new thing that it in the school, and the
robot like went to classes for me. So for like huh, yeah,

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it was it was crazy. And then to graduate, I
didn't go to school the last two years. To graduate,
the school like they helped me out and I just
had to like do like two projects or like one
project for each class and they let me graduate.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
What does chromes do to you?

Speaker 4 (19:17):
It's just like it's like really heavy inflammation. So like
they were gonna take my cold and I was gonna
have to like have a bag and ship through the bag.
But we went We got like a bunch of multiple
like different opinions and stuff, and then I went on
this new medication that saved me.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Really yeah I got the shipped out. Yeah let me
familiar bro.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Listen, But I mean I do want to say I'm
glad that you learned early what so many people, including myself,
learn late.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
You know what I mean, because there is no value
in shock and at all.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
If you didn't make the pivot, you probably was gonna
end up getting points in the face or even worse nowadays,
you know, And and like you said, you know you
wouldn't have the career that you have now because now
you're getting brand deals and stuff like that. So you know,
I'm never gonna to judge a young person for what
they did when they.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
When they were younger. You know, appreciate you. I don't
appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Because nobody else might forgive you. But I'm just I'm
really doing this for myself. Damn, I'm not gonna be like.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
That.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
He's really been doing the same.

Speaker 8 (20:28):
He smelled Jlo's chair?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Did you stop?

Speaker 8 (20:30):
Sorry?

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Why smelled Girlock's chair?

Speaker 7 (20:32):
You guys know that is let me look that up.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
To be a guy the picture Girlock the destroyer, this
chance you took my move?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
You saw that?

Speaker 7 (20:44):
Hold up?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Hold up?

Speaker 7 (20:46):
Hold up?

Speaker 5 (20:48):
What is happening?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
You're laughing at that when we.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Don't know what is like?

Speaker 7 (20:51):
Like, who's laughing at that? You know that girl is
the one.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
All right, so you can say that, but I'm getting.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Don't let me.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
See what go like as a woman.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
I'm so confused.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yeah, she's she's a beautiful woman.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
You know, I'm being serious.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
You don't have nothing, no.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
Situation.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
She just a bigger, yeah, plus size model.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
You smelled the seat?

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yeah, okay, shout he honestly uncented.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
How did you end up streaming with Kanye? How did
it happen?

Speaker 4 (21:33):
So Dave blunts. He he was in Kanye's ear telling
him like, Yo, you got to do the stream with
this with this kid whatever. Kanye tweeted me a few
times or yay sorry, Yay tweeted me a few times,
and then it just never happened. Then Sneako another streamer,
he was going to Spain to do the stream, and
then they're like, oh, you can bring someone else whatever,
and then he hit me up and it just all

(21:53):
aligned perfectly. I was there for like five days before
I actually got the stream, so we like it was
like eight am wake ups. He was just talking on
and on and he was just like he's just a
cool guy, like just like seeing the way he lives
life and that dude is so talented and so like,
it's the smartest guy I've ever been around. He's his
mind's always racing, he's always doing new ship, new projects.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yea. Oh so now you just pissed off all the
Jewish community.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Oh no, no, no, I love the I love Jewish people.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
You just came on here to just ship on everybody.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
No, no, no, I love.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I mean, wow, I got so many Jewish.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Friends trying to get me caught up.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Brother at the end is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
That was crazy.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
What's the crazy situation?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I seen you in Harlem with Jim Jones. What's the
craziest situation, Dubai? What was the crazy situation you've been
in that you didn't think he was gonna make it out?

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Besides, I've been in a lot of situations. Uh, there's
an ideas thing, same thing, trolling.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
And I saw that he chased you, he chased me.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
And they were like really like his security guards fisted up,
ready to fight, Like they're running at me full speed.
These are three hundred pounds tanks running at me, and
I ran onto ongoing traffic. Luckily I didn't get hit.
Then there was a parking garage and there was two
There was upstairs in the downstairs. I ran upstairs, and
they thought I ran downstairs and the upstairs door was locked.
So if they had ran upstairs, I would have been

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I'm so weak I probably would have died if they
punched me hard. I'm not even kidding. I said some
dumb shot I said. I said, like, when you get
knocked out, are you going to retire? But then me
and Nate got on the phone cleared it.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
Fully, that's a regular question.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
It's some troll ship like you can't just say that
to a grown man from you.

Speaker 8 (23:24):
I feel like Healy took it. I think he probably
took it like that.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
He said what I said it before the fight, that's still.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Not when you get knocked tire, you think that's what happened.

Speaker 8 (23:41):
I know, I'm really I got the article right here.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I know what did you say exactly?

Speaker 10 (23:44):
He said that when when you get when you do
get knocked out, are you going to retire? But it's
giving when you do get it's giving when like playing
with my ability, like you don't even think I'm gonna
make it through this fight.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I still don't think that.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I think it's just because you was good, brother, and
where's your security?

Speaker 7 (24:00):
All the time.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
No, he was, yeah, I've been yeah, you know I've
been through. I've been through a lot of security guards
with the best shouts.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Okay, okay, And why have you been through so many?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Why did you sign up for this though?

Speaker 8 (24:16):
I've been looking at you out.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
I'm a very harmless.

Speaker 9 (24:20):
Guy, man, But look, why have you been through so
many security?

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Guy?

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Like?

Speaker 5 (24:23):
What what is the conversation?

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Like?

Speaker 7 (24:24):
You can't work for you no more?

Speaker 4 (24:25):
It's too much.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
I'm taking hits on the chip like what is this?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
No, Don's taking a hip fory So why why do.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
You have been through so many?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Well, no one quits. No security guards ever quit on me.

Speaker 9 (24:35):
But oh you fire them. Yeah, it's just like black
and lazy.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
Of course not of course not.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Never mind, they're not they're not.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
You know, this is just hilarious.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
Now I want to get to I want to now.
I want to know what got you in the stream?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
How did you why?

Speaker 4 (24:55):
He just gave up on the questions gave if. I
I was like, you know, we gotta run this back
at four p m full energy, and I could just
you know, be very happy and energetic. I've told I've
never done anything like like like perductive at nine am.
So this is like, this is interesting to me.

Speaker 10 (25:13):
You said, yeah, y'all they had a little issued and
y'all got back.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, that's my brother.

Speaker 8 (25:20):
What was the issue?

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Which so you know, there was this moment when I
was everything hit me so quick, Like everything hit me
so quick in La.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
You know.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Two weeks before I was sitting in my in my parents'
basement gaming every day like a loser. Two weeks later,
I'm in La in the hills with the fucking lamb
boau and like rented cars like crazy houses, and everything
was just a flash, like I don't remember anything. I
was blacked out, Like I was genuinely blacked out.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
That's what they say a party that happens a lot.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Have you ever been a Diddy party?

Speaker 5 (25:48):
I'm only yeah, would you go though? If he got out?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
And I'm not a party, I'm just have a guy
to sit in the corner of a club and just
bought my head, So I don't like, I don't like party.

Speaker 11 (25:56):
Trump He was yet at him as that questions, but
what you do?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah exactly, Yeah, So me and him, like, you know,
that was the guy that really put me on. You know,
I I really owe a lot to what's funny man? Okay,
all right, but you know that's the guy that really
that really put me on to help me because he
saw like the vision of me and he knew, like
he told me like even offstream, like every day like bro,
I'm gonna help you do this and do this and
you're gonna do this, and it's exactly what happened. Like
he gave me the platform to be able to even

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ship be here today.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Didn't see yourself?

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, I mean I just have low confidence, like even myself,
like I just feel like a fucking like random. But
he just saw the potential I guess, like entertainment value
and like everything like he's he always knew I had
it in me and I never did. Like he literally
he booked my flight to Miami and forced me to
leave my house and tried doing like I r l
content Like he literally he got my info, my name
and booked it and like forced me to come. I
didn't want to go. I just want to stay at home.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
So something about your confidence?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
What?

Speaker 5 (26:57):
What?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
What?

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Why are you not confident?

Speaker 4 (26:59):
What is I mean? I just feel like I don't know,
I feel like I feel like I mean, I think
that they we're all normal people. We're all regular people,
like nothing, we all die one day, like we're not
different than anyone else. But like as a streamer, as
a person like I don't feel like a top dog,
you know, I don't feel like one of the biggest.

Speaker 10 (27:14):
Wait, let's get into the chat because Aiden Ross there's
a comment pending here. He just commented and said, Neon,
I promise you. Theyre trying to belittle you and disrespect you.
You shipping on all of them. They are weird as fuck.
Fuck them us in here. The chat is live in
the breakfast anyway, this is not Aiden interview.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
So we're all friends, Okay, you know, I think in.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
The chat, I'm in the chat with the feet.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
I think, you know, as you know, we should all
come together and I'll just saying.

Speaker 7 (27:46):
All that cool by a ship.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Aiden, Come on, that's my guy.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
I don't give a fu.

Speaker 9 (27:52):
Listen, Harry and talking in my aunt.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
You're comparing.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
You're comparing something now to them.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I'm not gonna lie. Your chair is wild monkey watermelon.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I'm literally looking and I don't see any of that.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
They race baiting to fuck the shorthand monkey. They race baiting,
walk out me on his phone.

Speaker 8 (28:17):
He can't see nothing. It's moving so fast.

Speaker 9 (28:19):
And I guarantee any of your check, any of the
motherfuckers was here, they wouldn't say it at all. That's
another thing about you know, streaming and just being behind.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Understand this isn't this is this is the internet. This
is not just my chat my community, right, this is
the internet. The Internet just like me back then would
say whatever they want.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
Yeah, this isn't.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
This isn't like a representation to me obviously.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
But it's funny though, because the reality is, I notice
is a bunch of kids in here who don't know
no better.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
But if we were really as we wouldn't have had
you up here.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
And as soon as I heard about the cars, and
I think we'd have told you get the fuck on,
I mean, you know, disrespecting somebody's mom and then saying
that ship about Harriet Tubman.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
If we were really being asshole and really trying to
be little.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
I understand that. I just feel like, at the end
of the day, you can't hold something against someone if
they're changing and becoming a better person and.

Speaker 9 (29:04):
Understanding you know you're changing, and how well you know
you don't none to really believe you when you build
your whole I understand that on being a liar, of course,
and no one has to believe at the end of
the day.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
If don't wan to believe me, you don't have to
believe you. But if you actually sit down and watch
my streams and understand the growth, then you see And
if you don't, it's it's like, at the end of
the day, I don't like I don't I'm not here
to prove anything to people. I can do the best
I can. People could judge me. I don't care, and
if no one wants to.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
Twenty one is not who I am, not the same
with you. I respect already told you.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
But there's no there's no there's no reason. There's no
reason for coming from someone for something that they apologize
for five times and it was not the person who
I am now and it was years ago, so like
just coming for the same thing just doesn't bring it.
Bring it up like six times why he cheated on
his wife.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Let's talk past it. We've already talked about that. He
was just.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
About the interviews and about what time abou this is.
I'm glad they brought that up.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Because what you're doing right now, Leon is holding yourself
accountable and not running from who you were, because who
you were have gotten to you to where you are now.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
So you are a.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
Testament to these young people who need to know, who
need to learn early with what people like us learned late.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
So whatever, like Donald Trump, were you gonna they said
you were gonna do something? Donald Trump, one of the
UFC advents.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
In another situation, I was on stream at a gun
range and I was like, when I see Donald Trump,
I'm gonna press him whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
That was crazy, Yeah, used to fuck me.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I used to like what you went too fast?

Speaker 8 (30:47):
Even faster?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
You can't see nothing, Donald Trump?

Speaker 7 (30:51):
So what happened?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
How can I leave it?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I'm say, who fucked me?

Speaker 7 (30:55):
That's what you heard about? So when you did that
would happened?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
No, they didn't. It was just like I mean, it didn't.
It didn't go too deep. It was just a thing
where like obviously Danie White and them and they were pissed.
And then off stream, I you know, I walked up
to like a man and I was like, you know,
same shit, like man and man apology shouldn't have said that.
He said, it takes a real man to come and
do that. I really appreciate you and accept your apology
and everything's good now.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
So and uh Leangelo Ball he actually uh dropped tweaker
on your stream. Yeah, and then y'all had like some issues.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
No, I no issues at all. It's a Clippers, you know,
the Clippers make everything out of context. I actually talked
to Jello like a week ago, you know, me and him,
you know, a very cool guy. It's just like he
came on stream for like thirty minutes the next time
we met, and then everyone you know, took it out
of context, as if it's like he's trying to like
have an ego or be weird or anything. But in reality,
like that's what the stream is supposed to be, supposed
to be, like a quick thing, quick reunion and that's it.
But yeah, I fuck with Jello heavy talk.

Speaker 10 (31:49):
About the Clippers, because when you say the Clippers, you're
not talking about the team. It's yeah, clip up content.

Speaker 7 (31:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
So those are the people that got up money there,
oh yeah for sure. Yeah, so those are people that
actually made the song what it is today. I paid
out like just for that song. It's if I paid
out one hundred k just to make that song. Popping
and it was like one of my biggest clippers, his
name is King, he posted it and and and he
made it go everywhere. And then that went from that
to Jello performing at the in the playoffs and all
this stuff. So it wasn't me, it was them. It

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was the clippers.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
You know, So does the clippers work for you or
they work Okay.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
They work for me, and it's you know, they give
me cool stories. It's so cool, Like like clippers text me,
They're like, oh, I'm the richest kid in my village
in India, or like I just took my parents on
vacation from the clipping money. So it's like it's just
jobs for people like my highest clippers making like sixty
like sixty K month just from clipping, just from sitting
in bed and clipping and posting shit. So it's it's
it's cool. It's it's it's definitely cool.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
Talk to me about Kick, right, Like Kick is a
lot of home is a home base for a lot
of screamers, right, and screamers on that platform seem to
be held to a certain standard. What do you what
do you think that standard is and why do you
think the platform is so popular.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Well, I think you know can.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Say it was like the dark web of screaming one time.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yeah, it is. There's a lot of you know, it's
it's unmoderate and that's what you like. Like on Kick especially,
it does have a very toxic fan base, I will
say that. But they are deep and like the fact
that a platform can come out of nowhere and like
at least somewhat compete with the other ones. It's pretty
crazy and how fast they did it. But you know,
illow a lot to Kick because I went on there
with nothing and they believed in me and they gave

(33:17):
me everything I have today. And without them, I wouldn't
even I wouldn't even be here. But they are really upgoing,
like you know, a big, big platform.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
They're growing.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
They obviously have steak and all this stuff too. So
shout out to Kick.

Speaker 7 (33:26):
You have a huge announcement, you say you're gonna make
right hold on special.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
We'll get to that in a second.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
But but I do want to I want you to answer
this question because I wanted to be on record.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
People are watching you evolve in real time.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
So what made you become more intentional about switching up
your content?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
I just think it was just like a realization that
this is not what I want to do. And when
I realized that, it didn't like that when the shock
factor's gone right and people are watching to see what
dumb shit you're gonna do next, when you stop doing that,
they stopped caring, right, So I went down for a
little bit, and I knew I was gonna go down.
I was like, that's not what I want to do,
but I will go down, and you know, in the
longer term it will work out. And then now I
feel like I'm doing a lot better for myself, and
I'm doing what I actually want to do, like bringing

(34:04):
athletes on stream that like I used to play with
on the video game, and and doing stuff going to
different cities and places where I've never could have imagined
me going like Zone six in Atlanta, greatest people ever,
having a great experience with these people at a cookout,
doing all this stuff right twenty Yeah, it was. It
was a long stream twenty one. There's Baby Drill Lotto, Like,
there's just so many people doing that stream. But yeah,

(34:26):
just like I'm like now able to not have to
do all this stupid shit that I never like that
I don't want to do and I'm able to, you know,
do the streams that I love.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
So push your goal as a streamer. I seem you
just signed a record deal.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Right, Yeah, I don't have any goals, Like I mean,
I obways don't want to be the biggest stream in
the world. But like I've never sat down and like
I want to hit like this amount of followers, this
amount of money whatever. I'm just going day by day
and just living life.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Life goals though, like like writing down with.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
It's crazy, I don't have any really like twenty I
don't have any goals. I'm still learning life. Yeah, so
I'm still trying to figure out like my like everything's
just like next day, next day, like just I'm just
focused on the now, which is you know, maybe not good.
But the record deal about no hell no, uh no.
So it's just like it's like a like I'm just

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gonna ship chat.

Speaker 8 (35:12):
Is it like A and R Were you bringing music?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, yeah, that type of thing.

Speaker 7 (35:17):
Like promos, so they pay you to promote artists and
things like that.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Well we're working together.

Speaker 9 (35:21):
But yeah you did for the Tweaker song. Like how
many other artists would thrive off that?

Speaker 4 (35:26):
I mean for sure, the Tweaker thing was very special
because it was it was it was like just very
organic and natural, Like we didn't have that plan going in,
so it's like we were just chilling. Like I was
just trying to create conversation. I was like, you got
any music? I didn't even know he had music, and
he's like, play some ship and it was just like that.
But other than that, like artists have come on and
like like they don't go as crazy as Tweaker, but
they still do good and like, you know, the streaming

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industry is just getting bigger and bigger by the second.
So I think it's a good a good crossover.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I saw you earlier this year, say, I think you
were talking the complex.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
You said you still feel like you haven't made it,
So what did making it look like?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Like?

Speaker 6 (35:58):
If you don't have no goal or you don't know
where you want to take this, just become you ever
know you made it?

Speaker 4 (36:05):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
To pay your bills? What are you able to pay
your bills?

Speaker 8 (36:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Do you have a roof over yet?

Speaker 7 (36:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Do you eat every day? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:12):
You get Oh yeah, you've.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
You've made it? You know what?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
That's subjective? Bro, I want to.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
I want to be the best at what I do,
and I haven't gotten there yet. I got to master
the craft of streaming. I got to be the best
at it and I got to do big things and
I still haven't done that yet.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
But I will make you the best at it though,
Like who's the Who's the mount rushmore streamless?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Like if you had to pick the four.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
I'll say I'll say the three. The three the three
people that innovator streaming and made streaming what it is today.
Speed Aiden Kai for sure. Speed those those those three
are the ones, like Speeds, just a different level, high production. Crazy.
Aiden's the one that started the whole trend of of
bringing the people on stream and craziest run I've ever
seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
So there's a fourth spot still open, basically what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Yeah, I hope so, I hope so.

Speaker 10 (36:57):
And that makes sense to where you are now with
like trying to figure out a way to read so
that you can do more and reach more people.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, for sure. And I just want to enjoy it
at the end of the day, Like I have so
much fun streaming. Right after this, I slept for two hours.
I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna sleep for an hour
and a half. They'm gonna go to the American Dream
and do some ship and then keep streaming the rest
of the day. Like I'm really just like, this is
what I enjoy doing. And if I you know, they
they'll be able to see if I didn't enjoy it, Like
if I didn't like it, they wouldn't even be watching.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
But I think you've learned the valuable lesson that a
lot of the other screamers haven't learned yet, and that
that there's consequences to your actions and there's consequences to
your your words.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
So when you out in the street, people gonna try you.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
Like you saw what when ab got into it without
the eight and Ross event, right, yeah, yeah, like those
guys that jumped your manager, Like shit is real. So
it's like these guys that be talking slick online.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
You know, people people.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Gonna see Oh yeah, no, there's definitely consequences and dot
I've just been very lucky because like with the ship
I've done in the past, like I should be like
like someone could have done something to me, like absolutely
bad for sure, and and and you know, thank god
nothing happened. But it's just like I'm blessed is the manager.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Okay, yeah, okay, he's still your manager.

Speaker 7 (38:04):
No, okay, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Be a manager.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
It was because that's one of.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
The reasons I like the screaming world, because you know,
when I look at Kai, when I look at Speed, like,
those guys are like the top guys, and those guys
are always positive, and so it makes everybody else want
to be positive because they see them and they see
that they've they've had a lot of success, so they
not on a lot of the fun shit.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Trolling is a big way to go to A lot
of people follow these trolls.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
It doesn't last long.

Speaker 10 (38:33):
I think it's so like regular now that it doesn't
like wow you so we don't think nothing's.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Really you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (38:38):
And then and then you know, you being so young,
you know a lot of people look up to you.
You've been doing this for a long time, like oh
your you know, your your chair and ship like they
look up to you. So you changing your image is
the best thing to do, because like I just said,
trolling don't last long. And it's a lot of kids,
a lot of like little kids that are struggling with

(39:02):
like fitting in and feeling like they haven't made it,
you know, because they live on these platforms and they
look at you and they're like, oh, he's young and
he's rich and he's doing this and doing that. You know,
so you if you are more positive, that's how you
keep them, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
And growing up with them, like yeah, they're living their
lives too, and like I just want to be a
good example because for a while I wasn't. But I
feel like, you know, they could use me as an example,
like I'm a normal kid, like without streaming realistically, like
I don't even know what I'll be doing right now,
Like I'm just like the people watching, Like we're no different.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Aden said, it's so funny.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
As soon as I started talking, they chilled out on
you keep going on, you're killing it is.

Speaker 9 (39:39):
This is stupid, shy club, dumbest ship.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Look, he didn't use a word like wan to see
where it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Didn't he didn't bring I wrote the monkey ship.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
I don't call you that. No no no no no
no no no no no no.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Some of the he's no, he's reading.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
Listening right now. How long did it take you to
get popping? How long would you streaming before work? Because
everybody thinks things happen overnight. How long did it take
mentil you got your first real check?

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Well, I didn't see I didn't see any growth for years,
like I was. It's crazy because you know, I don't
really talk about this much, but I was like trying
to just I was so like I was so invested
into becoming the biggest and becoming like a streamer and
doing something for myself to where like I was even
learning how to make thumbnails. Like so y'all know Duke
Dennis obviously, right, so I've made like.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Two of Carolina. I don't know him personally from Calin.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
I made two of his thumbnails before. So like back then,
back then, like I was doing like learning Photoshop, trying
to build up my connects, like whatever it took. But
this was years and years and years of no growth,
like one hundred years of video on playing NBA two
K until like I even saw anything.

Speaker 8 (41:00):
How do you feel like this interview was for you? Today?
Is upset?

Speaker 4 (41:04):
But how do you feel No, he's not obsessional, but
it's my voice. He's like you know, how are you
caring about not caring about him?

Speaker 10 (41:13):
I just wondering do you feel like because I think
in coming here, right, I know you have to announce me.
You wanted to have a conversation with obviously black people,
we're here.

Speaker 8 (41:21):
How do you feel like the conversation went?

Speaker 4 (41:23):
You know, I think I got came for a little bit,
but you know you expected that though, right, honestly, you
know what I've done. Stuff like this is usually like
a one on one. It's a lot of people rapid fire.
But yeah, it's rapid fire sor right though, I thank
you guys for having me.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
This chat is funny because it's the same old ship
they say online about everything, in fact anything.

Speaker 7 (41:47):
So you said you got a major announcement that you
got to make. Right to make that announcement?

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Now, probably.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
Somebody said they just said, trolling doesn't work. Not press,
it doesn't work, not a pressed.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
What that means?

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Use use the shotgun?

Speaker 8 (42:04):
Sorry, just use the shotgun with them? No, most friendly?

Speaker 7 (42:13):
How are you about to make this announcement?

Speaker 10 (42:16):
Shotgun is just a different angle on the camera. Oh no,
you're just you can give it okay, No.

Speaker 7 (42:22):
Oh shotgun mic man, Okay.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah, everyone chill out. All right, all right, everyone chill out.
I just you know, so they defend me a lot
because you know, there's a lot of there's a lot
of things being said, so that's why that's But there's
no reason to say stuff like that chat.

Speaker 7 (42:35):
I totally understand the chat. But no.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
But the one thing that's so funny though, is I
guess they're not really listening.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I told you, what did I tell you?

Speaker 6 (42:46):
I'm glad you learned early with so many of us
like myself learned late.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Yeah, how long do you think it took you to
realize stuff like that?

Speaker 8 (42:57):
Just told me that my.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Early thirty years.

Speaker 9 (43:01):
Listen this this is crazy, right, I'm glad that you're
telling telling your your chat to chill. I don't give
a funk about what they're saying about me. You have
two black people working for you, two employees, and they
are spewing the monkey that, this, that, that that that,
all the racist comments. You got to like, you got
a black man protecting yourlow ass. You know what I'm saying,
your cameraman black.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
You found me.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
They ain't got to know me.

Speaker 9 (43:24):
I don't give a fuck, but these people are obviously
close to you.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
You.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
You gotta love them, because you wouldn't. You know what
I'm saying. You can't do this ship by yourself. You
have to have a team. Team is black, A lot
of them obviously.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Actually I think my entire team's black.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
You know what I mean, Right.

Speaker 9 (43:41):
So you know you might want to you can't control.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I can't.

Speaker 9 (43:48):
But if they love him and they're following him and
it's like he gotta still be the representation, well.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Of course you can tell him. But at the end
of the day's the internet. Like the internet can say,
just like when I was at home, I can say
whatever I want. Like, there's no like stopping what a
live chat says, like if it's a stream, I agree,
Like there's there's literally nothing, there's nothing.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
That's why when you catch that.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Stop, I'm just.

Speaker 7 (44:07):
Who you are. I know you can't control.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
When you catch talking motherfuckers. You gotta make an.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I will say this period, if you really evolved and
you're really changing our respect, it thanks. Sometimes we get
crucified for things we did when we was younger and stupid,
and we need to change.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
I know I myself did the same.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
It ain't a problem as long as you're really apologetic
and change behavior shows everything everything else, and.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
There's nothing you gonna hear.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
There should be nothing people hear about you on the
internet that they haven't heard from you.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
That's my model.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
Give your truth so nobody can use your truth against you.
Whatever they're saying about me in that chat that I
wrote about it in my book, I've talked about talked
about it in the podcast do your Thing.

Speaker 10 (44:51):
You know you might need to mentor because I'm just thinking.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
I'm part of the mafia?

Speaker 5 (44:56):
Are you making are you making your announcement here?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
What's the announcement?

Speaker 8 (45:05):
Hard questions?

Speaker 4 (45:06):
I just know everyone's gonna be everyone's on my ask
for this, or like they're they're they're violent because they're
they're telling me to like like because I've been getting
I'm getting bitched pretty much, but now that's what they're saying.

Speaker 7 (45:24):
Did you feel like you were getting bitch before they
telling you that?

Speaker 4 (45:27):
I feel like I was getting ganged up on. I
will say that, well, yeah, but just because like you know,
like certain things like you know, you guys, you guys
bring it up and I like explained it and then
it keeps getting brought up, like like multiple times even
after like and this isn't like you know, I've talked
about like these things like hundreds of times. This is
a lot of people first, yeah, but like I already
talked about it once. Then it's like just keeps like
like it's just like trying to like just go deep in.

Speaker 10 (45:49):
That's the issue with the internet is because once it's
out there, because that clip that I played for you,
that clip was just reposted I think about a week ago.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
I mean, if we didn't ask you, our audience would
be saying, well, you didn't ask him about this, and
you didn't.

Speaker 9 (46:00):
Ask me about that because our audience don't know you,
you know what I mean. So you're obviously coming here
to and you probably gained some fans from this pain
a lot of haters from this as well, because it's
hate everywhere. Just like you can't control them hating on
you in there. You can't control the love and none
of that. So I do understand how you felt about it.
I think you still handled it very well.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
For you to be so young, I love to come
back in the year and you got to see all
the growth and see where I'm at, and then and
then y'all will be damn he wasn't just I.

Speaker 8 (46:29):
Think you should and listen to the experts.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
I've seen a lot of people come up here and
fold under questions and crumble.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
You didn't do that yourself.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Well, appreciate that. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
That was the announcement.

Speaker 10 (46:44):
Want to give it to us, like I'm not breaking
my ship down to the black finger.

Speaker 8 (46:48):
Ni he go home now.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
I'll love to come to the Union. I love to come.
I love to come. Let me know. We should you know,
we shouldn't hang out off stream.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
To do what it is you're doing your big announcement.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, are you getting paid to getting paid?

Speaker 4 (47:05):
No?

Speaker 7 (47:05):
Okay, because you want.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
To do it.

Speaker 8 (47:07):
Yeah I heard that. Well I can't even ask you
till you say it.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
But no, no, no, what's better? What's better? What's better? What
the movie you're making.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Where you came from or where you're going.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
Yeah, it's like I ain't even say nothing yet, but
I mean we know it. We just want him to.

Speaker 8 (47:26):
Don't let them do nothing.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Don't listen to the chat man out.

Speaker 7 (47:31):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 9 (47:32):
It's some streamers that were in the last five minutes
and this motherfucker you did great, you did great. They're
coming in and fold They can say whatever they want
behind the screen, but they wouldn't last.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
All day.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Damn that not going to breath, Come and get bitch
because because the chat told you that.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Because you're saying a bunch of people telling you got bitch.

Speaker 9 (47:47):
No, no, no, you still got your pride, You're still good,
you changing, I mean ship. Yeah, but this ain't the
last time that this is going to happen if you
continue to do press because this is real press that
shit on the internet. I'm not saying the funds that
you make from it ain't real. The attention that you're
getting from it is not real. But like when you
talk to real people in person, that is with that

(48:09):
you know what I'm saying, that connection, that being that
that person that in person ship, Yeah, that's real.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
And that that right there is not helping you. It's
not They're not helping you with what it is you're doing.
You evolve faster than they have. Yeah you've evolved, but cha.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
I'm not talking about the people that are sending the
crazy shit, but the core people without them nothing and
without them watching me. I owe these motherfuckers you know
my life like I own the world. I'm not talking
about the people that are saying crazy shit. I'm talking
about the people that watch me every day and support me,
your audience, and I love them, so.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I hope they're influenced by your growth and they grow too.
Absolutely for sure.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
They definitely see it and and and every day they
you know, they they see it and they sit and
actually watch my streams and see the type of person
I am. Like, you know, clips are another thing where
you could just see the clips and everything's clipped out
of context. But when you actually sit down and watch
a stream, and you know, it's crazy because I do
these streams and like these communities they hate, like I
did stream with with Sketches sketch okay streamer his community.

(49:06):
When he announced the stream, all l's like fuck him whatever,
and then the stream after the stream like w wow,
this guy's actually you know, you gotta really sit down
and watch the stream. And I feel like these people
are growing with me and developing with me, and I
love them. I love them. I wouldn't trade this, this,
this or anything. I love you chat. I love you
guys so much.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I appreciate having people watching you right now.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Is that a good number, Yeah, I mean it's it's
very early like it's ten am.

Speaker 8 (49:28):
It's good, it's very early.

Speaker 7 (49:29):
You're gonna do it now, No, you're gonna hold it off.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I'm holding for.

Speaker 7 (49:33):
Gentlemen. Neon. We appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Thank you guys so much. I just want to say
thank you for giving me the platform to talk and
your platform to No, of course, of course, I think
you know, at the end of the day, like I said,
come back in a year, you guys will see where
I'm at and we'll all, you know, laugh about this.

Speaker 8 (49:48):
Don't forget because then yeah, I'm no for sure, I'm
gonna be here.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Thank you guys so much. And uh ship, y'all are
gonna don't you know. I'm so tired. I love you guys.
God bless all right.

Speaker 7 (50:00):
Neon, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake ti ass
up early in the morning.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
M HM.