Today on The Breakfast Club, Nataanii Means & ANTOINEX Speak On Indigenous Peoples' Day, Native Misconceptions, Hip Hop. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't know every day of waiting clicks up the Breakfast
Club finish for y'all done.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, it's the world most dangerous morning to show to
Breakfast Club. Charlamagne to God, just hilarious, dj NB N
being just aren't here today, but ll Coolbay Lauren LaRosa
is and it is Indigenous People's Day. So we had
to reach out to our folk man antoine x and
the tiny means what's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
What's up every Monday? In good morning?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And yeah, good morning, good to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
How are y'all feeling man on this day? What does
this day mean to y'all personally?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Well, you know, it's a day of It's funny because
there's one side of it that's supposedly Columbus Day, right
then there's the other half of it that's Indigenous People's Day,
which we've been fighting to have and then fighting to
get rid of. So right now, with everything that's going on,
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it feels good to be here and be recognized and
to be on a platform like this is just like
it means the world to us and to our people too.
A lot of our people don't get to get to
be on platforms like this. We come from the reservation,
you know what I mean. So it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I think a lot of times we come on the
platforms and we're asked about the past, about the dramas
which are there. But today, you know, we want to celebrate.
You know, we're here right now and we're thriving. We're
making it out of places that they didn't want us
to make it out of, and you know we're kicking
it on the breakfast club. You know what I mean
as artists, this is you know, this is historic. I
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want to say that this is historic for Native music,
So for Native people just to be here and to
be able to speak on what we are today, who
we are today and just you know, represent you know,
it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What is indigenous hip hop? Because people would hear that
and be like, Indigenous hip hop is the Bronx.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah it.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
So what you know what I mean with Native music,
it's just us being able to use hip hop, you know,
respectfully to tell our stories, which is like, you know,
there's people wonder like what is it like on the reservation,
and it's like, yeah, there's overlapping struggles that are similar
to like what it Because I live in Omaha, Nebraska,
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and you know, I know what the hood is like,
and I know what the res is like, and there's
like so many differences that people don't even know if
you know, they're like be shocked that there's third world
countries an hour away from the city and all these luxuries,
you know what I mean. And that's that's where our
people come from, and we get to talk about it.
We need to talk about things, you know, being erased,
you know, we're not at least representation in media. People
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think we're still living in TPS is to think that
we have to wear certain things to be seen. And
what we're trying to do right now through music is
just you know, like this is our story and just
hear our voices. We shouldn't have to like cut, like
fit an image just to be seen and in order
for people to listen, you know, listen to us and
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hear our stories.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, Like it's it's twenty twenty five right now, and
people are like stuck in the romanticized version of what
natives are, right Like you have to be living in
a tip you got like or people don't even know
where he exist and you say indigenous hip hop It's
funny because on Saturday, we just did a indigenous hip
hop festival in the Bronx in the South Bronx, and
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on Friday we met Cool Herk. He came and Cindy
Campbell came and did a talk at the Hostal Center
and I got to perform with different indigenous people from
all across the Western Hemisphere from the tips of Chile, Peru,
all the way up to Canada and me representing here.
So indigenous hip hop is more like, you know, we
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understand that where hip hop comes from Black culture, it
comes from here. It comes from the roots of Africa,
which is tribal roots, you.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And the way we relate to it is from a
it's from an indigenous perspective, like we relate to the sounds,
relate to the storytelling, and we're bringing We're not hijacking
the culture, is what is what I want to make clear,
it's we're just adding onto it to grow the culture
and to be connected more. Because hip hop saved a
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lot of our lives. R and B hip hop on
the reservations, because we heard it as the music of
the struggle, music that you could tell your story with
and that's what we're doing. You know, we're relating it
and now being able to do it with you guys,
with the black culture, black community. It means the world
because we've connected in ways with the American Indian Movement,
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the Black Panthers, the Brown Berets. So doing this with
music is just another form of connection.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
What stories are you telling in your music that, like
you think people haven't heard enough of like that you
want people to really get and understand.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh man, we want to tell them about who we
are right now.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I saw it, So talk about that, like, yeah, what
what is the image that people should have of Native
people today?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So real quick, just to get to that, like people say,
oh native rapper, you know, oh you're a Native rapper.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
You're just a Native rapper. And I feel like.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
For music, just anything Native, it's never just one thing,
Like to be a Native person in general. We always
speak on it, our elders speak on it. Our people
is walking two worlds, and I think everyone could relate
to that, you know what I mean, Like we walk
this world and we're deeply like tied to our culture,
you know what I mean, Like our ways we go
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to ceremonies, we do all of that, you know, like
we sing our traditional songs that are there. They're trying
to wipe those out. You know, there were murdering children
for speaking the language and singing these songs. These songs
made it through and we currently sing those songs today
in ceremony. And so we have this world where we
walk with our teachings, our values, you know, compassion for
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each other, for people, for the land, for everything. And
then there's this other world, the mainstream world that's like, hey,
get the bag at all, cars, dog eat dog, you know,
like all that, and we have to walk these worlds.
And I think to be a native artist for us personally,
is just to put our world at the forefront and like,
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you know, kind of navigate this world rather than trying
to emerge into this and just like slipping some of
who we are. It's being who we are and just
representing that. And the story would be Man, there's so much,
but it is. It all connects, you know once you say,
when you listen to our elders talk, it's always like
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a kind of a joke where you'd be like, oh,
what is this, what's his drink? And then the elder
just start going off for like an hour and then
come back at the end of the hour and be like.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Oh, it brings me back to that, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
But that's kind of what it is as a Native
artist because if you know, once we tell our story,
you're hearing all these you know, talking about the reds,
talking about just not being represented. I think the biggest
thing is just to create our own uh, just get
inside the door, you know, just be seen for who
we are as a real representation.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Who are Native people.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
We're artists, we can sing, we could wrap, We have fashion.
There's so many clothing lines, you know what I mean.
There's brands, there's businesses, and right now it's booming within
the Native community. We have our own little economy that
we're trying to branch out into the mainstream, you know world,
And that's kind of where we're at.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It was.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We're just trying to like push these doors open and
knock them down to be seen so people could just
like see individual stores. Cause I mean when people say natives,
it'd be like, oh, what about Native people. I can't
tell you about all Native people, really, I can tell
you the general like, you know, everything overlaps like our teachings,
you know, saying with indigenous people across the world, but
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all these you know, like he's do that.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
One thing is, like I want to make clear is
that we don't represent all nations, right you know what
I mean? Like right now there's five hundred over five
hundred and sixty different nations in this country.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Of those languages, that's ceremonies.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
That's separate, different traditions, and we just represent our teachings
and where we come from. But at the same time,
we are out here trying to make people understand we're here.
And then we live with y'all in the mainstream societies
and we go through the same struggles right now, we're
going through the same things right now with what's happening
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in this country and what's happening to a lot of
Americans is what happened to us on reservations, rights being
taken away, censorship, your right to pray, that all happened
to us, Genocide, genocide that happened to us, It happened
to your ancestors, that happened to a lot of people's ancestors,
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happened to white people's ancestors as well. And at some
point you know, we got to learn from the past
right to know our future. And this is what it's about. Man.
Like I said earlier, connection, it's about understanding each other
and being able to represent who we are in the
contemporary culture right now is important. You know, even my
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own people. Last night, a couple of nights ago, a
post got shared about the indigenous hip hop festivals, like, oh,
we're appropriating their culture now. Somebody from from my community
said that, It's like, no, we're not appropriating, you know,
hip hop culture. We just live together. You know, why
can't we just all just live together and understand.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I wonder what your elder is right, because I'm thinking
about how your community keeps, you know, that ancestral knowledge
and traditions alive. But how do they feel about you
using hip hop per se to do that, because you know,
it's almost like in the gospel music, they'll be like, oh,
don't do none of that secular music.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
It's tough because I mean I don't think we fall
into the category because like if the the words that
we speak, you know, the lyrics we speak on some
some real ship.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
So there's there are artists that just go out and
talk crazy, you know what I mean. And it's like,
you know, we're kind of like, uh, new to the game.
We're new to a lot of things, you know what
I mean, and as a people, so when we hear
like our young kids talking about some crazy things, it's like,
all right, you know, there's some better things to talk about.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
You know, you're not really it.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Shouldn't be that, but but but I feel like that's
a lot of communities, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And you're not't really busting your gun, you're not really,
we don't do that.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
But what is crazy?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Though?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I don't I don't want to glorify this. I don't
think it's something to necessarily to be proud of. But
there are a lot of that those types of things
going on on the Reds, you know. And that's why
I say that overlapping things. You know, there are you know,
anything that you can think of in the Hood is
going on on the Reds as well. But you know,
a lot of times platforms highlight that, you know, they're
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coming with cameras and be like, hey, can you show
us the hood killing poverty porn? That's that's what it is.
And then I'm like, hey, why don't we go over here?
And you see that all of this over here is
like people. You know, it's you go to the border
towns and next to any res and it's always the
most racist, right and then they tell them, hey, don't
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go to the res.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
And there's so.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Many crazy like stories I've heard, you know, Oh, they'll
do this to you, they'll do this. I'm like, you
know what, the Reds is probably one of the most
safe places you could go. You go to any house
and there's gonna be some grandmother's like ya ya, come in,
feed you. You know what I mean, Because that's it's community.
It's community that a lot of times the city and
people that are just a part of this mainstream society
aren't used to because that's like an old thing that's
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not necessarily used nowadays.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Are the eldest pride of the music, like when they
hear y'all, like I said, you know, keeping certain traditions
alive and ancestral knowledge and y'all putting in the music
is proud of it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
One thing about us and Tone's getting into it was
was that we we incorporate our traditional sounds. So Tone
is a singer. He's a traditional singer. Can't see I'm
not going to try to ever, but tone he incorporates
our traditional music into it. We bring our drums into it.
We added into the beats. We're always going to bring
the culture into it. But it's funny you say that,
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because I just did a show a couple of weeks
ago where I performed in the middle of the res,
the Navajo Res, and it was to nothing but elders
and their little grandkids who are running around. And sometimes
it's like that, you don't have the moms. Moms and
dads are working, or they're not around right now, or
they're moved to the city to work, so the grandmas
and grandpas are watching their kids. And it was a
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parentit at a high school, so they brought their kids
and it's just elders. I'm talking like fluent speakers.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
What age are your elders, because I know our elders
getting a little younger because the parents are getting younger.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yes, that's true. That's another thing too. But when when
I think of elders, I think like sixties or not.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
You know, it also goes on like the knowledge, like.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
They can be an elder and older, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
That's song too. Elders and older.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You can you could be an older person with no teachings.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Just the old fool, yeah, the oldest.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But with that too, I want to say, like, so
i'm I'm like, my name is antonine X, I'm Omaha,
I'm Lakota. On my La Colta side, i'm Ogla and
Changu and that's that's Sue. That's my tribes. So my
mom she's La Cuta and that's the Sue. And within
the La Culta there's bands and i'm Oglaa and Schangu.
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The reds would be pine Ridge and Rosebud. And then
my dad's for Umaha, which is the city Omaha is
named after.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Said, that's right, you know.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
What I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And so the language I remember being told like the
language is dying. So we have things that were still
fighting to get back, which is like languages. And then
there's languages like like the net that's thriving. But you
know that that was used to help win the war.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
What war was that?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
World War two?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
So of course the government is gonna be oh yeah, yeah,
we like language and helped us winn the war, you know,
But other areas we're like fighting, and now we're fighting
to your languages back. So with the music, you know,
I am learning, but I incorporated some Omaha language which
almost died out some years ago, and I put it
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into it like a dance hall record. And now I
have homies from Washington and Sean and you know what
that means, Like what's it meaning? But you're speaking Omaha
and now we have little kids singing it and it's
like we're bringing language back. Language revitalization through music.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I mean, dope music is dope music. Like if you
don't necessarily have to know the language. Think about when
Big pun bit, did.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I know what that back?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Then?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You know it means uh? Is uh? Yes? Girl?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Now listening to bad but I look at the lyrics.
You know he's just making dope shit.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Our afro beats, like you don't necessarily know every word,
but they just ma can dope.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Music universal language.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You just could hum something and people are gonna feel it.
That connects people. And even our traditional songs, you know,
we sing those and some some songs will be like
what's that meaning? I'm like, it means all of this
and I can't really explain, Like I can't explain it.
But it's gonna be so much to explain. But what
does it say? Like the words? There's no words in
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this specific song. It's like vocals, but that song is
used for a specific thing within our ceremonies, and everyone
knows that song for that. And I guess if you
look at it from outside perspective, that's what it is.
It's like would be like humming or vocals. But with Meani,
you know what I mean? So like I feel like that.
You know, if you hear our songs, you know they're
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pretty as songs.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
What the hell is that? But it's good, you know
you'll feel it.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
How how offensive or and I don't know if it's offensive.
How do you guys feel about the fact that like
schools still teach Columbus Day versus there's no real conversation
around Indigenous people.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Day school teaching everything.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, much learned about that teaching.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
You know, they're not teaching nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So even just what happened recently yesterday the guy in
the White House signed a proclamation or what is it?
What are they signing? What's he signing? Those executive orders
to get rid of Indigenous People's Day on the calendar
as a federal holiday. Now it's always been Columbus Day
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federally recognized as Columbus Day, and then in twenty twenty one,
Biden made Indigenous People Today side by side with it,
which is a step towards the right direction. But you know,
he undid that, and he just totally just said we're
doing away with Indigenous People's Day yesterday, Yeah, yesterday, And
that took years of people to make happen, you know
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what I mean, to get that recognition just on the calendar.
And what you're saying is true, man, Like the history
isn't taught because they want to forget the history, and
it's happening right now, even with Black history. They're getting
rid of the history because they want to make they
want to make it seem like genocide slavery didn't happen,
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or they're okay with the genocide and slavery because it's
happening right now all over the world. Still, we're just
so desensitized to it. So we definitely don't fuck with
like I'm sorry, my bad, but we don't don't. We don't.
We don't fuck with with how erased we're coming. And
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this is one reason we pushed, pushed so hard to
get into these platforms because people need to see us
in the flesh twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, soon
and we're here. We're still here, man, like we're here.
We're wearing long hair. My grandpa had his hair cut
and boarding school they had to forcefully cut their hair
to disconnect them from their our traditions and ways. Here
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we are, you know, and we're merging cultures together to
be able to speak our language and have have a
sense of pride in it for our young kids and
our elders love it, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And it's wild with even him signing the executive order,
the you know, not acknowledge Indigenous people there because the
executive what a Biden sign will acknowledge both.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So it's not like you had to get.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Rid of either, or you know, you didn't have to
go out of your way to say there's no Indigenous.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
People that spike.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I don't know, man, it's just everything is backwards now.
You see what's happening. Man, everything's back.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
We're used to it. Tell us what that I mean,
it's era, That's what it's been.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Ain't nothing new. I'm sorry, I thought you I thought
you said I did. He didn't know.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
That, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, tell me about this song, Scout Takers.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Man, all scout Takers I released said a couple of
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And the people, the natives still participating in scout takings.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
We're about to with everything. No, but the history of
scalp scout taking it comes from the French. Actually, the
French did it first to Indians and then we took
it and we kind of just did it back. Everything
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that happened to us, we did it back. But we
I mean, we have stories, we have societies, we call
them societies where they honor warriors of the past who
participated in that. You know, they honored the scalps that
they took, they carried them, they wore them on their belt.
So that song is more or less just me like
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coming full circle back around and saying, this is my
mentality right now, like fuck everything that's going on, I'm
scalp taking. I'm gonna I'm gonna be I'm a warrior up,
you know, and I want our people to be that
and to feel that with the music. So yeah, Scalp Takers,
it's out everywhere. Dropping the video soon and then tone
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over here. You know, he just he just dropped a
song and video is shorty shorty, and you know these
these are making their rounds and and yeah, ships scalp
taking baby, don't get scalped.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The names and names end up on Fox News or something.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
You want me to have the slow.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What are some misconceptions about native identity or history that
y'alluld like to correct?
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Mm hmm. What's something that?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, what's something you guys that you can't say that
you can't that's why the misconceptions you get?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
What are some stereotypes misconcition?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
He's an example, and like how wild? You could just
ask us because this one dude came up. He was like, hey, bro,
I heard uh, if you're still on the Reds, they
cut your hand off.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I've always heard that.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Hell know, you know what's crazy. I went to a
Reds before for I used to work in community relations
for Barclays and we went into a reservation and the yeah,
I've heard that. Well, like people really think that that's
the thing.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Where was where was that we were?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I don't know, somewhere in like Mexico, Mexicos, Mexico, New
Mexico City or something like that Mexicos somewhere over there.
I don't really remember. It was like a long time ago,
but we went and we stayed for like a week,
and that was one of the things that we were
kind of warned, Yeah, well we weren't.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
I wasn't going to still. Well look they say a
lot man, and that's they said, wow, things like that.
And he asked me.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I was like, bro, if you still then they'll call
the cops and then you'll get in trouble. But that's
the same thing as the city. But I guess it's
just things like that.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
You know, people thinking we're just like some always drunk.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I want to say something right now, my whole entire
life as a native person, one hundred percent, I've never
had one taste of alcohol my entire life. Wow, I've
never I don't even smoke. Never smoked my entire life.
That's just what I chose to walk. And in our way,
we call that the red road, and that's the red
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road of walking free from all of that because that
blurs the connection, right, it gets you blurry and hazy.
And you know, I just chose this way of life,
and that's as a young person, I chose to be
a singer and a singer as a high regard in
our community. These songs are powerful. These songs are everything
for our ceremonies. So, you know, my my, my dad,
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my mom. They were like, you know, if you walk
this way, you walk the red road. So I decided
to walk the red road as a young man. And
here I am as a grown man and still walking
that way.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And I'm a person that's you know, added to that stereotype.
I was an addiction. I was, you know, heavily influenced
by alcohol and walking and being sober. Now now I'm
walking the red road and hey, you know what I mean.
And it's it's it's a rough it's a rough life.
I mean you grow up with it all around you
in a dysfunctional way. I mean, you guys see that
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in the inner cities as well, you know, stuck in
a cycle. So being able to get out of that
and being able to push that age and like push
that the red road is important for us and it's
iportant for our kids to hear that too.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
What about uh, you know, some of the forms of
compensation and restitution y'all are received for where.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
That where's that at?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
That's one of the stereotypes, I guess.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So, yeah, we don't get so conversation and all that stuff.
You know, a lot of the tribes out there that
own casinos that are next to huge cities and or
freeways interstates that do they do they do reserve a
per capita from their earnings to each member if they're
a small nation. Most nations, though, we're out in the
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middle of nowhere and we don't have that luxury of
having casinos near big city centers or anything like that.
But there's no other forms of constan like restitutions that
we get from the government. We've had a lot of
things stolen from treaty rights that we signed with treaties
that with the government that we're taking during the time
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of starvation when where people were being starved and we
were forced to give up land. So there's a lot
of things happening right now where we're getting land back
through buying land and taking land, you know what I'm saying.
So that's a huge myth is that we get free
money from the government. We pay taxes, you know what
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I'm saying. We have to pay taxes. Everyone has to
everyone has to pay taxes. You know what I'm saying.
So and it's just so happens that our ancestors paid
the worst tax you know, they were lied to and
they were starved and they were killed.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
And I guess it's it's those those you're bringing up,
like the main ones. I guess I should have just
brought those up. You know, alcoholism, smoking, don't pay taxes,
get free money. Yeah, those are all the stereotypes that
we've grown up hearing about. And I guess the one
I brought up is like a deeper one, hands stopped off,
stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
The main those, yeah, I think too.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Just the way that you live on a reservation is
just like a People don't think that. It's like you
live like we do every day. People like people have
like this way that you mentioned the TPS earlier. I
don't think that, and I don't I've never heard someone
say that in twenty twenty five, But I do know
that people look at like people living on reservations and
they think that you guys, don't you just don't have
things like it's like a third world country.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
No, it's it's definitely like that. We definitely have the
highest rates of unemployment, we have the highest rates of
suicide in our young people per capita in a lot
of places. And that's just due to the fact of
all the economic hardship that we endured from from from
times before, like the Howard Wheeler Act, these acts from
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in the early nineteen hundreds that happened, and it's true,
you know, but now nowadays, like you have a lot
of Native businesses that are prospering. Yeah, and we're trying
to when we keep Native money in the Native community.
And we and ton't mentioned it earlier about how we
have our own little entertainment like fear happening Native entertainments.
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There's the fashion shows, there's the filmmaking, there's the music industry,
there's and we're all like it's popping and getting that
to be able to be recognized in the mainstream as
a goal, it's a huge goal. Like they just had
Fashion Week here in New York City and they had
a whole Indigenous fashion Week on the side of that too.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
So and with that too, the yeah, the way they live.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
There's I mean, there's business owners, but then there's also
people who are still without electricity, very struggling.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
We went we went to help bring over Wi Fi
to one of the residents because the kids hadn't experienced
good Wi Fi. So the company was like helping to
get that to the resident. And I thought it was
it was so crazy to me because I'm like, how, like,
what have the schools and stuff been doing?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, and it's there's there's I mean on the reds
there's like food. It's food deserts too, like one hundred
mile radius and there's just one grocery store, one gas station,
and they jacked the prices up. So, like I mentioned
it in one of my songs about kids walking fifteen
miles to get to school just to eat. You know,
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but what if it's wintertime, snowed in, and what you're
you don't have a ride, there's no car. The closest
food is twenty miles away, and it's either don't eat
or get to that store and then pay the over
you know, they jack the prices up. So it's yeah,
it's it's tough. We're clawing our way out. Our people
are clawing our way out to just make like better
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living conditions and a better life. Some people, it's people
like all of us. I feel like everyone's always thinking
about the people, not themselves. Maybe people always thinking about
their people.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, we always have to have to you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I think I think we all have to adopt that
mentality right now. Man.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You know, to me, it's not even about what you
are right now, it's about what it's about what the
evil is on. It's really a battle of good versus
evil right now. So you just got to find that
energy that you gravitate towards. Find like minded people and black, brown, indigenous,
everybody just got to click up, you know, even the
good white fol everybody just got to click up.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Oh you know what's crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I was talking to some homies out in LA and
I was telling them, like, you know what, the secret
sauces that I think for artists is Native people. Like
there's I'm gonna say who, but there's a lot of
artists out there that I would say, like fell off
if they went anywhere else, people all they fell off
and no one gets tickets, but they're getting their full rates,
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selling out like huge, you know, like venues, and it's
all natives. So they start hitting the native circuit. So
when we say write, we say like little, like oh
we have a little circuit, but it's not really little
like I've been touring and selling out venues and it's like,
I mean, for the level that i'm it's great, you know,
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six hundred to one thousand tickets sold per night. And
when people see that, so I wanted to la and
they're like, I'm like, yeah, this is our last show,
and they're boomless work, you know what I mean. And
by having all of my people behind me, I think
the reason why people I know, the reason why people
stand with me is because I stand for and with
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my people.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
And that's like what this movement is.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
That's what antone X is, That's what Natani means is,
and a true you know, Native artist, I feel like
it's that standing with the people and the people standing
with them, and so that's why the crowds pop out.
And if anybody stands with Native people too, or just acknowledgement,
Hey my Natives, I see y'll. You know, I'm gonna
come do a show on the rest somewhere no one
(29:48):
goes because all these misconceptions, you know, right, no one
goes there. So let me go out there and show
some love. Then Native people are own real one and
I'm gonna rock with them until forever.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I've got to, you know, I've always had a theory.
I feel like, you know, y'all were not the only
people indigenous to the land. I feel like black people
were indigenous to the land too, especially I'm from South Carolina.
So you can look at, you know, some pictures of
indigenous people and then look at pictures of black people,
and they look exactly the same.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
There's always been we have see within what the mainstream
society doesn't understand that we still have oral traditions and
stories that being passed down. And inside those oral traditions
and stories that are passed down, we had trade routes
from with everybody. So people from the Pacific Islands would
trade on the coast of California all the way down
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to Peru, and Africa would come and trade all the
way from South America the Atlantic all the way up
into like Newfoenland. So we have, like every nation has
stories of these trade routes that are happening, you know,
and that's older than what's written down, what's documented by
the European American. And that's what I start calling them now,
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is European Americans, because you know, with everything that's happening,
you know what I'm saying. I always tell them, like, man,
you weren't born here either. Your generationally goes back a
couple couple generations, we go back thousands of years. But no,
you're right, and re establishing those connections is but definitely
what we have to do now and understanding and like
you said, we all have to come together based off
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of the love for each other right now, especially right now.
You see what's happening in the streets. You see the
people getting taken. It's like nineteen forties Germany, nineteen thirties Germany,
and it's hard. But the unity that has to come
together right now, man, and the misconceptions have to stop.
(31:43):
The fear has to stop, and the love has to
grow has to if we're gonna survive, We're going to live.
Take it from people that have been in survival mode,
you know what I mean, and that are still in
survival mode. We're here, we've been here, and we can
all move forward together.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
You ever been to South Carolina, nah Man, A lot
of tribes South Carolina, with the Cherokee tribe in north
North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
But Tabo, I think it is combin nation.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, they recognize that's where you're from the South Carolina. Yeah,
there's a lot of history there with p.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
D p D Indians say, the Indians like it's edisto. Yeah,
it's a lot. It's a lot of drives.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
A lot of those tribes on the east, on the
eastern slope, they got forcefully removed to Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Y'all gotta come connect with some some tribes and it
comes to power or come to something.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, you guys gotta come out. You guys got to come.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I was so young though, I'm just sitting here. Remember
in my time there, I was so young. But yeah,
probably a different experience now.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Yeah, and there's I mean, there's just be honest with you,
I'm gonna want to drink. Yeah, there's water, lemonade, there's
the power. Lemonade are the best ones you ever have?
You can drink a lemonade? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Is it like, how is.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I need to infuse?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Y'all don't have like, oh, this is this fusion happening.
There's infusion happening.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's happening.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
It's happening it out here.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You know from fact though, Omaha, the Omaha people, that's
the original power. So every power that you ever heard of,
the one that you went to all traces back to Nebraska.
The well, so power is a celebration.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
Okay, it's a social.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
It's a social I mean, I know what it is.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But I feel like you ever heard of a trail
ride in the South, they do like trail ride.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I feel like it would be kind of like that
without the know we through the bonfires.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
And all that too, though, No, so, so the power
is a celebration.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
They're sacred things within it though, you know, like people
earn all those feathers and you know, there's there's healing dances.
But it's a celebration. So again, like to be in
that circle would you would have to be clear of
all of the you know, alcohol and stuff like that.
So it is a celebration, but it's like a traditional celebration.
(34:14):
And then from there though, it goes into each tribe.
Then we have our own ceremonies and those are way deeper.
It's similar to like pow wow food. Like you've heard
of Indian tacos and fry bread. Yeah, so Indian tacos
fry bread damn.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Well that's ah, that's sort of you know a lot
of people bring up you know, that's the food. But
it's not our traditional food. It's survival food.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
So back when you know they put us on reservations,
they gave rations of the most unhealthy shit. You know,
they're thinking one hundred years from now every time, you know,
and they're like, let's give them us unhealthy shit and
they'll get shipped, you know, one hundred years from diabetes
and all that.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
But survival food.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, it's the worst of the worst that they gave out.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
But our traditional foods way better, you know, healthy, And it's.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
A lot of people are going back to traditional cooking
and eating foods from that certain area.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
So we'll put one together. We'll put together a big
pow wow.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
We'll leave from right here, we'll go to the airport,
we'll go Black Hills. The biggest power, I would say
right now going on is Black Hills power in the city.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
In the heart of Lakota Country, which is in South Dakota. Yeah, man, what.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Are you.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You know about the camp that I was at right,
because they brought me in after Standing Rock and Standing
Rock right, and you don't you know what that is.
It was fighting against the Dakota Access Pipeline. But anyway,
this camp brought us out to amplify our voices to
a thing called Burning Man. I didn't know what it
was at the time. I was like, yeah, I perform,
(36:04):
Get down. Where was the stage at wherever you want?
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Brother? And I was like all right, And they had like.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
These fake tepees up. So I'm kicking it. We're riding
bikes around. Like day three, they start using our drums
and our songs like these are ceremonial songs, beating these
drums are doing crazy ship and so I called them
out and you know, I was with some of my
homies and called them out and They're like, no, brother,
this is all We're creating a new tribe of one
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pitt And I'm like.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, conscious colonization is crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
They removed me from the camp, and I remember I
ended up getting to like Reno, and I was sitting
there like damn, I'm stuck in Reno and I forget
how I got home.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
But yeah, that's that was my experience. But Burning Man
was pretty.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Cool, and the Native Comedy called him out for going.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
There was selling out. I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I fight for my people in my waist, but yeah,
know the power it's just a it's huge, man. It
fills up the entire the monument, which is like the
the big the Big Arena arena of.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
The city, and it's a lot, it's a place.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
It's a good starting point for Like, if you're trying
to connect with indigenous community, go check out a power
and be respectful, you know, but you're always welcome there.
They're not going to chase your way. You might hear
crazy things from non natives about it.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
Don't go to power.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
They do this and this na man, it's always love.
So if you're looking to connect, yeah, go to power
and just be respectful. Understand that's a good entry way
into the community.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
With y'all.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
First of all, shout out to Queen your najaha, Yes,
Queen man, because they're the reason that we're here. And
Queen has been fighting for us to get into these
spaces for so long and she is like the realist
for that. And if you ever want to check out
a power, all connect with Queen and then Queen's with us.
We're all together, as you know, that's the homie. And yeah,
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well you'll get a good welcome to the power.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Anytime any like you know, major people come to powers,
they honor them you know what I mean, And it's
because it's the honor to have people come in and want.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
To see who we are.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
But yeah, the Black Hills Power is the biggest one
right now and took over Gathering in Nations as being
the top spot. And Gathering Nations was ran by a
non Native, which was a big controversy, which is why
we didn't attend. And you know, it's a good time
right now because now that one's ending, because all the
people stood together and said this, saying it, let's stand
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behind Native ran Power alls and like, if anyone's going
to create some type of movement from our ways, it
should be Native people benefiting.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
So that's what we're doing. You know. Shout out to
Black Kills Power off for taking that top spot.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Way do they follow all that? Man?
Speaker 8 (39:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Not.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Tani means you know, just my name and A T
A A and I I means on everything, YouTube, Instagram, everything, man.
So I appreciate being on here, and I appreciate you
first A first, you brought it up and my mom
was gonna kill me if I don't introduce myself in
my language. So can I introduce myself for my language
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means in this Shipla Latash's chin Omaha. You honk the
one d quota Dushanella. I come from Chilean Arizona, worn
and raised. I'm enrolled in the Oglala Lakota tribe nation
in South Dakota, and I'm also Maha. And he honked
the one dat quota from the lake andies. So thank you,
(39:47):
thank you guys for being here. Yeah, he shout out
to you guys. Man, because it's my third time on here,
my third time on here with y'all. Yeah, third time queen, yeah, queen,
queen man. And I just I appreciate Charlotte Mane. I
appreciate you for always just being down man and having
us on and creating the space. It means a lot
to not only us, but our people and for our
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kids and our elders.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
Man.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
And it's a beautiful thing to come together, to be
recognized here in the heart of in the heart of
where hip hop started. And looking forward to doing more
and connecting more. Charlemagne for as.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Antone X A N T O I n e X
music on all platforms. Yeah, just you know, run the
music up, check out the movement. The movement is for
the people. So if you support. I just want to
say this, there's artists that are paintings. This is just
kind of how I picture it. A lot of artists
are paintings. They paint a picture and then there's nothing
(40:43):
behind them. I don't want everyone to understand this that
antone x Natini means are like doorways. So if you
tap into the artists, that door opens, and we open
that door for all Native artists, brands, businesses, all of that,
and you'll tap into everything. You'll see more music, more,
you know what I mean. And that's I feel like
that's good. So any artists out there, like you said,
(41:05):
start moving for the people and with the people, and
be a doorway. Don't just be a painting your doorway
to your people, you know what I mean. And that's
how you open that community. But I want to share
this is Indigenous People's Day. It's nothing else. This is
Indigenous People's Day. And again we talked about the music,
(41:28):
you know, and for us, music is medicine because it's
in our ceremonies. So if this is coming to the
closing point, on share a prayer song with you guys,
to leave it with good energy.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Before you do that, recommend this song because I do
want to play some indigenous hip hop.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
So if you had to play a record, what record
would you want to play? Right now? Indigenous People Day
on the radio. I'm serious, no, no, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah, Well for me obviously my new I just dropped
the song with Shorty Shorty, which what I like. In
the comments, everyone's like, oh yeah, yeah, our community is coming.
I'm getting a lot of like the black community, you know,
coming in like, oh this is hard. I put Shorty
Shorty in front of a tepee, you know, when he's
rapping and so used to this by antone X featuring
Shorty Shorty. Yeah, and let's take that as like a
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moment for our communities to come together and start that,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
And then if you want another thing, scalp takers by
means scout, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Eddie go grab them all right now, let's do it. Prayer.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
So this song, this song, you know, the I made
it for my family. We're going through hardship. Look, yeah,
this is good. This is like blending right now.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Yeah, because with us, my grandma had to pray you
better touch.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
I like this because we just we just be standing.
But so this song it's ah.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I made it for my family to uplift you know,
when you're sad and people you play sad song. I
remember this elder that I was listening to. He said,
my song when I leave, and it was his song
for he was gonna move on and go home, and
he said, make it happy. I want the people to
be happy when they think of me. So we went
through hardships and I made this song for the family
to uplift them. So anyone listening, take the song, think
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good things, think of your families, and just send good
energy their way and love their way, and then take
it in for yourselves. But yeah, I'll say that. You know,
my pops told me, he said, if we don't have
the right words, then we have the right song, especially
as native people. So right now, the best prayer in
the world, man, is through the song.
Speaker 8 (43:43):
Y'all way way, yay, oh way away, y'all way way away, Hey,
oh way hey way hey hey yah way, y'all ho hey,
(44:04):
uh hey, y'all y'alli way.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Hell way.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Hey hey.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
Why why wait hey y'all wait hey away hey yuah way,
y'all ho hey, uh hey, y'all y'all.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
Way hey way.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Hey, hey, all right, that was antoine X and the
tiny means thank y'all for coming man.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
I appreciate the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Every day a week ago. Pick your ass up the
breakfast Club.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
You're finished, y'all dumb
Don't know every day of waiting clicks up the Breakfast
Club finish for y'all done.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, it's the world most dangerous morning to show to
Breakfast Club. Charlamagne to God, just hilarious, dj NB N
being just aren't here today, but ll Coolbay Lauren LaRosa
is and it is Indigenous People's Day. So we had
to reach out to our folk man antoine x and
the tiny means what's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
What's up every Monday? In good morning?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And yeah, good morning, good to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
How are y'all feeling man on this day? What does
this day mean to y'all personally?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Well, you know, it's a day of It's funny because
there's one side of it that's supposedly Columbus Day, right
then there's the other half of it that's Indigenous People's Day,
which we've been fighting to have and then fighting to
get rid of. So right now, with everything that's going on,
(00:53):
it feels good to be here and be recognized and
to be on a platform like this is just like
it means the world to us and to our people too.
A lot of our people don't get to get to
be on platforms like this. We come from the reservation,
you know what I mean. So it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I think a lot of times we come on the
platforms and we're asked about the past, about the dramas
which are there. But today, you know, we want to celebrate.
You know, we're here right now and we're thriving. We're
making it out of places that they didn't want us
to make it out of, and you know we're kicking
it on the breakfast club. You know what I mean
as artists, this is you know, this is historic. I
(01:30):
want to say that this is historic for Native music,
So for Native people just to be here and to
be able to speak on what we are today, who
we are today and just you know, represent you know,
it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What is indigenous hip hop? Because people would hear that
and be like, Indigenous hip hop is the Bronx.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah it.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
So what you know what I mean with Native music,
it's just us being able to use hip hop, you know,
respectfully to tell our stories, which is like, you know,
there's people wonder like what is it like on the reservation,
and it's like, yeah, there's overlapping struggles that are similar
to like what it Because I live in Omaha, Nebraska,
(02:10):
and you know, I know what the hood is like,
and I know what the res is like, and there's
like so many differences that people don't even know if
you know, they're like be shocked that there's third world
countries an hour away from the city and all these luxuries,
you know what I mean. And that's that's where our
people come from, and we get to talk about it.
We need to talk about things, you know, being erased,
you know, we're not at least representation in media. People
(02:34):
think we're still living in TPS is to think that
we have to wear certain things to be seen. And
what we're trying to do right now through music is
just you know, like this is our story and just
hear our voices. We shouldn't have to like cut, like
fit an image just to be seen and in order
for people to listen, you know, listen to us and
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hear our stories.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, Like it's it's twenty twenty five right now, and
people are like stuck in the romanticized version of what
natives are, right Like you have to be living in
a tip you got like or people don't even know
where he exist and you say indigenous hip hop It's
funny because on Saturday, we just did a indigenous hip
hop festival in the Bronx in the South Bronx, and
(03:18):
on Friday we met Cool Herk. He came and Cindy
Campbell came and did a talk at the Hostal Center
and I got to perform with different indigenous people from
all across the Western Hemisphere from the tips of Chile, Peru,
all the way up to Canada and me representing here.
So indigenous hip hop is more like, you know, we
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understand that where hip hop comes from Black culture, it
comes from here. It comes from the roots of Africa,
which is tribal roots, you.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And the way we relate to it is from a
it's from an indigenous perspective, like we relate to the sounds,
relate to the storytelling, and we're bringing We're not hijacking
the culture, is what is what I want to make clear,
it's we're just adding onto it to grow the culture
and to be connected more. Because hip hop saved a
(04:15):
lot of our lives. R and B hip hop on
the reservations, because we heard it as the music of
the struggle, music that you could tell your story with
and that's what we're doing. You know, we're relating it
and now being able to do it with you guys,
with the black culture, black community. It means the world
because we've connected in ways with the American Indian Movement,
(04:35):
the Black Panthers, the Brown Berets. So doing this with
music is just another form of connection.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
What stories are you telling in your music that, like
you think people haven't heard enough of like that you
want people to really get and understand.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh man, we want to tell them about who we
are right now.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I saw it, So talk about that, like, yeah, what
what is the image that people should have of Native
people today?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So real quick, just to get to that, like people say,
oh native rapper, you know, oh you're a Native rapper.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
You're just a Native rapper. And I feel like.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
For music, just anything Native, it's never just one thing,
Like to be a Native person in general. We always
speak on it, our elders speak on it. Our people
is walking two worlds, and I think everyone could relate
to that, you know what I mean, Like we walk
this world and we're deeply like tied to our culture,
you know what I mean, Like our ways we go
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to ceremonies, we do all of that, you know, like
we sing our traditional songs that are there. They're trying
to wipe those out. You know, there were murdering children
for speaking the language and singing these songs. These songs
made it through and we currently sing those songs today
in ceremony. And so we have this world where we
walk with our teachings, our values, you know, compassion for
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each other, for people, for the land, for everything. And
then there's this other world, the mainstream world that's like, hey,
get the bag at all, cars, dog eat dog, you know,
like all that, and we have to walk these worlds.
And I think to be a native artist for us personally,
is just to put our world at the forefront and like,
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you know, kind of navigate this world rather than trying
to emerge into this and just like slipping some of
who we are. It's being who we are and just
representing that. And the story would be Man, there's so much,
but it is. It all connects, you know once you say,
when you listen to our elders talk, it's always like
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a kind of a joke where you'd be like, oh,
what is this, what's his drink? And then the elder
just start going off for like an hour and then
come back at the end of the hour and be like.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Oh, it brings me back to that, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
But that's kind of what it is as a Native
artist because if you know, once we tell our story,
you're hearing all these you know, talking about the reds,
talking about just not being represented. I think the biggest
thing is just to create our own uh, just get
inside the door, you know, just be seen for who
we are as a real representation.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Who are Native people.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
We're artists, we can sing, we could wrap, We have fashion.
There's so many clothing lines, you know what I mean.
There's brands, there's businesses, and right now it's booming within
the Native community. We have our own little economy that
we're trying to branch out into the mainstream, you know world,
And that's kind of where we're at.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It was.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We're just trying to like push these doors open and
knock them down to be seen so people could just
like see individual stores. Cause I mean when people say natives,
it'd be like, oh, what about Native people. I can't
tell you about all Native people, really, I can tell
you the general like, you know, everything overlaps like our teachings,
you know, saying with indigenous people across the world, but
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all these you know, like he's do that.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
One thing is, like I want to make clear is
that we don't represent all nations, right you know what
I mean? Like right now there's five hundred over five
hundred and sixty different nations in this country.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Of those languages, that's ceremonies.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
That's separate, different traditions, and we just represent our teachings
and where we come from. But at the same time,
we are out here trying to make people understand we're here.
And then we live with y'all in the mainstream societies
and we go through the same struggles right now, we're
going through the same things right now with what's happening
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in this country and what's happening to a lot of
Americans is what happened to us on reservations, rights being
taken away, censorship, your right to pray, that all happened
to us, Genocide, genocide that happened to us, It happened
to your ancestors, that happened to a lot of people's ancestors,
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happened to white people's ancestors as well. And at some
point you know, we got to learn from the past
right to know our future. And this is what it's about. Man.
Like I said earlier, connection, it's about understanding each other
and being able to represent who we are in the
contemporary culture right now is important. You know, even my
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own people. Last night, a couple of nights ago, a
post got shared about the indigenous hip hop festivals, like, oh,
we're appropriating their culture now. Somebody from from my community
said that, It's like, no, we're not appropriating, you know,
hip hop culture. We just live together. You know, why
can't we just all just live together and understand.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I wonder what your elder is right, because I'm thinking
about how your community keeps, you know, that ancestral knowledge
and traditions alive. But how do they feel about you
using hip hop per se to do that, because you know,
it's almost like in the gospel music, they'll be like, oh,
don't do none of that secular music.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
It's tough because I mean I don't think we fall
into the category because like if the the words that
we speak, you know, the lyrics we speak on some
some real ship.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
So there's there are artists that just go out and
talk crazy, you know what I mean. And it's like,
you know, we're kind of like, uh, new to the game.
We're new to a lot of things, you know what
I mean, and as a people, so when we hear
like our young kids talking about some crazy things, it's like,
all right, you know, there's some better things to talk about.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
You know, you're not really it.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Shouldn't be that, but but but I feel like that's
a lot of communities, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And you're not't really busting your gun, you're not really,
we don't do that.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
But what is crazy?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Though?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I don't I don't want to glorify this. I don't
think it's something to necessarily to be proud of. But
there are a lot of that those types of things
going on on the Reds, you know. And that's why
I say that overlapping things. You know, there are you know,
anything that you can think of in the Hood is
going on on the Reds as well. But you know,
a lot of times platforms highlight that, you know, they're
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coming with cameras and be like, hey, can you show
us the hood killing poverty porn? That's that's what it is.
And then I'm like, hey, why don't we go over here?
And you see that all of this over here is
like people. You know, it's you go to the border
towns and next to any res and it's always the
most racist, right and then they tell them, hey, don't
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go to the res.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
And there's so.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Many crazy like stories I've heard, you know, Oh, they'll
do this to you, they'll do this. I'm like, you
know what, the Reds is probably one of the most
safe places you could go. You go to any house
and there's gonna be some grandmother's like ya ya, come in,
feed you. You know what I mean, Because that's it's community.
It's community that a lot of times the city and
people that are just a part of this mainstream society
aren't used to because that's like an old thing that's
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not necessarily used nowadays.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Are the eldest pride of the music, like when they
hear y'all, like I said, you know, keeping certain traditions
alive and ancestral knowledge and y'all putting in the music
is proud of it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
One thing about us and Tone's getting into it was
was that we we incorporate our traditional sounds. So Tone
is a singer. He's a traditional singer. Can't see I'm
not going to try to ever, but tone he incorporates
our traditional music into it. We bring our drums into it.
We added into the beats. We're always going to bring
the culture into it. But it's funny you say that,
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because I just did a show a couple of weeks
ago where I performed in the middle of the res,
the Navajo Res, and it was to nothing but elders
and their little grandkids who are running around. And sometimes
it's like that, you don't have the moms. Moms and
dads are working, or they're not around right now, or
they're moved to the city to work, so the grandmas
and grandpas are watching their kids. And it was a
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parentit at a high school, so they brought their kids
and it's just elders. I'm talking like fluent speakers.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
What age are your elders, because I know our elders
getting a little younger because the parents are getting younger.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yes, that's true. That's another thing too. But when when
I think of elders, I think like sixties or not.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
You know, it also goes on like the knowledge, like.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
They can be an elder and older, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
That's song too. Elders and older.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You can you could be an older person with no teachings.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Just the old fool, yeah, the oldest.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But with that too, I want to say, like, so
i'm I'm like, my name is antonine X, I'm Omaha,
I'm Lakota. On my La Colta side, i'm Ogla and
Changu and that's that's Sue. That's my tribes. So my
mom she's La Cuta and that's the Sue. And within
the La Culta there's bands and i'm Oglaa and Schangu.
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The reds would be pine Ridge and Rosebud. And then
my dad's for Umaha, which is the city Omaha is
named after.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Said, that's right, you know.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
What I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And so the language I remember being told like the
language is dying. So we have things that were still
fighting to get back, which is like languages. And then
there's languages like like the net that's thriving. But you
know that that was used to help win the war.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
What war was that?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
World War two?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
So of course the government is gonna be oh yeah, yeah,
we like language and helped us winn the war, you know,
But other areas we're like fighting, and now we're fighting
to your languages back. So with the music, you know,
I am learning, but I incorporated some Omaha language which
almost died out some years ago, and I put it
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into it like a dance hall record. And now I
have homies from Washington and Sean and you know what
that means, Like what's it meaning? But you're speaking Omaha
and now we have little kids singing it and it's
like we're bringing language back. Language revitalization through music.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I mean, dope music is dope music. Like if you
don't necessarily have to know the language. Think about when
Big pun bit, did.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I know what that back?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Then?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You know it means uh? Is uh? Yes? Girl?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Now listening to bad but I look at the lyrics.
You know he's just making dope shit.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Our afro beats, like you don't necessarily know every word,
but they just ma can dope.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Music universal language.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You just could hum something and people are gonna feel it.
That connects people. And even our traditional songs, you know,
we sing those and some some songs will be like
what's that meaning? I'm like, it means all of this
and I can't really explain, Like I can't explain it.
But it's gonna be so much to explain. But what
does it say? Like the words? There's no words in
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this specific song. It's like vocals, but that song is
used for a specific thing within our ceremonies, and everyone
knows that song for that. And I guess if you
look at it from outside perspective, that's what it is.
It's like would be like humming or vocals. But with Meani,
you know what I mean? So like I feel like that.
You know, if you hear our songs, you know they're
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pretty as songs.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
What the hell is that? But it's good, you know
you'll feel it.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
How how offensive or and I don't know if it's offensive.
How do you guys feel about the fact that like
schools still teach Columbus Day versus there's no real conversation
around Indigenous people.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Day school teaching everything.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, much learned about that teaching.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
You know, they're not teaching nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So even just what happened recently yesterday the guy in
the White House signed a proclamation or what is it?
What are they signing? What's he signing? Those executive orders
to get rid of Indigenous People's Day on the calendar
as a federal holiday. Now it's always been Columbus Day
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federally recognized as Columbus Day, and then in twenty twenty one,
Biden made Indigenous People Today side by side with it,
which is a step towards the right direction. But you know,
he undid that, and he just totally just said we're
doing away with Indigenous People's Day yesterday, Yeah, yesterday, And
that took years of people to make happen, you know
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what I mean, to get that recognition just on the calendar.
And what you're saying is true, man, Like the history
isn't taught because they want to forget the history, and
it's happening right now, even with Black history. They're getting
rid of the history because they want to make they
want to make it seem like genocide slavery didn't happen,
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or they're okay with the genocide and slavery because it's
happening right now all over the world. Still, we're just
so desensitized to it. So we definitely don't fuck with
like I'm sorry, my bad, but we don't don't. We don't.
We don't fuck with with how erased we're coming. And
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this is one reason we pushed, pushed so hard to
get into these platforms because people need to see us
in the flesh twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, soon
and we're here. We're still here, man, like we're here.
We're wearing long hair. My grandpa had his hair cut
and boarding school they had to forcefully cut their hair
to disconnect them from their our traditions and ways. Here
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we are, you know, and we're merging cultures together to
be able to speak our language and have have a
sense of pride in it for our young kids and
our elders love it, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And it's wild with even him signing the executive order,
the you know, not acknowledge Indigenous people there because the
executive what a Biden sign will acknowledge both.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So it's not like you had to get.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Rid of either, or you know, you didn't have to
go out of your way to say there's no Indigenous.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
People that spike.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I don't know, man, it's just everything is backwards now.
You see what's happening. Man, everything's back.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
We're used to it. Tell us what that I mean,
it's era, That's what it's been.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Ain't nothing new. I'm sorry, I thought you I thought
you said I did. He didn't know.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
That, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, tell me about this song, Scout Takers.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Man, all scout Takers I released said a couple of
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And the people, the natives still participating in scout takings.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
We're about to with everything. No, but the history of
scalp scout taking it comes from the French. Actually, the
French did it first to Indians and then we took
it and we kind of just did it back. Everything
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that happened to us, we did it back. But we
I mean, we have stories, we have societies, we call
them societies where they honor warriors of the past who
participated in that. You know, they honored the scalps that
they took, they carried them, they wore them on their belt.
So that song is more or less just me like
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coming full circle back around and saying, this is my
mentality right now, like fuck everything that's going on, I'm
scalp taking. I'm gonna I'm gonna be I'm a warrior up,
you know, and I want our people to be that
and to feel that with the music. So yeah, Scalp Takers,
it's out everywhere. Dropping the video soon and then tone
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over here. You know, he just he just dropped a
song and video is shorty shorty, and you know these
these are making their rounds and and yeah, ships scalp
taking baby, don't get scalped.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The names and names end up on Fox News or something.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
You want me to have the slow.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What are some misconceptions about native identity or history that
y'alluld like to correct?
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Mm hmm. What's something that?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, what's something you guys that you can't say that
you can't that's why the misconceptions you get?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
What are some stereotypes misconcition?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
He's an example, and like how wild? You could just
ask us because this one dude came up. He was like, hey, bro,
I heard uh, if you're still on the Reds, they
cut your hand off.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I've always heard that.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Hell know, you know what's crazy. I went to a
Reds before for I used to work in community relations
for Barclays and we went into a reservation and the yeah,
I've heard that. Well, like people really think that that's
the thing.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Where was where was that we were?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I don't know, somewhere in like Mexico, Mexicos, Mexico, New
Mexico City or something like that Mexicos somewhere over there.
I don't really remember. It was like a long time ago,
but we went and we stayed for like a week,
and that was one of the things that we were
kind of warned, Yeah, well we weren't.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
I wasn't going to still. Well look they say a
lot man, and that's they said, wow, things like that.
And he asked me.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I was like, bro, if you still then they'll call
the cops and then you'll get in trouble. But that's
the same thing as the city. But I guess it's
just things like that.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
You know, people thinking we're just like some always drunk.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I want to say something right now, my whole entire
life as a native person, one hundred percent, I've never
had one taste of alcohol my entire life. Wow, I've
never I don't even smoke. Never smoked my entire life.
That's just what I chose to walk. And in our way,
we call that the red road, and that's the red
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road of walking free from all of that because that
blurs the connection, right, it gets you blurry and hazy.
And you know, I just chose this way of life,
and that's as a young person, I chose to be
a singer and a singer as a high regard in
our community. These songs are powerful. These songs are everything
for our ceremonies. So, you know, my my, my dad,
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my mom. They were like, you know, if you walk
this way, you walk the red road. So I decided
to walk the red road as a young man. And
here I am as a grown man and still walking
that way.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And I'm a person that's you know, added to that stereotype.
I was an addiction. I was, you know, heavily influenced
by alcohol and walking and being sober. Now now I'm
walking the red road and hey, you know what I mean.
And it's it's it's a rough it's a rough life.
I mean you grow up with it all around you
in a dysfunctional way. I mean, you guys see that
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in the inner cities as well, you know, stuck in
a cycle. So being able to get out of that
and being able to push that age and like push
that the red road is important for us and it's
iportant for our kids to hear that too.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
What about uh, you know, some of the forms of
compensation and restitution y'all are received for where.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
That where's that at?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
That's one of the stereotypes, I guess.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So, yeah, we don't get so conversation and all that stuff.
You know, a lot of the tribes out there that
own casinos that are next to huge cities and or
freeways interstates that do they do they do reserve a
per capita from their earnings to each member if they're
a small nation. Most nations, though, we're out in the
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middle of nowhere and we don't have that luxury of
having casinos near big city centers or anything like that.
But there's no other forms of constan like restitutions that
we get from the government. We've had a lot of
things stolen from treaty rights that we signed with treaties
that with the government that we're taking during the time
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of starvation when where people were being starved and we
were forced to give up land. So there's a lot
of things happening right now where we're getting land back
through buying land and taking land, you know what I'm saying.
So that's a huge myth is that we get free
money from the government. We pay taxes, you know what
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I'm saying. We have to pay taxes. Everyone has to
everyone has to pay taxes. You know what I'm saying.
So and it's just so happens that our ancestors paid
the worst tax you know, they were lied to and
they were starved and they were killed.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
And I guess it's it's those those you're bringing up,
like the main ones. I guess I should have just
brought those up. You know, alcoholism, smoking, don't pay taxes,
get free money. Yeah, those are all the stereotypes that
we've grown up hearing about. And I guess the one
I brought up is like a deeper one, hands stopped off,
stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
The main those, yeah, I think too.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Just the way that you live on a reservation is
just like a People don't think that. It's like you
live like we do every day. People like people have
like this way that you mentioned the TPS earlier. I
don't think that, and I don't I've never heard someone
say that in twenty twenty five, But I do know
that people look at like people living on reservations and
they think that you guys, don't you just don't have
things like it's like a third world country.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
No, it's it's definitely like that. We definitely have the
highest rates of unemployment, we have the highest rates of
suicide in our young people per capita in a lot
of places. And that's just due to the fact of
all the economic hardship that we endured from from from
times before, like the Howard Wheeler Act, these acts from
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in the early nineteen hundreds that happened, and it's true,
you know, but now nowadays, like you have a lot
of Native businesses that are prospering. Yeah, and we're trying
to when we keep Native money in the Native community.
And we and ton't mentioned it earlier about how we
have our own little entertainment like fear happening Native entertainments.
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There's the fashion shows, there's the filmmaking, there's the music industry,
there's and we're all like it's popping and getting that
to be able to be recognized in the mainstream as
a goal, it's a huge goal. Like they just had
Fashion Week here in New York City and they had
a whole Indigenous fashion Week on the side of that too.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
So and with that too, the yeah, the way they live.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
There's I mean, there's business owners, but then there's also
people who are still without electricity, very struggling.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
We went we went to help bring over Wi Fi
to one of the residents because the kids hadn't experienced
good Wi Fi. So the company was like helping to
get that to the resident. And I thought it was
it was so crazy to me because I'm like, how, like,
what have the schools and stuff been doing?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, and it's there's there's I mean on the reds
there's like food. It's food deserts too, like one hundred
mile radius and there's just one grocery store, one gas station,
and they jacked the prices up. So, like I mentioned
it in one of my songs about kids walking fifteen
miles to get to school just to eat. You know,
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but what if it's wintertime, snowed in, and what you're
you don't have a ride, there's no car. The closest
food is twenty miles away, and it's either don't eat
or get to that store and then pay the over
you know, they jack the prices up. So it's yeah,
it's it's tough. We're clawing our way out. Our people
are clawing our way out to just make like better
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living conditions and a better life. Some people, it's people
like all of us. I feel like everyone's always thinking
about the people, not themselves. Maybe people always thinking about
their people.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, we always have to have to you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I think I think we all have to adopt that
mentality right now. Man.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You know, to me, it's not even about what you
are right now, it's about what it's about what the
evil is on. It's really a battle of good versus
evil right now. So you just got to find that
energy that you gravitate towards. Find like minded people and black, brown, indigenous,
everybody just got to click up, you know, even the
good white fol everybody just got to click up.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Oh you know what's crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I was talking to some homies out in LA and
I was telling them, like, you know what, the secret
sauces that I think for artists is Native people. Like
there's I'm gonna say who, but there's a lot of
artists out there that I would say, like fell off
if they went anywhere else, people all they fell off
and no one gets tickets, but they're getting their full rates,
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selling out like huge, you know, like venues, and it's
all natives. So they start hitting the native circuit. So
when we say write, we say like little, like oh
we have a little circuit, but it's not really little
like I've been touring and selling out venues and it's like,
I mean, for the level that i'm it's great, you know,
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six hundred to one thousand tickets sold per night. And
when people see that, so I wanted to la and
they're like, I'm like, yeah, this is our last show,
and they're boomless work, you know what I mean. And
by having all of my people behind me, I think
the reason why people I know, the reason why people
stand with me is because I stand for and with
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my people.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
And that's like what this movement is.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
That's what antone X is, That's what Natani means is,
and a true you know, Native artist, I feel like
it's that standing with the people and the people standing
with them, and so that's why the crowds pop out.
And if anybody stands with Native people too, or just acknowledgement,
Hey my Natives, I see y'll. You know, I'm gonna
come do a show on the rest somewhere no one
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goes because all these misconceptions, you know, right, no one
goes there. So let me go out there and show
some love. Then Native people are own real one and
I'm gonna rock with them until forever.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I've got to, you know, I've always had a theory.
I feel like, you know, y'all were not the only
people indigenous to the land. I feel like black people
were indigenous to the land too, especially I'm from South Carolina.
So you can look at, you know, some pictures of
indigenous people and then look at pictures of black people,
and they look exactly the same.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
There's always been we have see within what the mainstream
society doesn't understand that we still have oral traditions and
stories that being passed down. And inside those oral traditions
and stories that are passed down, we had trade routes
from with everybody. So people from the Pacific Islands would
trade on the coast of California all the way down
(30:39):
to Peru, and Africa would come and trade all the
way from South America the Atlantic all the way up
into like Newfoenland. So we have, like every nation has
stories of these trade routes that are happening, you know,
and that's older than what's written down, what's documented by
the European American. And that's what I start calling them now,
(31:01):
is European Americans, because you know, with everything that's happening,
you know what I'm saying. I always tell them, like, man,
you weren't born here either. Your generationally goes back a
couple couple generations, we go back thousands of years. But no,
you're right, and re establishing those connections is but definitely
what we have to do now and understanding and like
you said, we all have to come together based off
(31:23):
of the love for each other right now, especially right now.
You see what's happening in the streets. You see the
people getting taken. It's like nineteen forties Germany, nineteen thirties Germany,
and it's hard. But the unity that has to come
together right now, man, and the misconceptions have to stop.
(31:43):
The fear has to stop, and the love has to
grow has to if we're gonna survive, We're going to live.
Take it from people that have been in survival mode,
you know what I mean, and that are still in
survival mode. We're here, we've been here, and we can
all move forward together.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
You ever been to South Carolina, nah Man, A lot
of tribes South Carolina, with the Cherokee tribe in north
North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
But Tabo, I think it is combin nation.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, they recognize that's where you're from the South Carolina. Yeah,
there's a lot of history there with p.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
D p D Indians say, the Indians like it's edisto. Yeah,
it's a lot. It's a lot of drives.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
A lot of those tribes on the east, on the
eastern slope, they got forcefully removed to Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Y'all gotta come connect with some some tribes and it
comes to power or come to something.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, you guys gotta come out. You guys got to come.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I was so young though, I'm just sitting here. Remember
in my time there, I was so young. But yeah,
probably a different experience now.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Yeah, and there's I mean, there's just be honest with you,
I'm gonna want to drink. Yeah, there's water, lemonade, there's
the power. Lemonade are the best ones you ever have?
You can drink a lemonade? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Is it like, how is.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I need to infuse?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Y'all don't have like, oh, this is this fusion happening.
There's infusion happening.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's happening.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
It's happening it out here.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You know from fact though, Omaha, the Omaha people, that's
the original power. So every power that you ever heard of,
the one that you went to all traces back to Nebraska.
The well, so power is a celebration.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
Okay, it's a social.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
It's a social I mean, I know what it is.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But I feel like you ever heard of a trail
ride in the South, they do like trail ride.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I feel like it would be kind of like that
without the know we through the bonfires.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
And all that too, though, No, so, so the power
is a celebration.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
They're sacred things within it though, you know, like people
earn all those feathers and you know, there's there's healing dances.
But it's a celebration. So again, like to be in
that circle would you would have to be clear of
all of the you know, alcohol and stuff like that.
So it is a celebration, but it's like a traditional celebration.
(34:14):
And then from there though, it goes into each tribe.
Then we have our own ceremonies and those are way deeper.
It's similar to like pow wow food. Like you've heard
of Indian tacos and fry bread. Yeah, so Indian tacos
fry bread damn.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Well that's ah, that's sort of you know a lot
of people bring up you know, that's the food. But
it's not our traditional food. It's survival food.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
So back when you know they put us on reservations,
they gave rations of the most unhealthy shit. You know,
they're thinking one hundred years from now every time, you know,
and they're like, let's give them us unhealthy shit and
they'll get shipped, you know, one hundred years from diabetes
and all that.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
But survival food.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, it's the worst of the worst that they gave out.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
But our traditional foods way better, you know, healthy, And it's.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
A lot of people are going back to traditional cooking
and eating foods from that certain area.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
So we'll put one together. We'll put together a big
pow wow.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
We'll leave from right here, we'll go to the airport,
we'll go Black Hills. The biggest power, I would say
right now going on is Black Hills power in the city.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
In the heart of Lakota Country, which is in South Dakota. Yeah, man, what.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Are you.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You know about the camp that I was at right,
because they brought me in after Standing Rock and Standing
Rock right, and you don't you know what that is.
It was fighting against the Dakota Access Pipeline. But anyway,
this camp brought us out to amplify our voices to
a thing called Burning Man. I didn't know what it
was at the time. I was like, yeah, I perform,
(36:04):
Get down. Where was the stage at wherever you want?
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Brother? And I was like all right, And they had like.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
These fake tepees up. So I'm kicking it. We're riding
bikes around. Like day three, they start using our drums
and our songs like these are ceremonial songs, beating these
drums are doing crazy ship and so I called them
out and you know, I was with some of my
homies and called them out and They're like, no, brother,
this is all We're creating a new tribe of one
(36:33):
pitt And I'm like.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, conscious colonization is crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
They removed me from the camp, and I remember I
ended up getting to like Reno, and I was sitting
there like damn, I'm stuck in Reno and I forget
how I got home.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
But yeah, that's that was my experience. But Burning Man
was pretty.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Cool, and the Native Comedy called him out for going.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
There was selling out. I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I fight for my people in my waist, but yeah,
know the power it's just a it's huge, man. It
fills up the entire the monument, which is like the
the big the Big Arena arena of.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
The city, and it's a lot, it's a place.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
It's a good starting point for Like, if you're trying
to connect with indigenous community, go check out a power
and be respectful, you know, but you're always welcome there.
They're not going to chase your way. You might hear
crazy things from non natives about it.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
Don't go to power.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
They do this and this na man, it's always love.
So if you're looking to connect, yeah, go to power
and just be respectful. Understand that's a good entry way
into the community.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
With y'all.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
First of all, shout out to Queen your najaha, Yes,
Queen man, because they're the reason that we're here. And
Queen has been fighting for us to get into these
spaces for so long and she is like the realist
for that. And if you ever want to check out
a power, all connect with Queen and then Queen's with us.
We're all together, as you know, that's the homie. And yeah,
(38:11):
well you'll get a good welcome to the power.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Anytime any like you know, major people come to powers,
they honor them you know what I mean, And it's
because it's the honor to have people come in and want.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
To see who we are.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
But yeah, the Black Hills Power is the biggest one
right now and took over Gathering in Nations as being
the top spot. And Gathering Nations was ran by a
non Native, which was a big controversy, which is why
we didn't attend. And you know, it's a good time
right now because now that one's ending, because all the
people stood together and said this, saying it, let's stand
(38:45):
behind Native ran Power alls and like, if anyone's going
to create some type of movement from our ways, it
should be Native people benefiting.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
So that's what we're doing. You know. Shout out to
Black Kills Power off for taking that top spot.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Way do they follow all that? Man?
Speaker 8 (39:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Not.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Tani means you know, just my name and A T
A A and I I means on everything, YouTube, Instagram, everything, man.
So I appreciate being on here, and I appreciate you
first A first, you brought it up and my mom
was gonna kill me if I don't introduce myself in
my language. So can I introduce myself for my language
(39:24):
means in this Shipla Latash's chin Omaha. You honk the
one d quota Dushanella. I come from Chilean Arizona, worn
and raised. I'm enrolled in the Oglala Lakota tribe nation
in South Dakota, and I'm also Maha. And he honked
the one dat quota from the lake andies. So thank you,
(39:47):
thank you guys for being here. Yeah, he shout out
to you guys. Man, because it's my third time on here,
my third time on here with y'all. Yeah, third time queen, yeah, queen,
queen man. And I just I appreciate Charlotte Mane. I
appreciate you for always just being down man and having
us on and creating the space. It means a lot
to not only us, but our people and for our
(40:08):
kids and our elders.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
Man.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
And it's a beautiful thing to come together, to be
recognized here in the heart of in the heart of
where hip hop started. And looking forward to doing more
and connecting more. Charlemagne for as.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Antone X A N T O I n e X
music on all platforms. Yeah, just you know, run the
music up, check out the movement. The movement is for
the people. So if you support. I just want to
say this, there's artists that are paintings. This is just
kind of how I picture it. A lot of artists
are paintings. They paint a picture and then there's nothing
(40:43):
behind them. I don't want everyone to understand this that
antone x Natini means are like doorways. So if you
tap into the artists, that door opens, and we open
that door for all Native artists, brands, businesses, all of that,
and you'll tap into everything. You'll see more music, more,
you know what I mean. And that's I feel like
that's good. So any artists out there, like you said,
(41:05):
start moving for the people and with the people, and
be a doorway. Don't just be a painting your doorway
to your people, you know what I mean. And that's
how you open that community. But I want to share
this is Indigenous People's Day. It's nothing else. This is
Indigenous People's Day. And again we talked about the music,
(41:28):
you know, and for us, music is medicine because it's
in our ceremonies. So if this is coming to the
closing point, on share a prayer song with you guys,
to leave it with good energy.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Before you do that, recommend this song because I do
want to play some indigenous hip hop.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
So if you had to play a record, what record
would you want to play? Right now? Indigenous People Day
on the radio. I'm serious, no, no, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah, Well for me obviously my new I just dropped
the song with Shorty Shorty, which what I like. In
the comments, everyone's like, oh yeah, yeah, our community is coming.
I'm getting a lot of like the black community, you know,
coming in like, oh this is hard. I put Shorty
Shorty in front of a tepee, you know, when he's
rapping and so used to this by antone X featuring
Shorty Shorty. Yeah, and let's take that as like a
(42:16):
moment for our communities to come together and start that,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
And then if you want another thing, scalp takers by
means scout, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Eddie go grab them all right now, let's do it. Prayer.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
So this song, this song, you know, the I made
it for my family. We're going through hardship. Look, yeah,
this is good. This is like blending right now.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Yeah, because with us, my grandma had to pray you
better touch.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
I like this because we just we just be standing.
But so this song it's ah.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I made it for my family to uplift you know,
when you're sad and people you play sad song. I
remember this elder that I was listening to. He said,
my song when I leave, and it was his song
for he was gonna move on and go home, and
he said, make it happy. I want the people to
be happy when they think of me. So we went
through hardships and I made this song for the family
to uplift them. So anyone listening, take the song, think
(43:20):
good things, think of your families, and just send good
energy their way and love their way, and then take
it in for yourselves. But yeah, I'll say that. You know,
my pops told me, he said, if we don't have
the right words, then we have the right song, especially
as native people. So right now, the best prayer in
the world, man, is through the song.
Speaker 8 (43:43):
Y'all way way, yay, oh way away, y'all way way away, Hey,
oh way hey way hey hey yah way, y'all ho hey,
(44:04):
uh hey, y'all y'alli way.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Hell way.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Hey hey.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
Why why wait hey y'all wait hey away hey yuah way,
y'all ho hey, uh hey, y'all y'all.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
Way hey way.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Hey, hey, all right, that was antoine X and the
tiny means thank y'all for coming man.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
I appreciate the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Every day a week ago. Pick your ass up the
breakfast Club.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
You're finished, y'all dumb
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