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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning,
everybody is t j n V.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Just hilarious, charlamage. The god we are the breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Law on the Ros is here as well, and.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got a special guest in the building, the legendary Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Come here in a minute. There, I'm over there, Okay.
I was like, yeah. I was like, they've replaced me
right there.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Right, that's what's going on, man, I gotta ask you.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
A question before we start the interview.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Right, my daughters have dads, and uh, this weekend I
had to drive three albums. So when they sleeping, everybody
sleep in the back, that's when I listened to my music.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
So I turned on on the Firm album, right.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And being on the Firm and then your record comes on,
I'm leaving man, right, and I'm like, how the hell
did Nori get a record on the Firm album by himself?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Make it make sense? I was like, I never asked
Norri that.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well. A lot of people don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Naves was on off War Report the first album, and
he was on a record call of music, make this
dogs calm down. For whatever reason, Uh, we we couldn't
clear it. You know what I'm saying, you know, we
didn't have money back then.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, the album, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
So so now I's wanted to pay me back. And
you know, I was in that like a little purgatory
like and hip hop at the time, and uh uh
I was like, Yo, I want to put you on
the firm album. This is before like they kind of
even announced it. So he was like, Yo, I'm going
to Miami and I gonna meet you in my you meet
us in Miami and whatever Instagram was back then, the
(01:43):
niggas was in Miami.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Didn't bring me and I was like oh.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And then a month later he uh called me. I
was like, Yo, meet me in l A. And we
went to l A and I recorded I'm Leaving. I'm
Leaving was originally on Compona Noriega's War Report album and
shut it down tragic like that that's whack is That
was a single, I'm leaving, That's my man, That's my man.
(02:09):
But he thought it was whack and so we never
used it. And when I got to the studio, I
believe Dre. Doctor Dre was the engineer, and he was like,
you got something and that's why to this day, I
always you know, show Nature Love is because that was
Nature's session. That wasn't my session when I recorded I'm leaving.
So I went in and Doctor Dre was like I
said that to Doctor Dre recently and he was like,
(02:31):
you got something because he called me Nigga rock.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Rose, Doctor Dre.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
You know what I'm saying, Like I'm coming up from
Left Frack City, I'm in La so I'm like, yo,
I didn't correct him. So that's why if you notice
I started the verse.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Off, no know this that you remember my name?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, you're gonna remember my name dra and he laughed
at that recently interviewed him in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
But yeah, that's how that happened.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So like NAS and that record and Big Pun record
really set off my solo career. You know, I used
to run in Envy's basement, you know what I'm saying.
But I still wasn't a solo artist. I was a
componing no Rijega, you know, even though I was going
there solo. But that's what set off my career. So
why wasn't it a single?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Because that is it was I.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Was hating man, come on, not just playing you know
what's crazy. Like me and I spoke about this recently.
That was one of the hottest street records there was, like,
and I just, I just I wasn't smart enough to
like go out there and do my own video. I wasn't,
but I did, you know, I did take the accolades,
the accolades that came with it. It changed my life,
(03:33):
you know what I'm saying, Like being on a firm
project that was Nas Foxy Asy and I caught Mega
or Nature, whichever one you want to pick at the time,
but that was the hottest group in the world. For
me to have a record on that album, it set
off my whole career. I got on more questions. I
was riding a lot of questions.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So then I turned it off and then I turned
on your first album right now I'm rocking and band
from TV comes on right yes, and I'm like the
original version that had Cormega on it, Nah, it never
had no O Mega. So why was Cormega not on it?
In Nature on it? Because at the first Cormegas was with.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, me and Mega.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Me and Mega has always been cool, and Me and
Mega are still cool to this day. But what happened
was like I told you I invaded Nature session because
this is back then.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I know you guys probably do the coupon deals now,
like with the flights, but back in the days, I
flew out on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I had to be there on a Friday, but Tuesday
was cheaper. Tuesday was cheaper.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I flew out that Tuesday, and I had recorded that Wednesday,
but that was Nature's session, so I wanted to repay
him back, so I told him to come to an
electric lady, and Nature took about ten hours picking beats.
He was like very very very very particular, and he
was actually getting on my nerves. Sorry Nature, but he
was actually getting my nerves. And then Swiss changed the
beat to one beat and Nature just he wrote the
(04:55):
whole rhyme right there and there, and I felt like
it was my payback. And then Pun came and you know,
you know that Joe says he's a gizzy king. Paul
Pun was a glizzy I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
The king. They got to say hot dog. No, no, no,
we're gonna say glizzy.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Hot dog.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
So he went to Grace for Piet because I don't
know if you have a remember Electric Lady. It was
the studio Jimmy Hendrick studio, and he got a cat
in there.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So Big Pun saw my car.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You know, I was the only one with the gs,
you know, for for thirty you know, brand new.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know I had two of them.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
You know what I'm saying, come on, Envy notes that
you queens get the money for you and uh so, yeah,
Pun see my car out and then he was like, yo,
you have you had an Electric Lady And he went
in and he just laid the verse. I never asked
Pun to get on the record. I actually told the
engineer to erase it in front of Punk's face.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I was like, it was my friend and he just
jumped on my.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Record and I was just like like, you're not supposed
to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
He's supposed to ask permission.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And then uh Cam, then Cam called me, and Cam
happened to be in the city and Cam came so
that all all banned from TV happened in real life.
This is not like, this is not sending the record.
You know, if you could pay attention to how people
make music now, they send the records so you don't
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feel I don't get to smell your izzy Miaki. I
don't get this to see what watch you got on.
I don't get to feel the feeling that you was
in when I'm making my uphoria to collab with that.
That's why our records were better in the nineties. We
had to be in the studio with Buster Rhymes, you
had to be in the studio with Fat Joe, you
had to be in the studio with Jada Kiss. So
that's how Badroom TV happened. It happened in real time.
(06:37):
Only people that we didn't get that day was the Locks.
And I remember my first time meeting styles p and
Jada Kiss. I hated styles peak.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He took my weed and didn't share it with me.
He asked me for weed. I was like, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
It was naturally back then. Pup pup fast. By the way,
I'll give styles people keys to my house right now.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So just don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
But that's how he was back in the days. He
was just very like aggressive. His words, just veganis saved
his life. I can see the different like I can
see that like the person, but he was yeah, so
uh that session was legendary too, like.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know what I mean, meeting them and uh.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
It was never supposed to be a POSSI cut.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I didn't know what it was supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
To tell you the truth, it was really meant to
to to to.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Show nature love.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You know what I'm saying, because Nature had just did
that for me and I wanted to do that. And
and at the time, I know this sounds funny right now,
but no one knew who the.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Guy who made the beat. He was called D's nephew.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah, you know who he is, Swiss, Like I was
the first one to work with Swiss beats outside of
rough products.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is this is facts, you know what I mean?
You could look at you can look at.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
When when I when I I spoke to l L
the other day, l L said to me that I
brung him for real and he just couldn't get it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Like I brung I. I had the foresight to see ship.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Like when I did podcast, people were like, Yo, this
guy must be broke.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now everybody got a podcast.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Hold on now because Memphis Bleak said he was the
first person out of d m X in J.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Say that on the new episode this week. You can
say whatever he wants, but I heard him say that
he was the first to work with swits outside of
d m X and jay Z No.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I mean God blessed, God blessed Bleak, but monsters facts
my brother, that's my brother.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That's what bro. I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
This is documented. Bathroom TV is documented. Is the first
hit outside of of Rough Riders. I'm now he might
have he might have did work with him, but I'm
not sure if it's a certified hit. You know what
I'm saying. Bathroom TV is a certified hit. Like I
know people who who who I grilled me in the
club when bathfrom TV is on, they don't even know
it's me record.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
That's the same time though, at the same time, I
give it to bleek or and bigger to Bleak.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
We know it was on that. Yeah, I got that.
I got a lot of FLA, I got a lot
of flax. Yes, yes, Bleak, we got Bleak.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
We got drink Champs Network through Black Effect, I heeart
dope thing. We got Angela Simmons. Also, we're just wrapping
hers up. We got run Chaps, uh something. I'm very
passionate about everybody that's here. They might look like hudims,
they're not, you.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
These are people that I run with. We are passionate.
They wake up in the morning with me four thirty
in the morning.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know, I've seen DJ Collin and like, and you know,
I see how happy he was playing golf. Colin came
up to me and said, Yo, your inspiration to me.
And I was just like, how the fuck can I
be an inspiration to you? I'm sorry, that's why, that's
why you don't give me live.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's that's the reason why.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, I understand. So and I realized, you know, I
wanted I needed a hobby. Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
I've actually and this is my hobby now. Like, so
I go places. I've been to Hawaii to run. I've
been to Puerto Rico to run. I've been I'm going
all over the place and I'm now I'm officially joining
the NYC Marathon. Yes, yes, that's what twenty six twenty
(10:07):
six point two miles, not kilomitives were Americas. We're gonna
get rid of the kilometers. I don't like the five k's,
the six k's, the ten k. We are not in dudes, Udorf.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
We are in America.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
We're gonna churnk this milesy okay, so with twenty six
point two miles, Yes, do am I scared to death?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
How do you?
Speaker 6 (10:24):
I always wonder this when I watch you episodes? How
do you drink the full episode, all these episodes back
to back, and then you do things like you running
and all that too.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You still drink?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Of course I do. Yeah, I mean I'm drinking. Say
we just water right now. But what you said, the
question is how do I do it? I believe it's
all mental. I believe like all this shit and right now,
like I'm more conscious, like you know, my my, A
person that I look up to is Riza and Rizza
you know he drinks saki, right, he drinks a certain
type of saki that that gets you up. So that's
(10:52):
where I switched to. I switch to saki. It gives
you no hangover and wake up in the morning. And
I could go out because right now it's like, know,
I've lived this life where you know, uh uh, it's
a different type of lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But now I fell in love with this.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I fell in love with something that don't pay me,
you know what I'm saying, And like, you know, everything
in life is about money.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And then when you find that one thing.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
So uh the New York City Marathon is probably my
biggest uh gold.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And I'm ever like you and and and nothing could
make me better but me.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I can never remember a time you don't be running
like that's your thing, Like.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
For long time up in the morning and he jogging.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Are you supposed to videos on your Instagram?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I'm listening to y'all. You know what I'm saying, Like
text us was the Puffcase, Like I ain't gonna.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Lie, I'm supposed to be on my way.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What did I tell you?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I said, I can have my information from you. Like
everything I know about the Puffcakes, I get it from you.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Everything I know about a lot of the hip hop stories,
I get it from you.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
The things you.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Norri sent me a record the other day. Yes, I
don't listened to it yet because I was like, and
it was the first thing he said, almost in your record.
I said, you're back rapping.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You know what I'm rapping on my time? You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
One of the one of the one of the worst
feelings I ever got I ever did, was you know,
getting a whole bunch of money from Melvin Flint. The
Hustler album and then having to make it after you know,
Pun passed away and my father passed away. My mind
wasn't dead, but I got all this money, right, so
I had to like deliver. So I always regretted that.
So there's people who love the Melvin Flint Apple album
(12:36):
that people like. Every day I'm going through the airport
and somebody's.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Like, why would you say that about Melvin Flint?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
And you know, whatever I want now, I want to
make music on my time. Like I got to see
me the other day, not in person, but on the internet,
and he was like, I finally own one hundred percent
of of my catalog and a lot of people don't understand,
like he.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Was crying out like he was. He was he was venting, and.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I now own one hundred percent of everything I do.
You know what I'm saying. But at certain points, like
like so I want to I know this is gonna
sound crazy, especially you had Dame Dash up here speaking
the opposite.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But sometimes I want to work for somebody. Being a
boss is.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Hard, bro, But it ain't nothing wrong with that. That's
what we were saying.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You could have multiple jobs and multiple things that wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I love I love, working for love and hip hop.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I just didn't give them the throwing a candle and
you know, you know, throwing drinks in the figure. I
ain't giving no drama, so they we hire me. But
I love that If I don't show up for work,
then sometimes work don't happen.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
You know what I'm saying. I don't like being the
picture and the ketchup album? Or is it just release
singles when you want.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I'm gonna pay attention to the algorithms.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
You understand I'm saying, like right now, we like, right now,
I can I could an artists could come to drink Champs, right.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I suppose lu Wayne came and a drink.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Chance, I could actually see his algorithms and I could
tell him where he could go on tour. I could
be like, stop going to Milwaukee, bro, you got two
fans of Milwaukee, why are you even there?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Go to Seattle, Go to Utah, go to Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Like I can look at the algorithms, I can see
exactly like this. This is the time where we should
take advantage of having this information. You know what I'm saying.
Now we know now, remember remember back in the days
used to go on tour. I'm sorry to sound like
the old guy, but you know when back of the
days you go on tour, you used to go to Delaware.
When when your fans are in Philly, big up to Delaware.
You know what I'm saying, Big up a Delaware. But yeah,
(14:38):
actually used to go to Delaware. Okay, okay, but that
was my preference. That's my that was my preference, you
know what I'm saying. But sometimes during the algorithms, just say, Okay, yeah,
you know what, after Delaware, you gotta go to Baltimore,
skip Virginia or or you know what I mean. But
right now you can actually see the algorithms. And I
think this is the cheat code. I think it's the
(14:59):
che for everybody because I did it for artists recent
lead and I was just like, yo, I don't think
you should go here here, here, you don't have you
don't have no movement there, And I think that I
think that artist should take advantage of that. I think
a few years ago you had a hit record that
joint with Pharrell.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Oh you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I just I just I just I'm going to see
Pharrell in Paris. I don't even know, like I don't
even know what me and me and Farrel have nothing
in common but music.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And that sunds how dope music is?
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Just think about it like you we like if I
think of all Pharell rap friends though immediate, they don't
have nothing in common with the clips outside of Virginia. No,
they got a chick in common. They dressed, they were
bell bottoms together. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
they You know what I'm saying, like, yeah, they they
they Comedie, Me and Pharrell have a beautiful like when
(15:52):
we get together, we talk straight music and I love that.
I first I thought it was awkward, but the elder
I get, I was like, Yo, you know what that is?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That is? That is dope. You know what I'm saying, Like,
that's dope.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
And like I don't get none of this lotuis guitar
and ship for free man, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like I'm trying to work my anger. I want to
meet Bernard although you know what I'm saying, I want
to do that, but I'm gonna go out there with
him in Paris.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
He got a whole different sound and when he makes
a different sound, I usually go out there and I'm
a part of that new wave of.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Sounds record and did some more music.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I like Paris anyway. I like, let's say it's like
the manhat fancy saying manhattanough Paris. Let's do.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Let's do a Q and A like you do on Dream.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Let's go. I'm in quick time right now to Jim Jones.
I mean that's that. I mean, let me tell you something,
and I'm gonna say this accurately.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I see where Jim Jones is coming from, like I
can see him because if you're looking at the algorithms, now,
I can see where he's coming from. But you can't
take the legendary status that with Ill Madic has done
just Ill Maadic ill Matic itself has birthed My Deep,
has birthed Component Noriega has birthed Uh so many other
(17:06):
people like just that album, and you can't. And that
time was the tougher time for you to be noticed.
So that's the reason why. But I understand where Jim
is coming from. I understand his stass. Do you understand
that that the kids know him? Now, I'm gonna tell you.
I'm gonna tell you them. I looked up there I
looked it up, like I did. I looked it up
to see, like, who gets searched more In two tenty
(17:28):
twenty five, it's still NOTS. I can't even Numbleus right now,
and this is based off Google.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Hold on, I was just.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Looking at this shit the other day and it's still
NABS by a long shot.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
It's hard to beat NAS, okay, Streaming wise, NAS has
about nine point one million monthly Spotify listeners, while Jim
Jones clocks in around eight hundred and seventy five thousand.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And I fuck with Jim music, but that don't forget.
This is the Google search. This is the Google based searches.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
NAS gets between two hundred and three hundred thousand searches
a month globally.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Jim Jones gets.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Forty seventy thousand searches.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'm gonna be honest with you, all right, we all
know that that NAHS wins. But listen the fact that
we're even having this conversation. That's a win for Jim Jones,
and that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's a win. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I'm a Floyd Mayweather fan, right I talked about I
think he's better than Muhammad Ali. Right, this is me, Right,
I get argued people, but whenever Floyd fights somebody that night,
they're on the same level as Floyd. So that's the
reason why I hate when Floyd taking these exhibition fights.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Because I'm sitting there as a fan.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I don't want Jake Paul to touch my favorite fighter,
like I don't want I don't want him to have
a lucky shot.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
But you don't know, Floyd Mayweb, how do you turn
down thirty forty million?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, exhibition to turn down thirty forty million, but I
know to turn But so what my point of trying
to say is by us even comparing it, that's a
that's a win for Jim Jones. Like I've seen Jim
Jones in the beginning, Like I got footage of Jim
Jones and Cameron. I was filming a pre to Drink Champs.
I have a documentary call well, I still have all
(19:00):
the footage.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
And Jim Jones was out. It's on the internet. You
could google this. It's it's called what What trailer?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
And Jim Jones is out and Cam and you're sitting
there and Kim Jones like, I don't I don't even
spend money on weed.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I bout five Nichols with a twenty dollars and you
look at that person to the person that he is now,
this man won man, just one like that, and I'm
talking about you got to take him serious like he
was a hype man, a hype man, a person that
was back in to where he is now. I think
that's an accomplishment. I think that's what we should we
should be celebrating. I hate in our culture that we
(19:36):
have to compare like me personally, I don't do that
on Quick Time with Slime no more. But I was
forced to take out uh, Nicki Minaj and Cardi B
because people I'm talking about the fans were complaining not
their camps.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Their camps were too, but the fans were like, yo,
it's it's like both of them. Yeah, and tell truth.
I like both of them. Like I am a Kendrick
Lamar fan.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Even if you like both of them, you can have
a preference.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, right now you.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Feel like if you play Kendrick Lamar, you gotta throw
away your Drake CD. That's messed up.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I've never been a Drake fan.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Like, even though y'all got a funny relationship.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Right, Like when I'm in the club, I listen to Drake,
but if I'm in the car, I could listen to Kendrick.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That doesn't mean I listen to Drake in the car
and I like Kendrick in the club.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
But you can listen to whatever you want, but you
can still like both of them.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I like both of them, like I don't like you
got purposes and.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
If I give you two people, it's somebody you probably
like more.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yes, of course, of course, But but I do like both,
like you know what I'm saying, Like, yes, I like
I like pistachio more than I like vanilla exactly. But
guess what if you give me up another ice cream
and nobody look at I'm gonna eat that.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
You know what I'm saying, I'm not gonna get playing.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
But let me ask you that the quick. Let's go
diddy guilty and not guilty.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
God damn, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna leave
that in the You know what I mean. I can
tell you this.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I got to tell you from my experience, right, you know,
you know me and you know each other twenty twenty
seven years. There's people who could say, man, I don't.
I don't fuck with Envy, right, I can't say that
to them, you know what I'm saying. Me and Vy
have a separate relationship. All I can say is when
I've ever been around and I've been around Christe some time.
You know, I got my I'm married. I've been married
sixteen years, so maybe I was never really around that.
(21:25):
But I've never saw it, you know, I've never saw
this monster that they describe. When I hear the testimony,
because I got ears and I got Q tips, so.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I hear it. Some of the ship I'll be like whoa,
And then some of it I'm like nah, But I don't.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Know you seeing the freaky first I've never seen.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I really just like you. Every day you go viral
every day.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
When you look back at that.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We saw it, freaking get ready ready for this. I've
been waiting to say this story.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, let's party party, Yeah, yeah, okay, you want.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Us to play it?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
The refreshment very refreshing.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I'll see it every time he goes by.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yes, I look at it too, and I watched the
whole ship too. So all right, here's what happened, Fab
and Jada. Fab's first freestyle you ever heard Fab is
with me, Like, so I basically put Fab on like
in a good way.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I'm playing around. I always say that to him.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
It's a joke, but it's not actually Like, if I
could have I was the hottest dude in New York
at that time.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Clue asked me, can I have my dude Sport come up?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
And I was like sport. He was like Sport and
I was like, that's a dope name, Sport. His name
is fabulous Sport in my line, So we did. So
what I'm saying is me and Fabs have a great relationship.
Me and Jada has a great relationship. Drink chants. We're
hot at the time. You got a budget to fly around.
We're using the revote budget. Be up to revolt everybody there.
Thank you for holding us down. So they're in La.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
We fly to l A.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, La, it was in LA. That wasn't our studio.
If N misses his flight off, I forget what happens.
Boom Jada kissing them are on their promo run. I
like the creative person that I thought I was being.
I messed up, but I tried. I thought I was
being creative.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I hip hop, and I was like, Yo, they're doing
a whole press run. That was for the Fab being
kiss out. They're doing the whole press one. What could
our what can make ours different? You come to the show.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
So he's like, all right, cool, it's Gooomy Loo birthday.
We're gonna go celebrate with y'allo. Now that part you forget.
That's why the candles was there. It was Boody Loo birthday.
Who is a Rastafarian, the furthest thing from anything like
fab Jada Kiss and Diddy arrived at the same time.
(23:54):
Remember Diddy's a surprise. So my friend mister Lee, who's
who is Dominican? What's his slang?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Dotty yol dotty, you old dotty. That's how he talking
Dominicans because they didn't they don't want to say poppy.
Poppy is a Puerto Rican thing, you understand I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
So he sees Diddy say, oo, Dotty, you gotta put
you over here, dotty because we got, we got and
we don't want them to see it. So Diddy got
that in his head. Now Doddy, Now he's just kidding dotty, Doddy.
He thinks that's what we're saying. No what it's not
what we're saying. Is this what mister Lee is saying.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's it. That's it. So so we walk over and
he goes, yo, what's up? Doddy fucks the interview up immediately.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yes, it does all right, cool, But here's what y'all
don't know. When he's saying to Fabulous, yo, why didn't
you party with me no more? Look at us in
front of Fabulous. That's not a rock Fabulous had a
whole coco loso what but Diddy. So when I'm inviting Diddy.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
To co host, he.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Has a whole nother thing. He's coming that fab why
you're not drinking no more? That's what he's saying, why
we don't party no more?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And look he's pointing at it.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
He's like, and Bab, if you look, Bab is almost
trying to throw the VOK away because he's like, and
you know, he had a deal. So that's really what
that was about. Like, that's what And the daddy part
came from mister Lee, and you know, hold on, there
was more to that. He said, I like it when
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you scrambling and.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Scrambling in that part.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I can't, I can't. I don't know I was, I was,
I was throwing off to. I was throwing off to
And you know what's the crazy thing about it. You know,
I was sitting on the editing floor.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
He was like, keep all that in.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I was like, fuck it.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I was like, you know what, Well, I really wish
I would have edited it was the Kanye now that
you know, we didn't edit nothing until then. Until then,
But Kanye's was very weird, like because I had never
got what is it, second grade secondhand second hand hate?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I got second I got secondhand hate or so yeah,
but that that's that's that's that's the story.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I mean, the Dinny thing is interesting, like I don't
I don't know whether he's guilty or not, but that
interview was classic before that classic any of this ship.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I played it for him when he was Yeah, I
saw that, Yes, I saw that.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I mean, you know, that's that's been a that's been
a dope thing about drink Champs. It's like I get
to to make mistakes in front the fans live like
in real time, and they robbing me, like you know
what I mean, don't get it twisted.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I love the hate though too.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I love ballance because I've lived my whole career where
you know, you know, people have my back and you know,
just to see like it's a balance to this, you
know what I mean, Like I'm with it because but
that's why I love I enjoy doing what we're doing
with run Champs.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's like it's all positivity.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Like this is the only time I could post something,
somebody would always say something you run it slow. Kanye
shit was interesting too though, because it's like you're not
responsible for what comes out of Kanye's mouth.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
You're a platform, you're a host.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, but I felt responsible, you know why.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
When when I found out that George Floyd people's didn't
like it, I felt responsible because and by the way,
God bless me. I've never said this before, but this
parts that we edited it, Like there is actually parts
that we did edit, Like he compared I said, he
(27:41):
compared George Floyd to Martin Luther King hmm and and
and he was.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Like, what's the difference between George Floyd and Martin Luther King?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
And we were all like we've been at that time,
so we were thrown off, like what And he was
like Martin Luther King had bitches and.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
We were like, oh shit, we knew that had to
be edited right there, like we were like, oh no,
and so we were paying attention to the parts that
we weren't paying attention.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
To everything, like you know what I mean. So and
and he had got me, he had he had called me.
I don't want to like like blame it all on him,
because that's you know, it was. It was a collective.
It just didn't I just didn't know what I didn't
know how to edit at that time.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
We spoke. We spoke.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
We since then we spoke like five six times. Then
it disappeared, and so did he have not spoken to him.
So I'm gonna do a documentary my two years with Kanye,
because I had two years. I just like I thought
he I thought he was listening to me at one point.
He's actually married to advice, and I was I felt obligated.
I was like I was going downstairs.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I was going I was.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Walking away from my wife because I didn't even want
my hunter know that I was giving wife advice and
married to advice. And then he would listen to me
and then he'd just tweet away right after, and I
was like you too a little bit, you know, he
ain't sugar me, I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I never took it like that.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
After you apologize, he.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Said, no, he's a good guy. He said, no, he's
a good guy. That I didn't because I have to
tell you the truth. I understood media, but I only
understood the good side of media at that time. Like
when I come to the breakfast club and I go
to Canada, people will be like your breakfast club, like
it's positive, you know what I'm saying. So this was
my this is my this is my turn of saying,
you know what, it ain't all guts and glary, like
(29:26):
sometimes you gotta go outside and take the gum under
the table and then put put the gum under the
table in your mouth and motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Maybe that was maybe, but you know what I'm saying.
Sometimes you gotta stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Sometimes you gotta scuff your timsisis you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And that's that's that's that's that's.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Pretty much what's your edit process like now after that,
because it was lawsuits and everything his way after that
whole ship.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, indeed it's still done after that. You know, it
was crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I want to big up to to unlikely people who
called me during that time, like Shaq called me, and
you know, Shaq, he's mad calm when he talks you,
all right.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I was like, yeah, he's like I got you.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
And I was like, damn, you know, even if he
was even if he was front and that ship made
me feel good for real called me. And then then
yay he called me and I was like, yo, y
hey man, I feel like I'm about to lose everything.
And he was like interesting, that's what he said, said bro,
And that's.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Pretty much it. So we had to shake it off.
And another part of that was my Jewish friends.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You know. I had Rabbi's coming at me like hey man,
I want to come on the show, and I was
just like, I don't know if I go that far.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
But it was just crazy. It was just crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
And then he doubled down on it, like attention is
attention is is crazy. So he doubled down on it,
and I don't know, I don't know what if he
called back. I think I think I accept on Drink
Champs again. I'll just be more responsible and I won't
drink a bigie.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yeah what business wise for Drink Chaps because you got
the network now, Yeah, I remember it was an early
episode where you were talking about how you learned that
the audio in the video could be sold separately.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
Right now with the network, you're doing that for other people.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
So business wise, like where does norristen as a businessman
giving people advice on things like that?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Absolutely that that was something that that I noticed immediately.
You know, Gods, God bless the dead, colmbat Jack Combat Jack.
I was noticing when I when I when I first
because they were doing podcasts, but I don't think they
were calling it podcast right, podcast? Okay, so a lot
of people give a Sipher Stiles in Rosenberg and they
(31:45):
were they were official I believe hip hop's first podcast.
But I was noticing when I was looking at certain people,
like they would throw our episodes and the episodes.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Would be on what was that, what was that network?
SoundCloud or whatever.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
The audio it will be there, but then the YouTube
would be a kid that ripped the audio and just
put it up there. But it would be the kids YouTube,
but it's their episode. So I would sit back and
I would be like, why are they allowing that to
do it?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
That's happened to the Breakfast Love for years.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I know
that happened to us for two weeks and I shut
that ship down. How oh well, it.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Was different because we used to put we was always
putting video up right, but they would rip the video
and like it would go. You know, I didn't mind
because it was like promo. Yeah, but they would definitely
do that on YouTube. There was somebody making a bunch
of money years a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, so I noticed that.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I noticed that, and then it was like anything subscription based,
you know, I got a resource from but anything subscription
base is not in competition with leanyard, it's not in
competition with television, and it's not in competition with YouTube.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
So I made a genius deal a couple of years ago.
A lot of people didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
But I had Massive, which is nas label handling the audio.
I had Title, which is jay Z's on a subscription level,
and then I had Revolt on a television level, and
everyone thought I was doing some funny ship. This was legit,
this was I mean, they didn't want to share with
(33:20):
each other. I made made them black excellence. No no, no, no,
you say black excellence. We're gonna let it ship out
and we did it.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
We had, we had. It was a it was a
great time, you know what I mean. Yeah, So I
feel like, you know, still.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Doing it now?
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, I mean yes, the video was with yeah, yeah,
pick up everybody at the vault. Man uh revolt took
a hit, you know when did he step down? And
they didn't miss a beat man. They stepped up, you know,
all of the people. They stepped up. I see they
got a deal with AM picked that up. I've been
(34:01):
telling Cam to come over here for a minute. And
so I'm glad, like and they got Brandon Marshall a
sports show. They they're they're really trying to compete with
the Elite network. So I'm I got their back, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And so I'm it.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Why did a woman get mad at you for ordering
the whole bottle of wine?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Oh you want to talk about that? You know?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
No, no, no, no, Well I got the nine one
one call. I should play this ship, right, I got
she called she called the police on me. But we
were we were sitting in Houston's in Miami, right in Miami, and.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
It got busy.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
You know, I've never had these since I had the braids,
I know, MV hating because he can't grow here.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I definitely could grow hate that man.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I couldn't just my brain would be in the middle
of my back.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Well, so I believe she was trying to flip the table,
and you know, I go to Houston's flip the table,
flip the table, you know, like you know, get to
somebody else, because we were finished eating and it was
just another bottle of one and then they were like, uh,
you know they placeally trying to flip the tape our
own two juice bars, so I know, when it gets crowded.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Table for people that don't know, we try to get
you out to get another customer.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
To get another customer on there. We finished our meal
enough to finish our meal, so we just had an extra.
So the lady was like, we're not going to Audero
another bottle. So we was like all right, cool boom
and we stood there.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
So you tried to buy another bottle?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
She said, yo, yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
So they went and got the manager and the manager
took the actual bottle that was there and was like, yo,
I comped it.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I was like, I don't need you to comp nothing
for me, you know what I mean, And she took
it away.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
And this was the most racist thing I've ever so
now that that's being racist in itself, right, But I
was privileged to call for the nine on one call
because she said, I'm calling the police, and I paid taxes. Bro,
I'm legit, I'm legit for twenty seven years. This here
fooled you, ma'am. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
So she called the police. I stood there like a
man that I am.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
The police came and the police one of the officers said,
this is two bottles?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Is this something else going on?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Like he must have thought that this was a secret,
like something that like like maybe I was messing with
her or something on the side, cause he's like, people
don't do this, they don't call the police. He's like,
in fact, the party don't even start to three bottles.
And I'm like, I didn't even get to the three.
This is the police officer. So if I was beligately
enough anything, do you know what happens when you call
a police officer on a black man in America?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
That woman tried to get me killed. She said, I'm
in fear of my life, that's what she said.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Damn. Like I went to therapy, like I'm going to
therapy right now for this, you know what I'm saying,
like like traumatized, yo, Like what if what if these
officers had a bad day and they came and they
just just I was I was. I spoke very calm,
I stood my ground, but I'm still like I'm traumatized
(37:06):
from this, like like I got called the police on
guns out, she said.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
She She said on a nine one one call that
she felt threatened for her life because I ordered a bottle.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Like I wasn't partying, I wasn't on the table, I
wasn't really I wasn't doing none of that. Like I
was actually celebrating, like you know, I was just chilling,
like that's how I celebrate. And I'm traumatized. I don't
want to go in that area. I don't want to
go in that area. Like I'll go all around and
and like to tell you the truth, like I said,
one of the one of the black cops. It was
two black cops that was there. So as I was
(37:39):
describing it, the two black cops to the side, they
one the head guy was a white guy and the
guy under him was a Spanish guy. But you just
seen the two black brothers as I was like saying it.
You just see their head down, like damn, you still
got to go through it. You could make it to
a level in life, and you still got to go
through regular, regular, regular stuff, you know what I'm saying.
(38:00):
So that it really really really really really hurt me.
It really put me in there, and I just got
back to it again. I think, you know, me running, me,
running to get my mind over that, you know what
I'm saying. And now you know, we just ran with
Angela Simmons and we didn't have a permit and the
police pulled over and I was like, god, damn, there Ran.
I was like, holy shit, I forget, like hoh, because
(38:22):
it's just it's just no, I mean the film, the film,
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, but that was a
horrible situation. You know, You've had success in two erarors, right,
had the success in music classic nineties in the podcast
game which Hustle taught you more about survival the music
industry of the media world.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Now, Reggae Throne taught me more.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Reggae Throne was at the time when I entered Reggae Throne,
I was asking artists for their publishing, like you know,
to like doing records with them and giving them publishing
and they didn't. They didn't know what publishing was at
that time. Now they they're very smart, they're very up
to date now. But back then I felt I felt horrible,
like seeing how they were conducting business and seeing like
(39:05):
like like like like like. For instance, like Fabulous doesn't
have to get along with styles P, right, but if
Fabulous and styles P does a tour, Fabulous and styles
people show up every single day, styles would be on
his side of the thing.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I didn't see that in Reggae Thro.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I'm not I'm not saying that they don't do that now,
but back then, Donald Marr would not do a show
with Daddy Yankee. Daddy Yankee wouldn't do a show with
what I'm gonna give you an example. I'm not saying
the exact thing, but he wouldn't do a show with
Winston and yan Dale. I'm talking about back then, and
I'm not saying this is the case. I'll just give
you a example of names. And when I was seeing
that with Reggae thro and it made me step up
my hustle. It made me say that, damn, like these
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guys are certain people are ahead and certain people are
light years away. Like I remember bringing Daddy Yankee to
to to to Dame Dash and saying, Yo, this is
the next dude. And Daddy Yankee wanted like two million
at the time, and Dame Dash said, give them Rockaware
it hurt me, It hurt me, and this this, this
man became to be the most lucrative person on the planet.
(40:01):
And then that genre of music turned into the most
one of the most lucrative things. And then that helped
afrobeats and look at looks, so on and so forth.
Like I got the chance to see reggae Throne, I
got a chance to come to America, uh and say, yo,
this is the next genre of music, and people say
you're crazy. Nor So when you asked me what the
most hustle I did, the most hustle I've ever got
(40:23):
was from Reggae Throng because I had to start all over.
I had to start from the bottom of that to
make it to a king which you want to talk
you more about survival. You gotta realize Fat Joe is
one of my closest friends. Fat Joe's had an intervention
with me.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh what they wanted me not to do? Reggae Thong.
They were like, reggae Thon is whack, biggest record, Yes,
he's like.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
EFN had an intervention with me, told me reggae thne
is whack. But now and there were in their respects.
Both of them has recently came up to me and
was like, I'm sorry were they were wrong?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
And but that's cool.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Like when you first to do something, you're always gonna
look a little stupid, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
So but also they're your brother, so they wanted to
they want to were trying to protect It's.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
Not happening at the time, Like where what was the
forward thought? They even make you want to be first
in some of these arenas.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I liked, I liked, I liked it.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I liked I like going in my lane because there's
no traffic in my lane, right, Like I always knew that.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I like I said this on the show before.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I always knew I ain't have the best work, but
I know that I'm gonna stay out longer than anybody.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Right, So what I want to do is I want
to go to a section where it's just my section. Right.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
So when when when mob deep was was the thing
and and and everyone was you know, it was cracked
lines out the door to get a Havoc beat. You know,
I wanted to work with a kid from Virginia that
had a tight shirt on and a choker, and he
winds up being a legend.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Ain't for real.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
But when I worked messed with phar Real, people were like,
why is his shirt so tight? People were telling me,
is that I line?
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Know?
Speaker 4 (42:00):
He got on and I'm like, wow, y'all looking at
this man's features and all this other stuff. The man
is making beats him and chat is knocking it down.
You know, I'm the Nettunes. I'm not just for real,
I'm the Neptunes. So people laughed at me when I
did that. I like being the first, but I know
that when I get there first, people will. I had
the two way first. It's online two way.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
Yeah, putting little Wayne on your putting little money, putting you.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
He's still he's still he's still taking my music right
to this day.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Guy, Let's get into a record. Let's get into this record.
Let me pull it up. I get the name of it, well,
you tell us the name of it.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
No, it's called Win Again, because that's what we're gonna
do we're gonna win again, and there's two features on there.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I guess we'll figure it out.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
And make sure you keep subscribing to Drink champses, make
sure you support the Drink Champs network. A mid bleak show,
Angela Simmons Show comes soon, you know, and run Champs
right well, Healthy High, it's called Healthy High, Healthy all right, Well,
it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
It's Nori.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Let's go wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast
Club
Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning,
everybody is t j n V.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Just hilarious, charlamage. The god we are the breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Law on the Ros is here as well, and.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got a special guest in the building, the legendary Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Come here in a minute. There, I'm over there, Okay.
I was like, yeah. I was like, they've replaced me
right there.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Right, that's what's going on, man, I gotta ask you.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
A question before we start the interview.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Right, my daughters have dads, and uh, this weekend I
had to drive three albums. So when they sleeping, everybody
sleep in the back, that's when I listened to my music.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
So I turned on on the Firm album, right.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And being on the Firm and then your record comes on,
I'm leaving man, right, and I'm like, how the hell
did Nori get a record on the Firm album by himself?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Make it make sense? I was like, I never asked
Norri that.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well. A lot of people don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Naves was on off War Report the first album, and
he was on a record call of music, make this
dogs calm down. For whatever reason, Uh, we we couldn't
clear it. You know what I'm saying, you know, we
didn't have money back then.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, the album, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
So so now I's wanted to pay me back. And
you know, I was in that like a little purgatory
like and hip hop at the time, and uh uh
I was like, Yo, I want to put you on
the firm album. This is before like they kind of
even announced it. So he was like, Yo, I'm going
to Miami and I gonna meet you in my you meet
us in Miami and whatever Instagram was back then, the
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niggas was in Miami.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Didn't bring me and I was like oh.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And then a month later he uh called me. I
was like, Yo, meet me in l A. And we
went to l A and I recorded I'm Leaving. I'm
Leaving was originally on Compona Noriega's War Report album and
shut it down tragic like that that's whack is That
was a single, I'm leaving, That's my man, That's my man.
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But he thought it was whack and so we never
used it. And when I got to the studio, I
believe Dre. Doctor Dre was the engineer, and he was like,
you got something and that's why to this day, I
always you know, show Nature Love is because that was
Nature's session. That wasn't my session when I recorded I'm leaving.
So I went in and Doctor Dre was like I
said that to Doctor Dre recently and he was like,
(02:31):
you got something because he called me Nigga rock.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Rose, Doctor Dre.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
You know what I'm saying, Like I'm coming up from
Left Frack City, I'm in La so I'm like, yo,
I didn't correct him. So that's why if you notice
I started the verse.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Off, no know this that you remember my name?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, you're gonna remember my name dra and he laughed
at that recently interviewed him in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
But yeah, that's how that happened.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So like NAS and that record and Big Pun record
really set off my solo career. You know, I used
to run in Envy's basement, you know what I'm saying.
But I still wasn't a solo artist. I was a
componing no Rijega, you know, even though I was going
there solo. But that's what set off my career. So
why wasn't it a single?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Because that is it was I.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Was hating man, come on, not just playing you know
what's crazy. Like me and I spoke about this recently.
That was one of the hottest street records there was, like,
and I just, I just I wasn't smart enough to
like go out there and do my own video. I wasn't,
but I did, you know, I did take the accolades,
the accolades that came with it. It changed my life,
(03:33):
you know what I'm saying, Like being on a firm
project that was Nas Foxy Asy and I caught Mega
or Nature, whichever one you want to pick at the time,
but that was the hottest group in the world. For
me to have a record on that album, it set
off my whole career. I got on more questions. I
was riding a lot of questions.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So then I turned it off and then I turned
on your first album right now I'm rocking and band
from TV comes on right yes, and I'm like the
original version that had Cormega on it, Nah, it never
had no O Mega. So why was Cormega not on it?
In Nature on it? Because at the first Cormegas was with.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, me and Mega.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Me and Mega has always been cool, and Me and
Mega are still cool to this day. But what happened
was like I told you I invaded Nature session because
this is back then.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I know you guys probably do the coupon deals now,
like with the flights, but back in the days, I
flew out on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I had to be there on a Friday, but Tuesday
was cheaper. Tuesday was cheaper.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I flew out that Tuesday, and I had recorded that Wednesday,
but that was Nature's session, so I wanted to repay
him back, so I told him to come to an
electric lady, and Nature took about ten hours picking beats.
He was like very very very very particular, and he
was actually getting on my nerves. Sorry Nature, but he
was actually getting my nerves. And then Swiss changed the
beat to one beat and Nature just he wrote the
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whole rhyme right there and there, and I felt like
it was my payback. And then Pun came and you know,
you know that Joe says he's a gizzy king. Paul
Pun was a glizzy I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
The king. They got to say hot dog. No, no, no,
we're gonna say glizzy.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Hot dog.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
So he went to Grace for Piet because I don't
know if you have a remember Electric Lady. It was
the studio Jimmy Hendrick studio, and he got a cat
in there.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So Big Pun saw my car.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You know, I was the only one with the gs,
you know, for for thirty you know, brand new.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know I had two of them.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
You know what I'm saying, come on, Envy notes that
you queens get the money for you and uh so, yeah,
Pun see my car out and then he was like, yo,
you have you had an Electric Lady And he went
in and he just laid the verse. I never asked
Pun to get on the record. I actually told the
engineer to erase it in front of Punk's face.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I was like, it was my friend and he just
jumped on my.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Record and I was just like like, you're not supposed
to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
He's supposed to ask permission.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And then uh Cam, then Cam called me, and Cam
happened to be in the city and Cam came so
that all all banned from TV happened in real life.
This is not like, this is not sending the record.
You know, if you could pay attention to how people
make music now, they send the records so you don't
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feel I don't get to smell your izzy Miaki. I
don't get this to see what watch you got on.
I don't get to feel the feeling that you was
in when I'm making my uphoria to collab with that.
That's why our records were better in the nineties. We
had to be in the studio with Buster Rhymes, you
had to be in the studio with Fat Joe, you
had to be in the studio with Jada Kiss. So
that's how Badroom TV happened. It happened in real time.
(06:37):
Only people that we didn't get that day was the Locks.
And I remember my first time meeting styles p and
Jada Kiss. I hated styles peak.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He took my weed and didn't share it with me.
He asked me for weed. I was like, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
It was naturally back then. Pup pup fast. By the way,
I'll give styles people keys to my house right now.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So just don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
But that's how he was back in the days. He
was just very like aggressive. His words, just veganis saved
his life. I can see the different like I can
see that like the person, but he was yeah, so
uh that session was legendary too, like.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know what I mean, meeting them and uh.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
It was never supposed to be a POSSI cut.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I didn't know what it was supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
To tell you the truth, it was really meant to
to to to.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Show nature love.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You know what I'm saying, because Nature had just did
that for me and I wanted to do that. And
and at the time, I know this sounds funny right now,
but no one knew who the.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Guy who made the beat. He was called D's nephew.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah, you know who he is, Swiss, Like I was
the first one to work with Swiss beats outside of
rough products.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is this is facts, you know what I mean?
You could look at you can look at.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
When when I when I I spoke to l L
the other day, l L said to me that I
brung him for real and he just couldn't get it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Like I brung I. I had the foresight to see ship.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Like when I did podcast, people were like, Yo, this
guy must be broke.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now everybody got a podcast.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Hold on now because Memphis Bleak said he was the
first person out of d m X in J.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Say that on the new episode this week. You can
say whatever he wants, but I heard him say that
he was the first to work with swits outside of
d m X and jay Z No.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I mean God blessed, God blessed Bleak, but monsters facts
my brother, that's my brother.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That's what bro. I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
This is documented. Bathroom TV is documented. Is the first
hit outside of of Rough Riders. I'm now he might
have he might have did work with him, but I'm
not sure if it's a certified hit. You know what
I'm saying. Bathroom TV is a certified hit. Like I
know people who who who I grilled me in the
club when bathfrom TV is on, they don't even know
it's me record.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
That's the same time though, at the same time, I
give it to bleek or and bigger to Bleak.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
We know it was on that. Yeah, I got that.
I got a lot of FLA, I got a lot
of flax. Yes, yes, Bleak, we got Bleak.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
We got drink Champs Network through Black Effect, I heeart
dope thing. We got Angela Simmons. Also, we're just wrapping
hers up. We got run Chaps, uh something. I'm very
passionate about everybody that's here. They might look like hudims,
they're not, you.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
These are people that I run with. We are passionate.
They wake up in the morning with me four thirty
in the morning.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know, I've seen DJ Collin and like, and you know,
I see how happy he was playing golf. Colin came
up to me and said, Yo, your inspiration to me.
And I was just like, how the fuck can I
be an inspiration to you? I'm sorry, that's why, that's
why you don't give me live.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's that's the reason why.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, I understand. So and I realized, you know, I
wanted I needed a hobby. Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
I've actually and this is my hobby now. Like, so
I go places. I've been to Hawaii to run. I've
been to Puerto Rico to run. I've been I'm going
all over the place and I'm now I'm officially joining
the NYC Marathon. Yes, yes, that's what twenty six twenty
(10:07):
six point two miles, not kilomitives were Americas. We're gonna
get rid of the kilometers. I don't like the five k's,
the six k's, the ten k. We are not in dudes, Udorf.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
We are in America.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
We're gonna churnk this milesy okay, so with twenty six
point two miles, Yes, do am I scared to death?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
How do you?
Speaker 6 (10:24):
I always wonder this when I watch you episodes? How
do you drink the full episode, all these episodes back
to back, and then you do things like you running
and all that too.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You still drink?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Of course I do. Yeah, I mean I'm drinking. Say
we just water right now. But what you said, the
question is how do I do it? I believe it's
all mental. I believe like all this shit and right now,
like I'm more conscious, like you know, my my, A
person that I look up to is Riza and Rizza
you know he drinks saki, right, he drinks a certain
type of saki that that gets you up. So that's
(10:52):
where I switched to. I switch to saki. It gives
you no hangover and wake up in the morning. And
I could go out because right now it's like, know,
I've lived this life where you know, uh uh, it's
a different type of lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But now I fell in love with this.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I fell in love with something that don't pay me,
you know what I'm saying, And like, you know, everything
in life is about money.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And then when you find that one thing.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
So uh the New York City Marathon is probably my
biggest uh gold.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And I'm ever like you and and and nothing could
make me better but me.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I can never remember a time you don't be running
like that's your thing, Like.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
For long time up in the morning and he jogging.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Are you supposed to videos on your Instagram?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I'm listening to y'all. You know what I'm saying, Like
text us was the Puffcase, Like I ain't gonna.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Lie, I'm supposed to be on my way.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What did I tell you?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I said, I can have my information from you. Like
everything I know about the Puffcakes, I get it from you.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Everything I know about a lot of the hip hop stories,
I get it from you.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
The things you.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Norri sent me a record the other day. Yes, I
don't listened to it yet because I was like, and
it was the first thing he said, almost in your record.
I said, you're back rapping.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You know what I'm rapping on my time? You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
One of the one of the one of the worst
feelings I ever got I ever did, was you know,
getting a whole bunch of money from Melvin Flint. The
Hustler album and then having to make it after you know,
Pun passed away and my father passed away. My mind
wasn't dead, but I got all this money, right, so
I had to like deliver. So I always regretted that.
So there's people who love the Melvin Flint Apple album
(12:36):
that people like. Every day I'm going through the airport
and somebody's.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Like, why would you say that about Melvin Flint?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
And you know, whatever I want now, I want to
make music on my time. Like I got to see
me the other day, not in person, but on the internet,
and he was like, I finally own one hundred percent
of of my catalog and a lot of people don't understand,
like he.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Was crying out like he was. He was he was venting, and.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I now own one hundred percent of everything I do.
You know what I'm saying. But at certain points, like
like so I want to I know this is gonna
sound crazy, especially you had Dame Dash up here speaking
the opposite.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But sometimes I want to work for somebody. Being a
boss is.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Hard, bro, But it ain't nothing wrong with that. That's
what we were saying.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You could have multiple jobs and multiple things that wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I love I love, working for love and hip hop.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I just didn't give them the throwing a candle and
you know, you know, throwing drinks in the figure. I
ain't giving no drama, so they we hire me. But
I love that If I don't show up for work,
then sometimes work don't happen.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
You know what I'm saying. I don't like being the
picture and the ketchup album? Or is it just release
singles when you want.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I'm gonna pay attention to the algorithms.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
You understand I'm saying, like right now, we like, right now,
I can I could an artists could come to drink Champs, right.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I suppose lu Wayne came and a drink.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Chance, I could actually see his algorithms and I could
tell him where he could go on tour. I could
be like, stop going to Milwaukee, bro, you got two
fans of Milwaukee, why are you even there?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Go to Seattle, Go to Utah, go to Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Like I can look at the algorithms, I can see
exactly like this. This is the time where we should
take advantage of having this information. You know what I'm saying.
Now we know now, remember remember back in the days
used to go on tour. I'm sorry to sound like
the old guy, but you know when back of the
days you go on tour, you used to go to Delaware.
When when your fans are in Philly, big up to Delaware.
You know what I'm saying, Big up a Delaware. But yeah,
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actually used to go to Delaware. Okay, okay, but that
was my preference. That's my that was my preference, you
know what I'm saying. But sometimes during the algorithms, just say, Okay, yeah,
you know what, after Delaware, you gotta go to Baltimore,
skip Virginia or or you know what I mean. But
right now you can actually see the algorithms. And I
think this is the cheat code. I think it's the
(14:59):
che for everybody because I did it for artists recent
lead and I was just like, yo, I don't think
you should go here here, here, you don't have you
don't have no movement there, And I think that I
think that artist should take advantage of that. I think
a few years ago you had a hit record that
joint with Pharrell.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Oh you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I just I just I just I'm going to see
Pharrell in Paris. I don't even know, like I don't
even know what me and me and Farrel have nothing
in common but music.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And that sunds how dope music is?
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Just think about it like you we like if I
think of all Pharell rap friends though immediate, they don't
have nothing in common with the clips outside of Virginia. No,
they got a chick in common. They dressed, they were
bell bottoms together. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
they You know what I'm saying, like, yeah, they they
they Comedie, Me and Pharrell have a beautiful like when
(15:52):
we get together, we talk straight music and I love that.
I first I thought it was awkward, but the elder
I get, I was like, Yo, you know what that is?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That is? That is dope. You know what I'm saying, Like,
that's dope.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
And like I don't get none of this lotuis guitar
and ship for free man, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like I'm trying to work my anger. I want to
meet Bernard although you know what I'm saying, I want
to do that, but I'm gonna go out there with
him in Paris.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
He got a whole different sound and when he makes
a different sound, I usually go out there and I'm
a part of that new wave of.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Sounds record and did some more music.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I like Paris anyway. I like, let's say it's like
the manhat fancy saying manhattanough Paris. Let's do.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Let's do a Q and A like you do on Dream.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Let's go. I'm in quick time right now to Jim Jones.
I mean that's that. I mean, let me tell you something,
and I'm gonna say this accurately.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I see where Jim Jones is coming from, like I
can see him because if you're looking at the algorithms, now,
I can see where he's coming from. But you can't
take the legendary status that with Ill Madic has done
just Ill Maadic ill Matic itself has birthed My Deep,
has birthed Component Noriega has birthed Uh so many other
(17:06):
people like just that album, and you can't. And that
time was the tougher time for you to be noticed.
So that's the reason why. But I understand where Jim
is coming from. I understand his stass. Do you understand
that that the kids know him? Now, I'm gonna tell you.
I'm gonna tell you them. I looked up there I
looked it up, like I did. I looked it up
to see, like, who gets searched more In two tenty
(17:28):
twenty five, it's still NOTS. I can't even Numbleus right now,
and this is based off Google.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Hold on, I was just.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Looking at this shit the other day and it's still
NABS by a long shot.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
It's hard to beat NAS, okay, Streaming wise, NAS has
about nine point one million monthly Spotify listeners, while Jim
Jones clocks in around eight hundred and seventy five thousand.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And I fuck with Jim music, but that don't forget.
This is the Google search. This is the Google based searches.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
NAS gets between two hundred and three hundred thousand searches
a month globally.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Jim Jones gets.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Forty seventy thousand searches.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'm gonna be honest with you, all right, we all
know that that NAHS wins. But listen the fact that
we're even having this conversation. That's a win for Jim Jones,
and that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's a win. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I'm a Floyd Mayweather fan, right I talked about I
think he's better than Muhammad Ali. Right, this is me, Right,
I get argued people, but whenever Floyd fights somebody that night,
they're on the same level as Floyd. So that's the
reason why I hate when Floyd taking these exhibition fights.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Because I'm sitting there as a fan.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I don't want Jake Paul to touch my favorite fighter,
like I don't want I don't want him to have
a lucky shot.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
But you don't know, Floyd Mayweb, how do you turn
down thirty forty million?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, exhibition to turn down thirty forty million, but I
know to turn But so what my point of trying
to say is by us even comparing it, that's a
that's a win for Jim Jones. Like I've seen Jim
Jones in the beginning, Like I got footage of Jim
Jones and Cameron. I was filming a pre to Drink Champs.
I have a documentary call well, I still have all
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the footage.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
And Jim Jones was out. It's on the internet. You
could google this. It's it's called what What trailer?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
And Jim Jones is out and Cam and you're sitting
there and Kim Jones like, I don't I don't even
spend money on weed.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I bout five Nichols with a twenty dollars and you
look at that person to the person that he is now,
this man won man, just one like that, and I'm
talking about you got to take him serious like he
was a hype man, a hype man, a person that
was back in to where he is now. I think
that's an accomplishment. I think that's what we should we
should be celebrating. I hate in our culture that we
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have to compare like me personally, I don't do that
on Quick Time with Slime no more. But I was
forced to take out uh, Nicki Minaj and Cardi B
because people I'm talking about the fans were complaining not
their camps.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Their camps were too, but the fans were like, yo,
it's it's like both of them. Yeah, and tell truth.
I like both of them. Like I am a Kendrick
Lamar fan.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Even if you like both of them, you can have
a preference.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, right now you.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Feel like if you play Kendrick Lamar, you gotta throw
away your Drake CD. That's messed up.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I've never been a Drake fan.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Like, even though y'all got a funny relationship.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Right, Like when I'm in the club, I listen to Drake,
but if I'm in the car, I could listen to Kendrick.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That doesn't mean I listen to Drake in the car
and I like Kendrick in the club.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
But you can listen to whatever you want, but you
can still like both of them.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I like both of them, like I don't like you
got purposes and.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
If I give you two people, it's somebody you probably
like more.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yes, of course, of course, But but I do like both,
like you know what I'm saying, Like, yes, I like
I like pistachio more than I like vanilla exactly. But
guess what if you give me up another ice cream
and nobody look at I'm gonna eat that.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
You know what I'm saying, I'm not gonna get playing.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
But let me ask you that the quick. Let's go
diddy guilty and not guilty.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
God damn, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna leave
that in the You know what I mean. I can
tell you this.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I got to tell you from my experience, right, you know,
you know me and you know each other twenty twenty
seven years. There's people who could say, man, I don't.
I don't fuck with Envy, right, I can't say that
to them, you know what I'm saying. Me and Vy
have a separate relationship. All I can say is when
I've ever been around and I've been around Christe some time.
You know, I got my I'm married. I've been married
sixteen years, so maybe I was never really around that.
(21:25):
But I've never saw it, you know, I've never saw
this monster that they describe. When I hear the testimony,
because I got ears and I got Q tips, so.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I hear it. Some of the ship I'll be like whoa,
And then some of it I'm like nah, But I don't.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Know you seeing the freaky first I've never seen.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I really just like you. Every day you go viral
every day.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
When you look back at that.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We saw it, freaking get ready ready for this. I've
been waiting to say this story.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, let's party party, Yeah, yeah, okay, you want.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Us to play it?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
The refreshment very refreshing.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I'll see it every time he goes by.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yes, I look at it too, and I watched the
whole ship too. So all right, here's what happened, Fab
and Jada. Fab's first freestyle you ever heard Fab is
with me, Like, so I basically put Fab on like
in a good way.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I'm playing around. I always say that to him.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
It's a joke, but it's not actually Like, if I
could have I was the hottest dude in New York
at that time.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Clue asked me, can I have my dude Sport come up?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
And I was like sport. He was like Sport and
I was like, that's a dope name, Sport. His name
is fabulous Sport in my line, So we did. So
what I'm saying is me and Fabs have a great relationship.
Me and Jada has a great relationship. Drink chants. We're
hot at the time. You got a budget to fly around.
We're using the revote budget. Be up to revolt everybody there.
Thank you for holding us down. So they're in La.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
We fly to l A.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, La, it was in LA. That wasn't our studio.
If N misses his flight off, I forget what happens.
Boom Jada kissing them are on their promo run. I
like the creative person that I thought I was being.
I messed up, but I tried. I thought I was
being creative.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I hip hop, and I was like, Yo, they're doing
a whole press run. That was for the Fab being
kiss out. They're doing the whole press one. What could
our what can make ours different? You come to the show.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
So he's like, all right, cool, it's Gooomy Loo birthday.
We're gonna go celebrate with y'allo. Now that part you forget.
That's why the candles was there. It was Boody Loo birthday.
Who is a Rastafarian, the furthest thing from anything like
fab Jada Kiss and Diddy arrived at the same time.
(23:54):
Remember Diddy's a surprise. So my friend mister Lee, who's
who is Dominican? What's his slang?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Dotty yol dotty, you old dotty. That's how he talking
Dominicans because they didn't they don't want to say poppy.
Poppy is a Puerto Rican thing, you understand I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
So he sees Diddy say, oo, Dotty, you gotta put
you over here, dotty because we got, we got and
we don't want them to see it. So Diddy got
that in his head. Now Doddy, Now he's just kidding dotty, Doddy.
He thinks that's what we're saying. No what it's not
what we're saying. Is this what mister Lee is saying.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's it. That's it. So so we walk over and
he goes, yo, what's up? Doddy fucks the interview up immediately.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yes, it does all right, cool, But here's what y'all
don't know. When he's saying to Fabulous, yo, why didn't
you party with me no more? Look at us in
front of Fabulous. That's not a rock Fabulous had a
whole coco loso what but Diddy. So when I'm inviting Diddy.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
To co host, he.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Has a whole nother thing. He's coming that fab why
you're not drinking no more? That's what he's saying, why
we don't party no more?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And look he's pointing at it.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
He's like, and Bab, if you look, Bab is almost
trying to throw the VOK away because he's like, and
you know, he had a deal. So that's really what
that was about. Like, that's what And the daddy part
came from mister Lee, and you know, hold on, there
was more to that. He said, I like it when
(25:23):
you scrambling and.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Scrambling in that part.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I can't, I can't. I don't know I was, I was,
I was throwing off to. I was throwing off to
And you know what's the crazy thing about it. You know,
I was sitting on the editing floor.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
He was like, keep all that in.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I was like, fuck it.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I was like, you know what, Well, I really wish
I would have edited it was the Kanye now that
you know, we didn't edit nothing until then. Until then,
But Kanye's was very weird, like because I had never
got what is it, second grade secondhand second hand hate?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I got second I got secondhand hate or so yeah,
but that that's that's that's that's the story.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I mean, the Dinny thing is interesting, like I don't
I don't know whether he's guilty or not, but that
interview was classic before that classic any of this ship.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I played it for him when he was Yeah, I
saw that, Yes, I saw that.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I mean, you know, that's that's been a that's been
a dope thing about drink Champs. It's like I get
to to make mistakes in front the fans live like
in real time, and they robbing me, like you know
what I mean, don't get it twisted.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I love the hate though too.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I love ballance because I've lived my whole career where
you know, you know, people have my back and you know,
just to see like it's a balance to this, you
know what I mean, Like I'm with it because but
that's why I love I enjoy doing what we're doing
with run Champs.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's like it's all positivity.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Like this is the only time I could post something,
somebody would always say something you run it slow. Kanye
shit was interesting too though, because it's like you're not
responsible for what comes out of Kanye's mouth.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
You're a platform, you're a host.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, but I felt responsible, you know why.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
When when I found out that George Floyd people's didn't
like it, I felt responsible because and by the way,
God bless me. I've never said this before, but this
parts that we edited it, Like there is actually parts
that we did edit, Like he compared I said, he
(27:41):
compared George Floyd to Martin Luther King hmm and and
and he was.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Like, what's the difference between George Floyd and Martin Luther King?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
And we were all like we've been at that time,
so we were thrown off, like what And he was
like Martin Luther King had bitches and.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
We were like, oh shit, we knew that had to
be edited right there, like we were like, oh no,
and so we were paying attention to the parts that
we weren't paying attention.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
To everything, like you know what I mean. So and
and he had got me, he had he had called me.
I don't want to like like blame it all on him,
because that's you know, it was. It was a collective.
It just didn't I just didn't know what I didn't
know how to edit at that time.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
We spoke. We spoke.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
We since then we spoke like five six times. Then
it disappeared, and so did he have not spoken to him.
So I'm gonna do a documentary my two years with Kanye,
because I had two years. I just like I thought
he I thought he was listening to me at one point.
He's actually married to advice, and I was I felt obligated.
I was like I was going downstairs.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I was going I was.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Walking away from my wife because I didn't even want
my hunter know that I was giving wife advice and
married to advice. And then he would listen to me
and then he'd just tweet away right after, and I
was like you too a little bit, you know, he
ain't sugar me, I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I never took it like that.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
After you apologize, he.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Said, no, he's a good guy. He said, no, he's
a good guy. That I didn't because I have to
tell you the truth. I understood media, but I only
understood the good side of media at that time. Like
when I come to the breakfast club and I go
to Canada, people will be like your breakfast club, like
it's positive, you know what I'm saying. So this was
my this is my this is my turn of saying,
you know what, it ain't all guts and glary, like
(29:26):
sometimes you gotta go outside and take the gum under
the table and then put put the gum under the
table in your mouth and motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Maybe that was maybe, but you know what I'm saying.
Sometimes you gotta stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Sometimes you gotta scuff your timsisis you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And that's that's that's that's that's.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Pretty much what's your edit process like now after that,
because it was lawsuits and everything his way after that
whole ship.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, indeed it's still done after that. You know, it
was crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I want to big up to to unlikely people who
called me during that time, like Shaq called me, and
you know, Shaq, he's mad calm when he talks you,
all right.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I was like, yeah, he's like I got you.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
And I was like, damn, you know, even if he
was even if he was front and that ship made
me feel good for real called me. And then then
yay he called me and I was like, yo, y
hey man, I feel like I'm about to lose everything.
And he was like interesting, that's what he said, said bro,
And that's.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Pretty much it. So we had to shake it off.
And another part of that was my Jewish friends.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You know. I had Rabbi's coming at me like hey man,
I want to come on the show, and I was
just like, I don't know if I go that far.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
But it was just crazy. It was just crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
And then he doubled down on it, like attention is
attention is is crazy. So he doubled down on it,
and I don't know, I don't know what if he
called back. I think I think I accept on Drink
Champs again. I'll just be more responsible and I won't
drink a bigie.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yeah what business wise for Drink Chaps because you got
the network now, Yeah, I remember it was an early
episode where you were talking about how you learned that
the audio in the video could be sold separately.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
Right now with the network, you're doing that for other people.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
So business wise, like where does norristen as a businessman
giving people advice on things like that?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Absolutely that that was something that that I noticed immediately.
You know, Gods, God bless the dead, colmbat Jack Combat Jack.
I was noticing when I when I when I first
because they were doing podcasts, but I don't think they
were calling it podcast right, podcast? Okay, so a lot
of people give a Sipher Stiles in Rosenberg and they
(31:45):
were they were official I believe hip hop's first podcast.
But I was noticing when I was looking at certain people,
like they would throw our episodes and the episodes.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Would be on what was that, what was that network?
SoundCloud or whatever.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
The audio it will be there, but then the YouTube
would be a kid that ripped the audio and just
put it up there. But it would be the kids YouTube,
but it's their episode. So I would sit back and
I would be like, why are they allowing that to
do it?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
That's happened to the Breakfast Love for years.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I know
that happened to us for two weeks and I shut
that ship down. How oh well, it.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Was different because we used to put we was always
putting video up right, but they would rip the video
and like it would go. You know, I didn't mind
because it was like promo. Yeah, but they would definitely
do that on YouTube. There was somebody making a bunch
of money years a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, so I noticed that.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I noticed that, and then it was like anything subscription based,
you know, I got a resource from but anything subscription
base is not in competition with leanyard, it's not in
competition with television, and it's not in competition with YouTube.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
So I made a genius deal a couple of years ago.
A lot of people didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
But I had Massive, which is nas label handling the audio.
I had Title, which is jay Z's on a subscription level,
and then I had Revolt on a television level, and
everyone thought I was doing some funny ship. This was legit,
this was I mean, they didn't want to share with
(33:20):
each other. I made made them black excellence. No no, no, no,
you say black excellence. We're gonna let it ship out
and we did it.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
We had, we had. It was a it was a
great time, you know what I mean. Yeah, So I
feel like, you know, still.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Doing it now?
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, I mean yes, the video was with yeah, yeah,
pick up everybody at the vault. Man uh revolt took
a hit, you know when did he step down? And
they didn't miss a beat man. They stepped up, you know,
all of the people. They stepped up. I see they
got a deal with AM picked that up. I've been
(34:01):
telling Cam to come over here for a minute. And
so I'm glad, like and they got Brandon Marshall a
sports show. They they're they're really trying to compete with
the Elite network. So I'm I got their back, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And so I'm it.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Why did a woman get mad at you for ordering
the whole bottle of wine?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Oh you want to talk about that? You know?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
No, no, no, no, Well I got the nine one
one call. I should play this ship, right, I got
she called she called the police on me. But we
were we were sitting in Houston's in Miami, right in Miami, and.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
It got busy.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
You know, I've never had these since I had the braids,
I know, MV hating because he can't grow here.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I definitely could grow hate that man.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I couldn't just my brain would be in the middle
of my back.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Well, so I believe she was trying to flip the table,
and you know, I go to Houston's flip the table,
flip the table, you know, like you know, get to
somebody else, because we were finished eating and it was
just another bottle of one and then they were like, uh,
you know they placeally trying to flip the tape our
own two juice bars, so I know, when it gets crowded.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Table for people that don't know, we try to get
you out to get another customer.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
To get another customer on there. We finished our meal
enough to finish our meal, so we just had an extra.
So the lady was like, we're not going to Audero
another bottle. So we was like all right, cool boom
and we stood there.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
So you tried to buy another bottle?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
She said, yo, yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
So they went and got the manager and the manager
took the actual bottle that was there and was like, yo,
I comped it.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I was like, I don't need you to comp nothing
for me, you know what I mean, And she took
it away.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
And this was the most racist thing I've ever so
now that that's being racist in itself, right, But I
was privileged to call for the nine on one call
because she said, I'm calling the police, and I paid taxes. Bro,
I'm legit, I'm legit for twenty seven years. This here
fooled you, ma'am. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
So she called the police. I stood there like a
man that I am.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
The police came and the police one of the officers said,
this is two bottles?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Is this something else going on?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Like he must have thought that this was a secret,
like something that like like maybe I was messing with
her or something on the side, cause he's like, people
don't do this, they don't call the police. He's like,
in fact, the party don't even start to three bottles.
And I'm like, I didn't even get to the three.
This is the police officer. So if I was beligately
enough anything, do you know what happens when you call
a police officer on a black man in America?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
That woman tried to get me killed. She said, I'm
in fear of my life, that's what she said.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Damn. Like I went to therapy, like I'm going to
therapy right now for this, you know what I'm saying,
like like traumatized, yo, Like what if what if these
officers had a bad day and they came and they
just just I was I was. I spoke very calm,
I stood my ground, but I'm still like I'm traumatized
(37:06):
from this, like like I got called the police on
guns out, she said.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
She She said on a nine one one call that
she felt threatened for her life because I ordered a bottle.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Like I wasn't partying, I wasn't on the table, I
wasn't really I wasn't doing none of that. Like I
was actually celebrating, like you know, I was just chilling,
like that's how I celebrate. And I'm traumatized. I don't
want to go in that area. I don't want to
go in that area. Like I'll go all around and
and like to tell you the truth, like I said,
one of the one of the black cops. It was
two black cops that was there. So as I was
(37:39):
describing it, the two black cops to the side, they
one the head guy was a white guy and the
guy under him was a Spanish guy. But you just
seen the two black brothers as I was like saying it.
You just see their head down, like damn, you still
got to go through it. You could make it to
a level in life, and you still got to go
through regular, regular, regular stuff, you know what I'm saying.
(38:00):
So that it really really really really really hurt me.
It really put me in there, and I just got
back to it again. I think, you know, me running, me,
running to get my mind over that, you know what
I'm saying. And now you know, we just ran with
Angela Simmons and we didn't have a permit and the
police pulled over and I was like, god, damn, there Ran.
I was like, holy shit, I forget, like hoh, because
(38:22):
it's just it's just no, I mean the film, the film,
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, but that was a
horrible situation. You know, You've had success in two erarors, right,
had the success in music classic nineties in the podcast
game which Hustle taught you more about survival the music
industry of the media world.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Now, Reggae Throne taught me more.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Reggae Throne was at the time when I entered Reggae Throne,
I was asking artists for their publishing, like you know,
to like doing records with them and giving them publishing
and they didn't. They didn't know what publishing was at
that time. Now they they're very smart, they're very up
to date now. But back then I felt I felt horrible,
like seeing how they were conducting business and seeing like
(39:05):
like like like like like. For instance, like Fabulous doesn't
have to get along with styles P, right, but if
Fabulous and styles P does a tour, Fabulous and styles
people show up every single day, styles would be on
his side of the thing.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I didn't see that in Reggae Thro.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I'm not I'm not saying that they don't do that now,
but back then, Donald Marr would not do a show
with Daddy Yankee. Daddy Yankee wouldn't do a show with
what I'm gonna give you an example. I'm not saying
the exact thing, but he wouldn't do a show with
Winston and yan Dale. I'm talking about back then, and
I'm not saying this is the case. I'll just give
you a example of names. And when I was seeing
that with Reggae thro and it made me step up
my hustle. It made me say that, damn, like these
(39:40):
guys are certain people are ahead and certain people are
light years away. Like I remember bringing Daddy Yankee to
to to to Dame Dash and saying, Yo, this is
the next dude. And Daddy Yankee wanted like two million
at the time, and Dame Dash said, give them Rockaware
it hurt me, It hurt me, and this this, this
man became to be the most lucrative person on the planet.
(40:01):
And then that genre of music turned into the most
one of the most lucrative things. And then that helped
afrobeats and look at looks, so on and so forth.
Like I got the chance to see reggae Throne, I
got a chance to come to America, uh and say, yo,
this is the next genre of music, and people say
you're crazy. Nor So when you asked me what the
most hustle I did, the most hustle I've ever got
(40:23):
was from Reggae Throng because I had to start all over.
I had to start from the bottom of that to
make it to a king which you want to talk
you more about survival. You gotta realize Fat Joe is
one of my closest friends. Fat Joe's had an intervention
with me.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh what they wanted me not to do? Reggae Thong.
They were like, reggae Thon is whack, biggest record, Yes,
he's like.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
EFN had an intervention with me, told me reggae thne
is whack. But now and there were in their respects.
Both of them has recently came up to me and
was like, I'm sorry were they were wrong?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
And but that's cool.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Like when you first to do something, you're always gonna
look a little stupid, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
So but also they're your brother, so they wanted to
they want to were trying to protect It's.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
Not happening at the time, Like where what was the
forward thought? They even make you want to be first
in some of these arenas.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I liked, I liked, I liked it.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I liked I like going in my lane because there's
no traffic in my lane, right, Like I always knew that.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I like I said this on the show before.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I always knew I ain't have the best work, but
I know that I'm gonna stay out longer than anybody.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Right, So what I want to do is I want
to go to a section where it's just my section. Right.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
So when when when mob deep was was the thing
and and and everyone was you know, it was cracked
lines out the door to get a Havoc beat. You know,
I wanted to work with a kid from Virginia that
had a tight shirt on and a choker, and he
winds up being a legend.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Ain't for real.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
But when I worked messed with phar Real, people were like,
why is his shirt so tight? People were telling me,
is that I line?
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Know?
Speaker 4 (42:00):
He got on and I'm like, wow, y'all looking at
this man's features and all this other stuff. The man
is making beats him and chat is knocking it down.
You know, I'm the Nettunes. I'm not just for real,
I'm the Neptunes. So people laughed at me when I
did that. I like being the first, but I know
that when I get there first, people will. I had
the two way first. It's online two way.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
Yeah, putting little Wayne on your putting little money, putting you.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
He's still he's still he's still taking my music right
to this day.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Guy, Let's get into a record. Let's get into this record.
Let me pull it up. I get the name of it, well,
you tell us the name of it.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
No, it's called Win Again, because that's what we're gonna
do we're gonna win again, and there's two features on there.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I guess we'll figure it out.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
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sure you support the Drink Champs network. A mid bleak show,
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right well, Healthy High, it's called Healthy High, Healthy all right, Well,
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Speaker 5 (42:56):
It's Nori.
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