INTERVIEW: Papoose & Claressa Shields Talk 'Bars on Wheels,' Black Love, Remy Ma, Boxing + More

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every day.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Breakfast Club, Finish y'all done morning.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Everybody is d J n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
We are the breakfast club law La Rose is here
as well, and we got a special guest.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
In the building.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
Poos, Pat Poo poo.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
What's up, brother, how you feeling?

Speaker 5 (00:20):
Man?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Maintain can't complain, man, they see you up here in
a long time. I don't even recognize this room everything. Yeah,
this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Patpoos was the artist that usually didn't call, but always
came up and said he had a record.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
He had open door policy all the time.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
That's a fact, man.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
And I think since we moved studios, pappen to know
where we were because he ain't seen in a long time.

Speaker 6 (00:42):
No, that's a fact. Actually, I think it was before
before you came aboard.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Lauren.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, how's everything on?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
On? Everything? It's great, man.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
See you celebrated your daughter's birthday the other day.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, I did McDonald's party. Yeah, she turned seven years old.
That's nice man, beautiful thing. Man, enjoy they get big
fast having so fast man, you know what I'm saying.
So yeah, it's a blessing. I feel like you should
have been did Bars on Wheels? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I did. That's a fact. That's a fact. What is
Balls on Wheels? First of all? Yeah? So Balls on Wheels?
A journey to save hip hop?

Speaker 6 (01:12):
Man, it's me basically taking what I was doing on
Instagram to the next level.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Though.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
I mean so sometimes when I post the videos and
be driving in the car rapping, some people go into
comments and they be like, Okay, but where's it going?
So I'm like, you know what I want to see?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
There you go? So I want a journey to save
hip hop? You know what I'm saying. So that's that's
the name of the project. Man.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
I didn't want to just do it as an album.
I wanted to do it as a short film and
just do something that was never done before.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
You know, you always prided yourself on just being a
pure lyricist, and you know everybody likes to do the
melodies and the vibes war than the bars. What do
you think lyric first rappers need to do to stay
culturally relevant without compromising the craft.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I think just be be themselves. Man.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
I think nobody could do you better than you. You
know what I'm saying, Like, you're the only one with
your DNA, and you gotta utilize that. Sometimes people try
to go outside themselves and you're cheating yourself because you
could have just been yourself and you never know what
the outcome could have been. So to answer the question,
to just be yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
So when you when you write today, are you just
trying to out rap everybody? Are you just focused on
saying something meaningful? Because you've always said meaningful things in
your mind?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Nah?

Speaker 6 (02:16):
Man, it's just I study the crab. I practiced my
craft so long that it comes out like that pause.
You know what I'm saying. I'm not trying to out
wrap nobody. It happens naturally, you know what I'm saying.
To be honest, Is.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
There a lane for that?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Now? What you mean?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Lyricism in rap?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes? Always it's timeless.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
So who would you say that that you look at
that now and say it's okay, I see what they're doing.
Because before you would see in all this like a
nas a j and you could say Kendrick or Drake.
But in the new generation, who do you see That's like, oh,
he's that and can still make hits and still do
the same thing.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Right, Well, it's a kid out of Standing Out. I
never can remember his fucking name. Man, every time in
front of the cameray ask me who I like, And
this nigga is dope as hell, but nobody don't talk
about him.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
But I'm gonna get his name. This kid I like.
I like a couple of the young artists. I like.
I like what you call the man. I like the girl.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
What's the girl name that'd be rapping that you that
you be playing sometimes? No, the other one, Uh, she's
dope's hell. I think mellow Brook. I like her energy.
I like what's the kid out of New York name?

Speaker 7 (03:20):
Man?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I can't remember their names, but I like to kind
of a couple of.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Different the bunch of lyricst Ruben Vincent, you know, Marco
plus Chris Patrick.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Like these dudes can really really rap.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
I mean, like I said, it's timeless, bro, It's timeless,
my opinion ain't now.

Speaker 7 (03:37):
I know the project is all about saving hip hop,
but at the end of your visual, uh, you basically
flip it where it's like you can't save hip hop.
And one of the things that you show without giving
too much of it is the conversation around, Like you know,
the drugs and things that infiltrated the culture. So first
of all, I guess you know, obvious question is why
would you why include that? And then second question to

(03:59):
that is if we can't save hip hop, then what's
your real mission?

Speaker 8 (04:02):
Like?

Speaker 5 (04:02):
How right?

Speaker 6 (04:03):
So you know, I think that played a major part
to the demise about about a culture of our hip hop,
you know, the rest in peace to guys like Mac Miller,
young artists who's just dying from drug overdose. I think
all of those things, man, where they glorified us using
drugs and you got kids oding on it. So I
just wanted to shine a light on that and create
awareness to talk about it. And as far as at

(04:24):
the ending when I said, you know, can't save them,
you know, you gotta watch part two to see the
continue to get the conclusion of that. But that's how
I feel sometimes, man, Like when I say I'm on
a journey to save hip hop, I'm a part of
the culture, Like I lived this for real, So anytime
I step in front of the microphone, that's my goal
to elevate the game. But it feels helpless sometimes, man,
you know what I'm saying, So how.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Do we change that?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Right?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Because of course hip hop took a turn right where
you know, the sellers became the users and that whole thing.
But it was still a place where there was negativity
and hip hop, which kind of hurt hip hop right
didn't have to be od and Brother's getting to jail.
But I felt like there is a strong line of
negative and positive. When it comes to it, you feel
like that positive is not being heard anymore.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Nah, it's not even that.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
I just feel like, you know, I feel like negative
and positive existing life period. Sometimes people put too much
on hip hop, like they gotta stop and if a
cat get too if a cat gets stuck in the tree,
all these rappers rapping about cats getting stuck in the trees,
This is why this happening, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I feel like people blame hip hop for things that
actually go on in America.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
America has a problem with violence and all that.

Speaker 6 (05:34):
When hip hop was positive, I've seen negativity going on.
So I don't blame hip hop for those things. Actually,
I feel like hip hop save a lot of lives,
you know what I'm saying. You know how many jobs
y'all wouldn't even be sitting here for hip hop. So
when people like to blame hip hop for negative things,
you know, I don't look at it like that. I
look at it like we have those issues living in
this country period.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
I saw Robin Roberts asked fifty that about the Diddy doc.
She was like, is this an indictment of hip hop?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
And something like? What hip hop got to do? Nothing right? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (06:02):
See they always dragging hip if you notice that, and
I think no other genre, no. I think part of
the reason why that happened is is because they don't
like that, you know, black billionaires and millionaires are being
made out of it. So I think while we got
our own con putting hip hop down.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
So much, they need to be aware of that.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
How is your perspective on the streets change now that
you're you know, older and just more reflective. As soon
as you walk in and we wanted to remind you
of when you used to put hands on people, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Like that you did.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Nothing to do.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
What was your question perspective when the streets changed? When
when you say streets changed, what you mean though, just
being just being.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
An older person can reflect on, you know, how things
used to be. Things glorify. That's the fact. That's the fact.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Yeah, I respect it, man, I respect and I love growth.
I think it's very important. I embrace it. And I'm
all about positivity. Bro bro saying if you look at me,
you know what I mean, you see me, Like NB said,
I got my history. But when they really put the
light on me, I said, what black love? Something positive? Man,
I don't wear that the street shit on my sleeve.
I don't need to, you know what I'm saying. I

(07:12):
always showcase my talent, you know what I mean, and
something positive about uplifting our people.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
So if you could speak to these young men who
idolized the street life, what would you tell them about
the real cost of that.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Yeah, I would say, don't do it. It's not worth it,
you know what I'm saying. But I always tell my
young brothers who I see in the street, and I
always try to point this out to them. You know,
look at your look at look around at your crew.
And I got to be honest with them. All y'all
not gonna make it out, you know what I mean.
You know how many individuals I grow up with when
I was younger, They're not here no more. I'm sure

(07:44):
you got homies like that. They literally lost their lives.
And at the time when y'all was together, y'all was
hanging out, y'all was running in the street.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
You never thought that they would be gone.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
So I always tell them, you look around, one of
y'all or two or maybe three, y'all not gonna make it.
It might be you. So if you think that's worth it,
continue in the street. But it's not worth it, bro,
So you know, get out of that.

Speaker 7 (08:08):
You mentioned black love earlier. I know Cloris is here
as well, but I wanted to go back to that sumary.
I wanted to go back to that time period because
I feel like for the longest time, prior to your
relationship now, you and Remy were like the emblem of
like black love positivity, and then everything just switched publicly.
And I know you talk about even in hip hop,

(08:30):
like you know how things are thrown on hip hop
and thrown on us negatively. When that moment was happening
publicly with you and Remy, what was pap Who's feeling
because it was so positive for so long and it
kind of just changed everything. What were you feeling as
everything started to you know happen online.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
It was corny. It was corny. It's always corny to
do social media. You know what I'm saying. Who wants that?
Who wants to be a part of the circus. So
I just feel like it was corny.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
You got a tack for black love early on.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
Wow, somebody said it did conversations about what love and
why we had, you know, behind the scenes conversation.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
But you got to tack for it when you got
attacked for why did you think you got attacked for
showing and expressing love to the individual you were with,
Like why do you think that happened?

Speaker 6 (09:18):
And why it's a couple going It's a couple of
different things. So initially when she became incarcerated, they was
killing me.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
They was like, Yo, you holding up?

Speaker 6 (09:29):
Damn, Yeah, he's an idiot, He's dumb. All this bullshit right.
I ain't care though, because that's that was my real
life at the time. And then as it progressed, one time,
Double Excel that reached out to me and they was like, yo,
we want to follow you one day and document your journey,
like what's going on with you? And they followed me
to the supermarket. I went and got groceries for her,

(09:49):
you know what I'm saying. Then I went on the visit,
brought the groceries. They sat on the visit with me,
and they put out that article. And they put out
that article, it kind of changed. The outlook kind of
changed for a high second. Everybody was like, Wow, they
couldn't believe it, and it was cool. I kept going.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
But what you kind of talking about is when were
the love and hip hop and change? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Yeah, well you had mixed. It was mixed, you know
what I'm saying. Like the women were embracing it. But
I go through the toll booth and I go get
to do my money because they ain't have the right
And he'd be like, oh, man, you're fucking up my household.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Man, my woman to.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, woman, I need to be more like you. It's
a change, you know what I'm saying. So the dudes
was always.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Hating, but the women, older women, all different age groups,
they always embraced it.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
And then you did your your own spin off, the
Black Love spin off, which you guys have more creative
control over at the time, right, Yeah, Why so if
you felt like kind of the tide was changing when
you guys got on reality TV.

Speaker 9 (10:48):
Why was it important for you to do that like
second installment?

Speaker 6 (10:51):
Because you know, the opportunity was there to show more
of us. You know, when you're on Love and Hip Hop,
you just got like a segment, you know what I'm saying.
So it was just that, and people wanted to see
more of us at that time, so we was like,
all right, cool, let's do it. I think we did
the holiday special first and then it went from there.
But going back to what you were saying earlier, like
when I first shot it, I was like, oh, they
about to kill me man when this shit come out,

(11:12):
because people never saw that side of me, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
But it was surprisingly people embraced it.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
I think the world was tired of seeing our culture
getting put down, drinks getting thrown on each other, and
just the bad stigma on our relationships.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, I'm saying, you.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Ever regretted at all putting that much of your life
on camera?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
I don't regret it at all because it was real.
It wasn't like nothing was rehearsed, nothing was scripted. People
just saw what was going on at that time.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
But you know the thing with it is like I
get it.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
But now people are so dialed into your life, so
now there is no moment where it's like, hold on,
let me figure this out. Because now they're like, Nah,
you showed me this, you showed me the baby, you
showed me the one year old party.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
You showed that, you showed me this.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
But then when it's like when you say, you know what,
I need to take a break, They're like, nah, you can't.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
No, No, I love it.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
I'll tell you why. See, this is what happens with celebrities.
And I kind of said this before. When it's all good, right,
when when y'all buying INTI with careers, y'all watching the
TV show, y'all come into the performances.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Then parents is to walk throughs.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
I bring you in the room where my daughter is born,
You come to the wedding, you see everything right, okay.
And then soon as something happened with these celebrities, what's
the first thing they say, y'all don't know me like that.
Y'all don't know what's going on in my life.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
So I'm glad that I gave y'all an open book.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
So when someone wants to lie on when you guys
had been there all along, y'all seen this shit, So
that's all, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I embraced that how much is too much to tell?
We signed up for this, bro, We sign up for
You can't.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
You can't want people to You can't open the door
to your life and then want to close it when
you when you don't do some bullshit and you don't
want nobody to know what's really going on. So that's
what's happening with these celebrities. But I'll tell you this, though,
I got a new queen of my life, man, and
she's one of the best things that ever happened to me.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I think we know.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Do you think hip hop does enough to model healthy
love and accountability between men and women?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
What you mean just in general?

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Like, do you think we show enough of those type
of healthy relationships?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
No?

Speaker 6 (13:13):
I think honestly, and I don't want to do the
Soldier boy, but I think after we did it, it
became cool. I feel like people were ashamed to show
love to their significant other. It was hot, and then
once you know, our situation transpired, everybody wanted to be
in public with the significant other, which is a good thing,

(13:33):
and I was proud of that because we need powerful
black families to stick together.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
To your point, though, you know that that was a
thing like they would literally be like, don't tell nobody
you got a girl friend.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
That was an industry thing. I see where you're going.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Like even when you when you're especially a major label,
you had to seem available. Wow, y'all don't want them
to know we got the family structure, you know what
I'm saying. So I think it was always cool to
hide that, and rappers were scared to death to show
it because they don't want the side chick to know
that they got a wife at home, so they you know.
But like I said, it became cool after that, after us.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
I think that hurt hip hop too because it didn't
allow people to grow and tell their real stories.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
You couldn't be you who you really were.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Even me, I kept to the buck with y'all when
when they first showed it, and they showed it, I said,
they're about to kill me, you know what I'm saying.
But it didn't happen like that.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Now, there was one thing that came out of that
man And you said, you wrote ninety percent of Remy's raps,
including conceited, Was that true?

Speaker 6 (14:31):
No comment, man, you know what I'm saying. I wish
her the best, and that's that's what I'm gonna say.
You know what I'm saying. Like I said earlier, I
never wanted to be a part of that, but sometimes
your hand is falced. You know what I'm saying. You
gotta you gotta do what you gotta do. But I
wish you the best, man, You know, I mean, I
got it. I got an amazing best friend of my
life right now and we're happy.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Man. Can you pull up pull up a chair for somebody?
Pull up a chair man.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Somebody said you that was a depressing media. It was
a hard time because we know y'all.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
No, but y'all know us. But sometimes people pretend like
they don't know us. That's what get on my nervous.

Speaker 9 (15:09):
I think it's like what happened like m hm.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
I mean, like I said, y'all was there every step
of the way.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Y'all was there.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
When I was riding up there to the prison, y'all
seen me fighting court officers, getting thrown out of the
court room. It was it was in the newspapers. You
know what I'm saying, y'all seen everything. How can I
come to y'all and say something didn't happen. Y'all gotta stop, man, Like,
come on, So that's.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I think the time.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, I know, for myself, I just wanted y'all to
fix it because I've known y'all so long and not
fixed the relationship, just the friendship the parents. To just
fix that part, that's what that's that was the most
important thing, right.

Speaker 10 (15:46):
That that takes time. Like it's a divorce. It's not
something that just happens overnight, you know what I'm saying.
But people, life don't stop because of that.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (15:55):
It's papers, it's time. It's all this stuff that got
to happen. But at the end of the day, we
move forward with our lives.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Like like I said, I wish it the best. We
got some great, amazing things going on, and like I said,
this is my best friend right here.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Man. We we living our life.

Speaker 10 (16:09):
We've been together over a year and a half now,
it'll be two years next year in September.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
We at the end of the year.

Speaker 10 (16:15):
Some of this stuff is just so old, you know,
it's so old to talk about, to bring up, to
keep harping on it. It's like they're separated. She got
somebody too, Like, don't act like it's just over here,
like she's happy, We're happy, and that's it.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
Like I don't know what is it?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Cordial?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Are you just like nah? I'm just it is what
it is.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
I'm always cordial, Bro, cordial. I'm cordial with everybody. Like,
come on, bro, I'm not problematic.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Man. You know, y'all know this stuff.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
Man, y'all let me just go out and say why
would something happen? Yeah, like y'all know people like av
I know and be like cause and we got dogs.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
He's a DJ he from Queens.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
So when somebody come over here and say, oh I
saw him be doing x Y, I've been watching this
nigga twenty some years. I never heard that next to
his name. Like certain things they can't put on your jacket,
you know what I'm saying. I know, Charlamagne, he speaks
about mental health, you know what I mean. He's into
different things. He's into his relationship with his wife. So
certain like if I've been watching this man fifteen years,
like certain things on my heir Charlamagne did that man

(17:23):
a rap if a nigga tell me a nigga was
up here rapping, and Charlamage told the niggas his face,
you whack.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
But I think that's I'm gonna say he did that.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
But you can't hold me finish.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
You can't just come with some ship left field that
I've never heard twenty years of me following this man
career since he was on Wendy Williams right, Nah that
that don't go with him.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Papoost punching somebody in the face. I believe you keep
doing that.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Wait, like to your point and Champ, I know you
mentioned like it's old, but I think the reason why
people bring it back up is because we saw so
much and we knew you, and then whenever everything happened,
there's claims of like you cheating and like all these things.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
That's what I'm saying, So like if it's a new artist,
I can get it.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
We don't know them.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
All these years inconcerrated.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
That shit never been on my name ever that was
out here with me. I was coming to the old studd.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
That is a good point that path making, because come on,
all the years she was incucerated we never heard of.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
On the street all of a sudden boom out of nowhere,
an asteroid hit, like come on.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Man, So that didn't happen because she said she had
got into it with somebody over some allegations.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
And like I said, man, I wish you had the
best man me speaking about that. It goes into like
a whole and I ain't here to do that, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (18:42):
And Claris, I know on your side of it, like
people always like push back because it's like he's still
married and he's this and he's that.

Speaker 9 (18:48):
You're like, they're separated.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
We're happy for you trying to move forward in this
new relationship. Like how tough is that when that conversation
comes up for you?

Speaker 5 (18:55):
I don't know why they act like people don't get divorced.

Speaker 10 (18:57):
It's the craziest thing to me, Like everything, the most
thing that happens in life. People are like, we don't,
we don't understand. It's breakups and relationships. You can never
You're never gonna break up with your family because they're
your blood. You gotta deal with them, your mom and
your daddy, your crazy sister, your outrageous cousin. But when
it comes to relationship that breaks up. All the time
marriages and all the time divorces happen.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
I don't know why.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
It's like, oh, divorces is impossible, when they don't when
it's divorce foul public, whatever the heck that was. It's like,
and we're together all the time, every single day, ebony, awards, fights,
walk outs at home, cooking, like I don't, I don't

(19:40):
know it just maybe it's just it's it's actually this.
It's harder for the fans that followed them to let
go than it is for them.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
I feel like God, I will say this though, I
will say this because I don't think this is wrong
towards anybody. I will say this. None of that shit
was true, man, none of it. All of that was forghazy.
I come from a big family. Like if you if
you really follow me and you're not just around for
the gossip. You see my daughter, you see my sisters,

(20:10):
you see my mother, you see so many beautiful women
in my life who loved me to death. I mean
not only because I was there for them when they
need me. I fought all they battles, don't I don't
just do it for the person that I'm with I
do this for my children like I don't. I've had
to put hands on my daughter's boyfriends to protect them.
I'm being honest. I'm a protector, bro and a provider.

(20:31):
So anything outside of that, it doesn't it doesn't go
with me. Like you know what I'm saying, it's very impossible.
My grandmother had seventeen kids, man, so I got over
ninety cousins, a very big family, and my family looked
to me for those things, you know what I'm saying,
as a provider and a supporter and all of that.
So it's hard to put that on it. It's like
it doesn't go.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
But I think the main thing, I think it doesn't
matter when the fans follow your life, and like you said,
we don't know what goes on.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
We only know what we see.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
And then all of a sudden on Tuesday, we start
seeing in these these tweets and these these Instagram posts
we like.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
But that's not how it happened though. See that's what
that's another that's what I know.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
But you said it earlier, right, you said, Yo, pat
putting hands on somebody, Right, y'all seen all this ship
happening right in front of your face, none of this
was said when that's all this was going on.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
See that y'all making me get into this show.

Speaker 7 (21:21):
I don't want to do it trying to figure out
clarity because there's like so many questions because it's like
one day, literally you just wake up and and boom, we're.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
That's not what happened, though, I don't know why y'all
starting it from there.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
Okay, so let's back up, because what you're referring to
is the allegations that she was cheating.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
I don't even want to. Like I said, I wish
her the best. I got nothing bad to say about it.
But that's not where let me make that.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I think, y'all.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
I think y'all, y'all just want to get.

Speaker 10 (21:51):
Everybody knows that before I came into the picture.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Now it's just these two in the picture. Y'all know
where it started.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
It had.

Speaker 10 (21:59):
I had nothing do with anything as far as when
me and him got together, he was he was already separated,
so y'all know what happened before that.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
So what I got the green I beat rappers up
the weed platforms out now.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
Hip hop to tell me that when when the day
she reference you turn.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Tell me, that's the first day you heard about this.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
You ain't see hold on, hold on, hold on second,
you ain't see everything that was going on for a
whole year before that, the whole ship.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I'm gonna tell you why why y'all only wanted to
start You.

Speaker 9 (22:38):
Said you didn't want to go there.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Confusing because I didn't even know how that was going on.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Before before Clois was in the picture. You hear rumors,
but then when you look at your lives, you don't
see any you don't see any turbu turbulence. So it's
not like you see anything or you hear anything.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
You know, held it damn.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Even when I heard rumors, I would reach out to Joe,
just like YO, just checking on to make sure they
just checking on the good.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
He was like, Bro, they good.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
So I didn't hear it too. But so you know
with rumors, because they say rumors all the time. I mean,
the room with Seana man gave we know not I
don't know. But so it's like when you didn't y'all
didn't confirm, but deny, I'm like, all right, cool. And
then when that day happened, the tweets, it still was
like but tweets before.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
We heard that Pap put hands on the guy.

Speaker 7 (23:24):
In the battle, heard that, yes, and even that I
tried to figure that out. I reached out to certain
people that were facilitating things, and no one would comment
on it, so we can't.

Speaker 9 (23:33):
It's like what do we speak to?

Speaker 7 (23:34):
And that's why now you're here and we're asking you, like, okay,
so what was before that? Because there were allegations that
she was dealing with the block Easy, the black captain
prior to us seeing them together, whatever the situation is
now with them, was that what was happening?

Speaker 6 (23:48):
I mean, you said it yourself, You heard that, you
saw allegations. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not
here to bash the man say anything about it.

Speaker 10 (23:53):
He not the type of talk. Pap don't do a
lot of talk. And like I got a way bigger
mouth than him. Okay, I mean, like whatever you want
to say, whatever you want to put it. But he's
not like that, Like he's he's really like about like
family and friendship and fixing things like he's he's really
about that, you know what I'm saying. Like us as women,

(24:16):
well women, yeah, we will tell it all because I
because I love the truth, you know what I'm saying.
I put the truth out there. And the thing is
like when't like come to the truth is like he
likes to keep his stuff and handle his stuff privately,
you know what I'm saying, and respect this stuff.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
And he's always gonna be like that. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (24:37):
He's not ever gonna change even now, Like this whole
conversation is like y'all getting a lot out of him
because he don't do this.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
He don't because he's moved so forward.

Speaker 10 (24:46):
We're like just so happy and he just whatever happened happened.
We all know that you go through things through it.
We all been through a breakup before. You may not
been through a divorce, but you've been through a breakup,
been with Mike for a long time. You gotta go
through own stuff. He's healed, he's moved on, and he's
just in a better place. So it's just like with
that when people put stuff on you, they're like, oh,
you want to defend it, But.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Even him, he don't even want to defend it because
he like he is who he is.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
Yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, who wants
to be a part of the circus man. Nobody when
you ever saw us doing that happened before I had a.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Movie coming out. I definitely didn't want to be a
part of it.

Speaker 10 (25:22):
My movie dropped just a couple of days on Christmas.
Christmas Day, I was like what, I'm.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Like, Oh myn I was losing my mind. I'm like,
what's going on here?

Speaker 10 (25:33):
So even me, I'm like, let me just get far
away from this as possible. But I'm still with him,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
So now here, Clarissa like, promote that movie.

Speaker 10 (25:44):
But it's like, you know, okay, all right, boom, I'm
in a different I'm in a different text bracket than
that to have to use that to promote my movie.
My movie did well, it's still doing well. It's upon
prime video. You haven't seen it, the Fire Inside. But
I don't want my name connects to stuff like that.
I never have before. This thing with him, you never seen.

(26:06):
You might see me into a couple of little beefs
online with a couple of fighters and stuff like that,
but you never seen nothing about like relationship.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Being with a dude who got somebody. You never seen that.
I'm my type of woman, But man, with me, He
with me. I don't do second place. I never have.

Speaker 10 (26:22):
I got two Olympic gold medals, nineteen World championships. Why
would I have to be second place to another woman?

Speaker 5 (26:29):
For like, what do I look like? You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
So look that's my thing of like bars on Wheels.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
The Journey to Save Hip Hop out now produced by
my brother Sean too Males by the way, he did
the whole project.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
What is Win? What is WIN is when a record label?
Is it a sports Yeah?

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Both Win Records as a record label, and we do
a lot of great things.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Man.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
Actually we've been doing a lot of concerts, So a
lot of concerts you see with a lot of your
favorite rappers.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
You might not know it, but it's by Win Records.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
We got some amazing artists shout out to Kodiza, the
whole family, my brother Big Rulee, and recently we just
did the big deal with Clarissa, you know what I'm saying,
along with Salita Promotions. So we're doing a lot of
big things.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I want to ask you know, you talk about it
before that Patpoos is different than anybody you ever dated before.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
What makes him different?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
What's different from anything that you've seen before as far
as himself, what did you see different that you didn't see?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
You a picture is gonna be your fault.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I am not talking about it.

Speaker 10 (27:27):
Just he's like he's like the cheat code to life almost,
you know what I'm saying. It's like he been at
the top, he signed big deals, you know what I'm saying.
He's had kids, he's he's done the whole thing. And
then it's like when it comes to our relationship, it's
just like he's already know what to do and he
know how to deal with me. I'm not easy to

(27:49):
deal with and I and I can say that because
I seclude myself from like friends and family and everybody.
Just keep everybody away from me because where I'm trying
to go on my life is so big. It's like
anybody get in my way even a little bit, I'm
like a dog.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
I'll bite your head off. He knows how to keep
me calm.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
It's the first time you haven't seen jealousy in a
relationship because you are a star.

Speaker 10 (28:11):
I have seen jealousy in a lot of my relationships,
but but not but not here. It's probably because he
both pisces the birthday March fifth, Mine March seventeenth.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
But it's like he's just so supportive. I like that.

Speaker 10 (28:25):
You're like, he's a nice guy, but he also a
guy like that you don't mess with. I had a
guy who talked like he can fight, but he can't fight,
like he can rap, but he also too and put
you on your ass if you need to.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
I don't gotta. I don't gotta.

Speaker 10 (28:37):
Whenever I'm when I'm walking with Pepper's like he my
security guard. You know what I'm saying, I just be chilling.
I wish the motherfucker would.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
I think both of y'all, you know, dominate in disciplines
right that demand extra focus, Like you need to be
extra focused for what you do.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
You got to focus for what you do.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
How do you support each other's greatness without competing for space?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Naturally? Man? Naturally.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
I've been a fan of her before I even met her,
Like I'm I'm a big boxing fan, so when I
met her, I was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Shit, that's Missus Shills.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
So the fan, to be honest with you, like the
fan in me is like, damn wow, I gotta make
sure I can help and add on because you know,
we're dealing with knowledge yourself. We always you got to
add on, you know, I need to add on in
many ways as I can. But then when I'm able
to meet her and fall in love with it, it's
like a whole different level of cameron and concerns. So

(29:25):
I naturally want to see her win and I feel
like it's the same vice versa.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Yeah, I'm like a little assistant.

Speaker 10 (29:31):
You know, when he's shooting his video to the bars
one wheels, I brought him full you know, I helped
him chain it to his police outfit. I'm getting behind
the scenes footage. I'm Jack made you need anything. I'm
more of like people got to understand when it like
come to relationship, when it's your time to have your
like to have your time, that's your time, and when
it's the other person's time, it's nothing wrong with you

(29:51):
taking a backseat to your person because like you're really
right there, like you beside them anyway.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
But it's like the better he do, the better we do.
The better I do, the better we do. It's a
team thing.

Speaker 10 (30:02):
I don't know why, this whole relationship thing, I get it.
You know, women want to be pampered. All this stuff
like that. But I'm in a lane in the field
in boxing where I've always taken care of myself. When
I say taking care of myself, get my hair done,
get my nails done, buy myself the clothes I want,
you know, I've always been a lane like that. I'm
happy that now he do a lot of it right,

(30:24):
but it's still like, I'm still gonna take care of
take I'm still gonna take care.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Of myself, and I require what I require.

Speaker 10 (30:31):
So it's like, oh, he don't get my nails done,
I'm not getting my nails done.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
Like what type of crap is that?

Speaker 10 (30:35):
Like I've always had my own and he got his own,
and together we just like just feed off of each other.
Like when he goes to the studio, he may be
going to a studio for him, but I'm sitting back there,
I'm watching him. I'm like, well, I'm trying to I'm
doing my little rapping stuff too, so I'm learning. And
then I'm like, hey, I gotta be when you get
done with that, will let me go in here and
do this one. And it's like some of the stuff
I do is good, and then some stuff he just

(30:56):
was like what I'm saying, and we do so much together,
like he hit the pass, like y'all always seem holding
the past with me, But that's because he don't want
you to see what he really working with.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Wh while I got to ask no disrespect pad right
here you go.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
You issued one hundred thousand dollars open challenge in December, Yeah,
Christmas years ago. How many rounds I gotta make it
out around with you to get a hundred thousands?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I got six kids, So how many rounds I gotta
make it out? I gotta win? Run a couple of rounds.

Speaker 10 (31:36):
It was like these girls like, well, how much do
I get if I don't get knocked out? How much
do I get if you know I do? Okay, It's
like we're giving out participation awards now, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I gotta win.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
You got to.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
I hate how people disrespect the science of boxing. You
don't play boxing, like you don't just get in that
ring with somebody you can die and you know what's
gonna happen tomorrow night, Anthony Joshua, and like that really
shouldn't that should not happen.

Speaker 10 (32:08):
But boxing is in a weird space, Like boxing is
in the space right now, that if Lauren woke up
tomorrow was like I want to fight Clarista, they'd be like,
let's go pay from you, let's do it.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Like the Popularity contest, it was about the sweet science.

Speaker 9 (32:22):
Like you said before, what's the craziest?

Speaker 11 (32:24):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (32:25):
Like, because you announced that you got to do the
four fights for eighty million dollars?

Speaker 9 (32:28):
Right? Eight fights?

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Like I like when you mess him, say eighty six,
I always do it? Were begging into last time?

Speaker 7 (32:36):
She was that girl eight eight million dollars, right, So
what's the craziest, Like, Hey, I think I'm interested in
doing this fight with Chlorisa. I saw that she had
some fights that she got to get out. The way
offer that you've had come you way, Like, who's the
most random person that we'd never think of? It's like
a boxer, don't even got to be a boxer because
now it's influences getting in the ring.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Oh I don't get crazy cause like that, like people
really don't want to get in there with me for real?

Speaker 8 (33:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (33:03):
No, no, I don't.

Speaker 9 (33:04):
Like I saw some of the Zoos girls trying to
you know.

Speaker 7 (33:08):
Not want to get trained, okay, because I thought, while
we want to get trained, who which which girl was it.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
We talked about the real fighter, the Zoo's girls.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
One of the Zoos girls that was trying to act
like she wanted to get in the ring. And then
it turned around where you were up there training somebody else.
I think you were training a diamond body. Who were
you training?

Speaker 9 (33:30):
You were training? I thought there was.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
I thought that that started because a girl was acting
like she wanted to get in the ring with you,
and you were sitting there and get you insurance she
wasn't gonna do it.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
No, I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 10 (33:40):
So this whole one hundred dollars has been around for
like years. I think I talked before I got like
a deck, it's going to be a reality TV show,
like I got like a whole thing.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
So there's been a thing for a while.

Speaker 10 (33:53):
Every time I mentioned it, you get like a bunch
of girls who never fought saying that they want to
fight me, A couple of batty saying, oh, I love
to try it, but can you train bah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
But the only girl who's ever really.

Speaker 10 (34:04):
Like tried to get inside the ring with me and
like disrespectfully was the girl I beat up on you.
Was the girl I beat up at the gym that
one time, and honestly, if I can go back to
that time sometime, I think in the end of the world,
everybody got such a big mouth, right because y'all can sit.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Up in here.

Speaker 10 (34:24):
You got, you got security after the door, maybe you got,
but either way go they can just run their mouth
and don't and don't get touched.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
They go in the room.

Speaker 10 (34:32):
And set their camera and talk about everybody call them out,
they name, talking about their fans, about they clothes, their hair,
and don't nothing happen.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
The thing about me is I'm a real fighter.

Speaker 10 (34:42):
So I felt like I needed to make an example
out of her, and I've opened the door. Like, listen,
if any girl come to the gym, or any girl
want to fight me for the honey k you come
to my gym, the fastest way to get your ass
whooped is the cut of my gym while I'm training
for a real fight. That's the fast way I have
right here.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
In thirty seconds thirteen we see she looked crazy.

Speaker 10 (35:03):
But it's like, if any other girl think that they
gonna come, I want to set an example, like no
matter where we're at, listen, I don't want to put
my hands on you because I know what I can do.
But I'm not taking disrespect from nobody because these these
hands do fly, and up at heavyweight, I've been gona
put a bitch on her back. So I don't like
people like that. So it's like that was that reason
that I did that, And if I can go back

(35:25):
in time, I think I'll do it again.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
I only ask your fight that you got coming up
on February twenty second. But what happens what happens in
the Jake Paul Anthony Joshua fight.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
I told Pap last night.

Speaker 10 (35:35):
I said, listen, I know boxing is in a weird space,
but I swear to God if Anthony Joshua lose.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
To Jake Paul, which I think there's there's no way
in hell.

Speaker 10 (35:48):
Yes, like did you see this Princess and Donald, But
I'm saying, if if Jake Paul get his hand raised
over Anthony Joshua, I'm flying to the UK and myself
and I'm punch Anthony josh was hard.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
I fucking can.

Speaker 10 (36:03):
Jesus like you you you better not. It's gonna be
so like one. I don't understand how this fight is happening.
It's like just like in my mind, I'm like, how
is this happening?

Speaker 5 (36:12):
But the money, yeah, the money. But it's like, come on, man, come.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
On, like money, how can you turn today again? Ninety
million a piece, that's what they say. That's what they
say the person.

Speaker 10 (36:25):
Don't you what's the reason for fighting if you make
a ninety million piece? I mean I make ninety million,
y'all not gonna see me no more?

Speaker 1 (36:32):
It's over. You tease us a little bit though.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
We really thought that you were going, yeah, that you
and Layla were playing in this together.

Speaker 9 (36:39):
Wet the videos.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I thought thought was like, oh, they're gonna announce it
the last video. They're gonna say they fighting this date and.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Then yeah, I seen.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
I would have loved that.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
And it was a good setup.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
But you know, you know it turned down fifteen million,
you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 9 (36:56):
Still nothing like no, listen, I.

Speaker 10 (36:59):
Don't fight in February tween second against Franchion Cruise Desern.
This is our rematch. Franchion Cruise is a great fighter,
very very very skilled. I think some of y'all on here,
do y'all know chagrenever absolutely well, well, well, well, hell yeah,
Franchise be Shda Shagren.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Keep that in mind.

Speaker 10 (37:17):
We want to erase history, but history don't e race,
especially when it's in black and white. That's like saying
I don't got two Olympic gold medals. But today she
got her ass by Franchion Cruise, and now I'm fighting
Franchion Cruise. And I think she didn't want this fight
to happen between me and Franchise because now it's sheds
light on You lost. Already stopped talking like you undefeated
and you a star player when you was warming the bench,

(37:39):
coach put you in and you fucked the game up.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
You lost.

Speaker 10 (37:46):
And guess what she's gonna get her ass with like
the rest of them shady should Oh she all husky
and all that, man, please, I know boxing for real,
And when she was one ninety, I was kicking her ass.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
So I don't know why she thinks that. Oh now
she would drink Paul and she's husky, and.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
It's a confidence and how you deal with I'm telling you, bro,
I'm being honest with you. I think because she got
people that love and support her, like she do great
things with children, all kinds of stuff, right, But I
think her haters I think they're intimidated by her confidence.
I think it's a beautiful thing, man, just to see
a woman that confident. I hope the next generation be
inspired to be confident, like I always walk humble, and

(38:34):
she tried to get me out of that, but I
really do it. Mind her confidence, man, I'm watching it.
I'm like, this is why they're mad killed me on.
I stay in my lane, man, I'm not some of them.

Speaker 10 (38:50):
I really have to show you what I got for real,
because when I get inside, dreaming sparks like no name,
no face, So it's like I love him.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Dearly, like this is gonna put him on his ass
hit me back, for sure.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Was really crazy.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
When I saw her sparring with men and one of
the men dropped you, I'm like, oh, they're not taking
it easy on her, banging.

Speaker 10 (39:11):
I love that you brought that up, right, And I'm
gonna speak on this briefly. Out of nineteen years at
my whole boxing, out of my whole boxing time, boxing.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
I've been dropped twice, both in a week of each other.

Speaker 10 (39:23):
First week was by that guy who he talking about,
who gloves was worn and he barely had no padding
in them, right, and then the next week when I
fought my World championship right against Hannah Gabriels. Those are
only two times in my career where I was dropped. Ever,
So now that we're speaking about that, this dude that
I sparred was a nobody, right and everybody somebody, but

(39:44):
he was a nobody. I already had pieced him up
the week before, and I hate that people think. And
then so so you said it correct.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
I got dropped.

Speaker 10 (39:51):
I didn't get knocked out, you know from from the
footage that people be posting, Oh, I got dropped, and
I was laying there one I probably never been hit
that hard with like a bare knuckle before, and that's
what happened. But as I got back up, I spart
another guy four rounds, Harold, who was highly ranked a
one hundred and forty pounds on hundred and forty seven pounds.

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And then when I got out, I sparred the first
guy first who dropped me. He dropped me like in
the third, fourth round he got out. I sparred Harold
four rounds, and then he got in with Harold and
sparred Harold when he got out, and he sparred Harold.
Harold said Hey, man, what's up with your gloves? Because
you wasn't hitting like that last week. We all had
sparred the week before. So now that he said that,

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I go up to the guy myself and I grabbed
his gloves and I'm like, what the hell is Literally
nothing in them?

Speaker 5 (40:39):
It's like warn gloves. It's literally no pattern.

Speaker 10 (40:42):
So now, me, as a fighter who's been doing this
all my life, I done sparred against the biggest and
the heaviest men you can think about. I've never been dropped,
whybol or none. So now to get dropped like that,
it was like, sum this up and it was something
with his gloves. I don't have to lie about that.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Listen, you don't have to make no excuses. It was
a man keep.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
Doing you no.

Speaker 10 (41:04):
But it don't matter though, because since the time I
was eleven till now I'm thirty years old, I've sparred
ninety five percent men in my in my sparing. Pap
have seen me spar dudes. Pap see some of these
dudes warming up. He looking at me like he was
talking about here protect her. He looking at the dude
like you better hit my girl, but I'll be in there.

Speaker 7 (41:23):
Hey.

Speaker 10 (41:24):
They be coming with it, and I'll be coming with
I send them all my sparing clips and because if
he's not there, but I'd be like, hey, today was
hard and then I and then I sparted like spart
of guys.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Next like the next couple of days. Send the footage.

Speaker 10 (41:35):
He's like, damn, you figured it out, because that's what
I do as like a as like a fighter. So
don't ever this dude going around with Oh he knocked
me out, he dropped me.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Everybody feeling sorry, Oh I.

Speaker 10 (41:45):
Got fighters get dropped and sparing. It's not nothing new
to the game. Just because I'm a woman sparring against
some against some men. And then it happened one time.
It didn't detaar me from sparring other men. That happened
when I was going for my second World Old title.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
She pieced him up. He came back with some of.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
He from a different culture. Him getting beat up by
a woman.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
He was embarrassed, so him and his coach conspired with
those gloves and it's evidence and it's people that was
there who know about his gloves. So it's like me
having to talk about it is like I'm not embarrassed
because of that.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
I still spark men. Now, I still get ready for
my fights.

Speaker 10 (42:26):
I'm a nineteen time world champion, and I've accomplished more
than that she will ever accomplish.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
In his life. I'm not I'm not ashamed of that.
So when they bring that up, I kind of just
laugh it off.

Speaker 10 (42:35):
But it's like, I wish one of these trolls that
be talking like that were really like said to my
face because I dropped.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
That as what are we talking about it?

Speaker 7 (42:46):
I'm gonna be on X, but I be seeing it
they be on you.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
A totally different perspective. When I watched that video, I'm
like Clarrissa, she spils with men.

Speaker 9 (42:57):
Because when you're in reality, these people don't be.

Speaker 10 (43:01):
Some of these guys are so intimidated that I'm just
so strong and so confident and so great at what
I do. They're intimidated that they think, like, dang, if
I wanted to fight her, she could probably beat me up.
That's intimidating for a man. I don't go wrong, like,
oh I beat up these men? What's up with you,
Charlotte Mane?

Speaker 9 (43:16):
You want to fight?

Speaker 2 (43:16):
You want to fight the Jay Andy? What's up to
Keith Thurman? And who is the other person I forgot
recently recently.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
So look, they asked me questions and I answer them.

Speaker 10 (43:27):
The question a long time ago was who is a
male fighter I think I could beat in a boxing match?
I said, Sean Porter and Keith Thurman.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Why.

Speaker 10 (43:38):
I like they boxing skills. They both big strong men.
I respect both of them. But when I look at
how they boxing unboxing, I'm like, man, if I can
shake and bake and go to the body and do
my little stuff, I feel like I'm better skilled than them.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Am I stronger than them?

Speaker 7 (43:52):
No?

Speaker 10 (43:53):
But I mean, have I really ever been stronger than
a lot of people. It's like strength is not my
thing when it comes to a fight, strength is not
my thing. It's about skilled precision and I know how
to win. But I got some power too. But no,
I'm not trying to knock everybody out like I'm a
I'm a boxing you know what I'm saying, and move
around and move my head like I'm pretty skilled in

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all the departments. That's why they call me the female TV.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
When you fight, its gonna before the baby, after baby,
after the baby before.

Speaker 10 (44:23):
Okay, fight before I want to get I want to
fight franch on and then we can get your daysha
after that, that'd be a great party.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Franchi February. What's your days?

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Some of hey, you know whenever she gets unsuspended, but
she's spendful.

Speaker 10 (44:40):
Oh all right, I'm sorry. Say that's Savannah buster, bust
her ear, drumming and broken nose.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
That's what she says Savannah did to her. What she
thinks I'm gonna do to her. That's crazy.

Speaker 10 (45:01):
But I say that to say, you say she been
on my ass right and she wanted to get this fight.
How can you get a fight and make a fight
with me and you're suspending.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
You can't fight nobody? So what you're really calling for
a fight? Or what was you doing it for?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Cloud?

Speaker 5 (45:15):
I think we just Cloud.

Speaker 10 (45:17):
I think she didn't want me to She wanted to
to star me and make me not even think about franchion,
to keep all the attention on her till she got
through her little suspension that she kept a secret from everybody.
Go on, she ain't that big yet, so she ain't
gonna be on no Google. Go to box Wreck, that's
where you go. And on box Reck, you're gonna see

(45:37):
your day Shagreen picture and it's gonna say and definitely
suspend it.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
This is funny, y'all.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
Second Sunday, y'all, Little Caesars Arena after fight against Savannah Marshall.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
Yeah, because Savannah buster her ear drum and broken nose
in that July fight.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, you suspended for that. That's what I said. I
was saying. I study boxing on the injuries pds listen.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
I didn't know what it was. I just was like,
she suspended.

Speaker 10 (46:05):
But she put all the attention on her on herself though.
But let's not lose focus, you guys. Pap just dropped
the album Bars on Wheels, A Journey to Save Hip Hop.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
D J m V played the music.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
I know that the guy look at I know that
he raps and and he knows him he's been don't
say why, because then you're gonna I'll tell you how to.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
But I told him I was gonna let him wrap
for you while you was here. I want to bring
him in here.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yes, he's a cool dude. He really takes his crafts there.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
He does.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
He's Moroccan you tell him he's whack? You don't with him.
You can't come up here doing what I did when
I was trying to get on.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
And we had Larrussell.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
L Russell recently was talking about how he can him
up here and he rapped and it changed his trajectory
and so a lot of people see that now, so
they want something like, yo, introduce yourself.

Speaker 11 (47:08):
People man from London store, what was up the path?

Speaker 3 (47:15):
We've known our main a long time and he's a rapper.
His his records are starting to take off. He showed
me his videos and all that other stuff and we're
gonna let him take a deep breath. Okay that love.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
You got to beat what was the other the.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Other dude that came up here? One guy signed It
was Josh.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
And it was Josh and Don TOLLI, Don TALLI.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
We used to come up here all the time.

Speaker 7 (47:40):
You need to beat you a cappellat yesterday.

Speaker 11 (47:45):
Yeah, yes, yes, let's go. No pressure, the headphones matter.
You who started with a dream? I left home at
seventeen or come from South London. Baby, you don't see
that on the screen. They used to tell me that

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you'll be someone that don't achieve. I used to tell
myself that something that I won't believe. When it came
from my family, it really hurt me.

Speaker 8 (48:14):
Deep, so I lot myself inside the bedroom, cry before
I sleep. Told them that I want to be what
I want to be, but they rather me inside the
cell or see the boy that cease. Lost both grandma's
in six months while they leave. When a girl broke
my heart, I was crying on my knees. But that's
calmer because I've done the same to her mom. And
now I see life balancing out life, and really.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
It's a beast.

Speaker 8 (48:35):
So I'm sorry, mommy, because I know you couldn't rescue me.
I was fascinated by the street saying want me no degree.
Imagine having you a child that speaks the way I speak.
I'll probably go and lose my mind and turn my
back on me. Crazy how I talk about myself like
this so casually, because my self esteeming is not my
traumas guard so mad for me, couldn't figure out a
part to take. I found it gradually. Last time a

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girl she said she loved me, I said, actually love
a side factory. I'm closer to insanity every day about
what I just want to see my family, but.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I can't cry. I chose its life, so I have
a seat. Everybody talking about me in the Street.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
Okay, all right, all right, all right.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
He did his thing and that was tough.

Speaker 8 (49:20):
And where you're from, Morocco, that's where my parents are from.
But he moves to London and that's where I was
born on Moca when I was seventeen.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Okay, brother, right, okay, bro, Bro, that's going now, Bro.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Breakfast club? I would say, for what time.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
He is to get up here?

Speaker 1 (49:38):
So yeah, it is his record? Start? Where can they file?

Speaker 8 (49:40):
You know that in twenty two on the socials Spotify
you can catch me every I've got a little song,
let's doy and some numbers right now, so keep that
into it.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
Might be one records, next artist. No, definitely, sound sounds tough.
I love to hear some of your music and keep
doing your thing.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Man, you used to do that. That's the fact. I
used to do the same thing you do a lot
of clocked it for you used to be outside talking
one case. That's right, that's right now.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
So I know what it's like when when you got
down hungry, you're just like yo, I want to I
want to get on man.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
You got to do it yourself.

Speaker 11 (50:09):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Take it. I respect it.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
What's song you want to play off the project, pat
not the greed. I play that all the time.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
On your favorite joint of the project.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
You sure you won't.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Pick yours chill button, chill button.

Speaker 10 (50:22):
Chill but you ain't got one chill button like chill
but well one. I heard the album before all y'all
heard it. I saw the video and stuff too.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
I've be't knowing about this for months.

Speaker 10 (50:35):
I just wait, I was about to leak it. He
didn't drop it, y'all hear any of papool music get leaked?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
I did it? You did it?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
How crazy is that? On Twitter?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Like? Who happened?

Speaker 8 (50:46):
Like?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I don't know what happened?

Speaker 5 (50:47):
But doing numbers?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Let's get into it right now, bars or wheels out
right now? Yeah, Rissa produced my Brother real quick?

Speaker 6 (50:56):
Can I bring my brother in real quick? He produced
the whole project in the studio. We took o your
win records.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
Oh and by the way, everybody got that winning record.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Just tell him? How how was it producing this project?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Producing this project?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
You know it was that big, It was dope.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
We took our time with it, and it's real hip.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Hop producing MC man back together doing the strong.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
That's what it is, all right, Well, it's the breakfast club.
Pat post every day a week ago.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Up, the breakfast club. You don't finish for y'all done,