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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody's envy just hilarious, showing me the God we are
the Breakfast Club. Law On La Rosa is here and
we got a special guest in the building. We have
Sherry Shephard.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Hey y'all, are you feeling I'm so glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Lauren.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
My admiration for you. It's like my baby hair that
is growing. It just grows every day for you. You follow
me back on Instagram. I cried, oh are you serious,
Like not.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Like ugly cry, but I was just I called John
and I was like, she just followed me back on Instagram, Like,
oh my god, I.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Really do admire you. You like an intelligence sister, and
you like you boss mode. I love that. Thank you
like little brown girls look at you and go I
want to be like you.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Somebody just told her that. Somebody just told her that,
like like literally three minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Well, God is trying to tell you something. I hear
you better receive it. Won't nobody ever do that to me.
I never get it, Like it was on my way
to tell you for me.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I remember your trends, not the trance but when you
first stepped into the role on the show, right, and
it was a lot going on and a lot said it,
but you handled it really gracefully.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
When she.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Look at you, you know you have one support of you.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
But there was a lot of conversation that was happening.
But the way that you handled it out, I thought
was you handled it very well. Thank you. You know
this season life is too short. You got you got
to know what energy you're walking in and create your
own energy. That's how it works. And it worked out
what set what life?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Where in your life did you learn that? Because it
was loud? Yeah, but but I think from being on
the view, that's why I learned how to get the
criticism because I learned, you know, Joy Bayhart said, when
you you know, when you have this kind of platform,
when you open up your mouth, half the world is
going to hate you. So you know, so you stopped
trying to chase validation because I would go on this site.
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It was a site called I Hate Talk Shows, and
I would going there to see what they said about me,
and then they would say, oh, Sheerry's doing this. She
didn't even mention this, So I would mention it the
next time they go. Did you see how conceited she
was when she mentioned this, you can't win? So I
don't is I stopped reading all that stuff? They don't
care about you, and so I stopped. But what I
(02:18):
realized is nobody's sending me money to take care of
my son. Nobody is offering to help me when I'm
going through it. Nobody. You got your diehards that will
pray for you. So why am I listening to all
this is chatter from people who probably when they come
at you on social media, they want to do what
you're doing. They just don't want to put in that work.
That's what Kevin Hart says, and it's so true.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Have you heard that from Laura all right?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Because you never said that to me, Charlamage, I never
knew that was your You knew a lot of talk yet,
but you never said that.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But I'm the same way. I'm stop reading the comments,
Like why don't I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Go looking for the comments? But no, I don't, But no,
I do not. But every now and then you want
to see what people.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
But I also like, for what I do, I have
to kind of know what people are talking about. Why
what are angles to care? How we dive in and
what I talk at them. But it's hard.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Now you just have to be discerning because I read
my comments because sometimes people are very they have really
good critique. Some people are commenting share you talk a
mile a minute. I can't understand what you're saying. So
I learned to slow down. Yes, then those people who go,
you ain't cute, you ain't got no hips, you ain't
got no or you're gonna you know, I don't pay
attention to that because you look at it for what
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it is. You got to have your own self for it.
So you do when it's just discern what is edifying,
what is going to help you. The other stuff you
throw out, but it means nothing, even.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Your topics on your show, because that was another thing
as well too, Like people were upset when you talked
about Meg the stallion on the carpet and being you know,
nude or whatever you called her right, and people respond
to that and when that happens, Yeah, I changed.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You for that. When I said that about Meg, I
was ready for the backlash. But I am I'm a mum,
I'm a woman. I mentor girls, and I just go
at some point we have a responsibility. We have to
speak up. And I love meg da Stallion. I love it,
but I think that women are going too far and
sometimes we forget that there are people who are watching
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us and they can't do what we do. They don't
have security. They can't walk around and say I want
to do the same thing. So we also we are
our brother's keeper. To who much is given, much is required.
So I knew I was gonna backlash. They told me,
you know you're gonna get and I said, but no, no,
I got to stand up. I got this platform, and
it's really important that I say it. And if you
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listen to the context of what I said, you know
I did love everything. People look at you because you
have a degree. You went and graduated. You didn't just
let it go. So you inspire girls to want to
go to college. But also over here you inspire girls
who want to do this. And I named other women
who do it too, so you know, you just got
to be I got this platform for a reason, know
(05:00):
what it is, and I try to use it wisely.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
People should listen to the elders. What happened to that
we used.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
To listen too. They don't do that now.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
They're old, you know, the push back at you, like,
I know you're intentional with the topics that you choose
when you get pushbacks like oh, this is an age thing.
It's because you're older. She don't understand. She actly, she
didn't have her day like right, those type of things.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
That I have a lot of grace. I know. You
know there were things that we did when we were young,
and you know and I do. But also you know
what the assignment is. There's an assignment on your life.
There's an assignment that you've been given and you got
to carry it out. And it's just stuff that comes
with this. With this, you know, position that you're in,
it is gonna come. You can't escape it.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So just before we get into straw.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Before we're getting a straw.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
When you came in there today, you said your son
just texted you and said, mom, I have off of
school today and I have nothing to do. That's right,
And he's twenty years old.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Yes, that's not what she said. She had part that's
always get through what she really said.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But then you said that you're and also said he
wants to smoke. He wants to smoke some marijuana.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So yes, because that's what all everybody talks about at school,
you know, they talk about that, and so he that's
one of his things. He came. I was doing my
podcast with Kim Whidley, two Funny Momas. He came. He
was like, I want to talk to you, and that's
what he was going to the basketball center and he said,
you know, when can I get hi?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
First of all, it's amazing that he came to you
and feel comfortable again, Yeah, what did you tell him?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But he comes to me and I don't know nothing,
Like that's the problem. And he was just like I'm
a single mom. He was like, you know, I want
to when can I do this? And I was sitting
here praying and speaking in tongues, and I said, when
you twenty four? He asked me that when he was
like nineteen or eighteen. That's just the number that came
to my head, envy saying a mother like it's too much,
Like I still look at my son as like my baby,
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a fourteen year old. So when he came and was
asking these questions about where, you know, when can you
go and see you know, women dancing and stuff, And
when I didn't know what Yes, so I said twenty four.
That's just the number. But it came to my head.
So he you know, so he my my the person
who does my hair, theo. He has locks in his hair.
So when my son saw him, he said he immediately
(07:09):
said do you get high and stereotyping. But here's what happened.
They looked at him. It was like yeah, But so
I said, well, I wanted to have the experience of
I said, well, maybe if they put the medicine and
make you go to the bathroom, the diarrhea medicine in
the brownie. That way, when he does it, he'll, you know,
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just have diarrhea. They don't want to do it again.
That's what everybody says, like you give him so much
liquor that they get sick.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
No, give him some sativa, some high grade sativa.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And what is that?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
What if the kind that induces panic attacks and makes him.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That will make him not want to do it again.
Not the diarrhea.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
But I got to go to sleep wanting and my
son gonna smother me, and I don't want him to
have a pan. I just wanted to diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That No, nothing, he'll fly You see him on Madison
avenue trying to fly for cars or something. Don't do that.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
The panic attackers was gonna make him not want to
do it. That promise you okay, I want to do that?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yes, yeah, m be saying no, Lauren saying no, should
do it. When I when I first got hot, I
think I was like eighteen seventeen.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
He got to wait till twenty four, because that's the look.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I am a single mom. This is hard. You don't understand.
It's not a man. This is where I get mad
when I need some men to come in and help
me because I don't know what to what to say
to him. I don't get high. So when he came
to me and was saying that, I was just like,
I didn't know what to say. The judgment. I don't
like Charlotte Magne. That's what I was saying to you.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, when he's twenty four, me and uncle Charlotte take
him to a landa strip club magic.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Well, thanks a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh my god, we're handle that part.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I'm just can y'all let him intern with y'all then
and do what you will. I won't even look. I'll
just close my eyes.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
But you would never say that a bad boy record, wowser, wowser,
Like everybody have my suoena court.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Oh my god, So single mother life for you? Like
what other things are you figuring out on your own?
Are you single mom? Like there's no communication anymore with
your son's father or well, I mean, you know, we
communicate with y'all. We don't as much because he turned eighteen. Like,
I don't have to. I don't have to pay child
support anymore. I don't have to. I don't add the
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court paper set. I have to tell you everything that's
going on with school. I don't have to do that. Now.
It's up to you to call him to check on him.
That's not my that's not my thing. I've made you
look good in his eyes. Now it's up to you
to keep that going. That's not on me. I've never
talked about his father badly in front of him. Now.
When Jeffrey left the room, that was a different conversation.
It's a lot going on at one point. Yeah, so
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but you know it's so this is on you.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's on you to talk to your dad. I'm not
in that.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
What things do you deal with on your own with
your son that you're like, man.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
All of that trying to teach him how to be
a man. I don't know how to be a man
because I'm not a man. I don't espouse that belief
of you know, I can be everything for you. You
don't need no daddy. You don't know you need a
man in your life. A boy needs a man, especially
in this day and age, A young black boy needs
a black man because men what they do to my
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son because I'm not allowed to say his name, he
told me don't talk about him. But what they do
to my son is they say, look God, look me
in the eye, shake my hand, you know, give me
your deepest voice when you talk to me. I don't
know how to say that. What he gets from me
now is he's like you always, like you keep nagging
because I feel like I only got maybe twelve minutes
to give him the rest of life's lessons. And he's like,
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you told me already. And so I think with mothers
and boys, as they get older, there's a frustration. That's
why they keep wanting to pull away. They're longing from
that male energy. So when he's around, when he's around
my glam team, he likes being with them because they're
just men, are you dating? And I'm single. I'm single,
so I'm just I'm out here, I'm open.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I was crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I never got my DM, so I don't. I really
don't go on my dms because the last time it
was somebody didn't have no finger, so it was missing
the third digit. So I don't what happened. Let me
tell you why not something that's a deal breaker when
you're missing digits. I need, I need you to have
a finger, no fingers, because it was in it. I
went to his uh, I went to his profile, and
I looked and he didn't have no finger, so which finger?
(11:25):
Though he was a third finger? Not that you don't
know if you really need your third finger til you
got your third finger.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
What if this man was good looking, it was had
a nice career, was a great man, he was going
to be the love of your life and you could
because you don't got a finger.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You don't have a finger. That's just that's a big deal,
not having a finger, because you need all ten of
your fingers. I'm just saying, if you want to caress
my neck and you ain't got that finger, you feel
I feel emptiness. But on one hand, on it I
didn't you know. I guess I saw the finger was
missing Lauren. I just didn't stay. But it does that
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you get in this season. It's it's different now. Now
I'm not looking at potential. When I was in my twenties,
it was about, oh he got he got potential. I
don't look at potentially. You have to have be living
in your You have to be living your dream. It
has to be your reality. You have to be a
certain financial and a financial place because I'm not here
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trying to help you move forward. So it just changes.
If I bring you into my space, you can't be intimidated.
You can't be like looking at it around, going well,
there's nothing I can do. So it just changes a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So how was shooting straw I know you loved it?
Four days shooting your Brain?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
No, I was six days.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
He was six days.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
She was doing Fight Night at the same time, and
Tianna was also doing a movie at the same time. Look,
I was the only one I had time, so mine
was six days. I had I had a ball. It
was a different experience step into the Tyler Perry world
breaking death because I'm used to, you know, doing a
movie and it'll take weeks to do. You know, I'm
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on location for a number of weeks. So even when
Tyler had asked me and I wasn't available, I said,
we I'm trying to work it out. How many weeks
do you need me? He said, I don't need you
for I need you for five days. And I had
never heard that before because it was I was one
of the stars of the movie. But with Tyler, he's
got a world that he lives in. He's really he
knows what he wants. He has a lot of cameras
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covering you. So when you go to a movie they
do a master shot, you know, you go back and
you wait till they turn it around and do a
single shot. Then they got to turn those cameras around
and do the other shot. Then they got to get
a wide shot, then they got to get a close up,
and you're you're doing maybe three pages in a whole day.
Tyler does not do that. He has a ton of
cameras in and they they're catching shots. So when I'm
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looking at the movie, they caught shot. To me, I
didn't even realize because it was so many cameras. So
he can do ten or twelve pages in a day.
But he knows what he wants and he gets it done.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And Tyler was a man of his word.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Because I remember y'all just had to be like maybe
four or five months ago, you was.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Asking him to put you in.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I don't know if it was a specific movie, or
was it why did I get married, or I just
remember you asking him to be in something.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I ask everybody who comes if they could put me
on something, he can put you in, and he put
me in the movie. He called me, he said I
have this part and I want you to do it.
And it conflicted with the talk show. You can't really
take off, but they moved and around. I said, I
don't care who sits in the chair. I need to
do this movie. And they we ended my show a
week early so I could go and do it.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
But when I let me tell you something about Tyler Perry.
He takes care of you. Now everybody talks about the
money he pays you. Yes, But in terms of I
walked into my trailer, you have to negotiate your trailer size.
From the front of everything is negotiation, and I always negotiate,
you know, I get the less one less of what
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the star gets. So I get a big trailer, but
he I walked in my trailer and I said, it
is Brad Pitt doing the movie to you. I walked
in my trailer. It was a double staircase. I had
a kitchen. I had an office I had I had
a full kitchen with I tried to I was like,
if I could take this refrigerator. It was a full
size refrigerator. It was a bedroom. It was a walk
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in closet. It was I had a living room, a
family room, reclined. I was like, I cried, I've never
had in my wildest dreams, I never imagine said something
like that. You know where he put me up at,
where I stayed at night. It was just it was unbelievable.
It was unbelievable. When I tell you, I mean even
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on my show. He came and we did a giveaway
show where Tyler Perry came in and he just gave
stuff away. He paid the mortgage off for one of
our guests. He gave a colleague of mine who's a
comic who had a stroke, Bonehampton. He was a Christian comic.
Now he's in a wheelchair. He gave him one hundred
(16:01):
thousand dollars so he could figure out. So he had
a cushion to figure out what he wanted to do.
I mean he gave, he just gave away. It was
really wonderful what he did. Did that public le Yes,
we did it on my show. Why are you thinking
you need one hundred thousand dollars show?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
No, I just wouldn't want nobody to know that because
everybody be asking.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, that's that's the down side.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
But the beauty about Tyler he had no problem saying no.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
He says, no, that's right because when I had to
pitch it to him, I would say to him, we
had this, and he goes, tell me what you're talking about. No, Like,
when you come to Tyler, it has to be very specific.
It has to be very well thought out, and you
have to have research. Because he says, okay, so if
I do this, then what about this? How are they
going to pay this? And I said, I don't know.
I'm just coming to you asking for the money. I
don't know all that. He goes, well, when you know what,
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then you call me back. So he's you have to
be on your business.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Can you speak about that real quick?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
You're how important is it to actually say what it
is you mean, because.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We live in a generation with these kids be like,
well you know what I meant to say?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, you know what I meant to say. I think
that we're in the age of communication is harder for
because we're in the social media age where you swipe
and swiping, so you're putting in initials for you know,
laugh out loud lol, So people you know you're not
saying what you mean. And I think it's a big problem.
I don't know how to fix it because I keep
trying to talk to my nieces and nephews and say,
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tell me what you're saying. Don't think I know what
you're saying. I don't know if it's a life lesson
that they have to go through because I had to
go through to get it. Whoopie was very hard on
me on the view, tell me what you're saying, and
I had to figure out and articulate so that came.
That was hard for me. What was that like having
Whoopy be like, yoh, tell me what you're saying. Oh,
she was hard on me. Whoopy was very, very hard,
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but she loved me and she didn't want to see
me go through a lot of stuff which has served
me well doing having my own show and dealing with criticism,
being able to say no, I say what I mean
on my show. But I'm grown, you know. I think
that's why I got the success at this age, you know,
because I know how to stand up for myself. I
know how to say no, I know how to say yes.
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I know what I am bringing to the show and
what I want to see. So it's you know, sometimes
you just have to go through life. You got to fall,
and you gotta get You got to learn to get
back up. You gotta fall, you gotta learn to get
back up.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
And I'm sure whoop, you saw the greatness in you.
Like a lot of times, people see things in you
that you may not see seeing yourself.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Sometimes, yeah, maybe she did. I would hope that. Yeah, yeah,
I know we came a long way saying we came
a long way from when you call me to Tasmanian devil,
mister Charlemagne to God.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
That's remember remember, And I don't know if you heard
earlier when you started talking about yourself, he was like,
damn as soon as you said that. I don't know
if you if you heard it, but you know, he
still took a little shot at you earlier today.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
What were talking about? Exactly what is he talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I don't know, but I went envy that right. What
do you say?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Watch him?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You got to watch.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Got to watch him. So I want to congratulations you
were pregnant April first.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Oh my god, you every celebrity confusing me with somebody.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Do you'll want to stop this?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I think I am. That's my calling card. I'm not
getting pregnant.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh my god, just that you're a man.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You said it was a joe quickly because you said
you didn't want to manifest that I did.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I didn't want to. Yeah, because I found out I'm
stelling perry menopause. So I still can get pregnant. And
when the doctor told me that, I was like, no,
they cannot be because at this age. Here's the thing,
men don't want to hear. And at this age, they
don't want to hear that you've been celibate for thirty years.
That's not nothing. If you and your twenties, men like
to hear that, oh you a virgin, Oh that is good.
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But when you dog onto your fifties and you're like,
I've been celibate for the last twenty five years, waiting
on the right one. A man will run, will run
as fast as he can, and a man want here.
I can't get pregnant. You can't get pregnant. Oh shoot.
So when they told me that, I was just like, Okay, this,
this don't make no sense. So that was my April
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Fool's joke, and everybody believed it. But I cut it
short because I don't want to manifest that kind of thing.
If I told y'all I was pregnant right now, if
you had to report that, y'all would be laughing at me, wouldn't.
Why I can't at this age?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Janet jackcident and you got why not?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Jennet Jackson is yeah, but no, And I love Janet
and Janet No, Janet's one year older than man. She
was fifty fifty five. No, I believe I don't want
to be dealing with you. I'm not dealing with a
two year old. At this sage. You have to have
the energy and the stamina and the patience you have
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to go through when your child goes mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy,
bo why but why but why? When they have temper tantrums,
because they can't articulate. I don't have that kind of energy.
At nine o'clock, I'm winding down.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Well, I say, you look good. I'll be honest with you.
I didn't even know you was for detail. I looked
it up just now.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I only looked it up because.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I said that. And I earn every one of these
stripes absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I don't know why I said it. Yesterday went to
Rodger was here.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Why would you want a young girl when black women
age like this?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It don't make no sense to me.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I think though, a lot of younger men they do
come to me because they do want an older, seasoned woman,
because I think we know what we want. You know,
we don't take a lot of mess. We're very we're
very We're very articulate about what we want. We are accomplished.
And I think a younger a lot of younger men
like that. But I don't see there are women that
like younger men. I like a man my age. I
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like a man that is seasoned. We want the same
things in life. He's healthy, we can talk about things.
If I say something, he knows who I'm talking about.
That's right, Like my my hair got THEO every time
we talk about stuff. He like, who is that? I said,
I said, somebody doing a tour. They're doing a tour.
It's El DeBarge, it's baby face, he said, who.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
El de Barge?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
He? Who is eld the bars. I need you to
know who these people are and what they've done.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
And I want older men to like older women because
we see what happens.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And they get in trouble. That's the problem. But but
I understand young young people bringing energy. They bring an
energy into your life. I like, like, I would like
to have a daughter so I could do a TikTok.
I want to do a TikTok. That's how I want
to We do TikTok together. Because my son won't do
a TikTok for me, to save his life. We do
a TikTok, he just walk out the frame. He just
walk out the camera. Boys is different, you know, That's
(22:33):
why I want a daughter. Like I was with Kadeen
Devou's wife, Kadeen and like, she looks like she could
be my daughter. Like I look like the cool sexy
mom next to her, and I'm like, we look we
look good together. A TikTok No, but we did. We
was dancing together. We got we was twerking together. We
got pictures. It looks so good, y do you know?
And I'm mentored than I dudes, So that's why, so
(22:54):
we can do what we do our tiktoks. They take
me to boots on the ground. They told me that
I know that to me a challenge I noticed to
men't t ugh. They're keeping you a little safe though.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
They teach you like the things you should know at
your age, like younger TikTok friendly stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I've been looking at it though.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Some of that stuff to my knees, I'm like, mm hmm,
seen the pop the pussy for a good chown?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
No, I ain't seen. No what that doesn't come up
in my algorithm.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
That's gonna show you. It's going to show you what
is popped.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Now you've been you've been very open about your health
and your finances.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Why are you so open? Because most people are kind
of keep it to themselves. Maybe they'll feel embarrassed. But
you've been open, You've been discussed, you've been talking about it.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Why Because I think that a lot of people are
going through health challenges like if you don't if you
don't have your health together, you're not able to fulfill
the purpose that you've been put here for and just
do basic step. How do you want how do you
want to live ten? What do you want your life
to look like ten years from now, twenty years from now? Well,
it's that starts today. So I'm really open about showing
(23:53):
that I go to the gym. I get up at
four thirty in the morning, four times a week to
go to the gym. You know, however you want to feel,
you got to start today, and I want people to
know it's not over. Like you can start and go
to that gym and work out, start eating healthy. You're
able to accomplish so much more. Your outlook on life changes,
your confidence changes. So I'm just really big and diabetes
(24:16):
is really big in our community, and I'm a Type
two diabetic. So I want people to know that life
is not over because you're diabetic, but it can start
and it can be amazingly wonderful. So I tell people,
don't pray that the diabetes goes away. When they say
I'm a pray for you that to go, No, don't
pray that because having diabetes has saved my life. Having
diabetes makes me look at everything that I put in
(24:37):
my mouth. That sounding nastiesting. I just realized that. But
it really makes me look at everything. Wow, it makes
me look at everything that I do, that I eat.
It makes me go to the gym. I look at
my son and I go, he still needs me. So
I need to do things different. So that's why I'm
so open about it. I really am.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And they changing everything at the doctor now.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Like I went to the doctor the other day and
they told me that I'm a five. Wait seven, you
right on the cut. Youre bet and they come back
in six months, and I'm like, you need to start
walking more.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I'm crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
You need to watch what you eat. You eating starches,
yeah you cut off? Oh you predisposed, Yeah, but a lot.
You know, you can change that because you're over here
on this side. You can modify stuff that you're eat
because wen't you coming over coming over to my side?
That stuff that you just can't have, like you know,
chocolate chip cookies I'm addicted to. I had to stop that.
(25:29):
I had I drink my tea with no sugar. I'm learning,
I know, but I have to do it because otherwise
my my gluecoast level goes up, so you then you
wear a patch so you could see you know what
your blood gluecoast level. That's what that is. What do
you think is just a white thing you gonna have?
Ring make me say you got to have everything you
(25:53):
thought market? It is my glucoas, my continuous glue cooast
monitor for my freely break. Haven't you see my diabetic commercials?
We'll be skating around Ring Mark.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
You know, I did want to ask you, did me
Along ever take you up on your conversation to come
on your show? I guess that's who you was alluding
to what they said alluding to when they said she
rolled up on you.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
When I said unnamed celebrity, it rolled up a reporter
that a source had told me that it was Along. Yes,
did Neolong take me up? Because I didn't say her name,
but yes, it was Along. You know if here's the thing,
I don't know who Na Along had me confused with?
And what I appreciate, Lauren, this is why I love you.
You did your research, you did your homework, and you
(26:43):
pulled up a clip. The only time I've ever talked
about Na Along is when she went through it with
her partner who it was infidelity, and I supported her
and that she should she deserves to have a good
man to be with her. And you pulled up that clip,
so thank you for that. You handle it very well.
So I have no idea. I think Neilon maybe confused.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Me with someone not a lot of black women on TV,
so it's not I have.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
No idea who she thought was shading her, but it
was not me. I have no beef with Nie Along.
I'm a fan of hers with grown women. We're both
the same age, so like we can discuss it. That's
why I invited her on my show, you know, And
a lot of people said, well, why would you say
something like that publicly? Well, number one, I did, never
said her name. There was a lot of women that
attended the Othello premiere, and number two I do. I'm
(27:29):
a stand up comic, so everything that happens in my
life is material for me and my stage. My comedy
stage is the talk show. So I got on stage
and I just talked about it, and I said, you know,
it was a fun it was this happened. You wanted
to know why I went to the bathroom, because I said,
I went to the bathroom and had a meeting in
the ladies room. That was actually a joke with you know,
(27:49):
because Climax. This is why I don't give a younger man.
It was climax meeting in the ladies room. I'll be back,
and she says, don't. She said, don't test me because
I might slap you. Remember, you know a DJ god
don't know anybody, And so I did. I said the joke.
Norman Baker, who's ahead of our hot topics. He was like,
(28:12):
that's funny. Everybody got it, and you over here go.
I don't understand why she went to the was waiting
in the bathroom. You and jes So that's what that was.
That was a joke. But yeah, but I don't have
any beef. I don't I don't like to tear down people.
But I honestly was was just confused. And I also
don't like when you when you touch me and you
(28:32):
pull at me, I don't like that, like grabbed me
and spun me around. And here's the thing, I'm a
really nice yeah like you.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Oh that's what you mean?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I hate him? You know you shof by the way.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Never you know, but now I can't un see it.
This is why I tell women stop getting with stand up,
because you got to sit in bed and they go
over the same joke and punchline over and over, and
you got to hear that all night long. Charlamagne your wife, God,
bless her, Lord, open up doors for her, bless her.
Just bless her father, God.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
It could be your darkest moment. You could be crying.
He's not gonna be sympathetic.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
No, I am sympathetic. I just wanted to bring some joy.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
That's a lot. No, But it's like, but when people
when people tugget you, when they want to picture and
they tugget you, it's like, so I'm still I think people,
I'm so nice, but you can't confuse that. I am
a Chicago girl. So when that happens, you know, then
I go there. But you know, I'm cool. I'm so cool.
It's done. If Nilon would love to come on my show,
(29:41):
I would love. I'm a fan, we're both actresses. I
would love to talk to her and just clear it up.
That's such a That's why these beefs that come on
social media like it's easily cleared up.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
So I would love suck and this young girl behavior
like I wonder, because she's been around for so long,
what could she think you her tone, I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Think it's younger behavior, charlamage. Sometimes you don't see a person,
you know, sometimes these things fester. This is what Woopy
told me, and this is why I'm very nice. On
my talk show. She said, we were about to do
a story. I wanted to do a story on the
view about a certain rapper. The baby mama was asking
for more money. Then something happened bad and I wanted
(30:23):
to blame it on this this rapper. And I said,
I want to talk about this, and Whoopy said, we're
not going to talk about it. And I said, no, no, no,
we got this platform and I'm gonna let people know.
And she said no. So Barbara Walter said, if Whoope's
not going to talk about it, we're not going to
talk about it. And I went into a whoopees room
and I said, why would you kill this story? It's
(30:44):
very interesting. Everybody knows the rapper. And she said, let
me tell you something to Sharry. She said, celebrities have
long memories. And you know this, y'all know this. They
have long memories. You have a career beyond the show
and she said, and what will happen is you might
go to a club encounter this rapper. You are black women,
we'd at least protect it. And if they get mad
(31:05):
at you want to do something, ain't nobody gonna do nothing.
Now if Elizabeth hasseback goes to the club because she
didn't say something and he does anything, everybody gonna be
calling the police.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
He ain't even gonna do nothing to.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Won't even do nothing to it. She said, you always
had to keep that in mind. And she said, and
you want to work beyond this show, because you're not
gonna be here for long. You're gonna be working. And
these and celebrities have very long memories, and you're in
the business and your career is important. And I just
always remember that. And I'm a kind person. So when
I come at stories, Lauren always go is it edifying?
(31:35):
I would rather you be laughing with me, going that
girl is talking about me today. That is so funny
what she says, Rather than I'm too old to be
in the club and somebody comes up to me goes,
my name is Thunn Thun, And I don't you know
I heard what you said. It ain't gonna be I'm
not gonna be having that, and you bet not. First
of all, I'm fifty, I don't even know who you are.
(31:56):
I don't remember what I said. And wait, does she
just slap me? I don't be fighting no more like that.
So you know, it's like life is too short. I
want to put out good energy on my show. I
want you to feel good. I want you to know
that when you come to the show is a safe space.
If you don't want to talk about something, there's a
ton of other stuff we can talk about. If you
(32:18):
want the shady stuff, it's a bunch of blogs you
can go to. And I think that people, even though
they like that, they turn on you quick. They turn
on you quick when you're always giving out bad stuff
and talking about people. I think I have more fans
that will stick with me if I go through something
then not. So that's just the way I operate, and
it has worked.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I feel like God is talking through Did you.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Just say that three minutes ago?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
No, he just always talking to me. Yes, We've had
a lot of conversations this weekend. Yesterday aways yeah, really, yes,
I mean I literally was recording my podcast The Latest
Who Learned the Roads? But before you came in here.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
And on my podcasts, I was talking about how I
talked to guy yesterday and was like, look, I hear you.
I get it. I know what I need to do
to doll back and you know, focus and whatever whatever,
And then you come in here. You're literally it sounds
better coming from you, though you look a lot better.
So when you're dealing with you understand. But there are
(33:19):
people who do that. I just think that you have
to go You're going to have to answer to what
you put out in the world, right and sometimes stuff
your parents even say that. Sometimes stuff you can say it,
but do you need to say it?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Now?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
That's not for everybody. I'm I'm not judging anybody. There
are blogs that I go to because I just got
to know what's going on, and they give their opinion
and I figure out how I'm going to form my opinion.
But in a different way. For me, I'm like, it's
going to edify you? Is it going to add to
your life? If it's not, then let's go to another one.
But a lot of this stuff doesn't add to my life.
(33:51):
Like a lot of this stuff is like their topics.
There's conversation and then we move on. So where's that balance? Well,
what's your intention and what is your heart when you're
doing it? Like, you know, I got Didy jokes too.
Those I do on stage, I'm not gonna do him
on the talk show. So you know, I just think,
what what is your intention when you're saying it? So
I don't know if you're talking about the fact that
you want to do negative stuff. You got to report the.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
News, That's what I'm saying. Like, sometimes you got to
touch on things that people are not happy touching on.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
But there are people who are intentionally mean about stuff.
There are people intentionally trying to take down folks. So
if you're not like that, but you have to report
on the news. I don't have to do that a man.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
If you hear about a man nothing and then the
man taking the nuting and rubbing it on his nipple,
YEA heard that.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
The sperm shake. But but she's covering a trial. They
are trying to show character. They're trying so you have
to tell us what's going on. That is what they
discuss in the courtroom. Yes it's gross, but that's what
they talked about. They put him on the witness stand,
so you're just you're just telling that and giving your opinion.
(34:55):
This ain't nothing you said. Oh this is what I heard.
This is actual fact. If he was on the he
was on the witness stand, so you know, yes it was.
I was like, that's disgusting. But I never looked at
you like, oh, Lauren, why are you saying that the news?
But I mean, like even relationships stuff like the big
celebrity breakups and the divorces and the you I think
you have to you know, you you have to report that.
(35:17):
I try to do it too, like the way I
come from with divorces. I'm upset because I looked at
you know, there's I'm sad because they got divorced, and
then I have some jokes in there. I'm sad they
got divorced. But is he available now?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
You know?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Do you mind if I got to bring some lightness
to it? Gotcha? But it is your job to report
what is going on. Otherwise we wouldn't know what.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
She hasn't been so much. I get the calls, Yeah,
we did, We do numerous times.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Biggest conversation right now when breakups is CARDI b offset.
So when we're covering those things, it's very temperamental for
the people that are going through and I try to
understand that.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
But at the same time, it's like these things are
put out there. Cardi's on spaces talking about it, there's tweets,
there's all these things. So the balance sometimes and.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
You're going to get it. You are going to get it.
I've seen people who come on the show who don't
want to know. Who was the one that didn't want
to talk to Jess when she was six? He read
I'm like, you know, and she's very, very sensitive, and
she had to say numerous times, I just have to
report it. I'm gonnam, this is what I do. We
have to report it for them. I'm like, this comes
with the territory. People are going to report. That's why
(36:20):
I'm so private about my life, because otherwise people are
going to report on it.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's just when people take sides though, right, because we don't.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Know all the facts, and they want to know why
you didn't say this because we only got three minutes
and this is the information I was given you always
I have to say that too. People get mad at
me and I go, I didn't know. I didn't know
that fact before. This is what we read and I'm
I have to comment on it.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
But what Sherry said is true.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Intention matters, right, Like, yeah, Lauren, you know we would
have a dinner with the Wendy Williams.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, and this was how long ago? I don't remember that.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
And Wendy said, verbatim, I think that I'm in the
space that I'm in now because.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Of how to talk about people.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
That's pretty powerful, that's what she says.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
And she was like, well, I just was and we
don't even talk that.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
She was like, I don't know, I just I just
think God, Like wow, for her to have that self awareness,
then I mean, now it's good.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
But yes, and see, now here's the thing. No matter
what I say about Wendy, it'll be it'll be taken
out of context. So I don't get upset because I
know my intention. I feel that's very powerful. And sometimes
we get in the season of our life we started
looking back over stuff and God is we're open more
to hearing God. The fact that she said that is
(37:35):
pretty deep because that means that at night she's been
laying there thinking about some stuff. Now, she has a
plethora of fans who if you if we said that,
they'd be on us like on our asses about that.
But Wendy said that, and it was a deep you
can feel the sorry like I don't know, but maybe
(37:56):
I've never seen her like that, And I was like,
oh wow, I don't want to end up like that.
And I would say this sometimes when you I remember
my girlfriend said one time she didn't let The Real
Housewives be played in her house. Her kids liked it,
and she said, I don't want that energy in my
house of always arguing people now with a man they do,
because I don't want that any kind of seeds to
(38:17):
be planet of energy in my house and I'm arguing
with my friends, and so she wouldn't. So I feel
like sometimes when you're in negative space all the time,
negative energy seems define you. That's like how it is
with Straw. It's the same thing with Straw. Like this girl, Taraji,
her character, it was always negative stuff. And so everything
(38:38):
you see these people that can't catch a break, they're
always it's always something negative finds you because you're in
such a negative space. So I think you have to
look at that when I say, is it edifying how
you were reporting the news? That's what you're doing. But
when you know when you start to veer over into
the shady, the mean, the shady Charlotte may when you
(38:58):
veer over into that space. Because God get on me
all the time. I'll veer over and He'll go stop stop,
and I'm like, ah, but it's funny. Yeah, but it
ain't from me. You know now, I'm not gonna open
up a Bible and do malla co icept.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
No.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I'm funny. I do dirty jokes. I talk about people.
But I can feel when I'm veering over into the
I know you got to go your character instro you
brought back up.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
It's such it because we're talking about women in all
these spaces, right, Your character is such an advocate for
black women in distress.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yes, in real life. Where does that come from for you?
You know what I just I'm I feel for women
who go I don't get along with other women because
they treacherous. They this that's what you're draw into your life.
I'm a big believer. Way you speak is what comes
to you. And we cannot exist without other women. We
really cannot. Like our strength comes from women. We change
(39:49):
the world. I know when I was going through my
worst moments, when I would be on the floor crying.
It would be my girlfriends that would pick me up
and hold me like I Just who would encourage me,
who challenge me, who get on me? Is women. So
if you don't have a good, good female friends in
your life and you think they treacherous and you think
they trying to get your man, then you need to
(40:10):
let them go. And also you need to look at
yourself because what is that saying? Show me the four
people you hang out with, and I'll show you who
you are. So if you feel that all the women
in your life are treacherous, then what are you? Who
are you?
Speaker 5 (40:23):
So?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
I just think that women we have to we have
to galvanize because young girls. I have a heart for
young women. They don't have these they don't have enough
role models, and they are looking to us to figure out.
We have coping mechanisms all this stuff that's happening politically adults,
we barely have coping mechanisms. Think about these kids that
(40:43):
are out there. They got nothing, So they need to
see positive women in what they are doing. We need
more women like you, We need more women like me,
We need more women who are We need more women
like Megs the stallion who says, I'm gonna go to college. Yes,
I got this, but I'm gonna give my education because
I know I'm gonna make a differ with this thing
behind me, this piece of paper. And they wanted they
(41:03):
want to go to they want to go to college.
When I looked at a different world, I wanted to
go to college. So I think that we have to
really reach back and health these young ones like y'all
have to reach back. There's no reason why y'all have
not reached out and said, can free come and help?
Say his name, Oh damn it, my son. Okay, I
(41:24):
would like him too. He needs he needs an intern.
Perhaps he needs the intern. I need somebody to help.
That's what he needs to do. Intern, because you know
he's on he's on the spectrum, and so it just
he needs some black men in his life to you know.
He tell I had to teach him to take the
train by himself. I deal with people way different than
a man, would you know. So I tell I tell him,
when you're on the train and somebody says something crazy,
(41:46):
just get up and move. Maybe you might tell him
something different. I tell him, if the police say this,
do this, And he said, Mom, They're not going to
say that to me. I don't know what to say
to him when he goes. They're not going to say
he's manifesting great stuff, that that's not going to happen.
But you might say something different.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
That is the hardest thing raising kids, because you don't
want to put that on them. If they feel that
way and they have that positive energy, you don't want
to take that away from them.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
But you still want them to deal with the reality.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Absolutely they have to deal with. But my reality and
the way I'm a nurturer, maybe he shouldn't be a nurturer.
I'm a protector, you know, I'm a Look. Look, if
somebody mess with you, run, if a girl messed with you, run.
You know, maybe he's not supposed to do that. You
might have different advice for him. You know. He obviously
would talk to y'all more about brownies and all of
that other stuff. He found a site to sell them
(42:28):
seven ninety nine, so y'all can tell him something different.
I didn't know what to say. He submitted, Lincoln, everything.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
You owns part of a dispensary to please don't tell
him that.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I'm not gonna give him nothing. Give him to you
and you can have them.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
Oh my god, I do want to end with this
last question, miss Shepard, because you have been in here preaching.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
I mean, you do not know how God has been
talking through you.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Wow over that.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Now, there is a generation of women watching your show
who feels seen and heard. So what do you want
to share his show to represent in this messy meme
driven media landscape.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I want I want the young brown girls to look
at me and say, it's possible I can do that.
I think you got three shows out with three black
women running them. I don't know if you're gonna see
that again in this temperature, but I want them to
be able to look at us, look at me, and
say I can do it. You know, That's why representation matters.
(43:25):
People keep saying no no, we all won no no no.
I saw Oprah Winfrey doing it and she looked like me.
We had the same kind of hair, sayings the wig.
We had the same kind of hair, her skin color.
I saw Stephanie Mills and in the Whiz and I said,
I want to do that. It matters. And so when
little girls look at me and they come and see
(43:45):
me and they call me untie, I'm like, yes, you
can do this. There's a space for you. I want
you to feel like there's a space. I want you
to I want you to come up to me and
ask me for advice. I want you to get ready
because it's there for the taking. The money is here,
the you just gotta be ready. So that's what I
want to impart. It's doable, it really truly is. But
(44:09):
you gotta do the work. So I think a lot
of social media people, it comes to them so fast
and when the crash comes, they're not able to rebound,
you know, So put in, put in the work, and
it's it'll happen.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Check today.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Can I tell you I'm also gonna be an NJ
Pack Kim Whitley and I two Funny Mamas, three time
na A CP Image Award winning podcast, Two Funny Mamas.
We're gonna be at the NJ Pack at the North
to Shore Comedy Festival June twentieth, and then we're gonna
be in Philly. I'm gonna be in Philly July eleventh
at the Riverside Casino. Is it the Riverside Casino? Rivers
(44:48):
rivers Casino, Because I'm about to go on tour and
do stand up. But Kim Whitley and I are the
only comics who can stand on stage and do two
hours of comedy improv. I don't know anybody else who
could do it the way Kim will and I can
do it. So come for the Shenanigans.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
That's right, New Jersey Pack, that's June.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
And I don't be preaching. I'm funny. No, no, no,
I'm funny.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Sherry Shepherd, Ladies and Gentlemen, Straw Netflix, It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
The Breakfast Club