October 24, 2024 • 33 mins
The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Tamela & David Mann To Discus New Album Live Breathe Fight, Marriage, And Faith & God. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Morning.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Everybody's j n V Jess Hilaris Charlamagne the Guy. We
are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Justice on maternity leave, so Laura Leroza is filling in,
and we got some special guests in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We have Tamala and David Man.
Speaker 5 (00:17):
Welcome, what though, thank you, thank you, thank you for
having good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Now. Just in case y'all wondering why I'm here. I
walked in the door and she sit down. Yes, ma'am,
I'm in your house.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Because Man is here to promote her new album Live
Brief Fight.
Speaker 6 (00:34):
But I mean, y'all been doing things together forever, like
y'all even know life without each other?
Speaker 7 (00:39):
No, and I don't marry either.
Speaker 8 (00:41):
Look, we got married at twenty one, so we've been
married thirty six years.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's a long time.
Speaker 7 (00:46):
I have no separations.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I like to say that there you go.
Speaker 7 (00:50):
We worked through it.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
Did y'all know as soon as y'all saw each other,
like she did because that kind of guy.
Speaker 7 (00:55):
No, No, we did not.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But we were just friends.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
But it wasn't long after though, that I knew. But
I wouldn't let him know that I that I felt
like I felt like he was the one, but I
was like, I don't know, because you know, David had
a little play in him.
Speaker 9 (01:13):
When did I realize it was probably it was really
some months that because we started singing together early, so
it was some months and David started protecting me, even
like with the other guys because I was the only
girl in the group of singing and he was always like, y'all,
don't harsh play singing group.
Speaker 8 (01:31):
Like, so, y'all know me Kirk Franklin and another guy,
Darren So Kirk Franklin, I've been friends for like forty
fifty fifteen, so.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
It's just but I just felt like, if it works out,
I said, I said, I really like this dude, but.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
You know, I just see wait and see, I just
play waves. Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Did his plays.
Speaker 8 (01:53):
She actually busted me one time with my with a
couple other girls that I was with.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
I was just looking, I just looked, you bust yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
They threw me a surprise birthday party. Both girls.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
No, well we were no, they just we were all
this friends and how you invite people to Okay, we're
gonna do this and listen, we're meeting at this house.
We're meeting at this house. But he brought somebody with him,
so that we didn't know he was gonna bring somebody.
But it was just people that we all knew, and
so happened. A couple of them that knew and then
his new piece.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
I guess he had known. It was back in the day,
and let's go back.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
It was like nineteen, you know, we like nineteen years
old at the time, So you know that was That's.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
About the man lived breath, didn't breathe through it.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
He's nervous.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I didn't wonder know how much did you come running
over with women, David?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
How much I was doing a little much.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
That's why I wouldn't for real, That's why I wouldn't
hook up with her, because she was my friend and
I knew once I started.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
That is it.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That was it. She wouldn't go in.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
I know that once I said I do, I am,
I will, and here I am.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
How did you know that? I want brothers to know?
Speaker 6 (03:06):
How did you know this is the one I'm gonna
put all my play aways through the side.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's what I want to be for the rest of it.
She was just different, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
She she just wasn't the same.
Speaker 8 (03:14):
But she was somebody I could call when I was
in trouble washing I had to wash dishes and stuff.
I call her and talk and watched dishes. What you're doing.
I'm sitting here washing dishes. What you're doing. And so
it was just we would just have that conversation just
about everything, like she knew about She actually knew my baby,
Mam and them before me, so she knew about all
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of them, everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So when I decided, okay, let me cut this out.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
I started calling, Hey, you may want to come and
get this last little hit because I'm about to get
into something for life.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And boom is it?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Wow? I thought the girl come get one last, gonna
get passed.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
That sounds crazy, no, but I just I just.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Knew for real, she just had something different.
Speaker 8 (04:03):
And you know, we can say it's different, but you know,
me being a believer, I know it was the anointing
that she had on it that was different. So I couldn't.
I wasn't gonna be able to play her. And then
I knew she was gonna be famous. So I got
her presidant, trapped her.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
And you know, you did not know that, you did
not know, but it's really been a wonderful ride.
Speaker 9 (04:22):
Y'all.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Marriage can work. I mean, it takes work, but we
really enjoy each other's company and I like him. We
like each other. We're not just in love, but we
really like and love each other and hanging out doing
nothing is fun to us.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
And you know that's the problem getting some of the
interviews like this is because you know, we've they've pitched
us to do interviews as a couple.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Has he cheated on it?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Now he's not cheating on it?
Speaker 8 (04:46):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Does he have something else going on? Anybody something?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Yeah, It's like it's like you can't get interview if
you're doing good. You know, it's like the world thrives
off of the negative. It's like the positive that people
and that it can work and talking about family and
trying to whole family together.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
I mean, because you know.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's just somebody put online the other day. They can't
be that happy. They fake. Yeah, that's fake.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
That's people say that all the time. Yeah, we see
they say that all the time. And the reason is
because they're not happy in their life.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So if they can't see how you guys are not happy,
I was gonna ask, so what do you tell young
couples because you said something.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You said, ya, you've been together that and never separation.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Me and my wife we've been married twenty three years,
been together thirty one, no separations, right. We work through everything, good, bad, ugly, whatever.
So what do you tell young couples.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
We took the voice off the couple. We took the
voice off the table. And the thing is is to
sometimes you gotta just separate in for instance, in the house,
to just gather your thoughts versus like throwing venom, like
at the heat of the moment. Sometimes you just have
to back up, Okay, just take a minute and digest
what's happening versus so you won't say pierce I say
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piercing things. I've been saying that since the beginning, because
you can say stuff when you're angry, and then you
can't you can't take that words back because no matter
if somebody say, I'm sorry and I forgive you, but
in the back of.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
Your head you say you never try to resolve issues
in the middle of a battle. I mean, you just
let it calm down a little period, just cool it
off a little bit. When you're trying to resolve stuff
in the middle of war, it gets a little hard
because you know early on, like she say just I'm
quick with quickly in my mouth quickly, so I would
just say piercing stuff. And I just started to see
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how man, this is devastating this woman.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's crushing her. So you know, I just started building
her up.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
What's the worst.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Battle that you guys got into that You remember that
it was just nasty and you was going at her neck.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
She was going at your neck.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
So like we talk, the knock at the door, the
knock at the door, knock at the door.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Imagine this.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Imagine she's at work, you at the house, and the
constable knock on the door and say, hey, here you go.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Hear the papers, you've been served.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You've been served?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Say served with what?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
What?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Oh? You have a baby?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Like what I gotta new?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And so she comes home and it's like, hey, how
your day being? I'm good?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's how long y'all were married at this time?
Speaker 8 (07:07):
Married five years by this time, So before I got married,
when them last to come by, the last.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Little hit yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
And so imagine her coming home and say, hey, how
your day?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
All my day was good? What you do today? Oh,
I got us another baby.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
That's how you said it.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Took you some time, take him some time to get
it out.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
I rehearsed it because on the way home, Oka, I'm
gonna tell her like this, so you know, you remember, No,
I can't say it that way.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So you know the time and I I just tried to.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
I had to come and say, dear, you know I
might have a child, uh that you know that I had.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
And the thing is is he he had to.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
He had to, he said from a previous argument. That's
what he calls it.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
So but they, you know, two.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Different lady daughters.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
So it's like I told him iself.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Okay, Now I accepted the one because I was there
when she was born, because.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
We was she was at the hospital.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I went to the hospital when when she was born.
The whole twenty one hours, y'all sit there. But as
he came and said this to me about the other
young lady, which I knew about the other young lady,
and I knew that they had been intimate. I knew
they had a thing going and all of that. But
for how it was presented, it's like it was just
it was rough for me to take. You know, I
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was like, I don't know because the chick, you know,
God bless her. We're in a better place now. But
then she was rough to deal with.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Right hand on them.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I didn't putting the Holy hands on you. I just
had We had words, but not even to what. They
don't do that. I don't think they aired his stuff.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
Don't put me out there like that. Somebody makes them
try me what I am? But I'm licensed? How about that?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Holy bullets?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So how did you get how did you get through it?
Speaker 7 (09:00):
But I just you know what. We talked about it,
and David really pulled me before.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
We got that. It got really bad because she was
like I can't deal with this. I'm out. And I
shared with her like, look, it's me and you against everything.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
That's the breakdown he gave you.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
It's me and you against everything else. Because I know
that this is a hard situation to swallow. I know
I put us in a bad situation. I tell my
kids now, I say, look, I put you in a
bad situation because now you got to go.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Over to your mom's house for Christmas. Okay, I'm going
to have Thanksgiving.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
I say, that's a hard place to put kids, and
I say, I take full responsibility. I mean, my two
old daughter's best thing ever happened. You see them now.
I went to get the blood tests. You know how
you going to do the test? And I was gonna
go in and do a test.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
And you know, the first ain't baby, probably ain't mine.
That baby ain't mine.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
So by now she's five and I walk in the
place and I look down at this little face.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We ain't got to take No, her face is exactly
like mine.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
I was like, no, I say, dear, we gotta just
what she said to you. You're gonna give me.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You're gonna give me that check. My god.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But it was, it was.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
It was both of us as parents that put that
kid in that bad situation, and our relationship, my relationship
with with her is like man, I just.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Love both of them.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
It's no clue to the knock of the door, Like right,
I mean, you know there was murmurs, you know it was,
but I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Of course, I wasn't gonna volunteer yet, like bring another
one on, But.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
At the door.
Speaker 10 (10:38):
I then not at the door never happened. You would
have just like the murmurs would have been there like
you never wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
I don't know if I was even mature enough to
say yes on that. Yeah, that's the whole deal, is.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Matrenest is like if you didn't because like I said,
we knew that that da had been involved, It's like,
but it's a possibility.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
And you saw the baby.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
But to me, she looked like him and she looked
like her, so it's like she was a great mixture
of the two. But when David told me the resolve
for me, dj and was that it's he did the
spark thing.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
He said, it's us, and then it's them.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
It's everybody, he said, So you never have to worry
about me choosing you over them because it's us first
and in them.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
So that gave me a reassurance and reship.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I wouldn't have to be fighting to just have a
to have my place because I knew that I had
the papers. But still, you don't want to be warrying
with someone else over just stuff that's even outside of
your home.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
How did you block out the noise right? Because I'm
sure you had friends and girlfriends leave him.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
He's this that, and but it written no one, no
one really honestly did come to me like that. Because
the thing is is we were in a small community.
A lot of us we were yeah, we were church kids.
We was in church singing and all this kind of stuff.
So all of us did know each other and knew
that they had been what they did, you know, doing what.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
You did, you know, being involved.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
So yeah, so but if people didn't really they knew
me as a person and they knew her as a person.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
So it's like she had her reputation. I had mine.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
And it's like, no one really never stepped to me
and said anything crazy like that, but they was willing
to defend me.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Now.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Mind you, when we wrote this book and I put
the chapter the Knock at the Door at it, girl,
he was cheating on you all the time.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's like, do the math read the book. Just go
read the book. You know, girl, I knew he was cheating.
It's like you just got to read and just follow it.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
But that's how we living, and we breathing and we
fight through all the things. You know, thirty six years later,
we're still building, We're still living because we just believe
that heaven is our destiny. You know, we're breathing every
breath with purpose. We believe that we have a call,
we have a purpose to do what we do, even
to inspire people that follow us in relationships. I mean,
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this is like you said that everybody wanting us to
do this together. Lord, they do and they expect to
see us. It's like when you see one, it's like,
okay with yours man, you're out here by yourself.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
No, he's here. It's like he just stepped.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
They trust me.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
I've been trying to lay in the cut while we've
been doing this promo tour and the same thank you.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
We fighting together. We're doing this together.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I mean, I don't see y'all a part. Y'all are
really tagged team back again.
Speaker 10 (13:14):
Every it was complete when y'all are together.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
And if and that's that's the I love the completion
of it because he completes me. And my prayer is like, Lord,
please give us more time, give us more time together.
And it's like it's like I don't know if I
can do life without without him, without.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
God with beautiful.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But it's the truth though, because it's like it is
really a completion. David pushed me into this. I mean,
he helped me to get to this point as an artist.
He helped developed me as an artist. And it's like
even when even when it comes to like interviews, y'all,
this man with us being the same age, but he's
walked me through life, it makes me almost in tears
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right now because it's like, I'm really grateful, I'm really grateful,
I'm thankful for you, and I really just having the
opportunity no to even to be you know, to be
transparent and even show people our lives.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
It's not a joke.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
It's it's really serious that he is my friend and
we really have a good time together, but we don't
base it off of the things. And a lot of times,
I think in our life, especially in our culture, we
build things like it has to be about the gifts
and what we're doing with each other and what we're
going and what we drive, and it is.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
On the caps together broke. That was an understatement. We
were broken and broken.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
And I think that's what's missing a lot of times,
like even when I look at my wife or Charlamane.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Looks at his wife. We came up from the bottom.
We didn't have anything.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
It was just love. It wasn't about a check. It
wasn't about expensive to us with red Lobster like.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Too scared, too scared. It was around it, but it
was too scared to do that.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
That got you all to get into shape because you said,
you know, you wanted to live like you wanted more times.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That would mean I said, you know what, getting I.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Had whole diabetes scare and all this stuff, and were
just like, man, we gotta do something.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I can't leave it here byself.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
It's just too much going on, just seeing the craziness
and I'm just like, I can't leave it here byself.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I got to get myself together.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And so that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We just a work in progress.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You know, this is a good man. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Working from the inside out.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
I think the importance of it is like this record
and doing it is like mentally working, coming from a
mental space, coming from building a body, doing differently, making
better decisions for the body. And that thing is like,
so we can be here longer together.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
And I was telling you off air, thank you so
much for what you're doing in this mental health space.
It means a lot to me as a black man
and somebody who's expected to make the world feel good.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And I was like I shared it.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
I was embarrassed to come out with my story of
depression and making it and to hear stories like you
yours and you're talking just putting it in the forefront.
It makes people like me say good, I can share
mine without being embarrassed because I was embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Really, I mean, like.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
But why embarrassment though, because people astract me.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Every time to come out and perform funny funny. You
gotta be you, mister Brown. You make the world laugh.
Like you said, I grew up. I'm a family like okay,
So people expect that, and so they don't know in
the background you dying literally dying and drowning. And so
when people like you come out and you know, make
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it known, Hey, it's cool. I have a therapist and
I have Jesus and so you know.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I just all of your lives, what y'all give. I
think it's important that all of us bring what we
bring to the table. I feel like this pie is
big enough for all of us to have a piece
to share it. We can help somebody, I mean, one
of our messages how to get to somebody. I mean,
my god, I mean it's like with the platforms that
we have. We should be able to help encourage somebody
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from any walk of life. I just feel like we're
sent here, not just for us. We're sitting here to
help all Walkum. This album is to live, breathing, and
fight even though you're facing the things you're facing.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
The songs excuse me.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Excuse me on here talking about carry on even though
that you've dealt with mental health or different different things
in your family, or whatever your issues may be. We
have to carry on. We deserve to win after you've
done and been through the miss and the upbringers that
we've came out of. We deserve to win. You deserve
to have some nice things. You deserve to have a
smile on your face to be you.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Find somebody I've been watching.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
She don't pray about it, don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
She was kind of like you early on.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
She was a player.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
To what she's been doing radio.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
You know, I did not start out player player.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I wouldn't be. You messed up. You said I didn't
start out playing.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
I mean once you. I wasn't a player. I was
I'm sinking meeting people, you know, And.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Now she kicks the same game to the same guys,
and they figured it out to the fact that two
gentlemen said, you need to fix yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You need to get there.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
He first of all two men told us you need
to heal him, and one.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
Of them on lasted till Sunday after homecoming because you
needed to hear no, because he don't get me started.
But a lot of it be deflecting and capt the language.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
She knew she'd be calling these guys things like eaters.
Y'all know about that.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
My best eater, not.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Say that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I don't say that in the phone eat up to
best eating.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
That is not true. I would, but I think we
should come down to but when.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
But when you're looking at being found, I think we
have to make a list of what we're wanting in
a relationship, and then you become the list. So we
become the list. And just like one of the songs
is called big Facts, that's on this My Fun song.
But it's like looking in the mirror, examining yourself, fixing yourself.
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So when he finds you you're ready, it's like you're
making ready. It's not like you just said he finds
a good thing. You find favor. We bring the favor.
Women don't realize that when you a man, a man
finds you and connects with you, you are the favor to
the relationship, and favor goes way beyond money. So it's
like you want to be It's like I don't understand it,
(19:47):
but it's like I found these things out later in
life that I have value, that I have, I have
a purpose. And again a call.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
But first of all, don't say, Lauren need it because
a lot of okay, they don't understand it.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
No, no, no, no, no, I don't receive man.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
She takes a man of scripture Proverbs eighteen twenty one
talk about a life and different the power of the tongue.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
What is true?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I did not send that. Did you say that?
Speaker 10 (20:21):
I wouldn't because why would y'all play in front of
guy face like that. Okay, I would never say in
a proverb talk about my best eater, my pastor would
have your.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Tongue help me, Lord help?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That was too easy of a joke. She's just like, yeah,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Know what you're doing, but don't but don't take that,
will you just know what you want and it's okay
to have standards.
Speaker 10 (20:49):
And but you said that you've realized later in life
about your value. It forgets, but it takes time for
you to get to a certain point where you feel like, Okay,
now I'm ready to enter back into things. I just
feel like some men and don't understand where you're taking
that time that that doesn't mean that you're lonely or
without it's just you know, you need that time.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
I stepped away from something.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
See that's when y'all say for her taking her time
for that's the healing process, right. So she is in
the process of being here, so y'all just have to
it's her way.
Speaker 10 (21:19):
Honestly, I got be with the whole.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Sorry for them, that's okay. I brought y'all into this,
and I did not know as long as you know.
I know, and I know these guys. Y'all stop teasing her.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Are you going to come here and try to mom
or somebody?
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Because I'm just old. I'm just I'm the oldest in here.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
I did take time before I started dating. I took
I took a lot of time because it was a
long relationship that I was in and then I got
side and now here come these two.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But I see God working on.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
One of my titles hands around. But I have a
song on this called Power talking about the Power God.
You should listen to it. It's a good one. The
Power is really just talking about how just how the
Lord just maneuvers and how his power just happens over things,
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and just how he just holds us. I mean, it's
just amazing how God just really protects us when we
don't know that we being protected. We think we out
here doing it ourselves, but the Lord is really shielding us.
So it's just it's just really a blessing to be
able to bring good you know. My hope is that
it's good music and people can be healed and have
inspiration from it.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
I was going to ask about Lord, I trust you
right because you know to what you're speaking about now.
You say, when the sun's not shining down on me,
when the chaost is overwhelming, my peace for my life
is spending out of control.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
When I lose my grip and I start to let go, Lord,
I trust you.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
How hard is it to put your trust in God
when things aren't going well?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
It could be hard to me. That's when I have
a real good cry. I just get in my I
get in my car a lot because my car to
me is like I can get.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Away from everything and I don't have to hear anything.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
It's like that. But in my closet it's like a
prayer closet, and in my car, but it's like because God,
it's like I don't understand what's happening right now, this
last year and half of things and things coming to me,
like I can't believe that I'm in this situation. I
can't believe that I'm having a fight just.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
To prove who I am. And I thought I.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Was doing that, but it's like, Okay, Lord, I trust you.
I trust that you're gonna handle it. And then that's
when the song too came for me working for me,
that the Lord just gave me a stamp of approval.
You may not see me at work, but I'm working
in your behalf, that he's working for me, bless you.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
So it's just I just take.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Comfort in knowing that he is my God and he
is my help. He's my present help in the time
of storm, that even when I don't see and nobody
else is around, he's there and I can go to
him and I ain't got to worry about him.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
My business being in the Street.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
That's why testimony is so important though, right, because I
like to hear other people's stories and what they've been
through and what.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They overcoming of it, overcoming the overcoming. Sure was overcomer,
and that's the thing is. And the Lord has allowed
me to finish the work, even to the extent of
even with my body. I finally found I reached the
goal of like even the weight loss that I was
trying to do so, but to even spiritually become a writer,
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like I wrote on this, Like I gave direction on
every song on this album. So it's like things that
I'm proving to myself and showing, Like Lord, you know,
I wrote the plan down and I'm following through with
the plan.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Working for me.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
That was your eleventh number one, right, Yes, you've watched
the record of all time numbers.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Wow, and Kirk, we're tired.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
We're tired for number one.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
But I didn't. I mean, you don't see this stuff coming.
You hope people gon like the music and enjoy it.
But it's like when it happened, I don't even look
at the charge y'all.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
They have.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
They tell me, working for me, you lean into the
country music. Yeah, so I know and I know Kirk
Franklin is known for dibblin dabling different beats and sounds
and stuff like that. Have you thought about, like what
you know it would be like for you to do
other stars, of bringing other stars like the R and
B or like anything secular but making it gospel kind
of how he does a bit.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
But I kind of have some balanced this close to
I would say maybe R and B.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
I've had a little.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
If we did do a love project Us against the
World that I did, Like I have a song that
Kyle feels I sing a song is Carl feel like
it's really a straight R and B song. We didn't
push it, but I think it would have really did well.
But I just still want people to think that I
was trying to do R and B music, that I
still want to stay in my genre because I feel like, again,
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like I said earlier, we all have a part of
part to play.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
And really she was afraid of what people I did.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I was. I was.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I was very fearful and it was like I was
fighting them, but I was dragging my feet. It's like
I feel like if I can hear whatever, I could
sing whatever. You know, like when you say the country music.
It's like I'm country, y'all. Y'all hear in my just
how I talk. But I know about the chickens and
the hogs.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I was raised actually in the country, so it's like
those things to me. It's like I've been stretched and
people just don't. I think once you hear a lot
of times we only listen to people's single that they
have at but we really don't go listen to the
body of And.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Even with the Love Project we did, she was afraid,
like of what people were gonna think. I'm in the studio,
I got my chest hairs and I got much sunshape.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm doing my best R and.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
B what I mean, let the lights damn.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I was yeah, she.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Was like, just I said, that is not how you sing.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
But then I realized she was afraid of what the
church crowd was gonna, you know, think of her.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
But once I thought about it, It's like I'm singing
to the love of my life.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I'm singing to him. I'm not singing for y'all per se.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I mean, thank God for everybody, but I was singing
to him and the song is you make me feel
like I'm on top of the world and.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
When it's the truth, he does.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
So it's like when you hear this song, it's like
it just brings it all to life of like me
talking straight to him or him, you know, feeling like
when he touched me. It's just it's just he still
he's still give me goosebumps.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
So it's like.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
They don't do that because you don't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Don't do that right now, y'all married? Why can't you
married people have that.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
It's true, but it's just a society that we live in.
It's like our people, we can't be judgmental. We could
be the most loving, but we also can be the
most judgmental when it comes to Christian people.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I don't understand that about Christianity. I'm not gonna one
of the first things they teach you.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And I love being on this side, but I don't
know why we are like that.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
But it's it just it does have to be a separation, no, y'all,
it has It's just you know, there, this just has
to be. I wouldn't come and look for you to
do certain things, just like you probably wouldn't expect for
me to do certain things. And it's not judgmental. You
just it's just like what you represented. You just that's
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just kind of like like with your parents. Just like
sometimes even some like our kids like to talk about six.
They don't want us to talk about six. So it's like,
but it's just like people were doing. People don't want
to hear certain things from certain people. So it's not
I don't think all of it is. I would say judging.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
It's just you just what would Jesus do?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Could you see him just pull back on one get out?
Burning brush was to bring a message, did you say?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Again?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
His father created burning.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Bush was not for you to him smoking. No, the
bush was being burnt to show as a sacrifice.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
Sacrifice in the bush that I'm talking about.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
No, not they cookn't green.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
God creates everything for a purpose. God created marijuana.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
He did.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
But but it wasn't for us to just to be
like joy healing. It's healing. It's for healing. It's not
for us to just be like I'm gonna get get
one and I'm just in my class because I got people.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
This young man, I ain't gonna mention his name, but
he said, my man, I.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Love your album. And when I'm there, man, I'm going.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Straight to church.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
It's like, but he happened, he said, Man, he said
I had the best church.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I said, I said, come on you, he said, but
he says true though, he said, I just have better
church when I when I don't get high.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
He listened to your album.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
He is going listen to.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
You got to meet people where Jesus.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
I love him to him on the phone.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
I mean I take time. I take time with people
because it's like, once you really get to know me,
I really am a mama mama and I'm I ain't
and ain'ty, so it's like and I'm for everybody, like
you know, I love to cook for everybody. So my
Man's kitchen is another thing that I'm doing. But it's
just I just love people and I just love I
just feel like I should be able to we should
be able to wrap and talk about everything.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I don't think you just got high.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'm gonna push you.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Why do you think all the people thought he was
walking on water. He turned the water into wine, so
that's the alcohol. And then he turned the fish, the
fish and the bread.
Speaker 11 (30:46):
He moved the fly to everybody, that's the monkey.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Man know, man that is the monkey.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
See why you always on him?
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Come on, come on getting this. This is I'm with you,
this is your time.
Speaker 10 (30:59):
What I'm doing, I'm allowing him to jump off the
cliff on his own, and we're gonna watch him.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Jesus know, my heart, he's working on.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
You, and he's working on his still Lord, live, live,
breathing like I.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Can't believe some of the stuff he said.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
He talked so like like you be telling me he
talk too much.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
No, no, no, he says. It's so aggressive and with
so much force that you think is true. Right, he's
been up here for fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
The burning bush was dead.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Jesus was smoking, burning But there's a lot of people
out there listening.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Jesus was smoking, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Like real believer, like you really you know the words.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
That was not God, the most high, he is.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
The most said something. You said something people and listen.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
To him they do and you that's misleading and got.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
That, Mama, God, God if I did anything wrong, my heart.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
God to the album for all of us. Let me leave,
let's leave in the building.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Can we play some.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Records of what you want to hear? Right now? Uh?
Speaker 7 (32:16):
Deserve the win is my my new single.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, deserve you.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Deserve the win.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Matter of fact, let's play both because I don't know
if I might go to hell after what I just said.
Let's play both just in case. Wait he said, what
both working for me.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
And trying to bring God on in here?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And double time?
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Now now you see it, double you were just smoking
with God. Now all right, I told you he's working tonight.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
That man, you gotta say a prayer before we get
up out of here.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Father God, we thank you for this day.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
We thank you for this opportunity to be before your people.
Where should just bless us, Lord God, bring inspiration understanding
to all of us, God in every area that we need,
and touch those that are having problems for us in
their minds. Lord God, to just bring and lift every
weight off of us. On God, we just give you
glory for this opportunity. Thank you for the Breakfast Club,
thank you for what they bring for our people. And
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we give you glory for everything that you're doing Jesus name, Amen, Amen, Amen.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
We appreciate you for always a pleasure man.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Pock up the album out right now, live, breathe and fight,
and remember.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
You live and keep breathing, keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
God did not smoke the burner.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
He did not. It was That's not it. It was
for sacrifice. Come on, get out of there.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
It's the breakfast, Breakfast.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Breakfast Club.
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Morning.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Everybody's j n V Jess Hilaris Charlamagne the Guy. We
are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Justice on maternity leave, so Laura Leroza is filling in,
and we got some special guests in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We have Tamala and David Man.
Speaker 5 (00:17):
Welcome, what though, thank you, thank you, thank you for
having good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Now. Just in case y'all wondering why I'm here. I
walked in the door and she sit down. Yes, ma'am,
I'm in your house.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Because Man is here to promote her new album Live
Brief Fight.
Speaker 6 (00:34):
But I mean, y'all been doing things together forever, like
y'all even know life without each other?
Speaker 7 (00:39):
No, and I don't marry either.
Speaker 8 (00:41):
Look, we got married at twenty one, so we've been
married thirty six years.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's a long time.
Speaker 7 (00:46):
I have no separations.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I like to say that there you go.
Speaker 7 (00:50):
We worked through it.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
Did y'all know as soon as y'all saw each other,
like she did because that kind of guy.
Speaker 7 (00:55):
No, No, we did not.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But we were just friends.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
But it wasn't long after though, that I knew. But
I wouldn't let him know that I that I felt
like I felt like he was the one, but I
was like, I don't know, because you know, David had
a little play in him.
Speaker 9 (01:13):
When did I realize it was probably it was really
some months that because we started singing together early, so
it was some months and David started protecting me, even
like with the other guys because I was the only
girl in the group of singing and he was always like, y'all,
don't harsh play singing group.
Speaker 8 (01:31):
Like, so, y'all know me Kirk Franklin and another guy,
Darren So Kirk Franklin, I've been friends for like forty
fifty fifteen, so.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
It's just but I just felt like, if it works out,
I said, I said, I really like this dude, but.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
You know, I just see wait and see, I just
play waves. Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Did his plays.
Speaker 8 (01:53):
She actually busted me one time with my with a
couple other girls that I was with.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
I was just looking, I just looked, you bust yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
They threw me a surprise birthday party. Both girls.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
No, well we were no, they just we were all
this friends and how you invite people to Okay, we're
gonna do this and listen, we're meeting at this house.
We're meeting at this house. But he brought somebody with him,
so that we didn't know he was gonna bring somebody.
But it was just people that we all knew, and
so happened. A couple of them that knew and then
his new piece.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
I guess he had known. It was back in the day,
and let's go back.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
It was like nineteen, you know, we like nineteen years
old at the time, So you know that was That's.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
About the man lived breath, didn't breathe through it.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
He's nervous.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I didn't wonder know how much did you come running
over with women, David?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
How much I was doing a little much.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
That's why I wouldn't for real, That's why I wouldn't
hook up with her, because she was my friend and
I knew once I started.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
That is it.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That was it. She wouldn't go in.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
I know that once I said I do, I am,
I will, and here I am.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
How did you know that? I want brothers to know?
Speaker 6 (03:06):
How did you know this is the one I'm gonna
put all my play aways through the side.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's what I want to be for the rest of it.
She was just different, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
She she just wasn't the same.
Speaker 8 (03:14):
But she was somebody I could call when I was
in trouble washing I had to wash dishes and stuff.
I call her and talk and watched dishes. What you're doing.
I'm sitting here washing dishes. What you're doing. And so
it was just we would just have that conversation just
about everything, like she knew about She actually knew my baby,
Mam and them before me, so she knew about all
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of them, everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So when I decided, okay, let me cut this out.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
I started calling, Hey, you may want to come and
get this last little hit because I'm about to get
into something for life.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And boom is it?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Wow? I thought the girl come get one last, gonna
get passed.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
That sounds crazy, no, but I just I just.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Knew for real, she just had something different.
Speaker 8 (04:03):
And you know, we can say it's different, but you know,
me being a believer, I know it was the anointing
that she had on it that was different. So I couldn't.
I wasn't gonna be able to play her. And then
I knew she was gonna be famous. So I got
her presidant, trapped her.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
And you know, you did not know that, you did
not know, but it's really been a wonderful ride.
Speaker 9 (04:22):
Y'all.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Marriage can work. I mean, it takes work, but we
really enjoy each other's company and I like him. We
like each other. We're not just in love, but we
really like and love each other and hanging out doing
nothing is fun to us.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
And you know that's the problem getting some of the
interviews like this is because you know, we've they've pitched
us to do interviews as a couple.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Has he cheated on it?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Now he's not cheating on it?
Speaker 8 (04:46):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Does he have something else going on? Anybody something?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Yeah, It's like it's like you can't get interview if
you're doing good. You know, it's like the world thrives
off of the negative. It's like the positive that people
and that it can work and talking about family and
trying to whole family together.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
I mean, because you know.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's just somebody put online the other day. They can't
be that happy. They fake. Yeah, that's fake.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
That's people say that all the time. Yeah, we see
they say that all the time. And the reason is
because they're not happy in their life.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So if they can't see how you guys are not happy,
I was gonna ask, so what do you tell young
couples because you said something.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You said, ya, you've been together that and never separation.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Me and my wife we've been married twenty three years,
been together thirty one, no separations, right. We work through everything, good, bad, ugly, whatever.
So what do you tell young couples.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
We took the voice off the couple. We took the
voice off the table. And the thing is is to
sometimes you gotta just separate in for instance, in the house,
to just gather your thoughts versus like throwing venom, like
at the heat of the moment. Sometimes you just have
to back up, Okay, just take a minute and digest
what's happening versus so you won't say pierce I say
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piercing things. I've been saying that since the beginning, because
you can say stuff when you're angry, and then you
can't you can't take that words back because no matter
if somebody say, I'm sorry and I forgive you, but
in the back of.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
Your head you say you never try to resolve issues
in the middle of a battle. I mean, you just
let it calm down a little period, just cool it
off a little bit. When you're trying to resolve stuff
in the middle of war, it gets a little hard
because you know early on, like she say just I'm
quick with quickly in my mouth quickly, so I would
just say piercing stuff. And I just started to see
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how man, this is devastating this woman.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's crushing her. So you know, I just started building
her up.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
What's the worst.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Battle that you guys got into that You remember that
it was just nasty and you was going at her neck.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
She was going at your neck.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
So like we talk, the knock at the door, the
knock at the door, knock at the door.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Imagine this.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Imagine she's at work, you at the house, and the
constable knock on the door and say, hey, here you go.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Hear the papers, you've been served.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You've been served?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Say served with what?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
What?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Oh? You have a baby?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Like what I gotta new?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And so she comes home and it's like, hey, how
your day being? I'm good?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's how long y'all were married at this time?
Speaker 8 (07:07):
Married five years by this time, So before I got married,
when them last to come by, the last.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Little hit yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
And so imagine her coming home and say, hey, how
your day?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
All my day was good? What you do today? Oh,
I got us another baby.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
That's how you said it.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Took you some time, take him some time to get
it out.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
I rehearsed it because on the way home, Oka, I'm
gonna tell her like this, so you know, you remember, No,
I can't say it that way.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So you know the time and I I just tried to.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
I had to come and say, dear, you know I
might have a child, uh that you know that I had.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
And the thing is is he he had to.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
He had to, he said from a previous argument. That's
what he calls it.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
So but they, you know, two.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Different lady daughters.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
So it's like I told him iself.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Okay, Now I accepted the one because I was there
when she was born, because.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
We was she was at the hospital.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I went to the hospital when when she was born.
The whole twenty one hours, y'all sit there. But as
he came and said this to me about the other
young lady, which I knew about the other young lady,
and I knew that they had been intimate. I knew
they had a thing going and all of that. But
for how it was presented, it's like it was just
it was rough for me to take. You know, I
(08:32):
was like, I don't know because the chick, you know,
God bless her. We're in a better place now. But
then she was rough to deal with.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Right hand on them.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I didn't putting the Holy hands on you. I just
had We had words, but not even to what. They
don't do that. I don't think they aired his stuff.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
Don't put me out there like that. Somebody makes them
try me what I am? But I'm licensed? How about that?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Holy bullets?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So how did you get how did you get through it?
Speaker 7 (09:00):
But I just you know what. We talked about it,
and David really pulled me before.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
We got that. It got really bad because she was
like I can't deal with this. I'm out. And I
shared with her like, look, it's me and you against everything.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
That's the breakdown he gave you.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
It's me and you against everything else. Because I know
that this is a hard situation to swallow. I know
I put us in a bad situation. I tell my
kids now, I say, look, I put you in a
bad situation because now you got to go.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Over to your mom's house for Christmas. Okay, I'm going
to have Thanksgiving.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
I say, that's a hard place to put kids, and
I say, I take full responsibility. I mean, my two
old daughter's best thing ever happened. You see them now.
I went to get the blood tests. You know how
you going to do the test? And I was gonna
go in and do a test.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
And you know, the first ain't baby, probably ain't mine.
That baby ain't mine.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
So by now she's five and I walk in the
place and I look down at this little face.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We ain't got to take No, her face is exactly
like mine.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
I was like, no, I say, dear, we gotta just
what she said to you. You're gonna give me.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You're gonna give me that check. My god.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But it was, it was.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
It was both of us as parents that put that
kid in that bad situation, and our relationship, my relationship
with with her is like man, I just.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Love both of them.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
It's no clue to the knock of the door, Like right,
I mean, you know there was murmurs, you know it was,
but I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Of course, I wasn't gonna volunteer yet, like bring another
one on, But.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
At the door.
Speaker 10 (10:38):
I then not at the door never happened. You would
have just like the murmurs would have been there like
you never wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
I don't know if I was even mature enough to
say yes on that. Yeah, that's the whole deal, is.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Matrenest is like if you didn't because like I said,
we knew that that da had been involved, It's like,
but it's a possibility.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
And you saw the baby.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
But to me, she looked like him and she looked
like her, so it's like she was a great mixture
of the two. But when David told me the resolve
for me, dj and was that it's he did the
spark thing.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
He said, it's us, and then it's them.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
It's everybody, he said, So you never have to worry
about me choosing you over them because it's us first
and in them.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
So that gave me a reassurance and reship.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I wouldn't have to be fighting to just have a
to have my place because I knew that I had
the papers. But still, you don't want to be warrying
with someone else over just stuff that's even outside of
your home.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
How did you block out the noise right? Because I'm
sure you had friends and girlfriends leave him.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
He's this that, and but it written no one, no
one really honestly did come to me like that. Because
the thing is is we were in a small community.
A lot of us we were yeah, we were church kids.
We was in church singing and all this kind of stuff.
So all of us did know each other and knew
that they had been what they did, you know, doing what.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
You did, you know, being involved.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
So yeah, so but if people didn't really they knew
me as a person and they knew her as a person.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
So it's like she had her reputation. I had mine.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
And it's like, no one really never stepped to me
and said anything crazy like that, but they was willing
to defend me.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Now.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Mind you, when we wrote this book and I put
the chapter the Knock at the Door at it, girl,
he was cheating on you all the time.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's like, do the math read the book. Just go
read the book. You know, girl, I knew he was cheating.
It's like you just got to read and just follow it.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
But that's how we living, and we breathing and we
fight through all the things. You know, thirty six years later,
we're still building, We're still living because we just believe
that heaven is our destiny. You know, we're breathing every
breath with purpose. We believe that we have a call,
we have a purpose to do what we do, even
to inspire people that follow us in relationships. I mean,
(12:54):
this is like you said that everybody wanting us to
do this together. Lord, they do and they expect to
see us. It's like when you see one, it's like,
okay with yours man, you're out here by yourself.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
No, he's here. It's like he just stepped.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
They trust me.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
I've been trying to lay in the cut while we've
been doing this promo tour and the same thank you.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
We fighting together. We're doing this together.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I mean, I don't see y'all a part. Y'all are
really tagged team back again.
Speaker 10 (13:14):
Every it was complete when y'all are together.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
And if and that's that's the I love the completion
of it because he completes me. And my prayer is like, Lord,
please give us more time, give us more time together.
And it's like it's like I don't know if I
can do life without without him, without.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
God with beautiful.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But it's the truth though, because it's like it is
really a completion. David pushed me into this. I mean,
he helped me to get to this point as an artist.
He helped developed me as an artist. And it's like
even when even when it comes to like interviews, y'all,
this man with us being the same age, but he's
walked me through life, it makes me almost in tears
(13:54):
right now because it's like, I'm really grateful, I'm really grateful,
I'm thankful for you, and I really just having the
opportunity no to even to be you know, to be
transparent and even show people our lives.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
It's not a joke.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
It's it's really serious that he is my friend and
we really have a good time together, but we don't
base it off of the things. And a lot of times,
I think in our life, especially in our culture, we
build things like it has to be about the gifts
and what we're doing with each other and what we're
going and what we drive, and it is.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
On the caps together broke. That was an understatement. We
were broken and broken.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
And I think that's what's missing a lot of times,
like even when I look at my wife or Charlamane.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Looks at his wife. We came up from the bottom.
We didn't have anything.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
It was just love. It wasn't about a check. It
wasn't about expensive to us with red Lobster like.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Too scared, too scared. It was around it, but it
was too scared to do that.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
That got you all to get into shape because you said,
you know, you wanted to live like you wanted more times.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That would mean I said, you know what, getting I.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Had whole diabetes scare and all this stuff, and were
just like, man, we gotta do something.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I can't leave it here byself.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
It's just too much going on, just seeing the craziness
and I'm just like, I can't leave it here byself.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I got to get myself together.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And so that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We just a work in progress.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You know, this is a good man. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Working from the inside out.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
I think the importance of it is like this record
and doing it is like mentally working, coming from a
mental space, coming from building a body, doing differently, making
better decisions for the body. And that thing is like,
so we can be here longer together.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
And I was telling you off air, thank you so
much for what you're doing in this mental health space.
It means a lot to me as a black man
and somebody who's expected to make the world feel good.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And I was like I shared it.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
I was embarrassed to come out with my story of
depression and making it and to hear stories like you
yours and you're talking just putting it in the forefront.
It makes people like me say good, I can share
mine without being embarrassed because I was embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Really, I mean, like.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
But why embarrassment though, because people astract me.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Every time to come out and perform funny funny. You
gotta be you, mister Brown. You make the world laugh.
Like you said, I grew up. I'm a family like okay,
So people expect that, and so they don't know in
the background you dying literally dying and drowning. And so
when people like you come out and you know, make
(16:31):
it known, Hey, it's cool. I have a therapist and
I have Jesus and so you know.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I just all of your lives, what y'all give. I
think it's important that all of us bring what we
bring to the table. I feel like this pie is
big enough for all of us to have a piece
to share it. We can help somebody, I mean, one
of our messages how to get to somebody. I mean,
my god, I mean it's like with the platforms that
we have. We should be able to help encourage somebody
(16:58):
from any walk of life. I just feel like we're
sent here, not just for us. We're sitting here to
help all Walkum. This album is to live, breathing, and
fight even though you're facing the things you're facing.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
The songs excuse me.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Excuse me on here talking about carry on even though
that you've dealt with mental health or different different things
in your family, or whatever your issues may be. We
have to carry on. We deserve to win after you've
done and been through the miss and the upbringers that
we've came out of. We deserve to win. You deserve
to have some nice things. You deserve to have a
smile on your face to be you.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Find somebody I've been watching.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
She don't pray about it, don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
She was kind of like you early on.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
She was a player.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
To what she's been doing radio.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
You know, I did not start out player player.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I wouldn't be. You messed up. You said I didn't
start out playing.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
I mean once you. I wasn't a player. I was
I'm sinking meeting people, you know, And.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Now she kicks the same game to the same guys,
and they figured it out to the fact that two
gentlemen said, you need to fix yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You need to get there.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
He first of all two men told us you need
to heal him, and one.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
Of them on lasted till Sunday after homecoming because you
needed to hear no, because he don't get me started.
But a lot of it be deflecting and capt the language.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
She knew she'd be calling these guys things like eaters.
Y'all know about that.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
My best eater, not.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Say that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I don't say that in the phone eat up to
best eating.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
That is not true. I would, but I think we
should come down to but when.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
But when you're looking at being found, I think we
have to make a list of what we're wanting in
a relationship, and then you become the list. So we
become the list. And just like one of the songs
is called big Facts, that's on this My Fun song.
But it's like looking in the mirror, examining yourself, fixing yourself.
(19:25):
So when he finds you you're ready, it's like you're
making ready. It's not like you just said he finds
a good thing. You find favor. We bring the favor.
Women don't realize that when you a man, a man
finds you and connects with you, you are the favor to
the relationship, and favor goes way beyond money. So it's
like you want to be It's like I don't understand it,
(19:47):
but it's like I found these things out later in
life that I have value, that I have, I have
a purpose. And again a call.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
But first of all, don't say, Lauren need it because
a lot of okay, they don't understand it.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
No, no, no, no, no, I don't receive man.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
She takes a man of scripture Proverbs eighteen twenty one
talk about a life and different the power of the tongue.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
What is true?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I did not send that. Did you say that?
Speaker 10 (20:21):
I wouldn't because why would y'all play in front of
guy face like that. Okay, I would never say in
a proverb talk about my best eater, my pastor would
have your.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Tongue help me, Lord help?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That was too easy of a joke. She's just like, yeah,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Know what you're doing, but don't but don't take that,
will you just know what you want and it's okay
to have standards.
Speaker 10 (20:49):
And but you said that you've realized later in life
about your value. It forgets, but it takes time for
you to get to a certain point where you feel like, Okay,
now I'm ready to enter back into things. I just
feel like some men and don't understand where you're taking
that time that that doesn't mean that you're lonely or
without it's just you know, you need that time.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
I stepped away from something.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
See that's when y'all say for her taking her time
for that's the healing process, right. So she is in
the process of being here, so y'all just have to
it's her way.
Speaker 10 (21:19):
Honestly, I got be with the whole.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Sorry for them, that's okay. I brought y'all into this,
and I did not know as long as you know.
I know, and I know these guys. Y'all stop teasing her.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Are you going to come here and try to mom
or somebody?
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Because I'm just old. I'm just I'm the oldest in here.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
I did take time before I started dating. I took
I took a lot of time because it was a
long relationship that I was in and then I got
side and now here come these two.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But I see God working on.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
One of my titles hands around. But I have a
song on this called Power talking about the Power God.
You should listen to it. It's a good one. The
Power is really just talking about how just how the
Lord just maneuvers and how his power just happens over things,
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and just how he just holds us. I mean, it's
just amazing how God just really protects us when we
don't know that we being protected. We think we out
here doing it ourselves, but the Lord is really shielding us.
So it's just it's just really a blessing to be
able to bring good you know. My hope is that
it's good music and people can be healed and have
inspiration from it.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
I was going to ask about Lord, I trust you
right because you know to what you're speaking about now.
You say, when the sun's not shining down on me,
when the chaost is overwhelming, my peace for my life
is spending out of control.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
When I lose my grip and I start to let go, Lord,
I trust you.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
How hard is it to put your trust in God
when things aren't going well?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
It could be hard to me. That's when I have
a real good cry. I just get in my I
get in my car a lot because my car to
me is like I can get.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Away from everything and I don't have to hear anything.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
It's like that. But in my closet it's like a
prayer closet, and in my car, but it's like because God,
it's like I don't understand what's happening right now, this
last year and half of things and things coming to me,
like I can't believe that I'm in this situation. I
can't believe that I'm having a fight just.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
To prove who I am. And I thought I.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Was doing that, but it's like, Okay, Lord, I trust you.
I trust that you're gonna handle it. And then that's
when the song too came for me working for me,
that the Lord just gave me a stamp of approval.
You may not see me at work, but I'm working
in your behalf, that he's working for me, bless you.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
So it's just I just take.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Comfort in knowing that he is my God and he
is my help. He's my present help in the time
of storm, that even when I don't see and nobody
else is around, he's there and I can go to
him and I ain't got to worry about him.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
My business being in the Street.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
That's why testimony is so important though, right, because I
like to hear other people's stories and what they've been
through and what.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They overcoming of it, overcoming the overcoming. Sure was overcomer,
and that's the thing is. And the Lord has allowed
me to finish the work, even to the extent of
even with my body. I finally found I reached the
goal of like even the weight loss that I was
trying to do so, but to even spiritually become a writer,
(24:32):
like I wrote on this, Like I gave direction on
every song on this album. So it's like things that
I'm proving to myself and showing, Like Lord, you know,
I wrote the plan down and I'm following through with
the plan.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Working for me.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
That was your eleventh number one, right, Yes, you've watched
the record of all time numbers.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Wow, and Kirk, we're tired.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
We're tired for number one.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
But I didn't. I mean, you don't see this stuff coming.
You hope people gon like the music and enjoy it.
But it's like when it happened, I don't even look
at the charge y'all.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
They have.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
They tell me, working for me, you lean into the
country music. Yeah, so I know and I know Kirk
Franklin is known for dibblin dabling different beats and sounds
and stuff like that. Have you thought about, like what
you know it would be like for you to do
other stars, of bringing other stars like the R and
B or like anything secular but making it gospel kind
of how he does a bit.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
But I kind of have some balanced this close to
I would say maybe R and B.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
I've had a little.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
If we did do a love project Us against the
World that I did, Like I have a song that
Kyle feels I sing a song is Carl feel like
it's really a straight R and B song. We didn't
push it, but I think it would have really did well.
But I just still want people to think that I
was trying to do R and B music, that I
still want to stay in my genre because I feel like, again,
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like I said earlier, we all have a part of
part to play.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
And really she was afraid of what people I did.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I was. I was.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I was very fearful and it was like I was
fighting them, but I was dragging my feet. It's like
I feel like if I can hear whatever, I could
sing whatever. You know, like when you say the country music.
It's like I'm country, y'all. Y'all hear in my just
how I talk. But I know about the chickens and
the hogs.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I was raised actually in the country, so it's like
those things to me. It's like I've been stretched and
people just don't. I think once you hear a lot
of times we only listen to people's single that they
have at but we really don't go listen to the
body of And.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Even with the Love Project we did, she was afraid,
like of what people were gonna think. I'm in the studio,
I got my chest hairs and I got much sunshape.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm doing my best R and.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
B what I mean, let the lights damn.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I was yeah, she.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Was like, just I said, that is not how you sing.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
But then I realized she was afraid of what the
church crowd was gonna, you know, think of her.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
But once I thought about it, It's like I'm singing
to the love of my life.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I'm singing to him. I'm not singing for y'all per se.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I mean, thank God for everybody, but I was singing
to him and the song is you make me feel
like I'm on top of the world and.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
When it's the truth, he does.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
So it's like when you hear this song, it's like
it just brings it all to life of like me
talking straight to him or him, you know, feeling like
when he touched me. It's just it's just he still
he's still give me goosebumps.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
So it's like.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
They don't do that because you don't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Don't do that right now, y'all married? Why can't you
married people have that.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
It's true, but it's just a society that we live in.
It's like our people, we can't be judgmental. We could
be the most loving, but we also can be the
most judgmental when it comes to Christian people.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I don't understand that about Christianity. I'm not gonna one
of the first things they teach you.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And I love being on this side, but I don't
know why we are like that.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
But it's it just it does have to be a separation, no, y'all,
it has It's just you know, there, this just has
to be. I wouldn't come and look for you to
do certain things, just like you probably wouldn't expect for
me to do certain things. And it's not judgmental. You
just it's just like what you represented. You just that's
(28:27):
just kind of like like with your parents. Just like
sometimes even some like our kids like to talk about six.
They don't want us to talk about six. So it's like,
but it's just like people were doing. People don't want
to hear certain things from certain people. So it's not
I don't think all of it is. I would say judging.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
It's just you just what would Jesus do?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Could you see him just pull back on one get out?
Burning brush was to bring a message, did you say?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Again?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
His father created burning.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Bush was not for you to him smoking. No, the
bush was being burnt to show as a sacrifice.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
Sacrifice in the bush that I'm talking about.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
No, not they cookn't green.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
God creates everything for a purpose. God created marijuana.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
He did.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
But but it wasn't for us to just to be
like joy healing. It's healing. It's for healing. It's not
for us to just be like I'm gonna get get
one and I'm just in my class because I got people.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
This young man, I ain't gonna mention his name, but
he said, my man, I.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Love your album. And when I'm there, man, I'm going.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Straight to church.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
It's like, but he happened, he said, Man, he said
I had the best church.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I said, I said, come on you, he said, but
he says true though, he said, I just have better
church when I when I don't get high.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
He listened to your album.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
He is going listen to.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
You got to meet people where Jesus.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
I love him to him on the phone.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
I mean I take time. I take time with people
because it's like, once you really get to know me,
I really am a mama mama and I'm I ain't
and ain'ty, so it's like and I'm for everybody, like
you know, I love to cook for everybody. So my
Man's kitchen is another thing that I'm doing. But it's
just I just love people and I just love I
just feel like I should be able to we should
be able to wrap and talk about everything.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I don't think you just got high.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'm gonna push you.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Why do you think all the people thought he was
walking on water. He turned the water into wine, so
that's the alcohol. And then he turned the fish, the
fish and the bread.
Speaker 11 (30:46):
He moved the fly to everybody, that's the monkey.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Man know, man that is the monkey.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
See why you always on him?
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Come on, come on getting this. This is I'm with you,
this is your time.
Speaker 10 (30:59):
What I'm doing, I'm allowing him to jump off the
cliff on his own, and we're gonna watch him.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Jesus know, my heart, he's working on.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
You, and he's working on his still Lord, live, live,
breathing like I.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Can't believe some of the stuff he said.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
He talked so like like you be telling me he
talk too much.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
No, no, no, he says. It's so aggressive and with
so much force that you think is true. Right, he's
been up here for fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
The burning bush was dead.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Jesus was smoking, burning But there's a lot of people
out there listening.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Jesus was smoking, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Like real believer, like you really you know the words.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
That was not God, the most high, he is.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
The most said something. You said something people and listen.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
To him they do and you that's misleading and got.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
That, Mama, God, God if I did anything wrong, my heart.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
God to the album for all of us. Let me leave,
let's leave in the building.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Can we play some.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Records of what you want to hear? Right now? Uh?
Speaker 7 (32:16):
Deserve the win is my my new single.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, deserve you.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Deserve the win.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Matter of fact, let's play both because I don't know
if I might go to hell after what I just said.
Let's play both just in case. Wait he said, what
both working for me.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
And trying to bring God on in here?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And double time?
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Now now you see it, double you were just smoking
with God. Now all right, I told you he's working tonight.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
That man, you gotta say a prayer before we get
up out of here.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Father God, we thank you for this day.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
We thank you for this opportunity to be before your people.
Where should just bless us, Lord God, bring inspiration understanding
to all of us, God in every area that we need,
and touch those that are having problems for us in
their minds. Lord God, to just bring and lift every
weight off of us. On God, we just give you
glory for this opportunity. Thank you for the Breakfast Club,
thank you for what they bring for our people. And
(33:11):
we give you glory for everything that you're doing Jesus name, Amen, Amen, Amen.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
We appreciate you for always a pleasure man.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Pock up the album out right now, live, breathe and fight,
and remember.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
You live and keep breathing, keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
God did not smoke the burner.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
He did not. It was That's not it. It was
for sacrifice. Come on, get out of there.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
It's the breakfast, Breakfast.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
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