December 16, 2025 • 36 mins
Today on The Breakfast Club, Tasha Cobbs Leonard Talks New Album 'TASHA', Finding Her Calling, Her Father's Impact. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every day, Click up the Breakfast Club, finish for.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Y'all, dump mourning, Everybody's dej n V. Just hilarious, Charlamagne
the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a
special guest in the building. Her album's out right now, Tasha.
We have Tasha Cobbs learn Welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What's up? Good morning? You look beautiful?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
How you feeling cold? Yes, it's freezing outside, but it's
all right.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
It's freezing it there.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, y'all, all right, new album Tasha out right now.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
When people name their albums like their name, usually it's
very personal.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So I know that that's what this is. Yes. I
remember Karen Clark sheared a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
She did an album called Finally Karen, And I always
wonder why did she name this album Finally Karen? And
when I got to this album, I completely understood that
she was in a place where she was just settled
with herself, like this is who I am, this is
what I have to offer, And that's what this album
is about.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
For me.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It is a testimony, so many testimonies bottled up in
a bunch of songs from you know, from miscarriages to
grief to celebrations and blended families.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I mean, everything is in there. God, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
How did the gospel community feel when you put when
you put yourself as the.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Focus, it's you know what it's It's more so about
the testimony that God has been faithful through those through
those seasons, and I feel like it has been accepted
much better because a lot of times we can hide
behind like this fog of everything is holy, holy, holy, holy,
you never go through anything. And I think people can
relate more when you tell the truth about your story
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that there are some seasons where I was sitting down
like God, what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (01:49):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
And people can relate to that.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
But at the end of the day, even when we
went into the writing sessions, my main thing was we're
going to always offer hope that we tell our truth.
At the end of the day is still faithful and
He's been good and it has been received so well
by so many people.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We talked about all these things that you've been going through.
You're never scared to put that much personal information out,
especially because people always say church folks are the most judging.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, you never.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You know what not judge, but boyoh my goodness, you
know what I.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Last year I released a book called Do It Anyway,
and that was probably one of the most transparent things
I've ever had to do, is like memoirs. So I
went back into my life and my story, and I
realized that sometimes we can put these songs out and
people think you just singing pretty pretty melodies like your
like your story is disconnected from it. And I and
I saw through that book and the response of it
(02:46):
that people wanted to hear more about the story. And
so I'm willing to be transparent if it's going to
be somebody's healing, you know, if if somebody's healing its
connected to it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I'm willing to be transparent and tell my story.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And I think that's what the gospel is, you know,
just you know, telling, being honest about what you've gone
through and how God has always been faithful in delivering
you from that.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
You know, people always say that, they say your music
is always felt like a bridge between traditional worship and
the emotional realities of every day people. So what you're
saying makes sense. But how is your understanding of calling
evolved as your platform is bro.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Oh my goodness, it is with every presentation or every entity.
So with every album I listen back to, like some
of the older albums like Smile and Grace, and I
hear this innocence that sometimes I honestly miss because being
exposed in industry and being exposed to different platforms, it
introduces you to things that you can't forget.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You know, it's almost like I want to get back
to that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
But then too, you know, I've experienced so much life
and so many testimonies of how God has been so
good in every season. You know, you have this interesting
dichotomy like, hey, you know, the innocence was great, but
then the experience is really good too, because now I
have testimonies that I can share that teach other people.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
The only awards you won Grammy Awards, still awards, Double Wars,
Billboard Music Awards.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Right, what is success to you now? Because you didne
achieved everything as far as award wise, So what is
success to you? What do you? What do you if
you're chasing? What are you chasing now? If anything?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I love the season that I'm in. I'm married now,
I have children, you know, family, that's my thing.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I love to be home. I'm just coming off of
sixty days sabbatical. It was just amazing.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I love being at home with my kids and with
my family, My husband and I we pastor a church,
you know, so building community and family in the local
like a local church has always been my heart.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So I pursue that.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And you know, I believe that God honors my commitment
there and it still gives him this trust, like I
can trust you with greater things because you are still
committed to my local community, the people.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
You know, the mother is in the church. And you know,
I still love that.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I love.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I still love to be able to touch people and
relate to the and have community with them. So if
I'm pursuing anything, it would be that to be the
best me that I could be to the people that
I see every day.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And how do you give those church people hope? Because
right now I feel like this is where people needed
the most.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Groceries are high, builds a high, people are not making money.
They feel like it's a crazy world with everything that's
going on. How do you give those people hope?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Now?
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Man?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I mean, the first answer that comes to mind is
I keep giving them Jesus. But number two, one of
the things that we focus on is what I'm talking
about now community.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
A lot of people in our.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Church, they are business owners, you know, they're entrepreneurs. And
so within that community, if I can encourage everybody, Okay,
we're gonna rally around each other. If you got a
lawn service, we gonna use you if you you know
those I think we have to now in this season,
use strategy, even in the Kingdom, Like you gotta use strategy.
Even though you know we trust God and He's gonna
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be faithful and he's gonna take care of us. But
I still think we have to be wise with how
we manage what God has entrusted us with. And so
that's one of the things that we want to do.
Continue to build community, support one another, support each other's businesses,
and I believe we'll thrive that way.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
An impartation the sharing of what is the sharing of
something valuable yourself?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yes, you find it Like when you read about Acts,
there was this moment where people were like selling their
goods and they would bring all of the good everything
that they earned from the goods. And that's how the
community survived, is that they would come to the church
because people would bring all of their arms and their
goods to the church and the community survived in that way.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Oh you can go. Okay. When you were just talking,
I love y'all. You were just talking about community, saying,
don't guess this turmoil crazy what you were saying about community, right,
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I I always like find it. I don't know what
it is like.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
The youth will not willingly come to the church. Back
back when I was younger, we we were more like,
we did want to go. We The only complaint that
I had was church was too long. But I still
wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I still received the word. You know, my uncle. I
went to my uncle church.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
He's best and he he was able to break it
down in a way where everybody got it right. I'm
just trying to figure out what the disconnect is between
the church and the young people.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I go to church and I don't see young people.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
I ain't go front. I was forced.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We had to go.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Because it was too long and it was born.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
You're going to church, you go sit in that back.
You're gonna shut that up, Baptist church.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
But I do think that I don't think. I don't
like we were made to go. I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think a lot of kids now are having they
get to choose, and I think sometimes as parents we
have to gauge it, like manage our kids and what
they're exposed to. So I do think some of the
responsibility may be on the parent, parental figure in their lives.
But I think church has changed a little bit too,
(08:23):
because you have different options for teenagers. Like at our church,
so our teens they participate in worship and then we
release them to their own things, so they get taught,
They have different games, stuff that they play when they
go out, like we had Sunday School and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Now they actually have children's church.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So a lot of times, what I'm finding even in
our church is now kids are being drawn to just
different styles of worship. Now, let me tell you this,
kids these days don't want fluff. They don't want all
the religious fluff feed. They want a real God, you know,
And a lot of times we have to bring that
to them, like okay, all of that other really just
stuff that we were taught. We got to take give
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them just the meat they want, the meat of who
God is, and I think they'll really pursue it much better.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Like I have two teenage well she's nineteenager more.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
We have a twenty three year old and I have
a nineteen year old, and some of the questions that
they ask us just about God, it's it's totally It's
much more mature than some of the questions I would
have asked at nineteen because they're exposed to so much more.
And I feel like we have to take the fluff
off and just give them like the meat of who
God is, and that's what they really want.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And I think being having it rooted in real life experiences,
like like how your outu is. Like when I listen
to Pastor Torrey or Sara Jax Roberts or bish you
TDJAS when they're preaching, it's rooted in something real ask
me going on that we're dealing with, and here are
the scriptures that can.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Help you get yep, something they can relate to.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
And I also think too, like when you get the
kids back into church and you take away all the
fluff you give them kind of like a foundation to
like go through every day life with yeah you got
this on church with John Legend and talk about teach
me how to church on the Monday.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, break that day for us. So I feel like
there are people when I went into this album. One
of the things that I wanted to do. I remember
Kirk Franklin, Mary Mary. Back in the day, they used
to have these songs where I was like, I don't
want the person who just got saved Sunday to miss out.
I want to give them something they can relate to.
And the truth is they may come to church and
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they may not understand everything, like they may not understand
the church lingo and what we're doing, but they can
understand lyrics that says, Okay, God, I love what I
felt Sunday, But teach me how to get that in
my house today. Teach me how to feel you, teach
me how to pray, Teach me how to love on
you and build a personal relationship with you today.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
So that's where that song came from. Because the preacher
ain't gonna be in your house.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You ain't gonna have a keyboard player there, Like how
do I build relationship with God on my day to day?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And that's what that song is about.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
And yet day to day because on your first song
on the album, I needed God you or I need
God You talk about dealing with like social media comments
and like the end of day and I've never thought
about gospel people dealing with because it was so like,
I know, I pushed back, but he's never talked about
comments and being in the comments.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I was when I heard that.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
I'm like, I wonder what she deals with on a
day to day just like, all right, I see y'all
leave me alone, Like how what is your experience like
with that?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Everybody has an opinion about everything, and sometimes can they
say in the comments though they oh no, did they
talk about your clothes, They talk about your head, they
talk about you.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Know, just everything. It's the same.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
And I guess it's the platforms that have been given
through social media.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You have to manage it.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
You have to you know, it could be good, it
could be bad, depending on how people use it. And
sometimes we're human, you know, you get in the comments
and you're like, wait a minute, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Because it's it's like you you're you're focusing on okay.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
So one of the last things that happened with me,
I wore a red outfit to the Stellar Awards.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It was amazing. I mean that people was like, oh,
she sold her soul to the devil, you know, the
color red. I'm like, what in the world.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I could not believe it, and so I literally had
to just take a moment away from social media because
I'm like, y'all miss the whole moment. It was like,
this is on television, millions of people are going to
be watching. I had an opportunity just to spread the
word of Jesus, and y'all talking.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
About my clothes, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
It's it's so, You're right, I have to just kind
of pull away sometimes and refocus on what my calling
is and who I'm called to.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, speaking of call, and when did you first realize
that the ministry God gave you wasn't just about singing
but about impart.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
That's a good question.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
I love this.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
So my dad was a pastor, so they calling me
a p K all right, And he started passoring when
I was ten years old. And I came from a
family of singers, so everybody singing, all of my aunts,
all my cousins, everybody, And I wasn't like the.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Singer in the family.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
My dad actually was cultivating me to be a speaker,
like a communicator. So my first sermon I appreciated when
I was ten years old and I wasn't really singing
on a stage like that. But I grew up in
a small town called jessep, Georgia, and we were bored.
So we started like this teenage choir. Everybody it was
like fifty of us. We had band singers, all that
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kind of stuff, and we were singing Kirk Franklin song
Now Behold the Lamb by Tamla Man and the lead
singer could not make it. He got a minor fender
bender could make it to the concert. So everybody was like, Tasha, Tasha,
you got to sing out. I was like, guys, I
don't sing in front of people.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
What's wrong with y'all?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
So, needless to say, I ended up singing the song
that night, and just like people do now, when I
open my.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Eyes, people were crying, they were in the floor in worship.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'm looking at my dad like, okay, this sing what
we've been doing, this is different. They're looking back at me,
and I think we realized at that moment that the
singing and the songs would be an avenue that would
be used for me to also get the gospel to people.
So it wasn't like a dream either. I just loved,
Like I just said, I loved singing in church. I
loved building a choir.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
That was my thing.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
So it was never a dream to be on like
major platforms. I just loved being in church, Like I
got disciplined by not being able to go to church,
like what you talk about. I was one of the
kids who was on the front roll.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I'm now early. I loved church.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
So for for this plat for me to have the
platforms that I have now, it's just something new. It's
it's not something that I dreamed about I thought about.
I just loved to sing. I love to worship and
I love God's work.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
You talk about your your dad, and I know you
have your song do it anyway on the project, And
I can't imagine how emotional that was for you recording
that song because I know it's based off feel like
a lot of life lessons you give you in.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Your book yep, yep.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
So talk about, you know, deciding to put that on
this album and get the process of like writing it
and recording it. What that was like for you emotionally.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah. When I when I wrote the book, I wrote
it off of my dad's the the last thing that
he taught me, the last lesson that he left with me.
We were on the way to the Stellars. I just
released the song Break Every Chain, and I was nominated.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
For several awards.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And my dad was an old school pastor, so for
him to leave on a Sunday it meant the world
to me. So my dad and my mom came to
Nashville and he was They had like this catwalk that year,
and my song was positioned in the middle of the
room and he was literally probably three seats away from me,
and I could see him just beaming from ear to ear.
But leading up to going to the Stellars, the Grammys
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were seven days later, and he kept saying, Dadd's gonna
be with you in Nashville. I'm not going to LA,
but I want you to go anyway, like we're thinking, Okay,
nobody ever thought she was going to lav you know,
And I thought that's why he was saying that. So
he showed up in Nashville and on the way. I
won three awards that night, and the last picture I
have of him is him holding my awards up getting
on the elevator. He was getting on the elevator said Dad,
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oh wait a minute, let me stop you and take
a picture of let me see the backstory is my
daddy paid for my independent project with his full savings.
He's spent his whole savis and so for years he
kept saying when does the executive produce.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
To get his money back? But that was his arm,
that was his one joke.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
So I promised him that if I ever won awards,
I would give them to him. So that night he
took those three Stellar awards home and he was so
so so proud. The next morning, he had a heart
attack in the car and he and he died with
my mom in the car, but he saved her life.
Like even in that it was just the story is
just absolutely amazing, Like.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, so my mom my dad they dated since she
was thirteen years old. They were the only two they
ever been with. And in the car, so you know,
my father had the heart attack immediately, they're basically saying
that he passed away, but even in death, he lifted
his foot up off of the gas and you know,
gravity is gonna make you press the gas. He was driving,
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he lifted his foot up off the gas while he
was having a heart attack, and the car just kind
of floated into a ditch, so that my mom wasn't
harmed at all, and she was able to get out
and just run across the street and say, hey, I
think my husband's having a heart attack.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I think he's having a heart attack.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
And in that moment, my dad used to always say,
if I ever get a glimpse of God's glory, I'm
not coming back. So that's how I think he's like,
he ain't coming He's not coming back. But I remember
him saying, baby, Daddy's not gonna be with you in LA,
but I want you to go anyway. And I and
in that I believe that he was teaching me that
life is gonna get hard, your heart is going to
be broken, You're not gonna understand the seasons that you're in.
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But Daddy wants you to dig deep and do it
anyway whatever you feel like God has called you to do.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And so that was the last lesson that he left
with me. My father was fifty four. Yeah, but he
was a great man. He got paid. I'm he said,
what is executive produce? To get his money back? Didn't
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you know what? I didn't have it to pay him.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I was trying.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm taking it. Yeah, I always tried, y'all.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
They You've always been transparent about like therapy and and
doing in the work. What do you feel the faith
community still misunderstands about mental health?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
You know, I think there's a greater focus on it
than there has been in the past. And I feel
like many people who are who have platforms are talking
about it more like you were just mentioning Sarah. Sarah
is very adamant about pushing like with her Woman Evolve.
They talk about it all the time. We always have
therapists there. She's a good good friend of mine, And
I feel like more people are being open about it.
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It wasn't just it was something that was just kind
of taboo, you know, because we.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Got the Holy goals. You know, God's gonna help with everything.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
And I think now we can just kind of teach
it a little different that God uses people to help us.
You know, most of the time, what you will find
when God is going to do something in the earth,
he's going to use a man to do a person
to do it. And so I feel like there's a
greater emphasis on it. We could do better. You know,
you have therapists like Kobe Campbell, She's absolutely amazing. If
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you've never heard her of, y'all gotta go just kind.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Of read some of the stuff that she does. You know,
she's absolutely amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So you have a lot of God centered Kingdom therapists
who are being exposed now, and I think, Jack, yes,
oh my goodness, yeah. And so you have a lot
more of that that can be trusted. And they're relevant,
like we were saying, you know, it's it's like they
know the language, but they also have the education to
help you manage like your mental health. And I think
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it's great. I think it's a lot more exposure. We
can do better, but I think we're getting good at it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
When did you know you needed it? Like you know,
you know, if you're faith for us and you believe
God is enough, you know I needed I need therapy too.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I remember, man.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
It was about twenty ten, and I was actually a
worship leader at my church, and I would go to
church and I would like sing these songs just like
I was just talking about, and watch people be healed,
watch them have moments in the presence of God. And
I would go home for like three and four days
in the dark under the covers, crying. Didn't understand why
just you know, just heavy. And I remember one night
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it just got so heavy. My cousin was my roommate,
and she was like, Tasha, I gotta go like it is.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You could feel it in my house, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
And I remember probably after she left, maybe two nights later,
I just woke up in the middle of light like
I gotta do something about this, Like I can't. I
can't continue to offer hope and inspire people. And I'm
in this dark place every day. There has to be more,
you know, for me going to therapy. Mine was self rejection.
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I dealt with rejection very bad. I was you know,
we celebrate O. Taasha got in trouble because she didn't
want to go to church. This is but along with
that was the persona of perfection. Like I adopted this perfection.
I remember being ten years old and one of the
deacons from my church would come to me and say, hey,
my son is in your class. Make sure he doing
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his homework. Can you imagine a weight of responsibility a
ten year old has to take on. So I adopted
this thing like I can't have any flaws, I can't
have any issues. I gotta be perfect, And so I
hit my flaws for years, and that went into adulthood
and it just turned into this darkness like I can't
accept who I am because I don't think people will
accept it. I don't think they'll love me, you know,
I don't think they want me. And so mine was
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really birth from self rejection.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Do you have a question your faith?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Like all the things that you've been talking about that
you went through and I see all the things that
you wrote on the.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Album Cover the World, which I love you take that
down fire?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Did you have a question in your faith? I did,
you know what?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
And it wasn't during those times that I was just
talking about. It was actually more recent.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
My husband and I went through a miscarriage and in
that time, you know, I was like, man, God, I
spend my life worshiping you. I spend my life inspiring
and teaching the Gospel of Jesus. And the one thing
that I really wanted was the one thing that I
did not get. And I remember walking through that season
and I questioned, you know, my faith was shattered. I
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remember calling my mentor, William Murphy and I said, met,
my faith is shattered right now, and he was like, good,
that's a perfect place for God to put you back together.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
And I was like, of course, you don't want to
hear that right now. I'm like, okay, we don't want
this lesson right now.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
But it was the truth that during that season, I
realized just how weak my faith was, that hey, it's
the one thing that you wanted, but God wants to
do it differently. I have a friend who her name
is Jackie Green, and she says this. She was like,
we all we often want God's will, you know, we
want the promises, we want the prophecies, and we want
the blessings, but we don't stick around to hear his way.
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And God's way for us was adoption. You know, we
have a beautiful baby boy. His name is Asher. He's
four years old, and he looks like us, acts like us.
He's a perfect fit to our family. And it was
God's way, not our way. And when I you know,
when I relinquished that like thinking it has to be
done this way and I allow God to do it
his way.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You know, my faith was is so much stronger.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
You know, it's so much stronger in your faith being
stronger and something like what you just talked about with
your fertility journey, when you when you're opening up and
kind of being honest about that, because I know you
also talked about this in your book as well too.
What do you tell others who they're not at that
silver line yet? Like, because I'm sure it took you
some time, Yeah, you to this point. Yeah, how do
you because you say you want to bring hope all
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the time, how do you coach someone through a challenge
of faith like what you went through?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Wow? You take it day by day, you know, and
you feel what you feel every day. There were some
days where I, you know, people would try to call
and I'm like, I don't want to hear it. I
don't want to hear a scripture. I don't want to
hear prayer, you know, because y'all are the same people
that's telling me you won't have a kid.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You don't have a kid, you know. And I feel like,
you know, God is God.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
He is not moved off of his throne by our humanity,
you know, And I think we've made it seem like
we can say things, are do things that offend him
and make him less God. That's you know, he wants
our truth. The Bible talks about worshiping in spirit and
in true truth. And the truth is is that in
that moment, you don't feel like it. You know, you don't,
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you don't feel the strength of your faith, and you
don't feel encouraged. And God wants that truth too, just
as much as he wants us when we're on a mountain,
he wants us when we're in the valley too.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
When you think about your father, God blessed that you
think about like miscarriages, How is grief shifted the way
you minister the people?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Oh my gosh, I love this question because a lot
of times we minister from a place like we just
want to you know, I just want to my songs
to be rooted in scripture, rooted in scripture. But sometimes
we also have to have cultural intelligence about the people
that we're ministering too, Like there are people who are
dealing with grief for real, and they don't want the
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fluff like we were just talking about. They want the honesty.
And so for me, it kind of shifted my approach
and ministry that I'm thinking there are people though there
may be thousands of people out here in this arena
or wherever I am, but they are dealing with real grief,
real heartbreak, and they don't want a false hop, you know,
they don't want the fake this is just a pretty song.
They want somebody who's gonna reach their heart, you know,
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And what comes from my heart, I believe will reach
their heart. And so yeah, those experiences really changed the
way that I minister. I remember after my dad died,
about two weeks later, I had a concert because I
canceled everything for about two weeks, and I was in
la standing on the stage and I remember just being
heartbroken and people are still worshiping, you know, they're still
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with their hands lifted, but I'm on the stage destroyed,
like my heart is broken. And a song from my
childhood came back to me. And the song, you know,
it says, I'll.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Say yes, Laury, yes to your willing, to your way.
I'll say yes, Lauries, I will trust you and obey.
And then it says, when your spirit speaks to me, and.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I changed the lyric right there on the stage with
my broken heart, I'll still agree and.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
My answer will be yes, Lord, Yes.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
And in that moment, I realized that my gift wasn't
just for the cloud, that it was also for me,
Like in those broken moments. God gave me a gift
that would help usher me through different seasons too. You
got on the album God in the Valley, the Hend
that keeps On Holding Me. Those songs are very much
like the song you just sang, yeah, And I really
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feel like so many people are relating to those songs
because it speaks directly to their season, especially right now
in the world that we're in. People don't you know,
like you were saying, people don't know sometimes where their
next meal is gonna come from. You know, there are
mothers and fathers who are really challenged about how they're
going to take care of their families. And I feel like,
you know, we have to offer some hope with the
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gifts that we have. And my gift is music. My
gift is teaching. And if I can offer one person hope,
you know, through my gifts, that's my desire.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And this is a live album. So this is my
first studio album.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Okay, yeah, this is the first time I did a
studio All of the rest of them they were live, alright,
So how do you for a live album's?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, because that's no like, you don't go back, you
don't you stopping right, you know?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
And I love the live albums because I'm a worship leader,
so you know, it gives me a moment with the crowd.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
We're we're vibing off of each other.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
The studio was actually harder for me. This was that
was a new space with no crowd. You know, I
enjoyed it eventually. My my husband is my producer, so
he's like kind of coaching me through it. But I
I I realized that we had an opportunity to bring
other elements in with the studio this time.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Like when you're doing live, you get what you get.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
You know, you got the background singers, the band is there,
you got the crowd, and you capture it that night.
But this we had an opportunity to just walk it
out day by day, like we sat in writing sessions.
I had a chance to kind of share my heart
with all of the writers. And then one of the
things that I loved the song with John Legend on church.
People don't know this. Both of our family sing and
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so we suppress them. They came to our church for
like a church anniversary and we set up one of
the rooms as a studio.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
So you hear our uncles and aunts, our parents are
all on there.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Our cousins, so the background singers, so we had a
chance to bring in other elements that meant something to
us on this project and I love that, so.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Listen. No, they don't get paid round.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
This might be a stupid question, but how do you
feel the spirit in the studio. I feel like when
you're live, you probably feel that spirit, you know what
I mean. But in the studio it's little manufactured.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
That was one of the it's not manufacturing.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
That was one of the challenges that just kind of
with me transitioning from the live crowd, feeding off of
the people to now.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
And the truth is is that I just envisioned the
people that I would be ministering to.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Like I was just talking about the mother who may
have dropped her kid off and she's having a moment
and she's listening to church on a Monday. You know,
I'm seeing her in my spirit, like I really want
this song to minister to her. So it was still
a crowd, it was just different. It was a different
approach on how you know I addressed that crowd.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I enjoyed that. I know you can't wait to sing
it live. Yeah, the reaction.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
On your last album why don't know this was your
last album before this one, Heart Passion.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Pursuit, we did.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I did another one called Him that was like a
gospel record, but the Heart Passion Pursuit, Yes, that was
a strong record. So on on that project, I know
that you had gotten some pushback for putting Nicki Minaj
on the album, right, and you've never like talked about
like why you chose to put Nicky on the album,
but you've always stood by she was meant to be
on that album. On this project, you open it with
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La Craze and I instantly understand why he's.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
On that song.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, can you talk a bit about why.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
You chose Nicki Mina should be on that album and
putting Le Cray on this album? Like how do you
go about finding your features?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And like wh did that lead?
Speaker 7 (29:53):
You? Spiritually stand by those moments because you still buy
the Nicki Minaj moment piercely.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Lots of lots of prayer with a Niki moment with
the song I'm Getting Ready.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I took a different approach.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
It was twenty seventeen, so this was before the pandemic,
when people were just putting everything out and I really
felt like during the rehearsals preparing for that record. We
were in the studio for like seven days, and so
we would sing the song, sing the songs, and I
would just put like little clips out, like Okay, this
is one of the songs we about to record.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
And Nicki saw one of the.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Clips off I'm getting ready and she sent me a
comment and was like, hey, Tasha, when you finished this song,
send it to me. I'm gonna put sixteen bars on it.
And she didn't DM me. She put that out there
in front of the entire world, so everybody come see it. Yeah,
it was a comment, and so I was like, Okay,
first of all, she's serious, this is crazy. And number two,
I started just to just listen to that song, like
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you said, even with the Lule cray Win, and I
was like, you know, this song, it's a church vibe,
but I really feel like this will work, especially with
what the content of the song was.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And so I did it.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
You know, after praying about it, I was like, you
know what, I feel like platform that she has this
is gonna expose some people who may not come to
our churches, may not ever get a gospel record. But
now if a Nicki Minaj follower will listen to a
song that said I'm getting ready to see something I've
never seen, the blessings of the Lord.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Like that was just different.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
I was like, man, okay, this is an opportunity to
spread the gospel, and so we did it.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I sent her a song.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I mean, she said it right back. I was like,
this is amazing, and so that's really it's really how
that happened. And we One of the things that people
don't know is that we also had relationship. So like
NICKI would text me, you know, I would text her,
check on her, that kind of stuff. And so said, again,
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oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, not as often now, but you know,
I just love Nikki.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I love her.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
I love her, and you know, just like anybody else
that we love family members. There are some things that
we don't agree with, you know, but at the end
of the day, I love her. I want the best
for her, you know. And that's what that was about.
Even the last songs. I did a song on her
record called Blessings and it came about the kind of
the same way she texted me, was like, Josha, listen
to this song. I think you will be hearing on
this song. And most of it is birth from that relationship.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I really like those.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
I like I like those type of crossover collaborations like
you know you and Nikki and then Kirk Franklin did
it a Little Baby, because you know what it does, yeah,
big record, you know, and it's a crossover and it's
also a spreading of the word.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Is leading people, leading.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
People back to him, you know, because he wants that.
He wants that leadership.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
And if two other genres can do it, you know,
hip hop meets you know pop or rap meets pop,
why can't you know, always people it's always people who
has negative things to say.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
About it, like that's always gonna come. Yeah, But that's
leading people, that's spreading the word.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Nikki talks about believing in God when she raps sometimes
it sounds like she's speaking in tongue.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
But what I saw said, you know.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Her off the stage, her relationship with God. I was
just like, what is it that the churchy people are
blocking us from understanding walk because that's where that's where
a lot of the backlash was coming from from you.
I felt like she shouldn't have been doing the music
with Nicki min I and I'm like, man, I wonder
how many other times we're blocked from things spiritually because
people don't accept it and like what we missed and
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that you.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Know what from that collaboration. I've had people, you know
a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
A lot of people came back and they were apologizing
maybe years later, like two years later. You know, I
didn't understand why you did the collaboration, But now I
understand and I apologize, Like I respect people who can
do stuff like that, and I'm never gonna, you know,
go back at them back and forth. I'm like, hey,
you know, I understand sometimes it's hard to accept, accept change,
or accept something different or receive something new.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
So I get it.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
But I've had people who was like, hey, that was
my first time ever buying a gospel record. You know,
that was my first I didn't believe in God until
I heard that song.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I hurt people.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
People have said that to me, and so to hear
those testimonies, that's what it's about, you know what I'm saying.
So I'm here to spread the gospel, and if he
has to use a platform like a Nicki Minaj in
order to do it, then I say yes.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
And like you said, God will use people yeah, like
yep ye. Are you more of a artist or worship
leader nowadays?
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Ooh ah, that's a good question. I'm a good mixture
of both. I'm forever a worship leader. One of the
things that I did not know until entering into the
industry is that being an artist is something totally different
like you, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
It's a job, you know, you have to have.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
You have to have information and knowledge and wisdom on
how to manage you as an artist, and everybody doesn't
have that. Like you can be a great singer and
not an artist. You can be I mean a great
rapper and not an artist. I think the artistry is
the part that makes you stand out.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
You know, knowing how to.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Do an interview, you you know, knowing how to to
speak well, how to carry yourself, how to manage your business,
your business affairs, and those are things that I learned
along the way.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
But all of that comes with artistry. So I would
say that I am I am both, Yes you are.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
We appreciate you. Let's get into sir, Okay, get a
record what you want to hear, let's play church, church all.
Let's get into it now. I appreciate you for joining us.
We got to close out with the preid.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Okay, am I plenty?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Thank you all right, I'm de Lord. Thank you, Thank
you for being good, thank you for being faithful in
every season. I thank you even for this platform, for
all four of these amazing people who spread inspiration, who
used their gifts and their talents just to help other
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people and to and to just be God in the earth. God,
I thank you for the opportunity to talk about you
to millions and millions of people, to anyone who may
be listening, to anyone who may have heard, who may
be in a space of grief, you know, a space
of depression. God, I ask now that you would show
yourself to them in a special way today. In Jesus' name,
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you be glorified.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Amen, Amen, a man.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Yes, Breakfast club, good morning, Thank.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You, Thank y'all.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Every day, breakfast
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Glove, y'all done.
Every day, Click up the Breakfast Club, finish for.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Y'all, dump mourning, Everybody's dej n V. Just hilarious, Charlamagne
the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a
special guest in the building. Her album's out right now, Tasha.
We have Tasha Cobbs learn Welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What's up? Good morning? You look beautiful?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
How you feeling cold? Yes, it's freezing outside, but it's
all right.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
It's freezing it there.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, y'all, all right, new album Tasha out right now.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
When people name their albums like their name, usually it's
very personal.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So I know that that's what this is. Yes. I
remember Karen Clark sheared a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
She did an album called Finally Karen, And I always
wonder why did she name this album Finally Karen? And
when I got to this album, I completely understood that
she was in a place where she was just settled
with herself, like this is who I am, this is
what I have to offer, And that's what this album
is about.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
For me.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It is a testimony, so many testimonies bottled up in
a bunch of songs from you know, from miscarriages to
grief to celebrations and blended families.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I mean, everything is in there. God, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
How did the gospel community feel when you put when
you put yourself as the.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Focus, it's you know what it's It's more so about
the testimony that God has been faithful through those through
those seasons, and I feel like it has been accepted
much better because a lot of times we can hide
behind like this fog of everything is holy, holy, holy, holy,
you never go through anything. And I think people can
relate more when you tell the truth about your story
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that there are some seasons where I was sitting down
like God, what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (01:49):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
And people can relate to that.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
But at the end of the day, even when we
went into the writing sessions, my main thing was we're
going to always offer hope that we tell our truth.
At the end of the day is still faithful and
He's been good and it has been received so well
by so many people.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We talked about all these things that you've been going through.
You're never scared to put that much personal information out,
especially because people always say church folks are the most judging.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, you never.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You know what not judge, but boyoh my goodness, you
know what I.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Last year I released a book called Do It Anyway,
and that was probably one of the most transparent things
I've ever had to do, is like memoirs. So I
went back into my life and my story, and I
realized that sometimes we can put these songs out and
people think you just singing pretty pretty melodies like your
like your story is disconnected from it. And I and
I saw through that book and the response of it
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that people wanted to hear more about the story. And
so I'm willing to be transparent if it's going to
be somebody's healing, you know, if if somebody's healing its
connected to it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I'm willing to be transparent and tell my story.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And I think that's what the gospel is, you know,
just you know, telling, being honest about what you've gone
through and how God has always been faithful in delivering
you from that.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
You know, people always say that, they say your music
is always felt like a bridge between traditional worship and
the emotional realities of every day people. So what you're
saying makes sense. But how is your understanding of calling
evolved as your platform is bro.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Oh my goodness, it is with every presentation or every entity.
So with every album I listen back to, like some
of the older albums like Smile and Grace, and I
hear this innocence that sometimes I honestly miss because being
exposed in industry and being exposed to different platforms, it
introduces you to things that you can't forget.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You know, it's almost like I want to get back
to that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
But then too, you know, I've experienced so much life
and so many testimonies of how God has been so
good in every season. You know, you have this interesting
dichotomy like, hey, you know, the innocence was great, but
then the experience is really good too, because now I
have testimonies that I can share that teach other people.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
The only awards you won Grammy Awards, still awards, Double Wars,
Billboard Music Awards.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Right, what is success to you now? Because you didne
achieved everything as far as award wise, So what is
success to you? What do you? What do you if
you're chasing? What are you chasing now? If anything?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I love the season that I'm in. I'm married now,
I have children, you know, family, that's my thing.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I love to be home. I'm just coming off of
sixty days sabbatical. It was just amazing.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I love being at home with my kids and with
my family, My husband and I we pastor a church,
you know, so building community and family in the local
like a local church has always been my heart.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So I pursue that.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And you know, I believe that God honors my commitment
there and it still gives him this trust, like I
can trust you with greater things because you are still
committed to my local community, the people.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
You know, the mother is in the church. And you know,
I still love that.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I love.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I still love to be able to touch people and
relate to the and have community with them. So if
I'm pursuing anything, it would be that to be the
best me that I could be to the people that
I see every day.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And how do you give those church people hope? Because
right now I feel like this is where people needed
the most.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Groceries are high, builds a high, people are not making money.
They feel like it's a crazy world with everything that's
going on. How do you give those people hope?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Now?
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Man?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I mean, the first answer that comes to mind is
I keep giving them Jesus. But number two, one of
the things that we focus on is what I'm talking
about now community.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
A lot of people in our.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Church, they are business owners, you know, they're entrepreneurs. And
so within that community, if I can encourage everybody, Okay,
we're gonna rally around each other. If you got a
lawn service, we gonna use you if you you know
those I think we have to now in this season,
use strategy, even in the Kingdom, Like you gotta use strategy.
Even though you know we trust God and He's gonna
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be faithful and he's gonna take care of us. But
I still think we have to be wise with how
we manage what God has entrusted us with. And so
that's one of the things that we want to do.
Continue to build community, support one another, support each other's businesses,
and I believe we'll thrive that way.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
An impartation the sharing of what is the sharing of
something valuable yourself?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yes, you find it Like when you read about Acts,
there was this moment where people were like selling their
goods and they would bring all of the good everything
that they earned from the goods. And that's how the
community survived, is that they would come to the church
because people would bring all of their arms and their
goods to the church and the community survived in that way.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Oh you can go. Okay. When you were just talking,
I love y'all. You were just talking about community, saying,
don't guess this turmoil crazy what you were saying about community, right,
(07:00):
I I always like find it. I don't know what
it is like.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
The youth will not willingly come to the church. Back
back when I was younger, we we were more like,
we did want to go. We The only complaint that
I had was church was too long. But I still
wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I still received the word. You know, my uncle. I
went to my uncle church.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
He's best and he he was able to break it
down in a way where everybody got it right. I'm
just trying to figure out what the disconnect is between
the church and the young people.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I go to church and I don't see young people.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
I ain't go front. I was forced.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We had to go.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Because it was too long and it was born.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
You're going to church, you go sit in that back.
You're gonna shut that up, Baptist church.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
But I do think that I don't think. I don't
like we were made to go. I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think a lot of kids now are having they
get to choose, and I think sometimes as parents we
have to gauge it, like manage our kids and what
they're exposed to. So I do think some of the
responsibility may be on the parent, parental figure in their lives.
But I think church has changed a little bit too,
(08:23):
because you have different options for teenagers. Like at our church,
so our teens they participate in worship and then we
release them to their own things, so they get taught,
They have different games, stuff that they play when they
go out, like we had Sunday School and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Now they actually have children's church.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So a lot of times, what I'm finding even in
our church is now kids are being drawn to just
different styles of worship. Now, let me tell you this,
kids these days don't want fluff. They don't want all
the religious fluff feed. They want a real God, you know,
And a lot of times we have to bring that
to them, like okay, all of that other really just
stuff that we were taught. We got to take give
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them just the meat they want, the meat of who
God is, and I think they'll really pursue it much better.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Like I have two teenage well she's nineteenager more.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
We have a twenty three year old and I have
a nineteen year old, and some of the questions that
they ask us just about God, it's it's totally It's
much more mature than some of the questions I would
have asked at nineteen because they're exposed to so much more.
And I feel like we have to take the fluff
off and just give them like the meat of who
God is, and that's what they really want.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And I think being having it rooted in real life experiences,
like like how your outu is. Like when I listen
to Pastor Torrey or Sara Jax Roberts or bish you
TDJAS when they're preaching, it's rooted in something real ask
me going on that we're dealing with, and here are
the scriptures that can.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Help you get yep, something they can relate to.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
And I also think too, like when you get the
kids back into church and you take away all the
fluff you give them kind of like a foundation to
like go through every day life with yeah you got
this on church with John Legend and talk about teach
me how to church on the Monday.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, break that day for us. So I feel like
there are people when I went into this album. One
of the things that I wanted to do. I remember
Kirk Franklin, Mary Mary. Back in the day, they used
to have these songs where I was like, I don't
want the person who just got saved Sunday to miss out.
I want to give them something they can relate to.
And the truth is they may come to church and
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they may not understand everything, like they may not understand
the church lingo and what we're doing, but they can
understand lyrics that says, Okay, God, I love what I
felt Sunday, But teach me how to get that in
my house today. Teach me how to feel you, teach
me how to pray, Teach me how to love on
you and build a personal relationship with you today.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
So that's where that song came from. Because the preacher
ain't gonna be in your house.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You ain't gonna have a keyboard player there, Like how
do I build relationship with God on my day to day?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And that's what that song is about.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
And yet day to day because on your first song
on the album, I needed God you or I need
God You talk about dealing with like social media comments
and like the end of day and I've never thought
about gospel people dealing with because it was so like,
I know, I pushed back, but he's never talked about
comments and being in the comments.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I was when I heard that.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
I'm like, I wonder what she deals with on a
day to day just like, all right, I see y'all
leave me alone, Like how what is your experience like
with that?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Everybody has an opinion about everything, and sometimes can they
say in the comments though they oh no, did they
talk about your clothes, They talk about your head, they
talk about you.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Know, just everything. It's the same.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
And I guess it's the platforms that have been given
through social media.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You have to manage it.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
You have to you know, it could be good, it
could be bad, depending on how people use it. And
sometimes we're human, you know, you get in the comments
and you're like, wait a minute, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Because it's it's like you you're you're focusing on okay.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
So one of the last things that happened with me,
I wore a red outfit to the Stellar Awards.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It was amazing. I mean that people was like, oh,
she sold her soul to the devil, you know, the
color red. I'm like, what in the world.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I could not believe it, and so I literally had
to just take a moment away from social media because
I'm like, y'all miss the whole moment. It was like,
this is on television, millions of people are going to
be watching. I had an opportunity just to spread the
word of Jesus, and y'all talking.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
About my clothes, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
It's it's so, You're right, I have to just kind
of pull away sometimes and refocus on what my calling
is and who I'm called to.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, speaking of call, and when did you first realize
that the ministry God gave you wasn't just about singing
but about impart.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
That's a good question.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
I love this.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
So my dad was a pastor, so they calling me
a p K all right, And he started passoring when
I was ten years old. And I came from a
family of singers, so everybody singing, all of my aunts,
all my cousins, everybody, And I wasn't like the.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Singer in the family.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
My dad actually was cultivating me to be a speaker,
like a communicator. So my first sermon I appreciated when
I was ten years old and I wasn't really singing
on a stage like that. But I grew up in
a small town called jessep, Georgia, and we were bored.
So we started like this teenage choir. Everybody it was
like fifty of us. We had band singers, all that
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kind of stuff, and we were singing Kirk Franklin song
Now Behold the Lamb by Tamla Man and the lead
singer could not make it. He got a minor fender
bender could make it to the concert. So everybody was like, Tasha, Tasha,
you got to sing out. I was like, guys, I
don't sing in front of people.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
What's wrong with y'all?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
So, needless to say, I ended up singing the song
that night, and just like people do now, when I
open my.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Eyes, people were crying, they were in the floor in worship.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'm looking at my dad like, okay, this sing what
we've been doing, this is different. They're looking back at me,
and I think we realized at that moment that the
singing and the songs would be an avenue that would
be used for me to also get the gospel to people.
So it wasn't like a dream either. I just loved,
Like I just said, I loved singing in church. I
loved building a choir.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
That was my thing.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
So it was never a dream to be on like
major platforms. I just loved being in church, Like I
got disciplined by not being able to go to church,
like what you talk about. I was one of the
kids who was on the front roll.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I'm now early. I loved church.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
So for for this plat for me to have the
platforms that I have now, it's just something new. It's
it's not something that I dreamed about I thought about.
I just loved to sing. I love to worship and
I love God's work.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
You talk about your your dad, and I know you
have your song do it anyway on the project, And
I can't imagine how emotional that was for you recording
that song because I know it's based off feel like
a lot of life lessons you give you in.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Your book yep, yep.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
So talk about, you know, deciding to put that on
this album and get the process of like writing it
and recording it. What that was like for you emotionally.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah. When I when I wrote the book, I wrote
it off of my dad's the the last thing that
he taught me, the last lesson that he left with me.
We were on the way to the Stellars. I just
released the song Break Every Chain, and I was nominated.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
For several awards.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And my dad was an old school pastor, so for
him to leave on a Sunday it meant the world
to me. So my dad and my mom came to
Nashville and he was They had like this catwalk that year,
and my song was positioned in the middle of the
room and he was literally probably three seats away from me,
and I could see him just beaming from ear to ear.
But leading up to going to the Stellars, the Grammys
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were seven days later, and he kept saying, Dadd's gonna
be with you in Nashville. I'm not going to LA,
but I want you to go anyway, like we're thinking, Okay,
nobody ever thought she was going to lav you know,
And I thought that's why he was saying that. So
he showed up in Nashville and on the way. I
won three awards that night, and the last picture I
have of him is him holding my awards up getting
on the elevator. He was getting on the elevator said Dad,
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oh wait a minute, let me stop you and take
a picture of let me see the backstory is my
daddy paid for my independent project with his full savings.
He's spent his whole savis and so for years he
kept saying when does the executive produce.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
To get his money back? But that was his arm,
that was his one joke.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
So I promised him that if I ever won awards,
I would give them to him. So that night he
took those three Stellar awards home and he was so
so so proud. The next morning, he had a heart
attack in the car and he and he died with
my mom in the car, but he saved her life.
Like even in that it was just the story is
just absolutely amazing, Like.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, so my mom my dad they dated since she
was thirteen years old. They were the only two they
ever been with. And in the car, so you know,
my father had the heart attack immediately, they're basically saying
that he passed away, but even in death, he lifted
his foot up off of the gas and you know,
gravity is gonna make you press the gas. He was driving,
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he lifted his foot up off the gas while he
was having a heart attack, and the car just kind
of floated into a ditch, so that my mom wasn't
harmed at all, and she was able to get out
and just run across the street and say, hey, I
think my husband's having a heart attack.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I think he's having a heart attack.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
And in that moment, my dad used to always say,
if I ever get a glimpse of God's glory, I'm
not coming back. So that's how I think he's like,
he ain't coming He's not coming back. But I remember
him saying, baby, Daddy's not gonna be with you in LA,
but I want you to go anyway. And I and
in that I believe that he was teaching me that
life is gonna get hard, your heart is going to
be broken, You're not gonna understand the seasons that you're in.
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But Daddy wants you to dig deep and do it
anyway whatever you feel like God has called you to do.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And so that was the last lesson that he left
with me. My father was fifty four. Yeah, but he
was a great man. He got paid. I'm he said,
what is executive produce? To get his money back? Didn't
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you know what? I didn't have it to pay him.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I was trying.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm taking it. Yeah, I always tried, y'all.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
They You've always been transparent about like therapy and and
doing in the work. What do you feel the faith
community still misunderstands about mental health?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
You know, I think there's a greater focus on it
than there has been in the past. And I feel
like many people who are who have platforms are talking
about it more like you were just mentioning Sarah. Sarah
is very adamant about pushing like with her Woman Evolve.
They talk about it all the time. We always have
therapists there. She's a good good friend of mine, And
I feel like more people are being open about it.
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It wasn't just it was something that was just kind
of taboo, you know, because we.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Got the Holy goals. You know, God's gonna help with everything.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
And I think now we can just kind of teach
it a little different that God uses people to help us.
You know, most of the time, what you will find
when God is going to do something in the earth,
he's going to use a man to do a person
to do it. And so I feel like there's a
greater emphasis on it. We could do better. You know,
you have therapists like Kobe Campbell, She's absolutely amazing. If
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you've never heard her of, y'all gotta go just kind.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Of read some of the stuff that she does. You know,
she's absolutely amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So you have a lot of God centered Kingdom therapists
who are being exposed now, and I think, Jack, yes,
oh my goodness, yeah. And so you have a lot
more of that that can be trusted. And they're relevant,
like we were saying, you know, it's it's like they
know the language, but they also have the education to
help you manage like your mental health. And I think
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it's great. I think it's a lot more exposure. We
can do better, but I think we're getting good at it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
When did you know you needed it? Like you know,
you know, if you're faith for us and you believe
God is enough, you know I needed I need therapy too.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I remember, man.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
It was about twenty ten, and I was actually a
worship leader at my church, and I would go to
church and I would like sing these songs just like
I was just talking about, and watch people be healed,
watch them have moments in the presence of God. And
I would go home for like three and four days
in the dark under the covers, crying. Didn't understand why
just you know, just heavy. And I remember one night
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it just got so heavy. My cousin was my roommate,
and she was like, Tasha, I gotta go like it is.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You could feel it in my house, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
And I remember probably after she left, maybe two nights later,
I just woke up in the middle of light like
I gotta do something about this, Like I can't. I
can't continue to offer hope and inspire people. And I'm
in this dark place every day. There has to be more,
you know, for me going to therapy. Mine was self rejection.
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I dealt with rejection very bad. I was you know,
we celebrate O. Taasha got in trouble because she didn't
want to go to church. This is but along with
that was the persona of perfection. Like I adopted this perfection.
I remember being ten years old and one of the
deacons from my church would come to me and say, hey,
my son is in your class. Make sure he doing
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his homework. Can you imagine a weight of responsibility a
ten year old has to take on. So I adopted
this thing like I can't have any flaws, I can't
have any issues. I gotta be perfect, And so I
hit my flaws for years, and that went into adulthood
and it just turned into this darkness like I can't
accept who I am because I don't think people will
accept it. I don't think they'll love me, you know,
I don't think they want me. And so mine was
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really birth from self rejection.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Do you have a question your faith?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Like all the things that you've been talking about that
you went through and I see all the things that
you wrote on the.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Album Cover the World, which I love you take that
down fire?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Did you have a question in your faith? I did,
you know what?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
And it wasn't during those times that I was just
talking about. It was actually more recent.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
My husband and I went through a miscarriage and in
that time, you know, I was like, man, God, I
spend my life worshiping you. I spend my life inspiring
and teaching the Gospel of Jesus. And the one thing
that I really wanted was the one thing that I
did not get. And I remember walking through that season
and I questioned, you know, my faith was shattered. I
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remember calling my mentor, William Murphy and I said, met,
my faith is shattered right now, and he was like, good,
that's a perfect place for God to put you back together.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
And I was like, of course, you don't want to
hear that right now. I'm like, okay, we don't want
this lesson right now.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
But it was the truth that during that season, I
realized just how weak my faith was, that hey, it's
the one thing that you wanted, but God wants to
do it differently. I have a friend who her name
is Jackie Green, and she says this. She was like,
we all we often want God's will, you know, we
want the promises, we want the prophecies, and we want
the blessings, but we don't stick around to hear his way.
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And God's way for us was adoption. You know, we
have a beautiful baby boy. His name is Asher. He's
four years old, and he looks like us, acts like us.
He's a perfect fit to our family. And it was
God's way, not our way. And when I you know,
when I relinquished that like thinking it has to be
done this way and I allow God to do it
his way.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You know, my faith was is so much stronger.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
You know, it's so much stronger in your faith being
stronger and something like what you just talked about with
your fertility journey, when you when you're opening up and
kind of being honest about that, because I know you
also talked about this in your book as well too.
What do you tell others who they're not at that
silver line yet? Like, because I'm sure it took you
some time, Yeah, you to this point. Yeah, how do
you because you say you want to bring hope all
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the time, how do you coach someone through a challenge
of faith like what you went through?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Wow? You take it day by day, you know, and
you feel what you feel every day. There were some
days where I, you know, people would try to call
and I'm like, I don't want to hear it. I
don't want to hear a scripture. I don't want to
hear prayer, you know, because y'all are the same people
that's telling me you won't have a kid.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You don't have a kid, you know. And I feel like,
you know, God is God.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
He is not moved off of his throne by our humanity,
you know, And I think we've made it seem like
we can say things, are do things that offend him
and make him less God. That's you know, he wants
our truth. The Bible talks about worshiping in spirit and
in true truth. And the truth is is that in
that moment, you don't feel like it. You know, you don't,
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you don't feel the strength of your faith, and you
don't feel encouraged. And God wants that truth too, just
as much as he wants us when we're on a mountain,
he wants us when we're in the valley too.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
When you think about your father, God blessed that you
think about like miscarriages, How is grief shifted the way
you minister the people?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Oh my gosh, I love this question because a lot
of times we minister from a place like we just
want to you know, I just want to my songs
to be rooted in scripture, rooted in scripture. But sometimes
we also have to have cultural intelligence about the people
that we're ministering too, Like there are people who are
dealing with grief for real, and they don't want the
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fluff like we were just talking about. They want the honesty.
And so for me, it kind of shifted my approach
and ministry that I'm thinking there are people though there
may be thousands of people out here in this arena
or wherever I am, but they are dealing with real grief,
real heartbreak, and they don't want a false hop, you know,
they don't want the fake this is just a pretty song.
They want somebody who's gonna reach their heart, you know,
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And what comes from my heart, I believe will reach
their heart. And so yeah, those experiences really changed the
way that I minister. I remember after my dad died,
about two weeks later, I had a concert because I
canceled everything for about two weeks, and I was in
la standing on the stage and I remember just being
heartbroken and people are still worshiping, you know, they're still
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with their hands lifted, but I'm on the stage destroyed,
like my heart is broken. And a song from my
childhood came back to me. And the song, you know,
it says, I'll.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Say yes, Laury, yes to your willing, to your way.
I'll say yes, Lauries, I will trust you and obey.
And then it says, when your spirit speaks to me, and.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I changed the lyric right there on the stage with
my broken heart, I'll still agree and.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
My answer will be yes, Lord, Yes.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
And in that moment, I realized that my gift wasn't
just for the cloud, that it was also for me,
Like in those broken moments. God gave me a gift
that would help usher me through different seasons too. You
got on the album God in the Valley, the Hend
that keeps On Holding Me. Those songs are very much
like the song you just sang, yeah, And I really
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feel like so many people are relating to those songs
because it speaks directly to their season, especially right now
in the world that we're in. People don't you know,
like you were saying, people don't know sometimes where their
next meal is gonna come from. You know, there are
mothers and fathers who are really challenged about how they're
going to take care of their families. And I feel like,
you know, we have to offer some hope with the
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gifts that we have. And my gift is music. My
gift is teaching. And if I can offer one person hope,
you know, through my gifts, that's my desire.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And this is a live album. So this is my
first studio album.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Okay, yeah, this is the first time I did a
studio All of the rest of them they were live, alright,
So how do you for a live album's?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, because that's no like, you don't go back, you
don't you stopping right, you know?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
And I love the live albums because I'm a worship leader,
so you know, it gives me a moment with the crowd.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
We're we're vibing off of each other.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
The studio was actually harder for me. This was that
was a new space with no crowd. You know, I
enjoyed it eventually. My my husband is my producer, so
he's like kind of coaching me through it. But I
I I realized that we had an opportunity to bring
other elements in with the studio this time.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Like when you're doing live, you get what you get.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
You know, you got the background singers, the band is there,
you got the crowd, and you capture it that night.
But this we had an opportunity to just walk it
out day by day, like we sat in writing sessions.
I had a chance to kind of share my heart
with all of the writers. And then one of the
things that I loved the song with John Legend on church.
People don't know this. Both of our family sing and
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so we suppress them. They came to our church for
like a church anniversary and we set up one of
the rooms as a studio.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
So you hear our uncles and aunts, our parents are
all on there.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Our cousins, so the background singers, so we had a
chance to bring in other elements that meant something to
us on this project and I love that, so.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Listen. No, they don't get paid round.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
This might be a stupid question, but how do you
feel the spirit in the studio. I feel like when
you're live, you probably feel that spirit, you know what
I mean. But in the studio it's little manufactured.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
That was one of the it's not manufacturing.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
That was one of the challenges that just kind of
with me transitioning from the live crowd, feeding off of
the people to now.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
And the truth is is that I just envisioned the
people that I would be ministering to.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Like I was just talking about the mother who may
have dropped her kid off and she's having a moment
and she's listening to church on a Monday. You know,
I'm seeing her in my spirit, like I really want
this song to minister to her. So it was still
a crowd, it was just different. It was a different
approach on how you know I addressed that crowd.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I enjoyed that. I know you can't wait to sing
it live. Yeah, the reaction.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
On your last album why don't know this was your
last album before this one, Heart Passion.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Pursuit, we did.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I did another one called Him that was like a
gospel record, but the Heart Passion Pursuit, Yes, that was
a strong record. So on on that project, I know
that you had gotten some pushback for putting Nicki Minaj
on the album, right, and you've never like talked about
like why you chose to put Nicky on the album,
but you've always stood by she was meant to be
on that album. On this project, you open it with
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La Craze and I instantly understand why he's.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
On that song.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, can you talk a bit about why.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
You chose Nicki Mina should be on that album and
putting Le Cray on this album? Like how do you
go about finding your features?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And like wh did that lead?
Speaker 7 (29:53):
You? Spiritually stand by those moments because you still buy
the Nicki Minaj moment piercely.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Lots of lots of prayer with a Niki moment with
the song I'm Getting Ready.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I took a different approach.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
It was twenty seventeen, so this was before the pandemic,
when people were just putting everything out and I really
felt like during the rehearsals preparing for that record. We
were in the studio for like seven days, and so
we would sing the song, sing the songs, and I
would just put like little clips out, like Okay, this
is one of the songs we about to record.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
And Nicki saw one of the.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Clips off I'm getting ready and she sent me a
comment and was like, hey, Tasha, when you finished this song,
send it to me. I'm gonna put sixteen bars on it.
And she didn't DM me. She put that out there
in front of the entire world, so everybody come see it. Yeah,
it was a comment, and so I was like, Okay,
first of all, she's serious, this is crazy. And number two,
I started just to just listen to that song, like
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you said, even with the Lule cray Win, and I
was like, you know, this song, it's a church vibe,
but I really feel like this will work, especially with
what the content of the song was.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And so I did it.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
You know, after praying about it, I was like, you
know what, I feel like platform that she has this
is gonna expose some people who may not come to
our churches, may not ever get a gospel record. But
now if a Nicki Minaj follower will listen to a
song that said I'm getting ready to see something I've
never seen, the blessings of the Lord.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Like that was just different.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
I was like, man, okay, this is an opportunity to
spread the gospel, and so we did it.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I sent her a song.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I mean, she said it right back. I was like,
this is amazing, and so that's really it's really how
that happened. And we One of the things that people
don't know is that we also had relationship. So like
NICKI would text me, you know, I would text her,
check on her, that kind of stuff. And so said, again,
(31:43):
oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, not as often now, but you know,
I just love Nikki.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I love her.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
I love her, and you know, just like anybody else
that we love family members. There are some things that
we don't agree with, you know, but at the end
of the day, I love her. I want the best
for her, you know. And that's what that was about.
Even the last songs. I did a song on her
record called Blessings and it came about the kind of
the same way she texted me, was like, Josha, listen
to this song. I think you will be hearing on
this song. And most of it is birth from that relationship.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I really like those.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
I like I like those type of crossover collaborations like
you know you and Nikki and then Kirk Franklin did
it a Little Baby, because you know what it does, yeah,
big record, you know, and it's a crossover and it's
also a spreading of the word.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Is leading people, leading.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
People back to him, you know, because he wants that.
He wants that leadership.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
And if two other genres can do it, you know,
hip hop meets you know pop or rap meets pop,
why can't you know, always people it's always people who
has negative things to say.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
About it, like that's always gonna come. Yeah, But that's
leading people, that's spreading the word.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Nikki talks about believing in God when she raps sometimes
it sounds like she's speaking in tongue.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
But what I saw said, you know.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Her off the stage, her relationship with God. I was
just like, what is it that the churchy people are
blocking us from understanding walk because that's where that's where
a lot of the backlash was coming from from you.
I felt like she shouldn't have been doing the music
with Nicki min I and I'm like, man, I wonder
how many other times we're blocked from things spiritually because
people don't accept it and like what we missed and
(33:23):
that you.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Know what from that collaboration. I've had people, you know
a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
A lot of people came back and they were apologizing
maybe years later, like two years later. You know, I
didn't understand why you did the collaboration, But now I
understand and I apologize, Like I respect people who can
do stuff like that, and I'm never gonna, you know,
go back at them back and forth. I'm like, hey,
you know, I understand sometimes it's hard to accept, accept change,
or accept something different or receive something new.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
So I get it.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
But I've had people who was like, hey, that was
my first time ever buying a gospel record. You know,
that was my first I didn't believe in God until
I heard that song.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I hurt people.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
People have said that to me, and so to hear
those testimonies, that's what it's about, you know what I'm saying.
So I'm here to spread the gospel, and if he
has to use a platform like a Nicki Minaj in
order to do it, then I say yes.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
And like you said, God will use people yeah, like
yep ye. Are you more of a artist or worship
leader nowadays?
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Ooh ah, that's a good question. I'm a good mixture
of both. I'm forever a worship leader. One of the
things that I did not know until entering into the
industry is that being an artist is something totally different
like you, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
It's a job, you know, you have to have.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
You have to have information and knowledge and wisdom on
how to manage you as an artist, and everybody doesn't
have that. Like you can be a great singer and
not an artist. You can be I mean a great
rapper and not an artist. I think the artistry is
the part that makes you stand out.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
You know, knowing how to.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Do an interview, you you know, knowing how to to
speak well, how to carry yourself, how to manage your business,
your business affairs, and those are things that I learned
along the way.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
But all of that comes with artistry. So I would
say that I am I am both, Yes you are.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
We appreciate you. Let's get into sir, Okay, get a
record what you want to hear, let's play church, church all.
Let's get into it now. I appreciate you for joining us.
We got to close out with the preid.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Okay, am I plenty?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Thank you all right, I'm de Lord. Thank you, Thank
you for being good, thank you for being faithful in
every season. I thank you even for this platform, for
all four of these amazing people who spread inspiration, who
used their gifts and their talents just to help other
(36:08):
people and to and to just be God in the earth. God,
I thank you for the opportunity to talk about you
to millions and millions of people, to anyone who may
be listening, to anyone who may have heard, who may
be in a space of grief, you know, a space
of depression. God, I ask now that you would show
yourself to them in a special way today. In Jesus' name,
(36:28):
you be glorified.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Amen, Amen, a man.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Yes, Breakfast club, good morning, Thank.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You, Thank y'all.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Every day, breakfast
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Glove, y'all done.
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