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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club pouring Everybody is the j n V
just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Laura La Rosa is here as well, and we got
a special guest in the building, the legendary Tasha Smith. Ladies, gentlemen,
She's welcome morning.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
How you feeling.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I feel amazing. I feel like I'm at home. I
feel like you're with family.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I love you guys.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I appreciate you, guys, your voice, what you do. I
just really appreciate you. Thank you seriously.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
You are one of the most underrated people in this business.
You do not get the credits you deserve. Well, like
the way you pour into people in the stars that
you've helped become stars.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I don't even know if people understand that part of it.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
Everybody's story is Tasha Smith said. First, Tasha Smith told.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Me to like well, speaking of pouring into people, I
just I don't know if you knew this, but right
before Tasha walked in, Lauren was fixing a wig, and
you know.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
She was asking Tasha for Tashi be fly all the time.
Speaker 7 (01:02):
You just came in here and started matching.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Today now you're talking about being just showed up with
the same colored face.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But she was fixing away and kind of like wiping
her eyes like she was tearing up.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I said, what was happened?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
She was like, you know, when I left TMZ, the
one person I called was Tasha Smith.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh my goodness, you want to explain.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
I think I text you and I was like, hey,
I'm thinking about leaving my job.
Speaker 7 (01:27):
I was like, I'm thinking about leaving. I don't have
a lashes today.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Shut up.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
I was like, I think I about leaving my job,
but just wanted to talk to somebody that like understands,
like you know, career and like you know, longevity in it.
We had met and we talked before, but I was
just like, you know, everybody has like such a great
story of like how your perception of them and kind
of what you see for them. And I was like,
I don't really know who I can call and I
trust right now. And I reached out to you. I
text you and you sent me a voice note back,
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and I remember I was driving into my garage and
I pulled over and was just sent to the voice
note and you were like, whatever it is you're feeling,
do it. You are a star. You're going to be great.
Don't be scared. Do it and let me know when
it's done. And I here, I am.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I am so proud of you. Can I just tell
you that I am so proud of you. When I
saw everything that was going on, I was literally singing
your praises to have the courage and boldness to make
a decision to live your life in the way that
you saw it. And I'm so proud that you took
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that leap of faith. And it's something I got to
share something with y'all because when I was at I
was like meditating last night and I was thinking about you,
and I was thinking about Jess, not trying to like,
but y'all are both my girls. You know. I played
Jess as mom, you know, on a TV show, and
y'all are my babies. And when I think about just
us as black women and just how powerful and unique
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we are, I was meditating and I was like, what
is it that I can say to women?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And do you mind if I just see share this? Okay?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So what I ended up writing down was you are
not in competition, You're in community. And us as women
sometimes we think we're in competition, but we're not in competition,
We're in community, right. And also, your light doesn't dim
because someone else is shining, Like, it's not going to
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dim our light to let someone else shine.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
If anything, when all of us are.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Walking in the room together allowing ourselves to shine, that
room becomes even brighter.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
The other thing I thought about, and this was you
and Jess, is that every woman is uniquely designed. I
was thinking about my girls over here. That's Monique, that
is my girl, Bendetsha, and I'm like, look at how
individual they are, look at how individual we are.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
We're all unique, we're all.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Different, right, But we don't have to fear about anybody
taking up space because there's room for every shade of brilliance.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
The other thing I wrote down was insecurity dissolves when
we recognize individually as women are divine design, because we
are all designed divinely by God, right, and when we
embrace our uniqueness, we give others permission to do the same.
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So let's celebrate each other, you know that, right, Yes,
And let's allow ourselves to not be afraid of anyone
else's light out like outshining our light because it can't.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Happen when we walk in who we are.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I love you, I love Jess, and I love what
both of you are doing. Your voices are so important
to our culture and to our women, so let's allow
ourselves to remember. And not that you guys feel like this,
but this is for all of us women that we
are not in competition. We are in community, period.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I just love you.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I say that, okay, as you were saying that, I'm
reading your arm and it says trust God.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
And dream big.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
So these are too, like these were my first two
tattoos that I ever got right because and I always
say this, you may have heard me say this before,
that we have to dream big right and how whatever
our dreams are, it's not a figment of our imagination,
but God's showing us a glimpse, a glimpse of our future.
And even you deciding to leave where you were, that
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was something that God placed in you, saying it's time
to move. And a lot of times we get comfortable
and complacent with where we are, but God's not always
feeding us in the place that we've already been. And
in order for us to get that new food that
God has for us, we got to make moves and
go into areas that we're unsure of, but that's where
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our faith lies, and that's where we end up experiencing
God in a whole other way.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Could you imagine if.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You did not leave, you wouldn't be experiencing God the
way that you are now in your life.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
So I'm excited. Let's go. Okay, seriously, Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
My god, I think right now, who did that for you?
Oh what you just did for Lauren and Jess? Who
did that for you when you were going to con you.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Do it without like like it's just you.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Like the first time I met you, I think I
don't remember if it was at Earn. I don't think
it was Ernes's party, but the first time I met you,
our first interaction, I was just like, she's really like,
this is just her? Like if if you just pour
in like effortlessly, like who taught you to?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And you know what, I and a lot of people,
and I'll tell us two things I want to share.
One is I remember a while ago, and I think
I've told you about, you know, the time I had
gotten born again, and you know, I went to ministry
school and I thought, oh, one day I'm gonna be
a preacher or something like that. But I realized that
my ministry is what I'm doing, Like is me teaching acting,
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me empowering other people to pursue their purpose, my acting,
my directing, you know, being a good leader. Like those
are the things that I learned that I feel like
I could utilize those gifts in the world that I'm in,
within this industry as far as other people that have
done that for me, I'm gonna be honest. Angela Bassett
and Marianne Jean Baptiste. I don't know if you're familiar
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with mary Anne Jean Baptiste, but she's an amazing actress
from England. You know she's she's in a film right
now called Hard Truths, Heart Truths, and she was in
a she was nominated for Oscar years ago called Secrets
and Lies. But she's a brilliant actress from the UK.
And I remember I was on as series and I
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never even shared this out loud. I've never shared this publicly,
but I'm just I feel it. I'm gonna share it.
I was on a show called for Better or Worse,
and I was tired of doing the show, Like I
just felt like God had more for me me. Although
it was a blessing at the time and I had
a good time and it was a wonderful thing, but
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in my spirit, I kept feeling like my voice isn't
being heard as far as my artistic voice in a
way that I feel like it could be. And you know,
I was making money, it was cool, whatever, but I said,
but I feel like I have to go. And she
was someone that I made that call to the way
you talk to me. She was the one that talked
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to me like that and said, go and pursue your dreams.
Go and do what you desire to do. You would
act for free. You would be in acting class class
acting for free. Go and pursue what's in your heart.
And when I quit, for better or worse, because I did,
I ended up going and that's when I started really
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pursuing my directing and I made space for my directing.
So me walking out of that space, not only did
I end up getting Empire, which gave me a whole
nother rhythm of acting that I could experience, but that's
also the birth of my directing career. It was me
taking that leap of faith and now I have this
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whole new, you know, like career opportunity and all of
that stuff. But it was for me making that one
move that seemed crazy to everybody else.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I didn't even tell nobody.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
They didn't even know when I came here, I had
already had the guest hosting schedule. I didn't tell my mom,
I didn't tell my grandmother. And because I didn't want
to hear nobody tell me not to do it, I
just quit and drove home.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
And then I came here.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And isn't that deep house?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Sometimes you can't tell everybody your move or your dream
because think about it. Sometimes when you want to do
something that might seem crazy to others, people will give
you advice based on their own fear and their own insecurity,
Like just because you ain't got the faith to go mean,
don't project that on me. So sometimes no, you gotta
keep your move silent sometimes because other people will discourage
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you out of what's in your heart to do.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
So I'm happy for you, sis.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
What's your thoughts on you know, a lot of people
say that it's difficult for women to work with each other,
and this is where this situation came from, and they
say that women are always in competition and it's not
enough community. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, it's what I was sharing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I feel like sometimes us as women, they think it's
about being competitive. They think that just because someone else
is shining, it's going to dim my light, when that's.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Not the truth.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Like, if we allow ourselves to embrace our uniqueness and
our individuality, we will encourage other people to embrace theirs.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Have you had the issue? I want to ask that
you know, I've.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Never been a jealous girl, Like it's just not how
I've been. Like, I've never been like a girl where
I'm like mad at somebody else's I mean, look at me.
I'm an acting teacher like and most of the women
that I teach, from Mary J. Bloch to Andrew Day
to MICHAELA. Cole to FKA Twigs. I mean, I can
go on and on, like God has placed some readible
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women around me whose lives I got to pour into.
But also they pour into my life just through the
process of working. They encourage me to dream as big
as possible. But I also want to say something about
self love, and that's the thing I feel with some
of us women that may cause us to be you know,
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insecure or jealous, because you know what jealousy does, It
creates division and separation.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Right. But I feel like the lack of.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Self love sometimes could calls could create you know, the
way that we.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Go out in the world.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And if we don't have self love, then I might
be insecure around her or insecure around another person. But
if we embrace our self love, you know, we will
allow everybody to be. We will grant people out of love, right,
the permission to be who they are. Like I told
my girls today, I said, y'all, bitches better get cute.
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Today I'm not even playing. I say, y'all, bitch is
better get cute. My sister Bernicia, she came around me
the other day to do the first day she got
here to do my makeup. When I tell you, she
was covered up, like she literally covered up her entire body.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I was like, no, she was.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
She thought I would be insecure of her being a
bad bitch because sometimes you know what I'm saying, like
going around, like if you come and do some women,
if you have insecurity and you see this this ass
and this little waist in these titties and this fine
girl walking in you'll be like, I'm uncomfortable, but no,
I actually love for my girls to be beautiful. I
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love bad bitches only around me. Okay, I just love it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I love it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
But we just had to yes, right right.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
But I just think lack of self love, you know,
and us not allowing ourselves to embrace our individuality and
our uniqueness. And the more that embrace that for ourselves,
the more we can allow others to do that. Like
I love like when I think about Taraji, when I
think about Angela Bassett, when I think about Janet Jackson,
when I think about Naomi Campbell, and these are all
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my friends. I can't be insecure with bad bitches like
that in my life. I'm sorry because they're all incredible.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I saw you at your sisterhood around Oh my god,
and it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
We got a chance to celebrate me and my sister's
birthday together, and then niece's birthday was the.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Next week and we went and celebrated her birthday. It
was like we were all team Black women on steroids.
It was just awesome. It was awesome.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
I think one of the biggest things that I learned
from this past two weeks, like with everything that was happening,
is like how much we were paying attention because there
were so many people that reached out even in private
and did what you just said, like hey, like I
want to talk to you, I want to talk to
y'all whatever, And I think it's like it was crazy
when it was happening, but now like taking a step
out of all of it, I'm like people are getting
to realize that, like sisterhood sometimes can look like we
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might have misunderstandings and we got we we have to
talk about it.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
We got to figure that out.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
What has that been like for you in your career,
because we don't hear a lot of y'all stories. If
there were misunderstandings between you and any of the other girls, and.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Best believe it be a lot of misunderstanding. You know
what I'm saying, It'd be a lot of misunderstandings.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It be a lot of that, like.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Seriously and physically.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
But see that's why I like and I'm from Camden,
so it's some people I listen because I always say
as nice as I am, as as nice as I'm
not right, you know what I mean? And it's some
energy I know, I just don't flow with I just
don't because if it's that kind of energy that's coming in.
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I'm not a mean girl. I don't like mean girls.
I don't like it. I don't like seeing women treating
each other poorly or badly. It makes me sick. But
I'll tell you one thing about me. I have never
ran from a fight like one. I'm not afraid of,
you know, confronting confrontation, having hard conversations, and most people
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they will throw rocks and.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Then hide their hands. I don't like that. I don't
do that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I'm about that life of having conversations, confronting the situation.
Let's sit down and let's talk, and let's deal with
the discomfort of whatever it is you're feeling. But most
of the time, y'all, most people don't want to ever
really sit down and talk because they don't want to
have to be able to acknowledge what it is that
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they're internally going through, like whatever their internal struggle is.
It's easy for people to run and act like they're
a victim.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
But if people really.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Confronted things and had honest conversations, they would realize that
most of the pettiness is not because of something external,
but it's because of your own individual internal struggle, and
that's what's creating the external problem.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
It starts within you. Period.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
How do you deal with the noise?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Because I think even with them to go out of
their situation, but it was the noise.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Was it the interior outside people?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Can I tell you, oh my god, I'm getting noise though?
Oh honey, Can I just well, I try to, you know,
I try to.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I'll tell you this about noise.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It's something you ask about noise. Were we talking about noise?
I was just talking to my girls about sometimes it
is so important for us to sit in silence.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Right. Think about when you're.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
On the phone, bro, and it's a lot of noise
going on, what do you do? You'd be like, hold up,
wait a second, let me step away so that I
could hear this call clearly, right, And a lot of times,
especially when you think about all the social media and
all that stuff, we allow ourselves to stay in the
noise and stay listening to the noise when sometimes we
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might have to put the phone down, be silent, don't
listen to anything, because in your silence, that's when you
really hear the still small voice of God on the
inside of you, but you can't hear God. And how
God wants to guide you to deal with the situation
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if you're allowing yourself to constantly listen to the noise.
So the way I deal with noise is I try
to allow myself to get as silent as possible.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
You feel me absolutely hundred Have you ever had to
get lied with a person? And what does that sound like, Tasha?
Because I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
So from Canada, But doesn't she already loud? So what
just getting loud?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I put into you like this. I'm a passionate human.
I'm a passionate human.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Bruh.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
And as loud.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
As my goodness is, I put to you like this.
One time I cust somebody out really bad and I
went to my pastor and I was like, oh my god,
I feel so bad. And she said to me, sometimes
you gotta meet the enemy's aggression.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
That the Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
But the violence take it by force, and sometimes some
people need to get checked. So when it's time to
get loud, like I said, I don't mind.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
It, boom boom, I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I don't mind it, bro.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I swear my loud can be loud, and honestly, when
I get loud, people get traumatized. I mean, I'm serious,
Like you know when I said folks that throw rocks
and then hide their hands, like I've had situations like
that and when I've had to check people like that,
then they want to go run in the corner and.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Cry back like that. I'm like, don't cry, big bad bitch.
Don't do it, big bitch, big man. Okay, Like, don't cry.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Don't cry now boo okay. And sometimes it's what yours.
It's the seed that's that you're reaping.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Period. You know what the Bible.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Say, whatsoever a man show it that he show also
reap and sometimes you know they reap that ass kicking.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I'm just saying that a Chappelle Chane. Yes, we were
actually talking about that earlier.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Y'ah.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
This was a gift from my brother Dave. I love
him so much. He wanted me to he was happy
for me doing the show, he was happy for a
lot of the things that's been happening in my life.
And and this was a gift that he gifted me.
And it's not many people that have a Chappelle chain,
and I don't know, do y'all know, Like I've known
Chappelle for like thirty years, like we started, y'all know,
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I used to be a stand up comic, right, Yeah,
so I was a stand up comic. Dave was like
he was literally a mentor at like eighteen.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
When Dave was eighteen nineteen years old, he was I
call my big little brother, you know, and he helped
me out so much like you know some of those people.
And I should have thought it Dave, Becausezabe was one
of those people that always encouraged me, inspired me every
time anything was happening in my life. I can't tell
you how many times I've gotten calls about I'm proud
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of you.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Keep going, keep dreaming.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
He's such a motivator and he's been such a blessing
in my life. I cannot tell you. So, Yes, this
is a Chappelle chano.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I love that because you know, we live in an
era where people don't like to represent folks who have
assisted them or provided them opportunity, or helped him.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And I don't understand that.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I don't understand resenting somebody that has helped you in
somewhere like you should rep them exactly.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I'm with you on that, Yeah, Rep and Dave.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Now you got a lot going on. I know she
got to go fast.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Yes, I love that show.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Yes, But in the newer season, season two, you have
like now we're learning more about your character and kind
of like you have your own storyline and things of
that nature. I know what was the decision to do
that because it wasn't like that in previous seasons. Fully,
like we knew a little bit about what you had
going on, but not as much focus.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, I mean, I thank god for the writing team
that they like focus more on her relationship. And you
know my character, I play a queer woman, right and
I you know, I've never.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Been a queer woman before.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Okay, I'm just saying, like I legit ain't ever been
with a woman before, Like okay, like for real research, Well,
I asked, look, coach me. The acting teacher I worked
with was a guy named Carl Ford, who I love deeply.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Okay, Susan Batson's son.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I don't know if you guys know Susan, but but anyway,
so Jerry Johnson, I'll tell y'all this I directed Harlem,
and I directed some beautiful scenes with Jerry and Gail
bean right, and I was just obsessed, Like I knew
that survival was coming up, and I was just really
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pouring into them as a director. But while I was
pouring into them, I promise you, I was dreaming. I
was like saying, God, please bless me with someone like
these two women, Like the way that they were, and
as supportive as they were. As Gail and Jerry were
with one another, I wanted to experience that as an actor.
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So when it was time to see who my love
interest was, Jerry was up for the job. So Jerry
and I, I said, Jerry, we're gonna get together because
what I saw you do with Gail, I really want
you to do this part.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
So she and I.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Got together and we rehearse Michelle didn't notice.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Nobody knew this.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
We were rehearsing before her screen test, okay, so that
by the time we did our screen test together, our
chemistry was incredible. And I said to her, because she's
a queer woman, I said, I need you to teach
me everything. So the first thing she taught me when
we were filming our love scene was how two women
had sex because when they said it's top of y'all
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to have sex, bro, I opened up.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
All right.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Trying to Lake.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
I was like, how does this happen?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
And she was like you really ain't never had one.
And then she went was like we do it like Dan, you.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Know, the little scissors.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And so I was like, thank god you was here
because I didn't want to look stupid.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Sais okay, But it worked out for her because she
got the wrong She got the role and they have
a sex. This is your and this was your first
this is your first time being on camera and a
female female sex.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
We had like the first season.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I had some makeout scenes and stuff like that, but
as far as like having like a full bless second, yeah,
that was my first time. But I gotta tell you,
working with Jerry, it was just like easy and it
was just it was fun and it was wonderful and
she was just wonderful.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
That is my sister for life. Jerry.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I'm giving you a shout out. I love you sis
all the time. Now, you know, i'd be like, stop.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You call it a dry run.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
We didn't.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
We were rehearsing that particular, like we didn't do that
in rehearsal, Like, but that was when.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
We were actually filming the sex scene.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Would you give a woman to try it's.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Okay for him to ask me that. I'm gonna just
keep it one hundred y'all. Like I'm like a gay man.
I'm like a gay man.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
What do gay men like?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Did? I mean?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I'm not even lying, bro, I am like the gayest
man in the world.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
Like I am a straight up bass man, like I
love like I just love it too much, Like I'm
not even playing and I mean literally, I mean, and
even if I'm out, if I'm messing with, why are.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Y'all so stupid?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
You started it at me?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Wait? Let me just tell y'all this all right, I'm
about to say, So that's like a little all right.
So I'm like, when a man goes down on you,
it's great. I love it, but i'd be like, I'm
not a lesbian, so we gotta.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Follow this motherfucker bag.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
You know what I'm saying with some penis, Like I
just you know, it's just what I like.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Because I've heard people say that women do it better
on women because they know what the woman wants. But
I be thinking, like after that it's like, now it's
like you you know, want coming out.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
It's that's like having a salad but you can't get
the steak. You know what I'm saying, that's just me
or no dressing and okay, but you know what to
I'll just.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Say this is all I always think about that.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Remember how I'll be having.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
The conversation with studs and I'm like, so, y'all be
sucking this, Like imagine having the scrapp on on and
a woman is sucking it and then the person with
the scrap on is moaning that.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
But if that's what you're into, maybe if it feels you.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
But I be thinking about like girls who are trying
it for the first time or like you know they're by.
It's like, so if you're by, you know, like you're
not like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Let me tell y'all this.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I think it's all about preference, Like it's all about
what you eat.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Like I don't no way.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
But you know how there's some foods like some people
like chocolate cake, some people like vanilla cakes, some people
fish right, and some people like fish.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Some people like.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Steak, right, I mean, and for me, I just like
what I like and just like, you can't like turn
a gay man that likes.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
What he likes to have a woman, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
You can't turn a straight woman to one something else.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I mean, I just like what I like.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But I love you know what I'm saying, Like, go
get yours?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And what about desiree in a temptation store?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Oh? Wow, you guys. I'm so excited about that. It's
funny because I was showing Monique the trailer. You girls,
I do do? They are girls? Okay, like seriously, but
I was.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I was showing Monique, I was showing you and Bernicia
last night. I was like, y'all want to see the trailer,
you know. And when Monique saw it, she was like,
I've never seen you in a role like that.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
And so all these like years of being in this industry,
I've never gotten a chance to play that role. So
shout out to Derek Williams, my producer. I got a
chance to produce it with him, and he gave me
that script and I was so happy he gave it
to me, and I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
It's it's a thriller. It's like fun It's like.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And I feel like it helped me tap into things
that I've never gotten a chance to really reveal on camera.
I feel like I'm still I feel like I'm just
starting acting.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
All over again.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
You have a refreshing energy all the time.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
But I do feel it like you're in a different
season or something about you right now.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
I don't know what it is, but it's there.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I think it's my self love season says I love
that for you. You hear me, I love that for you? Now?
You know?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
He need to reach out to who saying you praise?
It's on Shannon shap Charlamage messages with him all the time.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Oh God, I love Do you know how much I
love you? And Donelle?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Would y'all be doing that little stuff?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Will he be doing those?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I mean sometimes I be text him saying, leave my
brother alone time.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
He needs you. He needs your coaching. I just want
done Know to have more confidence like Donella is dope.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
He's incredible, And y'all remember I put him on BMF
Like I swear, I think he is so talented.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I cannot wait to work with him again. I swear
to God like he is so interesting, he is so funny.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That's a good example, as far as like allowing your
uniqueness to shine. Like when I think about Dave and Donelle,
and I remember I had a conversation with Dave and
it was I'm rephrasing it, but I was like, you know,
what makes you work with him? Dave's like, I get
sharper when I when I have to follow someone good,
Like he's not always looking for comics that are not good.
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He looks for comics that are great. That's what challenges
him to be great. You know what I'm saying. So
greatness around us, it helps stretches us, you know. And Donelle,
I love you so much. I love you so much.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
He's somebody who needs to silence the noise in his head.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
He gotta calm down. But he I talk to you.
I'm gonna talk to you, tie, you gonna be all right? Right.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I want to ask you something as an acting coach,
like when you have already great talent, right, because I
don't know how often the great talent seeks acting coaches
for every role. I don't know if that's the thing,
like this, did Zelle seek an acting coach for every role?
I Jonathan Major seeker acting coach for every row?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I don't know, well, I mean I put it to
you like this.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I don't know individually all the way with as far
as how their process is. But it's a lot of
us actors that enjoy the collaborative process because it's almost
like you want to work with someone that can maybe
see things that you can't see, you know what I'm saying.
And the process of acting and the process of like
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researching a character and developing a character, it's a fun
process to do with a great coach or teacher. Just
because Michael Jordan was a great athlete, it didn't mean
that he did not need a great coach. Most of
our greatest artists have great coaches, most of them, that's right,
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most of them.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
So when you have a great actor, you just teach
them how to capture that role, not necessarily how to act.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
No, it's not about teaching them how to act. It's
about us together looking for like all that we can
find within the characters.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Is it like redoing the fundamental.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
It's not in every For me.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I'll just say this as a teacher, every process is different.
Like it's it's a very spiritual experience. You know, you
have your fundamentals, like your you know, baseline, right, Like
I come from Ivani Chabbik school, So we have something
called the twelve steps that we do.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
You know, we have like a base.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
What is your overall objective you're seen objective, your inner monologue,
your inner thoughts, your substitutions, your it's certain things that
we are looking for within it. But outside of that baseline,
there are other things that come up. Character research, physicality,
you know what I'm saying, like all kinds of stuff.
So each person is different based on each character is different,
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each process is different, and it's like all of it
is like an incredible like spiritual experience. And I always say,
as much as you need the character, the character needs you,
and everything is on the inside of us, like all
of it is in there. We just got to look
for it and find it. And as a coach, I
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just sometimes it's pushing people to trust their instincts more.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
It could be as simple.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
As that, you know what I mean, And but we
discover so many things through the process of acting. Absolutely,
I don't want to go to with y'all all day,
Like seriously, okay.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Why did I get married again?
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Where are we honey again?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I'm gonna just leave it right there, girl, I am
not talking.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
About that because it's not happening.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Probably not, and it ain't because I'm busy tyler to
take what three days to do a movie?
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Who ain't got a week I mean, who ain't got
a weekend?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
All right, do not get me started.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You want to do it?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Of course I.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Want to do it.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Why do you troll us like that?
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Why he trolled me like that?
Speaker 7 (33:14):
So no, cause no, nothing has happened.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I refuse to answer any more questions concerning that, okay,
because I might get loud.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
We've been having all these conversations about community. Do you
think community is earned or a right?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I feel like it's earned, like I was.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I remember I had one girl say I don't have
any friends, and you know, I go back. I always
go back to scripture. I'm like a cussin breacher. No
let me stop. But you know it's like, if you
want a friend, you got to show yourself friendly. How
do you create relationship? How do you create friendship? You
have to first allow yourself to give friendship in order
to get friendship.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
And to me, like when.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I look at like like acting, or when I look
at you know, just people what makes you really valuable.
It's not just about your own greatness, but to me,
your value becomes the based on how you're able to
change other people's lives.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
To me, that's what makes you valuable.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Like if I can empower somebody else to pursue their purpose,
to make money to feed their family, I just lifted
up myself. But not only with that, I've also created community.
I love my acting school Tea Saw, because you know,
for me, I'm always like what I say to you
and everybody else as far as like we're not in competition,
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we're in community, Like we are all here together. The
brighter we all are individually, the brighter we are in unity,
Like let's go. But I love Tea Saw because the
people that were in class like fifteen twenty years ago
at my school, I look at their lives now and
they are all best friends today. Like when I think
about Tabitha Brown who came out of my school, Natari Spencer,
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who's like now feast of Williams, Chastity Saunders. I mean,
I can go on aiming Joseph Lance Gross, I mean,
Tiffany Hadish, But every time we're all in a room together,
everybody's like, oh, come on, y'all, it's the family. It's
like community. But I feel like we earn that by
how we love each other period. You just casually throughout Sordo.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
When you move to l A, they're like, we don't
care if you want to act or not. If you're
trying to be anywhere in front of people, you need
to go to Tasha Smith's class. Like that's how I
found out. It was like, this is the thing you do.
Do do one church and Tisa, that's what you do
as a black creative in la But you have it's
so many people and you're just like, you.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Know what we call TESA. We call it the Church
of Acting.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
And I remember one time at class right I had
left out because I had to go save Cidra and
in at Martin, So I was not in class this
particular night, but mister Denzel Washington had decided to come
and visit class and I wasn't there. I was pissed,
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but he came to class and from what the teacher
and the students told me that he was sitting in
the back of the class with a hat on.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Nobody knew who he was.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
And in my school, I had just pictures of like
every incredible artist I could think of on the walls
because I wanted when people came into the class, I
wanted them to look at the walls and dream like.
I wanted them to see where their life could be,
what they could possibly do. And so Kevin, the teacher
at the time, he was like talking about that in
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the class, and then all of a sudden they heard
someone say in the back, I better be up on
that wall, and then all the students turned around and
it was Denzel Washington.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Can you believe that?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
And Denzel's the one that told Mary J. Blige that
she should come and study with me. But he ended
up staying in that class, and he ended up teaching
that class for like until like probably went two hours
over and it was like so incredible.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
I don't even know how I got on that story.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
It was something that was being said, but that was
just such a blessing, like to have him there inspiring
all the students, and just any opportunity that, you know,
we get to pour into other actors in order for
them to go and pursue their dreams. Like I see
so many of my students that are so wealthy and thriving.
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Some of them have better careers than me. I've never
been nominated for an Oscar, you know what I mean,
that's never happened, but I love seeing it happen for Andrew.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Day from Mary J. Blige and hopefully Michayla Cole and
FKA Twigs.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
But they do kickbas coming up like what do you
mean just this money? Tasha his just call you know what?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
The only now this is sad. Okay, this is sad,
but not Look, I don't look for kickbacks.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
I put it to you like this.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Like my production my production company is called Camden Bridge
because there was a time I was teaching, teaching, teaching,
and I got a little angry because I felt like
people were walking over me all the time. And I
remember I heard inside in my spirit that it's okay
to be a bridge.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
That it's okay. A bridge has purpose.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Right, Sometimes it gets walked over, sometimes it gets driven over,
but it's a connector of people. And be focused and
be a blessing at being a bridge. So my production
company's name is Camden Bridge.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Okay, be a bridge. What were we saying? I mean,
am I getting old? Okay?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
So all right, I have to just be okay with
being a bridge, so I don't I don't get it
for kickback. But the one person, actually it's a shame.
I'm not trying to shame nobody. But the one person
that gave me a very big gift was Rebel Wilson.
I remember one day Rebel Wilson had the white girl
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I know, but no, but Twigs actually gave me this
big crystal for Christmas last year, this.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Big beautiful like she said, she said.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Here's a little sparkle that you give to the world.
And it was like the biggest, most beautiful crystal. And look,
both of them are British and Rebel one day she
hit me up and said, uh, you have a delivery coming,
make sure you're home.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
And it was just this huge, gorgeous ys l bag.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Okay, I mean it was just big, just a huge one.
So I know she spends the money on that period.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Okay, ok you know she got to go. But we appreciate,
we appreciate, Thank you so much, wors Jess.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Just I thought she was trying to hang on, but
you okay, well we love you, Jess, I miss you,
all right, I love you, guys.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Wake till airs up. Early in the morning at Breakfast
Club
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club pouring Everybody is the j n V
just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Laura La Rosa is here as well, and we got
a special guest in the building, the legendary Tasha Smith. Ladies, gentlemen,
She's welcome morning.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
How you feeling.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I feel amazing. I feel like I'm at home. I
feel like you're with family.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I love you guys.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I appreciate you, guys, your voice, what you do. I
just really appreciate you. Thank you seriously.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
You are one of the most underrated people in this business.
You do not get the credits you deserve. Well, like
the way you pour into people in the stars that
you've helped become stars.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I don't even know if people understand that part of it.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
Everybody's story is Tasha Smith said. First, Tasha Smith told.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Me to like well, speaking of pouring into people, I
just I don't know if you knew this, but right
before Tasha walked in, Lauren was fixing a wig, and
you know.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
She was asking Tasha for Tashi be fly all the time.
Speaker 7 (01:02):
You just came in here and started matching.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Today now you're talking about being just showed up with
the same colored face.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But she was fixing away and kind of like wiping
her eyes like she was tearing up.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I said, what was happened?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
She was like, you know, when I left TMZ, the
one person I called was Tasha Smith.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh my goodness, you want to explain.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
I think I text you and I was like, hey,
I'm thinking about leaving my job.
Speaker 7 (01:27):
I was like, I'm thinking about leaving. I don't have
a lashes today.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Shut up.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
I was like, I think I about leaving my job,
but just wanted to talk to somebody that like understands,
like you know, career and like you know, longevity in it.
We had met and we talked before, but I was
just like, you know, everybody has like such a great
story of like how your perception of them and kind
of what you see for them. And I was like,
I don't really know who I can call and I
trust right now. And I reached out to you. I
text you and you sent me a voice note back,
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and I remember I was driving into my garage and
I pulled over and was just sent to the voice
note and you were like, whatever it is you're feeling,
do it. You are a star. You're going to be great.
Don't be scared. Do it and let me know when
it's done. And I here, I am.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I am so proud of you. Can I just tell
you that I am so proud of you. When I
saw everything that was going on, I was literally singing
your praises to have the courage and boldness to make
a decision to live your life in the way that
you saw it. And I'm so proud that you took
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that leap of faith. And it's something I got to
share something with y'all because when I was at I
was like meditating last night and I was thinking about you,
and I was thinking about Jess, not trying to like,
but y'all are both my girls. You know. I played
Jess as mom, you know, on a TV show, and
y'all are my babies. And when I think about just
us as black women and just how powerful and unique
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we are, I was meditating and I was like, what
is it that I can say to women?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And do you mind if I just see share this? Okay?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So what I ended up writing down was you are
not in competition, You're in community. And us as women
sometimes we think we're in competition, but we're not in competition,
We're in community, right. And also, your light doesn't dim
because someone else is shining, Like, it's not going to
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dim our light to let someone else shine.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
If anything, when all of us are.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Walking in the room together allowing ourselves to shine, that
room becomes even brighter.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
The other thing I thought about, and this was you
and Jess, is that every woman is uniquely designed. I
was thinking about my girls over here. That's Monique, that
is my girl, Bendetsha, and I'm like, look at how
individual they are, look at how individual we are.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
We're all unique, we're all.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Different, right, But we don't have to fear about anybody
taking up space because there's room for every shade of brilliance.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
The other thing I wrote down was insecurity dissolves when
we recognize individually as women are divine design, because we
are all designed divinely by God, right, and when we
embrace our uniqueness, we give others permission to do the same.
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So let's celebrate each other, you know that, right, Yes,
And let's allow ourselves to not be afraid of anyone
else's light out like outshining our light because it can't.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Happen when we walk in who we are.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I love you, I love Jess, and I love what
both of you are doing. Your voices are so important
to our culture and to our women, so let's allow
ourselves to remember. And not that you guys feel like this,
but this is for all of us women that we
are not in competition. We are in community, period.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I just love you.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I say that, okay, as you were saying that, I'm
reading your arm and it says trust God.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
And dream big.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
So these are too, like these were my first two
tattoos that I ever got right because and I always
say this, you may have heard me say this before,
that we have to dream big right and how whatever
our dreams are, it's not a figment of our imagination,
but God's showing us a glimpse, a glimpse of our future.
And even you deciding to leave where you were, that
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was something that God placed in you, saying it's time
to move. And a lot of times we get comfortable
and complacent with where we are, but God's not always
feeding us in the place that we've already been. And
in order for us to get that new food that
God has for us, we got to make moves and
go into areas that we're unsure of, but that's where
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our faith lies, and that's where we end up experiencing
God in a whole other way.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Could you imagine if.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You did not leave, you wouldn't be experiencing God the
way that you are now in your life.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
So I'm excited. Let's go. Okay, seriously, Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
My god, I think right now, who did that for you?
Oh what you just did for Lauren and Jess? Who
did that for you when you were going to con you.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Do it without like like it's just you.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Like the first time I met you, I think I
don't remember if it was at Earn. I don't think
it was Ernes's party, but the first time I met you,
our first interaction, I was just like, she's really like,
this is just her? Like if if you just pour
in like effortlessly, like who taught you to?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And you know what, I and a lot of people,
and I'll tell us two things I want to share.
One is I remember a while ago, and I think
I've told you about, you know, the time I had
gotten born again, and you know, I went to ministry
school and I thought, oh, one day I'm gonna be
a preacher or something like that. But I realized that
my ministry is what I'm doing, Like is me teaching acting,
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me empowering other people to pursue their purpose, my acting,
my directing, you know, being a good leader. Like those
are the things that I learned that I feel like
I could utilize those gifts in the world that I'm in,
within this industry as far as other people that have
done that for me, I'm gonna be honest. Angela Bassett
and Marianne Jean Baptiste. I don't know if you're familiar
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with mary Anne Jean Baptiste, but she's an amazing actress
from England. You know she's she's in a film right
now called Hard Truths, Heart Truths, and she was in
a she was nominated for Oscar years ago called Secrets
and Lies. But she's a brilliant actress from the UK.
And I remember I was on as series and I
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never even shared this out loud. I've never shared this publicly,
but I'm just I feel it. I'm gonna share it.
I was on a show called for Better or Worse,
and I was tired of doing the show, Like I
just felt like God had more for me me. Although
it was a blessing at the time and I had
a good time and it was a wonderful thing, but
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in my spirit, I kept feeling like my voice isn't
being heard as far as my artistic voice in a
way that I feel like it could be. And you know,
I was making money, it was cool, whatever, but I said,
but I feel like I have to go. And she
was someone that I made that call to the way
you talk to me. She was the one that talked
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to me like that and said, go and pursue your dreams.
Go and do what you desire to do. You would
act for free. You would be in acting class class
acting for free. Go and pursue what's in your heart.
And when I quit, for better or worse, because I did,
I ended up going and that's when I started really
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pursuing my directing and I made space for my directing.
So me walking out of that space, not only did
I end up getting Empire, which gave me a whole
nother rhythm of acting that I could experience, but that's
also the birth of my directing career. It was me
taking that leap of faith and now I have this
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whole new, you know, like career opportunity and all of
that stuff. But it was for me making that one
move that seemed crazy to everybody else.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I didn't even tell nobody.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
They didn't even know when I came here, I had
already had the guest hosting schedule. I didn't tell my mom,
I didn't tell my grandmother. And because I didn't want
to hear nobody tell me not to do it, I
just quit and drove home.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
And then I came here.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And isn't that deep house?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Sometimes you can't tell everybody your move or your dream
because think about it. Sometimes when you want to do
something that might seem crazy to others, people will give
you advice based on their own fear and their own insecurity,
Like just because you ain't got the faith to go mean,
don't project that on me. So sometimes no, you gotta
keep your move silent sometimes because other people will discourage
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you out of what's in your heart to do.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
So I'm happy for you, sis.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
What's your thoughts on you know, a lot of people
say that it's difficult for women to work with each other,
and this is where this situation came from, and they
say that women are always in competition and it's not
enough community. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, it's what I was sharing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I feel like sometimes us as women, they think it's
about being competitive. They think that just because someone else
is shining, it's going to dim my light, when that's.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Not the truth.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Like, if we allow ourselves to embrace our uniqueness and
our individuality, we will encourage other people to embrace theirs.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Have you had the issue? I want to ask that
you know, I've.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Never been a jealous girl, Like it's just not how
I've been. Like, I've never been like a girl where
I'm like mad at somebody else's I mean, look at me.
I'm an acting teacher like and most of the women
that I teach, from Mary J. Bloch to Andrew Day
to MICHAELA. Cole to FKA Twigs. I mean, I can
go on and on, like God has placed some readible
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women around me whose lives I got to pour into.
But also they pour into my life just through the
process of working. They encourage me to dream as big
as possible. But I also want to say something about
self love, and that's the thing I feel with some
of us women that may cause us to be you know,
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insecure or jealous, because you know what jealousy does, It
creates division and separation.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Right. But I feel like the lack of.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Self love sometimes could calls could create you know, the
way that we.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Go out in the world.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And if we don't have self love, then I might
be insecure around her or insecure around another person. But
if we embrace our self love, you know, we will
allow everybody to be. We will grant people out of love, right,
the permission to be who they are. Like I told
my girls today, I said, y'all, bitches better get cute.
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Today I'm not even playing. I say, y'all, bitch is
better get cute. My sister Bernicia, she came around me
the other day to do the first day she got
here to do my makeup. When I tell you, she
was covered up, like she literally covered up her entire body.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I was like, no, she was.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
She thought I would be insecure of her being a
bad bitch because sometimes you know what I'm saying, like
going around, like if you come and do some women,
if you have insecurity and you see this this ass
and this little waist in these titties and this fine
girl walking in you'll be like, I'm uncomfortable, but no,
I actually love for my girls to be beautiful. I
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love bad bitches only around me. Okay, I just love it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I love it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
But we just had to yes, right right.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
But I just think lack of self love, you know,
and us not allowing ourselves to embrace our individuality and
our uniqueness. And the more that embrace that for ourselves,
the more we can allow others to do that. Like
I love like when I think about Taraji, when I
think about Angela Bassett, when I think about Janet Jackson,
when I think about Naomi Campbell, and these are all
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my friends. I can't be insecure with bad bitches like
that in my life. I'm sorry because they're all incredible.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I saw you at your sisterhood around Oh my god,
and it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
We got a chance to celebrate me and my sister's
birthday together, and then niece's birthday was the.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Next week and we went and celebrated her birthday. It
was like we were all team Black women on steroids.
It was just awesome. It was awesome.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
I think one of the biggest things that I learned
from this past two weeks, like with everything that was happening,
is like how much we were paying attention because there
were so many people that reached out even in private
and did what you just said, like hey, like I
want to talk to you, I want to talk to
y'all whatever, And I think it's like it was crazy
when it was happening, but now like taking a step
out of all of it, I'm like people are getting
to realize that, like sisterhood sometimes can look like we
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might have misunderstandings and we got we we have to
talk about it.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
We got to figure that out.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
What has that been like for you in your career,
because we don't hear a lot of y'all stories. If
there were misunderstandings between you and any of the other girls, and.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Best believe it be a lot of misunderstanding. You know
what I'm saying, It'd be a lot of misunderstandings.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It be a lot of that, like.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Seriously and physically.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
But see that's why I like and I'm from Camden,
so it's some people I listen because I always say
as nice as I am, as as nice as I'm
not right, you know what I mean? And it's some
energy I know, I just don't flow with I just
don't because if it's that kind of energy that's coming in.
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I'm not a mean girl. I don't like mean girls.
I don't like it. I don't like seeing women treating
each other poorly or badly. It makes me sick. But
I'll tell you one thing about me. I have never
ran from a fight like one. I'm not afraid of,
you know, confronting confrontation, having hard conversations, and most people
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they will throw rocks and.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Then hide their hands. I don't like that. I don't
do that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I'm about that life of having conversations, confronting the situation.
Let's sit down and let's talk, and let's deal with
the discomfort of whatever it is you're feeling. But most
of the time, y'all, most people don't want to ever
really sit down and talk because they don't want to
have to be able to acknowledge what it is that
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they're internally going through, like whatever their internal struggle is.
It's easy for people to run and act like they're
a victim.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
But if people really.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Confronted things and had honest conversations, they would realize that
most of the pettiness is not because of something external,
but it's because of your own individual internal struggle, and
that's what's creating the external problem.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
It starts within you. Period.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
How do you deal with the noise?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Because I think even with them to go out of
their situation, but it was the noise.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Was it the interior outside people?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Can I tell you, oh my god, I'm getting noise though?
Oh honey, Can I just well, I try to, you know,
I try to.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I'll tell you this about noise.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It's something you ask about noise. Were we talking about noise?
I was just talking to my girls about sometimes it
is so important for us to sit in silence.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Right. Think about when you're.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
On the phone, bro, and it's a lot of noise
going on, what do you do? You'd be like, hold up,
wait a second, let me step away so that I
could hear this call clearly, right, And a lot of times,
especially when you think about all the social media and
all that stuff, we allow ourselves to stay in the
noise and stay listening to the noise when sometimes we
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might have to put the phone down, be silent, don't
listen to anything, because in your silence, that's when you
really hear the still small voice of God on the
inside of you, but you can't hear God. And how
God wants to guide you to deal with the situation
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if you're allowing yourself to constantly listen to the noise.
So the way I deal with noise is I try
to allow myself to get as silent as possible.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
You feel me absolutely hundred Have you ever had to
get lied with a person? And what does that sound like, Tasha?
Because I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
So from Canada, But doesn't she already loud? So what
just getting loud?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I put into you like this. I'm a passionate human.
I'm a passionate human.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Bruh.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
And as loud.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
As my goodness is, I put to you like this.
One time I cust somebody out really bad and I
went to my pastor and I was like, oh my god,
I feel so bad. And she said to me, sometimes
you gotta meet the enemy's aggression.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
That the Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
But the violence take it by force, and sometimes some
people need to get checked. So when it's time to
get loud, like I said, I don't mind.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
It, boom boom, I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I don't mind it, bro.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I swear my loud can be loud, and honestly, when
I get loud, people get traumatized. I mean, I'm serious,
Like you know when I said folks that throw rocks
and then hide their hands, like I've had situations like
that and when I've had to check people like that,
then they want to go run in the corner and.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Cry back like that. I'm like, don't cry, big bad bitch.
Don't do it, big bitch, big man. Okay, Like, don't cry.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Don't cry now boo okay. And sometimes it's what yours.
It's the seed that's that you're reaping.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Period. You know what the Bible.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Say, whatsoever a man show it that he show also
reap and sometimes you know they reap that ass kicking.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I'm just saying that a Chappelle Chane. Yes, we were
actually talking about that earlier.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Y'ah.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
This was a gift from my brother Dave. I love
him so much. He wanted me to he was happy
for me doing the show, he was happy for a
lot of the things that's been happening in my life.
And and this was a gift that he gifted me.
And it's not many people that have a Chappelle chain,
and I don't know, do y'all know, Like I've known
Chappelle for like thirty years, like we started, y'all know,
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I used to be a stand up comic, right, Yeah,
so I was a stand up comic. Dave was like
he was literally a mentor at like eighteen.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
When Dave was eighteen nineteen years old, he was I
call my big little brother, you know, and he helped
me out so much like you know some of those people.
And I should have thought it Dave, Becausezabe was one
of those people that always encouraged me, inspired me every
time anything was happening in my life. I can't tell
you how many times I've gotten calls about I'm proud
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of you.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Keep going, keep dreaming.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
He's such a motivator and he's been such a blessing
in my life. I cannot tell you. So, Yes, this
is a Chappelle chano.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I love that because you know, we live in an
era where people don't like to represent folks who have
assisted them or provided them opportunity, or helped him.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And I don't understand that.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I don't understand resenting somebody that has helped you in
somewhere like you should rep them exactly.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I'm with you on that, Yeah, Rep and Dave.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Now you got a lot going on. I know she
got to go fast.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Yes, I love that show.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Yes, But in the newer season, season two, you have
like now we're learning more about your character and kind
of like you have your own storyline and things of
that nature. I know what was the decision to do
that because it wasn't like that in previous seasons. Fully,
like we knew a little bit about what you had
going on, but not as much focus.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, I mean, I thank god for the writing team
that they like focus more on her relationship. And you
know my character, I play a queer woman, right and
I you know, I've never.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Been a queer woman before.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Okay, I'm just saying, like I legit ain't ever been
with a woman before, Like okay, like for real research, Well,
I asked, look, coach me. The acting teacher I worked
with was a guy named Carl Ford, who I love deeply.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Okay, Susan Batson's son.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I don't know if you guys know Susan, but but anyway,
so Jerry Johnson, I'll tell y'all this I directed Harlem,
and I directed some beautiful scenes with Jerry and Gail
bean right, and I was just obsessed, Like I knew
that survival was coming up, and I was just really
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pouring into them as a director. But while I was
pouring into them, I promise you, I was dreaming. I
was like saying, God, please bless me with someone like
these two women, Like the way that they were, and
as supportive as they were. As Gail and Jerry were
with one another, I wanted to experience that as an actor.
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So when it was time to see who my love
interest was, Jerry was up for the job. So Jerry
and I, I said, Jerry, we're gonna get together because
what I saw you do with Gail, I really want
you to do this part.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
So she and I.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Got together and we rehearse Michelle didn't notice.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Nobody knew this.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
We were rehearsing before her screen test, okay, so that
by the time we did our screen test together, our
chemistry was incredible. And I said to her, because she's
a queer woman, I said, I need you to teach
me everything. So the first thing she taught me when
we were filming our love scene was how two women
had sex because when they said it's top of y'all
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to have sex, bro, I opened up.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
All right.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Trying to Lake.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
I was like, how does this happen?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
And she was like you really ain't never had one.
And then she went was like we do it like Dan, you.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Know, the little scissors.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And so I was like, thank god you was here
because I didn't want to look stupid.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Sais okay, But it worked out for her because she
got the wrong She got the role and they have
a sex. This is your and this was your first
this is your first time being on camera and a
female female sex.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
We had like the first season.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I had some makeout scenes and stuff like that, but
as far as like having like a full bless second, yeah,
that was my first time. But I gotta tell you,
working with Jerry, it was just like easy and it
was just it was fun and it was wonderful and
she was just wonderful.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
That is my sister for life. Jerry.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I'm giving you a shout out. I love you sis
all the time. Now, you know, i'd be like, stop.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You call it a dry run.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
We didn't.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
We were rehearsing that particular, like we didn't do that
in rehearsal, Like, but that was when.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
We were actually filming the sex scene.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Would you give a woman to try it's.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Okay for him to ask me that. I'm gonna just
keep it one hundred y'all. Like I'm like a gay man.
I'm like a gay man.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
What do gay men like?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Did? I mean?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I'm not even lying, bro, I am like the gayest
man in the world.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
Like I am a straight up bass man, like I
love like I just love it too much, Like I'm
not even playing and I mean literally, I mean, and
even if I'm out, if I'm messing with, why are.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Y'all so stupid?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
You started it at me?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Wait? Let me just tell y'all this all right, I'm
about to say, So that's like a little all right.
So I'm like, when a man goes down on you,
it's great. I love it, but i'd be like, I'm
not a lesbian, so we gotta.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Follow this motherfucker bag.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
You know what I'm saying with some penis, Like I
just you know, it's just what I like.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Because I've heard people say that women do it better
on women because they know what the woman wants. But
I be thinking, like after that it's like, now it's
like you you know, want coming out.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
It's that's like having a salad but you can't get
the steak. You know what I'm saying, that's just me
or no dressing and okay, but you know what to
I'll just.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Say this is all I always think about that.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Remember how I'll be having.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
The conversation with studs and I'm like, so, y'all be
sucking this, Like imagine having the scrapp on on and
a woman is sucking it and then the person with
the scrap on is moaning that.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
But if that's what you're into, maybe if it feels you.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
But I be thinking about like girls who are trying
it for the first time or like you know they're by.
It's like, so if you're by, you know, like you're
not like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Let me tell y'all this.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I think it's all about preference, Like it's all about
what you eat.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Like I don't no way.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
But you know how there's some foods like some people
like chocolate cake, some people like vanilla cakes, some people
fish right, and some people like fish.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Some people like.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Steak, right, I mean, and for me, I just like
what I like and just like, you can't like turn
a gay man that likes.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
What he likes to have a woman, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
You can't turn a straight woman to one something else.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I mean, I just like what I like.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But I love you know what I'm saying, Like, go
get yours?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And what about desiree in a temptation store?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Oh? Wow, you guys. I'm so excited about that. It's
funny because I was showing Monique the trailer. You girls,
I do do? They are girls? Okay, like seriously, but
I was.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I was showing Monique, I was showing you and Bernicia
last night. I was like, y'all want to see the trailer,
you know. And when Monique saw it, she was like,
I've never seen you in a role like that.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
And so all these like years of being in this industry,
I've never gotten a chance to play that role. So
shout out to Derek Williams, my producer. I got a
chance to produce it with him, and he gave me
that script and I was so happy he gave it
to me, and I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
It's it's a thriller. It's like fun It's like.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And I feel like it helped me tap into things
that I've never gotten a chance to really reveal on camera.
I feel like I'm still I feel like I'm just
starting acting.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
All over again.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
You have a refreshing energy all the time.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
But I do feel it like you're in a different
season or something about you right now.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
I don't know what it is, but it's there.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I think it's my self love season says I love
that for you. You hear me, I love that for you? Now?
You know?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
He need to reach out to who saying you praise?
It's on Shannon shap Charlamage messages with him all the time.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Oh God, I love Do you know how much I
love you? And Donelle?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Would y'all be doing that little stuff?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Will he be doing those?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I mean sometimes I be text him saying, leave my
brother alone time.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
He needs you. He needs your coaching. I just want
done Know to have more confidence like Donella is dope.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
He's incredible, And y'all remember I put him on BMF
Like I swear, I think he is so talented.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I cannot wait to work with him again. I swear
to God like he is so interesting, he is so funny.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That's a good example, as far as like allowing your
uniqueness to shine. Like when I think about Dave and Donelle,
and I remember I had a conversation with Dave and
it was I'm rephrasing it, but I was like, you know,
what makes you work with him? Dave's like, I get
sharper when I when I have to follow someone good,
Like he's not always looking for comics that are not good.
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He looks for comics that are great. That's what challenges
him to be great. You know what I'm saying. So
greatness around us, it helps stretches us, you know. And Donelle,
I love you so much. I love you so much.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
He's somebody who needs to silence the noise in his head.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
He gotta calm down. But he I talk to you.
I'm gonna talk to you, tie, you gonna be all right? Right.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I want to ask you something as an acting coach,
like when you have already great talent, right, because I
don't know how often the great talent seeks acting coaches
for every role. I don't know if that's the thing,
like this, did Zelle seek an acting coach for every role?
I Jonathan Major seeker acting coach for every row?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I don't know, well, I mean I put it to
you like this.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I don't know individually all the way with as far
as how their process is. But it's a lot of
us actors that enjoy the collaborative process because it's almost
like you want to work with someone that can maybe
see things that you can't see, you know what I'm saying.
And the process of acting and the process of like
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researching a character and developing a character, it's a fun
process to do with a great coach or teacher. Just
because Michael Jordan was a great athlete, it didn't mean
that he did not need a great coach. Most of
our greatest artists have great coaches, most of them, that's right,
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most of them.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
So when you have a great actor, you just teach
them how to capture that role, not necessarily how to act.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
No, it's not about teaching them how to act. It's
about us together looking for like all that we can
find within the characters.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Is it like redoing the fundamental.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
It's not in every For me.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I'll just say this as a teacher, every process is different.
Like it's it's a very spiritual experience. You know, you
have your fundamentals, like your you know, baseline, right, Like
I come from Ivani Chabbik school, So we have something
called the twelve steps that we do.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
You know, we have like a base.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
What is your overall objective you're seen objective, your inner monologue,
your inner thoughts, your substitutions, your it's certain things that
we are looking for within it. But outside of that baseline,
there are other things that come up. Character research, physicality,
you know what I'm saying, like all kinds of stuff.
So each person is different based on each character is different,
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each process is different, and it's like all of it
is like an incredible like spiritual experience. And I always say,
as much as you need the character, the character needs you,
and everything is on the inside of us, like all
of it is in there. We just got to look
for it and find it. And as a coach, I
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just sometimes it's pushing people to trust their instincts more.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
It could be as simple.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
As that, you know what I mean, And but we
discover so many things through the process of acting. Absolutely,
I don't want to go to with y'all all day,
Like seriously, okay.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Why did I get married again?
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Where are we honey again?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I'm gonna just leave it right there, girl, I am
not talking.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
About that because it's not happening.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Probably not, and it ain't because I'm busy tyler to
take what three days to do a movie?
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Who ain't got a week I mean, who ain't got
a weekend?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
All right, do not get me started.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You want to do it?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Of course I.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Want to do it.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Why do you troll us like that?
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Why he trolled me like that?
Speaker 7 (33:14):
So no, cause no, nothing has happened.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I refuse to answer any more questions concerning that, okay,
because I might get loud.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
We've been having all these conversations about community. Do you
think community is earned or a right?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I feel like it's earned, like I was.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I remember I had one girl say I don't have
any friends, and you know, I go back. I always
go back to scripture. I'm like a cussin breacher. No
let me stop. But you know it's like, if you
want a friend, you got to show yourself friendly. How
do you create relationship? How do you create friendship? You
have to first allow yourself to give friendship in order
to get friendship.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
And to me, like when.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I look at like like acting, or when I look
at you know, just people what makes you really valuable.
It's not just about your own greatness, but to me,
your value becomes the based on how you're able to
change other people's lives.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
To me, that's what makes you valuable.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Like if I can empower somebody else to pursue their purpose,
to make money to feed their family, I just lifted
up myself. But not only with that, I've also created community.
I love my acting school Tea Saw, because you know,
for me, I'm always like what I say to you
and everybody else as far as like we're not in competition,
(34:38):
we're in community, Like we are all here together. The
brighter we all are individually, the brighter we are in unity,
Like let's go. But I love Tea Saw because the
people that were in class like fifteen twenty years ago
at my school, I look at their lives now and
they are all best friends today. Like when I think
about Tabitha Brown who came out of my school, Natari Spencer,
(35:02):
who's like now feast of Williams, Chastity Saunders. I mean,
I can go on aiming Joseph Lance Gross, I mean,
Tiffany Hadish, But every time we're all in a room together,
everybody's like, oh, come on, y'all, it's the family. It's
like community. But I feel like we earn that by
how we love each other period. You just casually throughout Sordo.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
When you move to l A, they're like, we don't
care if you want to act or not. If you're
trying to be anywhere in front of people, you need
to go to Tasha Smith's class. Like that's how I
found out. It was like, this is the thing you do.
Do do one church and Tisa, that's what you do
as a black creative in la But you have it's
so many people and you're just like, you.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Know what we call TESA. We call it the Church
of Acting.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
And I remember one time at class right I had
left out because I had to go save Cidra and
in at Martin, So I was not in class this
particular night, but mister Denzel Washington had decided to come
and visit class and I wasn't there. I was pissed,
(36:13):
but he came to class and from what the teacher
and the students told me that he was sitting in
the back of the class with a hat on.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Nobody knew who he was.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
And in my school, I had just pictures of like
every incredible artist I could think of on the walls
because I wanted when people came into the class, I
wanted them to look at the walls and dream like.
I wanted them to see where their life could be,
what they could possibly do. And so Kevin, the teacher
at the time, he was like talking about that in
(36:43):
the class, and then all of a sudden they heard
someone say in the back, I better be up on
that wall, and then all the students turned around and
it was Denzel Washington.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Can you believe that?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
And Denzel's the one that told Mary J. Blige that
she should come and study with me. But he ended
up staying in that class, and he ended up teaching
that class for like until like probably went two hours
over and it was like so incredible.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
I don't even know how I got on that story.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
It was something that was being said, but that was
just such a blessing, like to have him there inspiring
all the students, and just any opportunity that, you know,
we get to pour into other actors in order for
them to go and pursue their dreams. Like I see
so many of my students that are so wealthy and thriving.
(37:32):
Some of them have better careers than me. I've never
been nominated for an Oscar, you know what I mean,
that's never happened, but I love seeing it happen for Andrew.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Day from Mary J. Blige and hopefully Michayla Cole and
FKA Twigs.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
But they do kickbas coming up like what do you
mean just this money? Tasha his just call you know what?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
The only now this is sad. Okay, this is sad,
but not Look, I don't look for kickbacks.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
I put it to you like this.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Like my production my production company is called Camden Bridge
because there was a time I was teaching, teaching, teaching,
and I got a little angry because I felt like
people were walking over me all the time. And I
remember I heard inside in my spirit that it's okay
to be a bridge.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
That it's okay. A bridge has purpose.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Right, Sometimes it gets walked over, sometimes it gets driven over,
but it's a connector of people. And be focused and
be a blessing at being a bridge. So my production
company's name is Camden Bridge.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Okay, be a bridge. What were we saying? I mean,
am I getting old? Okay?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
So all right, I have to just be okay with
being a bridge, so I don't I don't get it
for kickback. But the one person, actually it's a shame.
I'm not trying to shame nobody. But the one person
that gave me a very big gift was Rebel Wilson.
I remember one day Rebel Wilson had the white girl
(39:05):
I know, but no, but Twigs actually gave me this
big crystal for Christmas last year, this.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Big beautiful like she said, she said.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Here's a little sparkle that you give to the world.
And it was like the biggest, most beautiful crystal. And look,
both of them are British and Rebel one day she
hit me up and said, uh, you have a delivery coming,
make sure you're home.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
And it was just this huge, gorgeous ys l bag.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Okay, I mean it was just big, just a huge one.
So I know she spends the money on that period.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Okay, ok you know she got to go. But we appreciate,
we appreciate, Thank you so much, wors Jess.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Just I thought she was trying to hang on, but
you okay, well we love you, Jess, I miss you,
all right, I love you, guys.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
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