September 5, 2025 • 45 mins
Today on The Breakfast Club, Taye Diggs, J Carter & Troy Brookins Talk Production Partnership, Hollywood Vs. Influencers. Listen For More!
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It's the j n V.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Law La Rosa is here as well, and we got
some special guests in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yes, indeed, you got the brother t Diggs. Is this
your first time here? None, I've been here, haven't been
in a minute. It's long. I've been a long time.
I've been here before. I'm a black man, Okay, couple time, yeah, yeah,
after you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It was a long time ago, all right, Jay Carter
and Troy Brookings welcome fellas.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, feeling good, feeling good, happy to be here.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
What what do we owes threesome.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We're promoting this new lou chocolate.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Chocolate, some new loub But that's right, goes in, easy,
comes out, smooth my work.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yes, we're a producer team.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Newly formed and you know, kind of happened organically where
we started to produce content as we cast a Troy
and I and uh, you know the natural kind of
progression of it. You know what, Let's let's let's three
black men. Let's let's go and own this ourselves. Let's
build a table, let's build a couple of seats. So yeah,
that's what we on this occasion, also to promote the
new movie Nice that.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I feel like that's the that's not that's the only
way in Hollywood now, like to form your own production
company and shoot your own stuff. I mean tell you
probably know better than most of them.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
I mean it's like, I mean, obviously there's the way
things have been done. But if you want to guarantee
anything at this point, you you've got to do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Because there's no shame these days.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
People will lie right to your face and there's no
code and for someone like me. I just got frustrated
because I like to play by the rules, but when
the people on my own team are not playing by
the rules but then breaking and I'm watching them break them.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But let's do this ourselves.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
And right now, with social media and everything, it's proof that,
like people are taking control absolutely and.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I love that.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
How did you three come together?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
How did this happen?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I can I can take that if you want, sure.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
So, uh we had a movie. Uh so, I'm a
part of Freely Films. It's me Tonya right, my wife Lashawn,
she's a partner in business and in life. We have
a production company and so we were producing this movie
called The Comeback a couple.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Of years ago, and actually we cast the lead.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Female in the role. And this this is how you know,
things just happen and you got to embrace that opportunity,
right right, Yeah, the universe just happened. So the agent
for the female called me. The female lead called me
and said, hey, have you cast the male lead yet?
And I'm just bopping around. I'm like, nah, we haven't
cast it. We've got a few people we're talking to you, right,
And she was like, well, Tate Diggs is seeing the script?
(03:43):
Would you be interested in Tate Diggs? Now that was
the most obvious, you know, But but here's the thing
about it, like and this is this is how you
can block your blessings. I tried to talk her out
of it because I wasn't ready.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I didn't think I was ready.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
And we think we're doing the right thing because we
think it's humility.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
But we're getting in our own wedding in our own way.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
And so she talked me into it. She was like, Jay, no,
this is happening, Embrace it, run with it. And so
that was a couple of years ago. He came into Atlanta,
where I'm based, shot it. I'm hugely successful on Peacock
as well, and uh Rest is history. So we've been
collaborating ever since.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I'm interested in that because if you write a script,
you know it's great.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
At least I would think you would know it's great.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Why wouldn't you expect anybody to read it and want
to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, that's that's the crazy thing about the business.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Like what you said makes sense, Yeah, as it is
now makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It makes no sense.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Like if you knew the movies that got turned down,
and if you saw the stars that were in those
movies and what you'd be like, what, there's no rhyme
or read like egos. I mean, it's it's really frustrating
because you're you're you're raised to think that everything happens
for a reason. Like I knew I was talented. I
(05:01):
knew I would I got into school. When I got
into school, I was like, Okay, black people, the business
is going to need black people. I'm gonna move to
New York. I can do stage or screen. That happened,
and then I got movie after movie, and then all
of a sudden, the rules changed. Wait, who are the influencers?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Who is it?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
Wait, he got the part over but he doesn't have
any experience, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
He's got followers. What are followers?
Speaker 7 (05:30):
It's his videos videos? Who is anybody paint? No, he
just put on videos and because he got all so
it's like, you gotta adjust, Then let me do.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I can't swear. Let's do this ourselves.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
And we'll play by their rules. But at least will
I won't have the excuse.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I can't complain. Now I'm gonna play it by your rules,
but we're gonna do it our way.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Doesn't bother you when somebody doesn't put in an amount
of time that you did, doesn't go to the school,
doesn't do the things that you did, and then because
of followers, because of social media, because of a funny
skit might get the part over you.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Does that bother you at all?
Speaker 7 (06:12):
I mean, if there's talent there, then it's cool, you
know what I mean? For me, I just didn't. It
didn't make sense. I didn't care who was doing what,
but good for you. Whatever they were doing was working,
and I was like, good for you. But I don't
know what to do right now?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Andy would come in here and show me that video.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
I'm not That's why it's this worked for me? All right, Well,
I'll just be funny and not even I don't even.
I don't even realize that people are watching. I would
just like express myself and if it worked, okay, I
don't know what's happening, but they say post, I still
have to ask him.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I don't like, how do I double the well? How
do I take this and copy? You know? Well?
Speaker 9 (06:58):
We love t Diggs on Instagram and I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I apologize because that's you never.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Saw you like the post?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I never saw when he liked the post.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
He loves your post. I don't even know.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
I don't even know he put know how to read
this response.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Just about today, it's like, yeah, but you do realize.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I mean, that's interesting to see to hear somebody like
Tate Diggs feel like they had to do that.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
How do you think I feel? How do you think
I feel? Right? That's totally good. You you know what
I mean?
Speaker 7 (07:41):
In this movie, you want Joe who's never acted in
his life, and I can't. It's not even I can't
get an audition. I'm not even a part of the conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That crazy.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
So I was like, I don't I don't hate that dude,
but somebody tell me what's going on with these rules?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Because I've worked really hard and I like to buy
a lot of nice Really, you know what I'm saying,
how are we going to do this? Somebody just explained
it to me, But for a minute, I was.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Like I was I It was pushed back and people
like to argue, well I did this, Well.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It doesn't matter. Nobody cares it.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
Seems like the formula is now that a lot of
influencers are being casted because they can push the movie easier.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Right, But what.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
But what happened because at first we didn't need that,
nobody needed that.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
So budgets are smaller.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Budgets are smaller, and so when you have an influencer
as five million followers, that is free marketing. And so
the studio doesn't have to come up with a you know,
one million dollar marketing budget because they have just right now,
we'll use just as a case study, right, because I
cast just in the.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Movie that I Hate I Love You, I Love You.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Super super successful and now it's on to be the
number one drama on too be Love That excellent. But
you know, we we we we saw obviously just as followers,
and we said, you know, built in marketing, right, she
could posed, it's going to be great.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
But then I watched her actual acting work.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
She was great.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
That that was the That was the clincher, you know,
seeing her and I got a story to tell it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Every morning for us.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It worked.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, it worked like okay, cool, well let me get
on this boat.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
So INA's example, if you can marry the social media
prowess and the following with the talent, like Jess is
married to those two things.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You got the winner. You have today today.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
To figure out how to make it worse cut.
Speaker 9 (09:56):
Yeah, I never knew that.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
So Hollywood have an evolved in in terms of the
opportunities available to black actors since you, since you first started.
It feels like at first I was thinking the barriers
are just dressed differently, But now it feels like they
don't even want you.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
General until we prove it, you know what I'm saying.
Like right now, we're at a time where they don't
have control.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Like all that stuff that you said. Soon everybody's gonna
be talking like that, and that's not a student. Studio
can't take credit.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
And that's what I love. We're doing it ourselves and
no one can stop.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Us, and it's succeeding.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
I still don't get it. Yeah, it was too good
to be true because I was raised.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You got to be let in.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
You can apologize, you know, be really grateful and talk
to this meeting, go to this you know, crazy restaurant
and meet with these studio hat.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
That's not how it goes down.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
A bunch of non people that I've never heard of
doing funny stuff host again and then get it.
Speaker 9 (11:00):
Hey, so it's the positives and the negatives of it.
So you you so it's bittersweet for you.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Huh, Well it's now it's sweet because we're taking control.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So I have no I can complain, but we now
there's no excuse. That's why we're here. Let's get on board.
Let's get it doing that.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
That's gonna be the most interesting thing when you as
a production company, y'all take all the risks, put up
the money, shoot it. You know it's good, But then
the studio is still like, eh, well that we know
something else.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But that's what he said earlier.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He said, all these black stars in these movies and
nobody's picking them up.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And what we were talking about, there's no risk.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, it's never I mean, he's.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
A little bit of money.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
You got to get somebody with a huge mansion, get
actors that just want to be seen.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
That's what It's almost too good to be.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
True if it's a story that people like people are
going to show up, And that's when I can give
my finger to the studios period and be like, you
don't need brad pet you don't need to you.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Know, we made up our own story.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Yeah, our own people that you don't know. But our
people are going to show up and watch them, which
isn't supposed to happen.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Absolutely, so let's hear it for black people. But let
me ask your question, does ever bother you?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Know?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
You have major releases that instead of the major releases
now to b or Peacock or something that you know,
the masters might not have seen like they've seen one
of your other movies, were the theater, it's global.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's national, it's this. Does that bother you at all?
Because you like to stay positive, don't challenging questions.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I believe you meet your audience where they are, you know,
And so if they're on Peacock, we'll meet you there.
If they're on TV, we'll meet you there. If they're
in theaters, we'll meet you there. But we're going to
meet you where you are, as opposed to expect expecting
you to come to where we are, like, yeah, we're
gonna and and the you know, the magic about what
we're doing is you know, Tay obviously international superstar.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Right mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Humility speaking humbly speaking, international super walks in the door
commands a certain level of you know, respecting people. Okay,
we're gonna listen, right, Absolutely, I've got the funding, I've got.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
The distribution on projects.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't know if you've heard who Clarence Avon is.
This is the young clars He is the grand connected.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
If he showed you who he has in his content,
your mind will be blown.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And so if we ever got a home of whoever set.
Speaker 10 (13:33):
Yeah, so so we we we make this this combination
of you know, the business side is taken care of
the content, talent side is taken care of the connection
and being able to reach certain talent, and Troy is
taken care of.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
An example, like.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Troy started out as like my assistant, right, so he
he's like the last person that people want to include
in all these meetings.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Like, I need to meet with subject. Had nobody told me?
Nobody sees me nobody hmmm. Cut to a few years
discussions and him being working with me. He sees he
knows how people are moving. So he's like, oh, this
person said that they were here, but they never they
never really committed and they blamed me. But this person
(14:28):
said that you were supposed to get there, and I
saw the I saw that you didn't get paid that much.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So now he is like working for us. Who would
have known. Now he's a major producer, you know, and now.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Like I can't, I can't move without him. But they're
not that, they're not a part of that business plan.
He's the assistant Watts give him two years.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I love that.
Speaker 11 (14:55):
Yeah, what's that experience been like for you now? Because
I mean it said.
Speaker 12 (15:00):
Yeah, it's been It's been a ride for real. I
mean we I used to play football. I used to
play professional football. That was like my first goal. My
dream was all about football. That's all I knew. And
God humbly blessed me with the opportunity to play All
American And that's where me and him met. And so
when we met, you know, everybody, you know, low key
(15:21):
gravitated towards me because I would train them and teach
them how to run a route or you know, do
everything that I used to do.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Play football together.
Speaker 13 (15:30):
No, no, right away, pretend.
Speaker 12 (15:44):
I love it, but yeah, no, we met. We met
there and then you know, one day we just we
kicked through. We grabbed some lunch at soho and he
was like, yo, you want to be my assistant and
I'm like, bro, I never, Yeah, I've never done it.
And then and you know, we just took the ball
wrong and we started at two days and I'm like, dog,
(16:05):
these emails is crazy. I can't just to days like
knowing me how I you know, put my time in.
I'm like, I can't do two days. We got to
lock in all the way and you know, seven seven
years now rolling.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
And it was always Troy is great, like from the
cool people, yeah, oh he's great, And I kept on
hearing that. Now we're making business deals with those people.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, with him, and the people that didn't see.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Him are now like, where are you het?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I love that too.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
You know I've heard you speak to you about issues
of identity and acceptance right, and it feels like this
is another layer of that. Like in regards to Hollywood,
like you maybe questioning who did you.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Have a question who you were?
Speaker 7 (16:54):
Well, they want you to like I never, That's what
didn't make sense. I've always on who I am, but
why don't you know? How come it's not so? Then
I had to move to a place where we were
all on the same page, which is like, you know,
a good lesson in identity.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You can't let anybody else dictate that.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
I know who I am. You know who I am.
And now we're all in business. Why because we know
each other. They don't know us.
Speaker 12 (17:22):
Like, somebody can't come to me and be like, yo,
taste said this, and I'll be like, no, I already know.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I already know what's up.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 12 (17:28):
But people will try that.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
So in Hollywood, what is it is?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Is it ability? Is it your box office?
Speaker 7 (17:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
But like what is it?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Oh right now? Nobody like we're about to make what
it is? Nobody knows what it is now?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, that's why it's a great time. Yeah, nobody knows.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
You see a movie coming out in the theaters, then
you're watching it on the Nobody knows what's and they're
always pretending like they do.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
This is a sure thing and we're on it, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Another man's wife, that is the name of him? Okay,
who had what to do? Because that already that I
already want to know.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Another man's wife?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Who who wrote that?
Speaker 9 (18:10):
Whose idea was it?
Speaker 5 (18:12):
What's happening?
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Yes, So shout out to Maverick Entertainment, and you gotta
have allies, right like.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We we we can do what we can do.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
But you know, we know who's still run in Hollywood, right,
so and you have to have those allies. And so
Maverick Entertainment, Doug Kelsey, Erica huge allies.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
You know, they finance our work, they distribute our work.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
So they said, you know what, Jake Carter, why don't
you come up with an idea based on this premise?
And so I brought in the writer by the name
of Brion the Cole, who said, uh, yeah, I think
I can tackle that. And you know, it was a
like the story, it just it just puts you in
the choke hold, you know. And it's it's about a
young couple who are struggling backs up against the wall,
(19:00):
losing their losing their house, losing their car. Uh husband
lost his job and then to make matters words yeah truly.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah yeah, but you know the world is just banging
on them.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Right then the husband finds out his mom has a
serious illness and she could die, and the the the
medical treatment that she needs and covered by insurance. So
they're drowning in debt and just financial issues.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
So Tay's character.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Comes along and he throws them a life raft and
he said, for two million dollars, I can change your life.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But he looks at the wife.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
And he says, the only thing I want to return
is one weekend with you. Now, it's one weekend that
this this husband is going to give up his wife for.
Can save his mother, can save his job, could save
his car, could save his house, could save his marriage.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
But at what costs? So the question that we always
ask people, you know, and I ask you, just Envy Charlottagelaw,
what would you do.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Two million dollars to save your mom, to save your house,
to save your car.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Jesus, all you got to give up one weekend your wife.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I ain't giving up my wife though, But chance happened.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
There's a chance that nothing happens.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
They can.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
They can watch your wife. She all she has to
do is go.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I know, looking at my wife, I know nothing will happen.
But it's just the fact of pain from the guy.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I won't say nothing happened. What if it's Maxwell. Don't
your wife love Max?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Definitely? Not definitely, But it's the premise of pain.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, yeah, it just it seems like belittally.
Speaker 12 (20:46):
And the therapy that you would need after it. That's right,
you know what I mean, because you're not that's a
mental thing after after that, because she made you know
you even though you feel like nothing happened, you never know.
Speaker 11 (20:56):
You never know, doesn't go though, and all this stuff
does happened. You lose a lot of stuff on the
back end, so then you still need Then you're going,
I mean, I got you talking about my mom here,
like you're saying that, like I would lose my mom.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You don't.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Think about fifteen years of Runway's sixty's young six.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Is not what you do?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Oh yeah, two million?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
There you're going, we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
What happened with them?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You heard?
Speaker 9 (21:36):
I'm going, what do we lose that we lose our mom.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
Mom, your house?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
What else?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Your marriage? Everything crumbles?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Not necessarily it depends on you if you lose the marriage.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I need to see the nuance, Like do I know
who the guy is? We have a background on him
that we know.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
You know he's meant to me? Well, you know what
I mean, he's all above levels, Like this is me,
this is what's going on. I want you to meet me,
and there's no manipulation. Everything, there's a contract.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
More's chestnuts. Why can't I the sequel.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
The way, I'm just saying, I'm going what you doing?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I'm just trying do nothing.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I'm just saying, why can't I Why can't I go?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Why did they have to be on?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
The guy not gay? Like this?
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
That it's not that say I was gay?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I just said why can't I go? But that's what
a man does, right when you when you when it's
a job that.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You don't want your woman to do it.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
But the guy is like, I don't know, I don't
like dudes. I don't want your wife.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I'm asking for your wife type of arrange.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
He said, why can't I go? Let me do what
you want to do. You said, the guy's not Diddy,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Even like Jay looked at me and said, I want
your wife, magga one.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
But but you see the conversation that it sparks, right,
and so that's what we're that, that's what we're banking
on is you know people sitting on their couch, you know,
the wife cutting her eyes at her husband, the husband
cutting his eyes and his wife like you know, damn,
what would you do?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
What would you do? It is a million? What's your number?
Two million, three million, four million? You know what?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
What?
Speaker 6 (23:24):
What will it cost you in the short term and
what's going to cost you in the long term once
there's a ripple effect in the fallout. So it just
sparks up this really cool dialogue.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
And then all of the relatable issues like that they're
going through even before they get to the point of
you know Tay's character, right, Like a lot of people are.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Going through it.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
The economy that you know, they we're in people's moms
or you know, people's parents period, are getting sick. Insurance
is not covering things that they need. Some people don't
even have insurance because of you know, government issues and
all that type of things. So it's like it's very
relatable until you get to the saving great.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Here because literally insurance and insurance company they are.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
They are here to make money.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
They're not nonprofit, they are a for profit companies. So
they will say this procedure, this treatment cost too much.
Speaker 11 (24:12):
You had this fire script and you were surprised or
I felt like you weren't ready. When is like I
want to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Like I'm listening to the Congress.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
No, that was that was the comeback. This one I knew, yeah,
this one, this one.
Speaker 12 (24:24):
I was like, hey, he called me and was like, Yo,
let's availability we just go around.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
He was definitely with it because he I.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Mean, he fits that mysterious brooding. You can look at
him and tell he he fits it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
So I'm tremendously talented.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And we as actors, we we forget.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Like I'm doing a show with Wayne Brady and he
was like, hey, man, would you We were thinking about you?
And I was like, oh, I was on your mond.
Like you get caught up in your own world and
if you're in any way grounded, you forget that other
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people see you in a certain way.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Did you ever forget who you were?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Constantly? Constantly? And I gotta be reminded, Like that's something
I gotta work on because sometimes I'll be ashamed too
and people.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
You cold, they know who you are?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Ye wound, No, because I know that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
It's it's it has to do with like being raised
in the church and you know, being taught you need
to be humble, you know, think about others like It's
like what they teach you. If you really want to succeed,
you have to do the exact opposite. You got to
be like a Kanye West. I'm not gonna apologize. I
belong here, Boom, don't don't knock open the door. Those
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are the people that really and that's not.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
How I was raised.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
And I took a lot of pride in like following
the rules, and I still made it through. But I'm like, oh,
I could have been so much more if I like
I remember going on auditions and being like, you know
what this isn't I think I know somebody else who's
better for this part literally, and then feeling proud giving
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a part away, like if it was a hood thing Lauren.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Told me about what was it?
Speaker 12 (26:36):
Uh, I was the one that was was you were
going to do? He did and Matrix was a matrix or.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't know. This is really great for radio though,
really great.
Speaker 11 (26:52):
About the movies we would have recognized that were like
big successes and you.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
I don't know if it went, but I just remember thinking,
you know, I wanted to like do the right thing
instead of like promote myself and then and then and
and sometimes you know that that can be.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It can lead in the wrong direction. And I'm still learning.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
I don't think you can have an act to Kanye West,
because in order to promote yourself, people got to be.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Giving you work, because your work is your calling card.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Like we we we rate Denzel because all of the
times we've seen Denzel and these fantastic girls. You rate
Tom Hanks because all the times you've seen him in
these fantastic growths.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I mean, it's the same reason we ran you.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
But that would be the only thing you could actually
use to stick your chest out.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
But I forget you got classics though, I forget.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Oh man, I've still got a groove bag best man
Brown shut.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You don't forget when you did them. But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
I don't know until somebody comes up to me, and
then the industry like, oh that's it's a fan like
the whole all this time, everyone's telling you to stay grounded,
you know what I mean, And then you take a
person that's like raised in the in the church, and
I'm trying to be humble, and don't you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I don't want to be like this actor.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
I don't want to be like that actor, this person
stepped too far over the line.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And they so then you just like all of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
You kind of forget who what you're worth, trying to
like follow the rules. I'm being a good person, I'm
being humble. Don't you know make sure you look after
the other person. No, that doesn't work. But it took
a minute, and it took a bunch of people, but
to be like, don't you know who you are? And
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at first I'm like, oh, this person, he doesn't get it.
And then you're like, wait, Will Smith, and you look
at all the people that are doing it Kevin Harp
where I was like, oh, these guys are too they're
they're too full of themselves. Look at where they are,
and it's like you have to be in order.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
To I believe that he aumility though, like you save
it for the people who deserve it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, right, you save that humility and that approach for
the people who deserve it, who keep it works for you?
You know, thirty years later I thought it was humility.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
What about other people that that you had, like like
you got closer that you did projects with like a
Morse Chestnut or like friends like do you have like
do they do you have these conversations with them?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Do they like like what's wrong? Like I know more so, well, yes,
all of a sudden, I started seeing him like I
look at him on Instagram.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
That's not it's funny her Instagram up.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
He took charge and I'm like, well, if Mars is
doing because we're both capricorns, yeah, we both play by
the rules.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
We like to work hard. I was like, oh, I said, okay.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Is doing its ain't showing ass.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Now, just be dancing.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
He never shows online his old mask.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Remember about ring I did. I did not say nothing
about that man's as he said, you should be on
while you're talking about.
Speaker 14 (30:15):
Right now, But no, I tell you, I'm serious man.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Brown Sugar is one of my favorite movies ever. Like
that was the first and last hip hop brom com.
I don't know why that didn't open up a whole
new genre, and I always wanted how I did working
on that film change the way you think about like
the connection between music and relationships and just coachure period.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Oh it taught me.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
It taught me, you know what I mean. I didn't
know that, and I was very proud because that was
like something new and innovative and it worked, and I
was like, oh we wow, we are good.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
This is with the music in this okay? All right
black people?
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Like that's when it started to really connect, like we
can do anything we can't. We can do more than
just catch up. We can create this thing with music
that we created and take all the elements of some
of the white movies. But then this it's our story
and awesome.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
What was it about you.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
That made that love story feel so authentic?
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Oh, that's just some kind of I don't know, it's
a chemistry. Like I've been in this business long enough
to know I have I have no idea, but it
just worked. It just worked, and some things you just
I'm very I feel very blessed because for a while
I would hear stories of other just horror stories of
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people that were playing couples and they hated each other, and.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I did not I had no idea what that was like,
you know, I mean I didn't know how lucky. I
didn't know how lucky I was.
Speaker 9 (32:02):
You know, did you hatting me along when she slept chasst.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Man at that moment?
Speaker 9 (32:10):
But it was the right choice and it was a
good acting yo, you did not break, though it was
the right choice.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
You didn't know it was coming, but that's phenomenal. He
did not break. It was written in the script.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
But in a situation like that, you need to have
a stuntman come, and it's supposed to be a fake slapper.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
It's the whole thing. And the stumm man didn't come,
and she just slapped and she she should have.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
But I had just come out of you know, drama school,
and I was like, why didn't rebhears?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And how dare you?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
The director didn't have my back? How many takes that?
Speaker 11 (32:53):
Do you feel like The Best Man Unfinished Business? The
book that Malcolm Delee just did, do you feel like
that should be on TV or like a series versus
the book?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
So you know what, the book that.
Speaker 11 (33:06):
He the recent book he just did, that's supposed to
continue the conversation.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
As an actor, I'll say yes, just because I want
to be in it, but as as I love what
he's doing and that makes perfect sense, and and I
love that it's happening because I love that you can
take the idea that a book about a book, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm very impressed with him.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
We had him up here to think that don't make
no sense to me about the best Man, and I
guess it goes into what we're talking about today. It
broke records on Peacock, right, it was like the most
view series ever on Peacock. Wouldn't common sense say hey,
let's do more of this?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
You said, common sense?
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yes, that's the key, exactly.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
That's the key because you think about who's at the
table making these decisions. Allow those folks at the table,
they don't care about us, They don't you know, we
can do numbers, but we constantly have to prove ourselves over.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
We have to get out. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
You have agents that are turning down jobs that will
make them money.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, but because of their ego. Yep. So it's like, well,
what this you know?
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Yeah, I don't get it, and I'm spending too much
time trying to figure it out. So let's just thank
god there are other people that I can look at.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Oh it's working, well, then let's go.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
It feels very dre leaving Millennium Records. Man, that's how
I feel what I feel like.
Speaker 11 (34:31):
It's literally one of my questions here is like your
character and from Sugar is so you in real life,
everything you're going through now, and then what the music
industry is going through right now.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Too, Except this is like a surefire thing.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Like I'm not I don't feel like I'm taking the risk.
The only reason I'm doing it is because it works.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, I mean this is our third film with Say.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
We had to come back huge hit on Peacock Both
Eyes Open went out to theaters and it was the
number one movie on Stars for four weeks in a row.
And then coming up with another Man's Wife. It's it's
they always slept on the performance.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
They're not waking up now. I'm gonna be a part
of it.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
They can see you camera.
Speaker 11 (35:23):
I would watch it for all of you guys, because
there's so much content out there now, people that are
looking to do it their own way. How do they
get like out of the noise and like actually get
people to respect what they're doing, get people to want
to finance it and not just stay on social forever
or you know what I mean, Like build it where
it's like a business is elevated.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
Honestly, nobody knows. I would say content and quality. That's
not necessarily the case. It's like you got to look
and see what's what's hitting now and jump on that, or.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Take a risk and try something new.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
And you know, the content may vary, right, I mean,
I'm sorry, quality of content may vary. And obviously the
better the quality, the better opportunity you have for it
to get seen and the people to take you seriously.
But the end of the day, it's about a compelling story,
and you have to have a great story. Everything starts
with a great story, and then you have to have
great actors who can deliver that story. If he have
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that formula, nothing still guaranteed. I mean, it's I mean,
to your point, Charlotte, it's it's it's mind boggling how
Malcolm cannot get a season two of It's like mind boggling, right,
But that's what happens, you know, And it's he was
very politically correct, you know, he was very you know, diplomatic, right,
(36:43):
but let me say it was some bullshit that he
that he is not. I mean, he is one of
the greatest writers of our time, one of the greatest
directors of our time. So so that's the lesson learned
is we're gonna tell our compelling stories, but we're gonna
we're gonna control the vehicle, and we're gonna build our
own seats, build our own tables, because if nobody else
is willing to tell our stories, well darn it, will
tell it.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
And if I remember correctly, and I could be wrong, Malcolm,
so forgive me. I thought he kind of you kind
of put the onus on the actors a little bit
because he said, it's just all of y'all are so busy.
You knows so many big stars on that it's hard
to get you all together.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
I mean, that was true. We were all you know,
everybody was blessed to be working. That was a part
of it.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
But I mean how long.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I mean Sanx in the city, they figured out how
to do their business. Friends they figure gets.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Tiring waiting for them to let us in, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Because money makes people figure it out.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
So not even money sometimes because we were making money.
That's what I didn't get. Why do this with this black.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Movie and then they don't have and they don't have
any explanation and they're fine with it. Why do black
movies disappear every once in a while. When was the
last black romantic comedy you saw?
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Jesus?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Oh no, not a comedy.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Another when they were like there was one after another,
they were all making money.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I guess somebody decided to not do them.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
I guess the last one I saw was was it
a comedy?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Though forever?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
It's not a comedy? The joint with Keith that wasn't
a comedy, wasn't.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
No photograph now that wasn't wow. I mean you'd have
to go back to like you can play that game, like, yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
One after another and it was like fun.
Speaker 11 (38:35):
You bring that up a lot, because I feel like
that time movies and television, it just it was you
didn't have to think about it so hard, even so much,
right like, and they gave you a feeling and it
was different.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
It's something happened, and I don't know what happened. And
I like to talk to people like you t because
y'all wore those superstars in the nineties and early two thousands.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Black.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Everything that we talk about wanting in black cinema and
black film, it was there already, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
And it's not like it wasn't doing numbers. The movies
was doing numbers.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Copedy show a different world, the number one, number two
show in the world.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
It's just like what happened?
Speaker 5 (39:05):
That means Hollywood just be like, you know what, we
don't want to make no money with niggas.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Mmm.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
You think about the guy and his name escapes me.
But Love Jones iconic, right, I mean it brings out
in the motion.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
When you hear it.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
That director never had an opportunity to direct another feature again.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
After Love Jones.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Jones?
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Why or did or Witcher?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah never?
Speaker 6 (39:27):
You know, but other other directors can fail two, three,
four times and still get a budget. You know, they
they felt Love Jones didn't make enough money, so he
never got an opportunity. But look at the look at
the social impact it had on our culture. Matter never
directed another feature? So what projects allow y'all to scratch
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versus just what feels safe?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Well for me, this this one didn't, You know what
I mean?
Speaker 7 (39:52):
I love playing like the quote unquote bad bad guy.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I mean.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
As an actor, it's it's it's fun playing outside of
what you know people know you as, and and how
you're perceived. So so you know, situations which I might
not have been you know, given that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Word not for us, You know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
That was cool?
Speaker 6 (40:18):
I mean as as a part of the casting process.
You know, not to name names, but that was that
was a conversation around today. Could he play this role?
Could he play a bad guy?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Like, why can't he have different versions of who he
is to show that diversity within himself?
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Right? So?
Speaker 6 (40:39):
But I mean what I would say, what what would
stretch me is a biopic. Yeah, I would love to
do a biopick on Fred Hammon. I would love it.
Like if Fred, if you're watching and listened, call us, Yeah,
I would He's just I mean, he's just iconic, and
(40:59):
it would say it was an uphill clon. So there's
a lot of stories within that story, you know that
that that that will bold well for you.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Know, consumer consumption.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
But yeah, I mean he's right up there, right So,
but a bio pick would actually you know, how do
you make it factual but then also entertaining at the
same time, but not but not straying away to make
it too you know, fictional?
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
My last question to tell you, how do you hope
your career will be remembered, not just in terms of roles,
but in terms of like your impact on culture and
like your the next generation of acting.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (41:34):
I'm trying to get to the point where I don't
care because that's the easiest for me. And if I
come from that standpoint, I don't have to worry about
controlling anything. So that's what works for me. I used
to hate the idea of getting old, and then people
used to say words like oh, legacy, and then that
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started to make me feel good. But then I was realizing, Okay,
I'm still attached to what happens when those movies are out,
and then people stopped talking No, so let me just
try to be in the moment, do good work, be grateful,
and remember what I did. But just stay in the moment,
because that's all that I can really deal with.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (42:21):
Yeah, well, I just want to say this. You don't
have any movies that you are casting for.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
I am you have a job a job.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
I do have a job, but I want another one.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
When I tell you, you know.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
That's actors come on and they'll say line, you know,
every every third line, line you never said, came.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
On set on time?
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Yes on.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
I don't know if she's on time here, but she's
she's so consistently on tim knew her lines. You know,
people they take their cues from the names on set.
So if she's coming in with a cloud overhead, the
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whole set will have a cloud sun constantly shining.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
And she was pregnant. I know she was going that
first trimester. We didn't know it. She didn't show it.
M constantly professional. Yeah, I don't have to worry about that.
You know, you stay on speech, you know, jes get busy.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Why does your tattoos say chocolate?
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Me?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
M looking at the question, not about my booty has
no because you're talking. I know. It's a book. I
wrote a book.
Speaker 7 (43:48):
Self self esteem and young people being proud of how
they look at their chocolate.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Dope.
Speaker 8 (43:55):
Yeah, I love that it's available now, not his chocolate.
Questions about.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Children's book, the children's book I need, Yeah, order.
Speaker 11 (44:16):
It makes sense. I remember you having no conversations about
your son and people like that.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Whole another book. Yeah for him? Yeah, I love that alright.
It embracing ourselves.
Speaker 9 (44:26):
When are we releasing I'm sorry, we like, I'm for
your team.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
When are you'll released in Another Man's Wife?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Another.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
It will either be late Q four so December, or
or early key one six, so over the next four months.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Look out for absolutely, Thank you, brothers, for you, thank
you with the day, with the production teams.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
So we don't forget.
Speaker 6 (45:04):
That's a good question. So it's freely films. That that's
that's that's what I bring to the table.
Speaker 12 (45:08):
And then and it's down deep right now, down deep productions. Yeah,
so we partner together and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
You have, let's figure out.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
His ass productions, y'all.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Man, None of this matters if you know people don't
go out there.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
And support staying for the people in the back.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
But also you.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Gotta make your way back up here when the movie
comes out, come back up talking about people understanding and
see it.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Thank y'all, thank you, absolutely appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
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Speaker 5 (00:32):
Clicks up the Breakfast Club finish the y'all done, morning everybody,
It's the j n V.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Law La Rosa is here as well, and we got
some special guests in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yes, indeed, you got the brother t Diggs. Is this
your first time here? None, I've been here, haven't been
in a minute. It's long. I've been a long time.
I've been here before. I'm a black man, Okay, couple time, yeah, yeah,
after you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It was a long time ago, all right, Jay Carter
and Troy Brookings welcome fellas.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, feeling good, feeling good, happy to be here.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
What what do we owes threesome.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We're promoting this new lou chocolate.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Chocolate, some new loub But that's right, goes in, easy,
comes out, smooth my work.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yes, we're a producer team.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Newly formed and you know, kind of happened organically where
we started to produce content as we cast a Troy
and I and uh, you know the natural kind of
progression of it. You know what, Let's let's let's three
black men. Let's let's go and own this ourselves. Let's
build a table, let's build a couple of seats. So yeah,
that's what we on this occasion, also to promote the
new movie Nice that.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I feel like that's the that's not that's the only
way in Hollywood now, like to form your own production
company and shoot your own stuff. I mean tell you
probably know better than most of them.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
I mean it's like, I mean, obviously there's the way
things have been done. But if you want to guarantee
anything at this point, you you've got to do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Because there's no shame these days.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
People will lie right to your face and there's no
code and for someone like me. I just got frustrated
because I like to play by the rules, but when
the people on my own team are not playing by
the rules but then breaking and I'm watching them break them.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But let's do this ourselves.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
And right now, with social media and everything, it's proof that,
like people are taking control absolutely and.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I love that.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
How did you three come together?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
How did this happen?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I can I can take that if you want, sure.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
So, uh we had a movie. Uh so, I'm a
part of Freely Films. It's me Tonya right, my wife Lashawn,
she's a partner in business and in life. We have
a production company and so we were producing this movie
called The Comeback a couple.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Of years ago, and actually we cast the lead.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Female in the role. And this this is how you know,
things just happen and you got to embrace that opportunity,
right right, Yeah, the universe just happened. So the agent
for the female called me. The female lead called me
and said, hey, have you cast the male lead yet?
And I'm just bopping around. I'm like, nah, we haven't
cast it. We've got a few people we're talking to you, right,
And she was like, well, Tate Diggs is seeing the script?
(03:43):
Would you be interested in Tate Diggs? Now that was
the most obvious, you know, But but here's the thing
about it, like and this is this is how you
can block your blessings. I tried to talk her out
of it because I wasn't ready.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I didn't think I was ready.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
And we think we're doing the right thing because we
think it's humility.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
But we're getting in our own wedding in our own way.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
And so she talked me into it. She was like, Jay, no,
this is happening, Embrace it, run with it. And so
that was a couple of years ago. He came into Atlanta,
where I'm based, shot it. I'm hugely successful on Peacock
as well, and uh Rest is history. So we've been
collaborating ever since.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I'm interested in that because if you write a script,
you know it's great.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
At least I would think you would know it's great.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Why wouldn't you expect anybody to read it and want
to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, that's that's the crazy thing about the business.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Like what you said makes sense, Yeah, as it is
now makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It makes no sense.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Like if you knew the movies that got turned down,
and if you saw the stars that were in those
movies and what you'd be like, what, there's no rhyme
or read like egos. I mean, it's it's really frustrating
because you're you're you're raised to think that everything happens
for a reason. Like I knew I was talented. I
(05:01):
knew I would I got into school. When I got
into school, I was like, Okay, black people, the business
is going to need black people. I'm gonna move to
New York. I can do stage or screen. That happened,
and then I got movie after movie, and then all
of a sudden, the rules changed. Wait, who are the influencers?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Who is it?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
Wait, he got the part over but he doesn't have
any experience, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
He's got followers. What are followers?
Speaker 7 (05:30):
It's his videos videos? Who is anybody paint? No, he
just put on videos and because he got all so
it's like, you gotta adjust, Then let me do.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I can't swear. Let's do this ourselves.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
And we'll play by their rules. But at least will
I won't have the excuse.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I can't complain. Now I'm gonna play it by your rules,
but we're gonna do it our way.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Doesn't bother you when somebody doesn't put in an amount
of time that you did, doesn't go to the school,
doesn't do the things that you did, and then because
of followers, because of social media, because of a funny
skit might get the part over you.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Does that bother you at all?
Speaker 7 (06:12):
I mean, if there's talent there, then it's cool, you
know what I mean? For me, I just didn't. It
didn't make sense. I didn't care who was doing what,
but good for you. Whatever they were doing was working,
and I was like, good for you. But I don't
know what to do right now?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Andy would come in here and show me that video.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
I'm not That's why it's this worked for me? All right, Well,
I'll just be funny and not even I don't even.
I don't even realize that people are watching. I would
just like express myself and if it worked, okay, I
don't know what's happening, but they say post, I still
have to ask him.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I don't like, how do I double the well? How
do I take this and copy? You know? Well?
Speaker 9 (06:58):
We love t Diggs on Instagram and I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I apologize because that's you never.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Saw you like the post?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I never saw when he liked the post.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
He loves your post. I don't even know.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
I don't even know he put know how to read
this response.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Just about today, it's like, yeah, but you do realize.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I mean, that's interesting to see to hear somebody like
Tate Diggs feel like they had to do that.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
How do you think I feel? How do you think
I feel? Right? That's totally good. You you know what
I mean?
Speaker 7 (07:41):
In this movie, you want Joe who's never acted in
his life, and I can't. It's not even I can't
get an audition. I'm not even a part of the conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That crazy.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
So I was like, I don't I don't hate that dude,
but somebody tell me what's going on with these rules?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Because I've worked really hard and I like to buy
a lot of nice Really, you know what I'm saying,
how are we going to do this? Somebody just explained
it to me, But for a minute, I was.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Like I was I It was pushed back and people
like to argue, well I did this, Well.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It doesn't matter. Nobody cares it.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
Seems like the formula is now that a lot of
influencers are being casted because they can push the movie easier.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Right, But what.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
But what happened because at first we didn't need that,
nobody needed that.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
So budgets are smaller.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Budgets are smaller, and so when you have an influencer
as five million followers, that is free marketing. And so
the studio doesn't have to come up with a you know,
one million dollar marketing budget because they have just right now,
we'll use just as a case study, right, because I
cast just in the.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Movie that I Hate I Love You, I Love You.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Super super successful and now it's on to be the
number one drama on too be Love That excellent. But
you know, we we we we saw obviously just as followers,
and we said, you know, built in marketing, right, she
could posed, it's going to be great.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
But then I watched her actual acting work.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
She was great.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
That that was the That was the clincher, you know,
seeing her and I got a story to tell it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Every morning for us.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It worked.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, it worked like okay, cool, well let me get
on this boat.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
So INA's example, if you can marry the social media
prowess and the following with the talent, like Jess is
married to those two things.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You got the winner. You have today today.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
To figure out how to make it worse cut.
Speaker 9 (09:56):
Yeah, I never knew that.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
So Hollywood have an evolved in in terms of the
opportunities available to black actors since you, since you first started.
It feels like at first I was thinking the barriers
are just dressed differently, But now it feels like they
don't even want you.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
General until we prove it, you know what I'm saying.
Like right now, we're at a time where they don't
have control.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Like all that stuff that you said. Soon everybody's gonna
be talking like that, and that's not a student. Studio
can't take credit.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
And that's what I love. We're doing it ourselves and
no one can stop.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Us, and it's succeeding.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
I still don't get it. Yeah, it was too good
to be true because I was raised.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You got to be let in.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
You can apologize, you know, be really grateful and talk
to this meeting, go to this you know, crazy restaurant
and meet with these studio hat.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
That's not how it goes down.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
A bunch of non people that I've never heard of
doing funny stuff host again and then get it.
Speaker 9 (11:00):
Hey, so it's the positives and the negatives of it.
So you you so it's bittersweet for you.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Huh, Well it's now it's sweet because we're taking control.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So I have no I can complain, but we now
there's no excuse. That's why we're here. Let's get on board.
Let's get it doing that.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
That's gonna be the most interesting thing when you as
a production company, y'all take all the risks, put up
the money, shoot it. You know it's good, But then
the studio is still like, eh, well that we know
something else.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But that's what he said earlier.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He said, all these black stars in these movies and
nobody's picking them up.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And what we were talking about, there's no risk.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, it's never I mean, he's.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
A little bit of money.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
You got to get somebody with a huge mansion, get
actors that just want to be seen.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
That's what It's almost too good to be.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
True if it's a story that people like people are
going to show up, And that's when I can give
my finger to the studios period and be like, you
don't need brad pet you don't need to you.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Know, we made up our own story.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Yeah, our own people that you don't know. But our
people are going to show up and watch them, which
isn't supposed to happen.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Absolutely, so let's hear it for black people. But let
me ask your question, does ever bother you?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Know?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
You have major releases that instead of the major releases
now to b or Peacock or something that you know,
the masters might not have seen like they've seen one
of your other movies, were the theater, it's global.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's national, it's this. Does that bother you at all?
Because you like to stay positive, don't challenging questions.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I believe you meet your audience where they are, you know,
And so if they're on Peacock, we'll meet you there.
If they're on TV, we'll meet you there. If they're
in theaters, we'll meet you there. But we're going to
meet you where you are, as opposed to expect expecting
you to come to where we are, like, yeah, we're
gonna and and the you know, the magic about what
we're doing is you know, Tay obviously international superstar.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Right mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Humility speaking humbly speaking, international super walks in the door
commands a certain level of you know, respecting people. Okay,
we're gonna listen, right, Absolutely, I've got the funding, I've got.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
The distribution on projects.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't know if you've heard who Clarence Avon is.
This is the young clars He is the grand connected.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
If he showed you who he has in his content,
your mind will be blown.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And so if we ever got a home of whoever set.
Speaker 10 (13:33):
Yeah, so so we we we make this this combination
of you know, the business side is taken care of
the content, talent side is taken care of the connection
and being able to reach certain talent, and Troy is
taken care of.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
An example, like.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Troy started out as like my assistant, right, so he
he's like the last person that people want to include
in all these meetings.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Like, I need to meet with subject. Had nobody told me?
Nobody sees me nobody hmmm. Cut to a few years
discussions and him being working with me. He sees he
knows how people are moving. So he's like, oh, this
person said that they were here, but they never they
never really committed and they blamed me. But this person
(14:28):
said that you were supposed to get there, and I
saw the I saw that you didn't get paid that much.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So now he is like working for us. Who would
have known. Now he's a major producer, you know, and now.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Like I can't, I can't move without him. But they're
not that, they're not a part of that business plan.
He's the assistant Watts give him two years.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I love that.
Speaker 11 (14:55):
Yeah, what's that experience been like for you now? Because
I mean it said.
Speaker 12 (15:00):
Yeah, it's been It's been a ride for real. I
mean we I used to play football. I used to
play professional football. That was like my first goal. My
dream was all about football. That's all I knew. And
God humbly blessed me with the opportunity to play All
American And that's where me and him met. And so
when we met, you know, everybody, you know, low key
(15:21):
gravitated towards me because I would train them and teach
them how to run a route or you know, do
everything that I used to do.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Play football together.
Speaker 13 (15:30):
No, no, right away, pretend.
Speaker 12 (15:44):
I love it, but yeah, no, we met. We met
there and then you know, one day we just we
kicked through. We grabbed some lunch at soho and he
was like, yo, you want to be my assistant and
I'm like, bro, I never, Yeah, I've never done it.
And then and you know, we just took the ball
wrong and we started at two days and I'm like, dog,
(16:05):
these emails is crazy. I can't just to days like
knowing me how I you know, put my time in.
I'm like, I can't do two days. We got to
lock in all the way and you know, seven seven
years now rolling.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
And it was always Troy is great, like from the
cool people, yeah, oh he's great, And I kept on
hearing that. Now we're making business deals with those people.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, with him, and the people that didn't see.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Him are now like, where are you het?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I love that too.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
You know I've heard you speak to you about issues
of identity and acceptance right, and it feels like this
is another layer of that. Like in regards to Hollywood,
like you maybe questioning who did you.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Have a question who you were?
Speaker 7 (16:54):
Well, they want you to like I never, That's what
didn't make sense. I've always on who I am, but
why don't you know? How come it's not so? Then
I had to move to a place where we were
all on the same page, which is like, you know,
a good lesson in identity.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You can't let anybody else dictate that.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
I know who I am. You know who I am.
And now we're all in business. Why because we know
each other. They don't know us.
Speaker 12 (17:22):
Like, somebody can't come to me and be like, yo,
taste said this, and I'll be like, no, I already know.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I already know what's up.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 12 (17:28):
But people will try that.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
So in Hollywood, what is it is?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Is it ability? Is it your box office?
Speaker 7 (17:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
But like what is it?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Oh right now? Nobody like we're about to make what
it is? Nobody knows what it is now?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, that's why it's a great time. Yeah, nobody knows.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
You see a movie coming out in the theaters, then
you're watching it on the Nobody knows what's and they're
always pretending like they do.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
This is a sure thing and we're on it, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Another man's wife, that is the name of him? Okay,
who had what to do? Because that already that I
already want to know.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Another man's wife?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Who who wrote that?
Speaker 9 (18:10):
Whose idea was it?
Speaker 5 (18:12):
What's happening?
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Yes, So shout out to Maverick Entertainment, and you gotta
have allies, right like.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We we we can do what we can do.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
But you know, we know who's still run in Hollywood, right,
so and you have to have those allies. And so
Maverick Entertainment, Doug Kelsey, Erica huge allies.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
You know, they finance our work, they distribute our work.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
So they said, you know what, Jake Carter, why don't
you come up with an idea based on this premise?
And so I brought in the writer by the name
of Brion the Cole, who said, uh, yeah, I think
I can tackle that. And you know, it was a
like the story, it just it just puts you in
the choke hold, you know. And it's it's about a
young couple who are struggling backs up against the wall,
(19:00):
losing their losing their house, losing their car. Uh husband
lost his job and then to make matters words yeah truly.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah yeah, but you know the world is just banging
on them.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Right then the husband finds out his mom has a
serious illness and she could die, and the the the
medical treatment that she needs and covered by insurance. So
they're drowning in debt and just financial issues.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
So Tay's character.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Comes along and he throws them a life raft and
he said, for two million dollars, I can change your life.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But he looks at the wife.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
And he says, the only thing I want to return
is one weekend with you. Now, it's one weekend that
this this husband is going to give up his wife for.
Can save his mother, can save his job, could save
his car, could save his house, could save his marriage.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
But at what costs? So the question that we always
ask people, you know, and I ask you, just Envy Charlottagelaw,
what would you do.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Two million dollars to save your mom, to save your house,
to save your car.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Jesus, all you got to give up one weekend your wife.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I ain't giving up my wife though, But chance happened.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
There's a chance that nothing happens.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
They can.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
They can watch your wife. She all she has to
do is go.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I know, looking at my wife, I know nothing will happen.
But it's just the fact of pain from the guy.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I won't say nothing happened. What if it's Maxwell. Don't
your wife love Max?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Definitely? Not definitely, But it's the premise of pain.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, yeah, it just it seems like belittally.
Speaker 12 (20:46):
And the therapy that you would need after it. That's right,
you know what I mean, because you're not that's a
mental thing after after that, because she made you know
you even though you feel like nothing happened, you never know.
Speaker 11 (20:56):
You never know, doesn't go though, and all this stuff
does happened. You lose a lot of stuff on the
back end, so then you still need Then you're going,
I mean, I got you talking about my mom here,
like you're saying that, like I would lose my mom.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You don't.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Think about fifteen years of Runway's sixty's young six.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Is not what you do?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Oh yeah, two million?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
There you're going, we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
What happened with them?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You heard?
Speaker 9 (21:36):
I'm going, what do we lose that we lose our mom.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
Mom, your house?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
What else?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Your marriage? Everything crumbles?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Not necessarily it depends on you if you lose the marriage.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I need to see the nuance, Like do I know
who the guy is? We have a background on him
that we know.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
You know he's meant to me? Well, you know what
I mean, he's all above levels, Like this is me,
this is what's going on. I want you to meet me,
and there's no manipulation. Everything, there's a contract.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
More's chestnuts. Why can't I the sequel.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
The way, I'm just saying, I'm going what you doing?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I'm just trying do nothing.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I'm just saying, why can't I Why can't I go?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Why did they have to be on?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
The guy not gay? Like this?
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
That it's not that say I was gay?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I just said why can't I go? But that's what
a man does, right when you when you when it's
a job that.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You don't want your woman to do it.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
But the guy is like, I don't know, I don't
like dudes. I don't want your wife.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I'm asking for your wife type of arrange.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
He said, why can't I go? Let me do what
you want to do. You said, the guy's not Diddy,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Even like Jay looked at me and said, I want
your wife, magga one.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
But but you see the conversation that it sparks, right,
and so that's what we're that, that's what we're banking
on is you know people sitting on their couch, you know,
the wife cutting her eyes at her husband, the husband
cutting his eyes and his wife like you know, damn,
what would you do?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
What would you do? It is a million? What's your number?
Two million, three million, four million? You know what?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
What?
Speaker 6 (23:24):
What will it cost you in the short term and
what's going to cost you in the long term once
there's a ripple effect in the fallout. So it just
sparks up this really cool dialogue.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
And then all of the relatable issues like that they're
going through even before they get to the point of
you know Tay's character, right, Like a lot of people are.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Going through it.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
The economy that you know, they we're in people's moms
or you know, people's parents period, are getting sick. Insurance
is not covering things that they need. Some people don't
even have insurance because of you know, government issues and
all that type of things. So it's like it's very
relatable until you get to the saving great.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Here because literally insurance and insurance company they are.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
They are here to make money.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
They're not nonprofit, they are a for profit companies. So
they will say this procedure, this treatment cost too much.
Speaker 11 (24:12):
You had this fire script and you were surprised or
I felt like you weren't ready. When is like I
want to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Like I'm listening to the Congress.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
No, that was that was the comeback. This one I knew, yeah,
this one, this one.
Speaker 12 (24:24):
I was like, hey, he called me and was like, Yo,
let's availability we just go around.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
He was definitely with it because he I.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Mean, he fits that mysterious brooding. You can look at
him and tell he he fits it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
So I'm tremendously talented.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And we as actors, we we forget.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Like I'm doing a show with Wayne Brady and he
was like, hey, man, would you We were thinking about you?
And I was like, oh, I was on your mond.
Like you get caught up in your own world and
if you're in any way grounded, you forget that other
(25:10):
people see you in a certain way.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Did you ever forget who you were?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Constantly? Constantly? And I gotta be reminded, Like that's something
I gotta work on because sometimes I'll be ashamed too
and people.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
You cold, they know who you are?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Ye wound, No, because I know that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
It's it's it has to do with like being raised
in the church and you know, being taught you need
to be humble, you know, think about others like It's
like what they teach you. If you really want to succeed,
you have to do the exact opposite. You got to
be like a Kanye West. I'm not gonna apologize. I
belong here, Boom, don't don't knock open the door. Those
(25:56):
are the people that really and that's not.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
How I was raised.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
And I took a lot of pride in like following
the rules, and I still made it through. But I'm like, oh,
I could have been so much more if I like
I remember going on auditions and being like, you know
what this isn't I think I know somebody else who's
better for this part literally, and then feeling proud giving
(26:22):
a part away, like if it was a hood thing Lauren.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Told me about what was it?
Speaker 12 (26:36):
Uh, I was the one that was was you were
going to do? He did and Matrix was a matrix or.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't know. This is really great for radio though,
really great.
Speaker 11 (26:52):
About the movies we would have recognized that were like
big successes and you.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
I don't know if it went, but I just remember thinking,
you know, I wanted to like do the right thing
instead of like promote myself and then and then and
and sometimes you know that that can be.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It can lead in the wrong direction. And I'm still learning.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
I don't think you can have an act to Kanye West,
because in order to promote yourself, people got to be.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Giving you work, because your work is your calling card.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Like we we we rate Denzel because all of the
times we've seen Denzel and these fantastic girls. You rate
Tom Hanks because all the times you've seen him in
these fantastic growths.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I mean, it's the same reason we ran you.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
But that would be the only thing you could actually
use to stick your chest out.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
But I forget you got classics though, I forget.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Oh man, I've still got a groove bag best man
Brown shut.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You don't forget when you did them. But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
I don't know until somebody comes up to me, and
then the industry like, oh that's it's a fan like
the whole all this time, everyone's telling you to stay grounded,
you know what I mean, And then you take a
person that's like raised in the in the church, and
I'm trying to be humble, and don't you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I don't want to be like this actor.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
I don't want to be like that actor, this person
stepped too far over the line.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And they so then you just like all of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
You kind of forget who what you're worth, trying to
like follow the rules. I'm being a good person, I'm
being humble. Don't you know make sure you look after
the other person. No, that doesn't work. But it took
a minute, and it took a bunch of people, but
to be like, don't you know who you are? And
(28:41):
at first I'm like, oh, this person, he doesn't get it.
And then you're like, wait, Will Smith, and you look
at all the people that are doing it Kevin Harp
where I was like, oh, these guys are too they're
they're too full of themselves. Look at where they are,
and it's like you have to be in order.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
To I believe that he aumility though, like you save
it for the people who deserve it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, right, you save that humility and that approach for
the people who deserve it, who keep it works for you?
You know, thirty years later I thought it was humility.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
What about other people that that you had, like like
you got closer that you did projects with like a
Morse Chestnut or like friends like do you have like
do they do you have these conversations with them?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Do they like like what's wrong? Like I know more so, well, yes,
all of a sudden, I started seeing him like I
look at him on Instagram.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
That's not it's funny her Instagram up.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
He took charge and I'm like, well, if Mars is
doing because we're both capricorns, yeah, we both play by
the rules.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
We like to work hard. I was like, oh, I said, okay.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Is doing its ain't showing ass.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Now, just be dancing.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
He never shows online his old mask.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Remember about ring I did. I did not say nothing
about that man's as he said, you should be on
while you're talking about.
Speaker 14 (30:15):
Right now, But no, I tell you, I'm serious man.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Brown Sugar is one of my favorite movies ever. Like
that was the first and last hip hop brom com.
I don't know why that didn't open up a whole
new genre, and I always wanted how I did working
on that film change the way you think about like
the connection between music and relationships and just coachure period.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Oh it taught me.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
It taught me, you know what I mean. I didn't
know that, and I was very proud because that was
like something new and innovative and it worked, and I
was like, oh we wow, we are good.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
This is with the music in this okay? All right
black people?
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Like that's when it started to really connect, like we
can do anything we can't. We can do more than
just catch up. We can create this thing with music
that we created and take all the elements of some
of the white movies. But then this it's our story
and awesome.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
What was it about you.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
That made that love story feel so authentic?
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Oh, that's just some kind of I don't know, it's
a chemistry. Like I've been in this business long enough
to know I have I have no idea, but it
just worked. It just worked, and some things you just
I'm very I feel very blessed because for a while
I would hear stories of other just horror stories of
(31:52):
people that were playing couples and they hated each other, and.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I did not I had no idea what that was like,
you know, I mean I didn't know how lucky. I
didn't know how lucky I was.
Speaker 9 (32:02):
You know, did you hatting me along when she slept chasst.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Man at that moment?
Speaker 9 (32:10):
But it was the right choice and it was a
good acting yo, you did not break, though it was
the right choice.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
You didn't know it was coming, but that's phenomenal. He
did not break. It was written in the script.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
But in a situation like that, you need to have
a stuntman come, and it's supposed to be a fake slapper.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
It's the whole thing. And the stumm man didn't come,
and she just slapped and she she should have.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
But I had just come out of you know, drama school,
and I was like, why didn't rebhears?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And how dare you?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
The director didn't have my back? How many takes that?
Speaker 11 (32:53):
Do you feel like The Best Man Unfinished Business? The
book that Malcolm Delee just did, do you feel like
that should be on TV or like a series versus
the book?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
So you know what, the book that.
Speaker 11 (33:06):
He the recent book he just did, that's supposed to
continue the conversation.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
As an actor, I'll say yes, just because I want
to be in it, but as as I love what
he's doing and that makes perfect sense, and and I
love that it's happening because I love that you can
take the idea that a book about a book, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm very impressed with him.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
We had him up here to think that don't make
no sense to me about the best Man, and I
guess it goes into what we're talking about today. It
broke records on Peacock, right, it was like the most
view series ever on Peacock. Wouldn't common sense say hey,
let's do more of this?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
You said, common sense?
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yes, that's the key, exactly.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
That's the key because you think about who's at the
table making these decisions. Allow those folks at the table,
they don't care about us, They don't you know, we
can do numbers, but we constantly have to prove ourselves over.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
We have to get out. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
You have agents that are turning down jobs that will
make them money.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, but because of their ego. Yep. So it's like, well,
what this you know?
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Yeah, I don't get it, and I'm spending too much
time trying to figure it out. So let's just thank
god there are other people that I can look at.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Oh it's working, well, then let's go.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
It feels very dre leaving Millennium Records. Man, that's how
I feel what I feel like.
Speaker 11 (34:31):
It's literally one of my questions here is like your
character and from Sugar is so you in real life,
everything you're going through now, and then what the music
industry is going through right now.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Too, Except this is like a surefire thing.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Like I'm not I don't feel like I'm taking the risk.
The only reason I'm doing it is because it works.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, I mean this is our third film with Say.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
We had to come back huge hit on Peacock Both
Eyes Open went out to theaters and it was the
number one movie on Stars for four weeks in a row.
And then coming up with another Man's Wife. It's it's
they always slept on the performance.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
They're not waking up now. I'm gonna be a part
of it.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
They can see you camera.
Speaker 11 (35:23):
I would watch it for all of you guys, because
there's so much content out there now, people that are
looking to do it their own way. How do they
get like out of the noise and like actually get
people to respect what they're doing, get people to want
to finance it and not just stay on social forever
or you know what I mean, Like build it where
it's like a business is elevated.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
Honestly, nobody knows. I would say content and quality. That's
not necessarily the case. It's like you got to look
and see what's what's hitting now and jump on that, or.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Take a risk and try something new.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
And you know, the content may vary, right, I mean,
I'm sorry, quality of content may vary. And obviously the
better the quality, the better opportunity you have for it
to get seen and the people to take you seriously.
But the end of the day, it's about a compelling story,
and you have to have a great story. Everything starts
with a great story, and then you have to have
great actors who can deliver that story. If he have
(36:22):
that formula, nothing still guaranteed. I mean, it's I mean,
to your point, Charlotte, it's it's it's mind boggling how
Malcolm cannot get a season two of It's like mind boggling, right,
But that's what happens, you know, And it's he was
very politically correct, you know, he was very you know, diplomatic, right,
(36:43):
but let me say it was some bullshit that he
that he is not. I mean, he is one of
the greatest writers of our time, one of the greatest
directors of our time. So so that's the lesson learned
is we're gonna tell our compelling stories, but we're gonna
we're gonna control the vehicle, and we're gonna build our
own seats, build our own tables, because if nobody else
is willing to tell our stories, well darn it, will
tell it.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
And if I remember correctly, and I could be wrong, Malcolm,
so forgive me. I thought he kind of you kind
of put the onus on the actors a little bit
because he said, it's just all of y'all are so busy.
You knows so many big stars on that it's hard
to get you all together.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
I mean, that was true. We were all you know,
everybody was blessed to be working. That was a part
of it.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
But I mean how long.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I mean Sanx in the city, they figured out how
to do their business. Friends they figure gets.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Tiring waiting for them to let us in, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Because money makes people figure it out.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
So not even money sometimes because we were making money.
That's what I didn't get. Why do this with this black.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Movie and then they don't have and they don't have
any explanation and they're fine with it. Why do black
movies disappear every once in a while. When was the
last black romantic comedy you saw?
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Jesus?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Oh no, not a comedy.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Another when they were like there was one after another,
they were all making money.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I guess somebody decided to not do them.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
I guess the last one I saw was was it
a comedy?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Though forever?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
It's not a comedy? The joint with Keith that wasn't
a comedy, wasn't.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
No photograph now that wasn't wow. I mean you'd have
to go back to like you can play that game, like, yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
One after another and it was like fun.
Speaker 11 (38:35):
You bring that up a lot, because I feel like
that time movies and television, it just it was you
didn't have to think about it so hard, even so much,
right like, and they gave you a feeling and it
was different.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
It's something happened, and I don't know what happened. And
I like to talk to people like you t because
y'all wore those superstars in the nineties and early two thousands.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Black.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Everything that we talk about wanting in black cinema and
black film, it was there already, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
And it's not like it wasn't doing numbers. The movies
was doing numbers.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Copedy show a different world, the number one, number two
show in the world.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
It's just like what happened?
Speaker 5 (39:05):
That means Hollywood just be like, you know what, we
don't want to make no money with niggas.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Mmm.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
You think about the guy and his name escapes me.
But Love Jones iconic, right, I mean it brings out
in the motion.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
When you hear it.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
That director never had an opportunity to direct another feature again.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
After Love Jones.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Jones?
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Why or did or Witcher?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah never?
Speaker 6 (39:27):
You know, but other other directors can fail two, three,
four times and still get a budget. You know, they
they felt Love Jones didn't make enough money, so he
never got an opportunity. But look at the look at
the social impact it had on our culture. Matter never
directed another feature? So what projects allow y'all to scratch
(39:47):
versus just what feels safe?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Well for me, this this one didn't, You know what
I mean?
Speaker 7 (39:52):
I love playing like the quote unquote bad bad guy.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I mean.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
As an actor, it's it's it's fun playing outside of
what you know people know you as, and and how
you're perceived. So so you know, situations which I might
not have been you know, given that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Word not for us, You know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
That was cool?
Speaker 6 (40:18):
I mean as as a part of the casting process.
You know, not to name names, but that was that
was a conversation around today. Could he play this role?
Could he play a bad guy?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Like, why can't he have different versions of who he
is to show that diversity within himself?
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Right? So?
Speaker 6 (40:39):
But I mean what I would say, what what would
stretch me is a biopic. Yeah, I would love to
do a biopick on Fred Hammon. I would love it.
Like if Fred, if you're watching and listened, call us, Yeah,
I would He's just I mean, he's just iconic, and
(40:59):
it would say it was an uphill clon. So there's
a lot of stories within that story, you know that
that that that will bold well for you.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Know, consumer consumption.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
But yeah, I mean he's right up there, right So,
but a bio pick would actually you know, how do
you make it factual but then also entertaining at the
same time, but not but not straying away to make
it too you know, fictional?
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
My last question to tell you, how do you hope
your career will be remembered, not just in terms of roles,
but in terms of like your impact on culture and
like your the next generation of acting.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (41:34):
I'm trying to get to the point where I don't
care because that's the easiest for me. And if I
come from that standpoint, I don't have to worry about
controlling anything. So that's what works for me. I used
to hate the idea of getting old, and then people
used to say words like oh, legacy, and then that
(41:58):
started to make me feel good. But then I was realizing, Okay,
I'm still attached to what happens when those movies are out,
and then people stopped talking No, so let me just
try to be in the moment, do good work, be grateful,
and remember what I did. But just stay in the moment,
because that's all that I can really deal with.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (42:21):
Yeah, well, I just want to say this. You don't
have any movies that you are casting for.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
I am you have a job a job.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
I do have a job, but I want another one.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
When I tell you, you know.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
That's actors come on and they'll say line, you know,
every every third line, line you never said, came.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
On set on time?
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Yes on.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
I don't know if she's on time here, but she's
she's so consistently on tim knew her lines. You know,
people they take their cues from the names on set.
So if she's coming in with a cloud overhead, the
(43:10):
whole set will have a cloud sun constantly shining.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
And she was pregnant. I know she was going that
first trimester. We didn't know it. She didn't show it.
M constantly professional. Yeah, I don't have to worry about that.
You know, you stay on speech, you know, jes get busy.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Why does your tattoos say chocolate?
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Me?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
M looking at the question, not about my booty has
no because you're talking. I know. It's a book. I
wrote a book.
Speaker 7 (43:48):
Self self esteem and young people being proud of how
they look at their chocolate.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Dope.
Speaker 8 (43:55):
Yeah, I love that it's available now, not his chocolate.
Questions about.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Children's book, the children's book I need, Yeah, order.
Speaker 11 (44:16):
It makes sense. I remember you having no conversations about
your son and people like that.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Whole another book. Yeah for him? Yeah, I love that alright.
It embracing ourselves.
Speaker 9 (44:26):
When are we releasing I'm sorry, we like, I'm for
your team.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
When are you'll released in Another Man's Wife?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Another.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
It will either be late Q four so December, or
or early key one six, so over the next four months.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Look out for absolutely, Thank you, brothers, for you, thank
you with the day, with the production teams.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
So we don't forget.
Speaker 6 (45:04):
That's a good question. So it's freely films. That that's
that's that's what I bring to the table.
Speaker 12 (45:08):
And then and it's down deep right now, down deep productions. Yeah,
so we partner together and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
You have, let's figure out.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
His ass productions, y'all.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Man, None of this matters if you know people don't
go out there.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
And support staying for the people in the back.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
But also you.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Gotta make your way back up here when the movie
comes out, come back up talking about people understanding and
see it.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Thank y'all, thank you, absolutely appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Troy J called Digs. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning
every day.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
I wait, click your ass up, the breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
You don't finish for y'all.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Done,
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