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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The breakfast Club warning everybody is t J n Vy
Jess hilarious, charlamage, the guy we are the breakfast club
Ess is out today.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Lauren's holding it down.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And of course we got our niece, Nola Hill, and
we got a special guest in the building.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Brother, Teddy Swims.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Hang man, swim.
Speaker 5 (00:18):
I'm honored here, man, I'm fine, happy to have you,
really really excited dude.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
We we did.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Our album lease party last night though, so uh you
know again, excuse my drinking for you.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Don't drinking early in the morning.
Speaker 6 (00:33):
You see that one over lest you be on the way?
Speaker 7 (00:38):
What all right?
Speaker 6 (00:39):
Why out here telling my business?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
How about you say?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I was like, we need to drink.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well, congratulated drinking a pregnant woman?
Speaker 7 (00:51):
How you feel?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
First of all, stop, I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Have you got a man's gonna get pregnant without a man?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Oh god, it's read the whole situation. Let's start. Let's start.
Can we go back to the guys from my baby
all the way? Yeah? I have one other way? Absolutely, Yeah,
you're drinking with a pregnant man's.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Early tell us about yourself, Teddy.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Man, that's so loaded.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Just who are you?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I'm my daddy's son.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
That's about it really.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
From I'm from Georgia, from from about thirty minutes east
of Atlanta and Connors, Georgia, Dale County, and you know,
singing songs and I'm a good, good good boy.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
It was very soulful, soulful voice. Did you grow up
in the church.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Yeah, so my granddad was a Pentecostal pastor. I didn't
grow up singing in the church a lot, but I
you know, I definitely grew up with I guess you know,
fire and brimstone for sure, man with the with the
fear of God.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And you're afraid to sind Oh no, no, not not
these days.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
I mean, but I'm just talking about like back in
the day, it was like a very.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Yeah yeah, you know, like what like like girls don't
get haircuts, you know, girls wear skirts, men wear jeans
like that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It was really real kind of tight. And I mean
I'm very fortunate.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I guess I feel like I still subscribe to so
many of the beliefs. I mean, not the beliefs, but
the like the principles of you know, even the beliefs
aren't there.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I do love that my my granddad was.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
As I was growing up with my granddad, he was
he was like, we wouldn't even go to restaurants that
would have a bar in the restaurant, you know. And
not that he ever had a problem drinking, but it
was just he stood on his belief so much. The
thing that I was always with him was that I
didn't subscribe to the idea that like telling people that
they're wrong and this is the only way to believe something.
I remember he looked at other churches and be like,
(02:51):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
The only way he believed it was right. I remember.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I remember the first time I sang at his church.
I might have been seventeen or sixteen or something, and I.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Remember him saying, like coming to me and talking to
me and doing like you know, I.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Want you saying at the church, Bud, But man, all
these kids are like break dancing and carrying on for
the Lord.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And I was like, yo, pop, like nobody's broke dance
since like my.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
My mom was the child, and if they want to
break dance for the Lord, like let him break dance
for the Lord.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
You know. He was he was very you know, stern,
like just by the buck. If it wasn't in the Bible,
then it was a sin, you know what I mean? Yeah,
hell yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
But my mom was worse than I was. I remember,
I remember getting in trouble for all sorts of shit
and be like, I'm like, I'm not doing any of that.
She was thought I was doing all sorts of mess.
And I mean, but she was a passers kid. My
mother was the But listen, I.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Wanted to you know, when you talk about rebellious, you
started off playing football, all right, So yes, you was.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Her family was a big football family.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So what got you from football to singing.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
My dear friend? Yeah yeah, yeah you play Yeah, and
an offensive offensive guard as well. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
And but I mean I just five foot seven. Wasn't
really happening, you know, I just.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
High school school at the time.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, but I've been.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Five foot seven since I was in eighth grade, and
so I thought they thought I was gonna be big,
you know, and then it just it didn't happen. I
started shooting up to six foot two and three and
whooped my ass off the line.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
What got you into art?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Like my differend Jesse, who still plays with me. I've
known him since I was a little kid.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
His dad was always in bands and stuff and and
and so we we started trying to experiment and play
music and stuff. And his older sister was a musical
theater and got us in the musical theater. And I
just kind of fell in love with singing, and you know,
I can I I was so I was hooked. I
was hooked that singing has changed my life. I wasn't
good always, but I fell in love with it, you know.
(04:53):
And I remember telling my mom that I was I
was gonna not do football anymore and I was gonna sing.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
And she was so so hurt, like brought out all
my memorabilia, like I can't believe you do this to us.
We would playing football, you know.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
And I remember my first little we did this show
called Damn Yankees. I did like two lines in it,
I think, and uh I after I got done, I
come off stage and she was like, I'm so sorry, baby,
this is where you belong rarely.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
You are a star, you know. I did like two lines,
you know, but it was what do you mean by you.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Weren't always good at it? Like, how do you you
so we were so bad at it.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
You know he was in a group.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Well no, just me and my buddy Jesse. He still
plays guitar rights and he plays guitar in my band still.
And we we used to just always, you know, as
we were learning and trying to build bands together and
do it as kids. You know, we just were really bad.
You know, we sucked, like we're just not good, like
you can still fine. Actually on YouTube. I was a
senior in high school. My first band, Heroic Bear, is
(05:52):
still on YouTube, our our first little EP. And I
was in like a metalcore band at the time, and
so you could still hear me like screaming away and
like sing and if you definitely don't pull it up
now in front of me. I'm just saying, you know,
because I love a cringe. But if you want to
hear it, if you hear it, dude, you're gonna be.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Like, Okay, yeah you got good.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Did you get lessons or did you practice or how
did you just so good?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well? I think I was so lucky.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
I mean I was in theater, you know, and I
had a lot of good friends and they were singing.
But I think I think the biggest thing was growing
up in the like when the YouTube era was first
kind of starting, you know, and if I had questions
or if I wanted to know how to sing, there
was always a live version of singer singing, you know,
so like I could I could watch like live videos of.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
How how is how are they moving their throat, how
are they moving their jaws? How are they second?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
You know, I could I could just sit there and
watch YouTube videos and see people singing live, you know,
like I remember I was a credit recovery watching David,
you know, like singing Craig David singing like and Credit Recovery.
I would pull up like a YouTube proxy and just
have it behind the video and just like listen to
Craig David just I'm walking away. I could see, I could,
I could listen to buy videos and watch their them play,
(07:09):
you know, I'm singing.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
It was like, do you.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Think you like, I guess saw somebody like Craig David
and like mimic Tim and that's how you found your voice?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Oh totally yeah, yeah, we you know, I mean some
of the best man, some of the best that ever
did it. Marvin Gaye watching I was just reading man
listening to al Green, you know this, this is like
the these are.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I mean, it doesn't get How do you figure.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Out what you're like your warm spot was going to be?
Speaker 9 (07:34):
Even genre wise because you're listed as a multi genre vocalist,
people put you in R and B, country.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Rock and pop.
Speaker 9 (07:40):
So how did you At what point did you know like, Okay,
it's going to be a mixture of all this or
did you try different things?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I think I think I was just I love I
love this instrument so much. You know this this I was.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
I was so hooked on this instrument, and so whatever
it felt like it would would work, I'd be I'm
such a fan of this instrument. Yeah, if I hear
or scream or or or saying or anybody doing anything
with their mouth that I don't know how to do,
I'm I don't mean it like that.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Know what you mean?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
He stop?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
He just can't stop. This is him.
Speaker 10 (08:13):
Don't do that.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I mean we're just getting started.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
He likes it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Keep going teddy.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Okay, see how that sounds that you said it.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I'm laughing to no.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
So I mean I just fell in love with the instrument,
and I was like, I want to I want to
know how to do I want to know how to
access that. You know, however people do it, whether it's screaming,
whether it's opera, whether it's whatever it is. I want
to be able to do that. I want to I'm
so in.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Love with this this thing.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
We're so capable of expressing emotion and lending you know,
life stories that way, and I just fell in love with.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
The science to it that I think people don't respect.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
That's what I know you you're a real artist, just
the fact that you keep calling your vocal and instrument Hell.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Yeah, man, it's it's it's such a muscle that and
I think it's the only instrument that you can kind
of take everywhere with you and practice at all times,
you know. But it's also it's bound to you by
your like your decisions or your like, uh travel, your
sickness or whatever's going on.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
It's it's always it's always ever changing and bound to
what you know, what you did last night and wake
it up at nine point thirty and sounded like shit
the next day, you know, So it's it's always bound
to you. And I think I think, I think, I
think it's still like one thing in the world. That
is like your thumbprint on the world.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You know, your your voice is is only yours.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
You can you could with a guitar, or you could
take the same amp, play the same lick with the
same exact guitar and the same pedal and sound the same.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But with your voice, it's.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Like only you have that, you know, and it's such
a special thing. And your circumstance and your your heartbreak
and all that stuff is all a part of something
that makes you so uniquely you.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And then you started doing these covers, right, and you
started covering songs, and then you did one cover that
started shooting up crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Oh, I think Shania Twain, I'm still the one was
our like, that was the one that really kind of
went crazy for us.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That was, you know, I love.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
My mama and my mama loved Shannaa Twain when I
was coming up. I loved Shania Twain too. That that
was that was a real life changing one for us
and I our first one we started out with was
because June twenty fifth of twenty nineteen was the first
time I never even expected doing covers, you know, online
and and uh, we had found like the we found
(10:33):
the the uh stems of Rock with You online and
Michael Jackson. Yeah, and so it was it was ten
years right after he passed. It was this ten year anniversary,
and so I said, well, we should just do Rock
with You by Michael Jackson used to pay homage to
him and for the you know, and then and we
uploaded it and it started doing well, and was like, man,
we should just keep this.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I guess this cover train is kind of going. So
we kept on for.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
You know, the next few months, and I think, I think,
I think the beautiful thing about starting with with Rock
with You it started getting you know, like this said.
The first day we woke up, we had like ten
thousand views and it was so life changing for us.
We like the boys, we're getting a hammered. This is sick.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
And uh, I think I think it was.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
It was such a weird thing because once it hit
like this this critical mass of like maybe five hundred
thousand views. I think people were looking at it and
seeing the way I look and then seeing the rock
with You, you know, and saying rock with You by Michael
Jackson and me and and I'm you know, looking like
an absolute redneck and saying like, either this is hilarious
or this is actually really good. And I think for
(11:36):
our benefit it was it was kind of both, you know,
because just the fact that I was singing that song
but doing it well was just you know, kind of
funny and surprisingly good.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
The first time I got put on you, it was
actually in the barbershop because it was on YouTube and
he had you playing, and I'm like, that is coming
out of that, you know what.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I think that's a special thing for me.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
And I mean it is I almost want to say
it's an think, but it is one of those things
that gets you attention.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah, I think I think there.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
I think there has been a I think there's been
something that we have been able to lean in that
that it doesn't look like what it you know, art
doesn't look like what it sounds like, right, And I
think that's been something that's been so beautiful for for me,
is to be able to have such a mode of
expressive voice and look like I make fart jokes, you know,
and yeah, you know, because I know we all know
(12:26):
what heartbreak is like and we all think farts a funny,
you know, and that's that's just kind of my m O.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
And it's not about what comes out you that's funny
nowadays about what.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Can make you funny.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Kids make you look funny too, Curious curious.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
That's why I got worried about you.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
You tried everything with therapy.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Well, I've tried therapy.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Now there's uh, I've I'm you know, even as we're
getting ready to o a kid, me and my girls
have been doing even couples therapy too, which has been
so wonderful and making sure we're coming in and having
this child and the most healed communicative communicative good D
what is the word?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
You know? Uh?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, And we're trying to make sure we're doing it
separately and and couples therapy and bringing bringing this baby
in the you know, the right way and hopefully and well,
I mean we're still gonna have baggage, of course, but
most healed, safest environment possible. But I think I think
name of the album that was was kind of to
have that conversation and with myself, to get myself to go.
(13:40):
I think there's just like been in generations past and
even still there's this like connotation on therapy that we're like,
so I know, we're not we're not allowed to we're
not allowed to go to that, or we're not allowed
to share our feelings or emotions. Yeah, you know, And
and I just it's been life changing for me. And
I did have even this in my brain and I
(14:00):
was like, I'm not crazy. I don't need that'sh it,
you know. I had this for so long that I
was like, I know myself, I don't need nobody to
tell me what's wrong with me, you know. And I
feel like I feel like once I got it to
it, it was so much different than I thought it would
be too. And I feel like there was something beautiful
about having that first album and not trying it and
being in a place of turmoil on heartbreak with somebody
(14:21):
that was made me feel like my feelings were invalid
or not allowed to have and and having this part
two coming out and being this thing of I've tried therapy,
I'm back in love, I'm having a child. I've got
some level of success in this and you know, we
on the back of heartbreak, it does get better on
the other side, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
And I'm just so grateful.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
For Was it was you going to therapy?
Speaker 9 (14:43):
Was that pushed on you, not pushed on you, but
did your girlfriend kind of like influence you to do.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
That or something you want.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I've been, I've been, you know again, I was, I was,
I was. The plan was to have tried therapy after
I put out the record. It was like kind of
my promise to myself that that the first one, like
I'm going to go to therapy. And I did push
it off for a long time. But I think I
think when we first found out we were kind of pregnant,
she was like, you know what we should do?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
We should do.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
It was never to push on a therapy, like to
me to have my own therapy, but I think I.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Think she's such a wonderful person.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I think she was just like, we should do therapy
together as like a couple of therapies, so we make
sure we bring our kid in. And it kind of
once I felt how that was, I was like, you,
I should do some therapy by myself, do you And
she's like, I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
So it was never kind of pushed.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
It was kind of like I think she planted little
seeds for me to man strong ass woman.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Come yeah, a strong ass woman.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Now.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I think she just kind of knew how to like
plant plant a little seed for me to find it
on my own.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Which is what it should be like. You know.
Speaker 9 (15:42):
One of the things I read you talked about is
you want to you're are you already back down south
and left l A from the fire?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
No?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
No, we're in l A. Still, We're in the valley.
And I mean also I think we're we're doing okay.
We haven't seen like you know it was it was,
had seen a little bit of smoke in our area,
but we we haven't been home because of I don't
want to her breathing that thing, you know, but I
think I will say though, it's been so beautiful about
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that situation and my my prayers and prayers and prayers
and so much prayers is going into that. And what
makes me feel like I think us as a society's
I feel like we can all be so jaded and
so like tough and hardcore, but when when it's when
a tragedy happens, you see how like quick people are
to come together and love each other. And that that
(16:30):
community in LA is like coming together and everybody's donating
their time and their money and food and I don't
know I just I haven't seen I haven't seen a
place be that. You know, look, we really we we
we unite when everybody's going through something together.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad that that's happening.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
You know, it makes me reinstills my faith in humanity
that I know, when shit hits the fan, we all
do love each other, you know, at the core of
it all, we're all like, we love each.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
Other because I think, regardless of if you black, white,
gage s grade, rich, poor, when a mother nature hits
none of us which is all of the mercy of
mother nature, but at.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Least we look out for each other at the end
of the day. And I think that's what's so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Man.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
It's this is like instilled my fate again. And like
in society, I'm like, God, I love that we all
have just pulled together.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
And so, are you going to stay in la with
the baby because you're gonna move down south?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
You said, yeah, I mean, of course, I'm probably still
gonna have to like rent in l A. I think
I might still just rent, but I was gonna buy.
And it's just spooked me. I want to I want
to be able to like I might move back, you know,
maybe to Nashville where I could work and still be
like four hours from the parents if they want to
drive up and see a baby.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
But I still want my little boy to have like
a little or girl. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
But that money in the South, man, yeah, you know,
and your money goes far.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Baby had a little Southern accent, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I want to open doors and you.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Know afternoon.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
Ganging that's walking in behind you.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
You know.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
Donnelle Rowlins thinks that he's the reason that you're having
a baby.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
And he said that, y'all. I saw y'all on he
was on his podcast.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
He said, yeah, and you said you wanted to have
a kid, and he told you that you was gonna
have one.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
But man, and this, I can't tell you enough how
much like man when they say, don't meet your heroes,
they was right. Donelle Rollins is a piece of ships,
the nicest.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
He's the nicest person.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
You say about him.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Your initial statement, but no, keep the rest of it.
I want to hear that they'll be like, damn, bro,
I love you. That's what been one of the nicest
he sings me all the time. Man, He's like, he
sends me we just talked yesterday, and uh he's He's
my fucking.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Hero man Rollins.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Dude, he's such a nice.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You see when he was up here last time.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
No, but he was just doing uh what was ra you? Yeah,
I just missed him. We came in. I just missed
him too, and he sent me.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
He sent me he was on yesterday the day before
or something like that, and he just sent me him.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Whose Yeah, but man, he's.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Why you don't have Donell tattooed New Year cock?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
What you have?
Speaker 7 (19:18):
He had Da Chappelle tattooed near his cock. Yeah, don't.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Day right here? Man? Actually?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
What made you put date right there?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Though? I was just I don't have that much room laugh.
He sting to do like, hey look at my No
I did. I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
At the meeting like last year, he had like this
gravy party and I got he was doing this open
jam thing and it was cool and I got to
meet him and I was like, hey, look, uh, Dave,
I got a tattoo of you.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
He was like hell yeah, you know. We tapped up.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
About it and then I was like, I'm not going
to trial, you know, and show you my tattoo.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Of course I also know what like you can show
a picture.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Yeah, I don't know. Also then I don't want to.
I don't want to think what he thinks, and that
it's like too close to It's really not that close.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I'm not hanging that bad anyway. It's serious a couple
of years.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
So when a woman's down there, why are you satuated
with this day?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
What I'm saying is it's not It's not that close, dude,
I'm not working with that much.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Man.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
I thought that you said so now, yeah, he's but
I thought you said it was the night of the
MTV Awards that you found out. You figured you backtracked
it and thought that that was the night that you
conceived your kid.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah, the the v m as when we conceived. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
So I had nothing to do with done now for real.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
No, I didn't. After I I would.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I was in I was in Europe when I talked
to Donell and we were talking about it.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
That was before we knew we were pregnant.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Yeah, so I guess we might have been already pregnant
at that time. You know, we were pregnant at that time,
but I didn't find out until way later.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
We were playing.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Austin City Limits, which was I don't know when do
you guys know when we played October when we found out.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So I wanted, okay, the name Teddy Swims. We got it,
We got you, we got you, got you to guess well.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I just handed that to I was like, I was
like my mom would have no. No. I was just like, yes, man, no,
not on a dirt road, but I mean it was paved.
We had chickens, but in a fave we had chickens.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
We had chickens.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Name Teddy Swims. Where did that the name come from?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I've been called Teddy forever.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
My real name is Jaydon And I think as I
was like going to a church and waiting tables and stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
And uh it just old ladies. That was tough. Jayson
was real tough on them. They just Jamie James, you.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Know what, old ladies. Because for us, that's like Jane is.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I appreciate that. I don't really know how to responded.
Speaker 10 (22:14):
That it's not that hard to cheat.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
He heard, what kind of ladies?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Like, gosh, let me trying to avoid that.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Question, Teddy, which just you know that coin is you know,
I've just been teddy. You know, it's our little Teddy.
I just look like this without a beard for most
of my life and that yeah, yeah, for.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Someone who I massage sexually, someone who is gonna me sometimes.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I've been just been switching it up lately, trying to
think of new ones, like soft Winter in my shorts,
like I've been thinking of new ones.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Someone me sometimes, Like you mean, like so you turn
into this characters.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
No, I don't know. It was.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I first originally found it on like this this this forum,
which it was like it was like a every time
swim does this swim becomes like you know, it was
like it was like a drug forum I found it on.
I was like people were saying someone who wasn't me,
So it's like kind of like asking for a friend thing.
I guess we just like added an ass on it
swims like the plural form, and it was like my
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entire kind of group at the time. And then Teddy
kind of slapped in front of it and it just
eventually became Teddy swims like itself. Like it was it
just kind of stuck, you know, it was like.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Swims was our unit.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
And then it was like Teddy swims from like like
Teddy Frum swims kind of situation, and it was.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Like, you know, just like he would maybe have like a.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, like an asap Rocky and Asap Ferg that swims
was kind of our unit. So it was like Teddy swims,
and then then it just stuck, can you actually swim?
Speaker 7 (24:10):
No?
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Wow, Jim, I don't know how.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
To respond to that.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, I feel I feel like my face is
getting read like the first I.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Don't know why.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I don't know, I know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
You around your neck like mean something, represent something.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
No, this is just a cute next Okay, yeah, it's
like a yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 11 (24:42):
I feel like like he was saying, you're outside looks
so much different than what I thought you would look
like from when I first heard you. I'm just curious
as to like, what are some of your interests outside
of music.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I'm gonna have to get back to you that because
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I've been. I've really I've really been.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I've really been in this place where we've been discussing
like hobbies, you know, and I think of like I
would like to have some of.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Them, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I think it would be cool to have something outside this.
I think I think being a father is gonna be
the best thing that's ever happened to me.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Because of that, I feel.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Like I feel like I'm going to learn the how
to be like President in a different way, you know.
I feel currently there's I say this all the time,
there's like a nine year old on TikTok who's better
than at our job than any of the like to
do all of our job, you know. And so I
just always feel like I'm in this place of like,
go get it, go get it, somebody else is getting
if I'm not getting it. And even when I sit
down and watch a TV show, I'm like, I should
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be I should be going.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I should be going, I should be going.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
And I think I think what I'm really looking for
that baby teaching me is that when I'm watching TV
or shitting there, I know that being present with that
child's gonna be the most productive thing I could be
doing and.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Doing nothing at all with that child.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
And so I think I'm going to make my home
balance and my work balance all matter more in that way.
And so I've been thinking about hobbies, but I think
like I'm gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna pick up
hobbies at that baby likes like that baby wants to
play football.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
We're gonna be out there hit somebody. You know what
I'm saying. I'm gonna be a damn coach.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Baby, I'm gonna you gonna see me like with my
Netflix special, Like how like Snoop Dogg had.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
The whole league going. That's what I'm trying. I'm gonna
we're gonna we go be in that bitch that some
what you're gonna do like that. I want to. I
want to. I want to.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I want to be football coach, you know, or or
whatever it is, you know, whatever whatever happens.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Cheerleading coach. I don't say, you really think it's a boy. Yeah,
I hope.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
So I didn't mention cheerleading cheerlead too.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Yeah, yeah, I just I just I got two little
brothers that are eight and ten years younger, so I
don't have to white poop off the balls, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I think the first time around, i'd like a boy.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yeah, I'd like it a girl right now, Like disciplines
out the window for me.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I'm like, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am girl.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Yeah, wanted boys to but I ended up with all
four girls.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I can't wait, man, my yeah, my dad, I'm one
of four boys, and so he wants a girl, you know, And.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Were you a hope in a path life?
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Like I was literally about were you a hope?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Like did you swim a lot the past life?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I was like maybe I was like.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
A woman now where you know?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I was?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I was always, I mean I had my fun, like
like after my last relationship before this one. It was
the first time I was like single and famous, and
I was like, this is cool. I had my little
I swim down a little bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
But yeah, it's cool. I love you though, baby, But
but I never I was. I was.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I was like a serial dater for a long time
in my life, you know what I mean, like being
loved and and and doing the same thing for a
long time.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
But I did have my fun before, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Because they say, if you're a wope, you can't have girl. Yeah,
you can only have a girl. That's why he has
four girls.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
You got girls too, and mid all right, I was
very very sweet.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
How did you know that your girlfriend right now was
the one? Because you met her. You met her at
a show, right, she came to one of the shows.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Absolutely, babe, you she's the one.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
You see that girl, I've seen her if you're dating
and like, what was the thing?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
It was?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
It like you saw her and you just knew.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I had been listening for music for a while too.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
So my my dear friend Arsenior Archer, he's a producer.
We went to high school together, and he's like, man,
he came to my studio a couple of years ago.
I was like, hey, man, I want to show you
this girl I've been working with it. I listened to
her song they've made. I don't think the song ever
came out and I looked up and I.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Was like, whoa.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
She was saw her?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
No, like I love you. And then a couple of
years later, I'm going back to Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
She was living Atlanta at the time, and her.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Roommate was like a fan.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
She was like, Hey, my roommate, you know, wants to
come to the show. We'd love to come to show.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Come see you. I was like, please come to the show.
I would love to have you. I'll put you on
the guest listen.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
She came and shut and I said, you know, bold
up a plate o snake and.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Like, what you say?
Speaker 7 (29:22):
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Teddy?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Shot? Hi? How are you?
Speaker 7 (29:26):
And that was Hi? I love you immediately?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Aady, yeah, that's my first thing. I message a couple
of years before that said shot, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Like, I don't know you knew? You knew when you
saw her?
Speaker 6 (29:43):
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
So I think I think it's so important dude, to
like and in relationships with anybody. Navigating relationships. Are just
not the person to waste time with relationships. I think
it's like even even with like even if if me
and this person and we're both single, I'm just like, okay,
let's get this. Let's just clear the air out. Do
you find me attractive? I find you attractive? Do we
do anything about that? Are we going to be friends?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
You know?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Like, let's just navigate this before we're both thinking about
it and I'm going home and I'm beating off and
then I'm thinking about you.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
But we're spposed to be best friends. And you know
what I'm saying, let's not do all this. That's not
let's not play. You know, I'm navigating conversation.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
You know, I think I think women appreciate that. I mean,
I don't. I don't know if it was that straightforward,
but I think.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
But I didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
If you think about it as I.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Didn't say that, I can say that's that's that's I'm
saying just as an example of not something I would say,
but as as as definitely appreciated, and.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
If not, then that's cool.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
We can both we can both acknowledge that we're attractive
and also be pals, you know, the we're adults here.
We can we can navigate relationships with beautiful women, you know.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
Can I can we talk about some of this music
on this new album?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I'd love to you to leave it about four minutes.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
I'm not don't check the text. You should have shut
up not Your man is a very vulnerable record.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Have you ever really felt like you gave everything to
a woman and it wasn't enough?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah? Hell yeah, man. I I mean, I was.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
I was in a place where I think it was
important to start this one out like that. Because I was,
I would have wrote this forever.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
I was. I was in a place with somebody where
my I know it's hard.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I don't want to talk about her in a way
that because I now, as I've grown and healed and
moved on, it's I I thank her for for what
we went through, you know, and I'm grateful for that
time and space that we had together that that pay.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
But I was at the place here where I felt
like I.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Was given everything and and my my feelings in my
I was not validated or it was not enough, or
I was crazy to feeling this way, or I was.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
It was it was abusive situation. I don't know. I
don't want to I don't want to say it.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Oh both man. Physically she was she was just not good.
She was not a good person, and I don't you know,
I'll never say it. I hope the best for her
now and I don't want to say that.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You know. It's a it's a tough thing to talk about,
like I won the best for her.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
But yeah, it was a very tough thing to try
to try to heal somebody, try to make space for
someone to heal, try to give somebody everything and them
to not You would think you would think if you
had a if you had a passion, I'll just make
it like this, you had a passion in your life,
and you had somebody in your life that says you
could quit your job and just focus on your passion.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I'll take care of the rest. You got it, and
you don't do anything with your life. But you just
go on just eat za eggs all day and lay
around and blame.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Somebody for your shortcomings when you you had the opportunity
to follow your dream and somebody that would support you
with your dreams, and you'd be like so surprised to
see if somebody had the opportunity to follow their dreams
and they had everything taken care of. How many people
would be like, if everything's taken care of, I don't
gonna do shit anymore, you know. And and you can't.
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You can't put ambition and drive into somebody.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
You can't. You can't, you can't heal nobody, you can't
save nobody. And I've started to go on that tangent.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
But from that situation, do you feel like you no
longer and able because it's like, though you want to
do something out of love to better somebody, sometimes it's
to their own detriment.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Yeah, I think I think I Yeah, I think it's
a It was an enabling at the end of the day,
you know, I was doing something to help someone become
but I think at the end of the day, I
was enabling somebody to do nothing, and if that was
inside of them, I was enabling that. And I think
it's a common pattern, you know. But uh, I yes,
I'm trying to heal and learn to not see somebody
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wants to be this and or see what somebody for
who see somebody for who they are and not who
I want them to be or think they should be.
Speaker 11 (33:56):
That's even outside of relationships, Like, how are you handling
just those type of boundaries now.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
You're uh, we're you know, we're working on boundaries at all.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I'm learning those. Yeah, that's a huge step for me.
Just boundaries is in general, it's it's a it's a
it's a it's a full time job just navigating having them,
you know.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
So do you feel guilty when you're like, no, I can't.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
Yes, yeah, I mean I can tell you got a
big heart. But people will take advantage of hell.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Yeah, And I'm also grateful to be I don't want
to say I'm grateful be taking advantage of that.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I'm grateful to be available.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
You know, everybody's gonna use you, but don't let people
misuse you a man.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, I heard this advice from this always meet
and greet one time and this beautiful this lady, she
says a therapist. She said, the way people the way
people will treat you as a reflection of the way
they see you. You know, the way people treat you
as a reflection of the way they see the way
you let people treat you as a reflection the way
you see yourself. And that beautiful And it's stuck with me. Man,
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it's such as I'm learning boundaries.
Speaker 9 (35:01):
Yes, I have a last question for you. In meeting
you and just hearing you talk about first of all,
it's just such a nice person. I was reading this
interview you talked about because your girlfriend's black, and you
talked about like when you guys are in the South,
you get like looks from people and like it bothers
you because love should be love. How do you guys,
now you're about to bring a baby into the world.
(35:22):
You're so positive. She seems so amazing, but the world
is not always like that, Like what's your Like, how
do you defeat that? Because you're really a really nice person,
Like it breaks my heart.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
I mean, you know, thinking about that, I hate, I
hate how much she's go through and she's you know,
so her her dad's black and her mom's white. So
she she's she's gone through this, like tells me about
stuff all the time, about like, you know, how she
felt not wide enough or not blacking up, and how
much her her world in her life has been such
(35:52):
a I guess, like a juxtaposition in both sides, you know,
feeling like she wasn't quite accepted by either side, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
And so there is not a story.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I won't I won't tell you her story because she's
better saying it than I will.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I'll never tell you her story. But I see how like.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
How beautiful she is and and and how how I
guess how like elegant she navigates being who she is.
She's the most incredible human being I've ever met.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
Man for you all to talk to. I love Lamar
Johnson Like.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Black and White.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
The song of Money Loan that titles is a little
on the nose, don't you.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Think, Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Think I think I think that the point of it
was kind of the the.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
I think to the core of love in itself is
black and white, like it's a it's a black and
white issue.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Love is love.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
And not love is not love and loving, whether if
it's a person of a different color, shape, eyes, uh, sexuality,
same sex, whatever it is. I think that the thing
was trying to say that we no matter what, we
could come from different worlds. It's it's a true, I
guess Romeo and Juliette story, you know, kind of is
the basis of it is that like you know, we
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we come from different places, we come from different cultures,
we have different things.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
But when you're in love, man, love is love and
and that should be enough.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
And that's really there ain't nothing right about that, man,
It's just love.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
You know, Love is love. Maybe you know I.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Love that record and it's a good stamp because you know,
money Long recently went viral for saying she's not writing
soulful songs for white artists.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I did not. I'm glad I got that one before.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
She said exactly.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
To cut off.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
But that shows how much your respects to you.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Maybe she hates that song and that's why she said.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
She's I done fucking Teddy man, I'll not doing that again.
When did she do that song with that long did
you do that a while ago?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, we did it. It's had to be a few
months ago now.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
My dear friend Jeff Kitty and Mickey Echo was a
part of it with us too, and we we like
started working on it, and I remember, uh, Jeff Kitty
as has been working with Money for long years and years,
and he's like, man, should we see if if Mornie
wants to do this song with I was like, I mean, yeah,
that's like that's we'd kind of like to do a
record like this.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
We would kind of need that, you know.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I would be so stoked that she'd be willing to
because I knew what I kind of wanted to say.
But also I can't say that, you know without having
money helped me say that, you know, but also without
like relying too much, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I think I needed to.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
We needed to say that with you know, together, and
so I'm just grateful she took that opportunity to say,
I see what you're trying to say. I have you
say that, you know, and and said it with me,
And I think I'm so grateful for her because Money's
just a legend.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Man, what a bad badass.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
You also said you wanted to meet one of your
musical idols, were Stevie Wonder You ever get an opportunity.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Yeah, you know, we haven't met in person, but yeah, yeah,
and I got I got a chance to do a
record with him too. So, uh, I think he's gonna
put out on his next record.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I hope.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
So, I hope it's gonna come out. I'm really excited.
It's it's a good record. It's called Politics Player and
uh yeah, which is such.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
An honor to be on Steve Wonder record. But yeah,
he did FaceTime. I'll tell you that. It's so funny. Man,
he FaceTime. Yeah. And here's the thing. Here's the thing.
He is actually blond, y'all. He this is true life.
He was blond.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
I'm saying people say it. People, there's a conspiracy that
he's not.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Look, I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
I was on the phone with this I was facetiming
this man and he said, he turned this, he put
the camera around. He said, this is my son over here,
and then he said I'm over here today He's pulled
and he said, and this is my niece. And then
he had he had phone facing her and for the
next ten minutes of the conversation.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
I look as far as you are. I looked at
his niece.
Speaker 10 (40:10):
And he.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Was holding up he was holding the camera like he
was talking like he don't all season.
Speaker 10 (40:18):
I did not have the heart's.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Blind she was.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
She was sitting there.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Blind. She was sitting there texts on her phone.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
I didn't have the hard to say, hey, I can't
see you. Well, you know, my dumb ass man, my
dumb that's the reason he called me because I was
in Tokyo. I was in Tokyo and I had found
I had found my favorite album, all time, best album
ever Songs in the Key Live. I found a CD
of it. It was a Tokyo version of it, like
the Japanese version of it, and my dumb ass taxing
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him a picture of it, Oh my goodness, like an idiot,
like he was gonna see it right right, Like I
just checked him.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
That's what I found, Bro.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
I found bro.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Saying his face time. So I was like se and
my fucking dumbass too, was like you give a touch.
He's definitely he didn't see it.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
I just just to put all those things to rest, shut.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Down It's crazy.
Speaker 9 (41:15):
All these years black people have been trying to figure
this out and you are the one that solved the problem.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
I just I just I just know.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
I was looking at his knees about fifteen minutes against bemeditated.
Speaker 8 (41:28):
You gotta go for him because you gotta go do elbows, bro, Yeah,
you gotta.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
You gotta come back, man, I got thanks for the
record too.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Let's play the what you want to be even Real?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
You play that one?
Speaker 7 (41:38):
Yeah, man, he got joints that she got it with
Coco Jones and Glorilla. I like funeral funerals.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Really, thank you.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
What you want to hear?
Speaker 7 (41:46):
Hamil to the heart is my joint though.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Oh yeah, no way, thank you.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
I mean yeah, put it on forgive me on man,
my dog brother investing the business man.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
There you have it, any swim ye.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Thank you so much, laughing at me. I'm honored to
be here, truly. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Let's get into the record are you even Real? Feature
and give you on It's the Breakfast Club, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
The Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The breakfast Club warning everybody is t J n Vy
Jess hilarious, charlamage, the guy we are the breakfast club
Ess is out today.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Lauren's holding it down.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And of course we got our niece, Nola Hill, and
we got a special guest in the building.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Brother, Teddy Swims.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Hang man, swim.
Speaker 5 (00:18):
I'm honored here, man, I'm fine, happy to have you,
really really excited dude.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
We we did.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Our album lease party last night though, so uh you
know again, excuse my drinking for you.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Don't drinking early in the morning.
Speaker 6 (00:33):
You see that one over lest you be on the way?
Speaker 7 (00:38):
What all right?
Speaker 6 (00:39):
Why out here telling my business?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
How about you say?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I was like, we need to drink.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well, congratulated drinking a pregnant woman?
Speaker 7 (00:51):
How you feel?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
First of all, stop, I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Have you got a man's gonna get pregnant without a man?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Oh god, it's read the whole situation. Let's start. Let's start.
Can we go back to the guys from my baby
all the way? Yeah? I have one other way? Absolutely, Yeah,
you're drinking with a pregnant man's.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Early tell us about yourself, Teddy.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Man, that's so loaded.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Just who are you?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I'm my daddy's son.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
That's about it really.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
From I'm from Georgia, from from about thirty minutes east
of Atlanta and Connors, Georgia, Dale County, and you know,
singing songs and I'm a good, good good boy.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
It was very soulful, soulful voice. Did you grow up
in the church.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Yeah, so my granddad was a Pentecostal pastor. I didn't
grow up singing in the church a lot, but I
you know, I definitely grew up with I guess you know,
fire and brimstone for sure, man with the with the
fear of God.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And you're afraid to sind Oh no, no, not not
these days.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
I mean, but I'm just talking about like back in
the day, it was like a very.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Yeah yeah, you know, like what like like girls don't
get haircuts, you know, girls wear skirts, men wear jeans
like that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It was really real kind of tight. And I mean
I'm very fortunate.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I guess I feel like I still subscribe to so
many of the beliefs. I mean, not the beliefs, but
the like the principles of you know, even the beliefs
aren't there.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I do love that my my granddad was.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
As I was growing up with my granddad, he was
he was like, we wouldn't even go to restaurants that
would have a bar in the restaurant, you know. And
not that he ever had a problem drinking, but it
was just he stood on his belief so much. The
thing that I was always with him was that I
didn't subscribe to the idea that like telling people that
they're wrong and this is the only way to believe something.
I remember he looked at other churches and be like,
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I think that.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
The only way he believed it was right. I remember.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I remember the first time I sang at his church.
I might have been seventeen or sixteen or something, and I.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Remember him saying, like coming to me and talking to
me and doing like you know, I.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Want you saying at the church, Bud, But man, all
these kids are like break dancing and carrying on for
the Lord.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And I was like, yo, pop, like nobody's broke dance
since like my.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
My mom was the child, and if they want to
break dance for the Lord, like let him break dance
for the Lord.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
You know. He was he was very you know, stern,
like just by the buck. If it wasn't in the Bible,
then it was a sin, you know what I mean? Yeah,
hell yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
But my mom was worse than I was. I remember,
I remember getting in trouble for all sorts of shit
and be like, I'm like, I'm not doing any of that.
She was thought I was doing all sorts of mess.
And I mean, but she was a passers kid. My
mother was the But listen, I.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Wanted to you know, when you talk about rebellious, you
started off playing football, all right, So yes, you was.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Her family was a big football family.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So what got you from football to singing.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
My dear friend? Yeah yeah, yeah you play Yeah, and
an offensive offensive guard as well. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
And but I mean I just five foot seven. Wasn't
really happening, you know, I just.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
High school school at the time.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, but I've been.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Five foot seven since I was in eighth grade, and
so I thought they thought I was gonna be big,
you know, and then it just it didn't happen. I
started shooting up to six foot two and three and
whooped my ass off the line.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
What got you into art?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Like my differend Jesse, who still plays with me. I've
known him since I was a little kid.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
His dad was always in bands and stuff and and
and so we we started trying to experiment and play
music and stuff. And his older sister was a musical
theater and got us in the musical theater. And I
just kind of fell in love with singing, and you know,
I can I I was so I was hooked. I
was hooked that singing has changed my life. I wasn't
good always, but I fell in love with it, you know.
(04:53):
And I remember telling my mom that I was I
was gonna not do football anymore and I was gonna sing.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
And she was so so hurt, like brought out all
my memorabilia, like I can't believe you do this to us.
We would playing football, you know.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
And I remember my first little we did this show
called Damn Yankees. I did like two lines in it,
I think, and uh I after I got done, I
come off stage and she was like, I'm so sorry, baby,
this is where you belong rarely.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
You are a star, you know. I did like two lines,
you know, but it was what do you mean by you.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Weren't always good at it? Like, how do you you
so we were so bad at it.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
You know he was in a group.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Well no, just me and my buddy Jesse. He still
plays guitar rights and he plays guitar in my band still.
And we we used to just always, you know, as
we were learning and trying to build bands together and
do it as kids. You know, we just were really bad.
You know, we sucked, like we're just not good, like
you can still fine. Actually on YouTube. I was a
senior in high school. My first band, Heroic Bear, is
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still on YouTube, our our first little EP. And I
was in like a metalcore band at the time, and
so you could still hear me like screaming away and
like sing and if you definitely don't pull it up
now in front of me. I'm just saying, you know,
because I love a cringe. But if you want to
hear it, if you hear it, dude, you're gonna be.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Like, Okay, yeah you got good.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Did you get lessons or did you practice or how
did you just so good?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well? I think I was so lucky.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
I mean I was in theater, you know, and I
had a lot of good friends and they were singing.
But I think I think the biggest thing was growing
up in the like when the YouTube era was first
kind of starting, you know, and if I had questions
or if I wanted to know how to sing, there
was always a live version of singer singing, you know,
so like I could I could watch like live videos of.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
How how is how are they moving their throat, how
are they moving their jaws? How are they second?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
You know, I could I could just sit there and
watch YouTube videos and see people singing live, you know,
like I remember I was a credit recovery watching David,
you know, like singing Craig David singing like and Credit Recovery.
I would pull up like a YouTube proxy and just
have it behind the video and just like listen to
Craig David just I'm walking away. I could see, I could,
I could listen to buy videos and watch their them play,
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you know, I'm singing.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
It was like, do you.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Think you like, I guess saw somebody like Craig David
and like mimic Tim and that's how you found your voice?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Oh totally yeah, yeah, we you know, I mean some
of the best man, some of the best that ever
did it. Marvin Gaye watching I was just reading man
listening to al Green, you know this, this is like
the these are.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I mean, it doesn't get How do you figure.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Out what you're like your warm spot was going to be?
Speaker 9 (07:34):
Even genre wise because you're listed as a multi genre vocalist,
people put you in R and B, country.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Rock and pop.
Speaker 9 (07:40):
So how did you At what point did you know like, Okay,
it's going to be a mixture of all this or
did you try different things?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I think I think I was just I love I
love this instrument so much. You know this this I was.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
I was so hooked on this instrument, and so whatever
it felt like it would would work, I'd be I'm
such a fan of this instrument. Yeah, if I hear
or scream or or or saying or anybody doing anything
with their mouth that I don't know how to do,
I'm I don't mean it like that.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Know what you mean?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
He stop?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
He just can't stop. This is him.
Speaker 10 (08:13):
Don't do that.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I mean we're just getting started.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
He likes it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Keep going teddy.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Okay, see how that sounds that you said it.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I'm laughing to no.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
So I mean I just fell in love with the instrument,
and I was like, I want to I want to
know how to do I want to know how to
access that. You know, however people do it, whether it's screaming,
whether it's opera, whether it's whatever it is. I want
to be able to do that. I want to I'm
so in.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Love with this this thing.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
We're so capable of expressing emotion and lending you know,
life stories that way, and I just fell in love with.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
The science to it that I think people don't respect.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
That's what I know you you're a real artist, just
the fact that you keep calling your vocal and instrument Hell.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Yeah, man, it's it's it's such a muscle that and
I think it's the only instrument that you can kind
of take everywhere with you and practice at all times,
you know. But it's also it's bound to you by
your like your decisions or your like, uh travel, your
sickness or whatever's going on.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
It's it's always it's always ever changing and bound to
what you know, what you did last night and wake
it up at nine point thirty and sounded like shit
the next day, you know, So it's it's always bound
to you. And I think I think, I think, I
think it's still like one thing in the world. That
is like your thumbprint on the world.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You know, your your voice is is only yours.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
You can you could with a guitar, or you could
take the same amp, play the same lick with the
same exact guitar and the same pedal and sound the same.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But with your voice, it's.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Like only you have that, you know, and it's such
a special thing. And your circumstance and your your heartbreak
and all that stuff is all a part of something
that makes you so uniquely you.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And then you started doing these covers, right, and you
started covering songs, and then you did one cover that
started shooting up crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Oh, I think Shania Twain, I'm still the one was
our like, that was the one that really kind of
went crazy for us.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That was, you know, I love.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
My mama and my mama loved Shannaa Twain when I
was coming up. I loved Shania Twain too. That that
was that was a real life changing one for us
and I our first one we started out with was
because June twenty fifth of twenty nineteen was the first
time I never even expected doing covers, you know, online
and and uh, we had found like the we found
(10:33):
the the uh stems of Rock with You online and
Michael Jackson. Yeah, and so it was it was ten
years right after he passed. It was this ten year anniversary,
and so I said, well, we should just do Rock
with You by Michael Jackson used to pay homage to
him and for the you know, and then and we
uploaded it and it started doing well, and was like, man,
we should just keep this.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I guess this cover train is kind of going. So
we kept on for.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
You know, the next few months, and I think, I think,
I think the beautiful thing about starting with with Rock
with You it started getting you know, like this said.
The first day we woke up, we had like ten
thousand views and it was so life changing for us.
We like the boys, we're getting a hammered. This is sick.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
And uh, I think I think it was.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
It was such a weird thing because once it hit
like this this critical mass of like maybe five hundred
thousand views. I think people were looking at it and
seeing the way I look and then seeing the rock
with You, you know, and saying rock with You by Michael
Jackson and me and and I'm you know, looking like
an absolute redneck and saying like, either this is hilarious
or this is actually really good. And I think for
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our benefit it was it was kind of both, you know,
because just the fact that I was singing that song
but doing it well was just you know, kind of
funny and surprisingly good.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
The first time I got put on you, it was
actually in the barbershop because it was on YouTube and
he had you playing, and I'm like, that is coming
out of that, you know what.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I think that's a special thing for me.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
And I mean it is I almost want to say
it's an think, but it is one of those things
that gets you attention.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah, I think I think there.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
I think there has been a I think there's been
something that we have been able to lean in that
that it doesn't look like what it you know, art
doesn't look like what it sounds like, right, And I
think that's been something that's been so beautiful for for me,
is to be able to have such a mode of
expressive voice and look like I make fart jokes, you know,
and yeah, you know, because I know we all know
(12:26):
what heartbreak is like and we all think farts a funny,
you know, and that's that's just kind of my m O.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
And it's not about what comes out you that's funny
nowadays about what.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Can make you funny.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Kids make you look funny too, Curious curious.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
That's why I got worried about you.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
You tried everything with therapy.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Well, I've tried therapy.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Now there's uh, I've I'm you know, even as we're
getting ready to o a kid, me and my girls
have been doing even couples therapy too, which has been
so wonderful and making sure we're coming in and having
this child and the most healed communicative communicative good D
what is the word?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
You know? Uh?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, And we're trying to make sure we're doing it
separately and and couples therapy and bringing bringing this baby
in the you know, the right way and hopefully and well,
I mean we're still gonna have baggage, of course, but
most healed, safest environment possible. But I think I think
name of the album that was was kind of to
have that conversation and with myself, to get myself to go.
(13:40):
I think there's just like been in generations past and
even still there's this like connotation on therapy that we're like,
so I know, we're not we're not allowed to we're
not allowed to go to that, or we're not allowed
to share our feelings or emotions. Yeah, you know, And
and I just it's been life changing for me. And
I did have even this in my brain and I
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was like, I'm not crazy. I don't need that'sh it,
you know. I had this for so long that I
was like, I know myself, I don't need nobody to
tell me what's wrong with me, you know. And I
feel like I feel like once I got it to
it, it was so much different than I thought it would
be too. And I feel like there was something beautiful
about having that first album and not trying it and
being in a place of turmoil on heartbreak with somebody
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that was made me feel like my feelings were invalid
or not allowed to have and and having this part
two coming out and being this thing of I've tried therapy,
I'm back in love, I'm having a child. I've got
some level of success in this and you know, we
on the back of heartbreak, it does get better on
the other side, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
And I'm just so grateful.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
For Was it was you going to therapy?
Speaker 9 (14:43):
Was that pushed on you, not pushed on you, but
did your girlfriend kind of like influence you to do.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
That or something you want.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I've been, I've been, you know again, I was, I was,
I was. The plan was to have tried therapy after
I put out the record. It was like kind of
my promise to myself that that the first one, like
I'm going to go to therapy. And I did push
it off for a long time. But I think I
think when we first found out we were kind of pregnant,
she was like, you know what we should do?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
We should do.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
It was never to push on a therapy, like to
me to have my own therapy, but I think I.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Think she's such a wonderful person.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I think she was just like, we should do therapy
together as like a couple of therapies, so we make
sure we bring our kid in. And it kind of
once I felt how that was, I was like, you,
I should do some therapy by myself, do you And
she's like, I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
So it was never kind of pushed.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
It was kind of like I think she planted little
seeds for me to man strong ass woman.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Come yeah, a strong ass woman.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Now.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I think she just kind of knew how to like
plant plant a little seed for me to find it
on my own.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Which is what it should be like. You know.
Speaker 9 (15:42):
One of the things I read you talked about is
you want to you're are you already back down south
and left l A from the fire?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
No?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
No, we're in l A. Still, We're in the valley.
And I mean also I think we're we're doing okay.
We haven't seen like you know it was it was,
had seen a little bit of smoke in our area,
but we we haven't been home because of I don't
want to her breathing that thing, you know, but I
think I will say though, it's been so beautiful about
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that situation and my my prayers and prayers and prayers
and so much prayers is going into that. And what
makes me feel like I think us as a society's
I feel like we can all be so jaded and
so like tough and hardcore, but when when it's when
a tragedy happens, you see how like quick people are
to come together and love each other. And that that
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community in LA is like coming together and everybody's donating
their time and their money and food and I don't
know I just I haven't seen I haven't seen a
place be that. You know, look, we really we we
we unite when everybody's going through something together.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad that that's happening.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
You know, it makes me reinstills my faith in humanity
that I know, when shit hits the fan, we all
do love each other, you know, at the core of
it all, we're all like, we love each.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
Other because I think, regardless of if you black, white,
gage s grade, rich, poor, when a mother nature hits
none of us which is all of the mercy of
mother nature, but at.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Least we look out for each other at the end
of the day. And I think that's what's so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Man.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
It's this is like instilled my fate again. And like
in society, I'm like, God, I love that we all
have just pulled together.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
And so, are you going to stay in la with
the baby because you're gonna move down south?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
You said, yeah, I mean, of course, I'm probably still
gonna have to like rent in l A. I think
I might still just rent, but I was gonna buy.
And it's just spooked me. I want to I want
to be able to like I might move back, you know,
maybe to Nashville where I could work and still be
like four hours from the parents if they want to
drive up and see a baby.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
But I still want my little boy to have like
a little or girl. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
But that money in the South, man, yeah, you know,
and your money goes far.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Baby had a little Southern accent, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I want to open doors and you.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Know afternoon.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
Ganging that's walking in behind you.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
You know.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
Donnelle Rowlins thinks that he's the reason that you're having
a baby.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
And he said that, y'all. I saw y'all on he
was on his podcast.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
He said, yeah, and you said you wanted to have
a kid, and he told you that you was gonna
have one.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
But man, and this, I can't tell you enough how
much like man when they say, don't meet your heroes,
they was right. Donelle Rollins is a piece of ships,
the nicest.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
He's the nicest person.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
You say about him.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Your initial statement, but no, keep the rest of it.
I want to hear that they'll be like, damn, bro,
I love you. That's what been one of the nicest
he sings me all the time. Man, He's like, he
sends me we just talked yesterday, and uh he's He's
my fucking.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Hero man Rollins.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Dude, he's such a nice.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You see when he was up here last time.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
No, but he was just doing uh what was ra you? Yeah,
I just missed him. We came in. I just missed
him too, and he sent me.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
He sent me he was on yesterday the day before
or something like that, and he just sent me him.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Whose Yeah, but man, he's.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Why you don't have Donell tattooed New Year cock?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
What you have?
Speaker 7 (19:18):
He had Da Chappelle tattooed near his cock. Yeah, don't.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Day right here? Man? Actually?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
What made you put date right there?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Though? I was just I don't have that much room laugh.
He sting to do like, hey look at my No
I did. I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
At the meeting like last year, he had like this
gravy party and I got he was doing this open
jam thing and it was cool and I got to
meet him and I was like, hey, look, uh, Dave,
I got a tattoo of you.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
He was like hell yeah, you know. We tapped up.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
About it and then I was like, I'm not going
to trial, you know, and show you my tattoo.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Of course I also know what like you can show
a picture.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Yeah, I don't know. Also then I don't want to.
I don't want to think what he thinks, and that
it's like too close to It's really not that close.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I'm not hanging that bad anyway. It's serious a couple
of years.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
So when a woman's down there, why are you satuated
with this day?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
What I'm saying is it's not It's not that close, dude,
I'm not working with that much.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Man.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
I thought that you said so now, yeah, he's but
I thought you said it was the night of the
MTV Awards that you found out. You figured you backtracked
it and thought that that was the night that you
conceived your kid.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah, the the v m as when we conceived. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
So I had nothing to do with done now for real.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
No, I didn't. After I I would.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I was in I was in Europe when I talked
to Donell and we were talking about it.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
That was before we knew we were pregnant.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Yeah, so I guess we might have been already pregnant
at that time. You know, we were pregnant at that time,
but I didn't find out until way later.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
We were playing.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Austin City Limits, which was I don't know when do
you guys know when we played October when we found out.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So I wanted, okay, the name Teddy Swims. We got it,
We got you, we got you, got you to guess well.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I just handed that to I was like, I was
like my mom would have no. No. I was just like, yes, man, no,
not on a dirt road, but I mean it was paved.
We had chickens, but in a fave we had chickens.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
We had chickens.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Name Teddy Swims. Where did that the name come from?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I've been called Teddy forever.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
My real name is Jaydon And I think as I
was like going to a church and waiting tables and stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
And uh it just old ladies. That was tough. Jayson
was real tough on them. They just Jamie James, you.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Know what, old ladies. Because for us, that's like Jane is.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I appreciate that. I don't really know how to responded.
Speaker 10 (22:14):
That it's not that hard to cheat.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
He heard, what kind of ladies?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Like, gosh, let me trying to avoid that.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Question, Teddy, which just you know that coin is you know,
I've just been teddy. You know, it's our little Teddy.
I just look like this without a beard for most
of my life and that yeah, yeah, for.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Someone who I massage sexually, someone who is gonna me sometimes.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I've been just been switching it up lately, trying to
think of new ones, like soft Winter in my shorts,
like I've been thinking of new ones.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Someone me sometimes, Like you mean, like so you turn
into this characters.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
No, I don't know. It was.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I first originally found it on like this this this forum,
which it was like it was like a every time
swim does this swim becomes like you know, it was
like it was like a drug forum I found it on.
I was like people were saying someone who wasn't me,
So it's like kind of like asking for a friend thing.
I guess we just like added an ass on it
swims like the plural form, and it was like my
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entire kind of group at the time. And then Teddy
kind of slapped in front of it and it just
eventually became Teddy swims like itself. Like it was it
just kind of stuck, you know, it was like.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Swims was our unit.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
And then it was like Teddy swims from like like
Teddy Frum swims kind of situation, and it was.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Like, you know, just like he would maybe have like a.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, like an asap Rocky and Asap Ferg that swims
was kind of our unit. So it was like Teddy swims,
and then then it just stuck, can you actually swim?
Speaker 7 (24:10):
No?
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Wow, Jim, I don't know how.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
To respond to that.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, I feel I feel like my face is
getting read like the first I.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Don't know why.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I don't know, I know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
You around your neck like mean something, represent something.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
No, this is just a cute next Okay, yeah, it's
like a yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 11 (24:42):
I feel like like he was saying, you're outside looks
so much different than what I thought you would look
like from when I first heard you. I'm just curious
as to like, what are some of your interests outside
of music.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I'm gonna have to get back to you that because
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I've been. I've really I've really been.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I've really been in this place where we've been discussing
like hobbies, you know, and I think of like I
would like to have some of.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Them, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I think it would be cool to have something outside this.
I think I think being a father is gonna be
the best thing that's ever happened to me.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Because of that, I feel.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Like I feel like I'm going to learn the how
to be like President in a different way, you know.
I feel currently there's I say this all the time,
there's like a nine year old on TikTok who's better
than at our job than any of the like to
do all of our job, you know. And so I
just always feel like I'm in this place of like,
go get it, go get it, somebody else is getting
if I'm not getting it. And even when I sit
down and watch a TV show, I'm like, I should
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be I should be going.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I should be going, I should be going.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
And I think I think what I'm really looking for
that baby teaching me is that when I'm watching TV
or shitting there, I know that being present with that
child's gonna be the most productive thing I could be
doing and.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Doing nothing at all with that child.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
And so I think I'm going to make my home
balance and my work balance all matter more in that way.
And so I've been thinking about hobbies, but I think
like I'm gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna pick up
hobbies at that baby likes like that baby wants to
play football.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
We're gonna be out there hit somebody. You know what
I'm saying. I'm gonna be a damn coach.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Baby, I'm gonna you gonna see me like with my
Netflix special, Like how like Snoop Dogg had.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
The whole league going. That's what I'm trying. I'm gonna
we're gonna we go be in that bitch that some
what you're gonna do like that. I want to. I
want to. I want to.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I want to be football coach, you know, or or
whatever it is, you know, whatever whatever happens.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Cheerleading coach. I don't say, you really think it's a boy. Yeah,
I hope.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
So I didn't mention cheerleading cheerlead too.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Yeah, yeah, I just I just I got two little
brothers that are eight and ten years younger, so I
don't have to white poop off the balls, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I think the first time around, i'd like a boy.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yeah, I'd like it a girl right now, Like disciplines
out the window for me.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I'm like, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am girl.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Yeah, wanted boys to but I ended up with all
four girls.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I can't wait, man, my yeah, my dad, I'm one
of four boys, and so he wants a girl, you know, And.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Were you a hope in a path life?
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Like I was literally about were you a hope?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Like did you swim a lot the past life?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I was like maybe I was like.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
A woman now where you know?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I was?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I was always, I mean I had my fun, like
like after my last relationship before this one. It was
the first time I was like single and famous, and
I was like, this is cool. I had my little
I swim down a little bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
But yeah, it's cool. I love you though, baby, But
but I never I was. I was.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I was like a serial dater for a long time
in my life, you know what I mean, like being
loved and and and doing the same thing for a
long time.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
But I did have my fun before, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Because they say, if you're a wope, you can't have girl. Yeah,
you can only have a girl. That's why he has
four girls.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
You got girls too, and mid all right, I was
very very sweet.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
How did you know that your girlfriend right now was
the one? Because you met her. You met her at
a show, right, she came to one of the shows.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Absolutely, babe, you she's the one.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
You see that girl, I've seen her if you're dating
and like, what was the thing?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
It was?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
It like you saw her and you just knew.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I had been listening for music for a while too.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
So my my dear friend Arsenior Archer, he's a producer.
We went to high school together, and he's like, man,
he came to my studio a couple of years ago.
I was like, hey, man, I want to show you
this girl I've been working with it. I listened to
her song they've made. I don't think the song ever
came out and I looked up and I.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Was like, whoa.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
She was saw her?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
No, like I love you. And then a couple of
years later, I'm going back to Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
She was living Atlanta at the time, and her.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Roommate was like a fan.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
She was like, Hey, my roommate, you know, wants to
come to the show. We'd love to come to show.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Come see you. I was like, please come to the show.
I would love to have you. I'll put you on
the guest listen.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
She came and shut and I said, you know, bold
up a plate o snake and.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Like, what you say?
Speaker 7 (29:22):
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Teddy?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Shot? Hi? How are you?
Speaker 7 (29:26):
And that was Hi? I love you immediately?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Aady, yeah, that's my first thing. I message a couple
of years before that said shot, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Like, I don't know you knew? You knew when you
saw her?
Speaker 6 (29:43):
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
So I think I think it's so important dude, to
like and in relationships with anybody. Navigating relationships. Are just
not the person to waste time with relationships. I think
it's like even even with like even if if me
and this person and we're both single, I'm just like, okay,
let's get this. Let's just clear the air out. Do
you find me attractive? I find you attractive? Do we
do anything about that? Are we going to be friends?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
You know?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Like, let's just navigate this before we're both thinking about
it and I'm going home and I'm beating off and
then I'm thinking about you.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
But we're spposed to be best friends. And you know
what I'm saying, let's not do all this. That's not
let's not play. You know, I'm navigating conversation.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
You know, I think I think women appreciate that. I mean,
I don't. I don't know if it was that straightforward,
but I think.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
But I didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
If you think about it as I.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Didn't say that, I can say that's that's that's I'm
saying just as an example of not something I would say,
but as as as definitely appreciated, and.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
If not, then that's cool.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
We can both we can both acknowledge that we're attractive
and also be pals, you know, the we're adults here.
We can we can navigate relationships with beautiful women, you know.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
Can I can we talk about some of this music
on this new album?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I'd love to you to leave it about four minutes.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
I'm not don't check the text. You should have shut
up not Your man is a very vulnerable record.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Have you ever really felt like you gave everything to
a woman and it wasn't enough?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah? Hell yeah, man. I I mean, I was.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
I was in a place where I think it was
important to start this one out like that. Because I was,
I would have wrote this forever.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
I was. I was in a place with somebody where
my I know it's hard.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I don't want to talk about her in a way
that because I now, as I've grown and healed and
moved on, it's I I thank her for for what
we went through, you know, and I'm grateful for that
time and space that we had together that that pay.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
But I was at the place here where I felt
like I.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Was given everything and and my my feelings in my
I was not validated or it was not enough, or
I was crazy to feeling this way, or I was.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
It was it was abusive situation. I don't know. I
don't want to I don't want to say it.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Oh both man. Physically she was she was just not good.
She was not a good person, and I don't you know,
I'll never say it. I hope the best for her
now and I don't want to say that.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You know. It's a it's a tough thing to talk about,
like I won the best for her.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
But yeah, it was a very tough thing to try
to try to heal somebody, try to make space for
someone to heal, try to give somebody everything and them
to not You would think you would think if you
had a if you had a passion, I'll just make
it like this, you had a passion in your life,
and you had somebody in your life that says you
could quit your job and just focus on your passion.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I'll take care of the rest. You got it, and
you don't do anything with your life. But you just
go on just eat za eggs all day and lay
around and blame.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Somebody for your shortcomings when you you had the opportunity
to follow your dream and somebody that would support you
with your dreams, and you'd be like so surprised to
see if somebody had the opportunity to follow their dreams
and they had everything taken care of. How many people
would be like, if everything's taken care of, I don't
gonna do shit anymore, you know. And and you can't.
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You can't put ambition and drive into somebody.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
You can't. You can't, you can't heal nobody, you can't
save nobody. And I've started to go on that tangent.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
But from that situation, do you feel like you no
longer and able because it's like, though you want to
do something out of love to better somebody, sometimes it's
to their own detriment.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Yeah, I think I think I Yeah, I think it's
a It was an enabling at the end of the day,
you know, I was doing something to help someone become
but I think at the end of the day, I
was enabling somebody to do nothing, and if that was
inside of them, I was enabling that. And I think
it's a common pattern, you know. But uh, I yes,
I'm trying to heal and learn to not see somebody
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wants to be this and or see what somebody for
who see somebody for who they are and not who
I want them to be or think they should be.
Speaker 11 (33:56):
That's even outside of relationships, Like, how are you handling
just those type of boundaries now.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
You're uh, we're you know, we're working on boundaries at all.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I'm learning those. Yeah, that's a huge step for me.
Just boundaries is in general, it's it's a it's a
it's a it's a full time job just navigating having them,
you know.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
So do you feel guilty when you're like, no, I can't.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
Yes, yeah, I mean I can tell you got a
big heart. But people will take advantage of hell.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Yeah, And I'm also grateful to be I don't want
to say I'm grateful be taking advantage of that.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I'm grateful to be available.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
You know, everybody's gonna use you, but don't let people
misuse you a man.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, I heard this advice from this always meet
and greet one time and this beautiful this lady, she
says a therapist. She said, the way people the way
people will treat you as a reflection of the way
they see you. You know, the way people treat you
as a reflection of the way they see the way
you let people treat you as a reflection the way
you see yourself. And that beautiful And it's stuck with me. Man,
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it's such as I'm learning boundaries.
Speaker 9 (35:01):
Yes, I have a last question for you. In meeting
you and just hearing you talk about first of all,
it's just such a nice person. I was reading this
interview you talked about because your girlfriend's black, and you
talked about like when you guys are in the South,
you get like looks from people and like it bothers
you because love should be love. How do you guys,
now you're about to bring a baby into the world.
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You're so positive. She seems so amazing, but the world
is not always like that, Like what's your Like, how
do you defeat that? Because you're really a really nice person,
Like it breaks my heart.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
I mean, you know, thinking about that, I hate, I
hate how much she's go through and she's you know,
so her her dad's black and her mom's white. So
she she's she's gone through this, like tells me about
stuff all the time, about like, you know, how she
felt not wide enough or not blacking up, and how
much her her world in her life has been such
(35:52):
a I guess, like a juxtaposition in both sides, you know,
feeling like she wasn't quite accepted by either side, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
And so there is not a story.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I won't I won't tell you her story because she's
better saying it than I will.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I'll never tell you her story. But I see how like.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
How beautiful she is and and and how how I
guess how like elegant she navigates being who she is.
She's the most incredible human being I've ever met.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
Man for you all to talk to. I love Lamar
Johnson Like.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Black and White.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
The song of Money Loan that titles is a little
on the nose, don't you.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Think, Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Think I think I think that the point of it
was kind of the the.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
I think to the core of love in itself is
black and white, like it's a it's a black and
white issue.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Love is love.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
And not love is not love and loving, whether if
it's a person of a different color, shape, eyes, uh, sexuality,
same sex, whatever it is. I think that the thing
was trying to say that we no matter what, we
could come from different worlds. It's it's a true, I
guess Romeo and Juliette story, you know, kind of is
the basis of it is that like you know, we
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we come from different places, we come from different cultures,
we have different things.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
But when you're in love, man, love is love and
and that should be enough.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
And that's really there ain't nothing right about that, man,
It's just love.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
You know, Love is love. Maybe you know I.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Love that record and it's a good stamp because you know,
money Long recently went viral for saying she's not writing
soulful songs for white artists.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I did not. I'm glad I got that one before.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
She said exactly.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
To cut off.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
But that shows how much your respects to you.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Maybe she hates that song and that's why she said.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
She's I done fucking Teddy man, I'll not doing that again.
When did she do that song with that long did
you do that a while ago?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, we did it. It's had to be a few
months ago now.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
My dear friend Jeff Kitty and Mickey Echo was a
part of it with us too, and we we like
started working on it, and I remember, uh, Jeff Kitty
as has been working with Money for long years and years,
and he's like, man, should we see if if Mornie
wants to do this song with I was like, I mean, yeah,
that's like that's we'd kind of like to do a
record like this.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
We would kind of need that, you know.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I would be so stoked that she'd be willing to
because I knew what I kind of wanted to say.
But also I can't say that, you know without having
money helped me say that, you know, but also without
like relying too much, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I think I needed to.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
We needed to say that with you know, together, and
so I'm just grateful she took that opportunity to say,
I see what you're trying to say. I have you
say that, you know, and and said it with me,
And I think I'm so grateful for her because Money's
just a legend.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Man, what a bad badass.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
You also said you wanted to meet one of your
musical idols, were Stevie Wonder You ever get an opportunity.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Yeah, you know, we haven't met in person, but yeah, yeah,
and I got I got a chance to do a
record with him too. So, uh, I think he's gonna
put out on his next record.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I hope.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
So, I hope it's gonna come out. I'm really excited.
It's it's a good record. It's called Politics Player and
uh yeah, which is such.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
An honor to be on Steve Wonder record. But yeah,
he did FaceTime. I'll tell you that. It's so funny. Man,
he FaceTime. Yeah. And here's the thing. Here's the thing.
He is actually blond, y'all. He this is true life.
He was blond.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
I'm saying people say it. People, there's a conspiracy that
he's not.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Look, I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
I was on the phone with this I was facetiming
this man and he said, he turned this, he put
the camera around. He said, this is my son over here,
and then he said I'm over here today He's pulled
and he said, and this is my niece. And then
he had he had phone facing her and for the
next ten minutes of the conversation.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
I look as far as you are. I looked at
his niece.
Speaker 10 (40:10):
And he.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Was holding up he was holding the camera like he
was talking like he don't all season.
Speaker 10 (40:18):
I did not have the heart's.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Blind she was.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
She was sitting there.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Blind. She was sitting there texts on her phone.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
I didn't have the hard to say, hey, I can't
see you. Well, you know, my dumb ass man, my
dumb that's the reason he called me because I was
in Tokyo. I was in Tokyo and I had found
I had found my favorite album, all time, best album
ever Songs in the Key Live. I found a CD
of it. It was a Tokyo version of it, like
the Japanese version of it, and my dumb ass taxing
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him a picture of it, Oh my goodness, like an idiot,
like he was gonna see it right right, Like I
just checked him.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
That's what I found, Bro.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
I found bro.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Saying his face time. So I was like se and
my fucking dumbass too, was like you give a touch.
He's definitely he didn't see it.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
I just just to put all those things to rest, shut.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Down It's crazy.
Speaker 9 (41:15):
All these years black people have been trying to figure
this out and you are the one that solved the problem.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
I just I just I just know.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
I was looking at his knees about fifteen minutes against bemeditated.
Speaker 8 (41:28):
You gotta go for him because you gotta go do elbows, bro, Yeah,
you gotta.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
You gotta come back, man, I got thanks for the
record too.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Let's play the what you want to be even Real?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
You play that one?
Speaker 7 (41:38):
Yeah, man, he got joints that she got it with
Coco Jones and Glorilla. I like funeral funerals.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Really, thank you.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
What you want to hear?
Speaker 7 (41:46):
Hamil to the heart is my joint though.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Oh yeah, no way, thank you.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
I mean yeah, put it on forgive me on man,
my dog brother investing the business man.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
There you have it, any swim ye.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Thank you so much, laughing at me. I'm honored to
be here, truly. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Let's get into the record are you even Real? Feature
and give you on It's the Breakfast Club, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
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