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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't know. Every day up waiting, click your ass up
the breakfast club.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You don't finish for y'all dumb morning. Everybody's DJ Envy
just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club.
Lown La Rosa is here as well. We got a
special guest in the building, a guy. He's locking up
all you rappers.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I'm just god, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Flat TV DJ's lady.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Glad to be back, Glad to be back up and
doing this for like a decade.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Now longer than that, longer than that, we go back.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Good to see you, man, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
It is funny, though, because the allegations of Ladd being
a fed seem to increase every single time somebody gets
locked up from the hip hop community.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Just is what it is.
Speaker 6 (00:41):
Man, Why why don't you even like address it at
this point? Like when people get like them, you come
out with still like have the conversation or entertain the conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I mean, why not? Why not? Because it's not true.
It's not true. When you talk to the actual rappers
who have gotten arrested, they'll say in interviews, I've had
nothing to do with it. Uh, this interview had nothing
to do with my case. You can go through the
transcripts every so often it's like a fake story. Like
I remember at one point, like there's this fake story
that circulating a bunch of celebrities like Questlove or retweeting.
It was like judge thanks dj vladd for helping the convict.
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The judge had nothing to do with the real judge
and so forth, And it was from a like a
website no one's ever heard of, wasn't a real website,
but people retweeting and so forth. It's like, you just
gotta gotta deal with it. It is what it is.
But you know, like when I came into the game,
like I wanted to ask the tough questions. I wanted
to be the sixteen minutes of hip hop. I always
felt like at that time that hip hop media was
really softball and they wouldn't ask the real tough questions.
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I came in like, yo, I'm going to change you know,
I'm going to change this and I'm going to be different.
And that's what I stuck on this whole time.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I also don't understand if somebody sits down with you,
That's what I was gonna say, And agrees to sit
down with Blad TV in front of a camera and
answer questions why is it your fault?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
They can say no comment, they can say I'm not
answering that, they can say it's a case going, they can.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Say so many different things.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, And I'm I'm also very very careful with people,
like I've turned down interviews when they're open cases.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
Really, yeah, I'm surprised that.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah. Like, for example, like Draco the Ruler, when he
was facing his murder case, his manager was like, Yo,
he wants to do an interview. He wants to tell
a side, And I'm like, you got an open murder
case right now, and you know, once you beat it,
like you can come and we'll talk about it, which
is exactly what we did. Once he beat it, we
did a whole interview. Same thing with tax Told when
he was going through his case. He wanted to do
an interview and I'm like, Yo, you're my friend and
I don't want this interview to be used against you
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in this case, so I just have to turn you down.
I mean, ultimately he ended up losing anyways, but I
didn't want to contribute to that. And I'm like, even
if you hate me after this, like I just don't
want to do this.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Very very trankful.
Speaker 8 (02:39):
But also you also worked in music as well too, right,
like before all it is I was a DJ DJ.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah yeah, turntables in years now, but.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
The mixtape that's true, Like I won Mixtape of the Year,
I won mashup of the Year, like I have one,
you know, Justo's mixtape awards when it was sure part
of as well. You know, you won your awards, but
I'll part of that. I felt like I was like
one of the top guys during that era. But then
when flat TV came around, I had to shift and
kind of focus on a long term career because being
a mixtape DJ and being in DJ in general is
just a tough job, as you know. As you know,
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and I felt like as I was getting older, I
got to like think ahead ten twenty years, this is
what I'm going to do in my life.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I want to ask, what you know, with the whole
Big U Rolling sixties, they threw your name in it
a thousand a little bit.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
They blamed you, they said, because of their interviews on
your channel. Is the reason why the whole indictment of
all the things happened.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I've never heard that. I did one interview with Big U,
like three four years ago, which I don't think has
anything to do with that case. Me and Big you,
you know, maintain a relationship and a friendship. We talked
a couple times a year. I was really shocked and
hurt when I heard of that happened. I've never heard
of my name connected to anything.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Who said where that came from?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Yeah, there's headlines all over. Actually you commented back on
some of them. You defended it. You did it sit
down with TMZ DJ last speaks on Big U or rest.
Interviews don't indict, but crimes do. So I mean, I think.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
They asked me about it in general, but not because
I was connected to it anyway. Look through the whole paperwork.
My name is on the paperwork at all. No, at all.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
I don't think it's like because even when you're because
I know because working at TMZ, when TMZ used to
come up in documents, it just comes up because they
go find whatever they can. I don't think people think
you're act well, no, that's not true. I was gonna say.
I don't think people think you're actually working with the
fans like you're like an informant.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
But people some people do believe that, But.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I think it's more of like people feel like your
interviews get people to talk about things that are then
either directly used in paperwork or even if not directly,
they stem to things that who's.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Fault is that that's not I don't okay, that's not
his fault.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
The questions.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
If I as an interviewer, if I ask you a
question about something, you can say, no comment.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You don't have to answer it.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
But if you answer it and then it's used later,
that ain't my fault.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
People don't really realize. Also, like the majority of the
time of the interview people, especially when they do like
kind of the true crime type stuff, these people have
already done the time for that crime, you know, So
I've speaking you know, I've spoken to people that have
committed murders, done serious crimes, like you know, Terrence Kanster,
Williams burn Man's brother did forty murders that he admitted to.
But these are all things that they've already cooperated with,
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they've already done their time with, and they have the
right to speak on that. They've given up big chunks
of their lives for the ability to speak on that.
You know, I've never talked to people about open cases
on or off camera. You could talk to anybody like
off camera, like, I don't know what you're doing in
your private life. I don't know if you want to
leave lad TV and go rob a bank and they say, oh,
lad TV, you got him arrested. I didn't go rob
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that bank. So so a lot of people. I mean, look,
hip hop is very street oriented. You know, people that
are doing you know, they're rapping and they're producing whatever else,
they're also doing stuff on the side. At the Castanova
two time situation, I did one interview with him when
he first started out, and then he got caught up
for some other stuff way later on. I hadn't interviewed
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him in years and years, but somehow people said, oh,
the lad TV interview got him locked up. But no,
there's DMS, the messages, there was a whole case. There
are snitches, there were so forth. We had nothing to
do with it. He himself will say that I had
nothing to do with it, but people would like to
connect it like, oh, he asked this question, so obviously
that's the reason. But it just comes to the territory.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
How many times have the Feds came to you for audio?
Maybe they felt that there was an interview that you
only played a little bit part, or they were looking
for extras. How many time have they reached out to you?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
One time was that no, well, no, sorry, you're right.
Two times two times. One time was with Jimmy Henchman. Yeah,
we did an interview with him. He mentioned a few
things about his case and he was in the process
of getting an appeal, well, getting like a retrial, I guess.
So the next day he called me and said, hey, listen,
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my lawyer listen to this, and he said that this
might hurt my case. Can you take it down? I said,
no problem. Six months later, the Justice Department called me
up and they're like, we want this footage because they
wanted the original. First, they had a copy of it
because you know, people had reposted or whatever else, but
they wanted the original footage. And I said, I'm not geting
to you the like, well, we'll put you on the stand.
I said, well, you have to speak to my lawyer
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at that point. So I spent like ten thousand dollars
in lawyer fees and we actually blocked them from which
obtaining the footage, and he went. You know, he had
a retrial and he lost anyways, but I didn't want
to contribute to that, Like, if you're going to come
an interview on my show, I'm not going to then
cooperate with the police to get you locked up. I
would do my best to protect you, even if I
have to spend thousands of dollars. The other case was
(07:23):
the KPD case. Las Vegas. PD reached out to me
like a dozen times and kept leaving messages for the
raw footage, and I always just ignored him.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I thought, usually they will fight you too for nail
to get that footage, and they was subpoena you and
all that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
But they tried for the For the Jimmy Henschman case,
they actually took it to whoever. I think Jeff Sessions
was in charge in that time and he won't sign
off on it. But it was a very interesting case.
I think it would have set legal precedent because we
put it up and then we took it down and
they're like, well we still want it. I'm like, well,
freedom of the press, I could protect my my footage,
but you already put it up. I'm it doesn't matter.
(07:58):
I took it down. So if they were able to
actually successfully subpoena it, that wast a you know, kind
of a precedent for future people that took stuff down.
You can go back into history and so forth. But ultimately,
I will do my best to protect you. I will
do my very very best.
Speaker 9 (08:13):
Man.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I think that's because if they want the if the
Feds want the evidence and you're saying that, then they
might can say you're wor it's not. But it's something
about blocking people from evidence.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's a conspirator. I'm not saying I don't have it.
I'm saying I'm not. But but they have to go
through a legal process. I got a criminal lawyer that
went back and forth with the Feds and so forth,
and ultimately they weren't successful. They threatened to put me
on the stand. I said, go ahead and put me
on the stand if that's what you got to do. Like,
I'm not a criminal. If that's the worst thing you
know you could do to me, I'll take the stand
and I'll be a hostile witness. You know, that's what
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ultimately happened.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
You know, if you was to put those interviews up
and say they were true crime and ship.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Would blow up.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
The fact that they're kind of like labeled hip hop
is what keeps them seriously because true crime is like
the biggest genre.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, podcasting, if you were to put those interviews up
as true crime, need to be out of it.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, I mean, we're talking to a bunch of networks
right now. We've had like network meetings for the last
few weeks about having a blad TV true crime series.
You know, no one's actually signed the contracts yet, but
you know, hopefully something like that will happen. But yeah,
I've been doing true crime really for seventeen years of
the time.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah, not labeling it.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
If you was labeling I mean, don't get me wrong,
Black TV does great, But if he was labeling a
true crime and you still can't, I.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Mean I still do. Yeah, I mean in my own way. Yeah,
I mean, like the KYPD interview. But we've also done
a lot of really big interviews Michael Fraanzis I'm seeing
the bulls or regular guests on my show, and we
went to his whole story, a lot of Mexican mafia,
you know, in Western familiar interviews and so forth. MS thirteen,
I mean all around, and like a lot of these guys,
they now come to me to do their first interviews.
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And that's kind of the cool part, you know, like
people like trust me to tell their story as they
feel that I will accurately tell it and tell the
whole story as opposed to just focus on a couple
like things.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You get nervous with that though, because you're talking about
some real people, not rappers. You're talking about some real
people that are have you swimming with the fishes.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I mean, look, I have armed security usually, you know,
most times during these interviews, and I mean these people
are coming to me to tell their story. They know
that I don't mean them any harm. They know that
I'm actually benefiting them. And a lot of people like
you know, like for example, like Terrence Gangster Williams, like
he came out of prison and he wanted to do
his first interview with me. Now he has a full
blown YouTube career. You know, he makes six digits where
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he actually supports himself without having to work a job
because he's still on probation, so he has to keep
as certain type of job. You know. I remember one
of the really success stories was that Gangster had an
arch enemy named Little Diesel that someone asked me to
bring up the name during this one interview and he's like, yeah,
you know, me and him were like at war, people
are getting killed, stabbed and so forth, and last time
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we saw each other, we pulled out knives. A Little
Diesel reached out to me and said, hey, I want
to do an interview. I said, do you want to
do one with Terrence? He goes yeah. So I flew
them both into New York and YPD in the building.
I explained to them, like listen, if y'all end up
stabbing each other, you're gonna get arrested. I can't do anything.
Everyone got, you know, y'all got to raise her in
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your mouth or something. So everyone got frists whatever else.
They did an interview, and then after the interview they
became friends, and Diesel actually moved in with Gangster and
he lives with Gangster and Gangster's mom, and now they're
best friends. They went from arch enemies that weren't that
they're trying to kill each other, like like Gangster has
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this whole scar down the stomach from a fight from
a gang fight. They got into and now they live
together their roommates. Like, how crazy?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Is that different?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Because because of the interview, because I put them in
the same room and I got them back together.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
The sitcom there somewhere, Glad, Do you have like favorite
people in an interview? Because I see Boosy up there
airy spirits all the time.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
Are you like friends with them? Do they call you?
Are you calling them?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Like?
Speaker 10 (11:56):
Yo, come up here and talk about this?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah? I mean me and Bousy, Uh, you know, we've
had a relationship forever. I'm actually flying out there in
a couple of weeks to do another feature on him
in his home.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Me and BUSSI is a little bit more business, you know,
Me and aries. You know, we chop it up. I mean,
uh but really, all my regular guests kind of become
friends to a certain degree over time, uh, you know,
because I realized early on I can't keep getting new
people every single day, every single week. So I had
to start, you know, working with repeat guests, and you know,
they worked out. There's certain people that really just kind
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of blown up, Like Lord Jamar, he's back on Black
Team again. I'm doing him later today and and you pay, Yeah,
And I paid people. Yeah, all my regular guests get paid.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
How did the Lord Jamar situation get recordicized and we
never even talked about that often?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean it happened over the Farakon situation.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
So what happened?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You break down white speak.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So so I misquoted Farakhon, and I remember me and
you were talking during that time. There was a video
that was circulating that that had FAA cons saying certain
things about Jewish people, but the video was cut at
a certain time where he kind of explained himself later on,
and then he wasn't really saying what inferred from that
particular clip. So at the time, you know, I put
out kind of a statement, but I didn't really put
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out an apology, and a bunch of people got pissed
off at me, you know, like you know, Jamar was
one of them. So we just stopped talking for about
five years. And then my whole thing was like I
was planning on doing an apology and so forth. So
me and Willie d have been close friends for a
long time and he's a big, big paracon support, been
on stage with him, long conversation with him, so forth.
So I said, listen, when I do the apology. I'm
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going to come to Houston. I'm going to do it
with you. So that's exactly what I did. I flew
to Houston. We sat down. I knew it wasn't going
to be a softball interview because he really went hard
for Faara Cohon. But he was also my friend and
he respected me. He never spoke about me publicly and
so forth. So we did the interview and it came out,
and then you know, it kind of a lot of
good Like you know, people like Killer Mike called me
to thank me, and you know, and so forth. And
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Jamar just called me up one day and was like,
hey man, like he had mentioned because he did this
interview with his pit bull, he had like a baby
pit bull in this one interview, and then he had
said how his pit bull recently died, and he started
to start thinking about kind of like the cycle of
life and our relationship and so forth. We got on
the phone and we chopped it up. We had a
long conversation. Then we had another follow up conversation onic
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why'd you come back and do the show? He's like, yo,
let's do it, and we did it. Now we were
rocking back again.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
It makes me wonder, you know, did Jamar just feel
Lloyd Jamal feel like he just had to be like
that with you because of public pressure.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, somewhat. I mean there's a lot of that. There's
a lot of backlash. And it was like my first
like cancel moment. You know, we've all gone through like
you know, you two, you know what I mean for
a fact, I've gone through it. And the first time
you go through it, you're like, damn, like the whole
world is turning against me, you know. But then you
start to see who your real friends are, you know,
because certain people like you, you know, like we've always
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had a close relationship, You've never spoken against me, you know,
people like Willie, people like like Trey d and so forth,
they may feel a certain type of way, but you know,
people like John Sally, people like Michael Jay White, Like,
you got to see who you know, your real friends are,
who really were there for you. So it was kind
of a bad experience and had a good experience at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You had a very controversial stance when it came to
Ditty right. People were mad at you with your stance with.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
That mean which part, the Cassie part Okay, yeah, yeah,
so so.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Breaking up a man.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
If a man wants to rub another man's not on
his nipples, he should be allowed to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I never said exactly, he never said that.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
You said Cassie is guilty of the same prostitution charges
Diddy was just convicted of. I interviewed three of them,
male escorts. All three of them said the same thing.
Cassie picked them, contacted them for free cross and enjoyed
the experiences. Meanwhile, she's sitting on thirty million dollars and
writing letters to the judge asking him to not be
giving bail twenty million book.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I mean, I feel, yeah, if Diddy's need no brown,
she's g money.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, it's true. But I've interviewed the actual escorts. I
have two more escorts that are coming in today, interview tomorrow, Friday, Friday.
Two more escorts are coming in, and every story is
exactly the same. Cassie was with it. She would pick
them out, she would actually engaged with him. She was happy.
There was no type of like, you know, being forced
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to do it now. One of them did say, you know,
the who I'm interviewing on Friday did say that he
saw Diddy abuse her, you know, And what I think
is this is ultimately a domestic violence case that has
ballooned into rico and sex trafficking and so for. But
really what it's about is domestic violence, which is if
Diddy was charged today, he would be absolutely guilty. He's
definitely a monster for doing that. But domestic violence is
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not this case. It's rico, it's a criminal enterprise. It's
sex trafficking, which you know if you look. I did
an interview with Shirley jew because I was at the
Hollywood and locked wards and I was on the red carpet,
and she asked me, what do you think will happen?
This is a couple days before the vert. I said
exactly what the verdict was going to be. So he's
going to beat the rico, he's going to beat the
sex trafficking. He'll probably catch a prostitution charge and probably
get a slap on the wrist, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
But isn't it crazy that usually in a prostitution charge, right,
the prostitutes and the pimp get gets more the charges.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But in this case they all got immunity.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Oh they didn't get immunity. Well, no, it's not Cassie.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah got immunity community, we got immunity.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Services didn't get it's a big guy in the rico though, right,
like we're if we're talking about because how they tried
to set it up with the rico.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
It didn't work. You're the big guy.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
That's what you offer to everyone else to because you
need the evidence, you need people on the stand.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
So that's not uncommon.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
They lost the rico. They lost. It wasn't a rico.
And look, the prosecutor got fired right after the verdict,
which kind of sends a message as to you know,
they probably told her not to do it, but she's like, no,
I'm gonna do what. I'm gonna get him on a rico.
I mean, look, the whole thing was ridiculous, and I
kind of feel like, you know, and what I feel
is that when it comes to a battle, right, and
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we've all kind of gotten into with people in various ways,
when you win, you should stop. Right. Cassie got thirty
million dollars, She got Diddy locked up for a year.
He's lost hundreds of millions of dollars. No, Diddy has
been the new pause, right. He will always be considered
gay ish for the rest of his life. He's not
going to go to any big award shows, he won't
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be honored or whatever else.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
He was considered gay before that, No, but.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Not after the come on the nipple thing that that
was like, that's was but she didn't know about to
come on the nipples. That was crazy. He win an
argument with the man again, they can just pull that
out on him. So yeah, you know, he got, he got,
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he got found guilty. And after all that, with thirty
million in her pockets, she publicly embarrassed him everything else
like that, she still wrote a letter to the judge
to not let him out before the sentencing.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Well, that's what a beating comes into play. And I mean,
the prosecution didn't prove it, so it don't matter, but
the beating comes into play because they were saying because
she was such an abused person, she she really didn't
want to participate in these things. She was doing it
because she was afraid that she might get beating.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's not what the participants actually said. I mean, you know,
don the dealer, this tall guy with green eyes and
so forth, like he was like she picked me. We
had a great relationship, and they all said if they
felt that she was uncomfortable, they would have left, like
they you know, but she would pick them, she would
pay them, she would be in contact with them, she
would meet up with some of them on the side
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and sneak out. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
They said she didn't have it. They didn't. They never
said she had immunity though, never.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Said it on the stand, but all the other there
was a there was a few other people that got
on the stand that they did the whole immunity like
whatever that exchange back and forth, it's called they did
it while they were on the stand, But they've never
directly said that about her.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Okay, who wants to bet that she won't get charged? No, seriously,
one hundred thousand dollars that she won't get charged. So, yeah,
she would have gotten official immunity, but we all know
that she's not gonna get charged.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Question, and this is just me being objective.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yes, do you think that because a lot of her
letter with keeping him locked up and not getting bail
at least, was about the fear of like Diddy, you
feel like retaliation, I feel like so you feel like
there's no at this point if Diddy was to be
let go on bail, and even he's asking for charges
to be dropped or get a new trial. If he
was to just be let go everything free, he's a
changed man. Nothing will happen again. People don't have to
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worry about nothing. You feel like that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I think that Diddy is terrified of Cassie. I think
there's no person on earth that Diddy is more scared of.
I think he's more scared of like Cassie than sug Knight. Really, yeah,
I don't think I think he's terrified based on what
she's done.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I think he knows it. I think yeah, I think
there's some.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
More stuff in there and so forth.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
He can't get no worse.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
He's like, and look, she has thirty million dollars. She
can afford green berets and navy seals to surround her
house if that's what she wants. She has multi generational wealth,
multi generational generational wealth. And look at me. I went
at it with Tony Busby. I'm Pierce Mortgan. I went in.
(20:52):
I went in because look, you have one hundred victims
that all claim they were drugged and rap by Diddy,
but nobody in the FED case could prove they're drugged
and rate by Diddy. They're all found out guilt. You know,
he was found not guilty at all those charges. You know,
so you mean to say that all those hundred victims
were not part of the trial. I just think it
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was a bullshit losses. That's why me and him went
at it.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
How much would you pay for a Diddy interview?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
The the first Diddy interview dropped like hundred thousand, drop
a hundred thousand.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
For the number though, you have to do a little
bit better for Diddy.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I mean, listen, he's rich. Like, I don't think you
can pay Diddy. I don't think there's enough money because
he's still probably worth hundreds of millions of dollars. There's
certain people that like, you can't really pay because they're
not gonna do it. They're gonna do it because they
want to do it.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah, has anybody reached out for his family that wants
to sit down?
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Okay, you recently had some comments abou Nicque Minaj as
well Snitchey Minaj. Yes, do you do you really think
what she did with when she talked to Ane Luna
about top Dog threatening her life?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I mean, number one top Dog did not threat in
her life. There was this other guy that worked for
I think he was like a DJ or something like that.
I forgot his name, but he made a comment that said, oh,
you know, NICKI don't want with TD. See what Kendrick did?
You know? She don't want to be in the blender.
And suddenly she's like, TD is threatening my life at
FBI at CIA, and then like Luna was like, we're
(22:19):
gonna investigate this. It's like, you don't, damn well, nobody
threaten your life. You know, damn well, nobody threatens your
life without little comment you Nicki Minaj. So you turn around,
people call me the fans, but she's literally tagging the
FBI and CIA talking to representatives who are investigating the situation. Yes,
Niche Minaj.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
How do you know? How do you know that they didn't?
How do you know someone did not threaten her life?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Though she's basing it on that that was a direct
response to some guy going on live saying, oh, you'll
get put in the blender. Do you really think that
this guy is gonna chop her up and put her
in a blender? Like seriously, seriously, come.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
On, I'm sure Bobs went at you for a couple days.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Oh, they still go at me.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
But I thought they're putting the blender with slang.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Exactly rap, Like she's a rapper, it's rapper slang. Cut
it out, cut it out. I don't know what she's on.
But this tirade she went on, and the whole thing
of calling Sis ugly and so far, it was like,
Sis really don't bother nobody, you know what I'm saying,
She really doesn't bother anybody.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Crazy on you.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yes, oh, we're gonna kill you, kill your family like that.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
You don't like and no moments you don't contact nobody.
Speaker 11 (23:38):
No, no, put it on her. No no, no, not Now.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Someone shows up at my house.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
But we're not talking about that.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
But someone shows up at my house, then then yeah,
I'm gonna absolutely contact you. Thought, oh yeah, definitely, you know,
or I'm going to protect myself one of the two.
But yeah, like like we all, every one of this
room knows, there's the Internet and there's real life, and
the two are rarely related. These same people that say
they're gonna kill you on the internet, if they meet you,
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they want a photo that's real life. When I walk around,
I'm loved. People want to take pictures of me, you guys,
I'll go through this. This is not just me, this
is everybody. They want to take pictures of me. They
want to take pictures with the kids. You know. They
tell me how much they love my interviews and so forth.
But on the internet you would think that I'm hated.
But that's not reality.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
But also, but also the game needs villains. I don't
have a problem being the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, I'm the bad guy.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Sometimes I'm cool.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I don't need.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I could be part of the doctor.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Do that's cool. That's again.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Somebody you interviewed that walked out was like, I'm not
doing this.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I walked out in the middle of the interview. I mean,
ugly god did at one point. I think he apologized
he was going through a lot of like personal, like
mental issues, and we talked about that afterwards. Tretch kind
of walked out at the end. I just walk Tupac questions.
You know, we were just start talking about the Tupac murder
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and so forth, and I think Tretch feels that he
was assassinated and there was more to it, and he
started to get kind of emotional, so he kind of
he didn't like storm out, but he got up and
was like, man, you know, I can't talk to about
this anymore, and so forth. But in general, like I
don't do I don't keep pushing people to the point
of them like snapping. You know, it's just not my
style because I also I'm not trying to have a
platform where people while out and storm out and so forth,
(25:29):
like that's you know, Adam is a little bit more
like that. He kind of likes that. But if you
look at my my platform, I've never really been into that.
Speaker 10 (25:37):
Has anybody ever told you a story that got your emotional?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah? Yeah, a few times. A few times. The girl
Mia from the Take Cay case when she was talking
about the you know, her sex trafficking and what she
went through and being like a teenager and being forced
to have sex with a bunch of men in motel
rooms and being forced to be a stripper and so forth,
that got me emotional a few times. A few times
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I started kind of cry a little bit.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, what about the date twenty sixth interview right
when you and him crying.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, I didn't personally get emotional during that, but that
was kind of a crazy interview, because you know, because
I've had a person cry. I mean, I probably have
maybe a dozen interviews with people cried on camera, but
I've never seen a whole group of people start to
cry at the same time. And they cried in harmony, Yeah,
in harmony.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
Yeah, and that was crazy because they was up here
a week before.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, you were done already though.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (26:36):
Okay, so they came to you first. Okay, when did
you take I.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Think they came. I think they came to you think.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I think you guys had them first.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, did you text me one time? He was like, damn,
I was sad when we did out.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And if you think it was like when I released,
you're gonna see them crying, and the reason why I thought.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Maybe maybe I'm pretty sure, Maybe maybe I'm wrong. I
don't know. These dates kind of start to kind of
maild a little bit.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Did you ever find out what what why they all cried?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well, well, I think you talked about it later. He
said that he was drugged, Oh, drugged her, which she's denied,
and then he woke up in a room and everyone
was laughing at him or something, and I don't know.
She she denied the whole thing. I don't know, I
don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
But they didn't give a fuck about don Aucassie's testimony.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
On that note, one of the drawers came out afterwards
saying that they that was Dawn they thought was the
least credible. If well, he was an alternate jurer, if
he had to actually work going, he would have thought
she was least credible.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Yeah, what did you think of ge Herbal's challenge to
you in academics? He said that I think it was
during the Adam freed Land in of you, he said,
I challenged academics, Blad and others to donate money to
kids in Chicago since since they made money off their pain.
Is the exact quote was, I feel like all those
kinds of guys, what they should do is give to
a nonprofit organization in Chicago. I'm gonna challenge him to
do that, like academics, Blad, all you n words that
(27:52):
made money off the culture and people dying in bloodshed
and shit like that, donate go donate twenty grand to
fifty grand to a nonprofit organization that focused on the
betterment of kids.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
So it's a two part question. Really, how did you
feel when he calls you dan work.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I mean, look, at the end of the day, the
obvious response, you know that the kne jerk creactions like,
well what about you? You have you say GdK in
your lyrics. You know that's gangster, discipled killer and you
have all these violent lyrics.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
But Giovo does a lot though, was that Grbo does
do a lot?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, I mean, look, at the end of the day,
I think we could all do things that kind of
help out. I think we all have a part in it.
I think me, academics and g Herbal and a lot
of the other drill artists have a part because we
all talk about it, and we all publicize it, and
you could say that just putting it out there could create,
you know, negative situations. So you know, I've been talking
(28:47):
to g Herbal's people about doing an interview and actually
talking about it face to face on it because I
think that in that situation, the interviewer, I forgot what
his name is, Adam Freeman. It was funny, I just
did academics, this guy there's a picture here in blackface
that interviewer. Yeah, like like academics actually pulled out the photo.
So this dude's a racist, you know what I'm saying.
And I think he was purposely poking the bear to
(29:08):
try to get a you know, to try to get
a reaction out of Herbal. But I've interviewed gee Herbal
since he was a little herb, right, we have multiple interviews.
I think that we could all instead of saying and
start pointing the finger at each other and saying, you're
doing this, you're doing this, why don't we all come together,
maybe donate together, because we all have a part in
this in our own way. You know, nobody's completely innocent.
(29:32):
But ultimately, when you look at vlad TV interviews and
I've interviewed a lot of these Chicago guys, when I
bring up certain beef situations, it's always in the context
of like can you can you guys work it out?
A lot of these guys I know both parties. Like
for example, you look at like the Young and Ace
and Fulio situation. I've talked to both of them about
possibly working an eye. I can get both of y'all
(29:53):
on the phone. They didn't want to do it, and ultimately,
you know, Fulio got killed not because of the Young
and Ace, but you know, through others situations but it's
like I always try to d esclay situations. I told
FPG Ducky should move out of Chicago multiple times, and
then the worst possible thing happens. Like you see this
a lot. But I've always tried to get peace with people,
just like I talked about it the Terrence Gangster Williams
(30:14):
a little Diesel situation. I try to bring people together
and get them to be cool with each other because
a lot of times when people can get on the
phone and have an actual, real conversation, like, look, me
and you have had problems, how do we fix it? Conversation,
Me and you had little issues over the time, and
we fixed it. Like these are all grown adults. We
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can all fix it. But the problem is nobody talks
to each other. People look at comments, people at social
media amp them up. They have their friends around them
that tell them fuck them, we're not gonna do it,
and so forth, and then it gets worse and worse
and worse, and then people try to outdo themselves, you know,
because the worst thing in my generation in terms of
diss tracks was Tupac when you said I'll fuck your bitch,
(30:57):
and everyone's like, oh, we can't get any worse that
it got worse than that. Chief Chief Keith came around
and suddenly it's like smoking my ops. And then Fullio
came around doing videos, you know, in front of people's
grave sites, holding up pictures of the people that were killed.
Some of them were like teenagers, you know. And I
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remember there's an interview with Boosy in my next Boosey Interview,
I'm gonna bring this up. I said, Yo, someone's gonna
try to out ignorant each other. You know, someone's trying
to do out ignorant the game. I bet you someone's
gonna dig up one of their enemies trying it. And
after I said that, someone blew up a grave site.
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
What's next? They tried to do that? And then somebody
members somebody tried to do it was Pop Smoke's grave.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Got desecrated, you know what I'm saying, Like it's.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
I think it's easier to have conversations when you and
a person at a previous relationship, Like it was easy
for me and you to have contents because we were
actually friends and still friends, you know what I mean.
And I felt like I did something fucked up, you know,
so I reached out so that I think it's different
when you actually have a previous relationship with somebody.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, but even people that don't really have previous relationships,
like me and Joe Bunden ran into each other I
think in December, and you know, I saw him looking
at me. We were a bro dwarf goodman. I looked over.
I'm like, oh shit, Joe Budden, He's like looking at me.
I walked up to him, we shook hands, we had
a short conversation, and then that's it. I spoke about
it publicly. He spoke about it publicly. The story's matched up,
(32:22):
and it was like, yo, like we don't have to
keep going at it, you know, And most times it's
like people think that they have to in order to
go viral and so forth, when most times it's like
it doesn't really accomplish anything, especially when you talk about media.
I've always been very big about reaching out to media people. Early.
I was the first person to reach out to you
when you were in South Carolina and put you on a.
Speaker 9 (32:42):
National yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Two or three yeah, yeah, two thousand and three, somewhere
around that time. So I've always academics Adam Sean Cotton
Trapla Ross ten ninety, Jake, everybody, Like, I've reached out
to all these PEO people. I've offered any sort of
help that I could do. I've brought them on my platform,
I've done their platforms, and I feel like we could
(33:06):
all be better off if we all work together as
opposed to beefing. I think media people beefing each other stupid,
absolutely stupid.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know that new generation.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
But to your point, it's like, yeah, you know, like
me and you know each other's Columbia SID Caroline you BDVD, Yeah, Academics.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I knew Act when ACT was doing college radio.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
I was I'm DJ Academics first interview ever, the first
person you ever sat down an interview with me, Joe
Budden used to come to South Carolina and be hanging
out in my apartment.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Really, Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it is.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Kind of strange, But I think it's harder because like
a lot of people who don't know you only get
the perception of like what people say about you and
then what they see online and like because like there's
been times where you've even come out after tweets and
you've apologized for certain things with like the girl from
How Princeton and then the boss Man Dilo stuff. Yeah,
like but they don't. But people don't know you before that.
(33:58):
They just know people say about you.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Somebody is fault because I don't know why Bladd decided
to be a personality.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Could have just been you could have just been asking
the question.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Then you started to decide to be a personality and
coming at people.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
That kind of your your tweets be like, yeah, sometimes
I'm surprised.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I'm like five million impressions on this random ass tweet,
Like ten million impressions. I have something I do. I do,
but then again, I don't know what's going to take off.
Like it's like wow, like this is all World Star
and Shade Room and people are having interviews about and
so forth. I didn't think. I don't know, Like I
never thought that this would be what I was doing
(34:38):
in my life. Like I was just a hip hop fan.
I bought every Source magazine, about every double X Sale magazine.
I was just you know, neurotic about loving hip hop,
and I just thought that I was going to be
a fan for the rest of my life, and then
at one point it turned into something else. So the
fact that I'm here is always like a shock. So
when people recognize me in public or when the tweets
(35:00):
go viral, I'm always just flattered more than anything else.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
Speaking of you know, people just communicating and get on
the phone and talk and have you and Marlon Wayne's
settled jaw differences.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
You haven't talk. I texted him, and you know, I apologize.
I was going through a really rough patch. I was
going through a really rough patch in my life and
he just happened to be interacting with me at that point.
And the thing about that was, you know, he had
you know, he had asked me through his representative, he
(35:31):
wanted forty thousand dollars plus thirty percent of all future
revenues to do an interview. And I'm like, you don't
charge anyone for that, Like Walton Waite's been here multiple times.
How much you guys pay him?
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Breakfast Club doesn't pay though you do, but you have
a reputation for paying people.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Okay, all the interviews he's done, I know all the platforms.
I personally know the people that he's done all the
platforms with nobody has paid him for the interviews or
no one's paid any sort of significant amount of money.
But I felt like him hitting up for forty thousand
was just sort of like, well, just say, don't fuck
with me that, don't ask me for this crazy amount
of money. But me and him had a conversation. He
(36:10):
was very cool and very polite about it. And I
was just being an asshole. Like I said, I was
going through a bunch of stuff and I just decided
to make it public and that turned into a whole
back and forth to a whole roasting session or he
roasted me, I roasted him, and so forth. But you know,
when the dust settled, I'm like, he didn't deserve any
of this. Very mature, Yeah, I said, I was just
being an asshole, Like I was just being a jerk,
because when it comes to interviews, you know this, Like
(36:33):
I'm really I really just like I take it too
personally sometimes because this is my whole life and this
is my legacy, Like this is what I do. So
when there's someone who I respect and I feel like
I have a platform, I have a big platform that
if you do blad TV, you're not doing me a favor,
Like this is going to get out there, this is
going to cause you to get more business more shows
(36:54):
like people's entire careers were built off of doing blat
TV interviews, especially comedians, because I'm always been so locked
in with comedians, from from Aries to T. K. Kirkland,
who constantly says that you know that he's he's been
helped out by doing blad TV interviews to even like
the newer guys like like Will Mills and stuff like that.
Like I've always reached out cause I've been a comedy fan.
(37:15):
So I just felt like, you just hit me up
for this type of money. But you know, at the
end of the day, it was just a business conversation.
It should have been kept private, and I was being
a jerk about it. So I personally apologized in the
text message. He didn't respond, Yeah, OK, yeah. We had
each other's numbers, so you know, he didn't respond, and
he spoke about it, and you guys, you know, had
him on your show and so forth, and I think
(37:35):
he's still a little salty about it, and that's that's
his right. I understand. I don't expect my apology to
ultimately hit home every time, but he knows what it is.
So if we run into each other, we'll probably have
a in person conversation if.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
He wanted to come down, the door still open for him.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Absolutely, not for forty maybe like ten, maybe like ten.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I mean his number is number is a big stock.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I understand your numbers, your number to a certain degree.
But at the end of the day, there's also the market. Right.
So for example, you know you look at like a
stand up, you look like an airy Spears being him,
talked about this, right, Harry Spears does clubs. He's always
booked in clubs. Now he could tell his agent from
here on in, I'm only doing stadiums. If it's not
(38:19):
a stadium, don't call me. You know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
No call, No, it's not gonna have any calls.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
So you could say that your number is this, but
the market and the views don't support that. And what
I said was like when he did you know the
Breakfast Club last time, it got less than a million views.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Now I think he got a million on rever.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You know, look at what it was I thought he posted.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
It was like see I did.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
No, he comes a lot though, Look up, Look up
the last Breakfast Club interview with Marlin Ways, look at
the numbers.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Let's see I think he's been here since the home.
A year ago, he got an interview that did four
hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Four hundred thousand was about five thousand dollars. Okay, no, no, no,
I know. YouTube four hundred thousand views is about five
thousand dollars. And you guys are a big platform where
we have a similar size overall, you guys do radio,
but on YouTube we have a similar size.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
But then he was here a year ago. That was
a year ago to one that got punted. He was
here nine months ago and it.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Got Okay, so that's ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
But around the time, around the time where was the.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Forty thousand dollars come in?
Speaker 9 (39:21):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Shot right after y'all think nine.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Those numbers look a little little sketchy.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
Sketchy.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Every other platform does this number, and suddenly is this number.
Those numbers look a little sketchy.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I mean months ago, she had a big part of
the our groom.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
You know how that works too.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, I'm just saying when you you know, every time
you do a platform, you get this and suddenly you're
like ten times that I don't know.
Speaker 10 (39:52):
And then it also depends on what you're talking about too,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, and it was the follow up interview after our
beef and so forth. But I don't think that was
even a dressed in the interview, so I.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Don't know if it was.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Can we talk about that for a second, because you've
been on YouTube for a long time.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah, YouTube does favor.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
New right, well, brand new clips well, I mean yeah,
brand new it was favored absolutely.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
But even new platforms. I think, no, you know things,
no talking, no talk to me, no.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I mean, look, YouTube does a great job that if
you have a strong video, then it'll get it out there.
But I mean if you don't have the subscribers and
you don't have the following, and it's not being like
viewed and viewed and viewed like TikTok is pretty good
at that, Like you could have a TikTok page one
thousand followers and suddenly get like five million views. But
YouTube is not like that.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
YouTube is shadow band does blacklisted us?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Really?
Speaker 5 (40:43):
What they send us emails that says like this content
doesn't necessarily violate our terms and agreement, we just deem
it inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Like what.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
And you know, when it started It started after January sixth,
when I gave Donkey of the Day to who I
called Vanilla isis the people who stole them the Capitol
when they first thin how is this inappropriate for me
to get him don get to day?
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And it's been kind of like I mean, but you.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Know, yeah, it varies. We shout out to tomorl and
wayins Man like he's a legend what he does, and
I apologize publicly. I know that he didn't accept the apology,
but at the end of the day, I was wrong
for putting personal business out in the public, and that's
what I apologize for. But I still will say forty
thousand dollars was just a number that wasn't reasonable.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
So was it.
Speaker 8 (41:28):
I would think it would be the thirty percent of
revenue that comes from the content you tripped over to
forty thousand.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Well, the thirty percent wasn't reasonable either, you know. You
know now, if feels nothing in thirty percent, then that
would have been an interesting conversation. But forty thousand plus
thirty percent, I mean, we would have to get like
thirty million views to like break even, Like it's really
like a huge amount that that didn't really make sense
based on his overall numbers. Now it feels Cat Williams'd
(41:56):
be a different conversation.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Got but what was your biggest interview? At you the
most revenue?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
The the interview with Roger Bonds went crazy? Oh wow? Yeah.
So Roger Bonds was Diddy's had of security for like
ten years, and he first hand saw the abuse between
Diddy and Cassie as well as all the other crazy
stuff that was happening. And we did the interview right
before Diddy was arrested, so it was doing okay, but
then when he was arrested, suddenly, sure it went. It
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went crazy and just kept going crazy for like a
couple of months.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
How almost did it do?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Oh? I mean the full interview did like maybe two
two three million views, but then all the clips did
a lot and so forth. So it did. It did
some big numbers, and I had him back since then.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Why did you think he wasn't on a stand Because
he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
They contacted him, they contacted his lawyer, but they ultimately
didn't bring him on, which surprised me a little bit.
But I don't know. I thought the fans fumbled that
whole case, period, So it doesn't totally surprise me.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I feel like you get more views for things outside
of hip hop.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Sometimes, yeah, sometimes, But you know, lat TV has never
been the darling of the music industry. You think about it, like,
we don't really work with any of the labels anymore.
If we work with artists, it's usually directly from the artists,
like all the pr you know, sections of the labels
like don't rock with me. So we had to figure
out how to do it. We had to go outside,
(43:20):
you know, outside the box. We had to start bringing
in people that other people really weren't you know, rocking with,
and they're ignoring. So this is where some of the
guests that became regular guests, like Lord Jamar was not
like a hot hip hop artist at the time that
I brought him on, and he became a big personality
because we kept putting him on. I mean, Brand Nubian
hadn't put out, you know, music in quite a while.
(43:41):
But you know, I always try to just sit there
and kind of think outside the box. Like I'll be
watching Netflix, I'll be like, oh, okay, you know the man
with a thousand kids. That sounds like an interesting interview.
Let's fly him in from Amsterdam and have a conversation
with him and it'll be like that.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
That's always been my mentality.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
We've talked about this a million times, Like I feel
like the whole hip hop media thing it's a glass ceiling,
right because you're.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Only going to interview Jay Z once, if.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
At all, if at all, I've never you know what
I mean, Like you're now You're only gonna get these
interviews like once. So it's just like, why can't hip
hop personalities talk to, you know, people outside of hip
hop and why do you get penalized for that as
a hip hop media journalist.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Whatever I mean, I don't consider myself a strictly hip
hop media personality, Like I've always been outside the box.
So I've never looked at it that way, And like
I said, a lot of it is because I had
to do it now. Look, if I was on the
list for every promo run for every big artist, I'd
probably be focusing more on just hip hop and music.
But I don't get that luxury.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
No, you wouldn't because it's still not a lot of holes.
How many of old have we seen this year? Push
the clips? Who else? Like seriously think about it like
these a artists don't be doing those runs like that.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
No more.
Speaker 8 (44:50):
Kamala would have been a big interview for you. Did
they ever tell you, Comma.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Kama, we reached out, we were having conversations.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Would have explained to you why they passed no.
Speaker 9 (45:01):
No.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
But she fumbled a lot of stuff during her you know,
during her campaign, and I've publicly said how it was
a huge mistake for not to do Joe Rogan. I
think that she had she had more of a chance
of winning if she had done Joe Rogan, because Joe
Rogan did Trump and did uh Jade Vans exactly. Both
(45:21):
of them came in sat with him for hours, whereas
Kamala said, you have to come to me and you
have a limited amount of time. And I just thought
that was a mistake. Yeah, And I think if I
had done a Kamala interview, we had like multiple hours
that could ask whatever we want, it would have been
like her biggest interview in you know, probably in her life, honestly,
(45:43):
because I really would have really gone in and so far.
And I voted for Kamala. You know, I have pictures
of me voting for Kamla.
Speaker 10 (45:49):
So you know, do you think our biggest fumble was.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I think that at the end of the day, we
didn't really know who she was. I love, love them
or hate him. Trump was transparent. He came in and
did all these podcasts, you know, and he did all
these all these talks for multiple hours, and you got
to know who he really was as a person. I
think Kamala to this day is still an enigma, and
(46:17):
I think that the people just didn't connect. And look,
at the end of the day.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
She announce her book today too. She dropped a book
called one hundred and seven Days for pre order.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Okay, that's cool, Like I voted for I like Kamala,
But it was just one of those things where people
who supported Trump were gonna come out, They're gonna bring
their friends, they're gonna tell everyone they're going to campaign
and so forth. People when it came to Kamala were
a little bit I don't know, I don't know. And
(46:46):
when you saw the final numbers, the last time you
saw a blowout like that was I think Obama's first election.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
It wasn't a blowout, though it was a blow he
lost all the swing states number.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
But actually will like, look at all the votes of
Trump versus Comedy.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
Look at that actual number. There wasn't a blow out
at all.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
It was like it was not even not even I'm
tell you right now, it wasn't a blowout.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
She did lose all the swing states.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
It was a couple of million.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Oh, I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Look at the last time you've seen that type of
gap for the presidential election. It was Obama. Remember I
looked it up. So you're talking about what fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
I'm gonna tell you all right now.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
And she lost a lot of states.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
Yeah, Kamala had seventy five point I mean seventy a
little bit over seventy five million votes, and Trump had
a little bit over seventy seven million votes.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
A couple million, Yeah, it was Okay.
Speaker 5 (47:37):
What I think the matter of fact, the percentage of
the popular vote, Kamala was forty eight point three.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Trump was forty nine point eight.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
So okay, okay, you're right. I think what I'm talking
about is the actual You look at what do you
call the states things?
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (47:50):
When you count the what do you call the vote votes?
We took the electoral college votes, That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
It was two twenty sixty three twelve.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
That's a that's a blowout. Two twenty six versus three twelve.
That's what I'm talking about. Last time that happened was
Obama's first election two twenty six versus three twelve. That's huge.
It's pretty big. It's pretty big.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
It was a letdown.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yeah, what what?
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Who do you want to talk to?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Who do you want to sit down with that you
haven't yet that's been in the works. Maybe it could happen.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Can't happen?
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Who is that one person that you said I would
love to sit down and talk to him. We're trying
to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I mean, this can't happen anymore. But me and O. J.
Simpson were in talks.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
You never talked to OJ, never talked to OJ.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
We were about to do it. I was gonna pay
them one hundred thousand, right, and you know he had
to go through like another guy because he had lawsuit
that he wasn't paying back.
Speaker 10 (48:42):
Darland is gonna be pissed me.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
So me and O. J. Simpson were supposed to do
an interview. They just said, don't get too deep into
the blood evidence and stuff like that, and I said,
that's cool. You know, I'll touch on the trial, but
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
I don't know why it mattered at this point, but
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Right. So it was all set up and they was like, okay,
he wants cash. So I talked to my account. They're like, okay,
we can do cash. They just have to fill out
a W nine and do an invoice whatever.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
You couldn't give it to him directly.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I did to give him to his man, right, I said, okay, cool,
we'll do cash. It's like, okay, I need the full
amount before he gets out the car, and I'm like, yo,
he owes like ten million dollars. He's never paid, like
he's he's a crook, always.
Speaker 10 (49:25):
Bringing up somebody person like some.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
Money.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
If you have a reputation of not paying people and
you want all your money up front. And I even said, look,
I'll give him fifty thousand up front and fifty thousand
at the end of the interview. No, they would not budge.
They would not budge so business wise, because look, my
fear was like, we get fifteen minutes into the interview.
I asked him a question he doesn't like, and he
walks out, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 4 (49:51):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
I'm not gonna shoot him like you know, I'm not
gonna tackle him like.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Like you know, has great reviews, you get old, just.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Not one hundred thousand great reviews like it. It's a
viral moment, and everyone will take that clip and run
with it. People think like viral does not always mean
money on the track.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
But depending on the question you ask him, that causes
him to walk out O J.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Simpson, that's international news.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Okay, possibly, but I can't. But that's not what I'm
here to do. I'm not here to have a viral
ten seconds. I'm here to actually get OJ's first real
sit down interview talking about his whole life. And ultimately
he passed away, so I never got it. You know,
would it probably gone well? Probably? But as a small business,
I can't take one hundred thousand dollars risks. I mean
(50:34):
I could, but it's not good business sense to do that.
I'm a CEO, I have a dozen employees, I have
office space, I have people who depend on me to
pay their rent. So I can't just sit there and
gamble a hundred thousand with someone who doesn't want to work.
Speaker 7 (50:49):
With me, doing conversation like how close to his passing.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Look a year, you think, oh you did it. Yeah,
we're you gonna ask him about did he do? Was
that going to be one of the things I want
to dance around it somewhat?
Speaker 7 (51:02):
He wrote a book it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
I did it. If I did it, If I did
I think, I think you did. I mean I even interviewed,
uh Kato Kaitlin, you know who was there when it
all happened, and he was telling me how like you know,
after it happened and everyone's in the house and Kato's
in the house, and he was like, uh, yeah, Kato's
with me the whole time. He knows that Kados like
how was out with you? We went to McDonald's and
came back and then you disappeared for a while, Like
(51:26):
you know, He's like, I gotta get the hell up
out of here.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I do wish you know? Did you? And I'm glad
That's why I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (51:31):
I'm glad you started that series where you're talking to
people about their business and how they make money off YouTube,
because like the stuff that you just said even a
little while ago, like just that business aspect of it,
it's not worth one hundred thousand. I want to hear
more of that because I think that these kids are
dellusional as to what people are making online.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Well well, okay, so so if you go to the
blat TV YouTube channel, YouTube dot comslas flat tv, we
have two tiers of membership. So we have the regular tiers,
so for five dollars you can get the full interview
on the first day, but then there's one hundred dollars tiers,
which is the lad TV YouTube Masterclass, where I actually
have exclusive interviews where it talks about, you know, with
people like academics and ten ninety Jake and people like
(52:10):
that that actually have shown how they've built their YouTube
businesses to make hundreds of thousands or even millions of
dollars off their channel, as well as I have lessons
where I break down exactly what I did. I actually
show my studio, I show the equipment, I show the
money that's made and so forth, actually showing people how
to build up YouTube channels. And you know, it's been
it's been great. A lot of people have joined up.
You know, we do live sessions, and I think it's
(52:33):
really dope to kind of give back to show people
because so many people have made careers. Like I said,
Terrence Kanster Williams have made careers off of YouTube channels
to the point where they can just work at home.
You know, for example, like Trench's News. You know that
clip is coming out I think today, where he makes
over one hundred thousand a year. He doesn't even show
his face, wears a mask the whole time, and he
(52:55):
does these stories about Chicago in his bedroom and he
could support himself and his family. He's made. I think
he has kids to just do these types of YouTube
channels and they don't have to get like a nine
to five job. They work for themselves, They decide when
they want to work. They create their own content. A
lot of these guys edited themselves also, So yeah, you
too masterclass.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
With the people that you're talking about, right that's making
money online and like they're becoming the outlets. The Complex
hip hop media list just dropped. Yeah, and it always
caused the controversy, but this year I think people were
particularly arguing most about like you got Considant on the
list and then poy Max you're on the list, academics
on the list. Is there people that you think should
not be on the list or should have been on
that list because you you're helping people come up in
(53:36):
this game that are being placed there.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
I think the list is relatively accurate. You were five,
I was six. I'm always just flattered to be on
these lists. I remember I was scrolling up from thirty
and I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna be on this year.
That's cool, you know. And then I was like six.
I'm like, okay, that's cool. Like I thought I was
a little hotter last year than this year, but they
want to give it to me. I'll take that. I
think everyone, like the Kai Sinots of the world, that
they have pushed the envil hope to create something new
(54:01):
the streaming platform. I think black Boy Max is like
number four or something more on that list. Like these
guys you know and girls have come come and created
something that really has not been around before. And you
can't deny what Kay Sanad has done. I mean he's
had Nicki Minaj and all these other you know, Kevin
Hart's and all these other major celebrities on his stream
(54:22):
and they've all looked good being on that strip.
Speaker 10 (54:29):
Being messy. This is all just great positive content.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
That's true. Look, I've never I've never really hated unless
you've hated on me first. I've always been like, yo,
that's dope. And I've had people like Neon, you know,
on my platform. I admire what they've done. Like when
Neon said he spends two hundred thousand a month just
to pay people to clip his content, you know, and
that's on the Flag TV two Masterclass, I'm like, huh,
(54:54):
that's that's interesting. That's impressive, you know, to to invest
that type of money back into your own business, especially
when you're a relatively young person. I think it's amazing.
You guys had one to show that was a whole
how you fucked about the view. I didn't really watch it,
to be honest, but I guess you brought up some
racist comments that he had done in the past.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Everything I didn't even know about.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
I didn't know about that either.
Speaker 4 (55:17):
I didn't know.
Speaker 7 (55:18):
Yeah, I know the stuff that how you want the
Internet and you don't know.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
I did like the.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
Stuff later, I didn't know about all that I knew.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
I knew about and that stuff, but I found that
out like thirty minutes before the interview.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah, I don't follow the Dion's of the world.
Speaker 4 (55:32):
The same I'm fifty.
Speaker 7 (55:34):
Two, but you don't.
Speaker 6 (55:35):
I mean I didn't, so I don't follow neon either.
But when he was coming here, the minute I typed
his name and TikTok, those were the first things that
came up.
Speaker 4 (55:42):
Yeah, you ain't playing what he was?
Speaker 7 (55:43):
I did?
Speaker 4 (55:44):
You played one?
Speaker 7 (55:45):
I played?
Speaker 1 (55:45):
We didn't.
Speaker 7 (55:45):
I mean we moved on after that. I had. We
had a whole conversation before I came in here, didn't
we you weren't here.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
I thought about all the stuff that she played the other.
Speaker 6 (55:54):
Day, a new conversation, like I mean stuff before the interview.
Speaker 9 (55:59):
You just knew about that, not all.
Speaker 8 (56:00):
Of the stuff, but this relatively, because he was saying
a bunch of ship.
Speaker 10 (56:07):
We were here.
Speaker 9 (56:08):
She played a video.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
The video.
Speaker 10 (56:11):
She was not.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
The black.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
I can assure you that if that was looking. I
don't do my own research sometimes, like you know, my
assistant Evan does a lot of the research for me,
so sometimes we miss certain things. I could assure you
that if I had known about that, it would have
been brought up in the interview, because I talked about
him faking his death and stuff like that. I assure
you that if it was in my notes, I would
have included I was that softballing neon on any level,
(56:41):
But certain things would just kind of slip past me.
After the fact. They'd be like, oh, why did you
ask about that? It's like, oh, you're.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Right, sometimes forgot about I can.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Tell you that that was just a gap that we had,
and I would have brought it up, But in this case,
I didn't bring it up, but I brought up a
lot of other controversial stuff in that interview.
Speaker 6 (56:58):
Do you ever get tired of people tell you that
you should be more of like a fan of the
culture and not an actual commentator because you're not black. No,
When the Princeton thing happened with the lady we talked
about earlier that worked there, why did you decide to
apologize in that situation.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
Well, because a person that was very close to me,
you know, had a conversation about it. You know, they
want to be left out of the conversations. I'm not
going to say who it is, but someone that everyone
here knows, and they sort of explained to me that, like,
look like this is just an online back and forth.
It shouln't affect people's jobs. So the fact that I
like tagged Princeton. You know. When I responded to her,
I'm like, yeah, that was fucked up, you know the
(57:35):
end of the day though, But you guys addressed it
as well. I still feel that someone who works for
an IVY league, you know, university like Princeton, because I
went to UC Berkeley myself, which is kind of like
an IVY league, you know, in his own right, Like
people of that caliber should be held to a higher standard.
So when someone says, you know, and if you look
at that whole situation, all I said was the mixed
(57:59):
quality of Kendrick's not like us takes away from the
song a little bit. His actual engineer later on came
forward and said, yeah, Kendrick called me and said put
this out in thirty minutes, and I had to just
throw throw a rough mix together and throw it out.
The final mix was actually improved. So all I said
was I didn't say the song was whack. I didn't
(58:21):
say it was important, it wasn't important, and so forth.
I said, the mix quality slightly takes away from it.
And her response was, you are white. This is black
people's business.
Speaker 7 (58:31):
I'm black folk affair.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Black folk affair, and I'm like, this is a prince
a professor saying this, this is crazy.
Speaker 5 (58:38):
You walked to some of these studios, you'd be surprised
most of these mixes that are mixing these records are white.
Speaker 4 (58:43):
White.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
I didn't realize, right. I also didn't realize at the time,
you know, based on her name, that this is Rodney
Jerkins's niece. I know Rodney Jerkins. I interviewed him at
his home in Hidden Hills. We were maintaining contact. So
the first thing that happen, and I think maybe a
day later, you know, when I apologized and said, listen,
I was just trolling. I never called Princeton. I never
(59:05):
tried to get her to lose her job. I was
just I thought she was trolling me with that comment.
So I'm like trolling her back, right, I never did
anything to that regard, and the last I checked, she's
still a Princeton. Right. So the first thing Rodney, you know,
Rodney hit me. He's like, hey man, thank you for
not getting body's fired. I'm like, I was never gonna
get a fire. So we got on the phone and
the first thing I did was like, EO, Rodney, like
you're you're a mega producer. Like my comment about the
(59:28):
mixed quality. Is like, let me stop you, because you're
absolutely right the mix quality was bad. So I was
a little insulted. I'm like, here's a person who is
a professor, I think in literature or something like something
like that telling me a DJ, someone who listens to
audio every single day. Because I put out video and
audio every day. I got my headphones on listening to audio.
(59:51):
I know what I'm talking about when I say the
audio qualities is a little bit off, and this person
who doesn't know anything about audio tells me to shut
the hell up because I'm White's so funny. I got
kind of consulting. I got kind of insulting. I'm sorry.
I thought that was ridiculous. I thought that was ridiculous.
(01:00:14):
But listen, I know Kendrick. We we've had conversations together,
Like I know TD, Like I know what I'm talking about.
I was like, this is crazy coming from someone's got
Princeton in their profile. But at the end of the day,
I didn't want her to lose her job, so let
me just apologize for that part of what I said,
and she didn't lose her job.
Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
That wasn't a societal issue, though there was no reason
to bring race into that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah, it's a song.
Speaker 10 (01:00:38):
They not like us, right, So I.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Just want to say this, like you see Kendrick doing
his like European tour, just a sea of white people,
a sea of white people, exactly, a sea of white people,
so they can't comment on it after they bought their.
Speaker 10 (01:00:58):
Tickets singing lyrics were for word.
Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
I just thought that was weird for her to bring
up a race when you were talking about sound quality,
because people don't know your background, right, And I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
They don't know you, Yeah, I think you know.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
I just want to say, I appreciate you guys for
having my back on that. You guys, I really appreciate that,
just honest.
Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
I was going to say, even if she knew your background,
I think it goes to the thing we was talking
about earlier, like people just feeling like you shouldn't be
here just because of what they perceive you as because
of other stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Well, I'm here, so it is what it is. I'm here.
I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Did the coachure bult your claims even bother you? No?
Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
No, what are you thinking about?
Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
Do you ever look at some white people say okay,
well that is a coach of Boult, But I'm not that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Well the dude with the black face, you know, the guy,
the guy that did the g Herbo, the Freeman guy.
I mean, yeah, if you got black face, you're a
culture vulture black people. But then you're doing black face,
you know, behind the scenes, So that's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
I did want to ask you what before you go,
what did you think about?
Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
And I listen list of just lists, but what did
you think about Adam twenty two not being in there
at all?
Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
He should be on there? Yeah, absolutely, Like for example,
like I would take Rory Mall off that list and
put out him on that list. Yeah, because when you
look at viral moments and so forth, Like I mean, god,
like remember fourth of July four Extra getting his hand
blown off. How do we even know about four Extra
because a no Jumper. That's the only reason we know
about him. Like, he's had so many viral moments, you
(01:02:22):
know that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
But who was four Extra?
Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
You didn't see the video to die with the firework?
Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
What did they have to do it?
Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Well, he's a no but he's a he's a personality
that was on No Jumper and then he lit a
firework and blew off his hand and I heard a
blue off half a guy's face. Also crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
You know most of the big, the big un rolling
sixty old that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
All that was jumper, Yes, jumper, Yeah, it was all like, yeah,
brick Baby was a jumper. He was also you know,
doing my show as well. Like, no, jumper definitely affects
the culture. So to leave him totally off the list,
but you put Rory Mall on the list, This doesn't
make a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
I think Complex has to do a better and maybe
all of us gotta do a of defining. I guess
what is culture and what is determined what is considered
hip hop media? Because somebody, you know, hand going off
from a fire crack it on seem like hip hop
media and even the big U stuff and all of
that that's not hip hop. Well some of them guys
rappers though, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Yeah, I mean for extra as a song, he did
a song with Kevin Gates.
Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
I guess to me, when I look at it, and
I'm just I'm not even putting myself in comments.
Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
I look at like Gene Views.
Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
You're talking about real impact.
Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
No, Rob Markman, No, I'm not saying real impact, Like
definitely an impact. I'm talking about like the people who
actually comment on hip hop as we know.
Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
It, the music, the culture, Rob Markman, gena views, But.
Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
But Rob Markman, like what is last time something he's
done has gone really viral and has really affected the
culture like that, I haven't really seen content. I know
you could be consistent, but if you don't make an impact,
you shouldn't be on that list. There's people that are
really good at what they do, but if you don't
get it out to the masters, if it's not really
picked up and it's not moving the needle, and you
can't be on that list.
Speaker 7 (01:04:00):
I think the definition then has to be impact.
Speaker 6 (01:04:02):
Because when I said that, because I know no Jumper
is like a part of the conversation, what I meant
is like you're talking about people who are like doing
like the rap list and the all that talk music.
Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
Like Max is a perfect person to be on there
because every time I see him, yeah he's rapping, he's
doing music, he's interviewing artists like that what I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
But then they also mentioned coverage on the Diddy case. Right,
it was somebody that did coverage on the did but
Lauren should have been on that list down. There was
nobody that covered more about that case, that did more interviews,
that had stations and networks calling her about that.
Speaker 10 (01:04:33):
She was in every.
Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Possible security team.
Speaker 8 (01:04:47):
But Lauren was in a court every day. I'm talking
about from the time they started to the time they ended.
She was breaking it down. She was still keeping up
and man, kids was walking up on a flat.
Speaker 9 (01:04:58):
Man.
Speaker 10 (01:04:58):
It's like it was a lot going on. So she
should have been on.
Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
The Yeah, I mean, look like it's all it's all
a journey, you know, like some of the stuff that
you do will not always be recognized in the short
term and the long term if you stay consistent. Like, look,
this is now seventeen years of just YouTube. Right before that,
there was a few years of DVDs. Seventeen yeah, two
thousand and eight, two thousand and eight, that's when I
launched my channel to twenty twenty five, that's seventeen years
(01:05:24):
plus I was doing I was doing DVDs, which you were,
you know, I was talking to you during that time.
I was twenty years.
Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
YouTube became in two thousand and six, what SORRT When
did YouTube like start?
Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
YouTube started a little bit earlier, But in two thousand
and eight, that's when they introduced a partner program, which
I actually turned into a real business. So yeah, I
had videos on YouTube before them, but there was just
little promo videos, trailers or whatever else. But in two
thousand and eight, when you could actually start making money
with YouTube, that's when I just saw the vision. I
stopped DJing, I stopped doing DVDs, I stopped hustling on
the side. It was like, Okay, let me just do
(01:05:54):
this period and put all my energy into it, because this
is about to be the biggest video platform on earth.
And I was right trying.
Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
To figure out when we first started doing interviews to
be like eight, right.
Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
About that time you wait or nine. Yeah, we were
already friends.
Speaker 7 (01:06:12):
A little bit later now, because I did.
Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
I got fired from Philly, and when.
Speaker 6 (01:06:17):
I got from I went, yeah exactly, which is crazy,
glad because when I left my job, we talked somebody
from your team, or I thought, were you. We talked
a bit about me potentially coming over. You'd be having
like an I early for things.
Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
And I tried to well. Originally, I was born in
Ukraine in Kieva, was part of the uss HARD at
the time. I grew up in Massachusetts for a couple
of years, but I really spent most of my time
in the Bay Area, so I grew up in San Mateo,
and then I went to school in UC Berkeley, so
I was in Berkeley, Oakland for about ten years. To
New York. L A.
Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
You know, well, we appreciate you for doing I do
know you're not aspired from the Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Charlotte made need to come back to black TV. I
hit him up the other day. I, Yo, it's been
three years since he did blat TV because I did
Academics a couple of nights ago. He's like, Charlotte, not
rock with You're like, no, we're talking, but we just
haven't scheduled anything. And I did him up.
Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
When I told lad and I haven't told you I
wanted to do a whole I wanted all of us
to do it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yeah, and I said, do let us do it. But
I'm like, yo, it's been three years. I've done two
breakfast club appearances and a brilliant idiot appearance. His appearance
and I'm like, come on, I'm coming.
Speaker 8 (01:07:26):
I ain't coming unless I get that's coming.
Speaker 9 (01:07:32):
And my brother mall DJ Breakfast Morning. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Every day a week ago. Click your ass up the
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
I'm finished for y'all. Done,