December 10, 2025 • 31 mins
Today on the show Loren was joined again by her producer TaylorMade It where they discussed 3 types of men in this world. First up is Michael B. Jordan who mentioned he wanted kids on David Letterman's upcoming episode of his show "My Next Guest". Next they speak on Liangelo Ball explaining his feelings towards bringing children in the world and not liking his partner. Lastly, she ends with discussing Jeezy saying he wants a life partner instead of marriage on TD Jakes podcast. The moral of the story, nothing is guaranteed but its ok to set intentions with what you want!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Right, Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's Lauren lo Roza and this is the latest with
Laura le Roza. This is your DELI dig on all
things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations
that shake the room. Baby Now, yesterday in our episode,
and I thought about this after we recorded. I was like,
I'm like, oh, Taylor's back on the episode, and I'm like, yo,
we are like four million plus more people since Taylor has.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Been on the podcast. I didn't even introduce who Taylor
was to all of those people who may not know.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I mean, if you listen to Brilliant Idiots or watch
Brilliant Idiots with Charlemagne Andrew Scharltz, then you know Taylor.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know Taylor Gain.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Taylor Made It or Breakfast Club also because she's one
of the producers at the Breakfast Club. She does all
of our imaging, which is like all of the like
intros to the segments and all that like good music
that you hear before you know the segments happened. But
for those of you guys who do not know. I
want to introduce the legend of Icon and my sister girl,
uh Taylor.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Taylor made it.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
She's been actually the person that was producing and editing
a podcast from day one. But Taylor had a baby,
so she just came back from maternity leave.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yes, yes, hey y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, as my good girl Sis said, I am tilamated,
and you know I have my whole business, Tilimated Productions.
So if you want quality audio podcasts, come on let me.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes, And I am so excited for Taylor to be
back cause Taylor and I've loved all of the other
editors and you know people that we've worked with, but
Taylor particularly, like from day one, I've been learning how
to podcast and even with like not rushing through and
speaking fast and just different things. And she's always very
(01:57):
very honest with me about where things can be better.
And she's worked around so many great podcasts that have
been you know, around for years. So I was like, Taylor,
when you're coming back? And then she told me that
she wouldn't mind coming to the studio because we would
be sending her this audio anyway. So as we kick
off and get started, y'all know, we check in behind
the scenes of the grind, because that's just what we do,
(02:19):
and that just means, how were you really feeling when
you're moving, when you're grooving.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Sometimes it's just it takes over and you don't really
check in on how you feel, nor do you stop
to ask your own self that I'm telling her how
you feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I feel like I was just thinking to myself, I'm like,
I really feel I've been feeling an adult but now
being a mom, Like I just went to go get
my son's birth certificate and like it's just it's like
why I did this, Like, yeah, like I've been a
very productive mother today.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, I'm glad to hear that you're feeling good.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I know, like you know, after having a baby and
getting back to work, there's so much like adjustment that
you know, and you talked about this in our episode yesterday.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Please check that out if you guys haven't heard it already.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But just figuring out like what your new like schedule
is and day to day that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I feel like I have to be invent myself because
I'm I'm about to move into certain spaces. Still about audio,
and production. But yeah, just just leveling up. Basically, I
love a love made it productions. I come if you
want my services, consultation, all that like it.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Don't play with her.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And even if I wasn't with black effects, which I mean,
where else would I be?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But before I actually had a podcast still with black effects.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
When I was just in Delaware, I was guest hosting
a little bit on The Breakfast Club, and I was like,
I want to do a podcast. I really just wanted
to do a show in general. But I hit up
Taylor and was like, hey, can you build an intro
for me? And she, you know, was amazing, like turned
it around. And I didn't even have the best audio
then either, and she still made it like feel and
(03:56):
sound so official. And I know a lot of my
friends were hitting me up even then, like, yo, did
your intro for you?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
So this is who? Okay this Italy? Yeah when you
guess hosted too, that made you that one?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So yeah, every yeah, every time you guys hear my
segment intro on the Breakfast Club, it's Taylor. She does
everything for the Breakfast Club with the intros and stuff.
But people always ask me about that intro too, and
I'm like, I send them your Instagram and your website
all the time. So tailor made of productions, he said, yes,
Taelor maadea Productions dot com. Yeah, so now y'all have
a proper introduction on Taylor.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But checking in.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I have been feeling like I was just saying earlier
off camera. Today I started kind of like behind the
eight ball because I woke up late.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I was rushing into the show.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So I told myself after the day ended, I got
through the day, find at a great day the morning.
We had a great show today, But I felt like
I was like chasing the day all morning like, and
I don't like feeling like that. I like to feel
like I'm dominating the day and I'm pacing my day
and this morning and today I just didn't feel that way.
(04:58):
I felt like I was like running to keep up.
But I wanted to share a text message that my mentor.
I called it like my second mom. Her name is
Lori Hayes.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Be my cousin.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh, yes to hers. Her name is Lori Hayes and
she is I met her in high school. She was
my one of my guidance counselors. Basically in high school
and she saved my life. If it wasn't for her
coming into my life, I don't think I would have
finished high school like my mom needed. I mean, I
think my mom just really needed an additional person outside
of herself to help guide me through the things that
(05:29):
I was facing. And it's like, you know, I'm entering
high school or whatever, and she unknowingly came into my
life and was that. So I always thank God for her.
But she randomly texted me yesterday at eleven twenty am
and she said, you were on my mind this morning.
Just want you to know I love you and I'm
praying for you. You are powerful beyond measure. Keep manifesting
the glory that is within you. You were born for this.
Remember to keep the main thing, the main thing, whatever
(05:52):
that thing is for you. Don't forget to take care
of my baby girl. And when I heard that, I'm like,
because I've been like the feeling that I had today
of like chasing to day, I've been feeling like that
just about life in general over these last couple of
weeks because things have just been NonStop. Yeah, she also
texted me and this was random, but you know, like
again that intuition that like moms and people who love
(06:14):
you have. She also texted me and was like, don't
be afraid to say no. Everything that is a go
isn't good good Yeah, And I've been just you know
on my like hustle bustle.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
That's do you feel now with the opportunity that you have,
that you do feel like you have to.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Say yeah? Can't say yeah no, Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't feel like I have to say yes to
everything I did in the beginning, and I was so
burnt out. I was like burnt out like this, like
I was showing up to this podcast with like the
energy of a of a freaking naol. Like it was
bad by the time I got to the podcast every
day and just my weekends, like I had nothing. I
was so burnt out and it was messing up. She's
talking about keeping the main thing, the main thing. I
(06:56):
was like messing up really really bad with Breakfast Club
because like I wasn't able to as much because I
was so tired and exausted, barely sleeping, so I had
to say no and learn and say no.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
But I do think in these.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Last couple of weeks, I have said yes to things
because I really wanted to do them or experience them,
and some of which may have thrown off. Like I've
gotten into this like schedule and it's like consistent, Like
I have to do things a certain way, and I
never realized it's about myself until all of the things started,
(07:27):
and you know, the breakfast club because it's so early
in the morning, and I have prepped that I do
have to show. But I have to do things a
certain way when it comes to prepairing my stories, like
I need to actually, like in real time, watch as
things unfold, you know, watch a ton of interviews, connect
this interview to that one, and you know, all of
these different things that if I miss one step, it
can throw me off completely. And I've always been like that.
(07:50):
That's why I don't like people watching interviews for me
and just telling me what the you.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Know, you're gonna catch something that's someone else to do
one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And I've always been that way, where like I need
to be fully like in it in order to like
best maneuver in a situation or to recount things or whatever.
So with me now, like I'm coming up out of
those couple of bookings and I'm looking forward to like
I've been looking forward to this week so much because
I could just get back into that schedule. But the
(08:17):
first few days of this week, I've just been like
after work doing as much as i can, and it's
knocking out because I've been catching up from all the yeses.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Out and give our me right.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So when she texted me that, I'm like, this is God.
Like God always shows up. And you know, last time
somebody told me that it was Charlomagne, like keep the
main thing, the main thing, because I felt off my
like pivot a little bit. So that was like that
has been that text message has been sitting with me
all day, and I literally just told myself today I'm
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going to like reset when I leave here, I'm going
to go into some praise and worship.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'm gonna completely reset because whatever this.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Feeling of like running and I'm chasing but I'm not
catching up, That's how it feels.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It feels like I'm running but I'm never catching up.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I'm not even about to allow that energy to sit
within my spirit for longer than these forty eight hours
that I've been feeling it or twenty four hours that
i've been feeling it.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So I was gonna say too, make sure you also
have a routine for your self care in a sense.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm still developing that. I don't think you and I
have that or not anything. I don't have that, but
we'll figure that all out. Let's get into that.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
But so speaking.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Of you know, just seeing things as they unfold, yesterday
just in me minding my business, not really mind everybody
else's business.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
On X I saw a clip that Netflix had posted
with Michael B. Jordan. So he's going to be on
David Letterman's My next guest needs no introduction, which is
like it's like a sit down interview series. But Michael B.
Jordan and him. I saw this and I'm like, what,
MICHAELA be Jordan? Ready for kids? Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
But but I forge start off with like plants and dogs.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
I see if I can.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
If I can take care of a plant, I should
be able to get dog.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, you know I have a shot.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You will love it and I'll be wondering what took
me so long?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So, I mean that was just a short teaser clip
and that's the way that they roll it out. So
the interview will actually be live in about a week.
It'll be live on December sixteenth, and they shot this
in London.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Michael B. Jordan is in London.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
He's been there for a few months actually, he's actually
been there since like March filming the Thomas Crown affair.
I mean, Michael Jordan's thirty years old. I looked it
up when you asked, he's thirty eight years old. So
I mean he's at that point where it's like, Okay,
you know I'm thirty to dang, I was gonna say
I'm thirty three.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I'm thirty four.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I'm thirty four years old, and I don't want kids
like today or tomorrow. But I'm definitely having conversations about
what my life looks looks like when I have kids
a lot differently than I was two to three years ago,
Like it's more real now because it's like, okay, age wise,
you're getting there, but also too, I just think I'm
at a point in my life where the things that
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I'm doing eventually, I'm doing them because I want to
be able to have children and build a family that
I can enjoy it with. And he's amassed a great
success like at thirty eight. He is one of the
most sought after actors. Like not just people love to
talk about Michael B. Jordan like he's like the black actor,
like the young black actor that everyone goes to. And
I know, now, damn some Idris also, you know, people
(11:34):
throw him in there when they have that conversation. But yeah,
but even outside of just a black actor. As an actor,
Michael B. Jordan literally is like he's one of the
Like he is the name, he's.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
One of the names.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So he has done enough now where I'm sure he's
looking around and he's like, Okay, who I'm gonna share
this with.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
He's probably been like that. I think he's a relationship
type of guy. It seems like it.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I mean, his dating history is pretty you know, he's
he's had some good picks. One of the last people
that we knew him to be dating was Lori Harvey,
Steve Harvey's daughter. They were dating from twenty twenty to
twenty twenty two and they broke up and people were
having all these conversations about why they broke up.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
We really don't know the.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Real and he said the rumors where that he wanted
that was yeah, like that whatever the rumors were that
he was ready for a certain next step when it
comes to all the things he's talking about right now,
honestly with marriage and children, and that that's not where
she was at, but that was never confirmed.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
But now twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Twenty five in March, he was spotted out with Taylor Russell,
who is one of his co stars, and which is
why he's in London, or was in London at least
when they shot this. I don't know where he is
this very day, but it's a reboot of Thomas Crown affair.
People think that they're dating, and neither of the two
have shot down the roomor nor have they confirmed it.
So I don't know where his dating life is now,
(12:59):
but I'm sure we'll find out more on you know,
this conversation, Yeah, with David Letterman, but I'm not mad
at him for saying he's starting with plants and dogs.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Okay. I have seen some people be like, good luck
with that, Michael B.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Jordan, like if we taking it to the streets and
the tweets, I'm gonna read some of the comments that
I saw, But I mean, Taylor, you just recently had
a baby and you were a dog mom.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yes, it was before you had a baby, and not
compare your baby to a dog.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Okay, well let me be very clear, eyes stand on this.
My dog will always be my son. And but honestly,
when it comes to even like for you for your
instance of like wanting to start a family and stuff, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Do feel like.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Now having a baby, because I was always worried about that,
like how's it gonna fall into this type of industry
in the sense. Yeah, but I do think that at
least for me, things fell together more than a part honestly,
And like I don't think I gonna be ready for
I don't think I think it's hard to plan for
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a kid. Yeah, when the kid is here, these are
gonna come together.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm not worried about it per se, Like I mean,
it's something that I've never done obviously, but I'm not
really worried about it. When I went through, like when
I first started this carecaker journey, things were like really rough,
like really really a rough, like like extremely rough, and
I had to plan my whole life, my work, my
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whole everything, my day day to day around not just me,
but like also my mom. And when I started to
come kind of like up out of it a little bit.
I just I don't know, I just had this like
random thought, and I felt like it was like a
conversation with God even though it was just a random thought.
But I was like, I used to be so worried
about becoming a mom because I've never done it. And
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I was like, I think I got this, Like I
I handled the shit out of that situation, like figuring
out life for me and my mom at that time.
Can we like, yeah, it was just natural, Like it
was just a natural and she's my mom. Of course
she's not my child, but you know, my mom's like
stage four cancer. And put my mom to a point
where like she could even bathe herself in the beginning
of me care for her normally feed herself. So I
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mean when I say like you're tending to someone, I
mean like, and I'm waking up around the clock making
sure that she has certain medicines and like we were
barely sleeping for about the first like three months.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
When I got through that, I was like I could
do this mom thing, yo, Like I don't have to
figure it out.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It's a little different, but it also helps to have
a great partner too, though one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh that's all I speak on my life. That's all
I speak on my life. I don't want to do
it without a great partner.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And I want everybody, you know, if you're listening to this,
please at me. I'm Laura La Rosa l O r
e N l O r O s A everywhere. Let
me know how you guys feel. If you are watching this,
take it to the streets. Any tweets get in the comments.
People are killing Michael be Jordan for saying this because
and I don't know. I mean, I feel like he
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was jokingly saying it, but I think there are some
like onwus.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Oh about the plants and dogs.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I think it's just a thing of him saying he's
learning how to be responsible for something other.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So but people are like, bro, it's a baby. It's
so different.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Let me tell you something, because I had people were
like saying that to me. Now having a dog and
a child, Like, yes, having a baby is different in
a sense, but like you just said, having a dog,
because even when I had a dog, I had to
make sure he's being fed though, like I'm going back
home to make sure he's being fed at least twice
a day and stuff, and he has to be walked like, no,
(16:37):
you're not doing that to your child. But at the
same time, like you just said, it's responsibility though, like
you have you have to kind of get a routine in.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I just love the fact that he thinks are hard
to care about.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I never once tried to be a plant mom because
I just knew I didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Have it in me. Yeah, all of the watering of
the plant, the positioning it, and the light the right
way house has to be a certain temperature for certain plants,
like y'all.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Really that man alone, if he working on if he
working with plants, a dog, a baby born, I.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Don't even air exactly, but I don't think people whoever
is mad at him and then like they're taking it
to literal like he's people say everything, yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I just think that in my opinion, I think if
you look at Michael by Jordan, right, he's young, he's
at the height of his career, super successful, obviously attractive,
and he is being it seems intentional about wanting to
create a family. You got men out here that are
just having babies with any old body, people that they
barely even want to speak to on a day to
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day and are you are.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You talking to?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Who?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Say it? Leangelo Wall? I mean if we want to
go there.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like it's and I mean whether you're being made successful
or not. I just think that you should be more
intentional about even if you're not planning to have the kid.
And it seems like he is making preparations and plans
because he knows that he wants it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I admire that.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But even if you're not in the space of like
planning the kid, I think that should at least be
some responsibility on who you laying down with, just in
case it happened, like, just in case y'all got to
become partners in a co parenting situation. Do you even
like the person you laying down with? Because speaking of
Leangelo Ball, right, we watched him have a baby with
Miss Nikki Baby, who's you know, she's all love and
(18:32):
hip hop influencer. Comes from a very well established, rich family.
So she didn't need li Angela Ball for the money.
She thought she had a partnership. They had a baby too,
Oh yeah, because it was a new baby when he left. Yeah,
so they had she had just had her new baby
and he decided he didn't want to be there anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Now. Granted, even at.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Things happen, you decide Okay, look, this is not where
I want to be cool, But the way that he
went about it over cord over Miss Nikki Baby, like
not wanting to be in your kid's life because it
didn't work out with you and your person.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I don't really, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I don't feel that, and I know that him and
Sneaky Baby we're not strangers, but it seems like I'm
confused about where his intention is, even when it comes
to just the women and just the kids. Like if
you know you don't want to be with somebody and
be with a partner, okay, I don't want to see
I think people think that you have to stay with
somebody just because that's just the way it's supposed to be.
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Don't get me wrong. I don't want to ever be
divorced and go through any of that. But if we
are miserable and it's not working, I don't want my
child to see me grow up, like I don't want
them to see that, Like, but at least I want
them to see their dad, like can you show also
just as a dad?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Like how do you not want to see a child though,
Like I don't get that.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I want to say, because I know a lot of
times men try, and like I mean, I've been here
in my own real life, and my mom and my
dad were not together when I was growing up, and
my dad always alludes to it being so much more
to the story of why he chose not to be
involved for like thirteen fourteen years. But the way that
I feel, and I'm saying that to say, I don't know.
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We only know what we see online. We don't know
the full in house dynamic between lie Angela Baal and
Nikki Baby, right, So I don't know if he thought
I'm better off on no contact whatever, but you're never
better off no contact, Like I've literally told my dad that,
Like it doesn't matter what you were going through, especially
because at a certain point I got to an age
where you could contact me without my mom. You're never
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better off no contact, like as a parent, Like that's
extremely crazy. And then so she had another baby, Miss
Nicki Baby had another baby with Lianjoel Baal. He decided
that they did he didn't want to be with her anymore.
He moved on to another relationship again, it's not about
him moving on to another relationship. If you feel like
you need to do that, do your thing. But that
was crazy, though, I mean, would you.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I think my only take on it because I've also
been in a household where two people were together and
they should not have been. And I mean, I love
my brother's dad, my stepdad to death, but my some
of my memories of him and my mom are things
I wish I never had to see in my life.
And I was like nineteen years old and I'll never
forget it. But they shouldn't have been together, but they
were trying because my mom had my brother. So like,
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I kind of understand both sides of it, but I
still think it's trash for you to do that without
like like your kid didn't have to be here, like
there should still have played on support or like something
in place.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I don't know, that's a sticky situation.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Wait, lean Angel LaVall moved on and had another baby
with another girl who that.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
He forced he was forced to marry her. Yeah, I mean, well,
let's just play the clip.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I'm gonna go going through the emotions with her ass
Like she's like, I'm gonna do this this. Then I'm like, whatever,
all right, cool, whatever, nigga, cool, just getting whatever, a
nigga just doing anything.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
She's like, we're gonna get married, We're gonna do How
did you end up doing that? How did you end
up in the courtroom though? Brother?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Because like she off me there, nigga, I'm out there
about a cry in the whip, like niggas just gonna
jump to the I know, like you dumb ass nigga.
She has like niggas, she ain't has shit to be honest,
I don't like her ass like nigga to keep it
the band, just like, how the hell did that happen?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
How that shit?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Nigga? I don't know. I don't have that, not even
that bron. I don't even know, nigga. She had you
locked up, she was lying and shit, a whole bunch
of bad shit nigga.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean, look, it gets sticky all around. I
guess we got here because I was trying to big
up Michael B. Jordan for just wanting to be intentional,
whether you're gonna be with the mom or not be
with the mom, or women, if you're gonna be with
the dad or not be with the dad. I think
when we are as at certain big grown ages, we
gotta understand that there are accountability and you lay down,
(22:46):
you know what's about?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Like hello, Like we know how to get there.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
We know one plus mo equals two at thirty eight,
thirty five, twenty. You know how to make a kid.
And if both of you guys that are doing that
regardless of what happened. The baby didn't ask to be here, is.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Like my whole point of everything. Nothing is guaranteed in
this world but life and death.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, Like I think about that all the time as well,
like you know, and honestly that's been one of my struggles, accepting, accepting.
But because I watched my mom be a single mom
for so long and just figure it out, I've always
been so intentional about my career. I feel like I've
been more intentional about my career than anything else in
(23:27):
my life. Like I'm intentional about dating and like the
person that I'm with now, but I wasn't really that
for you know, after when I was single, I didn't
that wasn't I wasn't doing anything, but that wasn't a
focus because I was like, regardless of whatever, me and
my kid gonna be straight. And I didn't realize until
(23:48):
I got with a person who like, like even seeing
my kid, like he'll be like, you mean like if
we have kids, are our kids, And I'm like, dang,
I didn't even realize how much I'm programmed to just
be like like, well, if you got dip, go ahead,
because I'm straight.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
We straight over here.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, But do you think it's a control factor too,
that that's the only thing you can control.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred, Like the only day, the only
thing your promise in life is life and death. Like
the little bit of like career progression that you have,
you can't really control that. You try to, you try
to do, you know everything you can, but like you
can't control certain things, like you can't control a person
their feelings, their actions, like whatsoever. And that vulnerability is scared,
(24:30):
especially as a woman, like I said, who I've always
been like, I'm gonna make sure I'm super independent so
that just in case in my vulnerable is moment I'm disappointed,
I'm good And that's a sad way to have to think.
But I ain't really seen much of anything else, you
know what I mean. So I've always been that way.
And it actually that texts me to our next conversation.
(24:55):
I know we talked about GZ on yesterday's episode of
the podcast, but there was one part that I think
would really fit right now in this conversation as we
in the episode. So, Jez was on Next Chapter with
Bishop TD Jakes and they talk about everything from.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Life, love, career, health struggles, just a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
When they got into the conversation around Jes's divorce from
Genie MII. One thing that Jezi said that struck me.
Jez says that he doesn't want to be traditionally married.
He wants a life partner.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Let's listen, what would you do differently if the choice
comes up again?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
If I ever did it differently, I think that even
in the dating stages, like even like the day, like
we could be friends, but even in the dating stages,
I would want to do like some pre marital like
counselor absolutely. But you know what I'm saying is to
have somebody self kind of. But I will say this,
my heart of my spirit tells me, like now the
(25:52):
space I'm in, I just see life partner. If two
human beings can come together and come to some type
of understanding and build this bond that doesn't need a
piece of paper to validate it and say, hey, look
we're going to do life together. We're gonna make this work.
But I also want you to be okay, if this
(26:13):
doesn't work, what does that look like for you? Let's
talk about that. Let's get that together. Okay, you're good
with that. I'm good with that. We signed that, you sign,
we do whatever, we get the ring, we do all that.
What I never want to go through again. I don't
want that from anybody, because I know a lot of
brothers just been going through the court cases. Is seeing
these people take your money and send their kids to
(26:33):
college with your money because you're fight them because it
becomes adversarial. Well, let's just decide what it's going to
be and if you're good with that, if I'm good
with that, if it doesn't work, what you wanted to work,
but at least we got to understand and that we
can part ways and we can still be okay.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It sounds to me like he's a little traumatized from
all the money he had to spend, because I know,
so Okay, when Jez and Genie my divorce, when their
divorce was settled and their divorce was finalized in June
of twenty twenty four. So, following their divorce being finalized,
Genie Mai went back to court and she said that
Gzi owed her money for several different things that were
(27:13):
okayed in their divorce settlement.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Some of the things included.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
A five hundred thousand dollars payment to like an account
that would like grow interests for their daughter. She was
asking for like over ninety thousand dollars for a reimbursement
for like rent, and then she was you know, talking
about like some cars that ownership or something like that
(27:38):
was supposed to be transferred for, and there was a
hole back and forth about it. I know GZ at
one point was saying that like there was a lot
of frivolous claims that were coming her way that they
were having to go back to court for and he
wanted her to.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Pay the lawyer feedes for that.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
So it seems like that whole part of it, like, Yo,
we couldn't agree on things that we had already agreed on.
There was still a lot to be ironed out because
as if you're separating and you're dividing things, regardless of
how long they had been together, they begin building the
life together.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That kind of dramatized him a bit.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Genie Maid said that their divorce called for Gizi to
pay for her daycare calls, the baby's daycare calls, school
tuition for the child, deposit at least five hundred thousand
dollars in an interest bearing account for their daughter, transfer
the title to cars, and cover four months.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Of her rent.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
The thing is, Genie claimed that Gizi failed to follow
through on these things, and she says he's ghosting her
and hanging her out to dry now in the docks.
Genie claims that Gizi already owed her four thousand dollars
for tuition and child care calls, and she says that
she hasn't got access to the five one hundred thousand
dollar account he was supposed to set up for their
daughter like that, that five hundred thousand dollars, like that
stuff was ironed out in there, whatever their agreement was
(28:49):
going into the marriage and saying in case we split, right,
but she was going back and forth to court and
saying that it wasn't happening.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, it wasn't happening.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Know, a lot of the claims like Gez had fought
back against and we're saying that certain things weren't true,
or it seems like their communication and their timelines just
weren't there. Because even when she had brought up the
fact that like he had like guns in his home
or whatever to and and he was like she was
claiming that he was like careless with him, and his
(29:20):
side was claiming like, yo, like he's geezy, he has
and does things to protect himself, but everything is legal,
their kid is good when the baby's over the house
and things of that nature. And then there was like
a timeline, not timeline, but like basically almost like a
stock sheet that was supposed to be given to Genie
(29:40):
Mai about like here's everything that he has in his
home self protection wise, here's where everything will be stored,
especially when your daughter is there. And his side has
some issues with providing that because he was accusing her
leaking things to media.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
The communication just seems all over the place.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I just wonder what happened, Like what made them I
don't nothing is guaranteed in this life, but life or
dad tailor I'm trying. That sounds so morbid, but like
that's just how it is you look up if you
find a person who makes you want to grow through.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Whatever has exactly you know what I mean. And that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
It's like, regardless if it's of Michael be Jordan's type,
who is like I'm practicing right now because I'm intentional.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I want my kids.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's le Angelo Ball who is going through like whatever
it is he's going through and figuring it out.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
And god, you know, now he got.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
His other baby with the whole other girl who she's
claiming that her baby hasn't seen her kid at all yet.
I mean, her baby hasn't seen Leangelo Ball at all yet.
And then you have you know, Jezu, who's been through
these things and who is now a lot more accountable
and understands more of what he wants.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
But it might not be traditional. It's like you got
to really figure out, like where do you want to
be in all of this? I don't know. I just
hope all these people figure it out.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I hope Michael be Jordan and his plants are well
and doing well and very watered and you know, all
of the things. So yes, this has been another episode
of the Latest with Lauren the Rosa. I'm your host,
Laurena Rose, and I tell y'all every single episode my Lowriders,
y'all could.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Be here with anybody or anywhere with anybody talking about
all these things.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
But every episode, you guys choose, y'all got intentional about me.
I know that's right, y'all choose to be right here
with me. And I appreciate you guys for Taylor.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Thank you for joining us again. So now y'all know
who was doing all the editing, you know, with the
audio side.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Seaqua and Patrick Mrie on the editing of the video,
but Taylor is on the editing of the audio. My
girl in the intro of the podcast and all of
the trend of everything.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, yes, y'all curio and she is a Mamiana. Thank
you for joining us. Thank you guys for tuning in
for another episode. I'll catch you in the next one.
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Right, Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's Lauren lo Roza and this is the latest with
Laura le Roza. This is your DELI dig on all
things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations
that shake the room. Baby Now, yesterday in our episode,
and I thought about this after we recorded. I was like,
I'm like, oh, Taylor's back on the episode, and I'm like, yo,
we are like four million plus more people since Taylor has.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Been on the podcast. I didn't even introduce who Taylor
was to all of those people who may not know.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I mean, if you listen to Brilliant Idiots or watch
Brilliant Idiots with Charlemagne Andrew Scharltz, then you know Taylor.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know Taylor Gain.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Taylor Made It or Breakfast Club also because she's one
of the producers at the Breakfast Club. She does all
of our imaging, which is like all of the like
intros to the segments and all that like good music
that you hear before you know the segments happened. But
for those of you guys who do not know. I
want to introduce the legend of Icon and my sister girl,
uh Taylor.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Taylor made it.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
She's been actually the person that was producing and editing
a podcast from day one. But Taylor had a baby,
so she just came back from maternity leave.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yes, yes, hey y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, as my good girl Sis said, I am tilamated,
and you know I have my whole business, Tilimated Productions.
So if you want quality audio podcasts, come on let me.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes, And I am so excited for Taylor to be
back cause Taylor and I've loved all of the other
editors and you know people that we've worked with, but
Taylor particularly, like from day one, I've been learning how
to podcast and even with like not rushing through and
speaking fast and just different things. And she's always very
(01:57):
very honest with me about where things can be better.
And she's worked around so many great podcasts that have
been you know, around for years. So I was like, Taylor,
when you're coming back? And then she told me that
she wouldn't mind coming to the studio because we would
be sending her this audio anyway. So as we kick
off and get started, y'all know, we check in behind
the scenes of the grind, because that's just what we do,
(02:19):
and that just means, how were you really feeling when
you're moving, when you're grooving.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Sometimes it's just it takes over and you don't really
check in on how you feel, nor do you stop
to ask your own self that I'm telling her how
you feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I feel like I was just thinking to myself, I'm like,
I really feel I've been feeling an adult but now
being a mom, Like I just went to go get
my son's birth certificate and like it's just it's like
why I did this, Like, yeah, like I've been a
very productive mother today.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, I'm glad to hear that you're feeling good.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I know, like you know, after having a baby and
getting back to work, there's so much like adjustment that
you know, and you talked about this in our episode yesterday.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Please check that out if you guys haven't heard it already.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But just figuring out like what your new like schedule
is and day to day that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I feel like I have to be invent myself because
I'm I'm about to move into certain spaces. Still about audio,
and production. But yeah, just just leveling up. Basically, I
love a love made it productions. I come if you
want my services, consultation, all that like it.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Don't play with her.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And even if I wasn't with black effects, which I mean,
where else would I be?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But before I actually had a podcast still with black effects.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
When I was just in Delaware, I was guest hosting
a little bit on The Breakfast Club, and I was like,
I want to do a podcast. I really just wanted
to do a show in general. But I hit up
Taylor and was like, hey, can you build an intro
for me? And she, you know, was amazing, like turned
it around. And I didn't even have the best audio
then either, and she still made it like feel and
(03:56):
sound so official. And I know a lot of my
friends were hitting me up even then, like, yo, did
your intro for you?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
So this is who? Okay this Italy? Yeah when you
guess hosted too, that made you that one?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So yeah, every yeah, every time you guys hear my
segment intro on the Breakfast Club, it's Taylor. She does
everything for the Breakfast Club with the intros and stuff.
But people always ask me about that intro too, and
I'm like, I send them your Instagram and your website
all the time. So tailor made of productions, he said, yes,
Taelor maadea Productions dot com. Yeah, so now y'all have
a proper introduction on Taylor.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But checking in.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I have been feeling like I was just saying earlier
off camera. Today I started kind of like behind the
eight ball because I woke up late.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I was rushing into the show.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So I told myself after the day ended, I got
through the day, find at a great day the morning.
We had a great show today, But I felt like
I was like chasing the day all morning like, and
I don't like feeling like that. I like to feel
like I'm dominating the day and I'm pacing my day
and this morning and today I just didn't feel that way.
(04:58):
I felt like I was like running to keep up.
But I wanted to share a text message that my mentor.
I called it like my second mom. Her name is
Lori Hayes.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Be my cousin.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh, yes to hers. Her name is Lori Hayes and
she is I met her in high school. She was
my one of my guidance counselors. Basically in high school
and she saved my life. If it wasn't for her
coming into my life, I don't think I would have
finished high school like my mom needed. I mean, I
think my mom just really needed an additional person outside
of herself to help guide me through the things that
(05:29):
I was facing. And it's like, you know, I'm entering
high school or whatever, and she unknowingly came into my
life and was that. So I always thank God for her.
But she randomly texted me yesterday at eleven twenty am
and she said, you were on my mind this morning.
Just want you to know I love you and I'm
praying for you. You are powerful beyond measure. Keep manifesting
the glory that is within you. You were born for this.
Remember to keep the main thing, the main thing, whatever
(05:52):
that thing is for you. Don't forget to take care
of my baby girl. And when I heard that, I'm like,
because I've been like the feeling that I had today
of like chasing to day, I've been feeling like that
just about life in general over these last couple of
weeks because things have just been NonStop. Yeah, she also
texted me and this was random, but you know, like
again that intuition that like moms and people who love
(06:14):
you have. She also texted me and was like, don't
be afraid to say no. Everything that is a go
isn't good good Yeah, And I've been just you know
on my like hustle bustle.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
That's do you feel now with the opportunity that you have,
that you do feel like you have to.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Say yeah? Can't say yeah no, Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't feel like I have to say yes to
everything I did in the beginning, and I was so
burnt out. I was like burnt out like this, like
I was showing up to this podcast with like the
energy of a of a freaking naol. Like it was
bad by the time I got to the podcast every
day and just my weekends, like I had nothing. I
was so burnt out and it was messing up. She's
talking about keeping the main thing, the main thing. I
(06:56):
was like messing up really really bad with Breakfast Club
because like I wasn't able to as much because I
was so tired and exausted, barely sleeping, so I had
to say no and learn and say no.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
But I do think in these.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Last couple of weeks, I have said yes to things
because I really wanted to do them or experience them,
and some of which may have thrown off. Like I've
gotten into this like schedule and it's like consistent, Like
I have to do things a certain way, and I
never realized it's about myself until all of the things started,
(07:27):
and you know, the breakfast club because it's so early
in the morning, and I have prepped that I do
have to show. But I have to do things a
certain way when it comes to prepairing my stories, like
I need to actually, like in real time, watch as
things unfold, you know, watch a ton of interviews, connect
this interview to that one, and you know, all of
these different things that if I miss one step, it
can throw me off completely. And I've always been like that.
(07:50):
That's why I don't like people watching interviews for me
and just telling me what the you.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Know, you're gonna catch something that's someone else to do
one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And I've always been that way, where like I need
to be fully like in it in order to like
best maneuver in a situation or to recount things or whatever.
So with me now, like I'm coming up out of
those couple of bookings and I'm looking forward to like
I've been looking forward to this week so much because
I could just get back into that schedule. But the
(08:17):
first few days of this week, I've just been like
after work doing as much as i can, and it's
knocking out because I've been catching up from all the yeses.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Out and give our me right.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So when she texted me that, I'm like, this is God.
Like God always shows up. And you know, last time
somebody told me that it was Charlomagne, like keep the
main thing, the main thing, because I felt off my
like pivot a little bit. So that was like that
has been that text message has been sitting with me
all day, and I literally just told myself today I'm
(08:47):
going to like reset when I leave here, I'm going
to go into some praise and worship.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'm gonna completely reset because whatever this.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Feeling of like running and I'm chasing but I'm not
catching up, That's how it feels.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It feels like I'm running but I'm never catching up.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I'm not even about to allow that energy to sit
within my spirit for longer than these forty eight hours
that I've been feeling it or twenty four hours that
i've been feeling it.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So I was gonna say too, make sure you also
have a routine for your self care in a sense.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm still developing that. I don't think you and I
have that or not anything. I don't have that, but
we'll figure that all out. Let's get into that.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
But so speaking.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Of you know, just seeing things as they unfold, yesterday
just in me minding my business, not really mind everybody
else's business.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
On X I saw a clip that Netflix had posted
with Michael B. Jordan. So he's going to be on
David Letterman's My next guest needs no introduction, which is
like it's like a sit down interview series. But Michael B.
Jordan and him. I saw this and I'm like, what,
MICHAELA be Jordan? Ready for kids? Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
But but I forge start off with like plants and dogs.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
I see if I can.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
If I can take care of a plant, I should
be able to get dog.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, you know I have a shot.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You will love it and I'll be wondering what took
me so long?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So, I mean that was just a short teaser clip
and that's the way that they roll it out. So
the interview will actually be live in about a week.
It'll be live on December sixteenth, and they shot this
in London.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Michael B. Jordan is in London.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
He's been there for a few months actually, he's actually
been there since like March filming the Thomas Crown affair.
I mean, Michael Jordan's thirty years old. I looked it
up when you asked, he's thirty eight years old. So
I mean he's at that point where it's like, Okay,
you know I'm thirty to dang, I was gonna say
I'm thirty three.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I'm thirty four.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I'm thirty four years old, and I don't want kids
like today or tomorrow. But I'm definitely having conversations about
what my life looks looks like when I have kids
a lot differently than I was two to three years ago,
Like it's more real now because it's like, okay, age wise,
you're getting there, but also too, I just think I'm
at a point in my life where the things that
(11:11):
I'm doing eventually, I'm doing them because I want to
be able to have children and build a family that
I can enjoy it with. And he's amassed a great
success like at thirty eight. He is one of the
most sought after actors. Like not just people love to
talk about Michael B. Jordan like he's like the black actor,
like the young black actor that everyone goes to. And
I know, now, damn some Idris also, you know, people
(11:34):
throw him in there when they have that conversation. But yeah,
but even outside of just a black actor. As an actor,
Michael B. Jordan literally is like he's one of the
Like he is the name, he's.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
One of the names.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So he has done enough now where I'm sure he's
looking around and he's like, Okay, who I'm gonna share
this with.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
He's probably been like that. I think he's a relationship
type of guy. It seems like it.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I mean, his dating history is pretty you know, he's
he's had some good picks. One of the last people
that we knew him to be dating was Lori Harvey,
Steve Harvey's daughter. They were dating from twenty twenty to
twenty twenty two and they broke up and people were
having all these conversations about why they broke up.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
We really don't know the.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Real and he said the rumors where that he wanted
that was yeah, like that whatever the rumors were that
he was ready for a certain next step when it
comes to all the things he's talking about right now,
honestly with marriage and children, and that that's not where
she was at, but that was never confirmed.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
But now twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Twenty five in March, he was spotted out with Taylor Russell,
who is one of his co stars, and which is
why he's in London, or was in London at least
when they shot this. I don't know where he is
this very day, but it's a reboot of Thomas Crown affair.
People think that they're dating, and neither of the two
have shot down the roomor nor have they confirmed it.
So I don't know where his dating life is now,
(12:59):
but I'm sure we'll find out more on you know,
this conversation, Yeah, with David Letterman, but I'm not mad
at him for saying he's starting with plants and dogs.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Okay. I have seen some people be like, good luck
with that, Michael B.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Jordan, like if we taking it to the streets and
the tweets, I'm gonna read some of the comments that
I saw, But I mean, Taylor, you just recently had
a baby and you were a dog mom.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yes, it was before you had a baby, and not
compare your baby to a dog.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Okay, well let me be very clear, eyes stand on this.
My dog will always be my son. And but honestly,
when it comes to even like for you for your
instance of like wanting to start a family and stuff, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Do feel like.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Now having a baby, because I was always worried about that,
like how's it gonna fall into this type of industry
in the sense. Yeah, but I do think that at
least for me, things fell together more than a part honestly,
And like I don't think I gonna be ready for
I don't think I think it's hard to plan for
(14:05):
a kid. Yeah, when the kid is here, these are
gonna come together.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm not worried about it per se, Like I mean,
it's something that I've never done obviously, but I'm not
really worried about it. When I went through, like when
I first started this carecaker journey, things were like really rough,
like really really a rough, like like extremely rough, and
I had to plan my whole life, my work, my
(14:30):
whole everything, my day day to day around not just me,
but like also my mom. And when I started to
come kind of like up out of it a little bit.
I just I don't know, I just had this like
random thought, and I felt like it was like a
conversation with God even though it was just a random thought.
But I was like, I used to be so worried
about becoming a mom because I've never done it. And
(14:51):
I was like, I think I got this, Like I
I handled the shit out of that situation, like figuring
out life for me and my mom at that time.
Can we like, yeah, it was just natural, Like it
was just a natural and she's my mom. Of course
she's not my child, but you know, my mom's like
stage four cancer. And put my mom to a point
where like she could even bathe herself in the beginning
of me care for her normally feed herself. So I
(15:15):
mean when I say like you're tending to someone, I
mean like, and I'm waking up around the clock making
sure that she has certain medicines and like we were
barely sleeping for about the first like three months.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
When I got through that, I was like I could
do this mom thing, yo, Like I don't have to
figure it out.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It's a little different, but it also helps to have
a great partner too, though one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh that's all I speak on my life. That's all
I speak on my life. I don't want to do
it without a great partner.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And I want everybody, you know, if you're listening to this,
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People are killing Michael be Jordan for saying this because
and I don't know. I mean, I feel like he
(16:04):
was jokingly saying it, but I think there are some
like onwus.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Oh about the plants and dogs.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I think it's just a thing of him saying he's
learning how to be responsible for something other.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So but people are like, bro, it's a baby. It's
so different.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Let me tell you something, because I had people were
like saying that to me. Now having a dog and
a child, Like, yes, having a baby is different in
a sense, but like you just said, having a dog,
because even when I had a dog, I had to
make sure he's being fed though, like I'm going back
home to make sure he's being fed at least twice
a day and stuff, and he has to be walked like, no,
(16:37):
you're not doing that to your child. But at the
same time, like you just said, it's responsibility though, like
you have you have to kind of get a routine in.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I just love the fact that he thinks are hard
to care about.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I never once tried to be a plant mom because
I just knew I didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Have it in me. Yeah, all of the watering of
the plant, the positioning it, and the light the right
way house has to be a certain temperature for certain plants,
like y'all.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Really that man alone, if he working on if he
working with plants, a dog, a baby born, I.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Don't even air exactly, but I don't think people whoever
is mad at him and then like they're taking it
to literal like he's people say everything, yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I just think that in my opinion, I think if
you look at Michael by Jordan, right, he's young, he's
at the height of his career, super successful, obviously attractive,
and he is being it seems intentional about wanting to
create a family. You got men out here that are
just having babies with any old body, people that they
barely even want to speak to on a day to
(17:42):
day and are you are.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You talking to?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Who?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Say it? Leangelo Wall? I mean if we want to
go there.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like it's and I mean whether you're being made successful
or not. I just think that you should be more
intentional about even if you're not planning to have the kid.
And it seems like he is making preparations and plans
because he knows that he wants it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I admire that.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But even if you're not in the space of like
planning the kid, I think that should at least be
some responsibility on who you laying down with, just in
case it happened, like, just in case y'all got to
become partners in a co parenting situation. Do you even
like the person you laying down with? Because speaking of
Leangelo Ball, right, we watched him have a baby with
Miss Nikki Baby, who's you know, she's all love and
(18:32):
hip hop influencer. Comes from a very well established, rich family.
So she didn't need li Angela Ball for the money.
She thought she had a partnership. They had a baby too,
Oh yeah, because it was a new baby when he left. Yeah,
so they had she had just had her new baby
and he decided he didn't want to be there anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Now. Granted, even at.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Things happen, you decide Okay, look, this is not where
I want to be cool, But the way that he
went about it over cord over Miss Nikki Baby, like
not wanting to be in your kid's life because it
didn't work out with you and your person.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I don't really, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I don't feel that, and I know that him and
Sneaky Baby we're not strangers, but it seems like I'm
confused about where his intention is, even when it comes
to just the women and just the kids. Like if
you know you don't want to be with somebody and
be with a partner, okay, I don't want to see
I think people think that you have to stay with
somebody just because that's just the way it's supposed to be.
(19:27):
Don't get me wrong. I don't want to ever be
divorced and go through any of that. But if we
are miserable and it's not working, I don't want my
child to see me grow up, like I don't want
them to see that, Like, but at least I want
them to see their dad, like can you show also
just as a dad?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Like how do you not want to see a child though,
Like I don't get that.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I want to say, because I know a lot of
times men try, and like I mean, I've been here
in my own real life, and my mom and my
dad were not together when I was growing up, and
my dad always alludes to it being so much more
to the story of why he chose not to be
involved for like thirteen fourteen years. But the way that
I feel, and I'm saying that to say, I don't know.
(20:13):
We only know what we see online. We don't know
the full in house dynamic between lie Angela Baal and
Nikki Baby, right, So I don't know if he thought
I'm better off on no contact whatever, but you're never
better off no contact, Like I've literally told my dad that,
Like it doesn't matter what you were going through, especially
because at a certain point I got to an age
where you could contact me without my mom. You're never
(20:35):
better off no contact, like as a parent, Like that's
extremely crazy. And then so she had another baby, Miss
Nicki Baby had another baby with Lianjoel Baal. He decided
that they did he didn't want to be with her anymore.
He moved on to another relationship again, it's not about
him moving on to another relationship. If you feel like
you need to do that, do your thing. But that
was crazy, though, I mean, would you.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I think my only take on it because I've also
been in a household where two people were together and
they should not have been. And I mean, I love
my brother's dad, my stepdad to death, but my some
of my memories of him and my mom are things
I wish I never had to see in my life.
And I was like nineteen years old and I'll never
forget it. But they shouldn't have been together, but they
were trying because my mom had my brother. So like,
(21:18):
I kind of understand both sides of it, but I
still think it's trash for you to do that without
like like your kid didn't have to be here, like
there should still have played on support or like something
in place.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I don't know, that's a sticky situation.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Wait, lean Angel LaVall moved on and had another baby
with another girl who that.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
He forced he was forced to marry her. Yeah, I mean, well,
let's just play the clip.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I'm gonna go going through the emotions with her ass
Like she's like, I'm gonna do this this. Then I'm like, whatever,
all right, cool, whatever, nigga, cool, just getting whatever, a
nigga just doing anything.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
She's like, we're gonna get married, We're gonna do How
did you end up doing that? How did you end
up in the courtroom though? Brother?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Because like she off me there, nigga, I'm out there
about a cry in the whip, like niggas just gonna
jump to the I know, like you dumb ass nigga.
She has like niggas, she ain't has shit to be honest,
I don't like her ass like nigga to keep it
the band, just like, how the hell did that happen?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
How that shit?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Nigga? I don't know. I don't have that, not even
that bron. I don't even know, nigga. She had you
locked up, she was lying and shit, a whole bunch
of bad shit nigga.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean, look, it gets sticky all around. I
guess we got here because I was trying to big
up Michael B. Jordan for just wanting to be intentional,
whether you're gonna be with the mom or not be
with the mom, or women, if you're gonna be with
the dad or not be with the dad. I think
when we are as at certain big grown ages, we
gotta understand that there are accountability and you lay down,
(22:46):
you know what's about?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Like hello, Like we know how to get there.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
We know one plus mo equals two at thirty eight,
thirty five, twenty. You know how to make a kid.
And if both of you guys that are doing that
regardless of what happened. The baby didn't ask to be here, is.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Like my whole point of everything. Nothing is guaranteed in
this world but life and death.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, Like I think about that all the time as well,
like you know, and honestly that's been one of my struggles, accepting, accepting.
But because I watched my mom be a single mom
for so long and just figure it out, I've always
been so intentional about my career. I feel like I've
been more intentional about my career than anything else in
(23:27):
my life. Like I'm intentional about dating and like the
person that I'm with now, but I wasn't really that
for you know, after when I was single, I didn't
that wasn't I wasn't doing anything, but that wasn't a
focus because I was like, regardless of whatever, me and
my kid gonna be straight. And I didn't realize until
(23:48):
I got with a person who like, like even seeing
my kid, like he'll be like, you mean like if
we have kids, are our kids, And I'm like, dang,
I didn't even realize how much I'm programmed to just
be like like, well, if you got dip, go ahead,
because I'm straight.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
We straight over here.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, But do you think it's a control factor too,
that that's the only thing you can control.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred, Like the only day, the only
thing your promise in life is life and death. Like
the little bit of like career progression that you have,
you can't really control that. You try to, you try
to do, you know everything you can, but like you
can't control certain things, like you can't control a person
their feelings, their actions, like whatsoever. And that vulnerability is scared,
(24:30):
especially as a woman, like I said, who I've always
been like, I'm gonna make sure I'm super independent so
that just in case in my vulnerable is moment I'm disappointed,
I'm good And that's a sad way to have to think.
But I ain't really seen much of anything else, you
know what I mean. So I've always been that way.
And it actually that texts me to our next conversation.
(24:55):
I know we talked about GZ on yesterday's episode of
the podcast, but there was one part that I think
would really fit right now in this conversation as we
in the episode. So, Jez was on Next Chapter with
Bishop TD Jakes and they talk about everything from.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Life, love, career, health struggles, just a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
When they got into the conversation around Jes's divorce from
Genie MII. One thing that Jezi said that struck me.
Jez says that he doesn't want to be traditionally married.
He wants a life partner.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Let's listen, what would you do differently if the choice
comes up again?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
If I ever did it differently, I think that even
in the dating stages, like even like the day, like
we could be friends, but even in the dating stages,
I would want to do like some pre marital like
counselor absolutely. But you know what I'm saying is to
have somebody self kind of. But I will say this,
my heart of my spirit tells me, like now the
(25:52):
space I'm in, I just see life partner. If two
human beings can come together and come to some type
of understanding and build this bond that doesn't need a
piece of paper to validate it and say, hey, look
we're going to do life together. We're gonna make this work.
But I also want you to be okay, if this
(26:13):
doesn't work, what does that look like for you? Let's
talk about that. Let's get that together. Okay, you're good
with that. I'm good with that. We signed that, you sign,
we do whatever, we get the ring, we do all that.
What I never want to go through again. I don't
want that from anybody, because I know a lot of
brothers just been going through the court cases. Is seeing
these people take your money and send their kids to
(26:33):
college with your money because you're fight them because it
becomes adversarial. Well, let's just decide what it's going to
be and if you're good with that, if I'm good
with that, if it doesn't work, what you wanted to work,
but at least we got to understand and that we
can part ways and we can still be okay.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It sounds to me like he's a little traumatized from
all the money he had to spend, because I know,
so Okay, when Jez and Genie my divorce, when their
divorce was settled and their divorce was finalized in June
of twenty twenty four. So, following their divorce being finalized,
Genie Mai went back to court and she said that
Gzi owed her money for several different things that were
(27:13):
okayed in their divorce settlement.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Some of the things included.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
A five hundred thousand dollars payment to like an account
that would like grow interests for their daughter. She was
asking for like over ninety thousand dollars for a reimbursement
for like rent, and then she was you know, talking
about like some cars that ownership or something like that
(27:38):
was supposed to be transferred for, and there was a
hole back and forth about it. I know GZ at
one point was saying that like there was a lot
of frivolous claims that were coming her way that they
were having to go back to court for and he
wanted her to.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Pay the lawyer feedes for that.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
So it seems like that whole part of it, like, Yo,
we couldn't agree on things that we had already agreed on.
There was still a lot to be ironed out because
as if you're separating and you're dividing things, regardless of
how long they had been together, they begin building the
life together.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That kind of dramatized him a bit.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Genie Maid said that their divorce called for Gizi to
pay for her daycare calls, the baby's daycare calls, school
tuition for the child, deposit at least five hundred thousand
dollars in an interest bearing account for their daughter, transfer
the title to cars, and cover four months.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Of her rent.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
The thing is, Genie claimed that Gizi failed to follow
through on these things, and she says he's ghosting her
and hanging her out to dry now in the docks.
Genie claims that Gizi already owed her four thousand dollars
for tuition and child care calls, and she says that
she hasn't got access to the five one hundred thousand
dollar account he was supposed to set up for their
daughter like that, that five hundred thousand dollars, like that
stuff was ironed out in there, whatever their agreement was
(28:49):
going into the marriage and saying in case we split, right,
but she was going back and forth to court and
saying that it wasn't happening.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, it wasn't happening.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Know, a lot of the claims like Gez had fought
back against and we're saying that certain things weren't true,
or it seems like their communication and their timelines just
weren't there. Because even when she had brought up the
fact that like he had like guns in his home
or whatever to and and he was like she was
claiming that he was like careless with him, and his
(29:20):
side was claiming like, yo, like he's geezy, he has
and does things to protect himself, but everything is legal,
their kid is good when the baby's over the house
and things of that nature. And then there was like
a timeline, not timeline, but like basically almost like a
stock sheet that was supposed to be given to Genie
(29:40):
Mai about like here's everything that he has in his
home self protection wise, here's where everything will be stored,
especially when your daughter is there. And his side has
some issues with providing that because he was accusing her
leaking things to media.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
The communication just seems all over the place.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I just wonder what happened, Like what made them I
don't nothing is guaranteed in this life, but life or
dad tailor I'm trying. That sounds so morbid, but like
that's just how it is you look up if you
find a person who makes you want to grow through.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Whatever has exactly you know what I mean. And that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
It's like, regardless if it's of Michael be Jordan's type,
who is like I'm practicing right now because I'm intentional.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I want my kids.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's le Angelo Ball who is going through like whatever
it is he's going through and figuring it out.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
And god, you know, now he got.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
His other baby with the whole other girl who she's
claiming that her baby hasn't seen her kid at all yet.
I mean, her baby hasn't seen Leangelo Ball at all yet.
And then you have you know, Jezu, who's been through
these things and who is now a lot more accountable
and understands more of what he wants.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
But it might not be traditional. It's like you got
to really figure out, like where do you want to
be in all of this? I don't know. I just
hope all these people figure it out.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I hope Michael be Jordan and his plants are well
and doing well and very watered and you know, all
of the things. So yes, this has been another episode
of the Latest with Lauren the Rosa. I'm your host,
Laurena Rose, and I tell y'all every single episode my Lowriders,
y'all could.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Be here with anybody or anywhere with anybody talking about
all these things.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
But every episode, you guys choose, y'all got intentional about me.
I know that's right, y'all choose to be right here
with me. And I appreciate you guys for Taylor.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Thank you for joining us again. So now y'all know
who was doing all the editing, you know, with the
audio side.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Seaqua and Patrick Mrie on the editing of the video,
but Taylor is on the editing of the audio. My
girl in the intro of the podcast and all of
the trend of everything.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, yes, y'all curio and she is a Mamiana. Thank
you for joining us. Thank you guys for tuning in
for another episode. I'll catch you in the next one.
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