KeKe Palmer Interview

KeKe Palmer stops through to chat about her new film Brotherly Love, growing up in the industry, her talk show, how her mom has embarrassed her and much more.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Real people, real celebrity joined the Breakfast morning. Everybody is
DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We all the
breakfast club. We have a young lady who came here
this morning. No security, no press. She's not young, no,
no man has been, no nothing. She was out there.

(00:22):
I didn't know who she was, what her mama, hem
wasn't even she beat her mom in here. No, my
mama was here and she's standing right behind you. I
know that's the best security. Yeah, she's not young, no more.
By the way, she's twenty one. Miss Kiki Parma. Would
you like some remy remy? Oh you're not in front
of mom. Okay, she's got work to do today. It's

(00:45):
early in the morning. My bad. What's going on, Kiki?
Nothing much, just working out here promoting brotherly love. I
saw it, by the way. I love that movie. Yes,
I thought it was great. So I'm so glad. I'm
so glad you did that fantastic job in that movie.
Thank you. I feel like I know you've been doing
a lot though you've been super busy. You got your
on talk show just kicking money out, and you got

(01:07):
a TV show coming yet Fox giving black people shows
like It's the Night. No, I retweeted you when you
said that because they had me cracking. Did they do
that after Empire or you had that already? No, it
was after Empire, but it's Ryan Murphy. But the show
is not like Empire at all. It's very different. It's
Ryan Murphy, so they do a lot of business with him.
So it just was, you know, ironic. It's like a

(01:28):
horror movie horror TV shows. Yes, it's like American horror
stories I would say, mixed with mean girls. So you
get like a little bit of the girl Caddy is
comedy from that type of film, and then also you
get the gore from like American horns. So you're killing people. No,
I mean, I don't know if I'm the killer. I
don't know what's going I don't know what what's gonna happen.
Don't tell They don't tell us. They don't tell us either.
It's crazy and I'm always trying to figure it out.

(01:50):
But Ryan, don't tell me. It is using you for promo.
They're gonna kill you first episode. You're black, you dieing
hard movies and TV show that's not that's not what
happens now. With black individuals and movies and Black Boy. Yeah,
with the successive Empire, successive Empire, you last, right, Yeah,
talk about brotherly love. We didn't see it, but we're
hearing this pretty good. Yes, we did well. One of

(02:11):
us did. One of us did. Yeah. Yeah. No, I
was very, very simple. I was like, I didn't be surprised. Huh. No,
I didn't know what the movie was gonna be about.
Number one. I was surprised because it's the first time
Team Quincy act in the movie. So I didn't know
how that Ny killer. He did a great job because
I didn't know we could act either. When he called
me and told me, I said, all this movie about it.
I'm not gonna lie because you're like, Okay. I never

(02:32):
knew him to act in my entire I've known him
for very I know the sweet was kids. So I'm like,
he camed to him something, I want to introduce myself
as Chris. I'm like, what the hell. Then I'm like, oh,
he about to be in the movie. And I was like, Oh,
we're gonna see what's gonna be up with this? And
then when we got there, I was for real blown away,
like wow, he was telling me how he had started
acting and really started focusing on I'm like, dude, you

(02:54):
really gonna it was He's really good in the film.
And then Eric Hill was really good. I never yeah
he was. He's kind of new to Eric is one
of the main characters also, And that's why I feel
like everything with the movie was just faded to happen
that way because everything that wasn't supposed to happen happen.
We were able to get out there to start work
and we know we're gonna have the funds. Then we
found all the right characters. The casting was done properly.

(03:16):
Shout outs to Kim Hard. I mean, everything went so
so fluently, and it was in Failing. You guys filmed
in Philly. And how long did it take to do
the whole movie? Oh, we filmed it very quickly, maybe
like twenty six days. That's crazy. Yeah, it was. It
was a quick shoe. It was a quick shoe. But
we all had such a good time. It felt like
we were out there having like a little party. And
I never knew Philly was so cool to like being
and chilling. I like Philly. I used to do radio there.

(03:40):
But you you was just in the right place you
go torough the hood. You that got shot, he was
not getting shot in the hood. Okay, it's been much
more innocent people than keeping but you know it's great.
They did really have some nice to feel like it's
bulls you always. They mentioned that black thought was in
the movie. Yeah, we were trying to use like little
working like John Yea, all this stuff like that. We
tried to make sure we gave it the authentic, authentic

(04:02):
Philly vibe because the director and the writer is from
Philly and we were in Philly. So we wanted to
make sure, even though we weren't from Philly, that we
made it. You know, did I put our best foot forward?
You know? That's it weird like making out with Quincy
and steps since y'all with friends since you were little.
It was very weird. It was very weird to us.
It was very weird to us because you want to
especially when you're cool with somebody, you don't want to
be looking like you're doing too much on screen. You

(04:23):
don't want to be like, you know, doing too much.
So we tried to find a balance between making sure
we had that passion but still was laid back and
cool in it. Yes it. No, I'm kidding, I'm excited
about that. I can't say that was excited, but I

(04:44):
definitely like shout out, queens, you got me, you know
you got you got me a nice looking dude, because
Quincy is not bad on the eye scenes though, it's
like like do guys get like hard? Sorry, Mom, No,
She's like, you get mois um. You know, Mom's like,
let me because this is the thing about it, when
you were think in your mind naturally, Like, you know,
even when I did TLC with Evan, I used to

(05:06):
have the biggest crush on every I mean I was,
hold on, hold on, he's married. Now you know you
got trouble that before? Man, don't tell me, let me.
You know, I had a big, the biggest crush on Evan,
right and when I it was so funny because clearly

(05:26):
I had gotten over the crush as I grew up
and you know, had my own life and my own relationships.
And when I did tell see me, I'm like, wow.
I even called my sister like, girl, you've been all
them years. I loved Evan and now I'm actually about
to do all the you know, makeout scenes with him
because it's too awkward. It's not. You got people looking
at you, you know, you in each other's face, poles

(05:47):
trying to make sure you getting the right thing. It's
just it's weird. You're still line the mama telling you
a virgin maybe so you you know, she said, my mama,
noma s my mom talking about everything. And you had
a living boyfriend before anyway, So really a girl living
a life and doing her thing, living boyfriend. She talks

(06:09):
about it. When she was here, I talked about it
in my essence all this. I drink heavy. I don't
remembering this stuff. But now you're a single, right, yeah,
I'm single? Now? Okay she's single? Oh man, I got
a good m F Mary Kill for you too. What's this? Okay? Okay,
who's okay? Then this is how I'm gonna really tell,
because you know everybody's I was like, oh, she's didating
this person. No she's not. She's diding this person, No

(06:29):
she's not. So now I'm gona really be able to
tell where your head is at. Okay, Okay, let's do it.
Let's all right, F Mary Kill, little little Dirk yg
and august I sena okay, little Dirk Mary. Oh so
because that's just seeing him. The other day, Mary killed that.

(06:51):
I ain't got that Mary, little Dirk. Okay, um, who's
the next person? He said, August, I's seen it, And YG,
who are you killing? Oh? You know, we need another option.
We don't have to kill them. You have to kill
one of them, not killing the literal sense, just you know,
you're dead to me. Okay, okay, okay, okay, you're dead

(07:12):
to me. Yeah, but this person is not dead to me.
But this is the only choice that I have, Oh,
Doc going, Okay, I dead to me. I guess it
would have to be YG. I don't mean this, but
this is the game, the game, so maybe that will
be Maybe that will be killed. But he's about any
day now. We don't want nobody coming for you. Yeah,

(07:34):
we're really cool. No, we're really cool friends now, but
it's not like that. You know, man, Hollywood. You know
how Hollywood always try to make whoever you hanging with,
that's got to be the person you're dating. You're with them,
y'all ride to die. Y'all got a fool dang gonna
love story that you never even knew before the end
of the week. So for me, it's just like you know,
every now and then, I do a little dating here
and there. But I'm I don't do a lot of

(07:54):
dating in the industry because it's not as it's not
as a relaxed as people thinking is. People don't immediately think,
let me date my you know, successful counterpart or because
you can't go anywhere without being harassing and pictures and
people commenting. It just seems like business with all guests
and like, oh he makes some great chicken. People went
crazy over that. But I would admit that was a

(08:16):
little bit funny though. Man just frying, no girl, no chicken.
You know, Okay, no, but he's from New Orleans, y'all.
He from New Orleans. You know how guys in New Orleans,
but they'd be cooking, they'd be ready to show off. Okay,
you scream married a little Dirk immediately that nobody tell you. No,
I would tell you that means he's telling you love

(08:40):
because he's a real dude. I mean, not that the
other guy's on the real dude. But you know, Dirk
is not petty, he's not gossipy, he's not I mean,
anytime I have a conversation with him, he's just about
doing right for his kids, staying focused right and all
the time, like god bless. Like he's just really very chill.
He's very chilly and nice person. We're both from Chicago,
so I think maybe we both see, you know, maybe

(09:01):
we have the same mentality. I don't know what it be, okay,
but he's a real good guy, so some potential there.
Maybe I'm not, you know, I always say never say never.
Got Brandy answer man, she wants your faith, you know.
I don't really don't know what happened with that, to
be honest with you. I think a lot of times
with social media again, people will see one little sound

(09:22):
by the one little thing and they immediately, you know,
add something to it. Who knows what somebody could have
sent her and showed her. She probably didn't see the
interview personally, and then she went back and looked at
it and was like, Okay, it wasn't like what people
made it seem like, yeah, exactly. And for me, it's
just like, I don't be I'm not the type of
I mean, look, you can't prove yourself to people. So
when stuff like that happens, what can you say. I'm
not trying to steal nobody's husband, right, that looks crazy

(09:44):
ready to go, And that's another thing. And plus, let's
be real, I grew up watching sister's sister, so to
you know me, even if I was just crazy, type
of hussy or whatever you want to call it, I
wouldn't be trying to steal one of my inspirations husband.
I mean, somebody I don't even grow up watching. I
just put out a statement. She cleared it up. She said,
y'all didn't have no be Oh good. I didn't even

(10:05):
see that, but I mean we definitely talked. We definitely probably,
like you know, always have talked and always been cool.
So when that happened, I'm like, yo, you know, at
the end of the day, I love God, love for
you and everything like that. So we you know, when
I see Corey Herd, I wanted to ask him about it,
but he scared me so much in the movie, I
ain't want to ask Y. Corey definitely can put on
this demeaner thing. You'd be like, oh, let me back,
let me back back. I want to do no problem, girl,

(10:27):
girl girl. In that movie, he really did. He really
did the thing in that movie. I feel really cool
because people get to see a side of him that
they never seen before. Right, that's what he was saying.
I usually get to see him in the you know,
action flicks whatever like that. You never get to see him.
They don't get you do black movies. Really, what he
said and brotherly love. To me, I will be honest,
it's all black class, But to me, it's not like

(10:48):
just a black movie. It has such a strong message
to it, you know what I mean? That could relate
to anybody of any race, of any environment setting, whatever
you want to call it. If you're a fan of sports,
that's something that you could watch fall and love you're
trying to make make sure your family's taken care of you.
Everybody could relate to those type of issues, right, middle class,
you know the class absolutely absolutely was you surprised at

(11:10):
the ending? I definitely was. And we can't say nothing
about it because they told me to not even say
it was a twist, but I guess there is. But yeah,
I mean it's you know, it's a little shakespeareance, you know,
hood love. Now, you haven't slowed down and taking a
break at all, and you've been doing so much since
you've been how old years old do you ever say, okay,

(11:30):
who I makes us that I just need to you know.
You know sometimes I do say that. Sometimes I do
say that, but then in my heart it's like, look, baby,
we gotta keep on moving. We gotta keep on moving.
You got ideas in my mind, I'm always thinking, thinking, thinking,
thinking about different things. And so for me, it's like
I just want to put all that out into the
world and just use my gifts. You know what I'm saying,
Um give them away as much as I can. And
so you know, it's important to take a break every

(11:52):
now one theay because you gotta recharge and stuff. But
you know, I do find it to be hard for
me because I do have a high you know, drive
right music at the end and having a daily tuck
show that had to be really exhausting. Yeah. Just I'm
getting ready to start that May fifteenth, we start shooting
in La all right. Now, you know what Elside was
thinking about. Huh, you gotta say something. I'm just looking
at your feet. No, they don't hurt. I just hate shoes.

(12:20):
Shoes up. I ain't got none, neither with your boyfriends
and fight them. You know, It's really true. I've always
been very happy I've always been very heavy. That's so
brit Save. But you know what people tell me, that's
a Chicago chick thing. I'm like, is it? I have

(12:40):
no idea, but I'm very like it, like if I
like somebody like, So what you're doing? She don't just
got him off. She got her feet, ripping, the dripping,
the bottom of the girl chilling boom. That wasn't right there.
You know, you know your blood what is that thinking

(13:02):
back then? Oh? Yeah, you're a blood your girlhood mama.
You know your daughter was a block. That's why she said.
I know from Robin's mother, you'll stand up. No numb.
Are you from in Chicago? So it's what street? No,
I get out of here. I'm from the South suburb,

(13:23):
so I'm not from the city from angl No, I'm
from Robbin's. They're like Harvey, it's real country town. Okay, Well,
now let's talk about that talk show because I feel
like when you started doing that, that's when people really
started just responding so much more to you as an adult.
But I'm sure for you, your opinion got held so
much more weight than it used to, and then you
had to really defend yourself a lot did you feel

(13:45):
like when you started doing that show. I feel like
in general, you know, first of all, whenever you're you're
an entertainer of celebrity, whatever it is, whatever you get
popular for or whatever people start noticing you for, they
want you to stay. It's just how human mind works.
We want whatever we know something to be We wanted
to always stay that way. But especially for me, because
I started as a kid, I can't stay that way.
It's impossible for me to keep playing children roles if

(14:05):
I'm a grown woman. And so it came upoint in
my life where it's like, look, I want to make
sure it's a slow and easy transition. I'm not trying
to be like, okay, doing the most you know, different
thing from what they know. But I wanted to be
a slow, gradual climb. That's like with films like Brotherly
Love or with Joyful Noise or whatever it was. I
always wanted to try to show myself coming of age
in the film, so it would be a gradual thing

(14:27):
when I did, finally, you know, you know, people would
finally be able to see that, Okay, I'm not a
kid anymore, you know me, I am a grown woman.
But it's been it's been a different transition for me,
you know what I mean. Like you put a picture
up and you had a piercing and people that she's
a thought And that was so interesting to me too,
because for me, it's like I'm not doing anything that

(14:49):
any other normal eighteen nineteen year old would do. I
like piercing. So yeah, I'll give my eyebrow Piers. I
get my nose Piers, I get my tongue Piers. Whatever
I wanted to do, I'm gonna do that. It's the
way I expressed myself. People also don't understand I am
an actress, so I don't ever get to be myself.
Especially when I was doing Broadway at that time, I
spent the whole entire four months being Cinderella. I'm talking

(15:10):
about eight shows a week, two two shows on some days,
you know what I'm saying. Like it was a crazy schedule.
So when I when I wasn't sleeping, I was on
stage being somebody that wasn't me, and that can be stressful.
So when you're done with that, yeah, you're gonna break clues.
You're gonna have something. I wanted to get my nose, people,
I want to get this done. I want to get
my hair, you know. So it's like you have to

(15:30):
live your life for you and I had to. Really
that was a really big time for me of understanding
what that meant because it did hurt my fellows when
people say, it's like, y'all see me too. I'm always professional,
show up on time, punctual, take care of my career
and everything, like I spell really well, you know. And
it's like people still want to want to find a
way to change it or whatever it is they want
to do, but that but it has nothing to do

(15:52):
with you, you know, it has something to do with them.
It seems like you get a lot of flak oh
when you speak out about social issues, like issues affecting
the black community, especially during the Mike Brown situation. Why
do you think that is? I think it's just like
your family members, right, so you have I think a
lot of times people see me is that because they've
seen me grow up since I was you know, they
see me grow up. So for them, it's a situation
like if you know little T T, little T T T,

(16:14):
what you know about makes you an authority, And I
think that's all that it is. It's like people just
have to get used to me not being a kid anymore.
And that's not nothing I can force anybody to do.
It's just over the course of time, you see the
work that I do, you'll be able to see, you know,
whatever did you choose to see? So for me, like,
that's why it's so important for me to just focus
on what I'm doing and I worry about that stuff

(16:36):
because that is what it's like. It's like people see
their little niece or their little cus or they little
sizzin like she don't know. And not only that, you know,
I think you know, people say, well, damn, she's been
a star for a while. That too, she ain't grow
up in the struggles. She don't know what it feels
like to be in the hoods or you know, how
is she speaking for us? And that's really important to
me too. That's why I'm writing my first book right now.
And I and it's like everybody has struggle. Everybody struggle

(16:59):
comes in different forms. Okay, I mean I grew up
in a home where I was the financial breadwinner. It's like,
imagine what that dynamic was like. That's not something that
anybody you know, I mean, that's not something anybody. I mean,
that's just the facts of you know what I mean.
You know, I made so much money that there was
no reason for my parents to work. Well, that shifts

(17:20):
the family dynamics, or the fact that I was all.
I gave up my entire childhood to be an actor. Now, yeah,
I got something wonderful in return, But imagine what that
might have felt like when I'm filming a movie and
I can't see any of my friends. You know, all
most of the films I did were with adults. But
that's so true because that is how it's people, is

(17:41):
how it sounds. But my my real point is to
say everybody has struggles in a different form. No, you
don't have to cry about mine, but we can relate
about ours. True, we don't have to be sad about it.
But understand, I know where you're coming from. A lot
of these child actors end up going crazy too, you know,
and it's and it's in a lot of people go
crazy in general. But you don't really see anybody else
go crazy or quote unquote I should say crazy, other

(18:03):
than a child actor. And what is exactly crazy? Because
somebody is different from what you knew them to be
you know what I'm saying, Like if all of a
sudden stopped dressing like how I do now, and all
of a sudden start dressing like lista bonnet, but then
you know you do he as crazy. It's different from
what people see you do. Hear a lot of tragic
stories though, Like about child stars. I mean they do
specials on it, on VAH one and everything. I think

(18:26):
because the child actor can be a high stress job.
You're working like I know. I known how to work
as an adult since the time I was tea. Now
you are grown up, like you speak, grown like you
see like a grown woman. I know. But she seems
very mature, right, I mean even though you're sitting at
bad foot on your shoulder. Damn, I hit my face.

(18:48):
Picture right now, you can look a little crazy. What
sign are you can cancer? Okay, you don't even know
what at me? You just cancers. I know a lot.
I'm very into astrology, soul. I know I'm a virgal girl.
Beyonce Michael need to say more? Okay, September third, every

(19:09):
day all day? So you know what I knew that
was love? I knew there was some love here people.
What's onn to you capricorn. Oh you know we're a
perfect match. Yeah, I can't studying back to y'all should start, Davis,
I'm married, young lady. You are? Yes, well, you know
what what's up with that? I never hear radio personalities
talk about their lives? What's up with y'all club? Then

(19:32):
you must not married with a six year old and
the child on the way, And then it's called the
players curts. I got two girls, not the players cards
playing these women. I mean I used to I'm not
an If I was a guy, I honestly do think
I might would be a player. And let me say,
y August out a little dirt and if Charlottie was
a female, he would be a thought. Okay, you a

(19:55):
ball because I'd be married a soccer player or baseball player.
Ye trapped somebody. His advice is always get pregnant by him, girl,
and let's get this money. What but what if they
happened to you? You ain't never thought about that honestly now,
I mean, even though you've been popping for a while,
you ain't never was with somebody and he was like, yo,
he got it. You had an aunt Obama by this

(20:18):
is you know what that is. First of all, that
is one hundred percent truth. When you are in an
entertaining when you're a young entertained or something like that,
and you're around a lot of successful men, you do
have a lot of women, older women in your life,
like girl, change your life. It's like you'll be like
little girl, I can change my whole life. But I

(20:38):
will say there is when people say, oh, so soals
a gold jigger, so so only about the money. I
don't think that's always a situation or the case at times,
because sometimes it just comes down to you wanting to
feel like somebody also can sometimes take the bill, or
somebody can direct something, and somebody can be you know,
they can lead you as opposed to you leading them.
Because right so I do understand that, how do you

(21:01):
feel about dating guys that you have a lot more
than Like what if this is a guy who's an
struggling actor, he hasn't never had a big bro but
he's really cute you Like, I'm just I'm like you,
how you down with that? Um? Well, that's all I
have really dated, you know, I never really dated everybody
that you know, maybe let's say, made the same amount
of money as me. Mama, come on, I talk to

(21:23):
your daughter now. Situation never allowed it to happen. Mom.
This is this is that's that's. I've never dated anybody
that you know, like I said, like maybe had the
same amount of money as me, because for me, it's
always been important on how I vie with somebody. What
a head, it's a heart and the right place and
all that type of stuff, But it is important. It's

(21:43):
the difference between somebody that has a good heart and
somebody's working towards something. And that's definitely a lesson that
I've had to learn. People love somebody for being who
they are, but it don't mean that you need to
be with them and all this that and the third
if they don't know how to uh, if they don't
know how to man just said, I ain't dating no
broke people on my level. I say it. I'm sorry,

(22:03):
because the dynamics shifts in a bad way. Right. If
somebody don't have their own thing going on, they feel
bad about themselves. It's gonna feel bad about themselves. It
creates resentment in the relationship, it creates cold dependency. It's
nothing but bad that could come eventually. They're gonna beat
you because they're gonna be all time. Are you making
more money to me? But it's different for women, you
feel like, because women, guys can date a woman that

(22:24):
doesn't have as much as they have, because that's the
thing that you know. Once again, that's a double standing
in the row reversal. You could be a boss and
be sexy at the same time. That's why I love
about Beyonce. You could be feminine and be a businesswoman.
I think a lot of times when a woman is
a businesswoman, she feels as if she's lost a bit
of her femininity or that she can't be sexy and
she can't be that sweet, sensitive thing. It's like you

(22:45):
got to pick one or the other and it's not true.
And I've run against that myself as well, being a young,
you know, woman out here doing her thing. It's like, okay,
wait a minute, am I gay? Or you know, I
feel like it makes you feel what do you mean?
Are you like you have a moment of feeling as
if like, no, it has a feeling of feeling as

(23:08):
if why do it? Why does it feel as if
guys aren't attracted to that or they don't Why does
it feel like it's a role reversal. It literally feels
like it's a role reversal. It's like, Okay, the guy
completely changes and I don't know how to explain it.
And then you they turned into the it's really weird,
that's your question. Act like your mama not in the room.
Do these guys start acting like this after y'all have sex?

(23:32):
Because if they start acting like that after y'all have effect,
I mean he already got what he wanted to begin with. No,
it's not a situation where they stop talking to you
as a situation where everything becomes a problem. It's an
insecurity issue. It's not an issue of I don't want
to call you no more. It's an issue of what
you're doing, where you're going, who you with verse they're
okay with it, and then and then it's like and
then it's it becomes a whole thing of you know,

(23:54):
it's just weird and it's so crazy because you feel,
all right, I don't feel bad that I'm making more money.
You don't know, I don't feel I'm not gonna slow down, right,
I'm not gonna slow down, But you I can't help it.
If that's what you what if you need your help.
But if it's like can you you know, I want
to listen for this role and I know you know
this person, would you make that call? You know, I'm

(24:16):
very big on sharing, you know what I mean. I
want to be able to share whatever knowledge I got
with anybody. You're giving abundance, You're getting abundance. It's you know,
it's a revolving door. You know, nobody's blessing is gonna
take away your blessing. So it's important to me to
feel like, you know, I want to be around people
that I want to share it with. But it's also
a sticky place because I don't want to be around
somebody that only want me to just help them with stuff.

(24:37):
And so that's when your intuition has to come in.
You have to allow yourself to be sensitive to people's
energies and vibes, like does this person really trying to
be in my life because they want to get to
know me, care about me? Or this person just trying
to be in my life because they want to come up.
And sometimes you may get screwed over. You might've gotten
you I've gotten screwed over. I'm just saying I've got
screwed over before, but you live and you learn. Do
you get sick of guys? Like do you be with guys?

(24:58):
And all of a sudden you realize, like, oh, I
want to be with you. You're calling me all the time,
You're stressing me like that. I think the truth is
I think a lot of times at my age, people
feel like they want to be in a relationship. But
the truth because you really don't. Like I used to
think that I should want to be in a relationship
because I'm Kicky. You know, I'm the good. Because I'm Kicky,

(25:19):
I should be the good. You know, I have a boyfriend,
that's what you know, All these things are gonna help
me identify who I am. And then I realized, I
really don't care about that. I really only care about
getting out there recording my music, being in the studio,
doing my doing, just Kicky doing this film idea I
just had writing this book, coming up with this that

(25:39):
that's really what I care about and I shouldn't have
to feel like I need to be defined by social
necessities in order to feel like I'm being who I am.
And that's really what it boils down to it, Really,
I really, you know, I really don't. Guys, aren't my
first idea thought in my mind? Good? You know, it's
like my first one in my mind is where I'm
going after right now? And it must be fun to
be singing. I mean, you were a lot down for
quite Sometimes it's very fun to be single because you

(26:02):
know what happens. You find yourself. You understand what it
means to love yourself instead of putting all this energy
into give and tug in a relationship, because that's what
happens when you first fall in love. Everything's all gravy,
it's all good, it's all clean, and then you start
depending on the other person for your happiness, and then
it becomes a pull and tug between your egos. You
want them to go your way and they want you
to go they way. And if you have that love

(26:24):
within yourself, you won't be looking for somebody else. So
you'll be able to give and give and give without
feeling like you need to receive, because you receive it
from yourself. Listen, I got questions for you, and I'm
gonna tell you why, because I got a six year
old daughter, another girl on the way, and I like
how well rounded you are. I like the fact that
you got your head on your shoulders, right, Did your
parents put that in you young? Because I got my
daughter reading Don Miguel Ruise right now at six. You know,

(26:45):
I got her doing a whole bunch of activities my
parents did. My parents really did? I you know, the
mom been married all my life and you know, and
I say that to say, like, I'll always be you know,
I talk to God, I'd be like, what I do
deserve of just a mom and dad that loved me.
Besides the fact that they changed their life to help

(27:05):
support my dreams, they just simply love me, period. And
that's something that only only way. I think That's probably
another reason why I stay so focused, because I'm like,
I want them to be proud. I want them to
do and I'm doing something with that gift. With the
fact that they were a part of my life. My
mom would always been a part of my life. Even
before I was in in acting, she was there. She
was there, you know, when I was at school. If

(27:26):
somebody says something, she go down there and she makes
me feel like I was important. I was the all mom,
you don't have to cry. You know, I was the
only black kid in my class, and my mom would
come in and I would feel bad and stuff like that,
and she would go to you know, you made my
daughter feel bad? Tell them how how they made you feel?

(27:47):
You know, That's why I think why I have the
extra added of you know, keeping my head on straight
or where you want to call it, because I know
what they did for me, and I showed that gratitude
and everything I do. Tell me what Daddy did. Did
he tell you stay away from those boys? Like how
did Daddy raise you? Because I gotta raise my daughter
the right way. No, my dad, it's very different than
my mom. My mom is very neurotic. She's always she

(28:09):
really is. She's always worried, you know, worry, worry, worry,
wor worried. My dad is the epitome of love. He
trusted us and even when things got weird or or
you know, I maybe was drifting away from the family
or whatever, did things happen, because you know, things change,
my dad always trusted that I would find my way
back and my mom will be nervous. Mom would be scared.
And my mom has told me conversation that they've had

(28:30):
even to this day where my dad would be like
kekey is intelligent. You have to trust her and let
her do her thing, because that's how real love is.
You gotta let go. And that's know when you did
he did a good that's knowing that they did a
good job, so they trust you even still did the
right things in you Like I know you don't even
how to keep your lips on the mic because I
know they did a good job. You did your mom
and daddy help come to your rescue now. So when

(28:52):
it's problems or this stuff in the press that they
come like I got I hand list myself like in
the press or anything. My parents, my mom. There used
to be a job in the acting community, like in
the kid actor's community, and I feel bad that I
can't impersonate the curse words that need to be said
in order to really see this. Okay, look, so there
will be like there would be like literally this is
me going into the times people would tell me when

(29:14):
I was a little kid that people would talk to
be like yo, Kicky Palmer's mom. If you mess with Kicky,
she whip your ass. I ain't playing with you. Don't
say no, she gonna hurt you. Because my mom always
she don't she do not when somebody says something bad
about me, I can bring up. Let's say this dude
Tony yelled at me when I was not. The next
time my mom see Tony, even if it's at the

(29:34):
age of twenty one, she gonna give him the meanest shade.
Honey you I mean, it's crazy. My mom can't help
but always be at my rest. Chic can't help mom
on the micro use come in, come in, she said.
I just want to know what was the biggest hurdle
you had to face as a mom and you could
be real mom the biggest hurdle, Yeah, I think it's friends.

(29:57):
I think they the friends come in and and the
child actor. Since they spend so much time working, Like
she said, then the friends come and go because like
if you go off and do a movie and you
know you left your friends back, you go back. Their
life is evolving in another direction, so you know that
connection is gone, and then they want friends, and so

(30:18):
sometimes the friends come into their life and they're not
the best friends. I think Kiki has done a really
good job and you know, discerning who her friends are.
But as a mother I have set back and watch
people come into her life that I wanted to say no,
he ain't no good or she ain't no good, and

(30:39):
I told her and then the reaction is, you know,
you're just being an over protective mom. And then like
eight months later, she'll come back and go, I'm not
kicking it with that person anymore. So, and I'm very
careful not to say I told you so, because that's
not good either. I didn't like it when my mother
told me so. I don't tell her. But I think
that's the biggest obstacle that a parent has with a

(31:01):
child in this industry is the friends and the relationships.
Because she didn't go to high school, and the best
thing about going to high school is a socialization. You
learn who do you kick it with, who not to
kick it with? Who you was hanging with freshman year,
you're not hanging with senior year. You start evolving. And
she didn't have that. So her socialization is happening right now.

(31:23):
Her college is happening right now, and so there's going
to be trial and error and a lot of people
have motives. I'm sure, absolutely absolutely, And how did you
get over your parental paranoia? Because I suffer from that now,
like I'm the same way I'm not worried about what
my daughter every day. I worry about what other people
are gonna do to my daughter. You know what I'm saying,
I follow my daughter. I don't think you ever get
rid of that. I mean, you know, my mother didn't

(31:45):
get rid of it. I was, you know, thirty years
old and moved out to California, and my mother got it.
I think it comes down to what she's. My husband
and I are such I'm very high strung and energetic,
and he's very laid back. And I think it's what
kikiS said that he talks to me. He tells me, look, sweetie,
we didn't raise these kids. We put them in church.

(32:06):
We told them about the love of God. Now we
gotta let them fall off, fly and at the end
of the day, because it's not gonna help Kickie for
me to keep having the safety net under her, so,
you know, whatever happens, when stuff happened in the press
or whatever like that. I think she's very classy and
I think she handles herself very well. And no, my

(32:27):
husband not. We don't behind the scenes. We don't control her.
We let people say what they're gonna say. If people
are gonna judge her off of what they want to
judge her offer off. That's home. Now she can't live
her life for other people. Now, Mom, wall made you
stare at the same penis all these years. Well, it
was very good. Right, what's the most embarrassing thing. Let's

(32:51):
talking about this earlier this week. What's the most embarrassing
thing your mom did to you. I'm so excited to
tell you this. So yesterday, right, it's so funny. I
was reading like my mom's no morology number was saying
all this stuff about how, you know, you need to
make sure that you get some good exercise and you know,
burn off some of this energy that you have because
you have such you know, ambitious nature blah blah blah
blah and all this stuff. Right, so I'm at the
end of it. Then my mom says, yeah, well I

(33:14):
just like porography, Like you know, my mama, Yo, When
I tell you, I was like, it's so funny, Mama
that you said that, because literally I have a little
brother and sister they're twins. Right, I'm like, it's so
funny that you said this, and I love you so
deep I have feel damn, it's it's funny though, Mom,

(33:37):
why are you there? Is? Now? Look I gotta deal
with though with my bad mom. It's funny. So look
the little my little brother, it's funny. I don't know
what's wrong here. So look, my little brother says here.
Literally it was so funny that she was so honest
about it in that moment for no reason at all,
because literally two weeks before, my little brothers said, we

(33:58):
saw the parents compete uter and they forgot to take
away their Google log. Wasn't mom or Dad? They were
like mom, he said, Big Black Brothers. And now and
now and now we joke. My my public is my
hair and makeup cue nickname her BBB. So now I

(34:22):
have this play. Okay, I've been married to their years.
I'm on the road. You know, I'm to explaining Mom,
everybody watches for Big Black Brothers to go that when
I get home today, it's normal, Mom, billion dollars industry class.

(34:44):
You're not paying though you're getting the free I'm getting
free clips. Okay, I just make it sure. I know,
but I love. What do you think about what's going
on in Baltimore? You know, it's such a loaded thing
because there's not a a I feel a lot of things.

(35:07):
You know, I feel like we're in such a time
where the negativity is being so plaster everywhere that it
instills more fear that it then begots more negativity and
more negativity from whether it be you know, the communities
or the people that are supposed to be helping the communities.

(35:27):
It comes from everywhere because everybody feels like that's the
reality that they're living in, So it just keeps in
continuously perpetuates itself. I just feel like I want us
to come together, not just as black people, but as
people in general. You know what I'm saying. There's so
many other issues that are going on that that that
bring us together, then that separate us, you know, not
just I think we sometimes get so stuck on the

(35:49):
differences that we don't see in the ways that we
need each other, you know what I'm saying, with things
we got in common, you know, I mean instead of me, oh,
I'm from this culture, here from that culture. Like how
about we both need our rent page, how about we
both need a job, we both need to not continuously
be held down financially. You know what I'm saying, There's

(36:10):
so many other issues that connect us then that separate us,
you know what I I mean people in general, we have
more more things that are alike than we do different.
And I think that a lot of these when these
when these things happen, it gets so focused on the negative.
That's that's all that your mind can be filled in
to the point that you can't think clearly or see
how to better approach the situation. The only thing you
can think of is to fight darkness with darkness. But

(36:30):
that's not how we go. You can only drive out
darkness with light. I mean MLK said that we can
only go somewhere if we're together. And and it's the
unity that scares whoever you think that don't want you
to win. It's the unity that scares them the most.
It's not the fighting. As long as you're fighting, I'm
winning because you're not talking, you're not seeing that actually
we're on the same page. Instead, you're casting this person

(36:53):
out and casting that person out. But if you actually
take time and say, look, let's stop fighting each other
and actually think about who we really need, what we
need to be talking about, and what we really need
to be trying to set up and put in order
in order to change what it is we want to change,
But when there's so much negativity going on, you can't
think that way. You can't see clearly. You're seeing that
in Baltimore. Now you're seeing like boods and crips coming together.
But it's interesting how the media trying to put it

(37:14):
out like, oh, the bloods and crips are fighting each
other and now they want to kill other cops. And
they came out and said, no, we're not trying to
kill cops. We're actually all coming together, actually are on
the same team. You know what I'm saying. Not every
cop is a bad cop, right, There's some good cops too.
I mean I grew up with some of them. And also,
just like with anybody, you know, some good people and
some people some bad people. So you can't just cast

(37:36):
everything one way and then expect things to change. You
have to seek what it is you're looking for. You
have to be the change that you want to see,
and that's what'll start coming to you. But if you're
just being honed in and allowing anger to completely consume you,
I've been there, you know, we've all been a place
of self pity. Man. It's hard. I'm a black woman,
you know, I'm a woman and I'm a black woman.
I could sit there and think about that all day,

(37:57):
and some people say all things are never going to change,
and that's a terrible defeat his attitude. When I think
about slavery, I get so inspired and say, whoa, look
what I came from. Damn, I could do anything. And
people say they will never be a black president, and
we got a black president. You know what I'm saying.
Because it's all about where your mind is at. It's
all about shifting your paradigm. It's all about allowing positivity

(38:18):
to feel your life and not letting this other stuff
change your perspective. It will really mess you up if
you allow the outer things to change. You think about it.
When I wake up in the morning, I don't The
first thing I say is I'm love. I'm love. I'm
like and that's why I carry throughout my whole day.
And that's what I ended up end up seeing. That's
what the eyes on which I see the world. And

(38:40):
so you have to wake up every day and allow
yourself to be that glory, be the glory of God.
Don't chake that take that away from yourself by allowing
everything you see to tear you down. Instead, see how
you can fix it by looking through the eyes of him.
You know what I'm saying right now? In the position
you're in, do you have people that say to you
you can't speak out about that now, lead that alone.
You got sponsorships, you got a TV show coming? No,

(39:00):
you know, I'm so glad I don't have that. You
know me. I would used to watch as a kid,
you know, you see on the TV shows and they
would be celebrities or somebody like that, and they want
to say stuff or be a part of things, and
people would be like, no, no, that's not true, that's
not me at all. I'm there, I'm I'm the one
that runs my career thankfully. So I'm in a position
where I can do stuff like just Kiki and I
can talk about the stuff that I want to talk

(39:21):
about in the issues that I feel like are important
to my generation, not even just racial issues, but even
talking about technology and understanding what that's doing to us.
You feel like crap because you're comparing your life to
every person that you swipe pass on Instagram. They do
say that because of social media as hard people to
get married nowadays, because we're sitting up in bed with
on our Instagrams and on our twitter we're not paying

(39:42):
attention makes you. We're about the wrong things, because that's
not the reality that's in front of you. If all
day I look up at everything that's going horrible in
the world, I won't even be able to realize what
I can do with what's in front of me, because
all I keep seeing my eyes through is the world
of being negative and terrible and all that type of stuff.
Or if I look online, I'm looking at everybody in Cali,
you know they live in a perfect life. I look around,
I'm in Philly, Well, yeah, I might feel bad, you

(40:04):
know what I'm saying, because I'm trying to compare my
circumstances to someone else's. But everybody's journey is different, everybody's
life is different, and it's not necessarily the best thing
to see somebody else's life evolved in action. That's not
the way it should That's not the way it should be.
You're seeing every single step that's not normal. It's never
been done before, and we'll find out in years to
come what maybe those effects were. You know what I'm saying,
Because we're the generation that's we're the guinea pigs to it. Well,

(40:27):
since we're talking about technology, you got caught up in
that hacking scandal. Yeah, yeah, I ain't. And this was
the such a thing about it is that the main
thing I wanted, the main thing that upset me about

(40:49):
it was like, why do you want me to explain
something that you that that has nothing to do with you?
And that's the biggest issue that I have, not even
just as a celebrity, but in general people be on
Internet trying I found out something about you. Why are
you happy about that? Why are you happy that you've
got into something? It's like cracking into somebody's mind. Yeah,
Gabrielle Union actually went off about that because it just
don't make no sense. I mean just honestly, if you

(41:11):
went and took a picture of somebody in the window
at a house, that's you a peep in time, you
should go to jail. But because we're on the internet,
this makes sense and there's something to be laughing and
funny fun about. You just have to take in a
stride because you have you have. There's no way to
to to move forward from that other than to say,
you know what, they don't know any better that they

(41:31):
didn't mean any harm. They don't know any better from that.
That has to be a devastating feeling to wake up
and see all that on your people come and he
is a devastating feeling because there's nothing you can say right,
there's nothing you can there's nothing you can. You have
to just let let it go. Let it. You gotta
take the ail, because what are you gonna do. Write
a whole long host on your about that it's got

(41:55):
a loss, you learn from it. You're a winner, you learn.
That's what I like to say. I love that because
usually when I think about the ale, I think about
the law you learn and that's real. Though that's true.
That's either it's either how you choose to see it
and I choose to see it like I'm learning. I
choose to see it like you know what. I'm greater
because it is right, but it is. It does suck.
I mean it sucks anytime somebody UH find out something

(42:16):
that you didn't tell them. We appreciate you joining us
man me too. My final credit, I'm reading your name, Laurene.
How you get My sister had imaginary friend when she
was younger. Sorry, I'm embarrassing her to um. She had
imagined her friend named Kekey when I was born. She
wanted my name to be Kecky, but my mom was like,
she can't go through her whole life with a name

(42:36):
like Key, and look at that. I go through my
whole life with Lauren. Hilarious. Well, we wish you the best.
We know what to send mom for Christmas. Yeah, yeah,
the black is deal though, you can find all right,
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