September 3, 2025 • 23 mins
Loren is back with a bonus today breaking down Kelly Price’s instagram live where she uses some particularly unsavory terms to describe her treatment by black women in the comments section. How do y’all feel about this? Let us know in the tweets!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Jewist.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody, you know, if.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
You don't lie about that, right, Lauren K Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Y'all, what's up.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's Laura de Rosa and this is the Latest with
Lauren de Rosa. This is your daily dig on all
things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations
that shake the room.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now, y'all know, my favorite episodes are the ones where
we have a little bit of mixture of all the things.
It's pop culture, it's entertainment, and I know this conversation
is going to shake a room or two or three.
So getting right on into the latest, Miss Kelly Price,
R and B singer R and B legend icon Kelly
Price took to her Instagram live to give us forty
(00:46):
five minutes of things and it was not vocals. Okay,
her mic was on, but this time she has some
words for the people. Let's take a listen. She says
black women are some of the most nasty, disrespectful people
because they've trold her appearance.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Let's take a listening.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I'm letting you have it right now because the ain't nothing
you can do about that. And while you looking for
a new job. I'm still gonna be selling out theaters
and venues looking like a fat slob and clothes that
you said that I look nasty in and my feet
is so damn big, and who dressed me. I'm still
gonna be making my money. I don't even do this,
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but I'm so sick of black people, and they're both.
I'm saying what I want to say. If you got
a problem with what I'm saying, and you know, Lord,
pray for me, because I'm not there yet.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Black women, you are some of the most nasty.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Disrespectful people on God's planet Earth, the things that you
say about other black women women. But you're an activist
and you are educated, and you are this, and you
are that and you are the other.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Alrighty, So the mic was on Kelly Price said what
she said. I told you guys, this is a forty
five minute long IG live.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
She did it late, you know, overnight in La.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Literally we woke up to these words, and obviously it
was something that was on her spirit, on her heart.
She performed Friday in Memphis at the Orphium. I believe
I'm saying I right the Orphium Theater and there is
photos and videos of her posting on stage. I went
because I was trying to figure out what prompted this,
because you know, I went through some of her other pictures,
(02:26):
and you know, it might have been this might have
been a long time coming. Like I know, Kelly Price
has had conversations about, you know, how the industry dealt
with her when it came to her weight and her
having to figure that out and navigate that space.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So I know that this is not a.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
New area for her to hear people be critical of
things about her in relation to her and all of
those things. But I did want to try and understand
a bit more of like what caused her to get
on live, because as she says, she doesn't normally do this.
I've never seen Kelly Price go live to rid a bitch, Okay,
I've never seen it. Now do I agree with her?
(03:01):
I hate to have to say it, but I do.
I do agree with her. I do believe that. And
it's not all black women, it's not everybody. It's not
all black men either, but I do think that we
unknowingly are some of the toughest people on each other yo,
especially in public forums, like especially when it comes to
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you know, people sitting on platforms, and everybody got mics
nown and even if you don't have a microphone or
a camera in front of you, just you know, being
on your keyboard and you know, on your phone, and
you on Twitter, and you in the comments, and it's
all about who's comment can get the most likes in
the shade room comments and no shade to the shape room.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Love my people over there. But y'all know what I'm
getting at.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I completely understand, I completely feel her. I think one
of the things that I'm starting to see from this
and when I said that I saw her performance Friday
at that theater in Memphis, I realized on that video
that the comments on that video were turned off. I
did not see the comments on that video before they
(04:01):
were turned off, So I don't know specifically if that wasn't.
But the other posts she collab that post on her page,
but the other post on her page, the comments are
not turned off. So I'm assuming that the person who
posted that, which was the person who had posted about,
you know, seeing her and being excited to see her
in Memphis, turned the comments off and then she saw
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the comments and went live. That's I'm assuming this tracks,
but I don't know that to be confirmed. Regardless of
what went down with comment, it was whatever she saw
she it pissed her off, and she wanted to address
the girls, and that is exactly what she did. Okay,
read them to a t. Here's my thing, though, and
y'all let me know how y'all feel about this again.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Get in the streets, get.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Into y'all want to comment, Let's have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Let's start with black women.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
So in my own and I'm only speak here for
my personal experience, I cannot speak for Kelly Price. In
my personal experience, I think not even I think what
I have felt just in the little bit of time
that you guys have gotten to know me on this platform,
people are so critical of your looks everything.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I get comments about the way I pronounce words, the
way I say words, I get comments about. So It's
like I get comments when I am when I'm over
pronunciating or I'm talking proper, people are like, why is
she talking like that? Or I've always gotten like the
you know, the whole she's talking white?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Who does she think she is? Like that whole thing? Right?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But then when I'm not talking out because I go
in and out. It depends, like I don't know, I
go in and out of you know, being able to
you know, my dialect changes depending on what I'm talking
about sometimes or you know, just what the surrounding is,
like if I'm talking about court, if I'm talking about whatever.
But I remember I walked out of the shave room,
the shave room, I walked out of court during the
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Diddy trial, and I use the words I think I said.
The prosecutors did their big one, and y'all was all
over me. And I don't even just mean in the
shave room comments. I mean it went from I'm to
shave room comments to my Instagram. I've seen threads about
myself on Twitter. On threads, there's always yo. When I
went to freaking Dominican Republic and I put on a
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bathing suit, y'all would have thought that I committed murder.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I was everything. I was uneducated.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I was the reason why black young women don't have
careers and futures. I was nothing to be looked up to.
It was crazy, like, it was honestly insane. I'm learning
to like I've never been a person that like let
social media like ruin my whole life, room, my whole day.
But you do see the comments. I've had to learn
to stay out of the comments because I'd be wanting
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to get right back at y'all, like that's how I feel.
So I understand Kelly Price and again the issue that
she's experiencing. I'm not making this about me whatsoever, But
I think when I hear her talk and then I
see people in the comments saying.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Why are you saying this?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Why would you get on a platform and speak against
black women? That's my issue majority of the time with
us as black women. If this is what she's experiencing,
why does she got to talk about it in the shadows?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I think if we talked about.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It more openly and we shamed people or people had
to deal with consequences when they did it, there wouldn't
be as much of it. I don't think that we
understand the power of like group, group group. Look, y'all
gonna drave me forgetting that we're wrong group economics and
group think. I really don't think that we understand that,
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especially because like when you're talking about a person like
a Kelly Price, or even when we saw with Essence
Festival I was mad as hell at us about that.
And majority of the of the receipts in the videos
and all the things I saw it was black woman led.
And again I'm gonna talk about black women and black men,
but I'm talking two black women first because as a
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black woman, I've experienced this myself, so I could speak
to it. But when you talk about a Kelly Price,
so you talk about the way that this woman looks right,
so the talking about her way, talking about how she's dressed, you.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Talk about all these things.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
These are conversations that, if put in the right echo chamber,
can echo to a point where they might affect money, brand, business, whatever.
Not saying that that is why she got on Live
and decided to, you know, say all the things she said.
But I think about that, and I think about essence
special when I think about the things that we choose
to focus our time on and joining as a group
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to you know, shame.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Everybody has a little key key every now and then,
but it gets to a point where it's like, this
is not even a joke, it's not even funny. Are
you okay? Like are you are you okay? Because at
the end of the day. That is a woman who
you don't know what she's going through. Every single day.
She is getting up, she is getting on the stage,
she is getting in front of people, and she is
doing her job every single day to be able to
pay her bills. Why be the person or why want
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to be the people in a group, whether it's in
comments or whatever, that want to break her spirit enough
to the point where she can't do that. We've heard
so many conversations about singers, you know, and them having
to deal with physical appearance and showing up and just
all of these things. I don't understand why, Like I
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don't understand why people are so comfortable with doing and
saying certain things. And when it comes to black women,
I think a lot of times, you know, from what
I've experienced, we think we're helping each other by doing this.
It's like I remember we were having a conversation on
a breakfast club. It was me Charlottmagne and being a
carry champion and I will insert a bit of a
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conversation here. I always felt like in the media space, though,
like the in what we do, I always felt like
when it came to black women, it's never a real
genuine mentorship. It's always like I've never met a woman.
I don't have any mentors that don't on camera and
do what I do because everybody feel like I'm coming
for what they got going on all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
So I can't. I can't support that.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But I.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Can't.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Im I used to be, but I have to feel
that way.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But the reality is is that when you let these
people know where you come from and what you want, like, yes,
people will hate on you, that's just the nature of
this business. But you have to find a community of
women who have your back. And I'm sure there are
some you see right now, there's somebody who's listening to
you right now who's gonna be like, I'm gonna take
care of her now.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
My point in bringing this this piece up was as
a younger black woman trying to figure out and navigate
the world every day. And I don't mean like because
I got I have family. I'm y'all hear me talking
about my family all the time. I'm really close to
my family. So I have family. So I have black
women that I can go to and that can nurture
and I can have conversations. But even there sometimes like
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and then you go out into the world and it's
the same thing we are taught sometimes at being tough,
being hard, being negative, you know, pointing out the worst
first is helping to build someone to be strong. And
it's like no, And I think because we're taught that,
and that's how we're raised in our householders. It's a
generational thing that we then pass on to our daughters
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and you know, things of that nature. But then we
take that out into the world. And I say we
because I know I've been guilty of it. Like listen,
I've been on the receiving side of it, so I
understand where Kelly Price is coming from. But I've also
been the person that's been throwing it out there as
well too, And a lot of times I'd be having
a correct myself, like, bro, you don't know what you're
contributing to right now by doing this, by saying this
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a little joky joke, a little hei he, y'all know,
we good for a little key key Okay. One thing
black people are gonna be good for. You don't want
to sit downe at the space table with us if
if you ain't talking tough enough, and we're gonna have
a little key, key, But it does get to a
point sometimes where I don't even having to check myself, Like, yo, bro,
my grandma used.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
To say, is that's your mind or your manners?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And I literally have to think about that to myself sometimes,
like Okay, you're going too far?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Why?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
What in you makes you want to have a person
feel that way? And I don't know what it is
about us man like, but we enjoy I don't even
know if we enjoy it. Maybe it's a subconscious thing.
I don't even want to solve it. I don't even
want to answer that question. I want to ask you, guys,
black women, what is it that causes you to be
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comfortable with getting online, getting on.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
These platforms and dragging other black women?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because one of the things that I have from the
conversation I just showed you guys at the breakfast club.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You know, I've learned two things.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I learned out of that conversation and the conversations that
came after, because I had a lot of black women
reach out.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
To me, and I had two things happen.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I had a lot of black women telling me you
should not be having those conversations publicly, And then I
had a lot of black women come to me and
being like.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I'm glad you said especially women my age and younger.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm glad you said something, because why do we got
to be hate and put through hell to feel love
from another black woman? Like why does that always have
to be the thing? Like why does it have to
be like the you're fighting your it's almost like you
blood and blood out into the mean girl club?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Like why does that always have to be a thing?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And then you know, for the women who are reaching
out to me saying you shouldn't have had that conversation publicly,
And that's what I'm seeing a lot of Kelly uh
Price's comments, Black women saying, Yo, this ain't all black women.
Why would you even bring this online and make this
a narrative. It's not all black women. Nothing is ever all.
But if it's happening, and it's happening in a you know,
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in a in a way that it feels like it's
big to her, she decides to talk about it. Let's
talk about it because it is a thing. It does happen,
and we always have to act like it doesn't. I'm
tired of acting like it doesn't. I'm tired of having
to act like, you know, everybody's just so loving its sister,
I see you and black Girl magic, Brown Girl grinding, No, Yo.
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The the point in me having Brown Girl grinding was
I wanted people to realize, like, we don't even have
to all like each other, but were gonna be nice
to each other, especially publicly, because we should be able
to be at a point where we are educated, we
are moving culture forward, we are the taste makers. We
all know that the Black Girls is where it's at,
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Like we all know this, right, but we can't go
somewhere and yelling from the mountaintops and then inside the
house where it supposed to matter, right like when we
rep in and standing for each other, we're throwing rocks
at a glass house.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like it can't be like that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I've had to come to realize that, and you know,
my you know, as I'm getting older and I try
and put that out into the world because that's what
I want to come my way. But I'm gonna tell
y'all something, y'all rough as hell. Y'all be rough as hell.
So for everybody that is commenting, you know, and you know,
because now outlets are picking this up and are throwing
conversation Kelly Price's way about what she should not have done.
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I think let's listen to what she's saying and get
to the root of the conversation.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Are we mean to each other or what? And why?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And if the answer to that is because it's some
things that we're dealing with ourselves. Because I had to
take a look at at myself a long time ago
and be like, bro, what are you going through that
you have to project this to people around you? Or like,
what have you been taught that you need to unlearn
that you got to project this to people around you,
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not every now and then. And I'm not saying because
sometimes sometimes you you know, people do need a little
bit of stop playing with me sometimes, So listen, and we.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Ain't gonna love everything.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You're not gonna love everybody, But y'all get the gist
of what I'm saying, because when when I had that conversation,
it was so many people calling me being and to
be honest with you, I had conversations with people in
my own life after that conversation I had that were like, Yo,
this is how you feel?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Was our part of that? Yeah, you were?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And I couldn't say anything because We're also taught that,
especially if someone's older than you, you sit down, you
shut up, and you take that order. But all of
that cycles down into generations and generations and no, and
I'm not saying go cut your elders out. I am
not saying that, okay, because listen, baby, I ain't got
nothing for you of granny to go tell you get
the switch.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But what I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Telling you is is that we should take more like
note of what we put out. And because you never
know how that's affecting someone up, I obviously just affected her.
So how dare somebody come on her platform and say,
why would you talk about this? Because now this has
become the narrative, what about why are we doing this
to each other in the first place. I love being
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a black woman. I love seeing other black women thrive.
You know, I think one of the things I've had
to learn because I've always worked like I come from
a real family, and then you go out into the
world that has raised me to be. Ain't nobody gonna
break me down. It's me versus the world. And if
it is that, so be it. I'm gonna head up
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chin high. Make up done, lip gloss on pumps on
that that's what we' given every single day. You will
never know what I'm going through over here unless I
decide to tell you. But you go out into the
world and the world begins to like break you down,
like as a black, especially if you're working in a
world like this is my first time in my life
where I'm able to focus on black people and black things.
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Before that, I've always been like the only or the minority,
like you know, outside of being at Dell State University.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So shout out to my HBCU.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And that's why I think I enjoyed that experience so much,
because work wise and like professionally, I've always been in
spaces where I'm the only black girl or I'm one
of like few black people. So I've always had to
learn to kind of like tuck my tail a little
bit and just be happy to be somewhere when that
is not how I was raised whatsoever at all. So
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when I finally got to a space where I'm like, Okay,
I don't got to do that. I can be happy.
I can be happy to see, you know, somebody like
me doing well and sitting across from someone like me
or whatever. And then you start feeling and seeing all
of the like conniving and you know, like just all
of the the stuff Kelly Price is talking about the
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discuss It's so sad sometimes and again this is not
all black people or black women, but baby, when you
feel it, it hits.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And I think because we're black women.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
We know a bit, like you know how to hit
that like that soft spot, you know exactly what, you
know how to read a bit, you know exactly what
to say to get someone to a point where it's
like they're going to react. I've had to tell myself
multiple times in public spaces, we can't do that to
each other. Like if we want to have a conversation
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about what we don't agree on, what we don't like,
you may not love me, or you may not even
like me, or like what I'm wearing when I got
going on boom.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We can do that.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And jokes is cool, the jokes can fly, but it
gets to a point where it goes beyond a respected,
respectful conversation. It goes beyond a little jokey joking out
a personal attack and it's like you, why are you
attacking what you see when you look in the mirror,
And when it comes to black men. You know, again,
I think the only thing wrong here with the you know,
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Kelly Price's words to me was it was so generalized
that you're going to hit people who don't deserve it
when you get on a platform and make things so general.
But I will say, in my life and recently, I've
experienced black men who like can't wake to be like yo,
stop playing with her, period. But you do have you know,
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the other, the opposite and all the things. And Kelly
Price said what she said, what she said again about
the black man. We don't even gotta get there. We
don't cause to me, I mean, I don't. I don't
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even think that. I know too many men who play
in this field of commenting on women and you know,
all the things too much. I think the last time
in a public forum yet, the last time in a
public forum, you know, there was any serious thing where
there was conversation about me and it was involving another
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black man, people were quick to jump to, no, we're
not gonna do that, And it wasn't because it was me.
It was more so, this is a black woman and
you're a black man. That's supposed to be a protective
space for her, And we ain't even joking or keep
keying right now, because I know y'all be piss at
Charlottagne too. We ain't talking about him, though, we talked
about a whole other situation. If y'all remember some things,
y'all know what I'm talking about. Well, I ain't even gonna, Yeah,
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we ain't giving the grace of all that over here,
of calling the names or whatever. But when I saw that,
you know happen, I was like number one, I had
to take accountability in a moment and say, I need
to be more responsible about what I even lend my time, attention,
thought and word too, because I don't even want to
put black men that I love in a space where
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they feel like they have to jump to protect her,
jumping a line of fire. But again, a lot of
this stuff comes and you know, the black men that
I love that was ready to you know what I mean, Nah,
we're not doing that one with this one over here.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's something that they normally do.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They're you know what I mean, they have black women
around them that they're building up and they're loving on
every single day. So even with black men again, I
think and I'm not you know, I'm not a black man,
so I can't speak for y'all, can only speak in
my experiences with black men. I think it's just a
thing of like how you were raised and who you
were raised around. Because again, it's that when you look
in the mirror, when you looking at me, you should
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see your mom, your sister, your grandma, and your aunt
and your cousin somebody like That's how that's a stranger
on the street if it's a black man. If I
see someone in harms way or whatever. I'm not superman,
but that's literally what I see. I instantly go into them.
That could be my brother, men, that could have been
my dad, men, that could have been my uncle, my cousin,
like instantly.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And that's all we want for y'all to do as well.
And that's all she said.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I just anyway, in certain conversations when it comes to
women and their appearances, men should not join in on
like a little you have a little key key boom,
have your keykey and move on. But don't key key
too much, because now I'm trying to figure out do
me and you pe the same?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Okay, y'all. So this has been.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
A very interesting topic today and I know I'm probably
gonna get some heat for some of the things I said,
but listen, I'm inviting all of the heat that smoke
because I think conversations like this they're good, Like it's
it's a good, healthy conversation to have. But anytime you
point the finger, someone's gonna be upset. And there's always
fingers being pointed back at you. So I already I
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already know how this is about to go. But I
want to hear from you guys, So make sure you
get in the comments, get to the streets and the tweets.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Outside, We outside, we outside, outside, every other page.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Y'all know, we outside, we outside. Let me know how
you guys are feeling about this. It's Kelly Price wrong
for getting on her platform and having this conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Have you experienced anything like this? Whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Were you the person you know dragging other you know,
black women, or men dragging black women, or this could
even go for men on men as well, men and
how you deal with other black men as well too.
I want to hear from you, guys.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I'm Laura la.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Rosa everywhere l O R E N l O R
O s A. Please let me know join in on
this conversation. It's the one time I'm telling y'all get
all in my comments, okay at me, I talk back
at the end of the day. There's always a lot
to talk about, and you guys could be anywhere with
anybody talking about it. But every single episodes, you guys
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choose to be right here with me, my Lowriders.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I appreciate you guys for that. I will see you
in my next episode.
Jewist.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody, you know, if.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
You don't lie about that, right, Lauren K Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Y'all, what's up.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's Laura de Rosa and this is the Latest with
Lauren de Rosa. This is your daily dig on all
things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations
that shake the room.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now, y'all know, my favorite episodes are the ones where
we have a little bit of mixture of all the things.
It's pop culture, it's entertainment, and I know this conversation
is going to shake a room or two or three.
So getting right on into the latest, Miss Kelly Price,
R and B singer R and B legend icon Kelly
Price took to her Instagram live to give us forty
(00:46):
five minutes of things and it was not vocals. Okay,
her mic was on, but this time she has some
words for the people. Let's take a listen. She says
black women are some of the most nasty, disrespectful people
because they've trold her appearance.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Let's take a listening.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I'm letting you have it right now because the ain't nothing
you can do about that. And while you looking for
a new job. I'm still gonna be selling out theaters
and venues looking like a fat slob and clothes that
you said that I look nasty in and my feet
is so damn big, and who dressed me. I'm still
gonna be making my money. I don't even do this,
(01:23):
but I'm so sick of black people, and they're both.
I'm saying what I want to say. If you got
a problem with what I'm saying, and you know, Lord,
pray for me, because I'm not there yet.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Black women, you are some of the most nasty.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Disrespectful people on God's planet Earth, the things that you
say about other black women women. But you're an activist
and you are educated, and you are this, and you
are that and you are the other.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Alrighty, So the mic was on Kelly Price said what
she said. I told you guys, this is a forty
five minute long IG live.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
She did it late, you know, overnight in La.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Literally we woke up to these words, and obviously it
was something that was on her spirit, on her heart.
She performed Friday in Memphis at the Orphium. I believe
I'm saying I right the Orphium Theater and there is
photos and videos of her posting on stage. I went
because I was trying to figure out what prompted this,
because you know, I went through some of her other pictures,
(02:26):
and you know, it might have been this might have
been a long time coming. Like I know, Kelly Price
has had conversations about, you know, how the industry dealt
with her when it came to her weight and her
having to figure that out and navigate that space.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So I know that this is not a.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
New area for her to hear people be critical of
things about her in relation to her and all of
those things. But I did want to try and understand
a bit more of like what caused her to get
on live, because as she says, she doesn't normally do this.
I've never seen Kelly Price go live to rid a bitch, Okay,
I've never seen it. Now do I agree with her?
(03:01):
I hate to have to say it, but I do.
I do agree with her. I do believe that. And
it's not all black women, it's not everybody. It's not
all black men either, but I do think that we
unknowingly are some of the toughest people on each other yo,
especially in public forums, like especially when it comes to
(03:22):
you know, people sitting on platforms, and everybody got mics
nown and even if you don't have a microphone or
a camera in front of you, just you know, being
on your keyboard and you know, on your phone, and
you on Twitter, and you in the comments, and it's
all about who's comment can get the most likes in
the shade room comments and no shade to the shape room.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Love my people over there. But y'all know what I'm
getting at.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I completely understand, I completely feel her. I think one
of the things that I'm starting to see from this
and when I said that I saw her performance Friday
at that theater in Memphis, I realized on that video
that the comments on that video were turned off. I
did not see the comments on that video before they
(04:01):
were turned off, So I don't know specifically if that wasn't.
But the other posts she collab that post on her page,
but the other post on her page, the comments are
not turned off. So I'm assuming that the person who
posted that, which was the person who had posted about,
you know, seeing her and being excited to see her
in Memphis, turned the comments off and then she saw
(04:22):
the comments and went live. That's I'm assuming this tracks,
but I don't know that to be confirmed. Regardless of
what went down with comment, it was whatever she saw
she it pissed her off, and she wanted to address
the girls, and that is exactly what she did. Okay,
read them to a t. Here's my thing, though, and
y'all let me know how y'all feel about this again.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Get in the streets, get.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Into y'all want to comment, Let's have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Let's start with black women.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
So in my own and I'm only speak here for
my personal experience, I cannot speak for Kelly Price. In
my personal experience, I think not even I think what
I have felt just in the little bit of time
that you guys have gotten to know me on this platform,
people are so critical of your looks everything.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I get comments about the way I pronounce words, the
way I say words, I get comments about. So It's
like I get comments when I am when I'm over
pronunciating or I'm talking proper, people are like, why is
she talking like that? Or I've always gotten like the
you know, the whole she's talking white?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Who does she think she is? Like that whole thing? Right?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But then when I'm not talking out because I go
in and out. It depends, like I don't know, I
go in and out of you know, being able to
you know, my dialect changes depending on what I'm talking
about sometimes or you know, just what the surrounding is,
like if I'm talking about court, if I'm talking about whatever.
But I remember I walked out of the shave room,
the shave room, I walked out of court during the
(05:50):
Diddy trial, and I use the words I think I said.
The prosecutors did their big one, and y'all was all
over me. And I don't even just mean in the
shave room comments. I mean it went from I'm to
shave room comments to my Instagram. I've seen threads about
myself on Twitter. On threads, there's always yo. When I
went to freaking Dominican Republic and I put on a
(06:12):
bathing suit, y'all would have thought that I committed murder.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I was everything. I was uneducated.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I was the reason why black young women don't have
careers and futures. I was nothing to be looked up to.
It was crazy, like, it was honestly insane. I'm learning
to like I've never been a person that like let
social media like ruin my whole life, room, my whole day.
But you do see the comments. I've had to learn
to stay out of the comments because I'd be wanting
(06:39):
to get right back at y'all, like that's how I feel.
So I understand Kelly Price and again the issue that
she's experiencing. I'm not making this about me whatsoever, But
I think when I hear her talk and then I
see people in the comments saying.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Why are you saying this?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Why would you get on a platform and speak against
black women? That's my issue majority of the time with
us as black women. If this is what she's experiencing,
why does she got to talk about it in the shadows?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I think if we talked about.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It more openly and we shamed people or people had
to deal with consequences when they did it, there wouldn't
be as much of it. I don't think that we
understand the power of like group, group group. Look, y'all
gonna drave me forgetting that we're wrong group economics and
group think. I really don't think that we understand that,
(07:28):
especially because like when you're talking about a person like
a Kelly Price, or even when we saw with Essence
Festival I was mad as hell at us about that.
And majority of the of the receipts in the videos
and all the things I saw it was black woman led.
And again I'm gonna talk about black women and black men,
but I'm talking two black women first because as a
(07:49):
black woman, I've experienced this myself, so I could speak
to it. But when you talk about a Kelly Price,
so you talk about the way that this woman looks right,
so the talking about her way, talking about how she's dressed, you.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Talk about all these things.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
These are conversations that, if put in the right echo chamber,
can echo to a point where they might affect money, brand, business, whatever.
Not saying that that is why she got on Live
and decided to, you know, say all the things she said.
But I think about that, and I think about essence
special when I think about the things that we choose
to focus our time on and joining as a group
(08:25):
to you know, shame.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Everybody has a little key key every now and then,
but it gets to a point where it's like, this
is not even a joke, it's not even funny. Are
you okay? Like are you are you okay? Because at
the end of the day. That is a woman who
you don't know what she's going through. Every single day.
She is getting up, she is getting on the stage,
she is getting in front of people, and she is
doing her job every single day to be able to
pay her bills. Why be the person or why want
(08:50):
to be the people in a group, whether it's in
comments or whatever, that want to break her spirit enough
to the point where she can't do that. We've heard
so many conversations about singers, you know, and them having
to deal with physical appearance and showing up and just
all of these things. I don't understand why, Like I
(09:11):
don't understand why people are so comfortable with doing and
saying certain things. And when it comes to black women,
I think a lot of times, you know, from what
I've experienced, we think we're helping each other by doing this.
It's like I remember we were having a conversation on
a breakfast club. It was me Charlottmagne and being a
carry champion and I will insert a bit of a
(09:32):
conversation here. I always felt like in the media space, though,
like the in what we do, I always felt like
when it came to black women, it's never a real
genuine mentorship. It's always like I've never met a woman.
I don't have any mentors that don't on camera and
do what I do because everybody feel like I'm coming
for what they got going on all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
So I can't. I can't support that.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But I.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Can't.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Im I used to be, but I have to feel
that way.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But the reality is is that when you let these
people know where you come from and what you want, like, yes,
people will hate on you, that's just the nature of
this business. But you have to find a community of
women who have your back. And I'm sure there are
some you see right now, there's somebody who's listening to
you right now who's gonna be like, I'm gonna take
care of her now.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
My point in bringing this this piece up was as
a younger black woman trying to figure out and navigate
the world every day. And I don't mean like because
I got I have family. I'm y'all hear me talking
about my family all the time. I'm really close to
my family. So I have family. So I have black
women that I can go to and that can nurture
and I can have conversations. But even there sometimes like
(10:43):
and then you go out into the world and it's
the same thing we are taught sometimes at being tough,
being hard, being negative, you know, pointing out the worst
first is helping to build someone to be strong. And
it's like no, And I think because we're taught that,
and that's how we're raised in our householders. It's a
generational thing that we then pass on to our daughters
(11:04):
and you know, things of that nature. But then we
take that out into the world. And I say we
because I know I've been guilty of it. Like listen,
I've been on the receiving side of it, so I
understand where Kelly Price is coming from. But I've also
been the person that's been throwing it out there as
well too, And a lot of times I'd be having
a correct myself, like, bro, you don't know what you're
contributing to right now by doing this, by saying this
(11:25):
a little joky joke, a little hei he, y'all know,
we good for a little key key Okay. One thing
black people are gonna be good for. You don't want
to sit downe at the space table with us if
if you ain't talking tough enough, and we're gonna have
a little key, key, But it does get to a
point sometimes where I don't even having to check myself, Like, yo, bro,
my grandma used.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
To say, is that's your mind or your manners?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And I literally have to think about that to myself sometimes,
like Okay, you're going too far?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Why?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
What in you makes you want to have a person
feel that way? And I don't know what it is
about us man like, but we enjoy I don't even
know if we enjoy it. Maybe it's a subconscious thing.
I don't even want to solve it. I don't even
want to answer that question. I want to ask you, guys,
black women, what is it that causes you to be
(12:14):
comfortable with getting online, getting on.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
These platforms and dragging other black women?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because one of the things that I have from the
conversation I just showed you guys at the breakfast club.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You know, I've learned two things.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I learned out of that conversation and the conversations that
came after, because I had a lot of black women
reach out.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
To me, and I had two things happen.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I had a lot of black women telling me you
should not be having those conversations publicly, And then I
had a lot of black women come to me and
being like.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I'm glad you said especially women my age and younger.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm glad you said something, because why do we got
to be hate and put through hell to feel love
from another black woman? Like why does that always have
to be the thing? Like why does it have to
be like the you're fighting your it's almost like you
blood and blood out into the mean girl club?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Like why does that always have to be a thing?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And then you know, for the women who are reaching
out to me saying you shouldn't have had that conversation publicly,
And that's what I'm seeing a lot of Kelly uh
Price's comments, Black women saying, Yo, this ain't all black women.
Why would you even bring this online and make this
a narrative. It's not all black women. Nothing is ever all.
But if it's happening, and it's happening in a you know,
(13:28):
in a in a way that it feels like it's
big to her, she decides to talk about it. Let's
talk about it because it is a thing. It does happen,
and we always have to act like it doesn't. I'm
tired of acting like it doesn't. I'm tired of having
to act like, you know, everybody's just so loving its sister,
I see you and black Girl magic, Brown Girl grinding, No, Yo.
(13:50):
The the point in me having Brown Girl grinding was
I wanted people to realize, like, we don't even have
to all like each other, but were gonna be nice
to each other, especially publicly, because we should be able
to be at a point where we are educated, we
are moving culture forward, we are the taste makers. We
all know that the Black Girls is where it's at,
(14:12):
Like we all know this, right, but we can't go
somewhere and yelling from the mountaintops and then inside the
house where it supposed to matter, right like when we
rep in and standing for each other, we're throwing rocks
at a glass house.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like it can't be like that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I've had to come to realize that, and you know,
my you know, as I'm getting older and I try
and put that out into the world because that's what
I want to come my way. But I'm gonna tell
y'all something, y'all rough as hell. Y'all be rough as hell.
So for everybody that is commenting, you know, and you know,
because now outlets are picking this up and are throwing
conversation Kelly Price's way about what she should not have done.
(14:49):
I think let's listen to what she's saying and get
to the root of the conversation.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Are we mean to each other or what? And why?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And if the answer to that is because it's some
things that we're dealing with ourselves. Because I had to
take a look at at myself a long time ago
and be like, bro, what are you going through that
you have to project this to people around you? Or like,
what have you been taught that you need to unlearn
that you got to project this to people around you,
(15:18):
not every now and then. And I'm not saying because
sometimes sometimes you you know, people do need a little
bit of stop playing with me sometimes, So listen, and we.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Ain't gonna love everything.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You're not gonna love everybody, But y'all get the gist
of what I'm saying, because when when I had that conversation,
it was so many people calling me being and to
be honest with you, I had conversations with people in
my own life after that conversation I had that were like, Yo,
this is how you feel?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Was our part of that? Yeah, you were?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And I couldn't say anything because We're also taught that,
especially if someone's older than you, you sit down, you
shut up, and you take that order. But all of
that cycles down into generations and generations and no, and
I'm not saying go cut your elders out. I am
not saying that, okay, because listen, baby, I ain't got
nothing for you of granny to go tell you get
the switch.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But what I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Telling you is is that we should take more like
note of what we put out. And because you never
know how that's affecting someone up, I obviously just affected her.
So how dare somebody come on her platform and say,
why would you talk about this? Because now this has
become the narrative, what about why are we doing this
to each other in the first place. I love being
(16:33):
a black woman. I love seeing other black women thrive.
You know, I think one of the things I've had
to learn because I've always worked like I come from
a real family, and then you go out into the
world that has raised me to be. Ain't nobody gonna
break me down. It's me versus the world. And if
it is that, so be it. I'm gonna head up
(16:54):
chin high. Make up done, lip gloss on pumps on
that that's what we' given every single day. You will
never know what I'm going through over here unless I
decide to tell you. But you go out into the
world and the world begins to like break you down,
like as a black, especially if you're working in a
world like this is my first time in my life
where I'm able to focus on black people and black things.
(17:16):
Before that, I've always been like the only or the minority,
like you know, outside of being at Dell State University.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So shout out to my HBCU.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And that's why I think I enjoyed that experience so much,
because work wise and like professionally, I've always been in
spaces where I'm the only black girl or I'm one
of like few black people. So I've always had to
learn to kind of like tuck my tail a little
bit and just be happy to be somewhere when that
is not how I was raised whatsoever at all. So
(17:48):
when I finally got to a space where I'm like, Okay,
I don't got to do that. I can be happy.
I can be happy to see, you know, somebody like
me doing well and sitting across from someone like me
or whatever. And then you start feeling and seeing all
of the like conniving and you know, like just all
of the the stuff Kelly Price is talking about the
(18:09):
discuss It's so sad sometimes and again this is not
all black people or black women, but baby, when you
feel it, it hits.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And I think because we're black women.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
We know a bit, like you know how to hit
that like that soft spot, you know exactly what, you
know how to read a bit, you know exactly what
to say to get someone to a point where it's
like they're going to react. I've had to tell myself
multiple times in public spaces, we can't do that to
each other. Like if we want to have a conversation
(18:42):
about what we don't agree on, what we don't like,
you may not love me, or you may not even
like me, or like what I'm wearing when I got
going on boom.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We can do that.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And jokes is cool, the jokes can fly, but it
gets to a point where it goes beyond a respected,
respectful conversation. It goes beyond a little jokey joking out
a personal attack and it's like you, why are you
attacking what you see when you look in the mirror,
And when it comes to black men. You know, again,
I think the only thing wrong here with the you know,
(19:14):
Kelly Price's words to me was it was so generalized
that you're going to hit people who don't deserve it
when you get on a platform and make things so general.
But I will say, in my life and recently, I've
experienced black men who like can't wake to be like yo,
stop playing with her, period. But you do have you know,
(19:35):
the other, the opposite and all the things. And Kelly
Price said what she said, what she said again about
the black man. We don't even gotta get there. We
don't cause to me, I mean, I don't. I don't
(19:55):
even think that. I know too many men who play
in this field of commenting on women and you know,
all the things too much. I think the last time
in a public forum yet, the last time in a
public forum, you know, there was any serious thing where
there was conversation about me and it was involving another
(20:15):
black man, people were quick to jump to, no, we're
not gonna do that, And it wasn't because it was me.
It was more so, this is a black woman and
you're a black man. That's supposed to be a protective
space for her, And we ain't even joking or keep
keying right now, because I know y'all be piss at
Charlottagne too. We ain't talking about him, though, we talked
about a whole other situation. If y'all remember some things,
y'all know what I'm talking about. Well, I ain't even gonna, Yeah,
(20:37):
we ain't giving the grace of all that over here,
of calling the names or whatever. But when I saw that,
you know happen, I was like number one, I had
to take accountability in a moment and say, I need
to be more responsible about what I even lend my time, attention,
thought and word too, because I don't even want to
put black men that I love in a space where
(20:57):
they feel like they have to jump to protect her,
jumping a line of fire. But again, a lot of
this stuff comes and you know, the black men that
I love that was ready to you know what I mean, Nah,
we're not doing that one with this one over here.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's something that they normally do.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They're you know what I mean, they have black women
around them that they're building up and they're loving on
every single day. So even with black men again, I
think and I'm not you know, I'm not a black man,
so I can't speak for y'all, can only speak in
my experiences with black men. I think it's just a
thing of like how you were raised and who you
were raised around. Because again, it's that when you look
in the mirror, when you looking at me, you should
(21:36):
see your mom, your sister, your grandma, and your aunt
and your cousin somebody like That's how that's a stranger
on the street if it's a black man. If I
see someone in harms way or whatever. I'm not superman,
but that's literally what I see. I instantly go into them.
That could be my brother, men, that could have been
my dad, men, that could have been my uncle, my cousin,
like instantly.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And that's all we want for y'all to do as well.
And that's all she said.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I just anyway, in certain conversations when it comes to
women and their appearances, men should not join in on
like a little you have a little key key boom,
have your keykey and move on. But don't key key
too much, because now I'm trying to figure out do
me and you pe the same?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Okay, y'all. So this has been.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
A very interesting topic today and I know I'm probably
gonna get some heat for some of the things I said,
but listen, I'm inviting all of the heat that smoke
because I think conversations like this they're good, Like it's
it's a good, healthy conversation to have. But anytime you
point the finger, someone's gonna be upset. And there's always
fingers being pointed back at you. So I already I
(22:43):
already know how this is about to go. But I
want to hear from you guys, So make sure you
get in the comments, get to the streets and the tweets.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Outside, We outside, we outside, outside, every other page.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Y'all know, we outside, we outside. Let me know how
you guys are feeling about this. It's Kelly Price wrong
for getting on her platform and having this conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Have you experienced anything like this? Whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Were you the person you know dragging other you know,
black women, or men dragging black women, or this could
even go for men on men as well, men and
how you deal with other black men as well too.
I want to hear from you, guys.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I'm Laura la.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Rosa everywhere l O R E N l O R
O s A. Please let me know join in on
this conversation. It's the one time I'm telling y'all get
all in my comments, okay at me, I talk back
at the end of the day. There's always a lot
to talk about, and you guys could be anywhere with
anybody talking about it. But every single episodes, you guys
(23:43):
choose to be right here with me, my Lowriders.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I appreciate you guys for that. I will see you
in my next episode.
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