Kirk Franklin has a fantastic new show called Den of Kings where he has insightful and honest conversations with other industry legends including Tyler Perry, Young Jeezy and entrepreneur Derek Hayes this week. Loren analyzes and relates some of these conversations and also weighs in on the DC Young Fly back and forth with the OG Rick Ross.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, Lauri
can't even Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Laura l Rosa and this is the Latest with
Laura le Rosa, your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news,
and the conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Now we are here. We're back top of the week
for another episode of the Latest with Laurna Rosa. Getting
on right into the Latest. Wow, if you guys have
not checked out this series yet, I've been telling everybody
I know about it, especially if you are a black man.
I think that this series is for you. Kirk Franklin
has this series that he does on his YouTube channel
called Den of Kings.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
This series features several conversations between black men and it's
been you know, I've only there's only been two episodes,
and it's been centralized in very deep, thoughtful, reflect reflecting, reflectful.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Reflectule word try to see.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Denny King's got me trying to sound all deep like.
It's been centralizing conversations that really matter. That's basically my point.
And the first episode that I watched of den of
King's I believe we mentioned or you know, feature some
of that here on a previous episode. Make sure you
guys go take a listen to that. On his first episode,
he had Country Wayne, he had DC Young Fly, he
(01:21):
had daval Ellis, and man, when I tell y'all this
second episode is Kirk Franklin has not been disappointed with
these drops. So on the second episode, he's seated at
dinner because that's the setting of the conversation. They're always
at dinner at a home and it's very like, YO,
come over, let's let's you know politic, Let's have some
(01:42):
good conversation, you have some good food, and.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
That's what it feels like. So there's Tyler.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Perry, there's Gezy, and there's dere Kase who is the
husband of Pinky Cole who also owns Dave Cheesteakes. He
owns a cheese take business and a bunch of other
investments out of Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He's been moved and he's from Philly.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So they all sit down in conversation, and before they
even sit down, the conversation gets is there Kirk Franklin
starts to have a conversation about just how he handled
his business as an artist in one of his biggest regrets.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Let's take a listen, tell us, tell us, why y'all
fix your plate?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I know that one of the biggest mistakes I made
at twenty three years old. I messed up then on
my publishing, did all this music and didn't have the
money that I could have had. I missed the opportunity
to really be a boss.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Twenty three? What what? What album? Was that? The first record? Why?
Speaker 6 (02:41):
The first?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Why we sing? Why we sing? You you didn't or
you still don't own it?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I just started to own my publishing. Guess what song was?
Speaker 5 (02:48):
My first song owning was taking it to the king
and artist? You kidding me?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So from my twinnies to my authorities, I owned none
of my publishing. Now, of course you know it's I
got my songwriter's part, but I didn't get what is
the most important part that our people right, that that
copyright and then his whole sort of the thing is
because I did not always have the money that I
should have had, and said that I didn't have the
money I should have had a lot of times. You
(03:15):
got to act as zip right, you see what I'm saying.
You got to keep the kids lace. You gotta keep
white lace. You got to act a zip because everybody's
expecting you to have something because you got these plaques,
these awards, So my opportunity to really own something, I
didn't have enough confidence to fight for what I felt
like I deserved, right.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
But you got to give yourself grace for that because
you were number one. You were twenty three years old,
and what you didn't know, you didn't know that boar.
So you gotta get you'self grace for that for sure.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now, let me tell you, guys how insane that is.
Number one is insane because if you do not know,
and I don't know if you're listening to this podcast
and you don't know the cultural impact of Kirk Franklin.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I'm glad you joined us now, But how did you.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Even get here because you got to be under a
rock of some But Kirk Franklin's music and the era
of his music that he is talking about so big,
probably the biggest of his career. He's done amazing things,
you know since and all of his songs are big,
but there were those integrals, like those integral years, like
the songs that he is talking about that to this day,
(04:20):
I don't know one person who can't sing word for word.
I don't know one church that does not play these songs.
I don't know one movie that does not bring these
songs in when you're looking for a gospel soundtrack. This
has literally been the god soundtrack of our lives.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
To not own a publishing and knowing that he could have.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Wow, But this is how and this is why I
love the conversations that Kirk Franklin you know, is having
on this series because it's very honest and it's very like,
here are all the things I wish I knew because
I didn't know then and now I know, and it
could have saved me so much or earned me so much.
And it's very honest, and it's very generational, right like,
(04:57):
because you have people of all ages sitting at these tables,
in of all.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Success levels, so it's such a.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Safe learning space where it's like, you know a lot
of times about this conversation Derek, who is the husband
of Pinky Cole who does slightly vegan out of Atlanta
and you know he has to she said brand as well,
what was you know?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I think what was interesting to watch about the dynamic was.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
He kept referring to the fact that, like he's sitting
with icons because you got to think about, you know,
where a GZ is in his career today, Kirk Franklin,
A Tyler Perry, all these different levels of success in
these men are here saying here's what I didn't do well,
Here's what my insecurities were, being so vulnerable that y'all,
it's so fie, y'all gotta take a listen. But another
(05:41):
point that I thought was good, that not good. But
another conversation came up, uh GEZ and GZ and H
Tyler Perry and Kirk Franklin, all of the guys. They
were having a conversation about just like what are you
building for? Like understanding that like number one, everybody can't
go and number two, you can't feel guilty about that.
And you get to us a point where you have
to realize that and you know, you can't let your
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life experiences and people who've experienced certain things in your
life tell you any different. So they begin to have
a conversation and Tyler Perry goes into what it has
been like for him trying to employ family members.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I said a listen, I fired my aunt, I feel it.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
I fired my aunt. She said she wanted a job.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
She was she was, She would always call ask her
for money, ask for money. I'm like, okay, I was
sending the money and I said, listen, I want to
help you. I don't want to help you build this thing,
not not the welfare to you, So let me give
you a job. And she wasn't coming in, calling in
all the time. I think, okay, well you got to
go because because you want me to hand you the money,
but you don't want to work for it. See that
doesn't That doesn't work for me. And it's the same
way with my son, like he's ten years old, Like
(06:46):
there are certain things that he wants, he has to
do chores and.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Work for it. I don't.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I don't believe in giving us things that are just
going to handicap us.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
That is the worst thing you can do. And I've
had family.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Members that I've done that too, because my mother has.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Asked me to.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
And when she passed away in two thousand and nine,
and all of them letters saying, listen, you got sixty
days to become gainfully employed because I'm not.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Going to keep supporting you. Like one they all got jobs.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
And it wasn't even jobs where they're making a lot
of money, but it was a job. It was something
else for them to do to feel surprised. That's the
same thing I would want somebody to do for me.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But do you still do you still get like the
backsplash from that. You know, you said they wasn't making
a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Then they can look at you and say, well, why
I can't have more? And why am I working next
to somebody to make money?
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I have family member got mad at because I wouldn't
give them a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well, now I thought that this was like so honest
to Tyler Perry number one, because I think we all
understand like as we maneuver through life, I think this
has been one of my biggest things is like I
always want to help people, especially people who have been
around who I think are so talented, so gifted, but
might not always get the platform or the opportunity. And
it has worked out for me in a lot of arenas,
(07:48):
you know, where my friends who I've been doing this
with and been maneuvering with, I've been able to employ
them and pay them and you know, and I think
at one point in time you always remember, like all
what we wanted to do at one point was be.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Paid for this, be prayed for our art, for our talent.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
And if I'm able to be the person paying you
and helping you pay your bills because of that, I
would love to be. But then you get the hard
truth of like you gotta set boundaries. And I, you know,
oldest girl child in my family, I've always struggled with
sudden boundaries when it comes to family, like my immediate family,
because I'm always feeling guilty about not being able to
(08:27):
always be around time wise. I'm always feeling guilty sometimes
about choosing to pursue my own dreams over you know,
dedicating my life to the things that my mother and
my grandmother have already set up for us family business wise,
and you know, just not even being honestly even when
it comes to that, because I still help out with
things like as far as like their businesses and running
their businesses, but it's not how their businesses aren't ryan
(08:50):
how I would run minds. So a lot of times
I take a big step back, and it's tough to
watch them experience different things or like, you know, whatever,
especially because they're older. But I've had to learn a
lot of what Tyler Perry is demonstrated in this clip
of like something you can't Nothing is given, everything is earned,
and once a person shows you that they don't want
to earn it, you gonna sink trying to save the ship.
(09:12):
You cannot do it. You cannot do it. Now make
sure y'all go take a listen again. This is the
Dinner King series on Kirk Franklin's YouTube channel. I don't
know how often he drops them because the when I
saw prior to this, it took. It was a while
in between when this one that we're talking about dropped
in the first episode I saw, but baby, when they dropped,
(09:33):
they always good. I sat and watched it while eating
yesterday and fully and start to finish about an hour long.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Start to finish was I was there. He had me
on the edge of my seat.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Now talking about I mentioned DC Young Fly earlier in
this If we look talking about DC Young Fly, he
is in the latest okay, because lately he has been
making headlines because of these comments that he made while
sitting down with Rory and Male on their podcast.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
So say a listen.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You went and did a podcast A white podcast. You
shot your ass right there Almo two hours and you
talk and the white folk asked your ass. Was you
a fucking correctional officer? We would have never asked you
no ship like that. Nigga got respect for you, and
(10:28):
you sat right there and you answered that question so eloquently, eloquently,
you dig what I'm saying like it wasn't even disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And then I get to.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Sit back and watch that ship and be like, damn,
what's the difference between them and us?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I feel disrespected? You feel what I'm saying because you're like, damn, man,
niggas a man, my nigga, come on, don't say money
we got it, you got it, But nigga, we fucked
with you.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Don't do us like that and it's still love, but nigga, yeah,
don't do.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Us like Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I respect that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I don't think it was nothing wrong with what DC
Young Fly said in this clip at all.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I don't think so at all.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I think that the eighty five South Show is entitled
to feel away, not because of where Rick Ross went
after interviewing him. I understand the point he was making.
It's like, you know, culture is culture. Were supposed to
have us before anybody, but we took our time.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Our reason.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't think people understand content ain't free. We're paying
our cameras to be here, our team to be here.
We have a scheduled interview for a set amount of time.
The least you could have done was let us know, hey,
I only got but too much time, and we.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Would have did what we needed to do.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So Rick Ross didn't take too well to these comments
of DC Young Flies, and he responded saying this.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Look, bro, listen, man, I came to your podcast. I
came for free only no charge.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
I did on face, homie.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
I didn't ask you what you analytics was and this
and that. I came on face hold me to show love,
and don't make it like I walked off on you.
I left early. Moose had some other things to do too.
But guess what I came for free. I wasted that
nice Gucci jacket on that look, man, I couldn't even
(12:18):
really wasn't a Gucci jacket again. But I did it
for love. And next time I come for free, at
least say I mean some lemon pepper wing stopped had
that you heard me? But I came for free, I
ain't charge.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
You you feel me.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
Don't talk about rose other business. I came and did that.
And what is the analytics? How the show doing anyway? Man?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And I normally, like, you know, I'm normally like here
for Regross and his witty responses and how he promotes
the bel air when he does the responses. I thought
this was corny though. I thought that this was corny
because I felt like he was trying to little bro
them when Okay, you are older, you have been doing
this year, you are Rick Ross, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Like you are the OG and DC.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Young Fly gives you that, like he never does not
give you that when he talks about this moment.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
But it was like, don't diminish what they've accomplished.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Because I don't even know what cause I was gonna say,
because you can't point to an accomplishment. And when it
for real, if you've been paying attention, eighty five South
show has been they've been giving it up analytic analytically,
like their their stuff online is doing well, and forget online,
let's talk about real things, like when they were on Netflix.
I remember they were like top ten in the US
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on Netflix for their special like, they're super talented, they
reach audiences, they reach masses, they you know, like and
they're so unique in how they have that conversation. I
just thought that it was I thought it was like
a it was just corny. It was like you're trying
to throw your weight around. You're trying to throw you know,
your celebrity around when they doing their thing too. Don't
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do that because if you didn't feel like they weren't
doing their thing, you wouldn't have came and sat on
their show for free, as you kept mentioned. But I
don't even got to defend how I feel. And this
is I mean, I don't personally know all the you know,
eighty five South show guys at all, so it's nothing personal.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I'm just you know, in my opinion, it was corny.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But I didn't have to even say all that because
DC Young Fly responded in a way that I thought
was genius.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Sick a listen, big Helmy. First of all, first of all,
you know it looks.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Second of all, I got to call a spade when
it's a spade. You see, you did it for free.
Everybody do it for free. Rouse you ain't the big
boosy did it for free, t I do it for free,
bust the rhyme, did it for free.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Snoop Dogg did it for free. Everybody who sat on
that couch do.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
It for free.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Now when you that wasn't the biggest moment. Now that's
one of the viral moments. But booshit episode eight million.
That country Wayne like six seven million. Like we do numbers,
we do analytics, analytics.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
We was the biggest before.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You came, and we with the biggest afterwards, so you
always got room to come back to be on the
biggest podcast in the world. Craig, you did what I'm saying.
But when you call a spade the spade, it get high.
And where you gotta go to kool oath. I'm going
to talk to my little home in DC in the
pool because it's hat. I got to get into the
(15:20):
pool because it's two hat Thatt Sad and August. Second,
y'all make sure y'all go to his pool party because
I'm not gonna be there. But you said I was
gonna beat there, Ross, but that's that's false advertising. I
didn't say give me a check, but get the free
promo on it because we family push up to his.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Pool party, y'all push.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Up because I'm gonna be in Philadelphia telling these jokes.
But everybody can get some money. Push up to the
pool party. But ross don't do that.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And and the jacket. You owed the jacket for no reason.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Why let me buy that mother Gucci jacket up off
you then so I can tell my son I bought this.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
From it who left? He said that he would for
no reason.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
It was a waste. So since we.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Didn't play you, I'm gonna play you for the Guccia
jack because if I gave you the money, I'm gon
want something.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Give me that jacket. Now.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I thought this was genius because number one DC Young
Fly is funny as hell. And I think if you're
a comedian and you're putting your space, you're putting yourself
in a space as also a personality or you know,
a broadcast or like a talking head because now they
have this podcast and are sitting down or doing interviews.
You don't want to run from the smoke. You never
want to run from the smoke. I mean, sometimes you
(16:32):
can duck it if the smoke ain't gonna do nothing,
you know what I mean. But if it makes sense
for you to address things head on. If you are
a part of the news, you lean in and you
being a part of the news, and that's exactly what
he did. But at the same time, and being a comedian,
it's like, give us the funny, and that's exactly what
he did. But I also love that he kept it
respectful because at the end of the day he said
(16:53):
many times he's a fan of Across's music, Brick Ross,
he still looks at him as an og but he
kept it very clear. Don't play with us though not
on no like we got real beef, but just like, don't
disrespect or discredit what we've worked on and what we built.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You're not the only person who comes here for free.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
This this show moves and did move with or without you.
And after you decided to leave, and I thought the
Gucci jacket thing was funny, let's take a listen to
that one more time.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And the jacket you owed the jacket for no reason.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We'll let me buy that mother Gucci jacket up off
you then so I can tell my son I bought
this from it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Who left? He said that he wore it for no reason.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
It was a waste. So since we.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Didn't play you I'm gonna pay you for the Gucci jacket,
cause if I gave you the money, I'm gonna want something.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Give me that jacket.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Because Ross made it such a big deal about this
Gucci jacket. D you s y'all fly like yo, come on,
then let me get that up off you like I
got bread, So it's up.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I thought it was genius.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I thought the response was genias, but I also felt
like this back and forth.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Is kind of pointless, like Rick Ross shouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Took it as personal as he did because it's warranted,
Like you wasted their time, bro, Like that wasn't cool.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Let me know what y'all think. They'll take it to
the streets, call the trets.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Be outside, we outside, we outside every other page.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
In the tweets at me.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I'm Lauren lo Rosa l O r e n l
O r O s a everywhere I want to hear
from y'all. Go watch Dinner Kings with Kirk Franklin and
Tyler Perry and all the guys GZ and Derrick Kay's
and then let me also know how you guys feel
about the DC Young Fly eighty five South Beef.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
With Rick Ross. Y'all feel like it's warranted. Is it
even worth talking about who was wrong? Who was right?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I feel like we're gross was wrong. But you know,
thank you guys for tuning on in. I tell you
every episode, at the end of the day, you could
be anywhere with anybody talking about all these things because
there's always a lot going on, but you choose to
be right here.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
With me, my Lowriders. I appreciate you, guys. I will
see you in my next episode.
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, Lauri
can't even Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Laura l Rosa and this is the Latest with
Laura le Rosa, your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news,
and the conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Now we are here. We're back top of the week
for another episode of the Latest with Laurna Rosa. Getting
on right into the Latest. Wow, if you guys have
not checked out this series yet, I've been telling everybody
I know about it, especially if you are a black man.
I think that this series is for you. Kirk Franklin
has this series that he does on his YouTube channel
called Den of Kings.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
This series features several conversations between black men and it's
been you know, I've only there's only been two episodes,
and it's been centralized in very deep, thoughtful, reflect reflecting, reflectful.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Reflectule word try to see.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Denny King's got me trying to sound all deep like.
It's been centralizing conversations that really matter. That's basically my point.
And the first episode that I watched of den of
King's I believe we mentioned or you know, feature some
of that here on a previous episode. Make sure you
guys go take a listen to that. On his first episode,
he had Country Wayne, he had DC Young Fly, he
(01:21):
had daval Ellis, and man, when I tell y'all this
second episode is Kirk Franklin has not been disappointed with
these drops. So on the second episode, he's seated at
dinner because that's the setting of the conversation. They're always
at dinner at a home and it's very like, YO,
come over, let's let's you know politic, Let's have some
(01:42):
good conversation, you have some good food, and.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
That's what it feels like. So there's Tyler.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Perry, there's Gezy, and there's dere Kase who is the
husband of Pinky Cole who also owns Dave Cheesteakes. He
owns a cheese take business and a bunch of other
investments out of Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He's been moved and he's from Philly.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So they all sit down in conversation, and before they
even sit down, the conversation gets is there Kirk Franklin
starts to have a conversation about just how he handled
his business as an artist in one of his biggest regrets.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Let's take a listen, tell us, tell us, why y'all
fix your plate?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I know that one of the biggest mistakes I made
at twenty three years old. I messed up then on
my publishing, did all this music and didn't have the
money that I could have had. I missed the opportunity
to really be a boss.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Twenty three? What what? What album? Was that? The first record? Why?
Speaker 6 (02:41):
The first?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Why we sing? Why we sing? You you didn't or
you still don't own it?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I just started to own my publishing. Guess what song was?
Speaker 5 (02:48):
My first song owning was taking it to the king
and artist? You kidding me?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So from my twinnies to my authorities, I owned none
of my publishing. Now, of course you know it's I
got my songwriter's part, but I didn't get what is
the most important part that our people right, that that
copyright and then his whole sort of the thing is
because I did not always have the money that I
should have had, and said that I didn't have the
money I should have had a lot of times. You
(03:15):
got to act as zip right, you see what I'm saying.
You got to keep the kids lace. You gotta keep
white lace. You got to act a zip because everybody's
expecting you to have something because you got these plaques,
these awards, So my opportunity to really own something, I
didn't have enough confidence to fight for what I felt
like I deserved, right.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
But you got to give yourself grace for that because
you were number one. You were twenty three years old,
and what you didn't know, you didn't know that boar.
So you gotta get you'self grace for that for sure.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now, let me tell you, guys how insane that is.
Number one is insane because if you do not know,
and I don't know if you're listening to this podcast
and you don't know the cultural impact of Kirk Franklin.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I'm glad you joined us now, But how did you.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Even get here because you got to be under a
rock of some But Kirk Franklin's music and the era
of his music that he is talking about so big,
probably the biggest of his career. He's done amazing things,
you know since and all of his songs are big,
but there were those integrals, like those integral years, like
the songs that he is talking about that to this day,
(04:20):
I don't know one person who can't sing word for word.
I don't know one church that does not play these songs.
I don't know one movie that does not bring these
songs in when you're looking for a gospel soundtrack. This
has literally been the god soundtrack of our lives.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
To not own a publishing and knowing that he could have.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Wow, But this is how and this is why I
love the conversations that Kirk Franklin you know, is having
on this series because it's very honest and it's very like,
here are all the things I wish I knew because
I didn't know then and now I know, and it
could have saved me so much or earned me so much.
And it's very honest, and it's very generational, right like,
(04:57):
because you have people of all ages sitting at these tables,
in of all.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Success levels, so it's such a.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Safe learning space where it's like, you know a lot
of times about this conversation Derek, who is the husband
of Pinky Cole who does slightly vegan out of Atlanta
and you know he has to she said brand as well,
what was you know?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I think what was interesting to watch about the dynamic was.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
He kept referring to the fact that, like he's sitting
with icons because you got to think about, you know,
where a GZ is in his career today, Kirk Franklin,
A Tyler Perry, all these different levels of success in
these men are here saying here's what I didn't do well,
Here's what my insecurities were, being so vulnerable that y'all,
it's so fie, y'all gotta take a listen. But another
(05:41):
point that I thought was good, that not good. But
another conversation came up, uh GEZ and GZ and H
Tyler Perry and Kirk Franklin, all of the guys. They
were having a conversation about just like what are you
building for? Like understanding that like number one, everybody can't
go and number two, you can't feel guilty about that.
And you get to us a point where you have
to realize that and you know, you can't let your
(06:04):
life experiences and people who've experienced certain things in your
life tell you any different. So they begin to have
a conversation and Tyler Perry goes into what it has
been like for him trying to employ family members.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I said a listen, I fired my aunt, I feel it.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
I fired my aunt. She said she wanted a job.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
She was she was, She would always call ask her
for money, ask for money. I'm like, okay, I was
sending the money and I said, listen, I want to
help you. I don't want to help you build this thing,
not not the welfare to you, So let me give
you a job. And she wasn't coming in, calling in
all the time. I think, okay, well you got to
go because because you want me to hand you the money,
but you don't want to work for it. See that
doesn't That doesn't work for me. And it's the same
way with my son, like he's ten years old, Like
(06:46):
there are certain things that he wants, he has to
do chores and.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Work for it. I don't.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I don't believe in giving us things that are just
going to handicap us.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
That is the worst thing you can do. And I've
had family.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Members that I've done that too, because my mother has.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Asked me to.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
And when she passed away in two thousand and nine,
and all of them letters saying, listen, you got sixty
days to become gainfully employed because I'm not.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Going to keep supporting you. Like one they all got jobs.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
And it wasn't even jobs where they're making a lot
of money, but it was a job. It was something
else for them to do to feel surprised. That's the
same thing I would want somebody to do for me.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But do you still do you still get like the
backsplash from that. You know, you said they wasn't making
a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Then they can look at you and say, well, why
I can't have more? And why am I working next
to somebody to make money?
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I have family member got mad at because I wouldn't
give them a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well, now I thought that this was like so honest
to Tyler Perry number one, because I think we all
understand like as we maneuver through life, I think this
has been one of my biggest things is like I
always want to help people, especially people who have been
around who I think are so talented, so gifted, but
might not always get the platform or the opportunity. And
it has worked out for me in a lot of arenas,
(07:48):
you know, where my friends who I've been doing this
with and been maneuvering with, I've been able to employ
them and pay them and you know, and I think
at one point in time you always remember, like all
what we wanted to do at one point was be.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Paid for this, be prayed for our art, for our talent.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
And if I'm able to be the person paying you
and helping you pay your bills because of that, I
would love to be. But then you get the hard
truth of like you gotta set boundaries. And I, you know,
oldest girl child in my family, I've always struggled with
sudden boundaries when it comes to family, like my immediate family,
because I'm always feeling guilty about not being able to
(08:27):
always be around time wise. I'm always feeling guilty sometimes
about choosing to pursue my own dreams over you know,
dedicating my life to the things that my mother and
my grandmother have already set up for us family business wise,
and you know, just not even being honestly even when
it comes to that, because I still help out with
things like as far as like their businesses and running
their businesses, but it's not how their businesses aren't ryan
(08:50):
how I would run minds. So a lot of times
I take a big step back, and it's tough to
watch them experience different things or like, you know, whatever,
especially because they're older. But I've had to learn a
lot of what Tyler Perry is demonstrated in this clip
of like something you can't Nothing is given, everything is earned,
and once a person shows you that they don't want
to earn it, you gonna sink trying to save the ship.
(09:12):
You cannot do it. You cannot do it. Now make
sure y'all go take a listen again. This is the
Dinner King series on Kirk Franklin's YouTube channel. I don't
know how often he drops them because the when I
saw prior to this, it took. It was a while
in between when this one that we're talking about dropped
in the first episode I saw, but baby, when they dropped,
(09:33):
they always good. I sat and watched it while eating
yesterday and fully and start to finish about an hour long.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Start to finish was I was there. He had me
on the edge of my seat.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Now talking about I mentioned DC Young Fly earlier in
this If we look talking about DC Young Fly, he
is in the latest okay, because lately he has been
making headlines because of these comments that he made while
sitting down with Rory and Male on their podcast.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
So say a listen.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You went and did a podcast A white podcast. You
shot your ass right there Almo two hours and you
talk and the white folk asked your ass. Was you
a fucking correctional officer? We would have never asked you
no ship like that. Nigga got respect for you, and
(10:28):
you sat right there and you answered that question so eloquently, eloquently,
you dig what I'm saying like it wasn't even disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And then I get to.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Sit back and watch that ship and be like, damn,
what's the difference between them and us?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I feel disrespected? You feel what I'm saying because you're like, damn, man,
niggas a man, my nigga, come on, don't say money
we got it, you got it, But nigga, we fucked
with you.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Don't do us like that and it's still love, but nigga, yeah,
don't do.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Us like Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I respect that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I don't think it was nothing wrong with what DC
Young Fly said in this clip at all.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I don't think so at all.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I think that the eighty five South Show is entitled
to feel away, not because of where Rick Ross went
after interviewing him. I understand the point he was making.
It's like, you know, culture is culture. Were supposed to
have us before anybody, but we took our time.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Our reason.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't think people understand content ain't free. We're paying
our cameras to be here, our team to be here.
We have a scheduled interview for a set amount of time.
The least you could have done was let us know, hey,
I only got but too much time, and we.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Would have did what we needed to do.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So Rick Ross didn't take too well to these comments
of DC Young Flies, and he responded saying this.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Look, bro, listen, man, I came to your podcast. I
came for free only no charge.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
I did on face, homie.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
I didn't ask you what you analytics was and this
and that. I came on face hold me to show love,
and don't make it like I walked off on you.
I left early. Moose had some other things to do too.
But guess what I came for free. I wasted that
nice Gucci jacket on that look, man, I couldn't even
(12:18):
really wasn't a Gucci jacket again. But I did it
for love. And next time I come for free, at
least say I mean some lemon pepper wing stopped had
that you heard me? But I came for free, I
ain't charge.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
You you feel me.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
Don't talk about rose other business. I came and did that.
And what is the analytics? How the show doing anyway? Man?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And I normally, like, you know, I'm normally like here
for Regross and his witty responses and how he promotes
the bel air when he does the responses. I thought
this was corny though. I thought that this was corny
because I felt like he was trying to little bro
them when Okay, you are older, you have been doing
this year, you are Rick Ross, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Like you are the OG and DC.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Young Fly gives you that, like he never does not
give you that when he talks about this moment.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
But it was like, don't diminish what they've accomplished.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Because I don't even know what cause I was gonna say,
because you can't point to an accomplishment. And when it
for real, if you've been paying attention, eighty five South
show has been they've been giving it up analytic analytically,
like their their stuff online is doing well, and forget online,
let's talk about real things, like when they were on Netflix.
I remember they were like top ten in the US
(13:33):
on Netflix for their special like, they're super talented, they
reach audiences, they reach masses, they you know, like and
they're so unique in how they have that conversation. I
just thought that it was I thought it was like
a it was just corny. It was like you're trying
to throw your weight around. You're trying to throw you know,
your celebrity around when they doing their thing too. Don't
(13:54):
do that because if you didn't feel like they weren't
doing their thing, you wouldn't have came and sat on
their show for free, as you kept mentioned. But I
don't even got to defend how I feel. And this
is I mean, I don't personally know all the you know,
eighty five South show guys at all, so it's nothing personal.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I'm just you know, in my opinion, it was corny.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But I didn't have to even say all that because
DC Young Fly responded in a way that I thought
was genius.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Sick a listen, big Helmy. First of all, first of all,
you know it looks.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Second of all, I got to call a spade when
it's a spade. You see, you did it for free.
Everybody do it for free. Rouse you ain't the big
boosy did it for free, t I do it for free,
bust the rhyme, did it for free.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Snoop Dogg did it for free. Everybody who sat on
that couch do.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
It for free.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Now when you that wasn't the biggest moment. Now that's
one of the viral moments. But booshit episode eight million.
That country Wayne like six seven million. Like we do numbers,
we do analytics, analytics.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
We was the biggest before.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You came, and we with the biggest afterwards, so you
always got room to come back to be on the
biggest podcast in the world. Craig, you did what I'm saying.
But when you call a spade the spade, it get high.
And where you gotta go to kool oath. I'm going
to talk to my little home in DC in the
pool because it's hat. I got to get into the
(15:20):
pool because it's two hat Thatt Sad and August. Second,
y'all make sure y'all go to his pool party because
I'm not gonna be there. But you said I was
gonna beat there, Ross, but that's that's false advertising. I
didn't say give me a check, but get the free
promo on it because we family push up to his.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Pool party, y'all push.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Up because I'm gonna be in Philadelphia telling these jokes.
But everybody can get some money. Push up to the
pool party. But ross don't do that.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And and the jacket. You owed the jacket for no reason.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Why let me buy that mother Gucci jacket up off
you then so I can tell my son I bought this.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
From it who left? He said that he would for
no reason.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
It was a waste. So since we.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Didn't play you, I'm gonna play you for the Guccia
jack because if I gave you the money, I'm gon
want something.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Give me that jacket. Now.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I thought this was genius because number one DC Young
Fly is funny as hell. And I think if you're
a comedian and you're putting your space, you're putting yourself
in a space as also a personality or you know,
a broadcast or like a talking head because now they
have this podcast and are sitting down or doing interviews.
You don't want to run from the smoke. You never
want to run from the smoke. I mean, sometimes you
(16:32):
can duck it if the smoke ain't gonna do nothing,
you know what I mean. But if it makes sense
for you to address things head on. If you are
a part of the news, you lean in and you
being a part of the news, and that's exactly what
he did. But at the same time, and being a comedian,
it's like, give us the funny, and that's exactly what
he did. But I also love that he kept it
respectful because at the end of the day he said
(16:53):
many times he's a fan of Across's music, Brick Ross,
he still looks at him as an og but he
kept it very clear. Don't play with us though not
on no like we got real beef, but just like, don't
disrespect or discredit what we've worked on and what we built.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You're not the only person who comes here for free.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
This this show moves and did move with or without you.
And after you decided to leave, and I thought the
Gucci jacket thing was funny, let's take a listen to
that one more time.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And the jacket you owed the jacket for no reason.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We'll let me buy that mother Gucci jacket up off
you then so I can tell my son I bought
this from it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Who left? He said that he wore it for no reason.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
It was a waste. So since we.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Didn't play you I'm gonna pay you for the Gucci jacket,
cause if I gave you the money, I'm gonna want something.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Give me that jacket.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Because Ross made it such a big deal about this
Gucci jacket. D you s y'all fly like yo, come on,
then let me get that up off you like I
got bread, So it's up.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I thought it was genius.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I thought the response was genias, but I also felt
like this back and forth.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Is kind of pointless, like Rick Ross shouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Took it as personal as he did because it's warranted,
Like you wasted their time, bro, Like that wasn't cool.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Let me know what y'all think. They'll take it to
the streets, call the trets.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Be outside, we outside, we outside every other page.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
In the tweets at me.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I'm Lauren lo Rosa l O r e n l
O r O s a everywhere I want to hear
from y'all. Go watch Dinner Kings with Kirk Franklin and
Tyler Perry and all the guys GZ and Derrick Kay's
and then let me also know how you guys feel
about the DC Young Fly eighty five South Beef.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
With Rick Ross. Y'all feel like it's warranted. Is it
even worth talking about who was wrong? Who was right?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I feel like we're gross was wrong. But you know,
thank you guys for tuning on in. I tell you
every episode, at the end of the day, you could
be anywhere with anybody talking about all these things because
there's always a lot going on, but you choose to
be right here.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
With me, my Lowriders. I appreciate you, guys. I will
see you in my next episode.
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