October 19, 2024 • 50 mins
Cry Like a Man: A Fireside Chat with Tyrese Gibson, Jason Wilson and Dr. Alfiee. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
How y'all doing.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, I'm gonna talk fast because you ain't here to
see me. You here to see these two gentlemen I'm
about to bring out. So let me just let me
just say, it's an honor to have you here again
on behalf of Charlemagne and God I Heeart Radio, the
Mental Health Alliance, and my Nonproperty a Coma project, all
our sponsors. We're so happy to have you. I'm just
gonna tell you what's on my heart. I feel like
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this next thirty minutes is gonna be like some healing's
gonna happen. And so let me bring out my first guest,
this brother. You know him, you love him. He has
three books. After this session because he cares about the
people so much, he had to cut his book signing
session short. So he's going to be back out there
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for a little bit of time to sign his book.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The books that you all know are Battle Cry and
the book we're going to talk a little bit about today,
Cry Like a Man. There's another book coming out in January.
The Man the Moment demands this brother. Every time I
watch him, I cry. We met about I don't know
ten years ago at an event for Sam said the
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Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration, and he was fascinating.
Then he's captivating now, so please help me. Welcome mister
Jason Wilson. All right, I can't say enough words about
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this other brother. I will say, I'm gen X. I'
gonna date myself. I hope you don't get mad at me.
I remember him from Cold Cold commercial. That's how I
got introduced him. So where my gen X is at?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Make some noise? That's right, yeah, gen X.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
All right, So this brother, what can I say? My
family is a huge transform Oh there, ain't go but
that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
There, it is there, It is all right, thank you
for me.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Appreciate you. So he was like, I ain't doing all.
Let I'm just gonna come out. I'm not mad, all right,
let me start this conversation.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, I didn't want to hear my wikip pitia page.
It's all good, so let me just start. Hell.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So, I'm just gonna start by asking each of you, gentlemen,
what was it, if there's any one thing that encouraged
you to start having a conversation about black men and
their mental health.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
For me, it was I think when I was about
to lose my marriage. My wife and I remember vividly,
were in a heated argument in the kitchen and she
simply I said, I wish I could spend more time
with our son Jason, and she had said that she
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wished I had that same desire to spend time with her,
and she didn't say it in a way that was combative,
but I took it as something else I wasn't doing right,
And in that moment, before I knew it, I hit
the refrigerator and started yelling at the top of my
lungs at the woman that I'm supposed to protect and love,
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and right before my eyes I saw her spirit like
just doing do down. And at that moment the most
I said, you need some work. You haven't released all
that you've been through and as a result, it's affecting
where you are. And so at that moment, because we
were about to get separated, and I chose to say,
you know what, I'm going to deal with what's been
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going on inside of me so that I can heal.
And so that was the pivotal point where I started
my journey to comprehensive manhood.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Thank you, thank you. How about you, sir? How about you.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I'm still trying to recover from what my brother just
saying right here. Thank you for having me. Of course,
I like to start things off. I'm old school. I
like to be formed. Thank you for having me on
your stage and your platform. Thank you to Charlemagne man. Yes, brother,
Charlemagne the God for doing this. Thank you, you should
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do this like for real in real life, because you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Some of the ship you're doing your show.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Oh my God compromises the mental health. And then he'd like, well, hey,
I'm a compromise your mental health. Didn't put a band
aid on it and do a conference.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
We'll talk about that later.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I came in and had some fun because I got
enough crying videos on the internet. So every time I
see Charlemagne, I'm crying. I'm like this, mother, I'm so
happy you ain't on this stage right now. So to
be honest with you, my first and here's the thing,
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I think I'm really.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Proud of us. I want to be specific.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I'm sure there's a couple of white people out here,
but I want to be very specific and say that
I'm very proud of us as black culture for normalizing
the dialogue in and around I'm not okay, right, because
we have been for years walking, living, breathing, time bombs
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and the other thing that's very confusing about us. See,
can I talk to y'all because we've grown up? He
can I be okay?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
All right?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Because you know you know I'm crazy and I'm gonna
say exactly what I feel. See, when we in the hood,
we see a crackhead, right, and we know it's a crackhead, right,
if y'all know what I'm talking about, I don't want
like boogie niggas. So if y'all know what I'm talking about,
all right, When you see somebody that's strong out on something,
we know and re recognize them as being strung out
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on something, right, alcoholic drug head, Or when we see
somebody that's a prostitute, we's like, oh, that's a prostitute.
The problem with most of us is that we work
so hard at creating these false perceptions that we're actually
okay when we're not. And then social media has made
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it worse because you can actually cut and pace your relationship,
you can put a filter on it. Your nose ain't
that small, okay. So we have set ourselves up to
mask and we are being assisted in masking.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
The way we actually feel.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I often say, you would not be relationship goals if
you upload how often you and your girl is actually arguing,
but you're able to cut and paste out the fact
that y'all been sleeping in two different rooms for the
last three weeks. Y'all love each other, but you don't
like each other. You irritate the shit out of me
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every time you talk, cringing, and so that's the reality
of where we are. So what happens is we create
the lie, and we live the lie, and then we
also enjoy the fact that everybody believe it to be true,
but it's a lie the whole time. So for me,
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without me knowing anything about mental health awareness, I go
back to my first book. It's called how To Get
Out of Your Own Way, and it's a hit in
all of the prisons. Whatever I shit got rave reviews
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on Amazon too, But how.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
To Get out of your Own Way.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
At first it was supposed to be called get Out
of your Own Way, and then I realized that how
To is an invite because if you're in your own
way and you don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That you're on your own way, then you'll see it.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Go get out of your own way, and that's a
comment and be like, Okay, well I'm not in my
own way, so I'm not gonna read it. How too,
is an invite for you to be a part of
the dialogue and the conversation. And it's raw, it's uncomfortable,
it's unfiltered.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I go into everything.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Childhood traumas, alcoholism, you know, mental emotional, psychological, spirit abuse,
physical abuse, everything that I've seen and was exposed to
in South central LA. I went all the way. And
that's been me this entire time. I forgot what year
came out. It's at least thirteen years ago. But before
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we normalize the dialogue around mental health, I was already
on that journey to be transparent because.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I'm like, it's cool to get screamed for. It's cool
to be looked at.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Its handsome and sexy and songs and movie star and muscles.
That's all great, But I really want you all to
know that I'm a real guy and that I really
feel things and I carry things, and I want you
to look up to me for those reasons outside of
the reasons of me having talent and all of the
other things that I just mentioned. So that's where my
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mental health journey started from, how to get out of
your own way.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I love that. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So yeah, yeah, please please, So Jason, could you t
talk a little bit about I heard a bunch of
things in what both you and Tyree said, and one
thing that sticks out to me as a black person
is that I feel like there's so much pressure. There
are different kinds of pressure, I think for men and women.
There are different pressures for people. Any marginalized identity you
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add on top of being black, it's more stress for you, right,
And so I wonder if you could talk a little
bit about your book Cry Like a Man, and if
there's anything in there that both you and Tyrese could
speak to related to what are those pressures that are
on men, Tyreese, you spoke to some of them that
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prevent them from being able to express and be in
touch with those emotions that they carry with them all
the time.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
That's a great question. I've been working with boys specifically
since say two thousand and five through the cave of
a Dubum Transformational Training Academy, and it's the programming starts
young with boys. We tell them big boys don't cry,
and then when they get older, no pain, no gain.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
That's not a universal principle.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
If my brother Tyrese and I ever owned an NFL
team and our star quarterback injured his achilles, we wouldn't
tell him no pain, no gain and go back out there.
But for me, and we've adopted these misleading mantras as
universal truths. Do everything in moderation is another one. We
say when it takes less than an ounce of cyanide
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to kill you. And so we've been conditioned to believe
that where our worth is in what we do and
not who we are. And so you wonder why your
teenage son is apathetic and just disengage.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
You've taught him his entire life.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Not to express his emotions, and now you have no
idea that he's one day away from committing suicide, and
so cry like a man. My journey started with my
grandfather's lynching in nineteen thirty six, and I saw directly
the effect, the negative effect.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
That has on the brain when you can't release it.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
My mother and her siblings it was think as five siblings,
All of them except two developed dementia. They could never
let go of the trauma. And then if I fast
forward passed there. My mother's first marriage was very abusive.
Her husband used to slap my brothers with the flat
size of butcher knives, and then in nineteen seventy three
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she married my father in sixty eight. In nineteen seventy three,
my first brother got murdered, so my mother had to
deal with that, and then in nineteen ninety three, my
second brother gets murdered. So I saw my mother trying
to stay strong, as we're conditioned to believe we can
be as black people, that we have to be perpetually
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strong and don't talk to no one, you can deal
with it yourself. As a result of that mentality, my
mother broke down mentally and had to be admitted to
a psych ward.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I share all that.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
To say is that growing up as young black boys
in our community, the gold standard when I came up
and what I call a glory, the golden area of
hip hop, the gold standard was a hypermasculine black male.
You couldn't hold your girl's hand, not in my city
without the threat to getting beat down. So to survive
in that community or that environment, we had to become hard.
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We had to become callous and as a result of that,
we die. I believe today, because we're an emotionally incarcerated
group of men, we are higher risk of suicide, We
commit the most homicides, and yet we still wear it
as a badge of honor to suffer in silence. And
so the subtitle to Cry like a Man is fighting
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for freedom from emotional incarceration and emotional incarceration. It appears
to be a safe place, but it's a self imposed imprisonment,
mental imprisonment where a man isolates his heart from the world,
and we've been conditioned that way from childhood even now
as men. Even Drake says in one of his songs,
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I pop bottles because I bottle my emotions, and we'll
be in the club like this, but we don't realize
what that man just said. And as a result of
repressing our emotions, we increase our chances of developing cancer
by seventy percent, and then high risk behave as far
as dying from premature dying of a premature death by
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thirty percent. And as a result of our boys being
emotion incarcerated, I work with them. They can't express their fears.
They're taught to be fearless when no, man, I know
in here is fearless. If you don't have fear, you
can't be courage courageous, and if you have children, that's
like your heart walking outside your body. And I don't
know one good father here who doesn't fear anything happening
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to their children.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So as a result, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Lastly, as a result, I teach young boys it's okay
to feel fear, but never succumb to it. So when
you give a boy, and especially a man like me
and Brother Tyree's age, who have broken boys still inside
of us to need more healing, when you allow us
to freedom to feel, we stop hiding behind this facade,
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as Brother Tyree said, and we can break down all
of those barriers and actually stop intergenerational trauma and start
intergenerational healing.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Ay man, oh my god, thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Do you want to add anything to it?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I hear you can. I say something.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
First and foremost, you know, I got love for you
man and you This brother reached out to me when
cry like a man came out and he, without me asking,
promoted it on the social media. Twenty eighteen, something happened
to my.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Brother recognize talent This man got talent.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So something happened to me, my brother, where he courageously
had a moment in front of the world, where he
cried and shared his pain. And what's it's extremely hypocritical
that in one voice we complain about a narrative that
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isn't even accurate that black men aren't there for their children,
because the CDC reported that black fathers are more active
than any other ethnicity with their children. But the fact
that there's a man, a black man, on social media
of his stature, having a breakdown crying, not over a
Super Bowl trophy, not over an NBA championship, not over
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none of that, but the fact that he can't spend
time with his daughter, and the society at large mocks him.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And so I'm real big on like talking. That's that's
faith and action works.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
So I would like to ask everyone in here, because
I'm sure all of us have been guilty of even
not even condemning those who may have even laughed at
that moment of transparency that my brother had. And so
I'm real big on resolving trauma because, like he said,
he is human.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I've talked to him.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I won't share some of the things he's told me
but we have to understand that hurts us. I was
talking to men all out here today angry because they
can't be with their kids and everything else going on.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I said, brother, you're not angry, You're hurt.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
You're sad, you're depressed, you're frustrated, you're disheartened.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Anger is a surface emotion. We express that easily.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
But when I teach boys to dig deep and men
to dig deep and express what I call the hypersentary
emotions before the emotional earthquake happens.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So if everyone with me, I want to say it together.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Brother, I'm sorry for not even standing up for you
in that moment as a black man, seeing you vulnerable. Honestly,
I should have dog checked anybody I saw who tried
to talk about you or humiliate you, because I've been
doing youth work since two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And to see a father cry with.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Your stature, your popularity and just want to release it,
and your grief was to be with your daughter because
you couldn't be, I just want to publicly commend you for.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
That and really give it up a tybree straight up.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
You do this other just.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Take it in, take it in. It's for youth.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
So Charlemagne Johnna set me up to cry again. This
is crazy, This is crazy. I should have stayed at home. Man,
I got enough crying videos out here.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Charloa Mane. But real talk, brother, you know I receive it.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
And because this clock, this clock is stressing me out
right here. Whoever's running this clock, I think y'all got
this wrong. There's no way y'all can have us two
of us three up here, talkative communicators, and this clock
says eleven minutes and twenty.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So this is wrong.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Somebody's got to go ahead and rewind this thing. Man,
come on up here, man to fix this clock. Man,
this is this is not right. Yeah, I'm serious, man,
I got some stuff to say.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
My god, my god, my god. So yeah, yeah, I'm ballheaded. Ballheaded.
That happened. This brother has been having my beard now
for like twelve years. It's crazy. I'm waiting on them
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to send it back.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
So I want you to know that I receive the
love that you just gave my brother, from father to father.
That means the world to me that you would pour
into me and validate me. You've done this for me privately,
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outside of doing it on the stage in front of
the audience, and I want you to know how much
it means to me, because.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
How do you inspire the uninspired? How do you motivate
the unmotivated?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You have to use your voice, your stage, and your
platform to recognize that what they're doing is not motivated
by money. It is a selfless act to give of
your time, your energy and be fully present, especially with
a bunch of boys that aren't your own, but you
make them your own by saying, whether you have a
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father or not, a big brother or not, I'm going
to be all of these things and try my best
to be used to keep you motivated and encouraged, because
we all get robbed of reaching our full potential when
we don't have anybody standing in front of us to
say keep going. Now, I want to speak to I
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want to pivot really quick because I could use these
thirteen that the clock ain't stop chat I'm concerned. I
want to use these thirteen minutes to try my best
to encourage somebody. And I want you all to really
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receive what I'm about to say, because I came here
with a message. If I had to ask y'all anybody
in here, I don't want nobody to google it, look
it up. By just one person in here, just do
me a favor by a show of hands, Can you
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tell me what was doctor Martin Luther King Junior's net
worth when he was assassinated on the balcony, one person
in here, if you can raise your hand, don't play
with me, little man. This is not Instagram. We're not
here to win the propularity contest.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Can anybody raise their hand and say to me, this
is what doctor Martin Luther King's net worth was when
he was assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Can anybody tell me the size of his rims on
his car? Can anybody tell me what type of credit
card he had in his wallet?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Anything? How about the square footage of his house? Okay?
The point I'm making is none of that shit matters. Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
So the calculated distraction that I want to speak to
is we are all out here focused on the wrong shit.
Y'all spent more time getting dressed this morning than reading
the Bible, reading a book, or trying to come up
with a plan that can help change the community that
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you complaining about every single day. The laws are the
laws because they know how to get together and change
everything about what they have a problem with. They will
buy up all this gentrification that is not a random concept,
that's actually happening. And the gentrification is happening where we
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as black and brown culture lay our heads, but they
come up with a plan and they figure out how
to push us out, and we're just bitching and moaning
and complaining the whole time while it's happening right in
front of us.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So I really want you all to.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Understand that it does not take a thousand people to
change anything. It just takes one person to actually make
a commitment to change their neighborhood or their community, and
then things changed. The reason I'm pointing out doctor King.
I know he was a civil rights leader at everything
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that we know about him, but in my mind, doctor
King was the unexpected hero. This was a man that
went to Montgomery, Alabama because he was a pastor at
Ebenezer in Atlanta. But his father, doctor Martin Luther King,
sorry Martin Luther King's senior, was the senior pastor at
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Ebenezer in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Doctor King wanted his own church.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
The first time he became a senior pastor was in Montgomery, Alabama.
Then there was a black woman that says to the
white man, my feet is hurt and I'm not going
to the back of the bus. So he got thrusted
into an unexpected civil rights journey. Did the boys bus boycott,
and then everything happened. Some of y'all do well on Instagram,
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speaking up and speaking out about things that matter, but
you're not doing anything in real life. You all in
the comments, you writing your captions, you vocal and outspoken,
you in your Malcolm X bag on Instagram, but you
ain't doing shit other than posting. So the reason that
I am as vocal and outspoken about the family law
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court system because I'm going to Congress. See, I am
currently assembling not just fathers, mothers as well, because a
lot of women in this audience. You make way more
money than your man, and he at the house playing
video games and delivering hot penis, and as soon as
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y'all break up, he gonna try and come get half
of your shit.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Just the way I'm dealing with it.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So y'all gotta understand that the reality of what happens
in that courtroom when you show up and you're dealing
with a divorce, alimony, child support payments and all the above.
I'm not just on Instagram going at my exes. I'm
going at the family law court system. I've tried to
get the judge thrown off the bench twice. So these
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are not tears in vain. I'm in motion. What do
you have a problem with? What do you have a
problem with? I'm asking what do you have a problem with?
If you don't have a problem, shut up. But if
you actually have a problem with four million black men
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being in jail and every time you are an alpha
male you get pinged with mask of toxic masculinity because
they're trying to normalize gay Do you have a problem
they're telling women what to do with their bodies? Do
you have a problem. I'm not here to tell you
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to vote Republican or Democrat. That ain't my job. I'm
going for Kamala, Kamala. I did that on purpose, don't don't.
I did that on purpose. Anyway, y'all know what I'm
talking about. I did that on purpose. Shut up, Kamala.
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That's right, that's right, that's right, Get it right, get
it right. Uh So, I'm just saying, like we have
a problem, But how much of a problem do you
have see this brother right here had a problem with
what's happening with black boys, and he went above and beyond,
and he does it every single day, whether the cameras
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is rolling or not.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
What do you have a problem with?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Nothing changes because you at home complaining and sitting on
your hands.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It only changes when you get in motion.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Come on, y'all, doctor Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Medgar
Evers like, we can keep going.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
The movement only happens with movement. What are we doing?
It does not take a thousand people.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
If only one person in this room decides, you know what, man,
I do have a problem with?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It changes everything. Voter suppression.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
What are you gonna do about the fact that they
manipulating all these machines and people are out here working
hard to create new crips, new bloods, new gangsters, new murderers.
Niggas know how to load guns faster than nigga ever,
learn math and TAC takeaway subtraction. Do you have a
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problem or are you just gonna be like man? They
over there while in and then everything stays the same.
So I'm just letting y'all know. And I don't need
nobody to encourage me to do this. I live this
family law court system shit every day. I'm at fifteen
million dollars fighting to see my daughters. Fifteen that's legal fees.
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That's movies, albums, and projects and concerts that have my
name on it that went away because I woke up
to the news that I was arrested.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Or whatever I'm being accused of.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
You think Disney wants to hire me after I get
accused of some shit that I didn't do. That's money
that had my name on it that went away. And
then I gotta go hire lawyers to protect me, and
then they trying to hit me over the head for
legal fees to protect her while she's accusing me of
some shit. And I'm not going at women. I'm going
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at lyon women. That's so we clear. For every baby
mom in the audience who would never take that man
to court, raise your hand. See it's that. Let me
say some me. Oh God, let me sit down. It
was only like twelve hands up in there. God damn
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they trying to get the bag.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
In New York. Huh.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I said, raise your hand, raise your hand part to
put my doctor king would raise your hand if you
never take your man to court it with seven of
y'all live in.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
There, thank pretty much, premuch. So we're gonna close out.
Yet the clock is wrong, but we beg They didn't
fix this clock yet, but I.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Will before I give you, two gentlemen, the last word.
The whole point was really for you all to talk
and need to just facilitate. One thing I'll say, and
then I ask you to give us your closing thoughts,
anything you want to leave the audience with. And the
one thing I will say is what's really or you said,
stand up when you believe in something. One thing that's
really important to me is as black people, we all
have to rise together.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
And let me say what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That means those of us who are black from any
part of the diaspora. We had a sister of here
today say she was Caribbean. That includes them. We have
African immigrant brothers and sisters, that includes them. We have
those of us who identify as African American from the.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Legacy of enslavement.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That includes us. And as my brother said, it includes
all of us as women along with our brothers, black men,
our kings and princes, and it includes folks with other
marginalized identities, Black queer folks as well, black people with
disabilities as well.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's all of us.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
So if we don't all rise, what's the point. So
with that, what I just want to leave us with?
You know, I don't want to be a talking Everybody
who knows me knows I love to talk with these
two here. That's not my role today. My role is
just facilitation. So I will ask you to, gentlemen, in
these closing the clock is wrong two minutes and forty
five seconds? What would you like today? What would you
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like to leave the audience with any parting words? And
I didn't get to ask my question, but I'm just
gonna put it in something I want you all to
take with you. Do we as black people, men, women
and other do we know how to receive love? I
just want you to hold on to that. We didn't
get to that today. But you're closing words, gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Since that's really a negative at the clock, your I
guess question about do we really love ourselves? If I'm
just recalling every conversation I had today with all the
men who came up to me, and I would have
to say that's the common theme.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
We're so quick to.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Basically surrender the blessings that we have over one moment,
and it's all centered around because we don't see the
real value in.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Who we are.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
For me to break free from emotional incarceration and have
the marriage that I have, the life that I have,
I don't work for any of this. I work from
my home. Everything that I have. My affirmation comes from
my wife, my daughter, and my son. But none of
that and of course the most high, but none of
that could have happened if I didn't start loving myself.
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My brothers, I'm gonna be transparent with you. The reason
it's hard for you to say vulnerable or vulnerability is
because the word itself doesn't really convey what we're asking
of what we need to do. If I had an
AK forty seven and I was shooting a gun in here,
the news would say he shot his gun at vulnerable citizens,
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people who are endangered of getting hurt or wounded or killed.
We're trying to tell you to have emotional openness, to
be transparent with your emotions, what you're dealing with. My
wife would touch me, brothers, and I would cringe because
I didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Why she was caressing me. How do you love me
that you rubbing my scalp?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
And many of us if we real with ourselves that
superman Kate we try to wear every day is strangling
the life out of us.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I got a call this morning.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
From a successful person that you know, his wife is
considering to leave and he cannot convey and release the
childhood trauma to her so that she can understand at
least why he cannot communicate. He's been conditioned by his
trauma and abuse to not love himself. So I'm telling
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you the way to break free and start this journey
to healing is the first stop seeking for love everywhere
else and look in the mirror, resolve it there. And
as Brother Tyrese passionately conveyed, I'm just one person, God says,
I don't need an army. I need one boy, one stone,
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one sling to take down the giant I got before you,
But I couldn't do it until I was real with
myself and got the healing. More resources than ever are
being poured into our communities. Why isn't it working? Seeds
are falling on unfertile ground. The ground needs to be
broken up the heartness of our heart, what our ancestors
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had to deal with They had to stay and fight
or fly.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Like y'all, we don't. We're free to find healing.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
My father probably would have lived the longer life if
he could have been here.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Love for yourself.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
It sounds simple, but it's the greatest thing you could do,
because when I started loving myself, I genuinely started loving
my wife.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I started treating my daughter the way I longed to
be treated as a son.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I started communicating with my son instead of always having
to resort to yelling, calmly, just saying, son, why did
you do that?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
What caused you to think that way? That's how my
son grew.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
And then, lastly, because I'm healed, I can heal the
thousands of boys that I touch every day, and so
I just close with that.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Crying like a man is more than shedding tears.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Just so you'll know, tears really stress hormones that get
excreted from your body when you cry. That's why you
typically feel better when you cry, all right, But it's
not just about that. It's about releasing the trauma and
emotional pain that's been stored in your heart for years.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Release it and be free.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Stop allowing your trauma to time travel so that you
can fully live in the present period.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Do you have anything?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Y'all gotta give some more love than my brother for
that one right there.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
My god, it's like when this man starts talking. Man,
I start traveling somewhere in my head. I've I left
the room and then I came back. But I'm gonna
do this. Oh my god, set us up, charlat Man,
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how you gonna have us to come up here and
do this and then put a clock on us?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Like that thing is aggressive?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Every time we're not looking at it, somebody is speeding
it up too.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Man.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Uh man, I'm taking this home. Well, I'm gonna I'm
gonna wrap it up by saying I know I'm supposed
to encourage y'all, say something motivational, inspirational, but I'm gonna
close this out by telling y'all what I'm here to
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do because I don't do charity. I believe in giving back,
not just financially, with my time my energy. When y'all
see me writing them long captions on Instagram, I don't
have people at my house. I like to put my
thoughts on my feelings out there in the world, hoping
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that somebody out there to see it, be able to
relate to it. But I'm gonna tell y'all what I'm
here to do. I'm here to change things. I'm here
to normalize the dialogue that black man cry. We are
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vulnerable when when an abortion happens or a miscarriage happens,
you skip over us. I've never had a miscarriage or
an abortion, obviously in my house or my family or
my marriage. That's not something I've ever experienced. But I've
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known plenty of men who have experienced it. I came
here with one today, a still born he did not
want to live anymore after experiencing it. He's the best
father of two supermodel daughters. And he's my brother, my
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capricorn brother. He's a Muslim man, strong alpha, everything that
we represent. But at what point did something happens so
bad where what you're feeling and carrying gets overlooked because
everyone normally gravitates towards the woman and what she needs.
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Means as if we're not feeling that exact thing, we
may be out of jail. But have you asked the question,
what has happened to you mentally, emotionally, psychologically from your
experience in being incarcerated. You may be out, but are
you still carrying the things that affected you from living
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in constant fear every single day.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You may not be in the foster care system anymore,
But what did you see?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
What did you hear? What did you experience? Does your
molestation matter as a man? How many more Catholic priests
are they going to announce that molested boys? And just
maybe all of these Catholic priests would be in jail
if they were all women that these Catholic priests were molesting. See,
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I am unafraid and unapologetic about being vulnerable, honest, vokes
and outspoken.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
That's who I am.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
That's what it's been because I realize quickly I may
not ever get to a level of elon musk money.
I live in something nice, I drive something nice, but
I've never desired. I love you because of your car.
I want you to love the person that's in the
car and then give a compliment to the car after
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that's a good brother in there. It's all in the
way it lands for you. So I'm gonna tell y'all
I am a multi billionaire. Some of y'all ain't happy
for me. I am a multi billionaire. My life in
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my career started with a thirty second commercial. I am
the walking, living, breathing manifestation of God's favor. Right here,
find somebody else who started their career with a thirty
second commercial that turned into thirty years. You may laugh,
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you may make a mockery. I might be posting some
silly shit. I laugh at me too, But you cannot
question God's favor because if it's about talent, why hasn't
everybody else who did a thirty second commercial have that
to go and turn into ten billion in box office
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sell All these records go by one name, just one,
just one. Insecure people will look at this as bragg
and inflexing. I'm not here to tell y'all my Wikipedia page.
I'm telling y'all that I'm different front and I came
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here to change things. I came here to normalize things
that ain't normal. I came here to change things, and
I'm not done. What did you come here to? Do
you do understand that this place is gonna stay the
same unless you change it. Did y'all hear that I
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have a problem with finish your sentence? Do you have
a problem with it? Or are you willing to do
whatever it takes to change it. I came here to
change things. I will be opening a movie studio that
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will have hotels, restaurants, retail, car dealerships, all the above.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I'm gonna do it, and one of you niggas gonna
give me the money to do it too.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
I have a problem with the things that I have
a problem with. These are the things that keep me
up at night. And I want to close this out
with this man. Please God, thank you for everything.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
God.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
I do not take these stages and these platforms for granted,
you could have anybody on this stage. Charlemagne knows everybody
could have had anybody here. So somebody, I hope and
I pray that we have been able to say something
that can change a life, just one.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
It doesn't have to be the whole room.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Some of y'all are so used to going to church
and screaming Hallelujah, and you go right back to doing
the same shit. When I am in the presence of
somebody that drops something on me that falls directly into
my soul, everything about that moment for me changes.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Listen, there is nobody in this.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Room that can purchase me into feeling differently because my
soul is.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Not for sale.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
As a matter of fact, most people with money irritate
the shit out of me. That's why I don't hang
around with celebrities. I connect to and relate to regular folks. Now,
with that being said, I'm gonna close it out with this, y'all.
I want to tell y'all something about the fire in
my belly. I want to be specific about the fire
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in my belly. They always say hell is hot, and
they turn the fire and the desire into a negative.
I wake up every single day and literally what keeps
me up at night or the dreams and the visions
I tell people I dream with my eyes open. I
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want to become the things I see. When somebody says
something or expose me to something, then I'm like, man.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (46:01):
I never dreamt that I was able to see it,
hear it, or be exposed to it after I woke up,
or I shook a hand and somebody made me aware
of something that was going on. The Fire and desire
in your stomach is a sign and an indication that
that's something that you're supposed to do. The things that
keep you up at night. It could be the way
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the things is happening in the community, with the prisons
and the jail and the excessive force and the murder
and all of the things that stress you out. Those
are the things that God continue to show you so
that you can take the initiative to change things. A
movement doesn't happen without movement. What do you have a
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problem with? What do you want? And if you decide
to not do it, you're gonna sit back and you're
gonna watch me do it. Because I'm not waiting on
none of y'all because I understand the assignment and that
nothing changes unless you change it.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
So I'm gonna ask y'all to do me a favor.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Don't just go to another conference. Don't be screaming and yelling,
and we're not about to pass out no basket.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
For no offering.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Only thing you need to know is that you could
have been anywhere in any city, state, in country, and
you came here because someone that you're in a relationship with.
Every time you mentioned that clothing idea hair makeup, the
hair salon, any real estate tech, any time you mention
anything to this person, This negative ass dream killer is
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shooting down your ideas and you laying up in bed
with the venom right there, pull the covers back.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
That's a snake.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
There is nobody I'm ever gonna date that's gonna stop
me from the things that keep me up at night.
So you look at your grab your stomach sometime when
you're in the mirror, and ask.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
God, what is in my stomach?
Speaker 4 (48:03):
That's that's that's burning, that's keeping me up at night,
that I truly desire, that's what we want. And if
you don't get it done, watch me I will because
I don't feel bad for nobody.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Either you're gonna get it done or it won't be done.
But don't get mad at niggas is out here getting
it done. God bless you. Thank you. Can we make
sure hilarious as all right?
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, he's gonna get a picture of all of us.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
I want to thank y'all for coming out to day.
I want to thank y'all for coming out today. We'll
be here next year. I'm glad we could create a
safe space for Tyrese to get all that off his chest.
Thank you for coming to Really do appreciate y'all, and
you know this is a day of mental health, education
and healing and everything that everybody's been saying on your
stage is true. With Tyree said, it's very true. We
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hope that you came out here today and you feel
encouraged to either continue on your healing journey or to
get started on your healing journey. And I really want
to stay. From the bottom of my heart, thank you
all for coming out today, and we'll see you all
again next year at the fifth annul Mental Health ex Book. Hey, hello,
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yo yo, I just want to thank iHeartRadio one time,
and I gotta thank this queen right here, Dr Alfie
breelaying Noble. None of this happens without her, I mean
absolutely nothing, So thank you, doctor Alfie.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Thank you. Hello, Hello, Hey, hey, Charltmagne.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
I didn't know you was just short, bro, because you're
always behind the table sitting down on the breakfast club.
This is crazy. I'm actually taller than him. Did y'all
have fun today? God bless y'all. Y'all know what to
do right, y'all know what to do right?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
All right,
How y'all doing.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, I'm gonna talk fast because you ain't here to
see me. You here to see these two gentlemen I'm
about to bring out. So let me just let me
just say, it's an honor to have you here again
on behalf of Charlemagne and God I Heeart Radio, the
Mental Health Alliance, and my Nonproperty a Coma project, all
our sponsors. We're so happy to have you. I'm just
gonna tell you what's on my heart. I feel like
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this next thirty minutes is gonna be like some healing's
gonna happen. And so let me bring out my first guest,
this brother. You know him, you love him. He has
three books. After this session because he cares about the
people so much, he had to cut his book signing
session short. So he's going to be back out there
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for a little bit of time to sign his book.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The books that you all know are Battle Cry and
the book we're going to talk a little bit about today,
Cry Like a Man. There's another book coming out in January.
The Man the Moment demands this brother. Every time I
watch him, I cry. We met about I don't know
ten years ago at an event for Sam said the
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Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration, and he was fascinating.
Then he's captivating now, so please help me. Welcome mister
Jason Wilson. All right, I can't say enough words about
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this other brother. I will say, I'm gen X. I'
gonna date myself. I hope you don't get mad at me.
I remember him from Cold Cold commercial. That's how I
got introduced him. So where my gen X is at?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Make some noise? That's right, yeah, gen X.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
All right, So this brother, what can I say? My
family is a huge transform Oh there, ain't go but
that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
There, it is there, It is all right, thank you
for me.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Appreciate you. So he was like, I ain't doing all.
Let I'm just gonna come out. I'm not mad, all right,
let me start this conversation.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, I didn't want to hear my wikip pitia page.
It's all good, so let me just start. Hell.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So, I'm just gonna start by asking each of you, gentlemen,
what was it, if there's any one thing that encouraged
you to start having a conversation about black men and
their mental health.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
For me, it was I think when I was about
to lose my marriage. My wife and I remember vividly,
were in a heated argument in the kitchen and she
simply I said, I wish I could spend more time
with our son Jason, and she had said that she
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wished I had that same desire to spend time with her,
and she didn't say it in a way that was combative,
but I took it as something else I wasn't doing right,
And in that moment, before I knew it, I hit
the refrigerator and started yelling at the top of my
lungs at the woman that I'm supposed to protect and love,
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and right before my eyes I saw her spirit like
just doing do down. And at that moment the most
I said, you need some work. You haven't released all
that you've been through and as a result, it's affecting
where you are. And so at that moment, because we
were about to get separated, and I chose to say,
you know what, I'm going to deal with what's been
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going on inside of me so that I can heal.
And so that was the pivotal point where I started
my journey to comprehensive manhood.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Thank you, thank you. How about you, sir? How about you.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I'm still trying to recover from what my brother just
saying right here. Thank you for having me. Of course,
I like to start things off. I'm old school. I
like to be formed. Thank you for having me on
your stage and your platform. Thank you to Charlemagne man. Yes, brother,
Charlemagne the God for doing this. Thank you, you should
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do this like for real in real life, because you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Some of the ship you're doing your show.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Oh my God compromises the mental health. And then he'd like, well, hey,
I'm a compromise your mental health. Didn't put a band
aid on it and do a conference.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
We'll talk about that later.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I came in and had some fun because I got
enough crying videos on the internet. So every time I
see Charlemagne, I'm crying. I'm like this, mother, I'm so
happy you ain't on this stage right now. So to
be honest with you, my first and here's the thing,
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I think I'm really.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Proud of us. I want to be specific.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I'm sure there's a couple of white people out here,
but I want to be very specific and say that
I'm very proud of us as black culture for normalizing
the dialogue in and around I'm not okay, right, because
we have been for years walking, living, breathing, time bombs
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and the other thing that's very confusing about us. See,
can I talk to y'all because we've grown up? He
can I be okay?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
All right?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Because you know you know I'm crazy and I'm gonna
say exactly what I feel. See, when we in the hood,
we see a crackhead, right, and we know it's a crackhead, right,
if y'all know what I'm talking about, I don't want
like boogie niggas. So if y'all know what I'm talking about,
all right, When you see somebody that's strong out on something,
we know and re recognize them as being strung out
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on something, right, alcoholic drug head, Or when we see
somebody that's a prostitute, we's like, oh, that's a prostitute.
The problem with most of us is that we work
so hard at creating these false perceptions that we're actually
okay when we're not. And then social media has made
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it worse because you can actually cut and pace your relationship,
you can put a filter on it. Your nose ain't
that small, okay. So we have set ourselves up to
mask and we are being assisted in masking.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
The way we actually feel.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I often say, you would not be relationship goals if
you upload how often you and your girl is actually arguing,
but you're able to cut and paste out the fact
that y'all been sleeping in two different rooms for the
last three weeks. Y'all love each other, but you don't
like each other. You irritate the shit out of me
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every time you talk, cringing, and so that's the reality
of where we are. So what happens is we create
the lie, and we live the lie, and then we
also enjoy the fact that everybody believe it to be true,
but it's a lie the whole time. So for me,
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without me knowing anything about mental health awareness, I go
back to my first book. It's called how To Get
Out of Your Own Way, and it's a hit in
all of the prisons. Whatever I shit got rave reviews
(08:18):
on Amazon too, But how.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
To Get out of your Own Way.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
At first it was supposed to be called get Out
of your Own Way, and then I realized that how
To is an invite because if you're in your own
way and you don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That you're on your own way, then you'll see it.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Go get out of your own way, and that's a
comment and be like, Okay, well I'm not in my
own way, so I'm not gonna read it. How too,
is an invite for you to be a part of
the dialogue and the conversation. And it's raw, it's uncomfortable,
it's unfiltered.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I go into everything.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Childhood traumas, alcoholism, you know, mental emotional, psychological, spirit abuse,
physical abuse, everything that I've seen and was exposed to
in South central LA. I went all the way. And
that's been me this entire time. I forgot what year
came out. It's at least thirteen years ago. But before
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we normalize the dialogue around mental health, I was already
on that journey to be transparent because.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I'm like, it's cool to get screamed for. It's cool
to be looked at.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Its handsome and sexy and songs and movie star and muscles.
That's all great, But I really want you all to
know that I'm a real guy and that I really
feel things and I carry things, and I want you
to look up to me for those reasons outside of
the reasons of me having talent and all of the
other things that I just mentioned. So that's where my
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mental health journey started from, how to get out of
your own way.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I love that. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So yeah, yeah, please please, So Jason, could you t
talk a little bit about I heard a bunch of
things in what both you and Tyree said, and one
thing that sticks out to me as a black person
is that I feel like there's so much pressure. There
are different kinds of pressure, I think for men and women.
There are different pressures for people. Any marginalized identity you
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add on top of being black, it's more stress for you, right,
And so I wonder if you could talk a little
bit about your book Cry Like a Man, and if
there's anything in there that both you and Tyrese could
speak to related to what are those pressures that are
on men, Tyreese, you spoke to some of them that
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prevent them from being able to express and be in
touch with those emotions that they carry with them all
the time.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
That's a great question. I've been working with boys specifically
since say two thousand and five through the cave of
a Dubum Transformational Training Academy, and it's the programming starts
young with boys. We tell them big boys don't cry,
and then when they get older, no pain, no gain.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
That's not a universal principle.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
If my brother Tyrese and I ever owned an NFL
team and our star quarterback injured his achilles, we wouldn't
tell him no pain, no gain and go back out there.
But for me, and we've adopted these misleading mantras as
universal truths. Do everything in moderation is another one. We
say when it takes less than an ounce of cyanide
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to kill you. And so we've been conditioned to believe
that where our worth is in what we do and
not who we are. And so you wonder why your
teenage son is apathetic and just disengage.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
You've taught him his entire life.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Not to express his emotions, and now you have no
idea that he's one day away from committing suicide, and
so cry like a man. My journey started with my
grandfather's lynching in nineteen thirty six, and I saw directly
the effect, the negative effect.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
That has on the brain when you can't release it.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
My mother and her siblings it was think as five siblings,
All of them except two developed dementia. They could never
let go of the trauma. And then if I fast
forward passed there. My mother's first marriage was very abusive.
Her husband used to slap my brothers with the flat
size of butcher knives, and then in nineteen seventy three
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she married my father in sixty eight. In nineteen seventy three,
my first brother got murdered, so my mother had to
deal with that, and then in nineteen ninety three, my
second brother gets murdered. So I saw my mother trying
to stay strong, as we're conditioned to believe we can
be as black people, that we have to be perpetually
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strong and don't talk to no one, you can deal
with it yourself. As a result of that mentality, my
mother broke down mentally and had to be admitted to
a psych ward.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I share all that.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
To say is that growing up as young black boys
in our community, the gold standard when I came up
and what I call a glory, the golden area of
hip hop, the gold standard was a hypermasculine black male.
You couldn't hold your girl's hand, not in my city
without the threat to getting beat down. So to survive
in that community or that environment, we had to become hard.
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We had to become callous and as a result of that,
we die. I believe today, because we're an emotionally incarcerated
group of men, we are higher risk of suicide, We
commit the most homicides, and yet we still wear it
as a badge of honor to suffer in silence. And
so the subtitle to Cry like a Man is fighting
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for freedom from emotional incarceration and emotional incarceration. It appears
to be a safe place, but it's a self imposed imprisonment,
mental imprisonment where a man isolates his heart from the world,
and we've been conditioned that way from childhood even now
as men. Even Drake says in one of his songs,
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I pop bottles because I bottle my emotions, and we'll
be in the club like this, but we don't realize
what that man just said. And as a result of
repressing our emotions, we increase our chances of developing cancer
by seventy percent, and then high risk behave as far
as dying from premature dying of a premature death by
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thirty percent. And as a result of our boys being
emotion incarcerated, I work with them. They can't express their fears.
They're taught to be fearless when no, man, I know
in here is fearless. If you don't have fear, you
can't be courage courageous, and if you have children, that's
like your heart walking outside your body. And I don't
know one good father here who doesn't fear anything happening
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to their children.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So as a result, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Lastly, as a result, I teach young boys it's okay
to feel fear, but never succumb to it. So when
you give a boy, and especially a man like me
and Brother Tyree's age, who have broken boys still inside
of us to need more healing, when you allow us
to freedom to feel, we stop hiding behind this facade,
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as Brother Tyree said, and we can break down all
of those barriers and actually stop intergenerational trauma and start
intergenerational healing.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Ay man, oh my god, thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Do you want to add anything to it?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I hear you can. I say something.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
First and foremost, you know, I got love for you
man and you This brother reached out to me when
cry like a man came out and he, without me asking,
promoted it on the social media. Twenty eighteen, something happened
to my.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Brother recognize talent This man got talent.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So something happened to me, my brother, where he courageously
had a moment in front of the world, where he
cried and shared his pain. And what's it's extremely hypocritical
that in one voice we complain about a narrative that
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isn't even accurate that black men aren't there for their children,
because the CDC reported that black fathers are more active
than any other ethnicity with their children. But the fact
that there's a man, a black man, on social media
of his stature, having a breakdown crying, not over a
Super Bowl trophy, not over an NBA championship, not over
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none of that, but the fact that he can't spend
time with his daughter, and the society at large mocks him.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And so I'm real big on like talking. That's that's
faith and action works.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
So I would like to ask everyone in here, because
I'm sure all of us have been guilty of even
not even condemning those who may have even laughed at
that moment of transparency that my brother had. And so
I'm real big on resolving trauma because, like he said,
he is human.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I've talked to him.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I won't share some of the things he's told me
but we have to understand that hurts us. I was
talking to men all out here today angry because they
can't be with their kids and everything else going on.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I said, brother, you're not angry, You're hurt.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
You're sad, you're depressed, you're frustrated, you're disheartened.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Anger is a surface emotion. We express that easily.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
But when I teach boys to dig deep and men
to dig deep and express what I call the hypersentary
emotions before the emotional earthquake happens.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So if everyone with me, I want to say it together.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Brother, I'm sorry for not even standing up for you
in that moment as a black man, seeing you vulnerable. Honestly,
I should have dog checked anybody I saw who tried
to talk about you or humiliate you, because I've been
doing youth work since two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And to see a father cry with.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Your stature, your popularity and just want to release it,
and your grief was to be with your daughter because
you couldn't be, I just want to publicly commend you for.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
That and really give it up a tybree straight up.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
You do this other just.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Take it in, take it in. It's for youth.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
So Charlemagne Johnna set me up to cry again. This
is crazy, This is crazy. I should have stayed at home. Man,
I got enough crying videos out here.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Charloa Mane. But real talk, brother, you know I receive it.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
And because this clock, this clock is stressing me out
right here. Whoever's running this clock, I think y'all got
this wrong. There's no way y'all can have us two
of us three up here, talkative communicators, and this clock
says eleven minutes and twenty.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So this is wrong.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Somebody's got to go ahead and rewind this thing. Man,
come on up here, man to fix this clock. Man,
this is this is not right. Yeah, I'm serious, man,
I got some stuff to say.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
My god, my god, my god. So yeah, yeah, I'm ballheaded. Ballheaded.
That happened. This brother has been having my beard now
for like twelve years. It's crazy. I'm waiting on them
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to send it back.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
So I want you to know that I receive the
love that you just gave my brother, from father to father.
That means the world to me that you would pour
into me and validate me. You've done this for me privately,
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outside of doing it on the stage in front of
the audience, and I want you to know how much
it means to me, because.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
How do you inspire the uninspired? How do you motivate
the unmotivated?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You have to use your voice, your stage, and your
platform to recognize that what they're doing is not motivated
by money. It is a selfless act to give of
your time, your energy and be fully present, especially with
a bunch of boys that aren't your own, but you
make them your own by saying, whether you have a
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father or not, a big brother or not, I'm going
to be all of these things and try my best
to be used to keep you motivated and encouraged, because
we all get robbed of reaching our full potential when
we don't have anybody standing in front of us to
say keep going. Now, I want to speak to I
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want to pivot really quick because I could use these
thirteen that the clock ain't stop chat I'm concerned. I
want to use these thirteen minutes to try my best
to encourage somebody. And I want you all to really
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receive what I'm about to say, because I came here
with a message. If I had to ask y'all anybody
in here, I don't want nobody to google it, look
it up. By just one person in here, just do
me a favor by a show of hands, Can you
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tell me what was doctor Martin Luther King Junior's net
worth when he was assassinated on the balcony, one person
in here, if you can raise your hand, don't play
with me, little man. This is not Instagram. We're not
here to win the propularity contest.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Can anybody raise their hand and say to me, this
is what doctor Martin Luther King's net worth was when
he was assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Can anybody tell me the size of his rims on
his car? Can anybody tell me what type of credit
card he had in his wallet?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Anything? How about the square footage of his house? Okay?
The point I'm making is none of that shit matters. Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
So the calculated distraction that I want to speak to
is we are all out here focused on the wrong shit.
Y'all spent more time getting dressed this morning than reading
the Bible, reading a book, or trying to come up
with a plan that can help change the community that
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you complaining about every single day. The laws are the
laws because they know how to get together and change
everything about what they have a problem with. They will
buy up all this gentrification that is not a random concept,
that's actually happening. And the gentrification is happening where we
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as black and brown culture lay our heads, but they
come up with a plan and they figure out how
to push us out, and we're just bitching and moaning
and complaining the whole time while it's happening right in
front of us.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So I really want you all to.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Understand that it does not take a thousand people to
change anything. It just takes one person to actually make
a commitment to change their neighborhood or their community, and
then things changed. The reason I'm pointing out doctor King.
I know he was a civil rights leader at everything
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that we know about him, but in my mind, doctor
King was the unexpected hero. This was a man that
went to Montgomery, Alabama because he was a pastor at
Ebenezer in Atlanta. But his father, doctor Martin Luther King,
sorry Martin Luther King's senior, was the senior pastor at
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Ebenezer in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Doctor King wanted his own church.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
The first time he became a senior pastor was in Montgomery, Alabama.
Then there was a black woman that says to the
white man, my feet is hurt and I'm not going
to the back of the bus. So he got thrusted
into an unexpected civil rights journey. Did the boys bus boycott,
and then everything happened. Some of y'all do well on Instagram,
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speaking up and speaking out about things that matter, but
you're not doing anything in real life. You all in
the comments, you writing your captions, you vocal and outspoken,
you in your Malcolm X bag on Instagram, but you
ain't doing shit other than posting. So the reason that
I am as vocal and outspoken about the family law
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court system because I'm going to Congress. See, I am
currently assembling not just fathers, mothers as well, because a
lot of women in this audience. You make way more
money than your man, and he at the house playing
video games and delivering hot penis, and as soon as
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y'all break up, he gonna try and come get half
of your shit.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Just the way I'm dealing with it.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So y'all gotta understand that the reality of what happens
in that courtroom when you show up and you're dealing
with a divorce, alimony, child support payments and all the above.
I'm not just on Instagram going at my exes. I'm
going at the family law court system. I've tried to
get the judge thrown off the bench twice. So these
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are not tears in vain. I'm in motion. What do
you have a problem with? What do you have a
problem with? I'm asking what do you have a problem with?
If you don't have a problem, shut up. But if
you actually have a problem with four million black men
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being in jail and every time you are an alpha
male you get pinged with mask of toxic masculinity because
they're trying to normalize gay Do you have a problem
they're telling women what to do with their bodies? Do
you have a problem. I'm not here to tell you
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to vote Republican or Democrat. That ain't my job. I'm
going for Kamala, Kamala. I did that on purpose, don't don't.
I did that on purpose. Anyway, y'all know what I'm
talking about. I did that on purpose. Shut up, Kamala.
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That's right, that's right, that's right, Get it right, get
it right. Uh So, I'm just saying, like we have
a problem, But how much of a problem do you
have see this brother right here had a problem with
what's happening with black boys, and he went above and beyond,
and he does it every single day, whether the cameras
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is rolling or not.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
What do you have a problem with?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Nothing changes because you at home complaining and sitting on
your hands.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It only changes when you get in motion.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Come on, y'all, doctor Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Medgar
Evers like, we can keep going.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
The movement only happens with movement. What are we doing?
It does not take a thousand people.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
If only one person in this room decides, you know what, man,
I do have a problem with?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It changes everything. Voter suppression.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
What are you gonna do about the fact that they
manipulating all these machines and people are out here working
hard to create new crips, new bloods, new gangsters, new murderers.
Niggas know how to load guns faster than nigga ever,
learn math and TAC takeaway subtraction. Do you have a
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problem or are you just gonna be like man? They
over there while in and then everything stays the same.
So I'm just letting y'all know. And I don't need
nobody to encourage me to do this. I live this
family law court system shit every day. I'm at fifteen
million dollars fighting to see my daughters. Fifteen that's legal fees.
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That's movies, albums, and projects and concerts that have my
name on it that went away because I woke up
to the news that I was arrested.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Or whatever I'm being accused of.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
You think Disney wants to hire me after I get
accused of some shit that I didn't do. That's money
that had my name on it that went away. And
then I gotta go hire lawyers to protect me, and
then they trying to hit me over the head for
legal fees to protect her while she's accusing me of
some shit. And I'm not going at women. I'm going
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at lyon women. That's so we clear. For every baby
mom in the audience who would never take that man
to court, raise your hand. See it's that. Let me
say some me. Oh God, let me sit down. It
was only like twelve hands up in there. God damn
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they trying to get the bag.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
In New York. Huh.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I said, raise your hand, raise your hand part to
put my doctor king would raise your hand if you
never take your man to court it with seven of
y'all live in.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
There, thank pretty much, premuch. So we're gonna close out.
Yet the clock is wrong, but we beg They didn't
fix this clock yet, but I.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Will before I give you, two gentlemen, the last word.
The whole point was really for you all to talk
and need to just facilitate. One thing I'll say, and
then I ask you to give us your closing thoughts,
anything you want to leave the audience with. And the
one thing I will say is what's really or you said,
stand up when you believe in something. One thing that's
really important to me is as black people, we all
have to rise together.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
And let me say what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That means those of us who are black from any
part of the diaspora. We had a sister of here
today say she was Caribbean. That includes them. We have
African immigrant brothers and sisters, that includes them. We have
those of us who identify as African American from the.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Legacy of enslavement.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That includes us. And as my brother said, it includes
all of us as women along with our brothers, black men,
our kings and princes, and it includes folks with other
marginalized identities, Black queer folks as well, black people with
disabilities as well.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's all of us.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
So if we don't all rise, what's the point. So
with that, what I just want to leave us with?
You know, I don't want to be a talking Everybody
who knows me knows I love to talk with these
two here. That's not my role today. My role is
just facilitation. So I will ask you to, gentlemen, in
these closing the clock is wrong two minutes and forty
five seconds? What would you like today? What would you
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like to leave the audience with any parting words? And
I didn't get to ask my question, but I'm just
gonna put it in something I want you all to
take with you. Do we as black people, men, women
and other do we know how to receive love? I
just want you to hold on to that. We didn't
get to that today. But you're closing words, gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Since that's really a negative at the clock, your I
guess question about do we really love ourselves? If I'm
just recalling every conversation I had today with all the
men who came up to me, and I would have
to say that's the common theme.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
We're so quick to.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Basically surrender the blessings that we have over one moment,
and it's all centered around because we don't see the
real value in.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Who we are.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
For me to break free from emotional incarceration and have
the marriage that I have, the life that I have,
I don't work for any of this. I work from
my home. Everything that I have. My affirmation comes from
my wife, my daughter, and my son. But none of
that and of course the most high, but none of
that could have happened if I didn't start loving myself.
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My brothers, I'm gonna be transparent with you. The reason
it's hard for you to say vulnerable or vulnerability is
because the word itself doesn't really convey what we're asking
of what we need to do. If I had an
AK forty seven and I was shooting a gun in here,
the news would say he shot his gun at vulnerable citizens,
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people who are endangered of getting hurt or wounded or killed.
We're trying to tell you to have emotional openness, to
be transparent with your emotions, what you're dealing with. My
wife would touch me, brothers, and I would cringe because
I didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Why she was caressing me. How do you love me
that you rubbing my scalp?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
And many of us if we real with ourselves that
superman Kate we try to wear every day is strangling
the life out of us.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I got a call this morning.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
From a successful person that you know, his wife is
considering to leave and he cannot convey and release the
childhood trauma to her so that she can understand at
least why he cannot communicate. He's been conditioned by his
trauma and abuse to not love himself. So I'm telling
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you the way to break free and start this journey
to healing is the first stop seeking for love everywhere
else and look in the mirror, resolve it there. And
as Brother Tyrese passionately conveyed, I'm just one person, God says,
I don't need an army. I need one boy, one stone,
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one sling to take down the giant I got before you,
But I couldn't do it until I was real with
myself and got the healing. More resources than ever are
being poured into our communities. Why isn't it working? Seeds
are falling on unfertile ground. The ground needs to be
broken up the heartness of our heart, what our ancestors
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had to deal with They had to stay and fight
or fly.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Like y'all, we don't. We're free to find healing.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
My father probably would have lived the longer life if
he could have been here.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Love for yourself.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
It sounds simple, but it's the greatest thing you could do,
because when I started loving myself, I genuinely started loving
my wife.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I started treating my daughter the way I longed to
be treated as a son.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I started communicating with my son instead of always having
to resort to yelling, calmly, just saying, son, why did
you do that?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
What caused you to think that way? That's how my
son grew.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
And then, lastly, because I'm healed, I can heal the
thousands of boys that I touch every day, and so
I just close with that.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Crying like a man is more than shedding tears.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Just so you'll know, tears really stress hormones that get
excreted from your body when you cry. That's why you
typically feel better when you cry, all right, But it's
not just about that. It's about releasing the trauma and
emotional pain that's been stored in your heart for years.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Release it and be free.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Stop allowing your trauma to time travel so that you
can fully live in the present period.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Do you have anything?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Y'all gotta give some more love than my brother for
that one right there.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
My god, it's like when this man starts talking. Man,
I start traveling somewhere in my head. I've I left
the room and then I came back. But I'm gonna
do this. Oh my god, set us up, charlat Man,
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how you gonna have us to come up here and
do this and then put a clock on us?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Like that thing is aggressive?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Every time we're not looking at it, somebody is speeding
it up too.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Man.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Uh man, I'm taking this home. Well, I'm gonna I'm
gonna wrap it up by saying I know I'm supposed
to encourage y'all, say something motivational, inspirational, but I'm gonna
close this out by telling y'all what I'm here to
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do because I don't do charity. I believe in giving back,
not just financially, with my time my energy. When y'all
see me writing them long captions on Instagram, I don't
have people at my house. I like to put my
thoughts on my feelings out there in the world, hoping
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that somebody out there to see it, be able to
relate to it. But I'm gonna tell y'all what I'm
here to do. I'm here to change things. I'm here
to normalize the dialogue that black man cry. We are
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vulnerable when when an abortion happens or a miscarriage happens,
you skip over us. I've never had a miscarriage or
an abortion, obviously in my house or my family or
my marriage. That's not something I've ever experienced. But I've
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known plenty of men who have experienced it. I came
here with one today, a still born he did not
want to live anymore after experiencing it. He's the best
father of two supermodel daughters. And he's my brother, my
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capricorn brother. He's a Muslim man, strong alpha, everything that
we represent. But at what point did something happens so
bad where what you're feeling and carrying gets overlooked because
everyone normally gravitates towards the woman and what she needs.
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Means as if we're not feeling that exact thing, we
may be out of jail. But have you asked the question,
what has happened to you mentally, emotionally, psychologically from your
experience in being incarcerated. You may be out, but are
you still carrying the things that affected you from living
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in constant fear every single day.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You may not be in the foster care system anymore,
But what did you see?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
What did you hear? What did you experience? Does your
molestation matter as a man? How many more Catholic priests
are they going to announce that molested boys? And just
maybe all of these Catholic priests would be in jail
if they were all women that these Catholic priests were molesting. See,
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I am unafraid and unapologetic about being vulnerable, honest, vokes
and outspoken.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
That's who I am.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
That's what it's been because I realize quickly I may
not ever get to a level of elon musk money.
I live in something nice, I drive something nice, but
I've never desired. I love you because of your car.
I want you to love the person that's in the
car and then give a compliment to the car after
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that's a good brother in there. It's all in the
way it lands for you. So I'm gonna tell y'all
I am a multi billionaire. Some of y'all ain't happy
for me. I am a multi billionaire. My life in
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my career started with a thirty second commercial. I am
the walking, living, breathing manifestation of God's favor. Right here,
find somebody else who started their career with a thirty
second commercial that turned into thirty years. You may laugh,
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you may make a mockery. I might be posting some
silly shit. I laugh at me too, But you cannot
question God's favor because if it's about talent, why hasn't
everybody else who did a thirty second commercial have that
to go and turn into ten billion in box office
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sell All these records go by one name, just one,
just one. Insecure people will look at this as bragg
and inflexing. I'm not here to tell y'all my Wikipedia page.
I'm telling y'all that I'm different front and I came
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here to change things. I came here to normalize things
that ain't normal. I came here to change things, and
I'm not done. What did you come here to? Do
you do understand that this place is gonna stay the
same unless you change it. Did y'all hear that I
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have a problem with finish your sentence? Do you have
a problem with it? Or are you willing to do
whatever it takes to change it. I came here to
change things. I will be opening a movie studio that
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will have hotels, restaurants, retail, car dealerships, all the above.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I'm gonna do it, and one of you niggas gonna
give me the money to do it too.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
I have a problem with the things that I have
a problem with. These are the things that keep me
up at night. And I want to close this out
with this man. Please God, thank you for everything.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
God.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
I do not take these stages and these platforms for granted,
you could have anybody on this stage. Charlemagne knows everybody
could have had anybody here. So somebody, I hope and
I pray that we have been able to say something
that can change a life, just one.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
It doesn't have to be the whole room.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Some of y'all are so used to going to church
and screaming Hallelujah, and you go right back to doing
the same shit. When I am in the presence of
somebody that drops something on me that falls directly into
my soul, everything about that moment for me changes.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Listen, there is nobody in this.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Room that can purchase me into feeling differently because my
soul is.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Not for sale.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
As a matter of fact, most people with money irritate
the shit out of me. That's why I don't hang
around with celebrities. I connect to and relate to regular folks. Now,
with that being said, I'm gonna close it out with this, y'all.
I want to tell y'all something about the fire in
my belly. I want to be specific about the fire
(45:32):
in my belly. They always say hell is hot, and
they turn the fire and the desire into a negative.
I wake up every single day and literally what keeps
me up at night or the dreams and the visions
I tell people I dream with my eyes open. I
(45:54):
want to become the things I see. When somebody says
something or expose me to something, then I'm like, man.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (46:01):
I never dreamt that I was able to see it,
hear it, or be exposed to it after I woke up,
or I shook a hand and somebody made me aware
of something that was going on. The Fire and desire
in your stomach is a sign and an indication that
that's something that you're supposed to do. The things that
keep you up at night. It could be the way
(46:23):
the things is happening in the community, with the prisons
and the jail and the excessive force and the murder
and all of the things that stress you out. Those
are the things that God continue to show you so
that you can take the initiative to change things. A
movement doesn't happen without movement. What do you have a
(46:46):
problem with? What do you want? And if you decide
to not do it, you're gonna sit back and you're
gonna watch me do it. Because I'm not waiting on
none of y'all because I understand the assignment and that
nothing changes unless you change it.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
So I'm gonna ask y'all to do me a favor.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Don't just go to another conference. Don't be screaming and yelling,
and we're not about to pass out no basket.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
For no offering.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Only thing you need to know is that you could
have been anywhere in any city, state, in country, and
you came here because someone that you're in a relationship with.
Every time you mentioned that clothing idea hair makeup, the
hair salon, any real estate tech, any time you mention
anything to this person, This negative ass dream killer is
(47:40):
shooting down your ideas and you laying up in bed
with the venom right there, pull the covers back.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
That's a snake.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
There is nobody I'm ever gonna date that's gonna stop
me from the things that keep me up at night.
So you look at your grab your stomach sometime when
you're in the mirror, and ask.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
God, what is in my stomach?
Speaker 4 (48:03):
That's that's that's burning, that's keeping me up at night,
that I truly desire, that's what we want. And if
you don't get it done, watch me I will because
I don't feel bad for nobody.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Either you're gonna get it done or it won't be done.
But don't get mad at niggas is out here getting
it done. God bless you. Thank you. Can we make
sure hilarious as all right?
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, he's gonna get a picture of all of us.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
I want to thank y'all for coming out to day.
I want to thank y'all for coming out today. We'll
be here next year. I'm glad we could create a
safe space for Tyrese to get all that off his chest.
Thank you for coming to Really do appreciate y'all, and
you know this is a day of mental health, education
and healing and everything that everybody's been saying on your
stage is true. With Tyree said, it's very true. We
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hope that you came out here today and you feel
encouraged to either continue on your healing journey or to
get started on your healing journey. And I really want
to stay. From the bottom of my heart, thank you
all for coming out today, and we'll see you all
again next year at the fifth annul Mental Health ex Book. Hey, hello,
(49:30):
yo yo, I just want to thank iHeartRadio one time,
and I gotta thank this queen right here, Dr Alfie
breelaying Noble. None of this happens without her, I mean
absolutely nothing, So thank you, doctor Alfie.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Thank you. Hello, Hello, Hey, hey, Charltmagne.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
I didn't know you was just short, bro, because you're
always behind the table sitting down on the breakfast club.
This is crazy. I'm actually taller than him. Did y'all
have fun today? God bless y'all. Y'all know what to
do right, y'all know what to do right?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
All right,
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