Reverend William J. Barber II Interview and More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm like, wow, in the morning, you wake up the
morning I'm talking right, I know you're about to experience
a morning showing like idiot to the bast club. What
you guys are doing right now? It's the hup culture.
Breakfast Club is my morning fit. I need it and
I love it. Something tells yo like you really not
popping until you do the Breakfast Club. The waiting come

(00:22):
to y'all show man. I know you gotta be a
big time celebrity. Be upter here. You gotta be. You
gotta be a big time d J Nry Angiola Ye
and Charlotta Maine the guy the Breakfast Club, bitch you

(00:42):
Good morning USA. And to rouno yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo Good morning Angela ye
Dad moneys Ambi, Charlemagne the god piece to the plane.

(01:03):
It is Thursday, Yes, it's Thursday. I hear you're scratching.
What you mean. I hear you're scratching. I ain't stretching.
What are you talking about Oh I thought I heard
you're scratching. You can't keep thought to you having this
what it's too earlier. Maybe i'm or maybe I'm just

(01:24):
projecting on you. I don't don't project anything on me.
I'm definitely tired. Zoom is very exhausting, bro. It is
if you gotta if you gotta be on Zoom for
the majority of your day, it is very, very very exhausting.
And for whatever reason, um, you know, your people think
that being that it's on Zoom, you can do more. Right,

(01:45):
So to be a lot of stuff on your schedule
Zoom is exhausted. I'm tired of Zoom, but I need
some human interaction when it comes to these meetings and
interviews and whatever else. Yeah, I've been I've been doing
a lot of Zoom calls. What I've been doing now recently,
I ain't even gonna front. I've been doing it on
my phone and just being like, my video doesn't work,
so I could just do it as like a just
a conference call. I've been doing it that a couple

(02:05):
of times. Hilarious a couple of times. But why don't
you want to be seen? Um? Sometimes like other things
to do and when you do a zoom call, you
just got to really be sitting down into the zoom call.
But I like to multitask. So there's a million one things.
I got five kids, There's a lot of things going on,
So sometimes I just put it on the phone and
keep it moving like that. That is true. You do
a lot of these zoom meetings. People will be doing

(02:26):
be doing a lot of other stuff. They'd be cooking, cleaning,
and like people will be trying to do two and
three things that want when they on the zoom I
don't even know. Well, yesterday I went out and I
was walking around in Brooklyn. I was like, let me
get out of the house again and go for a
little walk. There with a lot of very peaceful protests
here in Brooklyn yesterday. So and today they are actually

(02:47):
going to be Mike Fell. And today they're actually going
to be having a memorial service for George Floyd and
Brooklyn and Cabin Plaza at one o'clock. Well, the three officers,
three other officers were charged yesterday. Absolutely Now the chargers
were were aiding and a betting to murder. Was that

(03:07):
that second degree Yeah, aiding and a betting the second
degree murder because they also Chabin's charges to second degree
instead of third degree. Right, what that means? You got
Attorney ben Crump calling in this morning, because that's right, Attorney,
I don't know exactly what any of that means. That's right,
Attorney Benjamin Crump will be checking in. Yeah, because I
would think that the other three officers who were I
think it was two other officers, we're kneeling. We're kneeling

(03:30):
on him as well, like on his lord experimities like
his back and stuff like that. So I would think that,
you know, being that they physically were on him, you know,
they would be charged with something a little little stronger
and aiding and the betting, but hey, what do I know?
Charges of the charges that will stick? Who knows? Man?
And then yesterday I think they had the uh the
mug shots of all four officers. Were the other three
or released yesterday and people were asking, was the lack

(03:53):
one of the officers h lack of African American? Was
he a minority? Do we know they did not get ethnicities?
I didn't see that anywhere. One of them definitely Asian?
Right now, we know what we want to look at
that and see that. But they're saying none of them.
They can't tell they can't tell you. There were some
people were saying he was Asian, some people saying he
was black, some people were saying he was Latino. Day

(04:13):
they were trying to get to, you know, find that out.
But anyway, we have Attorney Benjamin Crump. He'll be checking in.
He'll be breaking down the charges because I have no
idea what those charges meaning and how much time those
officers could really get. And we also have Reverend doctor
William Barbro here'll be checking in as well. Absolutely, you
will learn something on today's show. You definitely will. All right, well,

(04:33):
let's get the show cracking front page news. What we're
talking about, Well, I guess um we were going to
be talking about George Player, but maybe we should say
that for Ben Crump because we just kind of gave
all of that. So let's talk about these other officers,
six Atlanta officers who were charging the arrest of the
Kyllege students that they dragged from the car and hit
with stun guns. All Right, we'll get into that next.
Keeping lock this to Breakfast Club. Good morning phoning everybody

(04:55):
is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we all
the breakfast club. Let's get in some front page news
where we starting you. Well, yesterday Barack Obama had a
virtual town hall. It was founded by my Brother's Keeper Alliance,
and he partners with that with his Obama Foundation. We've
all done a lot of different things with my Brother's Keeper.

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And here is what Barack Obama had to say about
young people and how much they inspire him. Part of
what's made me so hopeful as the fact that so
many young people have been galvanized and activated. Because historically,
so much of the progress that we've made in our
society has been because of young people. Doctor King was
a young man when he got involved. Caesar Chavez was

(05:37):
a young man, Malcolm X was a young man. And
so when sometimes I feel despair, I just see what's
happening with young people all across the country and it
makes me feel optimistic. It makes me feel as if
this country's gonna get better. When Barack Obama was yea,

(06:01):
they say no, I'm gonna say that's right because if
the kids didn't kid and that that would be a problem.
Like I've imagine, you know, all of this happened and
the kids didn't have a reaction to it. Imagine if
nobody had a reaction to it, And imagine if everybody
just went on about that day after something like this,
then you would mate, Damns America have a post. We
should know it's alive. When Barack Obama was in office, though,
he did roll out a number of policies to help

(06:23):
curb those incidents of police brutality, like he created a
task force with guidelines on twenty first century policing. He
also limited the transfer of military equipment to police departments,
but Donald Trump's administration did roll back some of those reforms. Now,
in addition to that, Barack Obama talked about a change
in mindset and how we have to keep the momentum going.
There is a change in mindset that's taking place, a

(06:46):
greater recognition that we can do better. That's a direct
result of the activities and organizing and mobilization and engagement
of so many young people. And so I just have
to say thank you to them. Just make sure that
we now follow through because at some point attention moves away.

(07:09):
In addition to Daddio also gave three ways that you
can make change. Number one, we know there are specific
evidence based reforms that if we put in place today,
would build trust save lives. Those are included in the
twenty first Century Policing task Force Report. You can find
it on Obama dot or number two. A lot of
mayors and local elected officials read and supported the task

(07:32):
Force report, but then there wasn't enough follow through. So
today I am urging every mayor to review your use
of force policies with members of your community and commit
to report on planned reforms. Number three, Every city in
this country should be a My Brother's Keeper community because
we have two hundred and fifty cities, counties, tribal nations

(07:54):
who are working to reduce the barriers and expand opportunity
for boys and young men of color through programs and
polo see reforms and public private partnerships. So go to
our website get working might changes. We have to dismand
through the mechanism of white supremacy, and the people who
benefit from white supremacy have to be able to relinquish

(08:15):
some of that power and privilege. Until that happens, it
is going to continue to be oppression. You just can't
get right, man. Usually your mike is too loud. Today
it's too low. Bro I could barely as I can hear.
They got they gotta figure this out there, you go.
I can't do nothing. It sound like you turned it up.
It got loud. Maybe they turned it up into in
the studio all right, And the six Atlanta police officers

(08:38):
had been booked after charges were filed against him. That
was in Atlanta. They were filmed, as you know, breaking
the windows of a vehicle and they yanked uh Spellman
College and Morehouse College students out of the car. Twenty
two year old Messiah Young was dragged from the vehicle
and his girlfriend, twenty year old Tony A Pilgrim, was
also dragged from her vehicle. Uh Now, they did try
to press charges against Young. He was charged with attempting

(09:02):
to elude the officers, and Atlanta Mayor Keisha lands Bottom
said she's ordering that his charges are dropped, and body
camera video shows that they also took another young man
into custody in a downtown and a down a downtown
street alongside a line of stop cars as well. He
was pleading with police to let him go, saying that
he didn't do anything. So they are happy that these
officers are being held accountable for their actions. Two of

(09:25):
the officers whose fires were announced Sunday, investigators Ivy Streeter
and Mark Gardner, were charged, and there were four other
officers charged as well. They're being charged with aggravated assault
for using a taser against Young and charged with pointing
a gun at Young, according to arrest warrants, and Gardner's
charged with aggravated assault for using a taser against Pilgrim
man drop on a clues bombs for Keisha Lands bottoms.

(09:49):
Do you see that, man A du Blasio. Okay, that's
how a man is supposed to treat corrupt police officers. Okay.
I love elected officials who care about the people more
than they care about the system. The system is supposed
to work with us, and when it doesn't, and when
there's an abusive power from the system, they got to
be held accountable. As simple as that got them up
out of there quick. We can't do that. Can't do
that when you're in the police in your pocket like

(10:09):
mad Bliss and the Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard
announced those charges during a news conference that happened. Atlanta
Police did not immediately have a comment. All right, well,
that is your front page news get it off your
chest eight hundred five eight five one on five one.
If you need to vent, hit us up right now.
Phone lines wide open again the number again, it's eight

(10:29):
hundred five eight five one on five one is the
Breakfast Club. Come on the Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up,
wake y'all. This is your time to get it off
your chest. Because you're mad or blast, we want to
hear from you on a breakfast clove. Hello. Who's this? Hey,
this ros Au Bro. How are you feeling to day? Man?

(10:54):
I'm feeling fine. One love to you all, one love
to y'all in these get it off your chest, bro, man,
I'm upset about that black authors of sci fi have
no outlets. Really, like we're kind of rejected and thrown
and loose from the film industry to the book literaries,
to the publishing companies. You know, like we really need
some some better outlets for black sci fi authors. Now,

(11:17):
I agree smooth my dude s investor, he got this
line call planet Dad, But I agree with you. It's
only because they don't take us serious in that space
right now. They look at black people and they think
we're only supposed to be writing about one thing, which
is usually the screet life, right, And that's that's like
like they want us just to walk write an identity
of corruption and nothing that develops us or gives us
some science about life, you know. So like in my

(11:40):
book The Black Rosa Coush, we got everything in there
from post traumatic slave syndrome, like with doctor j. M.
Joy m degury puts in her book, y'all definitely need
to put her on your show. Have y'all had doctor
post traumatic slave syndrome. She is she is the I
call her the female malcol mix of this time. You

(12:02):
got to really check her out, like she is the
truth for post traumatic slave syndrome. If I've heard that, yeah,
I mean I've heard that term. Yeah, I've definitely used
that term. I don't maybe, man, maybe I do know her.
I don't know. I've definitely used that term though. Well,
thank you to go see the Slave play on Broadway.
Then well when it's whenever it's back open again, it's

(12:23):
kind of all about that too. But I shout out
to Toshi Bouchet. We had him on the show. He's
a black sci fi author. He wrote the book War Girls. Hello,
who's this? Hey, what's going on? It's Kevin. Kevin. What's up?
Broke morning everybody? Good morning, peace King. What's going on? Yeah,
I'm gonna tell us right now. I'm part of me.

(12:44):
I'll tell us what's going on right now. I'm actually
uh like Ohio just actually went into a lockdown as
of eleven sixty nine last night, and actually I gotta
go up and I'm still I work. I work for
Google and it's like seventeen thousand people here right now.
It was like, I don't know why they didn't you
know this, the message didn't get over here, but I just, uh,

(13:06):
I just want to get off my chest and I'm
ready for this thing to be over. Man. I mean,
my birthday is coming up on March. Study if I'm
still I still gotta work, I still gotta do everything
I gotta do here, like you know what I mean.
And it's just like I think it's us Uh, it's
a point of it's chaotic. It's just chaotic. Now. You know,
they gave me for hims to give the police. They're like, look,
if you get pulled over, get a police this like
what it's kind of crazy. So yeah, we got those two.

(13:28):
I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you something. If
you believe in social distancing, the club to want coronavirus
to be over, it's pretty packed. I don't think you
need to be in here. Yeah, and just be blessed
that you do have some kind of job, because there's
a lot of people out there that have no work,
have no income, and that they're allowing you to work
with social distancing. Hello, who's this? Good morning angela. Yo.

(13:48):
March twenty to me, listen. March twenty fourth is to
me as January thirty is to you. Boo boo. Oh well,
happy birthday, snack man, thank you, thank you. Okay, here,
how are you celebrating with coronavirus? Yeah? Oh, thank you. Well,
here's a joke. You're ready, Thank you. Guy, he's not
even listening. What do you call a Mexican hangover? Corona virus?

(14:19):
Get off the stage? Boo? Get it off your chest
eight D five eight five one on five one if
you need to vent eat us up right now. It's
the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. It's your
time to get it off your chests, whether you're man
or blast, so you better have the same. Inny, we

(14:41):
want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello,
who's this? Tram good Envy? Oh, we'll try. What's up? Brother?
Hey trash Heyo, how are you? What's up? Boo? How
are you? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I'm going
on Charlottamagne pieces what's happening? Telling like a villain, telling
like a villain. Hey, Man, For first, I want to say,

(15:03):
um training the training trainer at treating, at treating trainer,
you are I'm gotta I'm I gotta take my pictures
off my Instagram with her man, because he's he's She's
clearly embarrassed. She's clearly being embarrassing right now, the way
that she's acting, calling people animals and stuff. By the
way she's supposed to be. She's supposed to be making

(15:24):
a statement this morning. So we'll see what she has
to say. Girl, keep your statement. I don't think I
don't think we want her statement. We try. We gotta
stop doing one thing, though, we we gotta stop saying
r ip just when somebody makes a mistake. That's a
bit harsh, don't you think r I p under said
that I might got to take my pictures down with her.
I don't know. Yeah, but don't say r ip. Yeah

(15:46):
you can somebody if she made a mistake, and and
not saying not defending her. But let's be honest. We
all say things out of anger, out of hate, out
of being confused. So we'll see what she has to say.
Hopefully she apologizes, she understands what she said that was,
and listen, I'm fine if you want to cancel this.
Don't put death on the person, all right, harsh I
feel and you know what, and I think she was.

(16:08):
She was a little emotional. You know, her brother got
shot and killed and she was discussing that and a
lot of different things. And she may have misspoke. So
we'll see what she has to say this morning. Okay,
that's cool. Well, listen, I'm also to say about my
job real quick, right, So my job took the right
spin as far as like blacking outs like their website
and putting out a bunch of messages to our company

(16:30):
and stuff and mind work at Montgomery County. Montgomery County
also their mayor also claimed that Black Lives Matter as
a terrorist organization. And you should see the way that
people at my job right acting about the way that
my company is standing behind Black Lives Matter batter so
I might need to be finding another company. It's crazy
that people take Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization.

(16:52):
An organization that's actually sticking up for people because they're
tired of seeing black people get killed at the hands
of the pole is a terrorist. We're gonna strange plank you,
dight five five one oh five one. Get it off
your chest now you we got rumors on the way. Yes,
we're gonna be talking about Drew Brees. People are very

(17:13):
upset at him. Lebron James is leading the athlete pushback
on some of his comments on protests. All right, we'll
get into that next. Keep it lot, It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, the Breakfast Club. It's about angela Ye fund

(17:35):
to Breakfast Club. So Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has started
his own start small fund and he's putting up three
million dollars of his own money into that fund, and
it's all aimed at Kaepernicks Know Your Rights Camp. So
he's dedicating that money to pay legal calls for protesters
who got arrested while fighting for justice for George Floyd.

(17:56):
So you can see you on Twitter. Three million to
Colin Kaepernick's No Your Rights Camp to vance a liberation
and well being a black and brown communities through education,
self empowerment, mass mobilization to elevate the next generation of
change leaders. And that's what he said, that money is
going towards. So as you know, Conlin Kaepernicks Know Your
Rights Camp started a legal defense initiative to cover legal

(18:16):
bills for the freedom fighters. Oh, salute to Jack. That's right.
That's that's how you use your privilege in paper to
combat prejudice. Salute to Jack. Yes, And now let's talk
about Drew Brees from the New Orleans Saints. The quarterback.
He had some things to say when he talked about
seeing players kneeling during the national anthem when football resumes.
And here's what he had to say when he was

(18:36):
questioned about that. I will never agree with anybody disrespecting
the flag of the United States of America. Let me
let me just tell you what I feel when the
national anthem is played. And when I look at the
flag of the United States, I envision my two grandfathers
who fought for this country during World War Two? And
is everything right with our country right now? No? We

(18:58):
still have a long way to go. But I think
what you do by standing there and showing respect to
the flag with your hand over your heart is it
shows unity. It shows that we are all in this together,
we can all do better, and then we are all
part of the solution. Drew Brees shut the f up forever.
I watched that video a few times yesterday. I didn't
understand the context, Like what it was they asking him

(19:18):
about kneeling in peaceful protests? Was they asking him about
the protest now? Like why did he volunteer that information
at a time like this, I'm not sure? And they
showed pictures him kneeling before, So I was lost in
confusing exactly. Well, for any white people who don't understand this,
notice you wonder why so many black folks have a
problem with patriotism. It's because how can we salute a
country that enslaved us and continues to brutalize us. Drew

(19:41):
Brees sees America, you know, for the beautiful country. It
is because he's a white privileged male. That's how he
sees America, because this white supremacist system works well for
him because it was designed too. So he don't see
the same America. We see well, Lebron responded. He said, Wow, man,
is it still surprising at this point? Sure? Isn't You
literally still don't understand and why CAP was kneeling on

(20:01):
one knee has absolute nothing to do with the disrespect
of the flag and our soldiers men and women who
keep our land free. My father in law was one
of those men who fought as well for this country.
I asked him questions about it and thank him all
the time for his commitment. He never found caps peaceful
protests offensive because he and I both know what's right
is right and what's wrong is wrong. God bless you.
A lot of players also, a lot of NFL players

(20:24):
went online to vocalize how they felt about Drew Brees' comments,
which a sherman said, He's beyond lost. Guarantee you they
were black men fighting alongside your grandfather. But this doesn't
seem to be about that that uncomfortable conversation you are
trying to avoid by injecting military into a conversation about
brutality and equality as part of the problem, Julius Pepper said,
if you're still talking about players disrespecting the flag by

(20:45):
kneeling during the national anthem. Clearly you're not ready for
these conversations. Call a time out and come back later now.
Some of his most well known teammates from the Saints,
including top wide receiver Michael Thomas, also publicly had things
to say. Michael Thomas had elevated innovation over ignorance, and
Stephen Jackson actually responded to Michael Thomas his comments and said,
this where the whole Drew Brees accountable. Mike. I don't

(21:07):
give it down if you throw you all of them touchdowns,
bad time and Drew Brees bad timing. Bro. All right,
you played from the walls and you live in the walls.
All the black people knew, all of us support you,
Drew Brees. You gotta be a little bit more sensitive
to the timing. Bro. You can't just be saying about
your ass. You should understand, but y'all gotta hold all
y'all white team makes accountable, bro, Drew Brees, if you

(21:28):
ain't down with us, then you on the other side. Yeah,
it's gonna be rough in that Saints loocking room, uh
this year. But I also want to tell any white
person out there who doesn't get it. If you don't
understand why cap was kneeling. Then go watch the video
of that white devil cop kneeling on George Floyd's neck
for almost nine minutes, and then you'll probably get it.
All right, Well, I'm Angela Yee and that is your

(21:50):
rumor report. All right, thank you, miss Yee. Now, when
we come back, we have Attorney Benjamin Crump joining us
also test we're gonna be talking about these charges filed
against these all, what they mean, what's next, and we're
gonna talk to him when we come back during front
page news, So don't move us to Breakfast Club. Good morning,
Good morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Scholomine the guy.

(22:11):
We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
on the line, Attorney Benjamin Crump. Welcome back, brother, Hey,
good to see your game. And tesla for Garos with
attorney being Crump. Yes that sweet. Now we're gonna ask,
of course, yesterday the three officers were charged, so can
you break down the charges and tell us exactly what
those charges mean and how much time can those officers

(22:32):
really get? Absolutely, and thank you all for the Breakfast
Club family, everybody staying vigilant until we got the charges.
The Attorney General for the state of Minnesota, Keith Ellison,
a good brother well for a track record for champion
in civil rights. He can announced yesterday that all the

(22:55):
officers were being arrested for aiding and a bedding and
he upgraded the charges envy on office of Chauvin to
second degree murder, which if he is convicted and I
say if, because we don't want to get ahead of ourselves, Charlemagne,
he can get up to forty years in prison. And Angie,

(23:18):
the others who have charged aiding in a bedding, if
they're convicted, they can get up to twenty years in prison.
So based on the autops that we talked about with
the family, doctor Michael Biden and a sister named doctor
Alicia Wilson who is the head of Pathology and Forensic
Sciences at the University of Michigan, they're an independent autopsy

(23:41):
and came to these conclusions. Number one, the man and
cause of death with mechanical asphyxiation based on the knee
to the neck by Chauvin for almost nine minutes, eight
minutes and forty six seconds Angie to be exact. And
then the two knees in the back on the video Charlemagne,

(24:01):
when we look at the other officer who kept his
knees there the entire time, and so it was pressing
down on his lungs, not allowing them to contract and
intake or dispense air, which caused no blood flow to
go to his brain, and he was starving from a
lack of error. Literally, that's where it died from the

(24:24):
legal definition of the autopsy was homicide. Obviously that's most
important for the criminal charges. And so those were the conclusions,
and they were contradictory to the conclusions of the county
ba's who MEDICA examiners are autopsy and so that's what
he used the basis charges. Angie, how can there be

(24:45):
two such different autopsy results, That's what I wanted to
ask you, because I know the family. You guys did
go ahead and order an independent one. So how can
something like that happen? Angie? Happens more often than you
would think. The Medica examiner who works with the police
departments every day, they come up with these amazing imaginary

(25:06):
ways to tell us what we saw really didn't happen
or was not the cause of death. And so the
counter medical examiner did agree that it was homicide after
we came out with it. But then he said it
could be genitive heart failure, that he had some underlying
health conditions that were undiagnosed, and so he said that

(25:28):
is a condition that could have killed them because they
saw no trauma to the trachea or not enough trauma
to the creakier even though our doctors disagree with that.
And they said, and Jane Charlemagne and easy, the old
thing they always say, Oh he had drugs in his system,
had coronavirus. That's what I heard some newer hurt this morning. Yeah,
that's they saying that too. But that didn't kill them,

(25:52):
even if it was there. No fitting all didn't kill them.
No meth and fail amine killed them. All of those,
I believe, or just distractions to try to us throw
us off track, calling like Eric Garder, y'all y'all in
New York, y'all know how they came out and tried
to literally say that Eric Gardner didn't die from what
those officers did. So that's why we got to stay vigilant.

(26:14):
I know, we're talking about making sure we get a
conviction all the officers on this case. And then Tesla
is helping me talk about the political ramifications of how
we use this moment to turn it into systematic reforming legislation.
Let's hear it, t Let's hear that. That's what I
want to hear. How do we keep prevent things like

(26:35):
this from happening? Absolutely well, it's really important that we
continue to collective pressure. You know, we talk about collective
pressure all the time, and one thing is due to
keep making sure that the message is consistent from a
public standpoint. It's really important we keep hearing folks talk
about the property damage. Let us all remember that when
black people came to this country, the first thing that
they did was make us property. So there has always

(26:57):
over property being more important than black lives in black bodies.
So it's really important, particularly to my breakfast club family,
that we continue to keep the narrative consistent that one
we need systematic change. I know Reverend Al Sharpton will
be announcing some things today at the eulogy to talk
about how we can come together to talk about federal
laws that need to be in place, and those are
the type of things that we need to keep the

(27:18):
pressure on. We cannot allow this to be used as
the poltical pond to have a center and Klobuchar or
Biden or Trump or whoever to use this to push
one agenda over the other. We must keep the main
thing the main thing, and consistently talk about how do
we get lost in place to make sure that police
officers go to jail when they kill us. It's not
about trying to change the heart of anybody, but it

(27:40):
is about with diversity, training and so forth. That's important.
But the main thing is if you get caught killing us,
if you get caught doing us wrong, you will go
to jail and that will be an immediate conviction. I
will probably say this is the fastest that we've ever
had a result. And this because people have been in
the street, protesting, using their voices online and having folks
like you at the breakfast club. They continue to keep
that message consistent. Hey Ben, let me ask you a question.

(28:02):
How come to other officers who kneeled on him? Why
weren't they giving charges other than aiding in a bedding?
You know? Attorney General Keith Ellison said to the family
and me that they're continuing to investigate and if they
find evidence that will sustain the first degree murder charge
against Chauvin, they will upgrade that charge. And I believe

(28:25):
they're gonna find that information out there because I think
he knew George Floyd. I think they had a history,
and so we got to keep on that. Charlomagne and
number two, he said, if those other officers we can show,
based on their audio from their body cameras that they
had mental thoughts that were ill will against George, he
will increase the charges. He said. He just doesn't have

(28:46):
that evidence yet. And I do want to say whether
it's a model, But Brianna Taylor, George, what we gotta
do them with tes as a political consultant to all
of us, Chalomagne's happen us with his systematic response in
all of these cases, so black people the criminal justice
system to work the same in Minnesota as it does

(29:07):
in Georgia, or as doing Kentucky, or in state and
all in New York. We need federal systematic reform to
make sure this moment for George Floyd is not just
a moment, but it's a movement to prevent other brothers
and sisters from being being killed. Now, let me ask you,
what can I ask you? A technical question? I've heard

(29:28):
people saying that it's a lot harder to convict an
officer or first degree murder, so they're saying that's why
that's not a charge that they would prefer. I just
want to ask you, as an attorney, because I don't
know obviously the ins and outs of that, So are
we trying to do that? Is that? Is there truth
to that? Now, Queen, there's a lot of truth to that.
It's very really that the officers ever convicted the first

(29:50):
degree murder. That's what made both of them. John such
a phenomenon. You remember the first time in the history
of white policewoman was convicted the first degree murder for
killing a black person. Because people want to believe police,
no matter how much they show us that they have
this legacy of being the slave patrol. A lot of
our white brothers and sisters want to say, no, no,

(30:12):
they're just doing their job. They're good people, and they
didn't premeditate this. They didn't intend this. This is just
something that happened, but they torch it. George Floyd, I mean,
the governor Minnesota was right to say we want to
investigate them for human right abuses in Van Charloma, because
I mean, they tortured them. Nine minutes, he's saying I

(30:33):
can't breathe. He's asking for his mama. I mean, think
about the psychology of that for a second. The person
who protects us most when we come in this world.
It's innate for us to always think about our mothers,
our protector. And then at the end of his life,
in a desperate police he say Mama, mama, and then
he does a documentary of his death and he says,

(30:56):
I'm gone now. So that's why this is gonna be
a hard funeral and memorial for the family. So we
are big only serious mental health counseling. Charlotte made all
his family, especially his children and his brothers and sisters. Yeah,
me and Tayla was talking about that last night. We're
trying to put something together, you know, for the families
to get that grief counseling that they need. Tay I

(31:18):
don't want to ask you a question real quick. I started.
They allowed Amy Klobuchar to announce that the officers were
being arrested. That felt political to me. Why did she
announce instead of Keith Ellis? Absolutely, well, we are let's
just keep a real straight shout with no Jason, you know,
being as nice, I'm gonna get a little bit rough.
But she did it because again she has to make
some type of amends to the black community. Too bad

(31:39):
she wasn't doing that type of announcement years ago when
she had an opportunity to discipline this officer, to the
fire officer, to prosecute this officer. So what we're not
getting ready to do in twenty twenty is played this
game as this political pond, and she's continued to push
her VP application up. And to be real, it's gonna
be reviewed and it's gonna be reviewed by the people,
and we'll determine on whether or not we think she's
a suitable cab for vice president. So I think a

(32:02):
lot of us are on it that the jig is up.
We are able to figure out Amy, that you had
an opportunity to speak up. So don't start with tweets
down that this is me saying an attorney Benjamin Crump,
he's more Martin, I'm more Malcolm. So let's be clear. Uh,
Senator Cloby char we see it, We see you. We
keep the game, and let's she also be a vocal
voice and actually getting some federation passed. That's where her

(32:24):
opportunity is to step in and not to try to
use this as a political I just see this Aman,
Charlotte Main and Angie. This guy had eighteen previous allegations
of excessive force, most of them against minorities, so it
was for silver. The problem Amy club charge was the
district attorney before she became senator, so they could have

(32:45):
prosecuted this guy and George Floyd will still be alive. Well,
we know you gotta go, and we appreciate you tes
An Attorney Benjamin Crumb for checking I know you guys
are on seen right now. Thank you for checking in
and breaking down the charges and keeping us in for them.
And you know we got a line to you anytime
we need you. Thank you so much. Guys. All right,
pray for the family memorial of my love. Thank you absolutely.

(33:08):
I But when we come back, we have Reverend doctor
William Barber checking into the move. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, Breakfast Club. Ej Envy Angela yee, Charlomagne, the
guy we all the breakfast Club. Now we got a
special guest on the line. Right now, we have Reverend
doctor William Barbara, Good morning, brother, good morning, good morning.

(33:30):
Now we're saying a second ago that you and Charlomagne
were talking behind the scenes, but we were setting everything
up and we said, saved it for air. So Charloman,
what were you talking about with the brother, Well, he
was telling me about how when you go to the
meetings with these with these politicians, and he asked James,
go ahead, go ahead, Reverend Barba. At the bottom line
is in our campaign, the Poor People's Campaign, a national
call for my revival. We did an audit of America

(33:54):
on five interlocking injustice. Five injustices that are like interlocking
eve and you got to address all of them simultaneously,
because they try to choke the life out of what's
left of this democracy. Systemic racism in all of its forms,
systemic poverty, ecological devastation, denial of healthcare, the war econoiment

(34:17):
and militarism, and the false modern of religious nationalism and
white evangelicalism. When you go into meetings, you start talking
and you lay out an agenda, you actually have fifty
things or twenty things that relate to that. How we
deal with it? The question is always, well, what is
the most important, or what one thing, or for instance,

(34:37):
on race that say okay, well we got a commission
that we're gonna do for racism, and what we say
is we have an agenda here. And then after a
while I finally say, listen, look at this pandemic. We
pass three bills, three trillion dollars in less than fifty
forty days, back in two weeks. The corporations get everything

(34:59):
they want. They get three trillion dollars. So if they
can get three trillion things, then you need to hear
my fifty right. We're not We're not playing that game
because politics is not just about listening. So, I mean,
one of the things that I'm deep, deeply concerned about
right now. I heard it this morning somebody say, well,
you know Trump, listen, Trump this, but you know we

(35:21):
were getting along before him. I'm saying, but you were
getting along doing what's right, getting along doing what There
were hundred and forty million poor people in this country
prior to the pandemic. Forty three percent of this nation
and sixty one percent of African America were poor and
low income prior to this pandemic, and seven hundred people

(35:45):
were dying a day and two hundred a quarter million
a year. Seven people died from vaping, and we had
a congressional hearing. Seven people died from vaping, and there
was a presidential audience in the White House. Seven hundred
people dying a day from poverty, and sixty one percent

(36:06):
of African American poet Lowell, sixty eight percent of Latino
and politicians are scared to say poverty. Republicans are racialize it,
Democrats running from it. Nobody deals with the reality of it.
So we're not gonna just talk about one than we
need to talk about the comprehensive things that need to
be done. That's your question, the Reverend Bolba, why haven't

(36:28):
black people received the economic justice they deserve from this country?
You know, it has a long history. I want to
go through the whole history, you know it. You know
the thing that they stopped real quick was the four
acres in the mute. It's kind of like, y'all free
and Paul's two things. We weren't fighting for a long weekend.

(36:50):
And the saying we weren't fighting for was just freedom.
It was citizenship, full citizenship. I think the problem is
one we've not dealt with the extent of the problem.
That's the first thing since kings killed Robert Kennedy was
killed nineteen sixty eight, for about fifty to two years,

(37:11):
if you think about it, the issue of potty has
been wiped off the table. We have a knee with
Both parties are trapped not in the same way, but
by a neoliberalism imagination that Baxley says, one proof says
if you take care of middle class and up, everybody
will be okay. If you take care what others says,

(37:33):
if you take care of the top, that'll trickle down. Well,
that's just not true. And so when you're trapped in
that imagination and you're not even talking about the extent
of the economic injustice. When I say one hundred and
forty million people, that's out a shock everybody. First of all,
the government says there's only thirty eight thirty nine million
people that are poor. That's not true. According to Columbia Harvard,

(37:57):
it's one hundred and forty million. Now, you cannot continue
to pass policies year after year after year and say
we're getting better a little bit and never deal with
the factor forty three percent of your entire population in
poverty and in this pandemic is going over fifty. So
the first has to deal with the extent of the issue.
So what do you think the solution should be? How

(38:20):
do we solve this problem? Right? Well, again, if I
might talk in the terms that I talk in in
terms of a fusion more fusion analysis, there are several
things that block us from dealing with the real economic agenda.
One starts with racism. One form of racism, and that's
racist voter suppression and jaymandering, because that's used to lock

(38:42):
up the system in a certain way, so that so
that people can't really break through and be engaged. What
I mean by that, we do mapping in our movement,
and every state that is a racist voters pressure state
that where the governor of the legislation to the congressional representatives,
the Senate, and the presidential candidates get elected, is skewed

(39:07):
by gerrymandering and racist Okay, that's that's the facular matter.
The courts recently called it surgical racism. So that means
that your political bodies are not really representative of the people.
You can actually have more people vote in a progressive way,
but then they not get elected because of racism. Now
you said, what does that have to do with economics, Well,

(39:28):
the economics is false by policy, not just by charity,
and not just by one or two people getting rich.
It's policy. Sixty to fifty four percent of all African Americans,
for instance, make less than a living ways. You could
change that tomorrow by raising the minimum ways to fifteen
dollars an hour and pump six hundred and thirty billion

(39:50):
dollars into the economy. But you can't raise that just
by asking corporation to be nice. It has to be
a policy. Voter suppression undermines our plitics. Let me quickly
show you what I mean by that. Every state that
is a racist voter suppression state, if you put the
map over, that is also a high povertive state. Is
also a state where the politicians block living wages and

(40:13):
block healthcare. And the people who are doing that, many
of them get elected not because they want to vote,
because they cheated through racistists vote suppression in German. So
you have so and here's the other piece of that.
The people who use race to get elected. Once they
get elected, they not only pass policies that hurt the

(40:36):
overwhelm them a number of black people, They passed policies
that hurt white people because there are more white people
that are poor in raw numbers then there are black
people that are more black people that are impacted by
power in terms of the percentage, but they're answer them
more white people in raw numbers. So if your politics
are locked up, then your policies are locked up. And

(40:59):
what kind of policies we need. We need living wages immediately.
We need guarantee basic income. Doctor King talked about that
years ago. Right, we need healthcare, and every congress person
gets free healthcare, every governor gets free healthcare. But when
it comes to the people having the same thing, they
have all of a sudden, we can't afford it. We

(41:22):
have more with Reverend doctor William babo when we come back,
don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody
is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne mc gad, we'all the
Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Reverend doctor William
Babo Ye. So with everything that's been happening now with
the pandemic with coronavirus, do you feel like people are
becoming more active and that they're actually stepping up and

(41:44):
saying but the demands are and right before an election,
just wanting certain policies and being more involved in local
elections and all of that. Do you think that things
are about to be somewhat of a revolution. Yeah. I
think that those who think that the reaction to George
Floyd's murder lynching, a knee killing on camera, death by racism.

(42:12):
That's what we saw. I call it a Code sixty
six death by racism. But you miss it if you
think it's just about George Floyd, the same way you
would miss it if you thought the reaction to the
killing of Milly Jackson in nineteenes it to vile just
about Jimilly Jackson. We are seeing public more people are
protesting because they know it doesn't have to be like this.

(42:36):
People only protest what they believe can be changed. If
folk didn't protest, that meant we really would be in trouble,
because it mean people have given en of all hope
that things could change. Now. I think that this we
see happening has the potential for people to say, wait
a minute. When he said I can't breathe, he was

(42:56):
talking about that cops knee on his neck and those
other cops only back. But I think a lot of
people heard that metaphorically. We can't breathe either. That's right
because of the way the poverty on our neck and
the denial of healthcare on our next You see, we're
in the midst. It's when this happened. It happened in
the midst of a pandemic. Prior to the pandemic, you

(43:16):
had a hundred forty million people poor, seven hundred people
a day dying from poverty. Then you have the pandemic.
We have all this negligence in an aptitude of the
President and the Senate, and then we have all this money.
Three bills get passed, it goes for the corporate goes up,
it doesn't come down. And then we take service workers
and we said, oh, we know, we'll do. We'll give
them a name change. That's all they need, changing from

(43:39):
service work or two essential workers. But we won't give
them the essentials they need. So you had three bills passed.
Not one of those bills guarantee of healthcare in the
middle of the pandemic. We didn't shive. Not one of
those bills said we're gonna guarantee sickly, We're gonna guarantee unemployment.
We're gonna guarantee rent forgiveness. That actual building they passed
said you could have a moratorium on your rent for
three years three months within the fourth month. You had

(44:01):
to pay the three months and the fourth month at
the same month, or you couldn't pay one month at
a time. To hell, you know thrill? I mean really,
And we didn't. We didn't. We didn't even guarantee in
those those you could cut offs on a pandemic where
you need to wash your hand. There was nothing in
there that said you can't cut off people's water, damn right.

(44:23):
But like, but like you said, you know, I was
talking the other day. I was like, you know, you
say deferment. I ain't got to pay for three months, right,
Let's say four months. Let's say, man, I gotta get it.
Find a job. Do when I find a job, you
want me to play the full four months right away? Right?
I can't afford it, and and you you can. How
could you if I couldn't pay, I can barely pay thirteen.

(44:44):
Now you're gonna raise my note up so I can
make up the four months? Right? I can't say that
I'm gonna be late and you're gonna be that's right,
But you immediately give the corporations two eighty five percent
of all that money went to up top eighty five percent.
So basically you say to them, we're gonna pay you
to pay your bill. In fact, we're gonna say, poor

(45:04):
folk have to pay an eighty five percent searchyard just
to get a little tina that we didn't. We didn't.
You know, nobody would look brought my breakfast club. You
wouldn't go to a club they had an eighty five
I said, search, yarg on, you just coming in? Come on, y'all.
I mean, we ain't all been saved all our life.
Come Onbam. I keep saying that if Barack Obama is

(45:25):
Jeff K Joe Biden has the chance to be Lending b. Johnson,
especially in a moment like this, you think he could
be as progressive on race and classes LBJ. I think
we are in a third reconstruction. The pains of a
third reconstructive first one was reconstruction right out to slavery.
Then you had a reaction to that, just like Trump
was reaction to Barack Obama. We had a second reconstruction,

(45:48):
the civil rights movement then the reaction to that was
the Southern strategy and Wallace and Nixon and all that,
and now we're in the birth pains of a third reconstruction.
I said to Vice President on an Easter podcast. I
heard it all right, that there are moments that crucifixion
gives you an opportunity to resurrect, but you gotta take it.

(46:13):
There are moments that what you may have said and
meant well before doesn't fit and you have to know
that moment. And not only Biden, but the Congress. I
keep saying to even to Democrats, all these energy industries,
what if people you come out, they come out with
a hero to be able even that's limited because it's limited.

(46:34):
They said, well, what we can't get past because of McConnell, Well,
why not passed in the House what ought to be passed.
And then McConnell wants to go against people's lives. Let
him do that publicly, and we film that and short
to people. And then the question to become do you
want to vote for folk we're trying to fight for
you to have healthcare, or do you want to vote
for folk to even in the midst of a pandemic,

(46:54):
will let you die. Do you want to vote for
people who will say you need a living wave and
will push that out there, or do you want to
vote for people but believe things that really live operations.
There has to be a dicotomy, and we have to
get free of this deoliberal from the middle high middle
up imagination. So I think it's possible, but it's only

(47:17):
possible if it's rooted in policy. It can't just be
a conversation. And this is the time I think you
have to do a major presentation. In fact, this is
gonna sound strange maybe to some part, and let me
say it here. I keep hearing folks and we need,

(47:38):
we need a black agenda. But the question is how
do we do that? And what I mean by that
if you look at these five interlocking injustices, what I'm
looking for and what the poor People's campaigns looking for.
And while we're meeting on June twenty of twenty twenty
four a Mans Poor People's Assembly and Marl March on
Washington that day, you're not gonna hear from me, or
say you're gonna hear from this white coal mine in

(48:00):
Kentucky who's hooking up these black folk from the Mississippi
Delta who decided to address racism and poverty, not just poverty,
so we don't have to deal with race and not
just race. So they think it's that's just dealing with
black people. What if we had the Congress and the
candidates forget party for a minute. What if you say,

(48:22):
here's my plan for healthcare. Let's just say healthcare this pandemic.
And when I put this plan together, I made sure
that addressing the disparities of race was right in the
center of putting it together. Now here's the plan. And
if I am elected and this plan is pushed forward,

(48:45):
this is how will impact black people, this is how
will impact Latino people, This is how will impact children,
this is how That's the grown up conversation we got
to have. Absolutely in America. I walk in every piece
of policy our campaign says, in every policy, we want

(49:05):
to know, how does it address systemic racism, systemic positive,
ecological devastation, so forths all so those, And then that
way we move from voting for a person to a
prosity that has a policy. Hi, we got more with
Reverend doctor William Barber. When we come back, don't move.

(49:25):
It's the breakfast Club, Good Morning morning. Everybody is DJ
Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the gad y'all. The Breakfast Club
was still kicking it with Reverend Doctor William Barber Charlomane.
I keep saying, man, voting doesn't matter if the person
you voting for is not going to go in there
and help dismand through the system of white supremacy, exactly,
and and and then you got to teach folks. What

(49:47):
we do in the Poor People's Campaign is we teach
people that racism, when you really push it, it's not
just against black people, it's against humanity, it's against the democracy.
It hurts everybody. Remember what I said, the same p
politician that passed racist vote suppression law, block living wages
and block healthcare. And when they do that, it actually

(50:07):
blocks more in raw numbers, not in the impact way people.
That's why our campaign is organizing people in the hills
of Kentucky and in the black streets of Louisville. Because
doctor King said in sixty five, anytime black poor folk
and white poor folk. He said this at the end
of the some of the Montgomery March. I think one

(50:27):
of the greatest speeches that we don't reference enough. He said,
anytime there's the possibility for poor black folk and poor
white people to change the political capitals and to change
the policy. The bourbon class noticed, he didn't say democratic republic.
He said, the bourbon class, the aristocracy sows division, sows
division by design. And so we have to first of

(50:51):
all deal with what racism is. And then second of all,
we have to examine it in every aspect of policy.
And the third of all, we have to be able
to name specific policies that are going to unpack it.
And I and I think what people misread when when
when you ask these questions on the front end, they
act like black people like if you if you don't

(51:11):
if you ask a question and push me, then you
might not vote for me in November. Well I might not,
But if I ask you and maybe you give me
fifty percent, I might look at the other person and say,
well they are twenty percent, So I vote for you,
and then I push you after the election for the
rest of the fifty. But you can't just get a pass.
I got to talk quick questions, man. The poor People's campaign,

(51:34):
that's the movement. Doctor MLK Junior was pivoted too it's
ultimately I think we got him killed. What made you
want to think, well, it got it got him killed.
You know, it pains me to say some of this.
But when doctor King called his nation the greatest purveyor
of violence, and exactly the one year to the date

(51:55):
of his death, August third, nineteen sixty seven, and he
started talking about the three evils poverty, racism, and militarism.
And he said that America couldn't be who she pretends
to be and promises to be without dealing with all
three of those moral fusion. And she said, he said,

(52:17):
we got to deal with all three of them. The
next morning, over a hundred newspapers wrote against him. Some
black newspapers wrote against him black some black organizations wrote
resolutions against him, prominent organizations, some ministers turned against him.
He lost his invitation to the White House. And the

(52:39):
more he started talking about the two Americas, one prosperous
and one poor, the more he started bringing together poor
and white people and black people around this agenda to
a deal with racism and poverty. What you see in
the street now white and black folk. But talking about
racism poverty. Once he did that, he was marked because

(53:02):
it was about fundamentally shifting to society. Now. The other
half of that story is it was the black welfare
rights women that kind of pushed doctor King to go
in that direction, and doctor King understood something. You cannot
change this society until you change the narrators. That's what
we're doing today. My last question, macause you are a reverend.

(53:26):
I feel like everything that's going on right now is divine,
and I truly feel like no good is gonna come
to America until they do right by black people through
legislation and reparations. What do you think exactly? You know
you cannot. John Hope Franklin said something that encapsulated it
for me, and I'm gonna repeat him. God blessing he's

(53:48):
gone on that. We did an interview with him. He said,
you know, if I could keep somebody enslavery for two
hundred and fifty years and then at him go and
just say, oops, that's what not doing reparations, that's not
what not doing not dealing with the realities of the
injustices that still permeate from two hundred and fifty years

(54:11):
of free labor being taken. If I can do that
to somebody and then just say well, DJ and the oops,
I'm sorry, go be free. That's what John Hope Franklin said.
Mark can't just say oops, right, not just to us,
but to the genocide, because that toward First nation people.

(54:34):
You can't just say oops, you can't take and you
can't build an entire country on the backs of slavery
that was rooted in rooted in what we call bad biology,
and that is your skin color determines your brain size
six sociology, that is, black and white people can't be

(54:54):
together on the same level, at the same level of
humanity or evil. Economic that the end justifies the mean,
no matter what you do, as as long as somebody
makes money is all right. And then the last one
is heretical ontology, that is that God meant for it
to be like that. You can't build an entire economic
system and a country on top of that. And then

(55:15):
the end of it and the end of the gym
crow legal gem crow say oo's when you're still are
trapped in so many ways by systemic racism. Can't do that.
Politicians will be only as good as we make our
political system will be only as good as we make them.

(55:37):
And so that's why we can't even wait on them
to have an agenda to an agenda and then demand
that that agender be responded to it. And that's what
the Poor People's Campaign done. We don't just talk about
the numbers and the problem. For every problem we raise,
we have a solution. You can go to www. Poor
People's Campaign Dot organ is right there your listeners, and
you can join us on June twenty of twenty twenty

(55:58):
to hear it ten o'clock on every kind of social
media on the MSNBC is going to do a big
piece on it and let us use their entire so
media platform. We want people to tune in to hear
white people talking about racism, that people talking about economic
issues and telling their story and saying we are not

(56:22):
going to quit until all five systemic racism, systemic poverty,
ecological devastation, denial of healthcare, this war economy, and the
false maderna, the religious nationalism are addressed. These these things
have to be addressed. And if you are bothered by
what we do, remember that when a man is bleeding,
ambulance is run the light. And it's normal for an

(56:44):
ambulance to run the light. When folk as in trouble.
Doctor King said that, he said, and we need some
ambulance driver drivers now, some people who are willing to
refuse to obey the rules of It's all right, it's okay,
just wait and wait again. Too many people, too many
people are suffering. We must make our political system respond.

(57:05):
We must do it in our deepest mall and non.
I believe traditions, but it must not be weak. It
has to be strong, has to be a gender base,
it has to last for an election and beyond an election.
My brother, thank you, Mander, thank you for even having me. Doctor.
Don't don't be a stranger. I won't now next time.

(57:26):
I'm a little mad because y'all y'all didn't drop the music.
I guess you don't do it when you're taping season.
I won't get out here because like I am a preacher,
but you know I can still get down. You don't
trust the profit that can't dance. But you want to
hear pay so what you want to hear rap? Let
me see, let me see what I want to hear.
What I want to hear to say? Uh, fight the

(57:47):
powers that be, deal that takes away though? All right,
my brother, take care of Good Morning, Wanting. Everybody is
DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the
Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rum as. Let's talk
Lauren London team. This is the Rumor Report with Angela

(58:15):
Yee on the Breakfast Club. So Lauren London was on
a red table talk and just as a disclaimer, they
did record this prior to social distancing requirements and so
at the beginning Data had to give an updated introduction
talking about George Floyd and Madarberry, Brianna Taylor and then
she sat down with Lauren London and they talked about

(58:35):
the trauma of gun violence and how it affects women.
Now here's what Lauren London had to say about meeting
people who Nipsey Hustle changed their life. I love to
meet people that nip has like really inspired because it
feels like he's still here even though he is in
a way, but it's like his purpose that was completely
outside of any of us. His purpose he's touching people.

(58:58):
Still a fine that when I run into people that
tell me how he's changed your life. Now. She also
talked about raising black boys and having to prepare them
to interact with police officers. What I instill in them
is more about the police, how to handle yourself when
you get pulled over, right, That's more of my education. Yes,

(59:21):
protecting them being black men in America. How soon it's
too soon to have that conversation with your with your
young black young black boys, like when do your young
black boys go from being cute to being scary to
white America to It was funny a friend of mine
calling me yesterday and had that same conversation. It was like,
well when when when have you told your kids? And

(59:43):
I've said, uh, I think Logan was around thirteen when
we had that first conversation, and I think it was
around the same time one of his white friends called
him and um, but my six year old. I think
he's still a little innocent. He doesn't have to necessarily.
I don't want to put that stress on them right now.
When when it gets a little old, I think maybe

(01:00:04):
ten to eleven. But I don't hide it from him.
I don't hide the news from them. They watch the news.
They know about coronavirus, they know about COVID nineteen, they
know about George Floyd, so they do know what's going on.
But I haven't had that. There's a certain conversation yet,
It's just a rough conversation to have with kids, to
tell your kids that you will probably be treated differently
because of the color of your skin, Like you don't

(01:00:25):
know when to plant that seat, you know, you know, Yeah,
conversation all right. Lauren Lennon also talked to our Red
Table talk about advice that she can give to other
people who are coping with the loss of a loved one.
Here's what she said. For me, what's really been important.
It's like connecting with God, and that's been a struggle
because something horrible happens in your eyes and you're like,

(01:00:48):
how God? And knowing that there is life after this life.
It's not easy. I don't always wake up on the
enlightened side of the bed, you know, in the days
that I don't, I let myself because I'm human and
find things that matter, and so I'll try to live
with the purpose. Lord, have Mercymn prayers up for Lauren London.

(01:01:10):
Always always sending Lauren London positive energy, love and light.
Man r Ip Nipsey Nipsey Hustle. Absolutely, yes, a lot
of people are like man. We would love to hear
Nipsey's voice right now in particular right now all right,
So Calice has went on her Instagram page and she
also feels like the music industry, instead of just doing

(01:01:31):
a blackout Tuesday, should also help out black musicians. She said,
if the music industry wants to support black lives, labels
and platforms can start with the mending contracts, distributing royalties,
diversifying boardrooms, and retroactively paying back all of the black
artists and their families they have built their empires on
Erica bad doing a Zelia Banks also shared that message
as well, not a bad message, right, yeah, I agree

(01:01:54):
with that. She's right, it's it's it's not that it's
that the record label contracts have never been fair for
any artists. Correct know what I'm saying, period, But it's
you know, black artists have made these labels so much money,
so it's just like it's bad business. Rightly of the
record sold like a small percent, maybe a couple of
pennies for what they sell, which is ridiculous. Like artists happened.

(01:02:17):
I was on the road. That's why right now, artists,
a lot of artists are effed up. Don't get it
twisted don't get the show in cash and money and
all that on Instagram. Artists make their money majority of
them by doing shows and being on the road. The
fact that they can't be on the road and all
the streams that they're seeing, they're not getting a majority
of that money at all. And it's not right. Yeah,
always want to labels artists. I had a conversation with

(01:02:38):
an executive and what he was telling me was that
a lot of times when they do sign an artist,
and you know, it's a risk because most of the artists,
it's very small percentative artists that actually become stars. But
when that does happen, they do go back and renegotiate
a contract because they do want it to be more
fair to the artists, so that the original contract that

(01:02:59):
they sign, you know, they want to make sure that
they do more for them. And this executive also told
me that when they do it three sixty deals, a
lot of times they don't really cash in on like
the merchandise and the touring and all of that. I wonder.
I'm not saying it's completely fair, but I'm saying that's
you know, That's why I said, I don't know if
if if record labels, old artists, the old artists. Old

(01:03:23):
is a strong word because you signed the contract and
it is a business. At the end of the day,
it's just it's just bad business, and bad business are
just a record business. I don't know both both both both.
I mean, I think it is bad business, but I
do think it's a record business. But I think it
needs to change. And I'm hoping when we have people
in power like your jay Z's that owned Rock Nation,
that signs so all these artists, that's helping these artists

(01:03:44):
out or helping them to sign better deals, which they are,
and that's what you need to protect themselves too. Let's
be clear, they never artists to get got that got
got to to to change the situation, because there are
some artists who get a big chunk of money and
then they don't put duce and then the label has
to eat that also, all right, But so it always
will be a few artists that will keep a label afloat,

(01:04:05):
and then hundreds more of that end up being right off.
I guess all right, well, I mans you the yeah,
and that is your room of report, all right, thank you,
miss ye. Now, Charlomagne, whore you giving that donkey too.
We need New Orleans Saints Drew Breese to come to
the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a
world with him place waiting for this one. All right,
we'll get into that next. Keep a lot this to
breakfast club. Good morning, donkey at the dates you get Dunky,

(01:04:33):
you are, I'm gonna fatten all that around. You want
this man to Dolden blowers. Man, they're waiting for Charlomagne
to top these blows. Let's have to make a judgment.
Who was going to be on the Donkey of the day.
They chose you because the breakfast club, bitch, you use
donkey of the day to day. Donkey here today for Thursday,

(01:04:55):
June fourth, goes the New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Breese. Yeah,
the man and as is very very heavy on this sandwich. Okay.
I've been having a lot of conversations with my white
friends this week. They all want to know what to say,
how to say it in regards to not only the
Deafer George Floyd, but about their place on this planet
in general, you know, the whole white, privileged, white supremacist conversation.

(01:05:17):
And see, sadly, there's not a white person in America
who can say that at some point someone in their
family tree, someone and someone in their bloodline, their ancestors,
were part of the problem. Okay, the problem being white supremacy.
It is what it is. People, nothing to be ashamed of,
nothing to be embarrassed about, no matter how history books
attempt to sanitize it, no matter how sweet they try

(01:05:38):
to make it sound. All America was not built on
Christian values. Okay, like they try to sell it, all right,
please stop. Okay, America was built on the back of
slavery and racism. That's it, point blank period, pooh, all right.
Slavery was America's first big business. This country was founded
by old white men who were not attempted to make
this country all inclusive for everyone, especially black people. Okay,

(01:05:59):
we were property, like actual literal property. That's why we
got to constantly tell people black lives matter, because in
the Constitution it says black people were three fifths of
a person, the three fists rule. That's why we were
treated it's property. Okay, So that's why we got to
constantly remind you, no, I am actually a life, not
a piece of property. And to this day some still
look at us as as property. Okay, so yes, my

(01:06:20):
white allies, that's the harsh truth. If you are ready
and willing to start from that place, then we can
figure out how to dismantle this mechanism called white supremacy. Now,
in regards to speaking out, you shouldn't have to ask
me how to speak out for another human in regard
to their pain. Okay, if you are a spiritually conscious
person in any way, if you are just a human
being with empathy, when you saw that video at George Floyd,

(01:06:43):
you should have felt the way and whatever you felt,
express it. Okay. You don't need a black person's permission
for that. Okay, this is a matter, this is a
matter of race, but it's also just a matter of
being human. So if you want to do, if you
want to know what to do, it's simple, just stand
up for other humans. Sadly, some people just don't get it.
I'm not even mad at them for not getting it,

(01:07:04):
because we all live in on individual bubbles, and when
you are a white male, you definitely live in a
bubble because this system, for the most part, works perfectly
for you. Okay, this white supremacist system. Whether you are
prejudice bigoted, racist or not. Works great for most white
males because it was designed by white males, so it
was always going to be built in advantages, which is
why when someone like Drew Brees doesn't get it, it

(01:07:26):
doesn't surprise me at all. See. Drew Brees was giving
an interview with Yahoo Finance. During the interview, he was
asked his thoughts on the subject of players potentially kneeling
during the national anthem for the twenty twenty season. Let's
hear it. I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the
flag of the United States of America. Let me just
tell you what I feel when the national anthem is played,

(01:07:48):
and when I look at the flag of the United States,
I envision my two grandfathers who fought for this country
during World War Two, and in many cases, it brings
me to tears thinking about all that has been sacrificed,
not just those in the military, but for that matter,
those throughout the civil rights movements of the sixties and
everyone and all that has been endured by so many

(01:08:10):
people up until this point. And is everything right with
our country right now? No? But I think what you
do by standing there and showing respect to the flag
with your hand over your heart. Is it shows unity.
We can all do better and then we are all
part of the solution. Flag on the play. A violation
is the current illegal use of white privilege. Drew Brees

(01:08:31):
is marginalizing what black people are experiencing in this country
because he's seeing the world through the lens of the oppressor,
not the oppressed. I am happy that when Drew Brees
sees the flag of the United States of America and
his grandfathers who fought for this country in World War Two,
I'm glad he shed a couple of tiers. That's beautiful.
But Drew Brees, black people fought in World War Two.
But imagine fighting for a country that at that point

(01:08:53):
didn't even give you the same civil liberties that it
gave your grandparents. Drew Brees, do you know when the
US into World War Two, Jim Crow's segregation had it
entered every single aspect of American society. Do you know
that there were several segregated units in the military during
World War Two? So even though we're all supposed to
have a common enemy in a war, this country still

(01:09:14):
had us divided, Okay, still looked at us as an enemy.
This is why so many black folks have a problem
with patriotism. How can we salute a country that historically
enslaved us, marginalized us, it continues to brutalize us. See,
Drew Brees is a white privileged male. That's how he
sees America. Okay, it's all roses. He's living in his
life like it's golden. Okay, This white supremacist system works

(01:09:36):
well for him because it's supposed to. I am not
arguing with any white person about why people choose to
take a knee in regards to police brutality. There's nothing
to debate, Okay. If you don't get it by now,
you don't want to get it. And if you're committed
to misunderstanding the situation, whatever. Now I had a convo.
I did have a convo with my good brother Michael
Eric Dison this weekend drop on a clues bombs from

(01:09:58):
Michael Eric Dison music, explaining to me why you do
have to teach white people because whether you know it
or not, you are unintentionally teaching them, so you might
as well be intentional about teaching them. So I keep
that in mind at times like this, and I defer
to one of our greatest teachers killing Mike. He was

(01:10:19):
on with Jaalen and Jacobe and he had some lessons
for Drew Brees. Let's hear it. I would like to
know what he considered disrespect because and when I travel
and we perform in Germany, I never see a Nazi
flag because Nazis are a part of history that Germany
understands was a cancer and corrupt and they've grinted themselves up.

(01:10:39):
Drew Blees plays in the Deep South. As we traveled
through the South, we see the Confederate flag everywhere the bounds.
So if you're gonna tell me about flagging disrespecting the
American flag, the fact that you live in a region
that they still find a rebel flag in a Confederate
flag and you don't adambly speak against that on a
regular basis just tells me that you're protecting the lay
of life or what you think is right. The American

(01:11:02):
flag stands for the First Amendment and the ability to
say what you feel about situation. Now you bear the
brunt of that. You may get black ball out in
the NFL, but you have the right too. So if
you support and you don't want to see the American
flag disrespected. Don't look at it on buttweiser shorts at picnics,
don't look at it edit a bikini shots and Playboy.
Don't look at it on your favorite album covers because

(01:11:25):
you think that rock band is rocking for you, be
all the way with it. You're an intelligent football player.
But that was an incredibly stupid thing to stay. But
I'm not going to be so burdened with the religion
that has become American news and nationalism that I forget
that the flag represents the United States Constitution, and the
United States Constitution was written by a bunch of people
who chose to protest violently in order to have a friend.

(01:11:47):
So what you interpreted disrespect probably is the most patriotic
thing happening today. Just something to think about, something to
think about. Drew Brees. If I had a lesson for
Drew Brees, because I'm nowhere and his eloquent is killer Mike.
But if I had a lesson for Drew Brees, it
would be a simple homework assignment. And it's this. If
you don't understand why players kneil, if you don't understand

(01:12:09):
why players take a knee, then go watch the video
of that White Devil cop kneeling taking a knee on
George Floyd's neck for eight minutes and forty six seconds.
If you don't get it after that, well we might
just need you to shut the f up forever on
all issues regarding race in this country and sit the
rest of this season called life out. Please let Chelsea

(01:12:31):
Handler give Drew Brees the biggest he huh hee haw
hee haw. That is way too much, Dan Mann, Is
I wonder if he's going to address these statements now? Yes,
I'm yeah. I'm sure that he'll have an enlightening moment
and say that you know, he was taught so much
in the past twenty four hours. Yeah, I'm sure he will.
Us he kneeled before, Yeah he did. I don't know

(01:12:53):
if he was just doing that to be a good
teammate or he actually knew what was going on. Who knows?
All right, well, thank you for that donkey. Today. Now
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(01:13:35):
Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. It's time
to ask yee Hello. Who's this? Eric? Good morning? The
rouquestion for ye Hey, good morning, good morning. Hey, oh man.
First of all, I said, blackman, don't chea. That's right
all day. But your black fist in the king you
already know, man, it's already up there man making me

(01:13:55):
feel like you cheated. Oh boy, No, my wife okay,
she cheated on you. Yes, and it's been going on
for far too long. I'm tired of and none needs
some advice. I have seven year old and I told
my son that I would never leave him. And I'm
in a bad predicament because I have to leave my
wains because I'm tired of it. Well, you know, leaving

(01:14:16):
your work doesn't mean you're leaving your son, right right, right,
But my son is like he wants he wants me
to be right there with him. You know he want
me to help them with his homework. You want me
to be there, you know, to be the father sason
or not. You know, when I come home troun, you
better still be a father figure and still help him
with his homeworks. And I am, I am. I'm always

(01:14:38):
as far to favor always, I don't care if i'm
I could be in New York not New Orleans and
I still be the same fall of sucker. Right, So
how did you catch your wife cheating on you? How
do you know? I ever wis talking about my phone.
I'm in the bathroom. You know, he was in bathroom.
She sit in the room in the walls of the thing,
and she's on the phone and I hear I hear
talking to her dude and dude, I hear dude say,

(01:14:59):
well when, um, you know, when you go back to work.
This is no more than weekend, you know, And she
said Tuesday, I'd like to And I hear hustaid, well,
you know, be on time. So I'm like, all right,
So I guess something to go was to work, but
I don't go was to work. I go was fucking
a parking complax right behind mine. I said, I'm gonna

(01:15:20):
go to work late that day just to see and
before yeah, just that, just before, just before this happened,
like about two weeks before that, you know, because a
friend of mine, you know right now he's you know,
he's uh locked up right now for for doing something
to somebody that that um you know, one of his
spotns was sleeping with his wife while he was at

(01:15:42):
work while he was all shooting. He come home due
and he killed him to you know, like two weeks
before that, you know, he called me and gets some
contact with himself talking to him. You know, that's God
giving me a sign like thankful for you act. You know, Yeah,
I don't do nothing stupid. You don't want to end
up in jail. Did so? I did, think, you know,
I didn't even go in the house, but I saw it.

(01:16:02):
I saw to go in the house. Damn. That's tough
in your own house. That's disrespectful. Yeah, that's disrespectful. You know.
In mind my mind was like, well I was you know,
she just gotta go, she just gotta get out. So
what is it? So what happened? Did you confront them?
Did you go back home? Did you call it? Like?
What happened? Dude? People boy, Oh, it's your friend she

(01:16:23):
was cheating with. Yeah, so you confronted them. I confronted her.
I called him. I called him. I sitting there still
with mom. First thing he said was I was at work.
He don't go to work till one o'clock. And this
is at two o'clock in the morning. She just work.
You know, I'm like, man, come on, now, what did

(01:16:44):
your wife say when you confronted her. She tried to
say it like I didn't see nothing, Like I didn't
hear nothing on the phone, you know, And you know,
she tried to make it seem like I'm crazy. You know,
I'm trying to right. So yeah, definitely, yeah, one hundred
percent over at you ready to move on. I can't
blame you. She not only did she cheat, she also lied,

(01:17:05):
and she trying to act like you a food and
she cheated in the house, right And I'm trying to
tell you, you know, if you be honest, trying to
work it out. But she and your first thing, she saying,
ask the kids, I'm not putting the kids in my business.
And I'll think, yeah, no, don't do that. That's a
terrible advice. It sounds like you're very unhappy. You already

(01:17:26):
know what you want to do. You want to leave
this marriage. Your wife is still lying. I can't believe
that you had the willpower to not go in the
house after you saw him go in there, because I
definitely would have been right back inside. But kudos to you,
Like you said, you had a sign from God after
what happened with your friend who's in jail right now.
So you know that took a lot, and I commend
you for that. Yesterday I told yeah, still you still

(01:17:51):
want to talk too, dal till I hate talking to
like it. Yes it. She's talking to her And the
first thing she said, work, I'm going to call the police.
Wow at what we're going through right now. And that's

(01:18:12):
a terrible thing to say to you. Oh oh sorry,
real Tyrone. Listen you are Tyrone, Get your and get out.
That's all I have to say. So listen, I understand
your kid is the most important thing to you in
your life right now, so you need to make sure
that you handle them. I think you need to be

(01:18:34):
the one to initiate everything so that no matter what happens,
like she can't call the cops on you, you need
to go ahead and file for divorce so that it'll
be more favorable, and you're for the position that you're
in right now. And whatever you do, don't text or
email or write anything or make any cause that are
threatening in any way, so that you can make sure
that everything is straight and smooth with your custody of

(01:18:56):
your child and all of that, and get your own
place or she has to get her own place, whatever
y'all decide, But you do have to start making those
steps to get out of there and make sure that
your son knows this has nothing to do with him,
that you love him very much. And you're right when
you say keep the kids out of it, all right,
you know, so, thank y'all, and so what I mean,

(01:19:16):
your man, bro, I appreciate you. King listens to you. Man,
all right, man, take y'all have well. Go one ask
ye eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.
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(01:19:40):
are the Breakfast Club. Were in the middle of ask ye, hello,
who's this. What's up? Bro? What's your question for you?
My girlfriend we've been together about eight years now. There's
been no problems or nothing like the family. But since
all this Black Lives Matter stuff that has been going on,
and I've been to protest, been to bout five protests

(01:20:03):
in five days, and we blocked out there the head
mistake the other day, we were met with guns and
all that. So my girlfriend's grandmother decided to give us
a call and she's like telling us how she's disappointed
in us that we were in following the curfew rules

(01:20:23):
and we were on the highway blocking traffic, blah blah
black basically, you know, dismissing everything about like the cops
coming on the highway, you know, putting guns in our
face for no reason and a peaceful protest. And I'm
just like, I kind of got into it. What are
about it? And I'm warning I continue to educate her

(01:20:43):
about it, or try to educate her about it, or
should I like step back and take caution because it's
my girlfriend's grandma. I don't want to, you know, start
anything or me and my girl because grandma's school, you know,
uneducated about this. What is your girlfriend think about this? Well,
I mean she's a REMERSI she was a sheriff actually,
and she's with me in every march, Like you know

(01:21:05):
what I'm saying. She's screaming black power, she's swimming no justice,
no peace, she does videos and she's just her grandmother's
matter her because she's like, oh, you can lose your job,
blah blah blah blah blah blah. She's just like, well,
I mean, yeah, you're right, I can. But it's like,
I'm gonna do what's right. Right. Well, Listen, whenever people
are trying to have a revolution, there's always people who

(01:21:27):
aren't on board, right, who aren't gonna be agreeing with
the ways that you do things. And sometimes those people
are in your own family. And from my own experience
of having to deal with grandparents who were not like
that at all, you know, sometimes, first of all, I
would say, this is more of your girlfriend's situation because
it is her grandmother. So I don't want you and
your girlfriend to have issues because of that. And so

(01:21:48):
it feels like this might be something that she'll have
to deal with and you have to follow her lead
on that because it's her family. Yeah, because she's like
a real, like family person. That's why I like, I
wanted to, you know what I mean, educate her the more.
But I'm like, no, I don't have no trouble with me,
my girl. We haven't had trouble in a long time,

(01:22:09):
and I don't want to start right. I think you
and your girlfriend should have a conversation about how you
guys collectively want to handle it and if and I
think you should follow her lead on that. Now, if
this was your family, then I would say, you know,
that's up to you how you want to handle it.
You know your family, and I know it can be
really frustrating to have these conversations with people who are

(01:22:29):
set in their ways and aren't trying to hear what
you have to say. So you know, sometimes it is
a losing battle to have those arguments, and you still
have to keep going out there and doing the work.
But I don't want you and your girlfriend, who are
in accord right now, to have issues. So I would
let my girlfriend take the lead on this. Tell her, look,
this is your family, your grandmother. However you want to
handle it, I want to respect that, and I'm always

(01:22:51):
down to have respectful conversations, but that is your grandmother,
so it's kind of more on her. I just still
like when I go around now, it's gonna be like different,
Like you know what I'm saying, because when I first
when I first met them, I don't talk as they
would say, you know, black quote unquote. I talk intelligence

(01:23:15):
and I And when I first met they told me like,
oh people say that, yeah exactly. So I know when
I go to her house for the next family is
and or whatever, it's gonna be like really awkward. And
so I'm just I just feel like we need to
have a conversation. But at the same time, like I said,

(01:23:37):
it's my girlfriend's family, so I'm just back the bullet
and see what she's gonna be like that she should
have a conversation with them without you there also, you know,
and try to have that conversation on her end. But
like I said, you know, if that means, I'm going
to support my girlfriend, but I'm not really trying to
engage in too much conversation. Yeah, you know, it's sometimes

(01:24:00):
it's really hard to try to force people to understand
things that they don't want to understand. Yeah, that's true,
but we appreciate you, and you keep on doing what
you have to do and you and your girlfriend and
don't let things like this cause a wedge in your relationship.
I even felt like, if I need to just kind
of fall back and stay away from them, I will,
you know, but you can't ever force people to understand something.

(01:24:21):
All you can do is engage in the conversation, and
it can be too frustrating for you two at times.
You've made the attempts. Well, I definitely appreciate that you
just made it made it clear for me that I'm
doing the right thing when it comes to this right now, Yeah,
you did your part. Yes man, All right, take care

(01:24:42):
of time. I want to tell y'all three thank you
because I work and I'm driving all day and you
guys help us get through the day right or at
least the morning. Thank you for listening. You know, we family,
so we appreciate you. Ask Ye eight on dread five
A five one on five, and if you need relationship
advice to any type of advice, you can call ye.

(01:25:03):
Now we got rumors on the way, yes, and we
are going to talk about Trina and some remarks that
she made on her show earlier. This week, and we'll
tell you the back and forth that happened on social
media as a result of it. All right, we'll get
into that next keeping lock this the Breakfast Club, Good morning,
the Breakfast Club. Listen, it's just oh gosh, got angel

(01:25:27):
and it's the rum of report Breakfast Club. So Trina
was turned in yesterday and those are because of the
comments that she made on her morning show when she
was talking about the protesters in Miami. Now, she was
upset about her friend's business being destroyed. She was upset
about people dying and lives that have been taken away.
And here's what she had to say about the protesters.

(01:25:50):
They gin, if you make the curfew and fix PM
to fix them, that's how I feel. No, keep everybody
off the street, these animals off the streets that are
running around in Miami Day County acting like there have
escaped from a zoo. Locked him up at five PM
so the streets could be nice and clean. That's how
I feel. Lives, all right, the black lives that matter, right,

(01:26:10):
the same black lives that I take it from the
hands of other black people that was up that was
matter two times all y'all fake. But the protests and
the fake Oh we're so concerned about George Poyd go
on marching. I don't even care about this man, people.
I just dormed the wall every body. Everybody wanted to look,
getting burning up and stuff. When the ponies getting behind
you and the ram and blue lights come home. You're

(01:26:32):
not supposed to be scared. You never scared. I have
my life of the registration and assurance. I'm not scared, Okay, Trina.
I don't agree with nothing you're saying, but I like
the energy you just say that like that, like you
she got me, I don't. She got me? Am I
want to I want to scream now. I got time today,
But I got time today, damnage? All right, all right?

(01:26:54):
And then she had it back and forth after that
on social media with Messica. You know Mesica from loving
her pop and you know, Messica was saying that she
needed to come to the front of the congregation basically,
and she asked Kaye to come and drag this coon
Trina back to the swamp before I get her, and
then the two of them had a really nasty back
and forth on social media. Trina told Messica first of all,

(01:27:16):
bumass find out who your baby daddy really is, and
she told her, and you don't know what the f
you are talking about. You think you can come up
here and talk is to me, you scumbag. You can't
how I'm ready and I'm not the one. And then
Trina told her, but first of all, that video was
edited to what I said. Second of all, if you
don't know the exact facts, stfu. If you want answers
of clarification, say that. But you will not think you

(01:27:38):
come up here and talk ish about me, because you can't.
And things really spiraled after that. Messica told her, pull
up okay as a coming, let me book this fight
so I can fight your dumbass way. Trina, you're acting
like an animal, don't you dear quote Rihanna or an
actual activist who pulls up? Girl? The world cloud wasn't
even the world cloud wasn't even inventive when you were relevant.
Take your afternoon nap and she will so called her, Karen,

(01:28:02):
you take an afternoon nap. I can hear it right now,
go ahead. I didn't like the afternoon nappart afternoon nap,
afternoon after great effect it. I was all of that
in capital letgy I know, but some of it was Ah,
it was in capitals, all right, But yeah, it went
on and on and on from there. And I'm gonna

(01:28:22):
be honest, I did not like seeing these two women
going at it like that on social media, with the
world weighing in and speaking to each other in that way. Now,
this morning, Traina did get on the radio and apologize.
Here's what she said. Me and my trainers were, I'm
automatically speaking for black people. I am the black people.
I am black people. That's why I'm speaking for and
I'm not gonna say black people are animals. And this

(01:28:44):
is why the day after where we spoke to the commissioner,
I said to Trick, well, I learned a lot more
about what's really happening. And it's more than just in
the streets of people, you know, doing whatever. It's it's commissioners,
it's the governor's to me, it's all these people, it's
the chief of police. I had no idea of that,
So now I'm understanding that, and these are the people
that has to protect the CDs. No, I don't like

(01:29:06):
that energy training. I want I need that hand clapp
and I got time to day energy. I don't like
that little docile apology energy. I don't like that. Well,
she's explaining herself. She's explaining herself with what she met.
Sometimes when we get upset and we get mad, things
come out of our mouth that we could have said differently,
and maybe that's what she's clearing up. Well, listen, apologies

(01:29:27):
are always great when you know you're wrong. There's nothing
wrong with acknowledging that wrong, but it's just backlash apologies.
I don't like backlash apologies. I don't like apologies that
when you know people have been coming at you, you're like, okay,
I'm sorry now. Well, she did say she had conversations
with local officials and they did educate her on some things.
So you know, it is a big to be able

(01:29:49):
to apologize and admit that you were wrong and have
these conversations with people, you know. I still don't really
like the dragging of people like that on social media,
and I am all for educating. I love training it though.
I just don't know what she thought was wrong in
that situation, you know what I'm saying, Like, you have
to know why people are protesting, you know, you have
to know why they're angry, even when it comes to

(01:30:10):
the looting. You may not like it, but you know,
you don't got to call them animals. It's not like
they just out there doing that for no reason. It's
a reaction to, you know, black people getting killed in
this country at the hands of the police over it. Yeah,
but she's seen it from a different side, I'm sure,
and that doesn't make it right. She's seen it from
the side one of her best friends owns a clothing
store or a store, and you know, everything that she

(01:30:30):
worked for they pretty much took. So that's what she
was saying. I think material Yeah, I get it, but
it's material things and property that can't take place. Insurance
you can't you know, fix it. And there's a lot
of things that led up to this. So uh, And
this is an ongoing conversation because there's a lot of
people who have felt like that, and I see a
lot of people expressing themselves in that way and wondering

(01:30:51):
why are people are protesting, why are they doing this,
why are they going after target I see people saying
this all day long, up and down the timeline. So
I build those buildings will be back, those black bodies won't,
all right, And now another person who actually had to
roll back what he said was Drew Brees. He made

(01:31:12):
some comments about NFL player protests, and he was asked
about whether or not he thinks players will be kneeling
during the national anthem when football resumes. And here's what
Drew Brees said. I will never agree with anybody disrespecting
the flag of the United States of America. Let me,
let me just tell you what I feel when the
national anthem is played, and when I look at the

(01:31:32):
flag of the United States, I envision my two grandfathers
who fought for this country during World War Two? And
is everything right with our country right now? No, we
still have a long way to go. But I think
what you do by standing there and showing respect to
the flag with your hand over your heart, is it
shows unity. It shows that we are all in this together,
we can all do better, and then we are all

(01:31:54):
part of the solution. Well, of course, those comments cause
a huge amount of backlash from other NFL players, players
on his own team, from everybody, Lebron James, you know,
Stephen Jackson. Now Drew Brees has posted. First, he posted
a picture of a black and white hand interlocked, and
then he said, I would like to apologize to my friends, teammates,

(01:32:16):
the city of New Orleans, the black community, NFL community,
and anyone I hurt with my comments yesterday, And speaking
with some of you, it breaks my heart to know
the pain I have caused. So he said he wants
to talk about respect, unity and the solidarity centered around
the American flag and the national anthem. And he made
comments that were insensitive and completely missed the mark on
the issues we are facing right now as a country.

(01:32:37):
They lacked awareness and any type of compassion or empathy. Instead,
those words had become divisive and hurtful, and I had
misled people into believing that somehow I am an enemy.
This could not be further from the truth and is
not an accurate reflection of my heart or my character.
And then he talks about where he stands with the
black community and the fight against systemic racial injustice and
police brutality, and he said support the creation of real

(01:32:59):
policy change that will make a difference. He also condemned
the years of oppression. I mean it goes on. So
you know I gave donkey. I gave him donkey to
day to day, and Donkey that day still stands. I
wonder if he's ever spoken out against a police officer
killing a black man. You know, you know how that's
so quick to be like, you shouldn't disrespect the flag,

(01:33:20):
and you know the flag means something. I wonder if
he's ever had that same energy for you know, a
police officer killing an unarmed black man, as he ever
jumped out there and said, you shouldn't kill anar black people,
you shouldn't kill black people, you know what I mean.
I wonder, But you know he's he's he's knelt with
his teammates before and just reading his comments, you see that.
You know some of the people that that follow him. Uh,

(01:33:41):
you know, you don't have to apologize, you were right.
Don't apologize now that was just your opinion. You know,
there's a lot of people that believe in what he said,
which which I don't understand. I really don't. And and
by the way, putting the black hand shaking the white hand,
that's the whitest apology in the world. Like I would
rather you put cream vanila ice cream and chocolate ice cream. Yeah,

(01:34:06):
I would rather you put vanilla ice cream and chocolate
ice cream. Oh my goodness, Like that had that handshake
look crazy. All right, well, we'll see you what happens next.
And that was very well crafted as like more of
a press release. Damn man, I just don't end the black.
The black and white hand shap looked like the beginning
of a purp at stupid. All right, well, let me

(01:34:28):
answer the yee and that is your room of report.
All right, thank you, miss ye revolt. We'll see you
guys tomorrow. Everybody else to People's Choice mixes up next,
get your request in. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, putt,
DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlotmae, nic Gay. We all the
Breakfast Club. We have a special guest on the line,
Deanna Williams. Welcome. Good to be here with you and

(01:34:48):
v Angela and Charlotte Maine. Now, Deanna Williams, I know
this is an important time because we have so many
things to talk about, but it is also Black Music Month,
something that you actually was one of the architects of.
So let's talk about that, yes, Angelo. Nineteen seventy nine,
President Jimmy Carter hosted the first June Black Music Month

(01:35:08):
event at the request of the Godfather, Clarence Avant and
some other prominent people in the industry. But the co
founders of this period of time are multi Grammy Award
winning songwriter, producer Kenny Gamble, broadcaster Edwright, myself, and members
of the Black Music Association. And it's the forty first

(01:35:29):
anniversary of June Black Music Month. Tell us ab important Black? Absolutely,
it's very important because the music industry generated twenty billion
dollars last year. And when you look at the top
of the charts right now, at the top of the
one hundred list of top selling records, eight of those

(01:35:51):
top ten records are by Black artists. You guys know
that hip hop is the number one genre around the world,
not just here in America, but all over the planet.
So what does that tell us? Black people are making
and selling a ton of music, and that's important because
it's our culture and it's indigenous to America. You talk

(01:36:13):
about those billions of dallas, you know, I think a
lot of it is not trickled down to the artists.
A lot of us is not trickled down to the producer.
A lot it's not trickled down to the actual singer,
which is very, very sad. You know, people are making
billions of dallars and they're artists there that are still struggling,
losing their homes, losing their cars, and that have sold
millions of millions of records. That's that's the horrible thing

(01:36:34):
about that. That's been going on for a long time,
which is why as a proud member of the National
Museum of African American Music based in Nashville, we will
be opening September twenty twenty. It is an institution designed
to highlight the contributions of black folks in this country
from the sixteen hundreds onto now. But we are also

(01:36:56):
fighting for artists to get more, not just artists, reducers, engineers,
music makers in general to get a larger piece of
this twenty billion dollars. And and be back to your
question about why is June Black Music Month important, Well,
this is a multibillion dollar business. One we don't tend
to think of our music that way, but it is.

(01:37:17):
It's created by black people, it's co opted and imitated
by others, and we appreciate the compliments, but we want
to be able to economically participate in all of these
billions of dollars. And I might add it's the everyday
man and woman who's enriching the coffers of those major
record companies. We want our fair share. So the museum

(01:37:40):
is a repository. We have over seven galleries of beautiful
information artifacts about our contribution. Our contributions keep getting overlooked
Black folks. We were forced immigrants to this country and
music is what we use to soothe us in this
terrible you know, situation where we were taken from our

(01:38:03):
original homes in Africa, brought over here and free labor
for four hundred years. So what you hear in our
music is passion, it's joy, it's pain, and it's our
soundtrack every day. Think about how much music you consume.
First of all, let me also just say that June
Black Music Month is an opportunity to celebrate the three

(01:38:23):
of you. You are promoters of the culture. Think about
how much music you've played amby in your career. Absolutely okay.
You play music that can elevate the spirits of people,
and we use it to get us through hard times,
good times, turn up, fall in love, fall out of love.
Music is intricral to our survival in this country. You

(01:38:44):
know what else, though, it is fascinating to me, and
we're gonna I want to talk more about the museum,
and I do, of course, I want to talk more
about black music man, how you actually got this legislation
pass because I read about how you had never done
anything like this before, and I know a lot of
us right now feel really powerless as far as what
can we do in our government to make things happen,
you know, to create change. And so can you discuss

(01:39:06):
how that actually happens, because I don't think people understand
the process of how you can initiate that and actually
bringing out some type of change. Oh well, I appreciate
you sharing that. Okay. So nineteen seventy nine, President Jimmy
Carter hosting this big event that on the lawn of
the White House. It had been done by the Country
Music Association in years earlier, but then he said June

(01:39:26):
is Black Music Month. This was at the encouragement of
the Black Music Association. Well, fast forward to when President
Clinton was in office. I wrote him and asked him
to host a similar event. Well, the White House came
back and said, well, we've gone through the archives and
we see where President Carter declared June black Music Month.
But go get us some legislation. Come back, President Clinton

(01:39:50):
will sign a proclamation and we'll celebrate June Black Music
Month officially from the perspective of the White House and Congress.
So I put on my most comfortable pair of shoes
and started walking office to office on Capitol Hill, knocking
on people's doors, writing letters. We just really worked hard.
And I don't want to take the credit alone, because

(01:40:11):
again there were group of people, but I was out
in the front pushing. And finally the legislation. I wrote
the draft for it. They put all the ware as
and it got passed, and then I was in and
out of the White House, private meetings in the Oval
Office for President Clinton, President George Bush, on and on,
and that's basically the story of June Black Music Month.

(01:40:35):
But we're in our forty first year, and again I
want to stress that it's an economic engine, and it's
our American soundtrack. It's how we get up in the morning,
it's how we function through the day. And now, as
we see American cities and international capitals supporting our efforts
here in America against police brutality, music has always been test.

(01:41:00):
Music has always been at the forefront of our endeavors
here in this country. And it's no different right now.
So as the co chair of the Music Industry Relations
Committee and on behalf of Henry Hicks, who is the
CEO of the museum, we're taking a strong scand in
solidarity with people who are protesting around the world about

(01:41:21):
the injustices of racism. Part of what the birth of
black music in this country was born out of the
cruelty of racism. So long answer to your short question,
but that's how the legislation got passed and it has
been celebrated by every American president since and again, if
people want to become part of our movement and support

(01:41:41):
they can do so by joining go to Black Music
Museum dot com and happy birthday June black music must
one years young, but anyway years and we're gonna have
you and Henry Hickson as closer to when the museum
is going to open so we can make sure we
really ramp that UPPs, thank you so much for your support.
I really appreciate it. Support you. Thank you all right,

(01:42:05):
Thank you Diana Williams for joining us. Now, Charlemagne, you
got a positive note, yes man for everybody out there
that's a you know, doing a little so we y'all
don't have to do a lot. I just want you
to know that act as if what you do makes
a difference, because it does. Breakface Club, this is you all.
Finish with y'all, doune

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