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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yep, World More Dangerous Morning Show to Breakfast Club, Charlamagne
the God just hilarious, envious. Off the day, we got
a special guest in the building, mister Shamik Moore's hell, yeah,
how you doing, brother?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm good, I'm good. How you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm good? Are you? And just related?
Speaker 4 (00:14):
We could have been, I mean because he because he
find and I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So you are the blood are you from?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Where are you from?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Smik?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm from. My family's from Jamaica.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I was raised in Atlanta, Okay, okay, okay, so no
connections to Maryland.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Okay, but but I might have family and where you
say your family's from Jamaica.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Yeah, you know, you know what my family is too.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
They might be why why I don't know why tell
that lie? For no reason? I mean just for no reason?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Because it failed to.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Be back on Spider Man like to be doing it again.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
Uh you know, now I'm twenty eight, I feel like
it's a I'm understanding the phrase with great power comes
great responsibility.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm that's that came from Uncle Ben.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
Yeah, they came from Uncle Been. But you know, Miles
is wearing the mask right now, so it's it's hitting
me in a different way in my reality. I'm very thankful.
I'm just I'm just happy to be useful in that way.
For uh, I have nephews that can't watch anything I'm
in except Spider Verse, you know what I mean. So
(01:19):
that's it expands my reach.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And yeah, just I'm taking the opportunity very seriously.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I love the Spider Verse movies.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I often wonder though, like you know, with with with
Miles Morales come into the actual m see you do
you feel like, yo, I should.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Have that role. I mean you're not. You're not entitled
to anything.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm not way anything. I'm gonna stay humble, but absolutely
I'm putting in my work in my work.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So have you auditioned?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I don't think they're in a space to audition.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
I think right now, Sony Marvel, whoever's in control, you know,
they have they have a franchise, is making money. They
have Miles Morale is the story, they have Tom Holland's story.
You know, It's like it's like, if both things are working,
why stop the revenue?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know?
Speaker 6 (02:10):
So, but when it's time to make that crossover, hopefully
I'm in a place where where the people watching the
film support the idea.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Let me plain that, do you like doing animated films
more than live extra films?
Speaker 6 (02:25):
I think the conjunction is a nice space, you know.
I think if I was just doing animation, I wouldn't
be fulfilled, not even a little bit. But a movie
like this is definitely fulfilling because of how I mean,
it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Scary, even the idea.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Of like where AI is right now and where it's going,
and then how good animations are becoming. Like this movie specifically,
there's some moments Daniel Caluia has a spider person in
this movie called Spider Punk, and when that character is
the screen, it's like it almost looks real, like it's freaky.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It's freaky. So yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Leaves you not feeling fulfilled about animation is the fact
that people.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Don't know it, might not know it's you.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
I think I think that might have something to do
with it. I think I like to see I am fulfilled.
Don't get me wrong, my I mean, I don't think
I've been compensated as well as I have for Spider Verse.
I don't think again it has the reach. You know,
I'm more that's my biggest role right now. You know,
(03:31):
so I am fulfilled. Like, let's be clear, I'm thankful.
I'm humbled by the opportunity, especially now more than you
know our second interviews, Like now it definitely means something
more to me, and I'm understanding what the opportunity is.
But I enjoy the experience looking at myself on the
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get down, you know, or on.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Dope or wu tang. I like that, you know. I
like that.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
So if you just do animations, it does kind of
like limit your range because you're not being seen. But
then also yeah, yeah, you're not being seen, you're just
being heard, but you and there's so many things that
you can do like wow, crazy characters and.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
You can kind of you can go over the top
of animations.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
But we don't get to see your range visually when
it comes to that. So I get what you're saying.
I get what you're saying about that. Working with Daniel
Kluia and Sato, Yeah yeah, how's that?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Ooh?
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I love doing press with them, you know why I
throw in the shades. I get busy with my fits
ye like, and there's no there's no I just like
that energy that get to come out when I'm next
to like when I'm next to them, but I love
Don't get me wrong, It's not I'm not really a
I'm a I'm all about humanity and its entirety.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So I'm not.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
I'm not somebody that's like, you know, us over them
or I really think I think it's it's a together thing.
So when I but I'm acknowledging when I'm next to
you know, another guy, you know what I mean, and
I can appreciate their greatness, you know, and their beauty
(05:08):
just shines through and I'm next to them, and it's
not no like you versus me energy.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It's just like, dang, we got a Spider.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Man movie coming out, Like yeah, it's projected at this
much like they're talking about one hundred and ten million
possibly in the.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
First two days. Like that's to me them numbers. I'm
when I'm twelve, I couldn't even imagine, like you know.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
So I wish that you're getting though. That's the conversation, bro.
You know what I'm saying because I heard you say
that earlier. You don't feel like you're being compensated. No,
I am being compensated like you should be. Probably now
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I don't think I get five percent of that type
of money.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You know what you say, you want some back in
what you say.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You know, one step by one step by the time.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
I don't know, you know, But Patrick, I made these
deals when I was twenty one. I'm twenty eight. I'm
being well taken care of. But you know, it's about
infrastructure and building something and being an example at this point.
And I'm very like I said, I'm just excited to
be in this position more than anything.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Do you get excited when you see those big numbers?
Because the first movie did what four.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Hundred three hundreds? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, And when you see that, you like you look
at your check and be like, well, what's up man.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Because you're excited for the movie, but you'd be like.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
A million exactly.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
So I think I'm inspired because like I get to
work with Chris, Phil Kemp, Bob and all the you know,
I get to I get to have conversations and dinners
and and I'm a part of the process. I'm learning,
you know, even working with Baz learning on the get down.
It was the same thing, same thing with Dope, working
with phar Real and et cetera. Like them, I get
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to learn, you know, and I'm making money, more money
than my family was bathing with buckets in Jamaica. You
know what I'm saying. I grew up in La Thronia, Georgia.
I used to have two pairs of sneakers like this. That's,
you know, the kind of money like we can get.
We can we can really have a financial converse because
I am That's where I'm at in my mind. But
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as far as me feeling like I'm not being taken
care of, I couldn't. I could never say that because
you know, my life is good. I can't hold you.
But when when I'm able to see like Okay, SONY
made X, Y and Z, my mind can be like
I know how to I know the formula, you know,
So when it's so as I'm developing my production company
(07:24):
and my own films and et cetera, I can kind
of it. I understand the equation better. And I can
only do that by paying attention and staying in my
lane and being thankful for the opportunities. You know, I
would never go to nobody like no, I need this,
this this right now. You know, I am the actor,
and not only that, my brand is expanding.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I am good where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I wonder if the respect is there.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean, of course, I'm sure it is from Sony,
but what do they feel like I can get anybody
to do the voice of like I'm talking about in
voice acting period of the respect there?
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I mean, yeah, I carry myself in a way that
creative person is gonna like. I'm a creative you know.
So you know the people in charge, they they're not
They're nothing but loving. And you know I wouldn't have
the role if they didn't connect to or respect me.
I mean, they're you know what I mean, people auditioned
(08:16):
for to play Miles Morales. You know what I'm saying,
that are more successful than me at the time or
now you know what I'm saying, or parents are more
or born into.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It or whatever. Like it feels like I was bitten
by that spider in real life.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
You know, did you see doctor youmar On? I g
telling everybody not to go see the movie because Black
Spider Man is interested in the snow Bunny.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
No, I didn't see that.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah read it, Yeah, go ahead, I got it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I got it right here. If you need me to
read it to you, hold on. I have they never
have no problem reading good old doctor Umar, this is
this is.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
A real thing. What you think we make them? Totally
thought you was making this up.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I actually loved that though.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I thought we was past this, that we just passed
this entirely.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You know what I'm saying, jungle fever.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I just saw this Black Spider Man cartoon trailer and
it appeared that Spidey is crushing up on his snow
bunny sidekick. Please don't tell me our children are going
to go through the movies just to see a black
superhero bunny hopping on the big screen. Can someone confirm
if these two are romantically involved?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You know what I can confirm.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
I can confirm that this story is about why we
wear that mask, you know, and it's bigger than just
the Spider.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You can look at it as a.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
You can look at it as like Spider Man, but
I relate everything to my reality. You know, that mask
for me could be basketball, it could be acting, it
could be you know, having your own radio show or
whatever it is. So these characters are looking past.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That mask, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Gwen and Miles are representing something that's bigger. They're representing humanity.
Their specific story is about spiders and their superhero lives
and whatever. But in this film we get to see
like it's bigger than that, you know, and it's hard
to really like, I know, because I've walked the black
experience where doctor Umar is coming from and the key
(10:12):
key about it amongst us or whatever. But like you know, brother,
I mean, look out, this is unity, you know what
I'm saying that the world that we live in, the
world that we walk in, especially in New York, it's
not just black, it's not just white, it's not just agent.
It's a mixing pot. And that's why this movie is special.
That's why the kids are gonna go watch it. Yeah,
because because it's about it's about writing your own story.
(10:34):
It's not about somebody telling you, you know, how your
story is supposed to go and what's acceptable, like live
your life like that mindja business. You know what I'm saying,
what you look like telling people not to go watch
a movie about about loving yourself and loving those that
love you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
And having a future.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And and.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Then it's Spider Man like, look at where we at right.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Now, let's talk the listen, we can't talk about inclusion
and diversity and progress and then get mad when we
get it. You know what I'm saying, like, Yo, let's
talk about if we want, you know, some beautiful black
love story animations and et cetera. Cool that this movie
allows that to happen. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I could go make something else, Doctor Umar can write something.
(11:21):
You know what do you that would be? You know
what I'm saying, like, let's talk about original IP. That's
where diversity is going. That's where inclusivity is going.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You know. Right now I'm playing Spider Man, like, how
dare you?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
And that's really really big and I love it. Before
you get out of here, when are we getting the
fashion line? Because yeah, you with this style, that's what
you really really love fashion.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
You love what you say left fashion.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You have your own style and it's very dope and
very you. And it could it could result in the line.
It could translate in the line what you're thinking.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Uh, that was the that's a part of the goal,
a part of my life next five years and whatnot.
But I don't really want anybody to know it's my line.
I think it could get in the way of it.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
But I got you.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
I think as people are wearing it. Eventually I revealed
some of the things that are my businesses that are
prospect you know, prospering.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Oh you gotta line out now we work.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I could just see it anyway. I didn't even know
that he did, but I could just see it because
his style is always different and just unique, you know
what I mean. So I can see that for you.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
How hard is it for the show up nowadays? Without
the mask on?
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Without the mask on, I feel like one of my
superpowers is vulnerability.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I don't I don't know that I have on a
mask right now.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Answered every question you just asked me with complete heart
and transparency.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You know.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yeah, I think relatability is the real Uh it's the
real task for me though, you know. That's where that
Matt like how I communicate certain thoughts or how I
communicate communicate with my energy and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think the rest to though, because you got you
have to accept that you're different, like we all have
to accept where different.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
So how what is relatability really? You know?
Speaker 6 (13:09):
To me, it's like it's how I say things like
I could be very our last interview is a great example,
very confident.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know, I'm raised that way.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You know, they hate it. I remember that they hate you.
They thought you was too cocky.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
But they loved it.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
They you look back, everything they hated then they loved
afterwards when they saw the work. You know what I'm saying.
So I leave it at that. But that's my point.
I could have spoke differently. I can feel how I
feel about myself. But it's growth, it's growth evolution.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know how you feel about the Wu Tang saga being.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Over, thankful, ready for the next step?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Right, how was the film in the last season. I
feel like y'all put a button on it the right way.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Yeah, Like I'm you know, me and Og we connected,
We locked in. You know, we got other stuff, you
know on the table. He's yeah, that's my that's like
literally my mental or like uncle whatever. Like he you know,
he's coming to the Spider Man premiere, leaving Australia just
to fly to the premiere, make sure he there and
(14:08):
whatnot for me.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So like that's that's the kind of that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
It's like that name has been introduced to a whole
new generation now because you got you with the Wu
Tang Saga.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Rihanna and a just named their kid.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Would you rather do a sequel to Dope or another
season to get Down?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
What would you rather do?
Speaker 6 (14:33):
I would probably I think at where I'm at right now,
I would do Dope because the get Down is like more.
I think I can go more into like a nerdy
roll and show some more range. Right now, I think, yeah,
I could do that on camera. Do something more lighthearted?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Is that something you want to do? You want to
do like a with a drama or something.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Oh I need a romance film. I need a horror film.
I need a detective film. I need a superhero live
action film. Uh yeah, those are my four right now. No,
I definitely see I just did a comedy, so that's
you know, on this way.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Because I want to see another Dope.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh you want to see another?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Want to?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
But I was coming, I was building up, damn. But yes,
I would love to see and be in Dope.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Word. Did you try off with Dope to the first one?
For the first one?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I did?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I don't yo, yo, you know what, because.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Like we will have actors up here, and I think
I'm doing too much by saying that I'm always auditioning
because I ain't really getting nothing.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
And that's you know, you have.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No one that's been up here.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I ain't got none of the ones that I think
I should stop saying that your audition for that, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I grew up like that. I might do one hundred
auditions that year and get to.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Get you know what I'm saying, And sometimes for me
it gets It can be discouraging, you know a lot
or whatever, but I just you know, I just keep on.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
But it's good.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
That's why I love to sit down with you know,
the use and you know, just to see how y'all
handle things like that. Like but I just heard you
say you do one hundred and you get to you know.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I one thing I have, I have a issue or
something I'm overcoming, is just rejection in general. You know
what I'm saying, giving myself up, doing my best and
it's up to someone else to determine whether or not
I'm good enough.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
That's why I've.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
It's like, when I get the opportunity, my soul goes
into you know what I'm saying, so that I do
get other people in the positions of you know, I
guess power and acting or or you know, producing films
or etcetera to want me, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So yeah, that would be my my only thing.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
When you you know, get a role that you're happy with,
just really like like really really go there.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So it's just people calling your phone.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
That doesn't determine whether you're good or not, though I
know that. I mean, yeah, yeah, just wasn't the person
that for that moment. That's right, that's right on.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Both of which y'all said with you for real, But yeah,
you have to really give your all in these rules.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
That's that's that's.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
A real make that for you, Meek.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I ain't mean that for you when I said that
university University.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Should more appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Man, Spider Man across the Spider Verse, what is it
the Theatis June second?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
June second. It's to meet more as the Breakfast Club