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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The breakfast Club morning.
Everybody is deej Envy Charlamagne the guy. We are to
breakfast Club. It's time for some front page news this morning, though,
we got Tamika Mallory on the line.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Good morning, Tamika, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Not just on the line, Tamika's on the front lines.
Tamika is back in Kentucky, Kentucky. That's right. Why is
our good sister, Tamika Mallory back in Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Well, you know, we made a commitment three years ago
to Brionna Taylor's family that we would not just come
out in protest, but that we would continue to work
with the community through all the phases. And we're in
a second phase, if you will, or another phase of
the fight for justice for her and the community, which
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is to stop the man who was the special prosecutor
on the case, who should have secured indictments for the.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Officers who killed Brianna Taylor.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
He is the attorney general, the current attorney general of
the state of Kentucky. His name is Daniel Cameron, and
he is now running for governor, which means he would
receive a promotion for not doing what's necessary to bring
justice to this community and to this family. He has
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been very clear that he is a police guy. He's
in fact a black man who is very much so
in support of the police. He is endorsed by Donald Trump,
is something that he uses all over in his campaigns,
you know, ads for his race. He is very close
to Mitch McConnell and in many ways the scene as
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a potential successor to Mitch McConnell here in the state
of Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And if you look.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
At his policies, how he wants to be tough on crime,
which is usually a dog whistle for locking up black
and brown folks and not really trying to provide us
with the resources that we need. You know, he's a
pretty dangerous guy. I would say that he's like the
black cousin of Ron DeSantis, who is the governor of Florida.
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And so we are back in Kentucky from now until
November seventh, when his election will happen. Ensuring that people
are one registered to vote and two that they are
very clear about who they're voting for and what this
man is capable of. One of the things in his
twelve point plan that he wants to do if this
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helps to sort of draw a picture or paint a
picture of who he is, is to get rid of
civilian complaint review boards. He wants to stop the civilians
from having the authority to sanction police officers when they
do something wrong. Right, he's talking about giving the death
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penalty to offenders. He is a very very dangerous man,
and his policies are policies that you're trying to move
away from, and so we don't want him to be
So you know, I have the.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Personal vendetta because of his behavior.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
And the Brionna Taylor case, but his policies are also
very dangerous. And the last thing I'll say is, you know,
if there are some people who believe that we as activists.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And organizers, we just always don't like someone.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
But if you go back and look at the time
when the grand jury had been and paneled and they
were meeting in terms of whether they would bring charges
for Brianna Taylor, one of the things that happened at
that time was that after it was over, Daniel Cameron
came forward and said that those jurors did not find
charges for the officers for Brionna Taylor.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Specifically.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
In fact, the only charge that came out of that
grand jury was a bullet going through the wall and
how it could have potentially hurt someone on the other side.
The jurors came forward, at least three of them. They
came forward and said that they had never been presented
with charges for Breonna Taylor, that they waited.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Until the end.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
They thought they would hear about Brionna Taylor, but they didn't.
So therefore Daniel Cameron live. So not only is he
bad on policy, not only is he a police guy,
but he's also a liar.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And an obstructionist to justice.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I got two more questions to Meikha before we talk
about You know what I really want you to talk about.
Is there another candidate you all are supporting against Daniel Cameron.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, we are really here to First of all, there's
only two candidates. There's the current governor, Governor Basher, who
happens to be a Democrat, and Governor Basher. I wouldn't
say he's terrible, but of course you and I talk
all the time about how much more the Democratic Party
has to do in order to be as committed to
it to us as voters as we've been to them,
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So I wouldn't sit and tell you that I'm this
huge Basher supporter, but he is the alternative candidate. One
of the things that Governor Bashir has done is restored
the voting rights of one hundred and seventy thousand people
who are formerly incarcerated or people who have had convictions
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felony convictions, and sixty thousand of those people registered to vote,
but only ten thousand of them have been to the polls. So,
as far as we're concerned, that one hundred and seventy
thousand people is an important number for what we're doing
here now and what power looks like or power building
looks like in the state of Kentucky. So we do
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give him credit for that. There's been some other things
that he's done. There are local people in the state
of Kentucky who some support him, others have real issues
with him. Before the most part, those people who are
grassroots leaders on the ground are saying vote for Governor
Basher and vote and do not vote for Daniel Cameron.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, for those just listening, we're talking to ta Mika Mallory.
She's out in Kentucky now. One thing that I didn't
see I seen you on Live the other day, said
that your life was threatened and that somebody threatened your hotel.
That's what we need to get to and all that
other stuff. So so explain to the people what happened.
And some people just don't know how dangerous your work
is and what you have to deal with it. They
think you just stand on the front line and you
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shout and you scream. But it's a lot, it's a
lot more than that. So break down, what's what's been
going on and happening with you right now?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, they do. I do stand on the front line
and yell and scream.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I do that too, which is probably why the death
threats were coming through the several hotels in the state
in Kentucky and Louisville, Kentucky received phone calls from someone
a man asking whether or not I was staying at
those hotels. And of course, in you know, the if
the protocol is followed properly, hotels would never say you
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know that the person is here.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So they said, well, you know she's not. I don't
you know. They said, we can't give out that information.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And the response was, well, it doesn't matter whether she's
staying there.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Or not, but tell the bitch that I'm going to shoot.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
So that was the first call, and of course, you know,
they tracked me down. The police department in Kentucky and
the Louisville specifically, they know how to reach me, whether
it be from the people that I work closely with
here who work within the system, and or just the
fact that I've been arrested a few times here and
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as well as just relationships that we've built. So they
tracked me down, had a conversation with me. They had
police to meet me to let me know that it
sounded like a credible threat. They were concerned about it,
and we did a report in which detectives got involved.
So that was earlier in the day. Later in the evening,
more calls came in, and this particular call was much
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more nerve wrecking, if you will, from me. It was
much more concerning because the person called exactly at the
time that I was arriving to the hotel, and they
knew the color car that I've in, and they told
the person at the front desk, you know, you see her,
the bitch that just got out of the car, and
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they named the color car and said we're going to
shoot her, and we're going to shoot up the hotel.
So once they started, you know, first of all, I'm
sure that the officers, most of them, do not want
me to be harmed here in Louisville. So you know,
when I met with the officers earlier in the day,
they called, they checked in, they were really really serious
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about it. But I think that once someone says they're
going to shoot up a hotel, it turns into a
whole different situation when we're.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
In this climate where there are mass.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Shootings, where people are walking into buildings and shooting multiple people.
And so at that point, the Department of Justice, the FBI,
and all these other individuals became concerned about what's happening. So,
you know, since then, things have been pretty cool. That
doesn't mean that we're not still be a watch. We
went through this, y'all know it because you reported on
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it when we lived here.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Why do you say since then, Tom, you've only been
there seventy two hours?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Then, I mean every day, every day. Listen.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
We got through yesterday without anyone reporting any calls, but
the day before was a really bad day. And I
think you know what for me, As I said, you
all have covered this before, because when we were living
in Kentucky for four months in the thick of fighting
for Breonna Taylor, we were being threatened every day. We
had all types of police surveillance, We had the White
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supremacists coming after us. We will find them, you know,
our security they found people in the bushes. I mean,
it was just a nightmare what we went through. And
so we're pretty much used to it. Not saying that
that means that we don't take it seriously because we do,
and we do have a very expensive, unfortunately security team
of brothers who love and protect me with their life
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and protect us.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
With their lives.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
But what really bothered me wasn't so much that the
threat was against me. It's that there's a person. I
don't know what they make, but let's just say, for
the purpose of this conversation, eighteen dollars an hour and
you're answering the phone in the hotel and someone is
saying that they're going to shoot up the hotel.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's scary.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
It's scary for their families, it's scary for them personally.
Now the rest of the time that I'm doing my job,
I'm worrying about who might come through this door and
what might happen and then trying to relay that to
my family members. It's no joke, so we don't take
it lightly. We understand the significance of those types of threats,
and yes, more than likely people are not going to
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call you and tell you they're going to kill you.
But we know that at the Top shooting in the
Top Supermarket shooting in Buffalo, that man had been there before,
he was surveialing the location.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So it's not one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
That it won't happen that someone will come surveil, you know,
do surveil the area, maybe even call and then go
out and do something heinous, like to try to murder people.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So we do take it seriously.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Why do you even have to be there, Tamika, I
asked you this yesterday, but I want you to I
want to say this. I don't ask you publicly. Why
do you have to be there?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, that's a good question, because people are like, you
should go home, including some of my family members are like, uh, yeah,
you did enough, like go home. But again, I promised
to Meeka Palma, Breonna Taylor's mother that we were never
gonna leave her and to have Daniel Cameron knowing. And
by the way, some people will say, well, maybe there
were no charges, Well there were because the Department of
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Justice has uh the the uh the the civil rights
charges that have been filed against those officers are significant.
So it's not that there was nothing there. There was
absolutely something to indict those officers on because we now
see that the federal government has moved in to do
so and they don't do that and lets they know.
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And by the way, once they started, once they got
a little bit of information and they started pricking into it,
people started coming forward.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And when I say people, I'm.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Talking about police officers telling the truth about what took
place and the ways in which they covered up the
murder of Brianna Taylor. So we have a real serious
chip on our shoulder with this because we were here
and we could have lost our lives, something really bad
could have happened to us, as it did Brihanna. And
I promised Tamika that I would help her to finish
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the job. And one thing I always tell folks is
a lot of people that are online activists and I
don't take anything away from them because raising awareness is
a part of activism. But I'm an organizer that is
from the old school, and I believe you have to
knock on doors and look people in their eyes and
remind them of their power and remind them of the
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importance of them paying attention to not just elections, but
whatever the movements are for social causes happening in their community.
And so when we live here before, we knocked on doors,
we took food to four thousand families, We held conferences,
we did things in this community that has we built
a family here of organizers and we know what they need.
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They're doing the work on their own, but we help
them to bring it and raise the attention to a
national level so people will know what's going on in Kentucky.
It is and you know, and you all know because we.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Talk about this. It's a virus that's spreading.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
So what's happening in Kentucky has national implications because if
Daniel Cameron becomes governor, his behavior, his policies, the ways
in which he thinks. I just told you he's like
the black cousin of Ron DeSantis. They are spreading something
across this nation that is dangerous for our people. And
so that's why I'm here. I'm here because I don't
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believe that I can just send a text message in
a phone call and really motivate our people to get
to the polls.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Now, let me ask you a question. For people out
there that want to help, that want to donate time,
finances or whatever, how can they do that and where
can they do that? What's the site?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
So it's best to go to until freedom dot com.
Until freedom dot com is safe, it's secure, it's an
act Blue account, it goes straight to us. It's best
to invest in our work through the website until freedom
dot com. But there are some people who want to
send cash app, and I'm you know, we're completely fine
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with that. It's until freedom on cash aff it's until freedom.
The reason why I say it's best to go to
until freedom dot com is because there are imposters that
since twenty twenty have been putting up accounts either with
my picture or the until freedom picture, and they have
added things like NY or US or an extra L
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or something that will make someone who's not paying attention
closely choose that and send money. And we know for sure,
because we have verified it with cash app, that that
money thousands of dollars have gone to these fake accounts,
So we ask people that if you're going to do
cash app pay attention to the words being spelled properly.
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It's until Freedom and there is no end. Why there's
no US, there's no nothing else. But if you can,
it's really quick to just go to untilfreedom dot com
and give that way.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Well, Tamiga, we love you, we value you, we appreciate you.
We thank you for always being on the front lines,
you know, fighting for us, even when it's not the sexy,
sexy story or sexy thing to do at the moment.
And you know, like you said yesterday, you're getting all
these death threats and it's easier to do something when
it's in the dark. So that's why we shine in
the light on the work you're doing in Kentucky right now.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Thank you so much and be safe them.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Love y'all, appreciate you. Hopefully I'll be able to come
in when we get back.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Absolutely wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club