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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We all be et now.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Wow morning, everybody's CDJ MV. Charlamagne the Guy. We are
the Breakfast Club. We got a special guests in the building,
the legendary Saraji p Henson.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome. I'm legendary, but not legendary enough to be on
this wall.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
That's not true. We got the whole room. We're doing
this all. You'll see.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
We should have been first. But that's okay.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
You know what, when you ain't wrong, when you're right,
that's right. How are you?

Speaker 4 (00:26):
How are you feeling?

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I feel great? I feel great.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
You know.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
Whenever I come to New York, and especially when I'm
coming for Bors Lawn Hanson Foundation, you know, we're coming
to spread joy, spread a message that it's okay not.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
To be okay.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
You started that conversation for.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
People who don't know what the Boy's Lawrence Tension Foundation is.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
Okay, Yes, it's Bors Lawrence Hanson Foundation. We launched in
twenty eighteen, Oh my god, twenty eighteen, and it's really
to eradicate the stigma around mental illness in the black community,
to bring more awareness to mental wellness in the black
because you know, we don't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
We suffer in silence.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
We isolate, and we try to be strong and we're dying.
So out of my own necessity for my own help
mental wellness and my son, I realized there was no
real help out there for us. So I had to
do something about it. So my best friend since the
seventh grade, Tracy J. We launched a Bords Laurenceanson Foundation

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to hopefully help help an underserved community.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
How's doing He's doing great.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
He's great. Yeah, he's doing great.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
He's maneuvering through, you know, trying to become being a
young black man in America. You know when those rose
colored glasses come off. I'm sure you remember those days.
But he's maneuvered through it pretty well. Did he have
a moment, Oh, he had a huge moment, But I
was he picked the right mother because you know, and
it's interesting because I had an older gentleman tell me

(01:58):
years ago when I was on the television show called
The Division. It was my first series regular, and I
came in upset about something with Marcel. He was little
at the time, and this guy said, don't you ever
give up on them, don't ever give up. I don't
even know if Mark is still alive to this day,
but I just remember him. I never forget him saying that.
Every time I would have these issues with my son,

(02:20):
I wanting to choke him, I would hear his voice,
don't ever give up on them.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
And you can't give up on your kids. You just
gotta pray.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Tracy sent me something or was it you a pam?
Somebody sent me something about I think it was a
pastor who was saying, don't give up on your baby.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I don't care if they strung out on drugs.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
I don't care if they whatever their problem is, you
wrap them up in prayer.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Don't ever give up on your children.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
So what if you have to say, can you set
maybe think, can you set boundaries with your kids that
you need?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
You have to set boundaries. You must set boundaries. Are
you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
What type of boundaries?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Boundaries?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Like?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
What are you willing to accept and not accept?

Speaker 5 (02:58):
You have to because these kids down days come so privileged,
they're not like us.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Now.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
I was talking to somebody the other day, I was like,
I don't even think. I can't remember the last time
I saw a group of children playing outside.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's real. Yeah, I make mine.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
You have to because they have these devices now, which
is not good for the mental. So these kids aren't
even they don't even know what fresh.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Air is anymore. I don't think you know, it's just
a weird time to be a that's tree.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Don't even tell you smell like outside. They don't go up.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
I can't remember the last time I seen girls playing
double dutch, or or just riding bikes or anything.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I was gonna ask when you talk about setting boundaries,
you know, some people will say that it's difficult to
set boundaries because kids get into that phase where they
smell themselves right, they feel themselves, and sometimes that's the
hardest part because that's where they can go left or
they can you know, you can wheel them back in.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
What's your thoughts on that?

Speaker 5 (03:53):
The thing about being parents is once you cut that
on biblical cord, you are really letting go, you are
literally really letting go. And you can preach, you can,
you can do, you can do the best job ever,
and they still have choices. But one thing I always
would tell my son, and it's the things that you
instilled with them in them when they're young, and it'll

(04:16):
come back around once that fog is over and they
start and they start to not stand that stitch.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
That they smell it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (04:25):
They usually they come around, and I would always tell
my son, I'd be like, son, listen, train yourself to
listen to that inside voice, because that's your God voice.
That's the voice that's gonna save your ass. And if
you can't hear that, when at least hear mine, you know.
And so the only way they will really realize or
really want to even listen to the voice or hear

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your voice is if you've set boundaries, if you've given
them a blueprint.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know, they're not gonna always follow.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
It the way that you see them to follow it,
but eventually they'll come around.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
If you stayed on on them, I guess it will
eventually come around.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I guess the scariest thing is you don't want them
to like make any mistakes that's going to really cost
them while they're coming around.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Absolutely, that's that was your mother's fear. That's every parent's fear,
that was your father's fear. That's all of our fear forever.
Like my mother to this day, she tracks me. I'm
fifty three. She tracks me, and she's like, I just
feel so much better knowing where you are, and when
I see you're not moving, I can sleep at night.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
It never ends. It never ends.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
What you know, we don't talk about enough the resources
that are available for the friends and family that have
to deal with folks who have mental health issues.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Exactly, you know, because it takes a toll on them,
especially parents, because you feel like I can't fix my child.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's something that I did wrong.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
It's really hard because that's your job to protect your
kids and save them from the you know, mishaps. And
when you can't, you feel inadequate or you feel like
you're not doing your job.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
It's hard. Parenting is not easy.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
And then being a single parent, I promise you I
wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I wouldn't. I
just wouldn't. It's it's first of all, children need both parents,
boy boys and girls.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
You need both of your parents. If you're not living
in the same household, you still need both. I mean,
you know, regardless of whether your relationship works out, that
has nothing to do with the kid. You still have
to show up both parents for that child. And you know,
I was unfortunately my son's father was murdered, so I
didn't have an option.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
But yeah, it's it's hard.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
It's tough, especially me being a boy mom.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I need the man.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
I can't teach him how to be a man. I
don't know how to be a man, you know. And
that was the that was the hardest struggle for us
because when he was becoming a man, he's looking at
me like, you can't tell me anything.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
What can you tell me your girl?

Speaker 5 (06:53):
You know, it's just the dynamic is it gets a
little difficult in the young adult years.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Like Selm was just saying, you know, so what do
you do to make sure your mental is good?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Remember when I went to Bali.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
For a long time, went for a whole month.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, I had to. I had to.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
I was coming apart at the seams and I didn't
realize it because I was working. And God is God
is amazing, because God will put you in a situation
where you had to sit down. And I have been
work and it's doing this for over twenty years. I
have been working NonStop my entire career, right And it

(07:32):
was just this past year where I didn't have a lot,
you know. I did color purple and I was just
kind of like sitting around and not sitting around. I
had other stuff to do, but as far as like
a call sheet and showing up and knowing lines and
that kind of work, acting gigs. And it was for
a reason because I needed to. I needed to take
care of me. I was not in a good place mentally.

(07:54):
I just really wasn't. And and thank god I had
that time to take care because Lord knows where I
would be if I didn't have the time to really
listen to myself and take time for myself. And I
think we live in such a grind society. It's all
about grinding it. You can sleep when you're in that box. Well,

(08:15):
if you don't sleep now, you might get to that
box a little sooner than you.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Playing when you finally slowed down, Were you surprised that
you weren't happy?

Speaker 5 (08:25):
I was at first, but then I wasn't because once
you sit down and you go, well, how did you
expect to be happy if you weren't paying attention? Like
I wasn't tracking my feelings.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
I was just working.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
And you know, when you finally make it, you have
this dream. I don't care what it is it could
be to be a chef or whatever. But you have
this dream and it finally comes true. It's like I
can't stop now because what if the phone stops ringing,
you know what I mean. So you're not really paying
attention to you're not doing a mental check. And then,
like I said, God did it for me. I didn't

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have the jobs piled up, and I literally had to
stop and check myself. I wasn't doing well, and I
knew because I was looking at the people around me
and they were like walking on eggshells. And I'm a
cool person, like I'm I'm the I'm the most fun person.
But they were concerned because I was a short fuse.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Any little thing. I was like, I'm so annoyed. I
was annoyed about every little thing.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
And it was like like I could even feel myself
wanting to get into like arguments on the streets, and
you know nowadays that's not safe.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
It could be the end of your life, you know.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
And so it was things like little things were triggering me,
little things that once upon a time would just you know,
be water under the bridge, water off my back, but whatever,
but I was literally everything was just just I felt
like I could just run through a wall.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
A lot of people, don't you know a lot of
people would be like everybody else.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
No, no, no.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
No, I'm the tape, Like, if I don't feel one hundred,
I stay home. I don't put my shit on other people,
Like if I'm not in the best move, I want
to be the type of person when I come into
a room and I leave, everybody's much better after my presence, right,
And if I can't give that, then I need to
stay home.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I was going to ask you know, how difficult was
it taking off for thirty days, because you said you've
been working since you were probably a teen, and you've
never stopped working. There's always been something. Even during the strike,
there's something to do. But to actually sit down for
thirty days has to be the most difficult thing.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
No, it wasn't at all.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Really.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I was in the middle of a rice.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Field, and honestly, I didn't want to come back.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I cried, like, literally, I can't.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Okay, When I go on vacation, you get about seven days, ye,
and that sixth day, I'm literally at the airport with
my bags packed ready to go home. It was like
the thirtieth day and I wasn't packed, And it took
me forever to pack because I did not want to leave.
I was scared to come back to the States. And
then it's I started kind of like paying attention to

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the news, and I could feel it triggering me because
I was so peaceful. I didn't have to worry about
crime or racism or anything for thirty old days.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
And then it was time for me to come back.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
The first thing I saw on my feed was a
mass shooting in la and I was like, here, we
go back to the bs exactly, so it.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Wasn't I didn't.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
I honestly didn't want to come back, and when I
got back, I felt weird. I felt I had to
train myself to get back into the American ways because
I was so free over there. I can't explain it.
I was really free. I would go in places and
I didn't feel like the only black person. No one cared.

(11:44):
No one cared about what my hair looked like, or
what clothes I had on, or all the things that
you have to worry about in the States or especially
in what I do, or all the vanity was stripped away.
I didn't have to worry about it. I had my
little Jesus shoes on and my linens and I was happy.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I guess that's the biggest issue, right, like always trying
to figure out how to find that piece you have
on vacation, just walking around every day when you're back
on the ground, have you do you know what that
is or what to do?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (12:12):
I mean the great thing that I walked away from
Bali is my self awareness. Because I went alone, it
forced me to be present. I couldn't, you know, I
couldn't preoccupy myself with conversations with my girlfriends or by yourself.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
I went by myself. Wow, Yeah, and I had to
stay present.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
I met new people, I stepped outside of my comfort zone,
and that was therapeutic for me, me especially me, because
you know, wherever I go, I'm always having to hide
and not talk because they know my voice and I'll
never be able to buy my bananas and peace, you know.
So it was just beautiful to go over there and
just be and meet new people and have conversations with
random people. It was It did me, It did my

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soul good.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
What was the decision to go by yourself? How did
you come up with that? Because that's that has to
be a tough.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
One, because I was clear on why I was going.
It wasn't a vacation. It was literally it was a vacation,
but it was literally a soul searching for me and
respite for me, Like I needed to focus on me
and only me, you know, because I take on my
friends problems, you know, because I'm an impath. So I

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just I literally wanted to go by myself. People thought
I was crazy.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
But I feel like you've always had such an awareness
of self though, Like I feel like you've always known
who you were.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Oh, it's not that I didn't know who I was,
it's just knowing when you're struggling. I'm very clear on
who I am, right, But you know, when you preoccupy
yourself and busy yourself with other things, then you kind
of ignore really where you are mentally.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
When did g Rogerie have that I made it moment?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I still don't feel like I made it. I ain't
know made it on this wall, so clearly I made.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
It, that's not true. You are a legend and icon't.
I don't, so you still haven't felt like you made it.
There wasn't a moment like no, I mean.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
I guess when I stopped auditioning, but I don't ever
feel like I made it, because then I stopped growing,
you know what I mean? Like people always go, what's
your favorite role?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
The next one?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I guess. I guess a better question is when did
you When did you give yourself a chance to breathe
enough to say, okay, I'll go take thirty days to
myself when I went to bother okay? But it wasn't
There wasn't a particular moment. It was just you, your.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Personal, It was just me, my personal. I had gotten
to the place where I was like I didn't care.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I was like, I don't give a shit about work
right now. I have to. I have to be okay
or work is not going to get done. So yeah,
I chose me.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Now, how are you holding up with everything that's going on?
And how with the strike and everything? How are you
holding up with that?

Speaker 5 (14:50):
I can't stay too close to it because everybody has
something to say. I'm just like, call me when it's over.
But I'm ten toes down and supporting. Of course, what
we're fighting for is very important, but I can't be
in the throes of every day.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's too much for my anxiety.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
What are you doing to stay creative?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Moving back into my house.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
I did a huge renovation to my house and finally
it's done and I'm back in the house. So I've
been unpacking, I've been under buses.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
What is joy joints?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Joy joints?

Speaker 5 (15:24):
Okay, this is what I love because this is a
time for us to really celebrate us and to find
that joy and remind ourselves that that joy is our birthright.
It's something that we were born with and it is
something that is ours And so across the nation, we
want people to if you have if you're at work,

(15:46):
it can be an office group, it could be friends.
Remember how I said, we don't see people playing outside
anymore that we're trying to recreate that. Get the kids
have kickball, you know, go outside and play kickball or
spades games, double dutch, whatever it is that brings you joy.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Get a group of people and do it.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
And we're all connecting through the Boris Lawrence Hnson Foundation
to raise awareness of just finding your joy, tapping back
into your joy.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
It was like a party.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
It's a huge party, a nationwide party.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Kse Spade has been our partner since twenty a twenty
twenty two and they have.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Really just been incredible partners. Case Bade New York justs
been everything. They are the reason why we're able to
erect these wellness pods at HBCU campuses. They've been our
partners in that and just in our partners and getting
the message of mental wellness.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
And talk about that what you're doing on those HBCU
campuses and the first campuses you're started with.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah, we started with Alabama State University. We erected the
first pod back when was that April and it's been
a huge success. We're interested in the universities that have
who are very serious or invested in you know, their students,
their student body mental wellness because it's one thing for

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us to bring the pod, but now we need your
help to keep it going and make sure that the
kids are getting you know, the help and the resources
that they need.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
And our next stop is Hampton.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
And we're doing this one in November, and this is
our second university.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
We are you allowed to do it at Hampton.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I knew you was gonna bring some He got trying
to get me back as he missed me on his
wall and.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Wow losses last weekend? You know, was it? Hampton A game.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
It's kind of like, y'all number one on in anything.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Damn joy joy we have.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
We're here to spread joy.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
He tried his helmet.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'm his helmet.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Get that water bucket out of it. Anyway, he threw me off.
My joy, I'm back.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
So what are the pods exactly?

Speaker 5 (18:17):
Oh so they're like these containers, you know, those containers
that everybody's making into homes.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Now, So we found a company. What's the company.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Again, I'm sorry, that'side container bills and they are amazing.
We had a student from Alabama State University who's a
visual artist and she made the whole mural which is
so beautiful, and it was designed the interior designing.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yes, and oh yes, we said that already.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Oh she's talking to Tracy. She's not talking to herself
and people.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
If you're watching the show, you can see there's Tracy's
over there the yellow but anyway, so yeah, but anyway, yeah,
but it's it's so in the respite pod, you can
have uh meditation, you can do yoga.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
We have two actual rest pods.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
We're student because you know, when you're in college, you're
always around people. You know, you have roommates, it's to
study halls to students, and sometimes you just need to
get away from all of that. And so we have
these rooms where.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
You can go rest. But you can rest, you can
meet with a.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Therapist virtually or in person, or you can just go
in there and just relax and chill.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
And sometimes you need.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Yes, yes, yes, So it's a safe space for students
to go when they feel stressed.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's too much and how many specs are you going to?
How many HBCUs are you going to?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
How many how many are we going to for this?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yes, the students need that because because it gets stressful,
and especially for students that's never been alone, never been
by themselves, going to those schools and not knowing people
gives you anxiety having to pass and knowing that if
you get a lower grade than a certain you lose
your scholarship, and to meet and new friends.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
So I think that's that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, And it's also for students to feel like they belonged.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
The dropout rate is insane and it's I think it's
a lot of it is you know, it's a lot
on these students, and now throw.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Social media in the mix on top of all the
other things. You know, So we're just trying to help.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
We're just trying to save us and save our future
by saving these kids.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
I feel like you should come out with a line
of pre roles called joy Joints.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Joints, Yes, okay, joints, a lot of pre rolls.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I got it based medicine for the anxiety and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, they are dope, he says.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
He thinks they Jeordi.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
They're probably already joy Joys. You're not the first one
to come up.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
You also have the one man hours Joy Challenge. Oh absolutely,
yeah you started that last bring. How did somebody join that?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Bores L Henson Foundation dot org.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
You can find out how you can sign up for
the joy Joints or how you just if you just
want to donate.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Tyler Perry spoke about something a couple of days ago. Lord,
I just got a question.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Now.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
He was talking about.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Women should be to try to talk about women dating
men that aren't as financially.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Well, you know how to take a hand, do you?
You just keep going have mercy?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
We got snoop.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Flakes, shall we got snoop fruit And you were saying,
what were you saying?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Can you talk about your Broadway show about okay?

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Okay, I am so proud to be a producer of
a Broadway show. What I love about this show is
it because it showcases these women and I love bringing
life to hidden figures.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
And you know, I grew up in DC and.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I used to get my hair braided, but it was
always over somebody's house, a friend's house. I never really
knew about the hair braiding salons hung out millions of
times in Harlem and I would walk past the salons.
I just walked past them, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
But this play brings such a light to these women.
And another thing, when you think about ice and deportation,
you never think about us because the only images they
always show are the Latin community, right, But this play
showcases that these women are undocumented. They're in this country
and they're trying to make a living and.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
This is how they're doing their braiding hair.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
And in the play you see that they have an
issue with ice and their documentation and I never think
about that.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (23:05):
No? One time when they I think it was was
it the Haitian micros who they say were coming over?
That was a couple of years ago. It was like
a mention.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
It it was just a mention.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
But whenever Ice shows up, you never see it's always
they're coming down.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
On a Latin community. So I never even thought about that.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
I never even thought about undocumented black people in the US,
you know what I mean. And these women literally just
trying to make a living, and so that was very
interesting to me. Not only that, yes, bringing life to
their story and their lives and these incredible women.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
But I love hair. I almost became a cosmetologist.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
I mean I almost went to school for cosmetology, but
I missed it by one year. And I have a
haircare line, so it really makes it was a no
brainer for me to produce the show.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
And congratulations on the haircareline won a bunch of awards.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, are you using it at your household?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I did try some my kids as well. You know what,
my daughter had a problem with.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Boyd and Hampton people live.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Because I actually had to go and get everybody's hair
product because my daughter had I don't know what it was,
but she has something in the hair, and we we
went and got everybody's head. I mean I didn't got
the brat. I didn't even know the Brat had a
hair products to pick up the Brat hair products. Porsche
has hair products.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I picked up.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Because my wife sent me to the store and I
just looked for anybody black and I just got on
the product.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
But you love t p AH. But anyway, that's what
you forgot to say. This one here?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
What makes t p A stand put.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Again?

Speaker 3 (24:38):
What makes t stand off of everybody else?

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Because t p A specializes in scalp care. Honey, you
gotta clean your scalp first, and you have a head
that is naked.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
You can see, do you have anything for protection?

Speaker 1 (24:54):
He has a scout, doesn't it You still.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Got to and moisturizers or don't. That's what got.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
This is what I came from.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
But that's another way to bring joy.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Absolutely, I believe self care.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Hair care is self care, especially for women and women
cultural women from ethnic backgrounds, because we have curly, thick,
big hair, and we look at doing our hair as
a chore. And so with the t p H line,
it's more of it's like a spa experience. So you
pamper yourself from scout to toad. That's you do not

(25:39):
have a body line too. So the whole line was
created to change the narrative of you know, taking care
of yourself as a chore and look at it more
as self care, like take yourself to the spa.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
And and the reason I came.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Up with that is because my hair care line launched
during the pandemic. People were ready to go to salons
and be around other people.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
So it was more like bring the.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
Salon home to you you can at an affordable price
and affordable Can men use it?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Just absolutely? Man, you have a scout right, yes.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
But I'm talking about guys that use like the just
for men in the Beijing Like will they wash it out?

Speaker 5 (26:18):
It'll wash it all off? Damn Yeah, I think I
hear soap and rain.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, you try to be funny.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
We had a whole conversation about this because I think
a lot of guys are doing this now, They're getting
their hair transplants into Beijing and the just Wan and
I'm like, I'm like, why, like who are y'all doing
this for? And so a lot of women called up
here this morning and say they don't even like that.
They rather the guys just just be bald or go
to the salt and.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Pepper bag, would rather us just wear our hair and
not wear wigs and stuff. Oh I don't care, you know,
I know, but I hear that, you know a lot
of minutes.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Just be natural.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
They don't believe that. I think they just I'm I
think you should do whatever it is that makes you happy,
makes you happy, unless you're a man. If you're a man,
you should let the salt and pepper wrong.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Men can't do.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Because it looks ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
That's terrible.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
They haven't learned how to blend it in. Like it
don't look good.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
You don't mind if it looks good.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
If it looks good, right, because some of those wigs
look really good. I'm not I'm trying to say this
with a straight face. I'm really not trying to be
funny because I believe people should do what makes them
feel good. And if if women can't wear lace fro,
men can too.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Baby hair, they've been going.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Crazy with the baby hair is a little out of control.
Their baby they're bangs, they're not.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Baby baby is going down to your your your mouth
like this, your nose, like your cheeks.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
It's getting crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Now you know what you know what it is when
the baby here meet the eyebrow.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
That's getting crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Now, it's a little I don't judge. Some people like it.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
And if that makes you happy, wear that baby, bang baby,
because that.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
That is a bang on your forehead.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
But if that makes you feel good, wear that bang
baby and get you some TPH products to slick it down.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
That's right, that's right now. World Mental Health Day is
coming up. Yeah, what are some things people could do
in their community to create their own joy? Joints and
joy challenges?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Get the best group.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
If you like space, you like oh no, whatever it
is that brings you joy. It could be sitting outside,
sitting on the stoop talking, whatever it is, whatever brings
you joy.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I can't tell you what brings you, Joel. I know
what brings me joy. I want to play. I want
to do double dutch. I want to jump double dutch.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
You're still doing nothing play checks.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
I haven't in a while, but I would to bring
myself joy. I'm willing to do anything.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
People don't bring in a child.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Absolutely, never let your in a child die.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
People don't double dut no, nor do they know how
to double dutch. And that which is crazy because when
we do the events, I bring this double dutch team
husband and wife and they teach people how to double
Dutch men and women, and they teach you the easy
way how to how to you know, because I'm double handed,
so I don't know how to. I don't know how
to do it, but but it teaches you because it's
funny and it's an exercise.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
And a lot of people that they don't know how.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
To do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
They know because people aren't playing outside anymore.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
That is correct.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
I like what you said about that, because you know
a lot of people are afraid to do that because
they're in a child still need is so broken. Yeah,
so what do you do when you're in a child
still needs to be loft?

Speaker 5 (29:13):
You have to nurture it. Have to nurture that little child,
pay attention to it. That child cries out for attention
all the time. You have to pay attention.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I play still to this day. That's what my salon
is about. I'm a salon in.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
My house and I get my friends tease me all
the time because I have a square like a register.
It's just I used to play register when I was
a kid, and as I grew up, I was like,
I'm going to always purchase the things that I couldn't afford.
When I was a kid, I was told no so
much because we couldn't afford it. And when I can afford,
I'm going to get it. And so my salon is

(29:52):
more like my playroom, and that's where I go when
things become too much. I go in there and I
tell people, don't call me clients.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
And what do you do? Do You go through a.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Whole like an appointment book, and I make up appointments.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
I go there, I let my inner child play, and
I have these dolls, these heads, and I do their
hair like one may have a wet set appointment, one
may have a dye.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I may have to cut.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
You do by yourself.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
I went to the University of YouTube and I learned
a lot. I graduated magna cum Latti, so I know
a lot of things.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Bring my girls over your house and you.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Too, Oh yes, bring them. I was like that, why
did I have a girl? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
It was a hard man.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Like miss me. With all of that, I'm not interested.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Girls are hard. I got four of them, and my
oldest is at that age where she don't want nothing
to do with daddy. She's fifteen. Oh my god. And
that's heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Your put your seat out on.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, my wife says it'll it'll, it'll go away. But
how long though, Jeuz you never know.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, that she's gonna get a boyfriend and she really
not gonna care about five years.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
It can be ten usually a ten year pretty much.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Wait till she's twenty five that she's gonna get married
or not.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yes, because it's true, she got a baby.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
You're done.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
It's just like hang it up for the twenties. Just
don't watch, just wait for to come back like twenty eight,
twenty nine.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Stop crying out.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, I don't think people realize how heartbreaking. That's something
that fathers don't talk about it enough, Like that's heartbreaking
when you're your little girl all of a sudden don't
want nothing to do with you and act like they
don't even like you.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Yea, you know, I'll understand that part. They not like
it your part though, I get that.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I want to ask you about this quote to Roger
Oh another quote, no, no, no no. It says healing
can be so hard when you're when the child wants love,
your teenage self wants revenge, and your current self only
wants peace.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
That's deep.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
What comes up for you when you oh, it's facts,
it's real. It's triggering because that's so real.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I just never heard it. Put the anger, the teenage anger.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Get ready, Lord have mercy, Jesus RaSE would you?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Would you say that the bory Thlornenti Foundation is your
life's work?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Definitely my life a life purpose, a purpose, you know,
a clear purpose. Like I thought it was acting, I'm
going to touch the people through my work, and of
course I did, but I just felt like that was
to bring me here, because this feels really fulfilling, Like
I really because you could do a performance, will you

(32:51):
touch somebody?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Will you change my I don't know. I hope so.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
But this is the work that is really changing and
saving lives. And I feel good about what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I feel important.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
You are important, I.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Know, but this really makes me feel like I have
a life purpose beyond vanity and being pretty in front
of a camera or what does she have on?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Or you know, are you almost tired of Hollywood?

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Almost almost is anyway.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
But I still got some jobs to complete. I have
some things that.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
I'm working on, but I know, yeah, it's getting to
the point where I'm ready to let these kids have it.
You know, I'm looking for my exit strategy. I don't
want to be doing this one, not on a grind,
you know. I want to dip back in when I'm ready,
when it's a project that I feel so inclined that
I will come out of my retirement, you know. But

(33:53):
I'm literally ready to go stick my toes and some
saying somewhere and let these.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Kids have it. I literally feel like you.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Never see that in how ito you feel like you
just see people keep going, keep going, keep going. You
never see nobody just say you know what I'm done?

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Yeah, But I have other things I'm working on to
that's not just acting. The acting will not be my
exit strategy. Like that's not gonna be my nest egg
that I can lay up on.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
It'll be a little bit of it, But my nest
egg is gonna be my brand when.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Somebody coming by buys TPH for a billion dollars or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Did you hear that from your mouth?

Speaker 3 (34:31):
How can people donate a contribute to the Borings lawnch
Hinston Foundation.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Always you can always go to www.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
Dot Boris l Henson dot Boris Lhinson Foundation dot org.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
We appreciate you doing that, and you all loved, valued
and appreciate it absolutely.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I will know that when I'm up on this wall.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
But we appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Ladies and gentlemen from Howard University.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Hain't you no period. Get that water bucket out in.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
It's the breakfast cloak of water so farious.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
I love the work you guys are doing. I'm so
glad you're on my television.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
That's all I watch to be.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
I even

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