TD Jakes Interview

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pody allowed me to integrate, allow me to introduce myself,
Angela and Charlomagne. The guys, y'all him a long way.
I think that y'all have a certain amount of respect
for you know what everybody else does, and yo are
just the best of what y'all doing. This platform, the
reach y'all have that you earned, make space for somebody

(00:22):
like me. You guys have a direct line to the coaches.
Oh my god, I'm on the ready end on Dolomaine
and Gay Empty. All I do is read about the
Breakfast Club every morning. Good you guys are trending every
you know, I dragged my ass out of that. I'm like, uh,
what happened on the breakfast Club today? Get yours? Good

(00:52):
morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo Good morning Angela, yee,
good money. He's amby Charlemagne, the god piece to the
plan that is Tuesday. Yes, it's Tuesday, Yes it is.

(01:12):
Man still feels grim and gloomy. Huh um. I mean
I say grim and gloomy, but I'm gonna say heavy.
You know, I think that still gloomy to me. It's
still weighing heavy on people. You know, you wake up
in the morning. I just gotta text from a partner
of mine and you know, he's a father, and he
said he just can't get over He said, he just
can't get over that. That the fact that you know,

(01:32):
Kobe passed with his daughter like that. You know, it's
more and more details come out, it just makes you
It just makes it to me feels even more worse.
So or even worse I should say, yeah, And I mean,
you know, I think I think when you're a father,
I think it's the the whole idea of you know,
our job being able to protect and provide with being
in a position with your daughter the way no matter what,
there's nothing you could do to protect her in that situation.

(01:55):
But listen, yeah, it's still investigating. But you just think
about a lot of things that you I don't want
to say you don't necessarily think about, but you might
not think about as much like when you're gonna think
about death, No, but when like you go on the plane,
right and the pilot that has control of everybody's lives
on that plane. Do you really Yeah, I've been telling
you about it. Bus drivers, how when I walk on

(02:15):
an airplane, I say hied to the pilot. When we land,
I say, you know, thank you. I do that all
the time. Ober drivers or lift drivers. You don't know
who you know, Yes, I do that all the time.
You got to be extra night thro those people because
you don't know what they're going You don't know what
they're going through. You don't know how the day ass you.
You don't know the experience. You just you honestly don't know. Man.
But I was heartbroken watching the husband of the basketball

(02:39):
coach who died on that helicopter, Christina Mauser. Hole. Yeah,
he called into the Today Show and that hurt me, Like,
had to tell his kids, is that the one? Yes,
he's got three small children. Yeah. I saw an interview
he did that. He did an interview. Yeah, that was
Today Show. That was that was horrible. I don't know, man, Again,

(03:00):
our condolences, and then I just don't like seeing people
being negative in a time like this and having nasty
negative things to say, Well, you better move off to
this planet then. But that's what this planet is built on.
That's why I've been hanging like, not going on social media,
not looking at too much stuff, just because I think
it's just very disheartening the way people are in this world.
Some people you got, but you know what, I'm not

(03:21):
even gonna say in this world, I'm gonna say on
social media, I think that's a social media thing. I
think a lot of that stuff is performative. I think
people do that because they just know they're gonna get
attention for it. Yeah, I just really do. I think
they know they're gonna get retweets, they know they're gonna
get likes, they know they're gonna get people adding them,
they're gonna get written up in certain articles. Like I
just think certain things you can't even give energy. Man,
don't even get that. Don't even give that no energy. Well,

(03:42):
Bishop td Jakes will be joining us, man, nobody I
would want to talk to more other than probably the
honor up minus the lowest prior con But I definitely
was thinking about Bishop td Jakes the past couple of things. Man,
that is a person I consider one of my spiritual advisors,
and I'm glad he is joining us this morning. Yeah,
you know, you know what in terms like this, if
you have kids, this is usually when your kids just
ask a lot of questions and a lot of questions

(04:04):
I couldn't answer. You know. My daughter, you know, asked
me yesterday. You know, hey, Dad, you know, if if
you have free will, and we pray for God and
we pray, you know, for for God and our blessings
and pray for things, and you know, when you look
at situations like this, you know, why couldn't you know,
God put his hands in things and say, you know what,
do this? Do that? And some of these I just
don't have to answer for it. Yeah, that's true, you know,

(04:25):
but I mean we we all do make choices as well,
you know what I mean, Like you can't I think
sometimes we give God credit for choices that we make.
You know, sometimes there's just human error. Yeah you hope God,
you know, helps you through it, but sometimes there's just
human error. I you know, my guy, you know, I
talked to my daughter and I was like, yeah, I
said the same thing, and she was like, but if
you know, if God is God, why I couldn't he

(04:45):
even fix that human error? You know that those three
young children on that plane that is a great question,
and that's all I can say. I don't have an
answer for it. That's that's I think. Sometimes we try
to make sense of the senseless. And that's exactly what
I said. Some things just are Yeah, it is what
it is. That's the baby. Let's talk in the morning.
Good night, all right, and also Steve Stott will be

(05:07):
joining us this morning. Yes, he's got Kobe stories too.
He actually signed Kobe Day's first record deal. Yeah, long
relationship with Kobe Brown. All right, so we'll kick with
both of them. Let's get the show cracking front page news.
What we're talking about, Well, they were supposed to be
a Lakers and Clippers game, and we'll give you information
on what happened with that. Also, Lebron has spoken about Kobe,

(05:28):
so we'll tell you what he had to say. All right,
we'll get into that next keeping lot. This to Breakfast Club,
good morning, wanting everybody as TJ Envy, Angela, Yee, Charlemagne
the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in
some front page news. When we start with ge Well,
let's talk about the NBA. They officially postponed the last
night's Lakers versus Clippers game. Oh, Tonight's Lakers versus Clippers
game that was supposed to be at the Staples Center

(05:49):
out of respect for the Lakers organization after Kobe Bryant
some time we passing, they said the game will be
rescheduled at a later date. I'm gonna be honest with you,
I thought that was gonna be something special tonight because
when I saw that on the schedule, I was like, Damn,
the Lakers and Clippers playing the night at the Stables Center.
I'm like, that's gonna be special. Can you imagine the emotions?

(06:09):
Though they probably didn't want to play, They probably haven't
grieved yet. They just probably just need some time to
just just get it all out. This system grieving as
a process. But I was just thinking about, you know, Lebron,
the show he might have put on it. It's all
very selfish reasons. By the way. Kawhi Leonard, you know,
he had a relationship with Kobe. He you know, trained
at the Mamba Academy. Like the show he might have
put on, Like, I don't know, I would have been

(06:29):
special all right now. The Yukon Huskies women's basketball team.
It's also honoring Gianna Gigi Prior to the game last
night against Team USA, they had a number two jersey
on the chair with the bouquet of flowers. Also, that's
where she was determined to play. She wanted to go
to Yukon, so they honored her as well. And they
said that Kobe had also trademark Gigi's nickname Mambasita, so

(06:54):
I guess he was getting ready for her to be
a star as well. All right, now, out over one
point four million fans have signed a petition they went
the NBA to change the logo in order to honor
Kobe Bryant. So that logo has been the same since
nineteen seventy one as an outline of Jerry West. So
now they feel like this petition wants them to change

(07:15):
that to be an outline of Kobe Bryant. I'm not
mad at that, actually. I mean, you know, I don't
even know what Jerry did to deserve that honor, But
I don't think that's a bad idea at all. Yeah,
people saying it's a great idea, but you know what
happens when you know Michael Jordan, When Michael Jordan passes
way down the line. Listen, God forbid, I don't think
Michael Jordan would dies tragically with Kobe Bryant. That's right,

(07:37):
you know what I'm saying. I think that's that's that's
the honor, right, you know the fact that he died
so tragically. I don't think that's gonna happen in Micho. Now.
You can also watch Kobe's Oscar winning short film Dear
Basketball online for free right now. It's five minutes and
twenty two seconds and it won an Academy Award two
years ago. It was the Best Animated Short Film. It
was based on the poem that Kobe wrote for the
players Tribute in his final season in the NBA to

(07:59):
announce that it would be last season in the NBA.
So if you want to check that out, you definitely
can do that. Did I would out Jerry Westfield's about
the NBA Local change. Has he said anything about it?
I'm not sure. I haven't seen because his word would
go a long way because he's the logo right all right?
An I told you earlier the husband Christina Mauser who
also passed away and that helicopter crash, Matt Mauser was

(08:22):
on the Today's Show. He called in and here's what
he said. How difficult was that to tell them, let's see,
I said, you know, it was the hardest to have
ever done. A doubt, how you telling try out? Their
mommies no longer with us? So he screamed, They yelled,

(08:42):
and I just held him, let him scream, let him yell.
I can't lie, and I was. I would always get
nervous when she get on the helicopter. It's just something
in my heart, heartbreaking. No man, no man wants to
be in that position. No, no, no man deserves to
be in that position. I pray for that man. I
pray for that man. I pray for that man. I
pray for that man's family. Absolutely, Lord, all right, and

(09:03):
that's front page news. Also, if you're looking for a
Kobe gear, Nike has pulled Kobe's gear off the shows.
Why well, they're trying to figure out what to do
moving forward. Yeah, for right now, they don't want people
to resell for high numbers and things like that, so
I guess maybe they're producing more so they don't have
to deal with a resellers. But for right now they
pulled it off the off the Nike dot com site.

(09:24):
All right, get it off your chests. Eight hundred five
eight five one oh five one. If you're upset and
you need to vent phone lines to wide open the numbers.
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the Breakfast Club. The morning the Breakfast Club. It is
your time to get it off your chests, whether you're
man or blast, So you better have the same ant

(09:46):
we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello,
who's this the steward man? What's up? Everything? What's up? Steward?
Get it off your chests? Bro? You're a man? Scat
what's up? Dollars? What's happening? First? I want to start
up at n RP to Kobe and his daughters and
every family. Man. It's sad, but that MSNBC reporter Alison

(10:07):
Morris man, we got to stop for giving these people
or the blatant disrespect that they do and hold them accountable.
You know, that was breaking news and abact that she
knews for us or not. She shouldn't be in that
position if she can't do a job. See, I'm saying
it made me really upset that she and I listened
to the take like a hundred times already. She clearly

(10:28):
said yeah, and I'm shocked at the progressive, liberal leaning
network like MSNBC didn't at Leasta spin her. Well, that's
a terrible time to make a mistake. And she covered
her own ass bout making a quick statement and that
was that you know what I I mean, you never heard
about it again. We got to start holding these people accountable.
Man censuries the disrespect dot com like Kobe was alleged,

(10:51):
and to have her say that, like, people don't get it.
To have her stake that about the Lakers and nations
and nobody's like, you know, I I see people on
social media defending her black people defender. She didn't say this,
you did. Said I'm like, wait, will this telling the stuff? Yeah,
we put it in HD bro bro. She definitely said hello,

(11:12):
who's this? This is blind Beauty. Hey, blind Beauty, how
you doing? Good morning you guys, Good morning getting blind Beauty.
Blind Beauty did a song for me, and um, I
just want to say thank you came out really really dope.
Oh well you're welcome. Are we gonna hear it? But
soon bit soon, bit soon be. We gotta clear some stuff.

(11:35):
We gotta clear some stuff and make sure everything's clear. Yes,
I wanted to talk to you this morning. Um. First
of all, obviously rest in peace to Kobe. And then
I just want to say thank you to you guys,
because he would just think like, oh she gets through
or chapped it through. But I've been calling forever or
once up fun of time, Charlotte being told me I
was trashed at music once upun of time. I did

(11:56):
a poem, you know, and you guys like I've grown
with you guys as an artist, as a writer, and
it just really mean a lot. And Charlotte Magne, yes,
Ma'm okay. You always talking about I see you real,
I see you. I want you to see me on
your feed and follow me eventually. Please. What's your what's
your what's your feed? Your blind beauty on Instagram? Your

(12:20):
blind beauty? Yes, I'm your blind beauty. Why? Ah, you
are all right, I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give
it a follow. If I'm not interested after a week,
i'm gonna stop following you. Okay, thank you? All right,
you guys have all right? Hello? Who's this? Hey? This
is Arlyn Remington's mommy. Hey Tarlyn, Okay, good morning. Hey.

(12:43):
I called you guys when I first had him, like
it was like November night and it was actually my
birthday death day. Um, and Charlotte Magne wasn't at work,
so I hope he's here today on time. How are you?
I'm right here. What's happening? H Ten? I love you
so much and my husband thank Me and my husband

(13:03):
are super big fans. And Angela. Ye, hey, BJ and Babe.
Good morning Ryan. I just want to give you guys
an update. Baby really can't remember I coach you guys,
he was almost ten pounds. I want to give you
guys an update. He's still a big baby. I think
he's hitting almost fifteen pounds now. He's almost three months.
If you follow me on I know right, I can't.

(13:25):
I can't believe he's growing the fast. Um. My Instagram
is missus e Underscore TV because I know Angela was
like I want to see a picture of him, So
I've been posting daily updates with him. They grow up
so fast. And yeah, I'm tired from holding him. I'm
actually holding him right now. Yes, I am question. Is
your baby getting fast shamed yet on social media? No

(13:49):
he is not. He is not getting that shame. He's
his dad is like sixty three. I'm like five nine.
So here have a tall baby. Yeah, y'all big people
baby hand. That's just like my uh my homegirl Debbie
Brown and her husband Dwayne. Even when they used to
be dating back in the day. I used to be like, boy,
y'all gonna have some big babies. Get it on. His

(14:10):
son is big. Oh my God, ready ready for the
ready for the NFL. Right now, goodness Green, she's get
it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one
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Wake up, wake up, Wake y'all your chime to get
it off your chest, whether your man or blas, we

(14:33):
want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello.
Who's this? Hey Samy? Hey, good on to get it
off your chest? Hey, good morning to do that. Envy,
I'm calling. I'm responding to what you said earlier about
your kids, when you were talking about um like, if
God was God, how come he let that happen? Or
how come you know how he allowed that had to happen.

(14:54):
And I was just sitting her thinking, you know, we're
all hurt by the incident with Kobe and his daughter
and the rest um that happened with the helicopter incident. Oh,
good morning Angela and Charlemagne by the way, morning the morning. Um,
it's not. We have to realize that God allows certain

(15:15):
things to happen. It ain't that he didn't stop it.
He allows certain things to happen. And it could be
that he's trying to get America's attention for some reason. Um,
whatever that may be, you know what I'm saying. So
it ain't that, you know, Um, he just can allow
things to happen, not that he just has the power
to stop it. He allows things to happen, you know,

(15:37):
And he allows this to happen for whatever reason. Maybe
he's trying to wait America up. You see what I mean.
I mean, listen, all I know is we all we
all have free will, we all make choices and didn't
as God's will. I think sometimes we give God credit
for things that he's he doesn't have a he or
she doesn't necessarily have a hand in. But I do
know that if you believe in God, and you truly

(15:58):
believe everything happens for a reason, you gotta take the
soul called good with the soul called bad. Yeah, and
it's hard. It's hard to say that to a child.
When a child praise every night for things that they
want and being grateful to be here and then see
things like this, you know, it's kind of like she
feels like, you know, you pray for things, you know,
and then this happened. So what are we actually praying for?
You know? That's that's the way of thinking, and those

(16:20):
those are things that you have to understand one day
on her own, because I don't have the answers. You know.
Another thing, I think we should start thinking about again,
what's that? And I haven't been thinking about this for
a while, even tho I grew up a Jehovah witnesses.
You do got to start thinking about the afterlife. You do.
Got to start thinking about you know, paradise. You do.
Got to start thinking like, yo, maybe there is a
place that's that's better, you know, than here, right, you
know what I mean? And maybe it was just their

(16:42):
time to go there. I don't know. I don't know. Hello, Hello,
who's this? Hey? What's up? Get it off your chest?
Good morning? And name Jay? What's up? Bro? I don't
want to say hi. Maybe I've been doing the work,
going to therasybout liable to get over mynd and anxiety
can get ribbed by my girlfriend. That's what I'm talking about.

(17:05):
But listened by his girlfriend. How she robbed you? Oh no,
I was her or three cousins. Man, they pulled up
on that can be very girlfriend and robbed you at
gunpoint with her cousins, him and his mama. My bad,
my bad ex girlfriend. I'm with my my new girlfriend.
I was here going a year and a half. How
long were you dating this woman that she set you

(17:25):
up and robbed you? Man, it was about for two years.
It was more of a it was more of a
she was sought because I was moving on type thing.
So she wanted to roll her stuff back, pulled up
with a cousin. I thought we was just fighting. They
pulled out a gun. You know. Wait, she came to
get her own stuff back. No, she came to get
like little gifts and and stuff. And the funny part
is when the police arrested her, they brought all the

(17:46):
stuff back. Wow. This is a tragic ending to a relationship.
I'm sorry. I'm glad. I'm glad you went to do
the work, brother, because you know that PTSD and that
anxiety from such a traumatic situation can be a mother ever. Yeah, man,
it's been hard, man, but I've been and through it. Hey,
real quick, shout to my brother Andrew. You listen to
y'all all the time. Man, you're going to work right now.
It's a little brother, Jake, Andrew. What's happening, So get

(18:07):
it off your chests. Eight dread five A five one
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up now now you've got rooms on the way. Yes,
And the effects of Kobe Bryant. Find out what Ti
had to say to his family and also what fifty
cent says is not going to happen right now, all
because of Kobe. All right, we'll get into that next.
Keep a lock this to Breakfast Club come morning. The
Breakfast Club. It's just say, oh gosh, go report gys

(18:36):
Angela into it's the rum of report Breakfast Club. All right. Now,
let's talk about Terry Crews versus Gabrielle Union and America's
Got Talent. If you guys recall, Gabrielle Union is not
returning to Gabrielle. Gabrielle Union's not returning to America's Got
Talent because she said it was sexist. There was racism
there present, and Terry Crews responded about his own experience

(19:00):
on the show, saying this, first of all, I can't
speak for sexism because I'm not a woman, but I
can't speak on behalf of any racism comments. That was
never my experience on America's Got Talent. In fact, it
was the most diverse place I have ever been in
my twenty years of entertainment. When you look at what
the allegations were about, it was given by an unnamed source.

(19:23):
My thing is, you know, it's funny because I believe
you should listen to women. You should always believe women.
So I asked my wife. My wife said, well, if
she hasn't made a statement, why would you, And I said,
you know what, I'm gonna listen to her, all right. Well.
Gabrielle Union then went on Twitter as people were tweeting
her about that interview, and she said, truth telling, wanting
change and having multiple witnesses who bravely came forward to

(19:45):
let everyone know I didn't lie or exaggerate really exposes
those who enthusiastically will throw you under the bus for
getting quickly who stepped up for their truth. Now if
you guys recall when Terry Crews had his own allegations
saying that he was groped at a party by a
high level Hollywood executive. Gabrielle Union had tweeted out, Terry
Crews is a stand up guy. Literally one of the
nicest people in our industry. He is honest, kind and

(20:07):
true professional. I believe him and stand by him. Hashtag
me too. So people did not like the fact that
that happened. Now. Terry Crews then tweeted out, after the
backlash he got from that interview, I'm a hog, you're
a chicken. Just because you gave me eggs don't mean
I owe you bacon wow ancient Flint Michigan proverb. Then
he tweeted, there is only one woman on earth I

(20:29):
have to please. Her name is Rebecca. Not my mother
and my sister. My daughters are co workers. I will
let their husband's boyfriend's partners take care of them. Rebecca
gives me wings. Who's Rebecca his wife? His wife? Sure?
So Terry only cares about his wife, not his mother,
not his care about his daughters, his sisters, his homegirls,
his aunt, his mom. The only woman you care about
in your life's wife is crazy. That's the sad. The
only person he has to please. Yeah, No, the only

(20:51):
person he has to please. That's not that's not true.
That's not true at all. No, especially your daughters. And
if he thinks like that, I don't even know what
type of man he is. You don't put your daughters
in the number of people. What did you want to please?
Her mother said, he'll let their husband's boyfriends and partners
take care of that boy certain certain things that your
husband and you know, your partners and your boyfriend's This
is love that a father can provide that they can't

(21:11):
at all. But if you don't have a husband's boyfriend
or a partner, then what he's just floating around? And
then I think Dad, even when Terry says, um, you
should believe all women, if he feels like you should
believe all women, and why would he undermine what Gabrielle said, right,
especially because so many people were in agreeance with her
and they even had to sit down with her about it.
I think you should listen to all women, believe all proof.

(21:33):
That's what I think all right now. Kanye West did
a Sunday service paying tribute after the Grammys to Kobe Bryant.
They said Kirk Franklin wasn't attendance. He delivered a short
sermon about navigating the confusion and chaos after Kobe's passing,
and Kanye was a huge Kobe Bryant fan, so that
went down. In addition to that, fifty Cent said that

(21:54):
he won't argue with anyone after Kobe Bryant's untimely passing.
He went on Instagram and he shared a video of
himself hugging Kobe at a basketball game between the Lakers
and the Knicks. He said, I feel like I have
to achieve what I went in life now after this,
I have to focus. I'm not arguing with anyone anymore.
I'll deal with it another way. If there's a problem, Wow,

(22:14):
that's I don't like. I don't I don't like that option. Here,
what's the other way? Fifty I need to know the
other one. What's the other option? Oh? I didn't take
anything negative from that man. He is going to have
a conversation. Yeah, no, all right now. T I also

(22:36):
posted his own message. He posted a caption of him
and Tiny and he said, I love you missus h
and he added her He said imperfections, misunderstandings and all.
We've shared most of the happiest moments of our lives together.
I know I've had my moments, but despite all my
shortcomings and transgressions, the fact remains, you give me a
thousand choices, and I choose you every time. I couldn't

(22:57):
imagine living in a world without you, or leaving you
in the kids to have to live without me. I'm
determined to make you happy by any means necessary, like
it or not, to love, cherished, protect, provide, and whatever
the f else it takes. Forever there you go. You
gotta love it, he said, and he you know his daughters.
I love you girls more than my vocabulary will allow
me to express. For his sons, he said, I'm so

(23:19):
proud of each and every last one of you, guys,
and so on and so forth. So everybody is now
reflecting after this. Yeah, I mean, all of this is beautiful.
We we gotta keep this energy long after Kobe and
his daughter and all the other victims of this tragic
accident are buried. You know what I'm saying, It's like
a honeymoon phase people go through. I don't know if
I want to call it a honeymoon phase. But it's

(23:39):
like a phase people go through after things like this happened,
and yeah, you know, but it's like, yeah, you gotta
keep this energy all the time. We've been in constant
remind a lot of people have been pushing the narrative,
and I've been seeing a change in the last couple
of years with family love and children loved. I love
to see that. Dad's if you out there, make sure
that you're good with your kids. Make sure you're good
with your wife, make sure you're good with your parents. Man,
make sure you're good with your daughters. All right, Now,

(24:00):
don't be like Terry Cruz. Okay, it's other people his wife,
but it's other people to please out here other than
your wife's, especially your daughters. That's kind of all right,
Juice World. When he passed away, he had two thousand
unreleased songs, and so now they're talking about doing some
new albums with him. Two thousand that now, that's a
lot of work that he was putting in. So they

(24:21):
do want to pay tribute with his unheard work, and
they said there's several ideas floating around, including of course
doing an album or a new music release. He was
constantly recording. They said he didn't do anything besides to
ride his dirt bike and make music. So guests, pretty
soon we'll be hearing some of that. Now. I'm in
a juice world. Got a top ten record right now

(24:42):
on the Billboard Hot one hundred. It's called Godzilla. All right. Well,
I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. All right,
thank you, miss she. Now we got front page who
was coming up? What we're talking about? Yeah, let's get
to what Lebron had to say about Kobe Bryant. All right,
we'll get into that next. Keep a lock this to
Breakfast club. Good morning. I'm the type of baby latim

(25:07):
rappers to put in forty angel will tell them. So
whoever they got ain't in the world. Morning. Everybody is
DJ Envy, Angela Ye, Charlemagne de God. We are the
Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get too for patients. What
we're talking about you, Well, let's talk about Lebron and
what he had to say about Kobe. He has broken

(25:28):
his silence. He posted on social media. I'm not ready,
but here I go. Man. I'm sitting here trying to
write something for this post. But every time I try,
I begin crying again just thinking about you, niece, Gigi
and the friendship, bond, brotherhood we had. I literally just
heard your voice Sunday morning before I left Philly to
head back to LA. Didn't think for one bit in
a million years that would be the last conversation we'd have. WTF.

(25:51):
I'm heartbroken and devastated my brother, man. I love you,
big bro. My heart goes to Vanessa and the kids.
I promise you I'll continue your legacy. Man, you mean
so much to all of us here, especially Laker Nation,
and it's my responsibility to put this ish on my
back and keep it going. Please give me the strength
from the heavens above and watch over me. I got
us here. There's so much more I want to say,

(26:13):
but just can't right now because I can't get through
it until we meet again, my brother. Hashtag Mama for life,
hashtag gig for life. So Luke to Lebron, you know, listen.
If you aren't ready to say something, don't feel the
need to because everybody else is on social media. Like
I think, sometimes when it comes to digital grieving, people
think because they don't see you post something on social media,
you don't care you're not grieving. Yeah, and they be

(26:35):
in your comments like, oh, you don't got nothing to
say about Kobe, do't not to say about Coob. If
you're not ready to say something on social media, you
don't have to it. Social media is not real life,
I agree, all right. In The NBA also put out
a statement. The Commissioner Adam Silver said, the NBA family
is devastated by the tragic passing of Kobe Bryant and
his daughter Gianna. For twenty seasons, Kobe showed us what
is possible when remarkable talent blends with an absolute devotion

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to winning. He was one of the most extraordinary players
in the hit story of our game, with accomplishments that
are legendary. But he will be remembered most for inspiring
people around the world to pick up a basketball and
compete to the very best of their ability. All right.
The BBC, by the way, has apologized. They put out
Lebron James video in a segment on Kobe's passing. Yeah

(27:20):
see that yesterday. That was dumb, they said, for this
human error, which fell below our usual standards. They did
apologize the wild human error. I mean, somebody did not
fact check that. Yeah, Kobe Bryant is a global icon.
He's a superstar. You know, if if they mistaken guys
like him for just other random black global icons superstars,
we are were in trouble. Now all black global icons

(27:43):
sports icons don't look alike BBC. All right, and over
one point four million fans have signed a petition. They
went to the NBA to change the logo to honor
Kobe Bryant. So they went to go ahead and change
that logo that's been the same since nineteen seventy one,
with an outline of Jerry West. That's been the NBA
is efficient official emblem since back then, and they want
to go ahead and put Kobe on that. And the

(28:04):
picture they have looks amazing, by the way. Yeah, I'm
not mad at that simply because you know, the Jerry
West logo. I'm not sure the exact story, but I
don't think there's really any science behind it other than
it looked cool. Just look cool. Yeah, you know, Kobe
looks cool and it means a lot. Yeah, I think
Kobe would be dope. And Kobe actually won five rings,
Jerry West won none. If I'm mistaken, Is Jerry West

(28:25):
ever want to work. I'm not sure. I know he
went to the finals a bunch of time. I don't
think you ever won it. And then somebody sit on
on social media that they tried the Jordan logo years ago,
but Jordan owns it and his actual company would lose millions.
So that's three so why. I don't know if that's
true or not, but I would love to see Kobe's logo.
Kobe on that logo? All right, Well, Kobe will be
honored with the Basketball Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty,
so he's part of that. Jerry West one one ring

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is a player and for as a general manager. Okay,
all right, that's commendable. What a general manager? Don't count?
That's a player, Kobe one five. Look, I'm all for it.
Let's change it. Unless I like the way that logo looks.
I think that would be amazing. So, and the NBA
has also postponed the Lakers versus Clippers game that was
supposed to be tonight at the Staples Center. They said

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that decision was made out of respect for the Lakers organization,
which is deeply grieving the tragic loss of Lakers legend
Kobe Bryant. His daughter Gianna, and seven other people in
a helicopter crash. They said the game will be rescheduled
at a later day. Selfishly, I was looking forward to
that game because I saw that on the schedule, and
I said, man, the universe is wild, the fact that
the Clippers and the Lakers are playing. We're supposed to

(29:32):
play tonight. I thought it was gonna be very special,
you know. I was like, yo, Lebronic Kawhid gonna score
eighty one point. Somebody gonna do something very Kobe yesque.
I don't know, I thought so Selfishly, I was hoping
that happened. I think they should cancel all Laker games
until his funeral. Until after the funeral. I'm not sure
when the funeral is, but I think they should cancel
it until after that, you know, because it's the Lakers,

(29:52):
their organization. I'm sure they're gonna have the funeral at
the Staple Center, but I think they should just cancel
to after let them grief. All right, Well that is
your front page news. All right. Let me shout out
my uncle, my uncle, Chief Jimmy Secredo. He's retiring after
forty years of being a chief and working for the NYPD.
In New York City. So I just want to say

(30:15):
congratulations and a happy retirement. Gave me a lot of
advice throughout the years and helped me out a lot
of stuff, save my ass a couple of times. So
I just want to say thank you, Uncle Jimmy. Yes,
I'm sure he needed and he needed your help, yeah
many of times. Yes. All right, now, listen, we got
one of my spiritual advisors coming in, someone who I
love listening to, someone who I love talking to, building with. Um.

(30:38):
There's really nobody that I would want to speak to
more in this moment. Probably maybe a woman at the
Lows for I can't definitely, but Bishop td Jakes for sure. Okay,
yes he'll be here. All right, we'll kick it with
Bishop td Jakes. Will we come back to help us
make sense to some of this stuff? Or maybe he won't. Yeah,
it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Everybody

(31:01):
is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We are
to Breakfast Club. We got a special guests in the buildings. Indeed,
TD Jakes, Bishop the Drip Jakes. I'm gonna tell you something.
There's nobody I would rather talk to this morning, other
than you thank you like like like hearts are heavy?
You know why the tragic acts accident that happened to
mister Kobe Bryant, his daughter and all the other folks

(31:23):
on the plane. Hell, how do you make the helicopter?
How do you make sense of that? Like? How could
that have been God's plan? You don't make sense of it.
You endure it, you survive it, you grieve, you go
through the process. I think where we get in trouble,
it's when we try to explain and understand things that
are unexplainable. Right now, we got to survive it because
our whole nation has taken a blow. The family and

(31:46):
particular sports fans, other athletes are are grieving right now,
and I think that to try to explain something like
you know more than you know, we don't know. They're
still investigating what happened, whether it's human error, there was
the weather or the climate, all of those play a
factor in it. We look for somebody to blame. How
could God allow that to happen? Or this or that

(32:07):
or the other. But right now, tragic things happen in
life every day. But this is a person that we
knew and loved and a part of our community. It's
okay to be sad, it's okay to grieve, it's okay
to go through those range of emotions anger and being
upset and what have you. But at the end of
the day, we're in a survival mode right now. Now,
what do you tell somebody who's on a fence with

(32:29):
religion and believing and they see something like this and
they say, wow, you know, he had a thirteen year
old that died, and there was other tweens on that
plane that died. What do you tell that person for
faith and how they can continue to believe. I think
it is your faith that gets you through those unexplainable moments.
And I think you'll have to realize it's terrible and
as tragic as it was. We're grateful his wife wasn't

(32:50):
on board. We're grateful the whole family wasn't on board.
I look for things that are positive in the midst
of the pain. Not denying the pain, but I look
for things that are positive. As for trying to get
somebody to believe who doesn't believe you, really, you really
can't do that because God can't be explained, He must
be revealed. And you have to have an open heart
to allow that to happen in your life. Yeah, And

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if you believe God does everything for a reason, you
can't only believe that when the positive things happen, right, Absolutely,
because many times the positive things come out of the
most horrific things in our lives. I mean, you look
at your own life. Sometimes the worst tragedies brought you
into an awareness or sensibility over years that if this
hadn't happened, that hadn't happened. Time will judge the validity

(33:35):
of the situation. Right now, we have to endure, and
you still have to lift up the family members of
who have lost somebody right now, and the daughters and
his wife and all the family members of the other
people who are on the helicopter too, and they lost
somebody completely different from who we know. When you're famous,
people know you from what you do, But your family

(33:56):
knows you from who you are, and it's a much
deeper loss. It's a greater kind of pain, and it's
very difficult to get through. I listen to a sermon
you gave on us Timber twenty second title keep it Moving,
and it almost seems like keeping it moving after death
seems insensitive. So how do you keep it moving? You
have to keep it moving because life keeps moving, because

(34:19):
bills keep moving, because illnesses keep moving, threats keep moving,
problems don't stop because you're in pain. And so sometimes
the therapy is in keeping it moving. But of course
when you're the family, you have to shut down for
a minute and breathe and recalibrate. And it may be
over the next two years or twenty years. Let you
feel that pain. My mother died in ninety nine, and

(34:40):
if I think about it hard now, I'll get emotional.
I mean because and I don't even want that to
go away. I don't even want that to go away.
Because sometimes the sadness validates the value of what you lost.
It plain that a little more. With the sadness. The sadness,
the greater the sadness, it's an indication that the greater
the love. Some people don't feel sadness because they don't
feel love. Then if you're a great lover, you have

(35:03):
great pain when people leave your life. And to the
degree that we miss and we feel that pain in
that pain, in many ways is a tribute to the
significance of that individual in your life. Are there times
that you question your own faith? And is that a
common thing for people to do, to just question. I
used to answer that question and say no, and then
I went through something and said you and I have

(35:23):
to say yes. I have gone through those moments where
I was in grief and wondered, you know, why did
you allow this to happen. I was a little bit
angry with God. I healed, I got over it, I
was okay. But I have had those moments of challenge.
We have to remember that faith does not mean the
absence of doubt. Faith and doubt cohabitated in the same space.

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And to be completely honest about it, that faith is
something we believe, but what we like to do is no.
And you cannot know. You have to believe. That's the
whole premise of being a believer is to believe that
which you cannot see. And you have to do that
in the presence of voices of doubt who are telling
you it's not worth it. It's just like going to work.
Sometimes you don't want to go, but there's another voice

(36:08):
says you gotta go, and you're conflicted, and yet you
keep it moving. And I think a lot of times
people are trying to get out of the conflict. But
the conflict is a part of life, and we're all
conflicted from time to time, and yet we find a
way to keep it moving. That's right. There was a
time you said you thought about leaving the ministry. Yes,
I've absolutely been there and went through when I first

(36:30):
got in, especially National International ministry. All the things that
come along with that are hard to manage, notoriety, interviews, bloggers,
or last lastly reports. Mine was the Washington Post article
and I wasn't used to that, and I come from
West Virginia. I'm a country boy, and I thought, I

(36:51):
don't I didn't sign up for this. I don't need that.
But the reality is this one woman came into a
book signing and changed my life. She had just gotten
out the hospital. She'd had a tubal pregnancy and the
baby was dead and she was living with a dead
body body inside of her, so it almost killed her.
She was very weak. She got out of the hospital

(37:14):
against the doctor's request and came to me as if
she knew what I was thinking, and said, it's for
us that you do it, it's not for them. And
when you go through moments of challenge and pain. You
have to find purpose, and sometimes you forget why you
do what you do and why you must endure or
what you endure it. And she she moved me like

(37:36):
in a major way. If it wasn't for that woman
coming that day and talking to me, I don't know
that I would have been in ministry. Now, Well, we'll
do the Rightious always have to suffer. Everybody sufferers. Everybody sufferers.
The emblem of Christianity is across. That's a big warning
that if God's spared not his son, He's not going
to spare you. Everybody goes through suffering, no matter how

(37:57):
rich you are, no matter how poor year are, no
matter how famous you are, no matter whether you're homeless
or living in the mansion. We were all born and
we are all going to die. Yeah. Death is not
discriminated at all. Yeah, that's not discriminated. Would you want
to know? Because that's we were talking about that this morning.
I was saying that it's yesterday morning. It was the
unexpectedness of death. I think that would you would you

(38:19):
want to know? No? I wouldn't want to know. No,
I wouldn't want to know. Some people feel differently about it,
but I wouldn't want to know. I wanted to surprise me.
I don't want to live waiting on a date to leave.
I want to live every day to the fullest, not
with the cloud hanging over my head about a date
that could be twenty years off, for thirty years off,
and then to adjust my life to dying. I'd rather

(38:41):
build my life around living and let death find me
whenever it does. All right, we got more with Bishop
td Jakes. When we come back, don't move. It's the
Breakfast Club, Good Morning Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne,
the God. We are the Breakfast Club. Were still kicking
it with Bishop td Jakes. What do you feel towards suicide?
Because you hear so many different things with suicide. If

(39:03):
you're suicide, you'll never make it to heaven. If you're suicide,
God to look at you. What are your thoughts on suicide?
So many kids are the first thing that popped into
my mind when you said that, it's not whether you
go to heaven or not. I think we should work
harder to stop suicide. I think that suicide is epidemic,
particularly amongst African American young people in a way that's reprehensible.

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One of the reasons that I started the foundation that
we're going to talk about is because of mental health.
And mental health is a huge issue in our community.
And I think you have to understand that a lot
of people who take their life, they really didn't take
their life. The sickness did. So the person who we
say committed suicide is as much a victim as if

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they were a victim of a homicide, because if you
have emotional mental health issues, it affects your decisions and
your judgment and your view of life. So to judge that,
who am I I'm not God, So where they spend eternity,
I'm not God. But I do think that the person
is a victim, and I would think that if you're
a victim, we just believe that they're in a better place.

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You're one of the first, you know, people at the
cloth that actually embraced you know, therapy and you know,
telling people to go out then you know, get help
for them mental health because a lot of times we
tell a lot of people take it to the church
just pray about just pray about it, and we don't
treat it like it's a sickness. We treat it like
it's a spiritual issue and it's a health issue. And
I think you'll have to differentiate one from another. Sure
you're going to pray, but you also do everything you

(40:29):
can do to be at the best that you can be.
And I do think the prayers they are beauty, but
it is not enough for a lot of people who
have serious trauma that they've endured and they need to
be able to talk, they need to be able to heal,
and sometimes they have chemical imbalances. It causes them to
be where they are. I got to teach her that says,
I go to therapy and I pray, absolutely, do it all. Absolutely,

(40:49):
I take blood pressure medicty to pray over it every day.
Pray it works and let it work. Jesus, you announced
planning to launch your own online Jake's Divinity School. Yeah,
it has launched. It's up and running. It's everything that
I'm doing now is about training the next generations. It's

(41:09):
empowering them to accomplish their dreams, to reach their goals.
I'm leveraging my relationships and academics, and I'm levering my
relationships with corporate America to create a pipeline because a
lot of us, the only pipeline we have to the
world we want to be is the one we see
on TV. But you'll never watch TV long enough to

(41:29):
get there. So we have to stop watching our dreams
and start creating a pathway where we can facilitate our dreams.
I'll see more and more young people coming to church now,
see that more? Or is it's slowing down a little bit?
You know? That's a that's a great question. I think
it varies from church to church and from region to region.
I see a lot of young people who are really
interested in faith. Many of them are coming to church.

(41:52):
My demos are swinging younger and younger. Fifty percent of
my church as millennials. So I'm seeing a huge interest
in young people coming to church. But I also am
seeing a deterioration of attendance because a lot of young
people yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And you want to
watch what do you want to watch it? So we
stream twenty four hours a day. We scream all week

(42:14):
long because young people stay up at night and I
often sleep late in the morning. Nothing like what doing
your laundry watching Bishop TV? See what I'm saying I'm
working out in the gym. Yeah, I do. I mean
I arride in the morning. I put one of your
storm as long. Was it from YouTube or was it
the podcast? That's how I consume it. But I've been
to part of house as well. Yes, your head. There's
nothing like being a part of house. It's different. It

(42:35):
is different being there from watching it on TV. You
can get a perception on TV. But I think when
I was here before, I talked about the difference between
a picture and an ultrasound. When you actually go in it,
you see it from a whole different perspective than when
you're avoid your onluse. I feel like a college basketball game,
I'm saying. It had that kind of energy like it
like a college basketball Any impact from Kanye doing what

(42:57):
he's been doing with his Sunday services, you know something,
I'm thrill anybody who's out there who's doing something positive
to help change the world, I'm thrilled about it. I
just hope that while he's busy doing that, that somebody's
taking care of him, because the problem with being talented
and being gifted and being good intention is sometimes people
are so excited about your gift that they take your

(43:19):
gift and leave you behind. And I think it's very
very important for him in order to remain stable and
remain functional, that he's not so busy giving to us
that nobody's giving to him. But I've seen the music.
The music is hot. I've seen it performances. I think
it's absolutely wonderful. But I want somebody there's a scription

(43:40):
the Bible says, no man cared for my soul. I
want us to care for his soul as much as
we care for his music. I would definitely consider doing
something like that. My focus, however, is everybody's hosting him,
who's pastoring him? Yeah, you understand what I'm saying. And
sometimes I don't want to be seen as a gig.

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I don't want to be seen as an opportunity. I
want to be an year sometimes for people who don't
have anybody to talk to. So I don't want to
be in the crowd that reaching after him, trying to
snatch his gift. I want to be the guy who's
sitting over in the corner saying, hey, are you okay?
How are you balanced? How are you emotionally? How are
you mentally? Because we're seeing too many of our artists

(44:23):
drift away, be killed, commit suicide. Nobody was investing into
that mental right, well right, And you need somebody around
you who doesn't just want you for what you do,
to say are you okay? Think of the culture shock
it is to go from being in the hood one
moment to being a celebrity next moment, with no training,

(44:47):
no preparation, no therapy, and all of a sudden you
step into this world and you can't get out. Once
you're famous, you can never be anonymous. So your success
can become your prison. And so if you're going to
realize that, and you're going to recognize that, we have
to in our community have to be slow to join

(45:09):
the bandwagon of stoning people who got into trouble. We
have to be more on the side of the ambulance
who rushes to the scene of the crime to see
what we can do, because we are hurting too. We
know that you are hurting, and we know how to
speak the kind of language to get you back up on.
I like to reduce people to their mistakes a lot
of times, absolutely absolutely, while we make our own. And

(45:31):
so we're all trying to figure out life in the
moment you figure it out. It changes. You go through
stages at different ages, and different ages bring on different challenges,
and nobody gets it right every turn because every turn
is a new experience and you're back to one again
and you're learning again. As soon as you get used
to having little kids, they're not little kids. As soon

(45:53):
as you get used to having teenagers, they've left the house.
And everything keeps changing on us all the time. You
never get to be a master at your life because
of courses keep changing. You know a ball all right, well,
don't move. We got more with Bishop td Jakes when
we come back as the Breakfast Club, Good morning pj
Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the God we are. The Breakfast

(46:16):
Club was still kicking it with Bishop td Jakes. When
your people come to church, what are they looking for?
You know, when my grandmother went to church, you wanted
to hope, She wanted to make sure that her family
was okay, and she had an opportunity. So what are
people coming to church for now? Because it's different now
my kids are online. They look for certain things. They
have more questions and require more answers. So what are
people looking for now when they come to church? You know,

(46:37):
I think it varies from person to person. I think
hope has a factor degree. And then like we're bleeding
right now, we're talking about Kobe right now. It reminds
us of how the brevity of life. It reminds us
that we don't take time for ourselves. It reminds us
that there is a life after this life. And so
people start to think about faith differently. But I also
think that people come to the Black Church differently than

(47:00):
they do for other people who come to church. They
look for our leaders to be involved in the community
in some way. They look for our levels of quantifiable results.
How does this help me right now, in the here
and now, not the sweet by and by inspiration the inspiration.
And there's one other thing I want to bring up

(47:21):
that call these people to come to church. If you
come to church consistently, church becomes a family. And for
many of us, that's something we didn't have right I
learned sometimes it's not so much about pastoring our young man,
it's about fathering them. I got a few more questions,
how long can you go without tipping the water, because
even when I watch you sermons, never been answer that question. Incidentally,

(47:44):
I don't know I can go a pretty good way.
I don't think to go for the water. Yeah, when
I get to speaking or teaching, the only thing I'm
thinking about is what I'm doing. We had a discussion
the other day about when you go into confession or
right if they have a responsibility when say, someone commits
a crime and they go and confess that. Now, if
someone comes to you and they does something, and they've

(48:05):
done something illegal and they tell you that, is that
something that you feel a responsibility to report to the
authorities or is that something that becomes this was a
confidential conversation. Well, you have the same kind of privilege,
said an attorney does when somebody comes and discloses something
to you. And that's important because nobody's going to come

(48:25):
talk to you about something if they feel like they're
going to get reported. There are some exceptions to that, however,
when it comes to child abuse, Yes, you are legally
required that if you know it, you absolutely have to
report it. There are other issues that are kind of
on the borderline where you have to use your best judgment,
but it has to be serious for you to violate

(48:45):
the confidential herd. If I came to you and I'm
gonna shoo Charlomagne tomorrow. That's serious. And the very fact
that the very God wouldn't like that, and the very
fact that the very fact that it's that it is,
and I'm going to I have an obligation to prevent
that from But if it was already done, yeah, then
that's what and how long ago was it done? And

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what can be accomplished by exposing that? It's a judgment
called Have you ever had to do that? I've done everything? Wow,
And sometimes I have claimed my privilege as a clergyman
not to testify in a trial. And that privilege is
only held up in court if it is just you
and me in the room. If one other person is

(49:29):
in the room, or if somebody else was on the phone,
it violates. I didn't lose that privilege and that ability
not to speak about the issue. I heard you on
over Super Soul Conversations, your latest one to transform your life,
and you spoke about how to use transformational thinking and
moving beyond your limiting beliefs. What does that look like
to you? You know, everything is about a change your mind.

(49:53):
If I change your economic status, but I don't change
your mentality. Your status will fall back down to your mindset.
Every change, weight, loss, health, changes, whatever it is, starts
in the way you think. And until you begin to
deal with the story you tell yourself and are willing
to challenge your own truth, you can't really help a

(50:16):
person to move forward when they hold to their old story.
Well what about when you're not ready for that transformation?
Because I was thinking this morning, how can transformational thinking
help you in matters of grief? Because when you look
at a situation like you know, the Brian family, her
whole life has been transformed and she has to change
the way she thinks moving forward. But she didn't ask

(50:37):
for that. No, you didn't ask for it. Nobody wants
that sort of thing to happen, and it takes time.
You don't change your mind overnight about anything, whether it's
a tragedy or whether it's a decision to go back
to school. They're the feeling of misplacement. Anytime there's a change,
a big change in your life, and give yourself time
to adapt to that change and accept that change, and

(51:00):
then figure out who am I now without Kobe in
my life? Who am I now without this job? You
can have a new year, all you want to, but
until you have a new youth, having a new year
doesn't matter. I want to tell you too, I finally
got the worthy man. Really it hit me over the holidays,
but I honestly just felt worthy of existing. It really did. Yeah,

(51:24):
I remember that conversation we had. Getting to worthy is
difficult when you have been abused or traumatized, or be
a little degraded, or have some issues in your past
where you and if you don't get to worthy, you
self sabotage. You can self sabotage opportunities because you say

(51:45):
you want them, but then you sabotage them because you
really don't feel worthy of them. The hardest thing in
the world is to love somebody who doesn't love themselves,
because they will reject your love. They'll cancel it out
every time because they don't feel worthy of being of
I don't believe that you could love me because I
don't love me, so how could you love me? And
that happens more times than not in relationships, in life

(52:09):
and in business. And when I challenge you to get
to worthy, it is getting to the place that you
accept the good things that God has done in your
life and settling in as them being your reality rather
than living the trauma of where you came from. Absolutely, well,
we appreciate you for joining us this morning. Yeah. And
he's got the International Leadership Summit in Charlotte April thirty

(52:30):
of the May second. Yeah, and I'm gonna invite you
right on the heart, pulling up. I will really, man,
I'm pulling up already, had Man, you don't make me
crowd you. So I'm seriously enough if you would come,
that would mean everything to me because when I'm this
is the most amazing event I'm bringing together. I've got
Denzel Washington coming, I've got Tyler Perry coming. I've got

(52:51):
Dave Stewart coming. Dave Stewart, it's one of thirteen black
billionaires in the world and he's also a believer, and
he's going to be coming. We're gonna be having Christian speakers,
pastors that are going to be speaking. We've got women
who are CEOs and executives that are going to be
mentoring the young women at The Leadership Conference is going
to be in Charlotte at April twenty eighth through the

(53:13):
thirty first, And it's just a conglomerate of a lot
of different things because I don't want to just be
inspirational and not transformational, because if I keep inspiring you
and it doesn't happen, then you get tired of hearing
that it's gonna be all right. So I want to
put the elements in the room that cause us that

(53:34):
it's gonna be all right to happen in your life.
People who pull themselves up, people who fought back, people
who want when you know better, you do better. And
that's why I'm having the leadership conference were the mental
health and I'm putting myself on it. Come right on, OK,
I gotta see what day because you know, you know
so many people heard you and I talk about when
you did your book and the power of your book

(53:56):
and the power of your story. It helped a lot
of other people to begin to beginning to be able
to talk. You're opening your mouth to speak about your
life and about your childhood became a model for many
other black men who don't talk enough. So I take
you very seriously in that spot. I admire you very

(54:16):
greatly for what you're doing and having the boldness to
speak about that, and I look forward to doing a
lot of things with you that I think it's very important,
my brother Rae. It's Bishop td Jakes. Thank you for
joining us again. It's been a real pleasure. Thanks for
having me. It's the Breakfast Club, Morning Morning. Everybody is
DJ MVY Angela Yee, Charlemagne the God. We are the

(54:37):
Breakfast Club droving a clue box with Bishop td Jakes. Yes,
I needed that word this morning. Only the only thing
I'm mad we didn't close out in the prayer, you
know what, and we usually do that in the prayer.
May God damn it. We should say that miss in
a prayer. May God knows my heart. God cares if
you say damn it after his name. He might, yes, please,

(54:58):
he might care about that too. But let's get to
the rumors. Let's talk Shock. This is the rum of
report Well. Shack opened up on his podcast The Big
Podcast with Shock last night and he spoke on having

(55:18):
a really tough time with losses, including the death of
his sister as well as Kobe. I'm not doing well.
I'm sick. I'm just getting over the death of my sister.
And I haven't been sleeping after Asia's death because it's
just you know, not thinking about just the good times,
but thinking about the times when I could have did something,

(55:40):
or could have did something different, or could have loved
them more. And the same thing hit when I found
out this news. I didn't do anything. I ever eating,
I slept. I'm sick right now now. Her sister passed
in October. She died from cancer. Here's more of what
Shack got to say about his relationship with Kobe. Our

(56:01):
relationship was that of brothers. When I saw Kobe and
his daughters loved them, he saw my kids love them.
If you look at my kids this Instagram. He talked
to Sharif yesterday morning. He was checking in on your son,
so not an hour before his death. So all the
stuff that this document between us, it was never a dislike.
It's just listen, this is what brothers do. I have

(56:22):
a younger brother. We fight all the time. But guess what,
I love them, and I love Kobe Bryant. I'm the
first to say, hey, I got four rings, and I
know I couldn't have got three without him, So I'm
glad we became closer. But I just sit back and
say what if? What if? And the only thing that
saidened to me is he's not gonna be here when
he walks into the Hall of Fame, said they actually

(56:46):
won three NBA championships in a row together. Yeah. I
saw an idiot yesterday say, finally y'all want to put
Kobe Bryant in the Hall of Fame. Dumbass. This is
his first year of eligibility and he's a nominee this year,
and he was gonna be a first ballot Hall of
Famer anyway, foolish as all right, Well, Shaquille O'Neil's son, Sharif,
actually had just spoken to Kobe that morning. Kobe had

(57:08):
sent him a DM you good, fam, and Sharif responded, Yeah,
just getting this work in, trying to figure out my
next move. How you've been And that was in the morning, ya,
all right. Now, in addition to that, Kobe was actually
working on a kid's book, and the author of The
Alchemist was actually the person working on with him, Paulo Koelo,

(57:29):
and he revealed that he put up some dms where
Kobe had actually sent to him, let's write that book together,
and he responded anytime. And this was just last year.
So now Koelo said he deleted the draft. He said
it didn't make any sense to publish without him it
wouldn't add anything to relevant to him or his family.
That doesn't stop me from writing some day about things

(57:50):
I learned from Kobe and how much of a larger
than life person he was. But the children's book did
not make sense anymore. Yeah, he put out the children's
book last year. I forgot what I think it's called
The Wizard the Ward the Wizard series that the with
an large series or something like that. But The Alchemist
is one of Kobe's favorite books, so even had recommended
it to Kyrie Irving. Also, all right, now, speaking of books,

(58:11):
let's talk about Oprah's book club, because people are upset
about the novel that Oprah has chosen for her book club,
and you know she does. She does her club on
Apple right, and the book is called American Dirt by
Jeanine Cummings. Now, a lot of people criticize there for
having this book be the next book that she's featuring.

(58:33):
And here's how Oprah responded. So when I first started
to hear your comments opposing the selection, I was asking
the question in earnest, like what is offensive. I've spent
the past few days listening to members of the Latin
Next community, and I hear them. So what I want

(58:54):
to do is bring people together from all sides to
talk about this book and who gets to publish what stories?
All Right, The problem is it's a white woman who
is writing about Mexican migrants and she got over a
million dollars by the way to do this book. And
the book is also going to be adapted into a movie.

(59:17):
And so there's a lot of criticism because the Latin
X people are not represented in the publishing world, and
they certainly don't get those deals like that when they
write about their own experiences. And they said, even in
the book, there's a lot of things that aren't even true,
like she calls her mom a boila and you know
that's grandmother in Spanish, and just other certain things that
she does in the book that are not authentic to

(59:39):
the experience. So they have problems with that with American
Dirt also, they said there's some plagiarism. There's a lot
of similarities to other authors works. In particular, there's a
similarity to author Aurea, who writes about and one of
his characters in his book and it's a nonfiction book
getting crushed by the tires of a garbage truck and

(01:00:00):
she has a very similar scene in her novel as well.
So basically, it's too much mayonnaise when it needs to
be more goyas, which exactly, and Latinos make up only
six percent of the literary industry according to a study
on diversity, and the nation is close to twenty percent Latinos.
What is the book actually about? Is it about the
Latin X community. Yeah, it's a fictional novel and it's

(01:00:20):
about Mexican migrants, something that she has not experienced. A
lot of things they said aren't even factual that she
writes about in the book, and she had a million
dollars for it. Yeah, but you know, when you do
a fictional book, you still want to be true to
what the experience is like, like you're writing about places
in Mexico that don't even exist anymore, or saying that

(01:00:40):
you're putting sour cream on tacos industry, just certain things,
calling the mom abuela when that really means grandmother. That. Yeah,
I'm not defending this Mannaid's flavored mail, but just to
play white devil's advocate. If it's a fiction book, I
don't know if you got to be actual and factual.
I think it's just be actual to what the experience
would be like if it really was in Mexico. Yeah, no,

(01:01:02):
it's it's a fabricated but it's supposed to be. It's
a it's a fictional book. But you know, like if
somebody's writing about a Monk's Corner, you want them to
actually name like real streets. You can't write about a
real place. I'm gonna say the spaceships there. I'm gonna
say there's all types of things there because well it
wasn't like that. It was. It was supposed to seem
like it was real, because you could have a fictional book,
you know, set in a real place with the stories.

(01:01:24):
You know, it's fake, fake, it's not a sci fi
or anything like about. Think about all of these books
that have been written about New York, all these movies
that have done about New York. I Am Legend is
a fictional movie, but it was based in New York.
Avengers if they fought here in New York when it
was a fictional shut up, Yeah, I mean you can't.
You can't do things like you can't do things like
caul your mother abuela when Abella means grandmother in Spanish.

(01:01:46):
That's just incorrect. You get it, okay? Well they also
they also what if your mom is somebody's grandma but
not yours. Yeah, don't confuse me this morning like my
mama Grammy and I'll play with her sometimes like hey,
what's up, Grammy? You know what I mean? You're saying,

(01:02:07):
are you defending this now? I just said, well, I'm
just telling you. I'm just telling you what the controversy
is behind all of this though, and the outrage, and
they actually did have to cancel There was a book
signing that she was supposed to be doing. They actually
had to cancel it because of all this controversy, uh
surrounding it and people are upset that, Oprah, why don't

(01:02:28):
you use one of these authors that write about authentic
experiences that are actually Latin Latino that can tell those
stories better? Can you see it? Only six percent? Yes? Wow?
In the publishing world. All right, that is your room
of report. I'm angela ye all right, thank you, miss ye.
All right, Shanah, sorry, hearing that don't get you. I
need Terry Crews to come to the front of the congregation.

(01:02:48):
We like to have a world with him to bring
this hog to slaughter. All right, he's gonna come to
then coach to the congreg with no shirt on and
we get to that next keeper lockedice to Breakfast Club
goal morning morning. Everybody is steere mv Angela, yee, Charlemagne
the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a
special guest in the building this morning. We have Steve
Stout here this morning morning. What do we even call
Steve Stout? Now, I was gonna call him, I don't know.

(01:03:09):
It's entrepreneur, executive business, connecting the guy everything. I've been
doing it for a while. I'll take it off. Played
all the positions in the field now. You know. One
of the reasons why we wanted to talk to you
this morning is is I know that you had a
close relationship with Kobe. I know you got him his
first deals, first signed him his first record deal, and

(01:03:29):
I think I first on the first time he came
to New York. I remember seeing him at the Rocket Park.
I'm not sure if he was You're the one that
we him into playing at the Rock at that time too, well, yeah,
he um as a rookie. UM. I met him and
he wanted to put out an album and he was
actually part of a group and I signed a group
over at Columbia UM track Masses. We signed him and

(01:03:52):
we were just coming off of like Llo cool J
and Will Smith and you know, we thought we could
make this thing work. And who also was in the group.
There's a guys from Philly Guys High School with UM
and he stayed in New York, Man and he spent
a lot of time with with NAS, with Foxy, like
really trying to acclimate himself to UM, to what he

(01:04:14):
was gonna you know, to do as a as an artist, Uh,
to learn. And that's the thing that I got from him, Um,
is that when he decided to do something, he went
so all in envy. I mean, I've seen in my
life maybe three four people with the work ethic that
this man had, and it was just, I mean just
beyond in anything. I mean just beyond um. You know.

(01:04:38):
So anyhow, he came to New York and he lived
at me for a month, UM while we were making
that album and and and during that time we became
really close friends. And we became friends and you know,
last up until you know, his unfortunate passing. Yeah, I
saw you uh to get his last game he ever played.
He gave you a game, ball gave you. Yeah, we

(01:04:59):
were the last game he played. And um, it's unfortunate, man,
it's it's stuff. We lost. We lost a hero and
he was now. The thing about it that's crazy was
that he was now entering this comfortable state of giving
away his magic, that sort the tips of the science.
Like he was giving it away that special athletes, they'd

(01:05:21):
come to see him and get coached up. But he
but as a businessman, he started to give away a
lot of those insights that would be helpful to all
of us. Where were you when you heard the news?
I was in the crib and I got the note. Um,
and then you kind of want to believe that tmzs fake,

(01:05:42):
and then you realize that TMZ hasn't been wrong in years, Like,
it's not fake. They kill Wayne? They killed Wayne? They
did Okay, look all right, well I did see that.
I was like, when I wait for some other outlets
to verify, to verify, well, you pray that it's wrong,
and you you know, you also have a little Yeah,

(01:06:02):
one eye opened with with TMZ. But that's how I
first heard about it, and then I made phone calls. Um,
we worked with the NBA and then you know, obviously
through the NBA and um mutual friends, it was it
was confirmed that it was real two months ago. Yeah. Um,
it was a great He was really going into that

(01:06:23):
that like hitting his stride as a businessman. He had
it all set up, man, Um, you guy he leaves
the game a year later wins an oscar. It's these
are just crazy things, man, that he put out in
the world. He and his daughter. I mean, first of all,
God blessed the other families that were you know, lost
ones on that on that helicopter. And his daughter, Um,

(01:06:43):
I mean she was the next Hymn. I mean, she
had that dedication and focus. He was proud. He was
very outspoken about women's college basketball and the w NBA,
and he was like, uh, the facto name and face
behind um growing that sport. He believed in it, Um,
and his daughter was gonna, you know, obviously go that route. Um.

(01:07:06):
And just to know the poetic justice of it all,
like this guy passed taking his daughter to a game, man,
you know, like that's that's what he was doing. So
it's tough, Um, and it it reminds you and we
always get reminded I'm sure we all had these kinds
of moments in our life that you gotta give people

(01:07:27):
their flowers in their lives. You gotta tell me, and
you gotta live every life. You live your life like
you're not promised tomorrow. And you know, it's easy to
forget that. It's very easy within um, the day to
day of it all, um, and things that come thrown
at you, to forget that you're not promised tomorrow. Does
it make you question your own mortality? No way? Yeah? Always. Um.

(01:07:49):
You know, at every at every funeral, every time there's
a death, you think about you know, are you for
me rather? Um? Am? I living my life the way
I want to live it, am I. You know, if
words were spoken about me, have I done enough to
to deserve the words that I that I would once
said about me? Depends who speaking? Al Right, Well I'm

(01:08:11):
not I'm not here. I would just say in general,
you see all the people who have great positive things
to say about their experiences and their relationships with Kobe,
and I think that's the legacy everybody should want to
leave behind. Look, that's that's that's that's the point of
what we all doing this thing for, right You have.
That's the whole point of having kids and um leaving

(01:08:33):
a great example so that that multiplies generation after generation.
So you would want to leave a mark on this
earth and instill values in your family so that um,
those learnings couldn't be uh multiplied, they could they could
do something for generations. And I feel like I've always

(01:08:53):
felt like this, that you we are all blessed and
your job is to take full advantage of the opportunities
that you have. I've always felt like I was. My
dad taught me this, like no matter whether I was
in the music business or a mechanic, Like, you got
to really go as hard as you can at the

(01:09:15):
thing that you're doing. It's like there's no reason not to.
That's that's almost the privilege and the obligation to do that.
And all the great people that I've ever had the
privilege to be around, they've lived their life that way.
They never got satisfied. They never And you'd be looking
at me, you ever look at people who in the
greatest shape, and you're like, you see them running every day,

(01:09:37):
Like damn, I why they're already in great shape? Why
that's how they're in great shape? Right? You see people
who are successful in business or successful in life, You're like,
why are they still going so hard? They don't even
have an off switch. They don't even know what you're
talking about. It's like a book mastering, like Robert Green,
where he talks about mastering whatever it is that you
want to do, and how many hours it took for

(01:09:57):
certain people to master their arts and their or whatever
it is that they want to be great at. Ever
stop you you never stopped. If I've seen uh Damon
on the show that the last the last last week
or whatever, and he talked about how much you guys
have evolved, you can't see it, but you don't even
understand how super professional that you guys have evolved to

(01:10:22):
over the last five years, seven years. But the evolution
of what And it's because you come in every day
and you care, and you guys are obviously a family,
and you have committed to one another to care. So
when you interview politicians or it doesn't make a difference
who it is, you feel that you are each play
yer role, you add to the subject, you get the

(01:10:44):
most out of the interview. But I couldn't have said
that five years ago, right, I respected, Yeah, that's what
broke was about. All right, we got more with Steve
Statt when we come back. Don't move as to breakfast Club.
Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne
the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still sitting
here with Steve Stout. Since you talk about working with

(01:11:05):
the NBA United Masters, what is that deal to say
you're providing the music. Oh, yeah, that's that's awesome. Not
only did we so we were always working with the
NBA on music, but now we did this relationship between
Apple and the NBA and United Masses where we're basically
creating the greatest playlist for independent artists. So Apple and

(01:11:27):
the NBA are promoting these artists that are coming to
United Masters to create the greatest playlists for independent artists.
I don't want to think rap caviare but only for
independent artists. And this is just another step forward, and
you guys are seeing it for sure. The legacy record
companies are slowly losing their hold on controlling talent. The

(01:11:51):
thing that I learned, and you've learned this in your
individual businesses, is back in the day, you had to
go to a record company first, to find an audience,
or you had to go to a radio station first
to find an audience. Right in your business, you actually
can find an audience before you find the radio. You
can find the audience before you find the record company.

(01:12:13):
So now you have the control. And that's all I've
been saying for the last two years. But United Masses
is like in the beginning it was fuzzy, like what
is this to distribution company? What does that mean? Or
what it means is if you found your audience before
you had a record company, you have all the leverage.
You don't have to work for them. In fact, they
should license it from you. That's what a partnership is

(01:12:36):
all about. A lot of what Damon has was saying
back in the days. Pardon his delivery, but he was
really talking about that, right, like, you already control our culture,
controls the opportunity. We already can build the audience. So
why do you need to then turn that over to
somebody else to own when you could retain it and

(01:12:57):
they can just license it. And that's that's been my
with the record business. Not that the record business is wrong,
but what used to be the way or the only way,
it's no longer the way at all. We've been the
launching pad for a few actes yet little tacker um,
y'all see from the time NLA Shopper game. Here see

(01:13:17):
what took man, And I've done this in broaddaylight. This
this is broadday light, Like, oh my god, Steve stops
putting his career in I know, I'm putting your intelligence
on the line. Really think alike, like you guys are
just you almost like when when the business moves your
mentality the mindset to the fact that you guys conflict

(01:13:39):
all that. Yes, y'all, I think hip hop has understood
that really well right and often that's probably where um
the similarities end, where the differences coming style, delivery, approach, um, consistency, persistence.
I don't know, do you guys still have conversation just now,

(01:14:00):
because I know he said you all had a conversation
and said no, I mean, I've seen him at Kanye Stinging.
I told him like you were a lot of things
that you said you were right, but your delivery was
off and the evolution of us as men um. I

(01:14:23):
would probably had never told him that at thirty five,
but I probably didn't realize that at thirty five, you know,
but at you know, forty nine years old. I could
easily tell him that, and it's no problem. I could.
By the way, I have no problem with it with anybody. Um,
I'm on the other side of it now. I'm I'm
already Steve stout Man, I'm cool. How much longer did

(01:14:44):
these legacy companies have because I can see all of
these artists getting out there deals, Like you know, Meek
mil got like one album left. I think he got
like one album left. I think Drake might have what
I went out and I can see all of them
get out there. Drake, by the way, Drake, Drake is
about to catch him bag? Really, oh god, from you
might catch the biggest bat I got ever received from
individual artists, from arts, from yeah, from from labels, from anybody.

(01:15:07):
Maybe he may catch the biggest bag of recording artists
ever received period upfront? What's the science behind that? When
you do just creat Apple Exclusive, he's the biggest Well,
he's if he if he decided to go to Apple Exclusive,
if he decided to go to Apple and Spotify and
own his rights going forward, they would pay him anything

(01:15:27):
if if if, if Universal wants to keep him because
the record companies, they're in this spot where um the
biggest acts, the biggest artist the weekend post Malone, um
sand your comments of uh Drake being the biggest, they
have the best deals in their favor. So the record

(01:15:49):
companies the biggest artists of the of the deals that
they have the worst arrangement with, right, and those deals
are bad. But they also say we got Drake that right,
and they used that to sign other artists, so that
paying a premium to keep those acts in. And if
those acts start leaving because they're on short term deals,

(01:16:11):
if those acts start leaving, that's when you will seek
the whole thing flip over and somebody's gonna do it.
Did you try to take a clue from Dame Dash?
Is that story true? Yeah? Let me tell exactly what happened. Well, yeah,
I can't be mad ascent because he don't you because
that's not even because because what happened was what's funny

(01:16:33):
is Dame say Clue, I'm gonna give you a deal.
And six months went by and he had no deal,
and then Clue asked me to manage him. And I'm like,
there's nothing to manage. You have no deal. Could you
help me with my deal. No follow up whatever. They
must have been in the middle of the hindsight. They
didn't get this man a contract. So now I'm sitting
there at the top of Columbia Records and Clues like, well,

(01:16:56):
I want to get my record. I'm like, well, then
I'll give you a deal. That actually led to how
Jay and I got close because we were sitting at
the top of Sony. I'm sitting in my office at
nine o'clock at night, I get the menacing phone call
from jay Z and I said, great, let me tell
you my address, and they come up before Yeah, and
they came out to my office. Time time came, I think,

(01:17:19):
and Clue was sitting there and Clues absolutely nervous. Um
and I'm barefoot also TOPI was with time time, Dame, bigs,
Jay this that they came came, Then they came. They
the whole rocket Feller and by yourself and by myself
literally barefoot. Why were you barefoot? Because I saw I

(01:17:39):
work around. Man, I'm West Indian. Nice carpeted off, Yeah,
nice carpeted office. That's just that's what you're supposed to say. Like, man,
the carpet must have been playing, that's why. Uh So, Anyhow,
they came in and um, I had made a joke
something I talked about. Look, I don't care about no
disrespect the clue, but I'm playing this game for a

(01:18:01):
much larger thing, and if we're trying to buy big
houses things, I can't be sitting around it like you
guys didn't give him a deal. In fact, the deal
got closed that night and then I said, Clue, you'll
sign them, and I signed Kicker Prey and that's what
we did. And I was like, but then Jay and
I got close from that, I think they must the
connection was like he just said come to his office.

(01:18:23):
He was really buy himself in his office, and you know, Um,
but the point is failess in that way. I'm terry
fail us in that way, and I'm excited where this
shopter right here is gonna take all of us Because
a lot of times you start to think, man, this
industry is fully matured. We're there already. You know, I

(01:18:44):
used to think Miss pac Man was mainstream. The world
of Warcraft is mainstream, right, Fortnite's mainstream. Miss pac Man
was big. This is something else. We're still at Miss
pac Man level hip hop culture. What we're all doing
is still at Miss pac Man love, but we appreciate
you for joining. I always like being up here, man.

(01:19:05):
I really enjoyed coming up here and having a conversation.
Thank you so much, thank you, really proud of you guys,
Thank you so much. It's Steve Stout. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, yea, the Breakfast Club. Everybody is DJ Envy,
Angela Year, Charlomagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Let's get to rumous talk fabulous, it's about report Angela

(01:19:35):
Yee on the Breakfast Club. Yes, so, according to fab
he was on Rock the Bells Radio and he talked
about actually being cast on the Sopranos and filming and everything,
and then he didn't even end up on the show.
Here's what happened. I would like to tap into some
acting and and do that as well. I think I
was trying it when I was a little younger, but

(01:19:56):
they used to tell me my face out of baby face,
and I was like actually losing some roles because I
wasn't looking old enough to play. I lost a role
on the Sopranos back in the days, and they just
said I just looked like I was seventeen eighteen next
to the today's mob, like you tie your mom, guys,
and I you know, they ended up using somebody else
and I shot the shot it and everything, and they

(01:20:16):
just like you just looked like a baby compared to them.
That sucks that you went through all that work and
then they decide that you just look too young. What
I'm saying, how old had to be like in his
early twenties room, Yeah and yeah, maybe late twenties. How
long goes that? That was like thirteen years ago? There
was fab dominican or right. I think he's half a half? Yeah,

(01:20:41):
I remember. No people were coloring on sopranos like that.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't remember. I don't recovery.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of anybody. Now.
It went black for the last episode, real last episode.
All right, Now, let's talk about Kareem Hunt. He was
driving down the freeway in this video for the of
this that TMZ Sports got, and you know he plays

(01:21:04):
for the Cleveland Browns. He's a running back with the
Cleveland Browns. And he goes past an officer and the
officer stops him, and the cop gets him out of
the car, and here's what happens. I've been through a
lot No, yeah, d yes does man, So you know
about this stuff, right? Uh? Brother? So I hate to

(01:21:26):
say this, but I mean you if anybody should should
know that, like if you're trying to like stay good,
stay go in the right path, had stuff this and
know where to go. Yeah, man, it's not it's not not.
I mean sorry, here's almost doing the right your traffic ticket.
Then I'll just sees this stuff like that. I'm like
one of the hugest Browns fans ever, right, and it's
hard grating and HARKing Browns every single year. Like this

(01:21:48):
the way to do it. Dude, you know what happened
to me? I should be playing for a freaking super Bowl.
And so he was pretty emotional a while he was
talking to this police officer and the cop did let
him off with just a speeding two get and sent
him on his way. He took the weed from him,
But she's that could have went left that office is
gonna be suspended. I'm sure now because you think so,

(01:22:09):
oh yeah, you let somebody go with an open open
containing a liquor and weed and it's taped. But I
wonder how that video footage got out. That's what I said.
They must have released it. Does the police officer have
to arrest you? I believe so you know your father's
a cop, like, they're not obligated to do that. Don't
Can't they use their judgment and not. My dad's been
retired for like fifteen to twenty years because he did

(01:22:31):
give him a ticket. Still, he just didn't give him.
I'm not you know what, I'm not sure was there
anybody else in the call with him. I know he
was maybe don't let somebody else drive. But the open
container liquors serious, I would assume maybe that's just a
ticket in someplace. Maybe I don't know. In some places,
open container might just be a ticket, all right. Jaden
Smith is celebrating Tyler the Creators a Grammy win now.
He posted, my boyfriend just won a Grammy and then

(01:22:54):
Tyler responded, Hahi, you are crazy man, and Jaden responded,
told everyone you can't deny it now. First of all,
I think Jaden Smith is the Mahatma Gandhi of our generation.
But that is how you talk to your holes. You know,
when your holes put you on blasts on social media bla,
that's my boyfriend, like ha ha, are you crazy? Are
you wore you crazy? Girl? Like treating Jaden like one

(01:23:18):
of the holes all right now, a judge has sentenced
Gjelanni Mirage in court and Jelanni Mirages Nicki Minaj's brother.
He was sentenced to twenty five years to life in
prison following the guilty verdict and his child a rape
trial so well earned him right. So they said that
we hope that today's verdict will help the family in

(01:23:39):
the healing process. I'm sure that has to be tough
for the rest of the family to have to deal with,
and for the family of the young girl. And listen
to this, Megan Markel and Prince Harry. According to experts
who actually booked for speaking engagements and book deals, they
could get five hundred thousand dollars or more each to
speak in front of people. So it looks like they're
gonna do okay even after leaving the royal family. How

(01:24:02):
much they get for hosting parties though probably about the
same about ten stacks for they'll definitely getting more than
ten stacks to host a party. Stop it. He should
be out here in super Bowl weekend. I'm in Miami.
We could book them somewhere. Mag It'll get more for
Prince Harry. Let's get them in the office. We bring
them the queens, the Queen's Club. We can about ten stacks.
How old are they they still club age? Yes, so Megan,

(01:24:26):
Megan will definitely get more over Prince Harry. Megan'll get
about you think so fifteen for the walk through? Really? Yeah,
Prince Prince, you can say I got the Prince walking through? Yeah?
Follow she got on Instagram. That's a good question. Let
me let me say we might be jumping out the window.
You might be pricing or two highs. Let me follow
his prince. They said if they went into joint speaking appearances,
they would get about a million dollars each. Man. We

(01:24:46):
talk about hosting parties, man, and then if they do
like a VIP meet and greet, you know how much
of those mate? How much? And if they have merch?
I mean follow what she got on Instagram? She has
four hundred and forty six thousand. I can't give a fifteen.
I give about five stacks. That's it. Megan Marco gets
five stacks for the walk through. She got four hundred
and forty six dollars. But I thought they had a
four period of time. Get they had to get rid

(01:25:07):
of their social media. Are you sure that's her page
not now? To producer say yeah, no, no, no, they
had to do it. It's the Duke and Duchess of Sussex,
so it's the at Sussex Royal. That's what they had
to do. It's eleven point one million, eleven point one
eleven point one million, So in the UK they'll get
they can get top dollar for a walk through. Here
in America five racks if they posted now they posted
with eleven eleven million, five weeken ten. If you got

(01:25:29):
to do it in the UK, I guarantee majority and follows.
In the UK, you write, you write five racks, five
racks for the walk through, the walk through, they'll definitely
come on outside in a bottle for Prince Harry. Damn
Harry to get a bottle bottle of hooka. We don't
know who get a hookah for Harry. Yeah, lying, all right,
well that is your rumor report. I'm an angely year

(01:25:51):
all right, thank you, miss ye. Now when we come back,
we got a couple of birthdays. We got to celebrate right.
Shout out to rock him the god Rock chimis to
the back him all. So Rick Raws, Ricky Rose, it's
his birthday. And shout to Travis Jay Cole's birthday. I
know Travis, somebody excited to hell. You know he had
the cake. He's celebrating all that. So we will get
a mixed on with all of those guys. So let

(01:26:12):
me know your favorite joints from all of them. You
know what. The mix is short, so it's gonna be
real fast and shout to the vote. We see them all.
It's a breakfast club. Ej Envy and Jula Yee, Charlomagne
the guy. We are the breakfast club. We got a
special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, Mayor of Atlantic City,
Marty Smalls. Welcome, Sid, what's up, DJ Envy, Charlomagne and
guy Marty King. Pleasure for me to be here now.

(01:26:34):
Now for those people that don't know, you just became
mayor at the end of two thousand and nineteen. Yes,
the previous mayor was arrested for wire fraud. Because so
let's talk about that. How you became the mayor of
Atlantic City, well by law, um by Act of law.
I was a city council president for the City of
Atlantic City, and by statute, if something was to happen

(01:26:57):
to the mayor, the city council president ascended the position automatically.
So around five o'clock October third, I became the fishing mayor,
were acting mayor of the City of Atlantic City. Then
the next day we held the private swearing in ceremony
and then a public press conference to announce me as
a new mayor. And you know, it's not the traditional

(01:27:19):
way to get the seat, but as I always said
at the same time, it's an incredible opportunity. So then
there was a couple more hurdles. We got support from
the Atlantic City Democratic Committee thirty three to nothing, and
that was the next step. And then it went to
city council, who by unanimous vote selected me, and on
October fifteenth, the acting title was removed and I'm to

(01:27:40):
serve to the special election coming up in June, and
then that will be for the balance of his term,
and then next year is the full four year term.
What did you think of him as a mayor before
that situation? Now, but they say he sold eighty seven
grand or something like that from a youth basketball team. Yeah,
I mean, that's that's that's unfortunate. And I always stay
above the fray and I wanted to let the legal

(01:28:03):
process play out. As I stated oftentimes that was between
him and the FBI and the world. So the final results,
I mean, you know, it's his situation. I'm not going
to kick the man while he's down, but I can
only say that I'm ready to take Atlantic City to
the next level and various levels. And with that, you know,
Atlantic City's a gold minded people. And like I was

(01:28:24):
telling Envy, we're fighting this change of government where retired
North Jersey Senator Ray Lesniett, billionaire casino owner, Resorts Local
fifty four, Bob mcdevin, who's the head of the casino unions,
they are conspiring to overturn the City of Atlantic City's
government because they can't control who's in charge. I've always

(01:28:45):
been one that's been purely for the people, not for
the problem brokers, and I'm always going to do its
best for the City of Atlantic City. So they had
a petition. We believe that the petition was defective. How
they got the signatures. They played on people's motion When
we had a spree of three murders in ten days,
with two females getting killed. They said, if you want

(01:29:06):
to stop Violet, sign this. When the Section natelist came out,
if you want to get on a Section natelist, sign this.
So it looks like we're headed for a battle on
March thirty first to change the form of government, and
we're just telling people to vote no. And if this
can happen in Atlantic City, it can happen in any town.
What did they trying to do with Atlantic City? They
trying to control Atlantic City. So they see what they
want to do with the casinos, the casinos, everything is

(01:29:27):
tied to North Jersey casinos. And we already had an
overwhelming referendum where the voters about eighty six percent rejected
casinos in the North. So you question, why would someone
from Elizabeth, New Jersey be interested in saying we need
a better government for Atlantic City. So if the yes prevails,
all ten elected officials, the nine council people, and myself

(01:29:48):
are immediately gone. And who who would run Atlantic City?
How it was all white people? Yes, it's it's definitely racist.
And people that know me know that I speak my mind.
This couldn't happen in any other town, Like I said,
the state of New Jersey and the money that goes
out of the city of Atlantic City to the tune
of one hundred and fifty four point five million dollars

(01:30:09):
that the residents of Atlantic City don't see. So all
of those amenities and things that you get. So Charlottagne,
you come to Atlantic City tomorrow right, and you stay
to Monday. You stay at pick a casin a hard rock.
You park your car, that's parking tax. You check into
the room, that's hotel tax. You say I'm going to

(01:30:30):
a concert that night, or buy a drink, that's that's
the luxury tax. After the game, after the concert, you say, look,
it's a West Coast basketball game. One, that's sports betting.
When you do that three days in a row, the
city of Atlantic City doesn't get a penny where the
money goes to the State of New Jersey. And they
wonder why because our casino industry in two thousand, fourteen

(01:30:53):
five casinos, clothes and over ten thousand people lost jobs.
And as they say, so goes Atlantic City, so goes
to and so goes to state. When we were the
Golden Goose, when we delivered five point two billion in
casino revenue in two thousand and six. Everybody loved Atlantic City.
Money was flowing, but all of a setment we had
an economic downturn. Nobody's uh, you know, exempt from that.

(01:31:16):
That's that's the country, that's the world. So all that
money that comes into Atlantic City, the residents of Atlantic
City gets none of that. They don't have to build
nothing up the schools zero. We have no additional revenue streams.
And that's why that's crazy. That's why Atlantic City looked
like that outside of the casino area. Well, and you know,
we're trying to change that. And that's why I'm here
to data let everyone know that, um there is a

(01:31:37):
beautiful city. There's some strong, resilient people. We're going to
defeat this change of government and I'm going to carry
out my my mission and vision to make the city
of Atlantic City all that they can be by diversifying
our offerings behind casino gaming. I mean, we have to
do different things. We have to get housing. That's why
you know, you know we bought you season everybody else.

(01:31:57):
We're trying to leverage our relationships so that way we
can rebuild our Raidibole base and becomes self sufficient and
not rely on state funded and anything else. We are
open for entertainment too, It's wide open. We are going
to have an urban festival on the beach called Wave
twenty twenty. I'm claiming it now. We're gonna have DJ
Envy's car show, this ship or else. And and you know,

(01:32:20):
the rumors of Atlantic City demise is greatly exaggerated. And
you know our plan to lead the charge, bring like
minded people to the city of Atlantic City and kind
of change the climbing and the culture as we're doing
in city Hall. And speaking of Shaquille O'Neil, he partnered
with Borai on a two hundred and fifty luxury apartment
unit in Atlantic City and it's eighty five percent sold

(01:32:41):
out and it's not even a year plan. Well, we
appreciate you for joining us, brother absolutely, Marty mayor Marty
Small Senior, I have a presentation. This is the proclamation
of the City of Atlantic City. It says, whereas The
Breakfast Club is a syndicated radio show based in New
York City that currently adds and over ninety radio markets

(01:33:03):
around the country and is also televised on the result
Revolt TV. Network. It says, whereas the Breakfast Club everyday,
millions of listeners and viewers across the country turned into
the Breakfast Club for a thoroughly entertainment experience while gaining
knowledge and insight. And whereas I, Marty Small, Senior, Mayor

(01:33:24):
of the great City of Atlantic City, desired to recognize
the Breakfast Club and probably commend DJ Envy, Angela Yee
and Charlemagne and God for that continued commitment to inform
the public. And now therefore I hereby proclaim Tuesday, January
twenty third as the Breakfast Club Day in the City

(01:33:45):
of Atlantic City, and wish you continue Thursday January and
I have another presentation. This says Key to the City
a year. It says Key to the City of Atlantic City,
presented to DJ Envy and appreciation for your outstanding efforts

(01:34:09):
to market and promote Atlantic City. Mayor Marty Small Senior,
you let's go, congratulations and open up any doing with
this Chick fil A open on Sunday. And lastly, this
is dope so but this one says City of Atlantic City,

(01:34:29):
Key to the City, presented to Flipping NJ year season
and appreciation for his outstanding efforts to promote and market
the city of Atlantic City. Man Marty Small Senior, January
twenty third, twenty twenty, he wants to notice that open
ship on Sunday for Marty. We appreciate you for joining us, Man,

(01:34:53):
I appreciate the opportunity and um, like I said, um,
Atlantic City is all the way back. All right, Well
it's the Breakfas Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ
Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We all the breakfast Club.
I will shout to Mayor Marty Smalls for joining us.
Hright now, you out in Miami, right, Yes, I'll be

(01:35:14):
out here for a few days because I have a
bunch of events happening. But today I am hosting the
Giving Gracefully Awards honoring game changing philanthropic athletes and public figures.
So I will be there at Noble Hotel in Miami
Beach today doing those honors. All right, you get a
positive note, Yes, the positive note is simply this. I
feel like somebody is going to need this word today.

(01:35:36):
In life, it's important to know when to stop arguing
with people and simply let them be wrong.

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