The Breakfast Club BEST OF - The Casey Crew, Jess and Rome Interview

Best of 2025- It’s all about family - The Casey Crew, Jess and Rome Interview. Recorded 2025. 

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The program Your Alarm to Power one five point one
on iHeartRadio in USA.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
AF.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Your girlfriend turned around. That's crazy if your girlfriend hears
that right now, she started looking around. Ain't nobody calling her?
I was mimick in Santa Claus.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, today's show is all about family. Hopefully you enjoying
family today. Some of our favorite family episodes like when
Rome stopped through and you know Rome is just as
baby daddy.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yes, And you know Jess has a book coming out
called Tell Death We Parent. That's right, it'll be out
on my book in print, Black Privilege Publishing, Simon and Schuster,
and it's literally about her time co parenting with Rome.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I mean it's still co parenting now.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
But you know how they got through it because they
had a young Ashton when they were young.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
And also my wife would be stopping through. Gia, of course,
Gia Casey. We have a book called Real Life, Real
Family out right now. We talk about raising our kids.
So it's gonna be best with Look to the Casey Crew.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I thought about the Kzy Crew when we was at
Miss Patty Labell house because I was making the waffles
and I was like they're not ready until they're a
complexion of the Casey crew.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yes, he actually said that out loud like it wasn't
that under his breakfast like he really said, is it
the complexion of the Casey crew?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
When everybody understood exactly what I meant, they was like, yeah,
that's right, that's how they're supposed to look.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
My goodness, Merry Christmas. Let's get into those interviews in
a little bits. It don't go Anywhere's the Breakfast Club
for morning?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's a new day. Is your time to get it
off your chest? Way up, whether you're man or blast,
time to get up and get something. Call up now
eight hundred five eighty five, one oh five to one.
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello,
who's this?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Good morning?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's Hudson, Hutchson, what's up? Get it off your chest? Brother?

Speaker 4 (01:44):
I just want to know when, like at nine to fifty,
when y're wrapping up the show with the administration ever
come down and be like, Yo, that was Jay, But
tomorrow I need you to be a little jagger.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
First of all, I don't know who does imagine, I don't
know who this imaginary administration is y'all think, uh, you know,
has his hand on this show.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
But no, that doesn't happen, sir. We're mid that's all.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Let's be honest, though, who starts the show? Was like
last night when I went to Dix like that.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I'll talk about Dick Boyden good That was ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Okay, that's a little crazy, a little at you know
what I.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Want to know to Hudson, why would they name the
store Dick's? Though? Like this was because there's people named Dick.
Authority Sporting Goods.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Richard came down and we needed a little gear man.
Everything is in gay guys. Now you got me googling.
Why is Dick Sporting good called Dick Boydon Good?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
There? You have to have a good man, A good morning.
Dick Borton Goods is named after its founder, Richard Dick Stack.
That's his name.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
All right, Well, salute to Richard. All right, Hello, who's this?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yoe's top of Brooklyn from Brooklyn?

Speaker 5 (02:51):
What's up the morning, Charlotte King?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yah, y'all ever, I just wanted to tell you it
was it was one hey, y'all was up there joking.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Than every little thing you're thinking, like, y'all know how
you got to do it, and then you you say,
get it.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
On your chest.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I'm like, nah, that's a big four.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I y'all don't make.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Full for everything if they're not for get it off
your touch, to get it off your mind.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
I literally said that, Yo, I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
I said that as soon as I started working there,
telling you everything.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Why you're thinking about men when I think you get
it off your chest, I'm thinking women, what's on your mind?

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Trying out?

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Stop thinking about it now? Because yeah, y'all was doing
all them jokes. I was doing all them poor jokes.
And then right after you're gonna say all right, get
it up your chest, I'm like, hey, yo, full and.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
And who you getting giving that donkey to?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I gotta give it time, no, no, no to everything.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
You said, I'm giving it heavy. I'm saying, hello, who's
this from chapter Hey to me? Cause get it off
he chest?

Speaker 8 (04:00):
Mama, Okay, good morning, did and be charlsmagne. I'm a fan.
I just wanted to get off my chest to the fact
that I did nothing. And now I'm broken up with
the boyfriend that I've been with for three years because
his girlfriend, his side girlfriend, thinks that I'm her stalker.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Wait a minute, his side girlfriend, did you stalker? All right,
explain this to me a little bit more now, So okay, okay.

Speaker 8 (04:29):
So I'm saying with this boy for like almost three years, okay,
and when I came out of my relationship, he came
out of his relationship for a long time, and he
still wanted to explore and all that, and we didn't
know what we was. So he told me like, oh,
I'm talking to this one, I'm talking to that one

(04:50):
and talking that one. So it's like, okay, whatever. But
Tom had passed and he has started moving his stuff
into my apartment, and we started establishing things. I would
for this. I put him on my assurance. We started
establishing an't making plans. I didn't realize how strong of
a connection he was making with other girls. But then

(05:10):
he comes to me one day and tells me that's.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
The other girl.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Okay, okay, I've heard enough. So you're not his only girl.

Speaker 8 (05:17):
No, I'm not his only girl.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
No, okay, so what are you calling her to ask?

Speaker 3 (05:20):
But she's upset because she put him on insurance.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
It was serious.

Speaker 8 (05:24):
I wasn't asking anything.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh you just you're just mad at yourself for being stupid. Hey, yes,
how old are you?

Speaker 8 (05:30):
Thirty four?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Thirty four years old? How many girls does this man got?

Speaker 8 (05:33):
Who knows how many?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
How many East infections have you had? Since balance is
always fall stop it come on?

Speaker 8 (05:42):
No's not?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh okay.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I understand though, because you put him on insurance, he
moved in. You thought it was more serious than it
was and he was still playing the field. Well see see,
I want to tell you that that you know you
can do better.

Speaker 8 (05:55):
That's not the part that I'm mat at. The part
that I'm mad at is that I have nothing to
do with his other relationships, and I'm being accused of
being a random girl. Saul, Why would you know this girl?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Why would you even care? You shouldn't even speak, wouldn't
even care.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (06:12):
You've ever been a cue of something who absolutely did
not do yes and just frustrated. But then he's also
super relief because it's like you never trust in the beginning,
but it's just super fussing.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Understand there, upset, but stop cursing, but understand that the
truth don't need no defense and it only needs witnesses.
So as long as you know the truth. That's the
most important thing. But the truth is you just wanted
this man's holes. Now you need to ask yourself, do
you just want to be one of this man's holes
or do you want to be more to somebody? Because
if you want to be more to somebody, then you
need to go find that somebody because it's not gonna

(06:48):
be with him.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I'm sorry you went through that, mama, but take what
went through it.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
He's still going to it. Now, take him off. She
ain't gonna do nothing.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Who that's talking to you in the background.

Speaker 8 (06:59):
Nobody that's on the radio?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Oh yeah, man, you just another one of his holes. Man.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
And and you know, I think that you deserve better
than that. But you know, he did keep it one
honey with you from the beginning. It's not like he
lied to you.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
He didn't lie.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
And y'all didn't have a conversation. You just assume because
he moved in. But that was not a great assumption, obviously.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
And I know it's hard. I know it's hard.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Three four years of raw sex. Three you know what
I'm saying. Him blowing in your bookie, I know it.
I know it got you a little open man, But
you know you deserve better.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm sorry, mama, have a good day.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Damn man, she'ould take him off insurance right now, you know,
get it off your chest.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
If you need the VIC, call us up right now.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, it's away. Is your
time to get it off your chest. Way up. Whether
you're man or black, time to get up and get something.
Call up now. Eight hundred five eight five one o
five one. We want to hear from you on the
Breakfast Club. Hello. Who's this y'o? What's up?

Speaker 9 (07:56):
Trap?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Hey boo?

Speaker 5 (07:59):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
What's up? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Pieces? What's the word?

Speaker 5 (08:02):
He ain't ain't nothing, ain't nothing, chilling, chilling. I was
gonna shout out through things number one, shout out to
the dollars cowboys. Make sure y'all tune in. Watch us
get that work for then, you know what I mean
talk to I.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Don't like how you said that. You said, watch us
get that work and me and then we're gonna lose bro.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Oh no, no, no, no no man, watch us put in
that work.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, but you ain't say that. You said watch us
get that work. You bottomed this out Bro, you turn
this into a bottom and stead of the top.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Bro, don't do that.

Speaker 10 (08:29):
You're right, You're right.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Number two, I gotta talk about my man Cole. Y'all
have somebody come on Marco plus I think his name
man shout out to him. I mean a dreams villain
like myself. But Charlomagne.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
I want.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
I want to tell you that you know nobody you
name it's touching J Cole, all care if it's Big Kurt.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
All cameras, Mike, I don't have nothing to do with
your ridiculous hip hop takes. Okay, you cannot hold on,
hold on, Broke. Cole is not the king of the
South in no way shape before.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yes, he rapped better than anybody you can name.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's not flows his delivery day one person, Jay colt
On rap better than Scarface. J colt On in T I.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Lit, Wayne, Yes you do.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
When I come to lyrics, lyricism, scarface and t I bro.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Yes said first of all, like none of them see J.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Coble.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
When it comes to Kat's delivery, flows, lyrics, no matter
what it is, touch there.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
All of that. I'm not even arguing. I'm not arguing.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
I'm not having we could we can fight right.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
You wasn't even outside.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
You wasn't even outside when Jake, when when t I
and Wayne and Scarface was killing things.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Said we could fight right. Hello, who's this jo?

Speaker 10 (09:43):
It's Comachi? What's good man?

Speaker 4 (09:45):
What's something?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Shrimp? What's what's something like? He was going on.

Speaker 10 (09:47):
Killing my brother. Man, just want to get off my
chest about the fashion. Dang gun know how I do bro?
This fla Manxi Man I made that hoodie for Angela
ye a long time ago, and Charlo Mane.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Was, hey, you know me, but I love you brother.

Speaker 11 (09:57):
Man.

Speaker 10 (09:57):
I ain't got no height for you.

Speaker 12 (09:58):
Man.

Speaker 10 (09:59):
I'm still out here to as so man seven years strong, Bro,
seven years strong.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
And I was hating about it. I'd be forgetting.

Speaker 10 (10:04):
But back in the day, man I called up there
talking about fast.

Speaker 8 (10:06):
She was not that you like.

Speaker 13 (10:07):
Man.

Speaker 10 (10:07):
You ain't you ain't nothing, man. You was hating back
in the day. But now you're did for the man.
So it's cool man, and also.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
One of you off my chaise.

Speaker 10 (10:13):
I ain't got no hatred for you, man, I swear
to guard Man.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I used to hate you, but now I don't.

Speaker 10 (10:17):
Man, it's cool.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Man.

Speaker 10 (10:18):
I spot the I'm gonna hate for you, bro, even
he goes, I could have made it. I could have
made it, man, if you would have just been on my.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Side when I was on the lad I don't start
that now. Got nothing to me.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
It was probably trash, but like it like people get
mad when you say something is trash.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Remember saying I don't, I've never seen his clothes and
say it was trash.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
No, he said you seen it. He said she was
wearing it. You said it was trash. Sounds like damn
told told it was trash, she.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Was wearing it. Does that sound like it? Absolutely? Damn
all right? I got that trash? Sound like I'm damn
like to your chest? Is the Breakfast Club?

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Good morning, Good morning everybodyj Env Jesse, Hilarius, Charlamagne, the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special legends
and the man. Come on now, this is special one
right here, legends of the building. Come on, it's the
cast of good Times, fifty years of good time.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
We got Micha Wholm and JJ Well Carter and Bernadette
Standings and Jimmy Walker.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's right right, Good morning, guys.

Speaker 11 (11:24):
How y'all feeling Good morning, Breakfast Club fifty years a
good time?

Speaker 7 (11:27):
Wow, I know, wow.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
And we're still going strong. Did y'all know Good Times
were going to make the market? It made well.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
I didn't have no idea, No.

Speaker 11 (11:38):
We didn't, but we're very grateful it did.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well from the beginning, let's start, how did it come about?
How did Good Times come about? How did you guys audition?
And how did it make because during that time, there
wasn't too many of us on television, So how did
it come about?

Speaker 6 (11:52):
Well, and he is black, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
They joked me all the time and I'm black.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
But well, it started with me being in a beauty pageant,
you know. And from there, Uh, there was a manager
watching me in the beauty pageant and gave my mother
a card to say, they're looking for a teenager to
be in this show. And meet Norman Lear at CBS,

(12:24):
you know. So we went up there. But there were
thousands of girls when I opened the door. So, I mean,
but that's how it started with me.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
You were a teenager a good huh? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (12:33):
Oh you eighteen?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh okay, Lord have mercy. Okay, yeah, all right, okay,
he's still beautiful, thank you. Absolutely so.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
And then, you know, after a couple of months, I
thought I didn't get it, you know, because I didn't
hear back from them. And then I did get the call.
My mom got the call that I was Thelma, and
so they flew me out to California. That's how it
happened for me.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Wow, what about you, miss card.

Speaker 11 (12:58):
By the time I began to work with Norman Lear,
I had been in my sixth Broadway play by that
time during my journey with Miss Jane Murray and also
Pat Kirkland. These were two wonderful women who I auditioned
for when I went there. However, I literally had the
job before I got the job. My contract was brought
from The Raising in the Sun by Lorraine Hansbury. We

(13:19):
did the debt version of the musical play. By that time,
I had won the Tony Award nomination that year in
seventy four. However, as a result of that, Norman would
consistently he came more than twice to see my work
and flew my mother and I out to the state
of California. You know, I was reluctant because they always

(13:39):
said it never rains in California, and I was excited.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
It made for three months when I got to.

Speaker 11 (13:47):
Right then, and there are any illusions about Hollywood were
always neutralized as far as our concerned. So I'm very
grateful to have not only worked with and still loved
Jimmy Walker and Bernardette. But we give to the spirit
of miss Esther Rowe du Bois, and to Johnny Brown
who played Bookman, to Helen Martin who played Weeping Wonder.

(14:09):
These are wonderful people that helped us along the way.
Of course, to mister Ben Powers as well Albert Reed
who played the older These are the people who accentuated
what we did. Of course, we were working with the
wonderful Debbie Allen and the work that she contributed to
our production.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
So we think you what about you, mister Walker. I'm
just a hard core stand up. That's it.

Speaker 14 (14:31):
That's all I do. I'm just a stand up to
the core. So I went to a comedy store, I'm
doing shows. I go back to bed at like three
o'clock in the morning, get a call JD.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Joe.

Speaker 14 (14:41):
She says, where are you? I said, We're my bed sleeping.
She says, well, you belong across the street. We're doing rehearsals.
I said, rehearsal for what she says. There's a show
called good Times. You signed on to the show? I
had signed on to it at the inprov Yeah, because
I didn't believe Hi because.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
He's a liar. So it was a verbal contract.

Speaker 14 (15:02):
No, they had a contract. Kenny, the drunk, who was
a lawyer, was at the bar. I said, Kenny, is
this any good? He said, yeah, I think so sign it.
I'll send it back for you. And I thought, I said,
Kenny's a drunk. He's not going to send He's a lie,
he's not going to send this. So then he sent
it back. So I was on the show. So I
go to the rehearsal and there's a whole bunch of

(15:24):
people there at the rehearsal because I didn't even know
we had a script, because they said this is script downstairs.
I said, I'm going back to bed because I'm not
going downstairs to get a script because they're lying.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
I don't have time, but you did. So I went.

Speaker 14 (15:35):
I got the script and I'm reading the script and
I said that guy next to me like you normally.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I said, man, this sucks. What is this? I said?
He said, we're going to do a TV show.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
I said, really, I said, you're a liar.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's not gonna happen. This is terrible.

Speaker 14 (15:51):
From then on, we did the show, and I was
always throwing stuff in and people got upset.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
So when did you stop thinking people?

Speaker 14 (15:56):
Was like, never, I think it now people, I mean,
agent's a lie. They're all liars, No, very few people.
People want to be bigger than what they are. And
the big people you never meet them.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
They're in the.

Speaker 14 (16:10):
Big glass tower upstairs on the ninetieth floor. So you know,
even if like Bernian Ellity, even if meet the girl
said give me your number, I know she's lying because
she's not going to give you the number. And then
with the horrible things with the cell phones, they don't answer.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
You text them, you email them.

Speaker 14 (16:30):
They just they sit in their room and they sit
with their girlfriends guy and they start laughing.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
They go this moron I met at Walmart. He asked
for my number. I was busy.

Speaker 14 (16:41):
I gave him my number because I know I'm never
gonna talk to him. I answer as emails ever again,
once in a while somebody will come through, but very
very rarely, and the girl, the girl will be nice
and some girls will go.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Some girls will go.

Speaker 14 (17:06):
And I learned this from a friend of mine who
happens to be a girl. And she said a very
interesting thing. She said, you know, if you want to
get rid of a guy, and he asked you to
go out, said, you know, like if she's a girl,
I asked you to go out.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I say, hey, Jess, you know, why don't we you know,
go to uh, go to the Four Jesus and have dinner.
That's what they do. Are you serious? Really?

Speaker 10 (17:34):
Come on?

Speaker 14 (17:36):
No, it wasn't lucky yet, but it was a girl
that showed promise, she answered, she answered, And I was like, really,
and sometimes sometimes you're so stupid.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
One did call back. I was. I was stunned. How
many times do you give your number out to these women?

Speaker 14 (17:54):
I'm available anybody, but see they they and I said
the girls, hey, let's go in the Truths together and
they just go.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
No, they just start laughing.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
How do how do y'all feel about the Good Times
cartoon on Netflix?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, that's Berniette's thing. She'll tell you it a reboo.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
But that's not a no, that's not that's not it
at all. No, that's not it.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
At all.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
I think that our audience missed something, you know, they
missed what happened to us. It's always they want the
completion of it, and it never really happened so far.
My thing about the animation was this that you know,
I know that Jimmy Walker came to them and he
presented a cartoon about five years before this, before this one,

(18:57):
and it was it was the really the all of us,
the way we are in an animation and we have
our same voices and everything like that. They didn't bite that,
but later on came up with they're gonna do an animation,
and I remember my manager called them and said, well,
what are they gonna Are we gonna be in it
or not. So the way they describe the animation to

(19:19):
us was this, it was going to be a modern day,
you know, progression of what everything is going to be
for the Good Times family.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
You know.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
Fine, But they asked Jimmy and I to do a
tiny little part.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
But it sounded.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
Okay, you know, we didn't see the scripts. So Jimmy
did a part. I did a little part. My character's
name is Peaches. You know, she's like a project lady.
That's whatever. But when Nick trailer came out. We saw
it and everybody was like, no, you know, you don't
have a crack baby in somebody in the mother's arms.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
You don't do that.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
So and I remember having an interview with the singer Gilstrap,
Jim Gilstrap, and he was saying, you know, there are
some lyrics that they took out. So I said, we're
the lyrics and he's said, well, you know they say
roaches roaming the hallway and the landlord lives on the
other side of town or something like that. He said
that they took it out because fifty years ago now

(20:12):
they thought that that would be offensive to black people. Okay,
but fifty years later, you have two roaches singing in
the shower whatever they sing in the song good time.
So I'm like, this is not it.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I haven't watched it, mister Carter.

Speaker 11 (20:26):
I actually was quite disappointed with the actors who took
the time to sign on to that project. These are
actors and artists and comedian that I really had a
high regard for. I won't use the past tense with
them right now, but I'm disappointed at the fact that
they did that. When I did take a quick review
of this particular rubbish that I saw. I was contacted

(20:48):
by some media outlets from my point of view, but
I refused to dignify with a response. And I'm just
pretty much disappointed with the artists who signed on to it.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Y'all don't like the Good Times reboot.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
To say that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Fifty years a good Times.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I'm talking like nobody did a documentary or some type
of you know, reunion show like y'all didn't get approached aout.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
None of that.

Speaker 11 (21:11):
Now, the anthology that I did, right, it wouldn't be
a product commercially right now again because of.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
The losses that we had. They but we didn't have
people that we worked.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
That we're going to put together, and we had all
the characters.

Speaker 11 (21:24):
It's just this is there now ancestors.

Speaker 14 (21:27):
So this is Brett Miller, who works with Norman, and
that's the guy who kind of kind of gebashed us,
and that that was it.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I mean, that's the way because when I took it around.

Speaker 14 (21:39):
Everybody I talked to says, well, do you own the rights?
We go no, and they said, well, nothing we could
do for you. And these are all friends of mine.
So that's the way it was. I just think that
they didn't want us involved and they achieved their goal.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, well, we love y'all.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
Yes, our fans really writing us and telling us how
much they loved us, and we did. They did not
like the animation, you know, they respect us in so
many different ways, so we still got our satisfaction out
of it, you.

Speaker 11 (22:09):
Know, absolutely, and when the people don't like it, watch out.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Well, we appreciate you guys for joining us.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Fifteen the lyrics to the theme song. Y'all all know that.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
No, I don't know. I think Ralph knows it.

Speaker 11 (22:23):
Keeping your head above water, making a way when you can,
temporary layoffs, good times, easy credited, rift fall, good time,
scratching in surviving good good times, hanging in a child line.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's how I interpret I have the living.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
Yes, it is hanging and versions, hanging in and making
it and driving.

Speaker 11 (22:46):
But also I have on document in my archive hanging
in the child and something.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
So they have they said it that way, so long.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Versions of it.

Speaker 11 (22:55):
However, it really caught on the way that the wonderful
jar wrote the soundtrack for Moving On Up for the Jeffersons. Wise,
there is the writer and the musician and the vocalist
that sings that song, so that in itself when you
deal with themed songs, and when we were coming on,
y'all were gracious enough to play for us. So it

(23:18):
was a nice way to walk into your sound studio,
and we thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
So the mystery continues. We still don't know if it's
hanging in the child.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
It's hanging in and giving.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
That's what it is, and.

Speaker 11 (23:32):
That's not going to have this going on for a while.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
Jim Jim Gillsdraft, the one who sung it, told me
he said it was hanging in and giving.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
That's what it was.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
But it came off I don't know if it was
the enunciation of it or not, but it came off
as hanging in a child line. It sounds that way,
but it really was hanging in a giant.

Speaker 11 (23:53):
And there's a second verse that people have never heard
that goes to the same song. So the information that
I do have had, I'm saying, so you guys have
been wonderful. I thank you for thinking enough of us
get into your listening audience. We thank you again for

(24:14):
wonderful fifty years. May you be blessed by every breath
you breath and every beat of your heart.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Thank you very much. That's right, it's the breakfast club.
Good morning, thank you all right? Dangerous wanting to go
to breakfast club? Charlamagne to God. Lauren lo Ross is here?
Just hilarious? Is here?

Speaker 8 (24:30):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Who's feeling in for? Envy? Laura l Rose is feeling
in for? Isn't feeling in? He's ill? I'm here she's
feeling in Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, he's a guest today though, because his new book
Real Life, Real Family with the Queen of the House
Get a Katy is out right now.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
How do you feeling?

Speaker 9 (24:45):
You come by being given the opportunity to write a
book about something that is the most important thing for me,
the thing I'm the most passionate about, the thing that
brings me the most joy, family, parenting, my household, our home.

Speaker 15 (25:02):
So yeah, I'm very humbled.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
This is the second book. Yes, it's amazing, you know what.
Let's just rewind a bit for those who don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Who is the K. C.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Crewe?

Speaker 6 (25:12):
Where did that name come from? How did y'all get started?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Do you remember the carew? Yes? Our last name? What
do you mean?

Speaker 16 (25:18):
No?

Speaker 15 (25:19):
No, no, But do you remember how we came up
with a name?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Come up? With the name.

Speaker 12 (25:21):
We were doing our first podcast, and it was before
we were doing like the audio version of the video version.
It was just the audio version, and we started the
podcast without a name, and we sat there and we
kind of was coming up with like different names, and one.

Speaker 15 (25:37):
Of us said, well, how about the k CY crew.
You know, our last name is Casey. We have a
whole crew of kids, a whole gaggle. What about the
k C crew.

Speaker 12 (25:43):
And then people you know, DMed us and emailed and whatnot,
and they said, yeah, we love that name.

Speaker 15 (25:48):
We love that name. So we decided to call ourselves
the KC Crew.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Amazing that's where it came about.

Speaker 17 (25:54):
And whenever you post on social you always hashtag the
KSEY Crew.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
Yes, and he does as well.

Speaker 15 (25:59):
But wanted it.

Speaker 17 (26:00):
Things that you guys do really good from the podcast
to bringing it online, is you pay attention to the
comments and the responses Ki. Yeah, and you guys bring
them into the podcast, but you also like reflect on
them on social media. So I want to read one
of the posts that we pulled and I thought that
this was great. You inspired me. This is someone commenting
to you guys. You inspired me. I wish all parents

(26:21):
had this level of intention, planning, and vibe. Truth is,
most parents, moms are stressed, over worked by trying to
make ends meet, in harboring trauma. Therefore, it's passed down
to the children. You've passed down light and love because
of that and because of what you are, high five
to all of the parents doing their best, and you
use that as a moment to talk about like, no,
it gets a little crazy over here, but oh yeah,

(26:43):
but it's important because when you if you've ever been
around your family, it is a lot of love and
a lot of light. But I'm sure on the inside
things get crazy.

Speaker 12 (26:49):
Well, you know, that's a big misconception. People assume that
because you live a certain lifestyle or because you've earned
a certain financial status, that you don't have the same
problems that they have. You know. So that comment really
really stood out to me because she spoke on the
troubles and the trauma, the word trauma that she used,

(27:11):
and Rashan will speak on the word trauma sometimes he
feels as though it's a word that's overused, but it's
a word that represents something that so many people endure.
The difference now is that we have words to identify
how we feel and what we go through, and it's articulated.
Because when our feelings and our experiences are articulated, then

(27:33):
you're able to communicate. People are able to understand you,
You're able to understand other people. You're able to have
empathy and compassion for other people because now we're all
speaking a universal language. Like the word triggered, like the
word trauma, like the word of gaslin. You know, these
are things that some may think are overused now, but yes,

(27:54):
but there is value there. There is value there because
now we can see each other, we under stand each other.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
When you're trying to create a safe space, you know,
how is it to venture into an unsafe space like
the comment, especially when somebody on the air every day.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
You know, I mean if you have an opinion about.

Speaker 15 (28:10):
It every day.

Speaker 12 (28:11):
So I read every single comment.

Speaker 15 (28:17):
I interact.

Speaker 12 (28:19):
It started when I had a lower follower account. It
started because I always felt that if someone follows me,
that's an investment. In a small investment, maybe, but it's
an investment that they put into me. And they're looking
at my content content, they're looking at my pictures, and

(28:39):
you left a comment, I want to respond back to you.

Speaker 15 (28:41):
I used to respond to almost every.

Speaker 12 (28:43):
Comment, you know, but then when my followers went up,
I wasn't really able to do that, and that was
something that you know, I had to take that on
the chin.

Speaker 15 (28:51):
I wasn't able to. But it's a sign of respect, and.

Speaker 12 (28:55):
You said, why do I do that to myself? Because
I'm strong enough to do that. I'm strong enough to
do that. The comments don't if they are negative, and
I have to say I don't receive a lot of
negative comments, thankfully, thank God. But if they are negative,
I look at it as insight. I might ask myself, why.

Speaker 15 (29:12):
Might someone have that perspective?

Speaker 12 (29:14):
To me? It feeds my mental because I'm a thinker.
I'm a deep thinker. I'm all over things. I love
to understand people. So for me, the comments are food
and they also bring me happiness when they're good. It
lets you know that you're reaching someone, you're whatever it
is that you're putting out because it's in the sense
of sharing. There's a lot of things that I don't share,
so if I choose to share and it's well received,

(29:37):
then that's a good feeling. I think that's why a lot.

Speaker 15 (29:39):
Of people are on or part of the reason why
a lot of people are on social media, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 12 (29:43):
And I'm strong enough to do so. And that's because
of the way that I was raised. I was raised
to be a very strong and resilient woman.

Speaker 15 (29:54):
It comes directly from my parents.

Speaker 12 (29:56):
I'm fortunate in the sense that I can look back
and identif to find things about the way that I
was raised that created the individual, the woman, the mother,
the wife that I am. And it's for me. It's
a very beautiful thing. Both of my parents are no
longer here, so to be able to say, wow, when
my mother did this every single day, or when she

(30:19):
took me here once a week, or when she said
this to me, and those compliments, and that the way
that she fed me and she fed my soul, and
the joy that I experienced, and the amount of fun
that I had as a kid, like I loved my life.

Speaker 15 (30:32):
And it's not because we were wealthy. We were not.

Speaker 12 (30:34):
We were a middle class family. I'm from Brooklyn, from
East Flatbush. We weren't raised, you know, like I'm from
an urban area. And it's not had nothing to do
with money. It had nothing to do with wealth. It
had everything to do with what my parents poured into
my home and the love that I felt. And that

(30:54):
is what we put into writing this book. There's a
lot of books that we could have written, you know,
so many ideas came. Oh because Real Life or Love
was a huge success. It was a national bestseller. So
it's like, I go, you write a book about this. We said,
we want to write a book about family. It's what
we know best. It's what we know best. We've had
so many ups, so many downs, so.

Speaker 15 (31:14):
Many wins, so many losses, so many things that we
thought we were doing right that we weren't.

Speaker 12 (31:19):
That we had to regroup and make sure that we
were balanced, you know, as as a married couple. Because
when we didn't agree, it's like my way is better,
know what my way is better? And this, you know,
we had to come to a meeting of the minds.
Yeah you know what I mean. So a relationship, you know,
the relationship grew, you know, because we had to learn
how to see eye to eye as parents. So there

(31:41):
was just there was many many ups and downs, and
we wanted to pour that all into a book. You know.
We wanted to let everyone know like it's really that
village mentality. It's really that like we are a community,
especially our black community, because I'm black. Yes, yeah, yeah,
for the record, for the record, Spanish.

Speaker 10 (32:09):
Joy.

Speaker 12 (32:11):
But I know that you're well aware because you speak
to things of this nature often. But our history is
being erased in schools and it's being stripped away silently
in society. So the foundation starts in our homes. We
have to teach children how to identify themselves. We have

(32:35):
to teach children that sense of belonging, and they have
to understand that they come from something meaningful. And if
you leave it up to society to teach them that,
you're going to wind up with children that are lost,
that are overlooked, that don't know how to identify themselves,
that get taken advantage of, and that are susceptible to

(32:57):
what society wants for them. So for us, our core,
our nucleus, our foundation, our home supersedes anything else in
this world.

Speaker 15 (33:07):
We put our family first.

Speaker 7 (33:09):
Would you say that you and and we have two
different parenting styles, absolutely the more lenient parent.

Speaker 15 (33:16):
Who was the more lenient parent?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
It depends what it is like.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
You know, everybody knows my dad is retired police officer
and ex military, So I'm disciplined. I was the yell
of the screamer, because I said, so, it is a
lot different, like seven hours, Like she wants to know
why did you feel like she likes to break down.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
You don't get it, You're gonna get it by the
end of the right.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Exactly. So you got to think, really think before you
speak to U.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Because she's like, all right, explain that, like I just
said it just because no, no, no, explain this. But so
I'm more like, because I said so, she's more like, well,
you can't go to the more because of this, because
this could happen. Explain your parentsingtole Mine is my dad
was like no, and you didn't ask why it was
what it was you just figured out later.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Is a little different. I prefer the explanation.

Speaker 15 (34:06):
Yeah. So that's how my parents were with me.

Speaker 12 (34:08):
I knew that my parents were invested in me living
a happy, fulfilled and fun life, and we didn't go
lightly on the fun. And because I knew that, and
my parents never said no just for the sake of
saying no. Because parents are overworked and they are stressed,
and the last thing they want to hear when they

(34:29):
walk through the door is mommy, can.

Speaker 15 (34:31):
I can you take me here? Can you buy me this?
Can we watch this together? Can we go like flow down?

Speaker 5 (34:37):
No?

Speaker 15 (34:37):
And sometimes you say no.

Speaker 12 (34:38):
You don't even know why you're saying no. That's not
a good parenting technique. Yeah, you really have to take
a moment.

Speaker 15 (34:45):
You have to take a beat. You all have to
take a beat.

Speaker 12 (34:47):
To listen to our children and be patient. And because
I knew that my parents were invested in me that way,
I knew that when they said no, there was a
good reason.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
How do you make sure you not you're raising the
kids out of love and fear?

Speaker 12 (35:00):
Though that's such a good question, it comes with the explanations,
do you know what I mean? I don't tell them
you can't do this and you can't do that? Why
because I said so? Let me explain to you why.
You know, sometimes we'll watch the news together, you know,
when they're at an appropriate age at about nine years old.
You know, I think that they're mature enough to ingest
certain things. So what I do is I would record

(35:23):
it on my DVR and then cherry pick different stories
that I think that are appropriate, that speak to the
protective measures that we take on them, you know what
I mean. So it's like, if I see a child
abduction that's not too traumatic, I might save that and
then show it to a child that's old enough.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
You know.

Speaker 15 (35:41):
I did it with.

Speaker 12 (35:41):
Madison, I did it with Logan, and I find that
they take that into their adult lives and they're very,
very like. Madison walks around like a police officer. She
has a boyfriend. His name is Andrew, and when they
go into a restaurant, she's the one that sits facing
the door.

Speaker 15 (35:57):
She feels like the protective in that.

Speaker 12 (36:00):
Relationship because her head is always on smoke, you know
what I mean. She could tell you a car that
was driving six cars ahead, you know, and she's always
paying attention to license plates. When she was young, I
used to go through like in case you get kidnapped
scenarios because it's the type of information that can save

(36:21):
a life.

Speaker 15 (36:22):
Girls are being taken.

Speaker 12 (36:25):
So if you have a young girl, it is very
proactive to educate them about the realities and the tricks
and the cons that people. You know, because even me
as proactive as I try to be, that whole technique,
with a baby crying outside your house, I would I
would be inclined to open the door if I hear
a baby crying and someone that sounds like a mother

(36:47):
yelling and screaming outside the house.

Speaker 15 (36:48):
I am that type of person, but not me.

Speaker 12 (36:51):
But now I am I am because I would my
heart with my eyes, I would be inclined to open
that door. But now with all the knowledge and some
of the good things about social media is that so
much knowledge is being spread, so now we're consuming good
information as well. So I heard that, I'm like, wow,

(37:14):
that's absolutely right. It jogs your.

Speaker 15 (37:16):
Thinking, it makes you say, oh, wait a minute.

Speaker 12 (37:19):
I do have to put myself first, even if someone else,
a stranger, seems to be in need. I have to
prioritize myself, my home, my family. So you know, it's
important to spread information and to teach your kids, even
though it may be a little scary, but you do
have to do it in a way where it doesn't
incite fear.

Speaker 15 (37:36):
How y'all pick and choose?

Speaker 17 (37:37):
What do y'all like? What y'all decide to be transparent about,
Like it's just so much, and your kids are getting
older and they're like, you know, like they're wanting to
walk by themselves with their friends.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
If it was up to me, I'm transparent with everything right,
Geea has to hold back a lot, like for instance,
like with Logan. Right, Logan, when he was in high school,
you used to get picked on all the time.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
But he used to get picked on. Guess for what reason? No,
because because Charlamagne. Yes, yes, so.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
When you gave me the ask, that's why he gave
me the buck cake, when he gave me the not
much better you know what I mean, not about to

(38:24):
He used to be getting made fun of it because
of that. So but the reason I'm so transparent is
there's so many families and people dealing with the same
things but never want to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Scared to.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
So that's why I talked about the orgasm thing in
the first book. That's why in this in the second book,
we talk about, you know, the time from the first.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Every view, every you want to do some.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Even like in this book we talk about the time
that that Logan found a bloody condom at one of
his friend's house.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
So he can't, but he's comfortable. Why are you looking
at that? It wasn't mine.

Speaker 12 (39:05):
He's like, oh, he found bloody house a right friend friends,
and and he was like maybe nine years old, nine years.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Old, he was about nine years old, but he was
comfortable enough. He was in.

Speaker 12 (39:21):
The basement, and and the little boy had an older brother.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
Yeah, when.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
My gosh, so she had That's what we had the
sex talk and had to have the sex talk with
Logan and Madison.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
What kind of sex talk though it wasn't a backdoor
sex talk that we ain't just birds and bees and
wasp and.

Speaker 15 (39:48):
They got a full blown sex talk. They had to
understand because if you leave it back door.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Sex to him, That's what I'm really trying to figure out.
Why was the condon bloody? I'm really kind when.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
Yeah, somebody be like a first time thing.

Speaker 12 (40:12):
Yeah yeah, but no they at that point I found
that they were old enough and mature enough, and you're
they're encountering things now, these conversations are being had amongst
their peers, and I knew that if I didn't set
them straight, that they were going to be absorbing all
of this wrong information and wrong ideas. So I told

(40:32):
them sex feels good, It's a pleasureful experience. God made
us that way because God wants us to reproduce, He
wants us to create offspring. So he made it something
that we would enjoy, but it's meant for someone that
you love and that's the reason why. So they're like, oh, okay,
so what is it like and what did you say? Okay,

(40:56):
if I'm being honest, I told them that there is
a penis and there is a vagina. And my son,
Logan was like, so like this. I was like, yeah,
something like that. I said, you know, some people look
at it as a negative thing.

Speaker 15 (41:15):
No, no, No, he really didn't know.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
He really didn't.

Speaker 15 (41:18):
He really didn't.

Speaker 12 (41:19):
Even like my eleven year old son right now, he
does not know. So when they asked me questions that
I don't want them to know about.

Speaker 15 (41:27):
And he's older than Logan was.

Speaker 12 (41:29):
But now with I have a better grip on his
friends and a grip on what he's exposed to on
his phone and whatnot in parameters boundaries, so I'm really
abreast of what he knows and what he doesn't in
our lines of communication.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Are way better. Yeah, you have.

Speaker 7 (41:45):
Six kids, So is there anything that you felt like
in the beginning got itt know and until y'all got
to that six kid, of course, Yeah, Like, what were
some of the I'll give you a next timeple?

Speaker 6 (41:56):
You didn't know? You just was like, man, Rashan winging
this like.

Speaker 12 (42:00):
I'll give you an example. So one of the fails,
and this was something that we disagreed on. So it
was the explaining everything to the kids. I have the
patience to do it. And he really is a because
I said so type of guy. And it worked beautifully
with Madison, but with Logan from a young age, I
would explain everything to him and he's a mama's.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Boy times thirty, you know what I.

Speaker 15 (42:24):
Mean, Like we're very, very close.

Speaker 12 (42:26):
But it kind of went wrong with him because what
we found was that we created an environment where he
felt that he was entitled to an explanation and he
felt as though because we gave him too safe of
a space that he could challenge me and he can
challenge a decision that I made. So we had to

(42:50):
dial that back to the boundaries and then we had
to teach boundaries and let him know his place. So
that was a fail in a sense. And Rashamoud always
look at me like see I told you, Like see
I told you.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Because he's the bad guy.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Because now I got to go discipline that. So now
me and Logan get into it.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Now you can't beat Logan because Logan.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
So now I got a discipline Logan, and then me
and Logan get into it. But one thing about Logan
and all of our kids, which is the craziest thing, is.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
They're very forgiven.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Like with Logan, I have to get sometimes so disrespectful
for him to understand.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
And the next day he's like, hey Dad, what's up.
And I'm like, hey Dad, what's up.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
But that's how he is, and he just has conversations.
But we have those conversations and we understand and we talk.
But he's he's the one that just like his mom.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Did you have a family mission statement?

Speaker 6 (43:36):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
What is the mission statement? And tell people the importance
of that.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Well, just so we know, we don't have it on
our wall and then make the kids read it when
they walk in the house. It's not like that. So
our mission statement is just something that we, you know,
as a family, we all live by, right, And I'll
read some of them. And the reason is is we
are a close unit. Right, So if you see us together,
we're all always out together. You see me the other
day with Jackson, You've seen me before, Charlan mane Sei before.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
So the misterstatement is we are a unit.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Right, we all ride together like we are really a unit,
a unit. I'm an only child, so I'm heavy into
taking care of each other. We respect each other, of course,
simple like we make sure that you know, we respect
each other's feeling.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
We always have each other's backs.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
That's one thing that we always do, and it's you know,
sometimes when we have conversations up here, I always talk
about my kids. So when they see stuff on social media,
at times I have to stop them because they will
go in, especially Logan Logan, Oh, yeah. We always love
uplift each other and pointing out the good in one another.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Right.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
We see that more especially with our girls in dance
because they compete against each other a lot, so when
they do, we have to make sure that regardless of
what happens. Like a couple of weeks ago, London lost
and we thought London got jerked. So I told, you know,
I had a conversation with Brooklyn, and Brooklyn was like, Dad, don't.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Worry, I'm gonna get first and the second four. And
she went out there and busted at the first and second.

Speaker 15 (44:49):
She got first place, and.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
You know, gave the first place to her sister because
that's what it was. We represent each other at all times.
That's how it always is. So we always tell our
kids if we're not there, you make sure that those
parents come back and say, oh my gosh, he was
such a pleasure. He was polite, he was this even
with Jackson at the game. You know, Jackson said thank
you a million one time, so you said hello million
one times you because that's what he's taught to do

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it you show respect with that.

Speaker 12 (45:14):
My goal for my kids is that when they leave
our house, I want everyone that they come in contact
with to know that they're well loved. What we teach
you inside this house you exemplify outside of this house.
And these are things that a lot of parents don't
put into perspective when raising children.

Speaker 15 (45:32):
Because what do we usually do.

Speaker 12 (45:33):
We take, like, you know, an idea, and we throw
it up against the wall and we see if it
sticks or not.

Speaker 15 (45:37):
You know what I mean, Oh that worked, Oh that didn't.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (45:40):
But a lot of people don't have something tangible that
they can go back to and be like, this is
a way to create a foundation, This is a way
to create a structure. And because we had so many
ups and downs, we were able to do that and
put it in one place.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
And I think the biggest story now you hate want
to tell a story, was Jackson?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
So we had a parent teae night a couple of
weeks ago and a teacher came up to me. Teacher,
I had no idea you know who he was step night.
So he walks up to me. He was like, are
you Jackson's dad? And I'm like, yeah, what.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
A teacher usually asked? That's us? This bs right?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
So I'm like, oh, here we go. What did Jackson do?
And he was like, I just want to tell you. You know,
Jackson did something that no child or adult has done
in my life. The other day, I'm walking down the
hall and Jackson comes running up to me and he goes,
you know, are you okay?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
And the teacher was like, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (46:23):
He was like, you just don't look as happy as
you usually do, or you are right?

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Is anything bothering you? Would you like to have a
conversation with me and just talk it through?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Like he was like, now, you just don't seem as
happy as you do, but don't let things stress you out.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Just pray on it and tomorrow'll be better. Right, And
if you need to talk to me, Come talk to me.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
And he said, Jackson ran off and he was like,
I've never had an adult or a child ever do
that to me. So he was like, whatever you're doing
at home, continue that, and you know, I mean that
just shows what the kids are learning at home is
worth every and so you need.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
To report that teacher too. He don't need to be
in the school.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
You got some time.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
Such a beautiful family.

Speaker 15 (47:11):
Thank you, you know.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Have you, Thank you for pulling up and for everybody else.
We just want to add this last part. We actually
wrote it with somebody that helped us out with terms
and helped us with different phrases and helped us with
made sure that we were actually doing the right thing
when it came to raising our kids.

Speaker 12 (47:28):
Yes, so we wrote it alongside a psychologist because yes,
because we wanted to make sure that our outlooks were
were on the level that I would want to put
it out to the public. I wanted the psychological research
and quarterbacking behind the way that we parent to pretty.

Speaker 15 (47:50):
Much put a stamp on it, to know that what we're.

Speaker 12 (47:52):
Doing not just from our personal experience driven point of
view is sound, but from a psychological point of view
is also sound. Wanted to make sure that alongside the
truth and the transparency and the experience that we had
that backing to the book as well. I wanted that
level of value in the book as well.

Speaker 15 (48:10):
So and also you.

Speaker 12 (48:12):
Know, if you have a child with anxiety, add ADHD,
other setbacks, other disabilities, you know, we speak to you
in this book as well, because those people are very like.

Speaker 15 (48:22):
They don't have that many resources.

Speaker 12 (48:23):
This book is for anyone who is a parent, a
single parent, a parent that is married.

Speaker 15 (48:29):
Maybe about to have kids next, someone that wants to
have a child. Wow, you look over here, thank you,
it's it's it's it's forever.

Speaker 12 (48:40):
It's a very relatable book and there's a lot of
exercises in the book. We kind of also created it
in like a workbook.

Speaker 15 (48:46):
Style, so there's a lot of reflections.

Speaker 12 (48:48):
There's a lot of places in there for you to
answer questions, so you can kind of analyze yourself and
understand your own point of view in a way of
like articulation, where if you haven't really thought about certain things,
it'll jog you to think about things. And even if
you don't duke, don't take on take it encourages you
and helps you to come up with your own takes
on parenting.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
So you have to my real family, the Casey Crews,
the Breakfast club gave.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
Me donkey other day, and I deserve that. You need
to know what you need to tell them.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I am you have the boy.

Speaker 6 (49:17):
Tell them it's time for don't give the day.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
It's a read.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
But you're so good at your charlamage.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
Sure you wants Charlomagne to go.

Speaker 6 (49:28):
Yeah, Solomon, who do you give the dusk the other day?

Speaker 5 (49:31):
Sooner?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Well, sexy rad Donkey of to day goes to Robert
Langleiss in Tunisia, eBay. They had thirty three and thirty
two years old, respectively, and they was trying to duck
the law. Okay, just like you did last night. It's okay,
all right. Somebody out there listening to me right now.
Ran from the police late last night, early this morning.
It happens, I understand, all right. One of the best
feelings in the world is running from police and getting away.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Trust me, I know, I sold crack ones. Okay, when
the police are coming to raise your spot and you
hit the woods and get away, what an exilt feeling. Now,
you shouldn't be doing illegal things that would make the
police come after you. I am not encouraging that.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I'm just simply saying that when you are doing illegal
things and the police come for you and you get away, incredible. Now,
Robin and Tania don't know what that feels like. No,
officers tried to execute a warrant on a property in
Fall River, Massachusetts, and Robin and Tania tried to get away,
but it didn't work. Let's go to NBC ten Boston
for the report.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Police. No, that's not Santa Claus.

Speaker 16 (50:24):
You're looking at police body camera video from Fall River.
It shows a man there stuck in a chimney where
told officers executed a search warrant at a home on
Canal Street last night. That's when thirty three year old
Robert Langleace tried to evade arrest by hiding in a chimney.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
It didn't work.

Speaker 16 (50:42):
He got stuck. Police had to call in the fire
department to get him out. Langlace is facing drug charges.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
See this is what happens when you believe in Santa Claus.
Every year, you all get mad at me for telling
the truth. No, Santa Claus is not real, Okayanta.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Clause is not real. Clause is not real.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Number one, reindeers don't fly they Number two, you don't
even own the chimney, all right. Number three, if you
owned the chimney, would Santa Claus be able to fit
down it?

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Have you seen Santa Claus?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
He's built exactly like former Governor of New Jersey, Chris Christie.
All right, there's no way. There's no way his big
ass could fit down the chimney. But you humans have
convinced yourselves that the story of saying it is real
and being that you all think sand is real. You
think what Santa does is real, and you thought your
dumb ass could just slide down the chimney and end
up wear exactly Huh in somebody's living room eating milk

(51:34):
and cookies.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Now, Robin and Tania will both charged with possession of
class A and B drugs. I had to look that up.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Class A drugs in Massachusetts are heroin, morphine, meth, ecstasy,
and ketamine. All right, Class B drugs, somebody tell what.

Speaker 15 (51:49):
You think.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Nick's ready for vacation drug tests up? My god?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Class B drugs of cocaine, crack, lsd an, ecstasy. Okay, Listen,
none of this is surprising in light of the circumstances.
Whoever made up the story of Santa Claus.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Was high as hell. Okay, it's the only explanation.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
And the fact we created this one size fitch sauce
story that doesn't even make no damn sense hasn't even
really stood the test of time if you think about it.
We live in the era of Amazon fed x ups
dropping packages off all types today, all times a night.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
But all Santa God is a.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Bag, one bag, like he a hole who just stayed
over for the night, and he got something for everybody
in the world, and just one bag dressed in all red.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
So he don't go to crip neighborhoods. Huh.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Not to mention, Nobody ever questions who exactly are the elves.
I don't think they are else at all. I think
Santa Claus is engaging in child labor. Okay, if he's real,
he got a bunch of kids in the know poll
treating him like slaves either that are they are desperate
migrants from Mexico and Santa Claus has benefiting from cheap
illegal labor. Now, some of y'all out there are saying yourself.
Charlamage is on the radio making up things about Santa Claus.

(52:58):
If you feel that way, then you two are on
Class A class be drugs. I'm making up things about
a made up thing.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
The morrow of the story is police described Robert's antics
ass Santa like, well, this deseason, please give Robert Langlish
the sweet sounds of the Hamilton.

Speaker 18 (53:12):
So you oh the day, oh the day, ye.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Becauseta, Santa Claus is real.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
I don't know why you your ass all year long
to give a fat white man the credit for taking
care of your family.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
I did say Santa was white. I just said Sada's real.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Well, either way giving another man credit, but that is
crazy though, exactly what type of man gives another man
credit for taking care of his fami?

Speaker 2 (53:54):
He grew up Jehovah witness.

Speaker 6 (53:56):
I mean, oh my god, it is the whole community
dealing with reality.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
So yeah, so Santa Israel and Shelter being good out there.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
So that's right, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
So so Santa could get you toys and the Elvisanta
watching you guys to make sure you guys are doing
the right thing, so you can get more toys from Santa.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
He has children, young children, Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
N okayhole, who laugh at us because they're like, why
are you trying to convince us that this entity is real?

Speaker 2 (54:31):
But suit it for levels?

Speaker 7 (54:34):
Your kids know more about civil rights and everything.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
He hasn't introduced that to them.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yet, so you re all right, jesus.

Speaker 6 (54:49):
I don't know the last time I seen the chimney?

Speaker 2 (54:52):
What is the chimbley? What's stretched out? Stressed? When you
when you make up your words? And I know because
you got your list for going on. But I it's
always been chimney for me.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
You got a five place. I have a five place,
but I don't have a chimney. If you have a
five place, you have a chimney.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Oh so when is it?

Speaker 6 (55:09):
Where is that in the attics?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (55:11):
I've never seen the chimney, John, If I got a chimney,
youth exactly?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
An electric five place?

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Though?

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Oh see, now how you do that? You have a chimney, sir?
What an electric five place? Yes? I don't know.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
And we know about houses.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
I know when we don't got Santa Claus. Okay, I
know we ain't got that. I know that much.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I hate this place, man, all right, it's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Good morning morning everybody in stej n V, Jess, Hilarious,
Charlamagne and the God.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
We are the Breakfast Club. You got a special guests.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
In the bat Man, who I feel like him and
Jess have one of the best co parenting relationships I've
ever seen.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Room is Hell, Room is here. I got already Room
you Wow, what happened?

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Just saying I want to know who gave Room some
liquid this morning? And I was like, I ain't give
it to abody, just told them where the ball was. Yes,
help you help yourself.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
That's fine.

Speaker 7 (56:00):
You said it was apple juice, and so I was
about to take a step and I was like, I
was not.

Speaker 13 (56:05):
You already knew it one apple juice. I just ain't
thank you. Was gonna pick the cup up?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
You and just have the best parents in situation I've
ever witnessed. How did y'all get to this point?

Speaker 4 (56:13):
There?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
And she thinks she's my mother first and foremost, But
it took time. I felt like when you take the.

Speaker 13 (56:19):
Feelings out of it and you realize that the child
is the most important part of the relationship, because it's
still a reallyship.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Whether you're intimate or not, you can do magical things.

Speaker 13 (56:31):
Magical things, And I think that me being a dad
that I was and that I am still today, I
wanted that.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
I felt like if.

Speaker 13 (56:38):
We wasn't gonna be together, it was more need for
us to be. We've created over time. Whereas now she's
my best friend, she's my safe space. I feel like
when I convent to her because sometimes all the time
I need it. But I feel like when I was
pouring into these other women, they would use against me.
Whereas though now now that she's pregnant, I don't really

(57:00):
call it and say certain things because I know she's
going through certain things mentally now. So Ess is always
with my safe space though, so it's like she's always
been a person that I go to a call give
me advice, some advice I don't take, but just to hear,
but just to hear her give it to you, just
to know that she cared, because.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Like, man, I don't really have nobody. How did y'all,
how did y'all meet? How did you meet Jesson? How
did y'all start dating? Back then? Did you see it
when it was.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Like, oh, this is this is somebody I want to
it's crazy because we grew up on the he'starting to smile.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
He goes back, No, because my mom, my mom was alive.
My mom down was a tenth. My mom was alive.
We went to the same church. My mom died.

Speaker 13 (57:36):
My father like really took me away from everybody. So
now it was like fast forward. I'm like seventeen Facebook
and she came across my timeline. I was like, okay,
so I did a dot dot dot and I put
a basketball.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Emoses you thought she was a w just shut up.
He played with you, but she bid on a tick.

Speaker 13 (58:00):
I think I was like, I'm just coming to get
my ball. Coming to get was mine something?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
And you wat a basketball room. I needed to know.
I've seen it somewhere. Basketball. No, I seen somebody do that. Like,
I don't know what I seen. Basketball is eleven year,
twelve years ago. So I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 13 (58:18):
I I did it because I thought it was it
was corny, but I thought it was you know, but
it worked.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
It got our test. What do you think just when
you saw the basketball, I just.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
Said I just typed that back and like he said,
it was my ball, it's my ball, and I'm coming
to get I'm coming to get it or something like
I'm coming to get.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
With mine And I was like, okay, what's up.

Speaker 7 (58:37):
I knew what that was, giving what it was about it,
but it worked.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
It worked. So you started talking, Where was your first date?

Speaker 3 (58:44):
What was your first when you started first talking?

Speaker 2 (58:46):
What was your honest? Man, jas did a lot.

Speaker 13 (58:50):
I'm gonna say this, before a lot of these young
guys became Jody, I was Jody and that first date,
big date. I'm gonna say it was six flags.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Okay, okay, all right, doing it big.

Speaker 13 (59:08):
But before that we did a lot of other things.
But after that it was we did a lot. Like
she introduced me to a lot. Actually we both it
was the same age, but she helped make me become God,
you're becoming a man, feming the man and then yeah,
then boom.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
I just always says that you are you were overprotective,
make sure she was good.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
But she always said, you can't fight. Oh my god, no,
she never seen me fight. Had we thought?

Speaker 6 (59:33):
I got that from.

Speaker 13 (59:37):
I'm not want to fight her. Bro Oh, it's crazy
because I just got a picture from the window.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
You bust the minds one window? Would I fist What
what happened? You can't be her? And if she could
break a window from a fist out when you're trying
to fight, what happened?

Speaker 14 (59:52):
Wrong?

Speaker 2 (59:53):
To take a sip thinking about that?

Speaker 13 (01:00:00):
My step like, Jessica pull up, mindu eate together. Jessica
pulls up. I had a girl in the house. So
my brother like, come to the top of the steps.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Like just at the door. I'm like, all right here
I come. You don't even wait for me to come.
He let her, He let her in. Oh boy, I
walked right past him and his friends with the girl.
That's the good end step.

Speaker 13 (01:00:22):
But what did I see when I walked down the steps? Jerne,
you didn't see so and then she tries to passage
this story.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Ashton, I had a portable.

Speaker 13 (01:00:29):
Rocking bashing that where I could put it in the trunk,
send it to her, bring it back. Ashton was in
a portable rocking joint. Me and the girl was on
the on the bed. I had on basketball short, she
had on her uniform pasts. She gonna say, she's been
saying this.

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
Is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
She's a correctional officer.

Speaker 13 (01:00:51):
So like she's sitting she's facing me, but her legs
is like, you know how that goes to come down and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Says she keeps she gonna say, oh, we was naked.
We was not naked. It been happening. I don't get
when she topped it up. Oh my gosh. She's never
gonna tell anyway, she banged the girl, beat up the girl.
She didn't beat up, bang popped and I picked up
and walked up stairs and through outside.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
You could never lift me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
You never see what I'm saying. He never wants to.
She never wants to admit the truth. On the field.
Couldn't fight. No, I ain't.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
Fight or not.

Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
But she the one time and then she she put
on her uniform and went unless went upstairs. I promise you,
I wish it was the cat that that. No, my
son was not in no portable nothing. He was on
the floor on a blanket and the cat was looking
at him like he wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
To eat him.

Speaker 13 (01:01:43):
Yes, under the carpet. So I will never lay my
I wouldn't even lay on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
About this eleven. She never want to tell you. She
was drunk out of her mind. And I'm trying to
figure out whoever was just getting off work. Just damn
a joke. You didn't.

Speaker 7 (01:02:01):
Damn you didn't just get off where he was fired
at that time. So I got fired right after that.
I was working at McDonald's. That's when I was stealing
this is and then if I was drinking, okay, I
was rinking on the joe, but I was at work.
So and then I came to get my son and
did not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Come get your son because it was my weekend. So
what I was getting until Monday from day kid? Why
would you coming now? He was coming to be nosy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
I didn't have to come to you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Was looking at a passinger with you to get.

Speaker 13 (01:02:31):
She because go home eleven, old man, that's my job.
How did you break the women shut off her hand?
You walked out this car? No, I threw ass out.

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
Not that you was not that strong.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
You did not. Yeah, I mean I had you and
it was steps right then.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
Had never ever eaten right now, could not do that
the window.

Speaker 7 (01:02:59):
I was just really really because he wouldn't give me
my son. Don't give me my son. You called the police.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I'm the police.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
Call the police.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Never called the police. Yeah, I call the police.

Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
I went to jail that night.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Everybody everybody here is well, I'm from the jailer.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Is right there, right around the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
You can walk. It's they walked to. I don't know
how they came.

Speaker 7 (01:03:22):
He called the police on me and then going, and
then when the police came, I was I just sat
in my car.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I was mad.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
I was like, no, I can't move here to get
my son. And Nicole did tell me your come on
is pull off. He's not giving you the baby. He
not giving you the baby.

Speaker 6 (01:03:34):
I was like, all right, cool, but I was mad,
so I didn't pull off.

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
Police paddy wagon pulled up and got out, and you
was like, she right there.

Speaker 13 (01:03:47):
I try to get you. How did I try to
get you locked up? When I'm the same one call
try to bail you out with no money?

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
I don't know why you ever thought you could bild
somebody out with sleep that night trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Check this out. You have a bit you ever went
through a woman phone? Of course? Could you eat after that?

Speaker 15 (01:04:04):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
You could?

Speaker 13 (01:04:05):
Well I couldn't. I'm comparing that to when she went
to jail. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, you know,
and thick I was sick.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
I didn't I didn't want jail. I call the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Police, so Now when you hear this story and you
say to yourself, why they there on national co parenting
because they are like the best of friends. Now they
call each other. Jeff calls you her brother. How do
you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
How did y'all get there? Do you look at her
like your sister?

Speaker 7 (01:04:30):
You said, Mama, I was going to say what she
said created that like my mother.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Like when we are out of town, like my main't
gonna disclose too much, but thanks she my mam.

Speaker 13 (01:04:40):
No, I just know like the control like she know
how I am though, like me and alone, I think
part of that controlling pause.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Like she cares.

Speaker 13 (01:04:49):
And sometimes especially when I'm under the influence, I've done
dumb ash so as.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Good as you know that you can, I don't know.
I just assist in the back.

Speaker 13 (01:05:00):
Everybody like you know, everybody knows, but I hold myself
accountable to that mind you Now, I ain't gonna say
you I learned from woman stick cause I can die
a dumbash over and over again. But I think in
that aspect, that's when the mother of the mother with
the v coming but the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Brother called me brother and sister. We're like honestly without
the child like it's there.

Speaker 13 (01:05:19):
It seemed like Amazon camera's off, like you can't fake this,
will make this up?

Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
Oh yeah, Rome started that room started calling me sis first,
and then I started calling him bro. I you know,
I'm like, yeah, we do have like a sibling dynamic
in some way. You know, he's still confides in my mom.
He like, my mom is our mother? Like it's not
it ain't nothing crazy, it's nothing intimate. Like seriously, I
always say this. People be like, yeah, right, I can

(01:05:45):
literally walk past and I don't do this, but what
I'm saying, I can walk past this man nigked and
he does. They be like, girl, what like pick that out?
I'm talking about seriously, like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
How do y'all know each other's spouse's or each other's
boyfriend and girlfriend? Like how do you deal with his girl?
And how do you deal with five?

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
I never told you always try.

Speaker 13 (01:06:10):
It's cool though, it's cool, but this is this and
now this was the friction part. Now we got over that,
but this the fric The friction part was I my Betdess.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
I don't getting her.

Speaker 13 (01:06:19):
But the friction part was her getting into minds. But
she's still a woman. I'm still a man, So women
tend to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
And this is not no shame of women.

Speaker 13 (01:06:28):
I don't mean no disrespect by saying it, but I
think women tend to do that, especially a woman that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Care about you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
She said, sometimes you make bad decisions and she's there
as your sister to make sure you're good, regardless if
it's life relationship or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Correct said that.

Speaker 13 (01:06:44):
With me personally, I never really like I talked to
about certain things, but I never really liked my family
to get into no intimate situation. Yeah, because guess what,
y'all feel a way about this person. However, I want
whether it's negative of good. If I'm gonna deal with
this person, I'm gonna deal with like mal can smash
it out me yesterday, mm hmmm, I might get over them.

(01:07:06):
But it's like that's why I always That's how I
was always able to distinguish the two. Like when Jessica
will have men when she comes to me, like I
don't know, like I ain't never pillow talking or sneak
dish or nothing like I don't really care for Like,
it ain't nothing that I don't if you put it
in that sense. But when she come to me with
a man, I tell her ain't right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
But both of y'all got because you're gonna want to
know who around your son.

Speaker 13 (01:07:28):
I never did, yeah, I never so in the beginning stage, yeah,
don't have my summer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
But I grew out of that.

Speaker 13 (01:07:34):
So now it's I trust my child mom enough to
she won't bring no fast around my child. So I
don't say, oh, don't have this. That's never been a problem.
It has been a problem was because envy me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Except for my last.

Speaker 13 (01:07:47):
Doge my dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Who who's the dog? My dog, Chris, Chris, Chris my dog,
my dog. I ain't gonna hold he.

Speaker 13 (01:07:55):
I think he's the I think like man, honestly me
and jesss man like. I think it's in times where
a woman didn't like me and her situation.

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
But guess what, bye, Yeah more so on and yeah
it'll be more so on his end because it's much
more of them. But the thing is, the thing is
like I don't like when because I even tell him
what he's doing wrong too, Like, yo, don't cheer her
like that?

Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
This is how how how you going to introduce me
to it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Now?

Speaker 7 (01:08:25):
I done got to know where you know, and whether
she had a kid or not. Most of the time.
It's the ones that have the kids. But it's like, yo,
you gotta do right or just be single, Like, don't
keep hurting women in the process of trying to find
what you're looking for. I mean, I know that's all
a part of dating, but when you have kids, it's different,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
And then he be like, oh, that's why I don't
like you to be getting into it, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
And then I don't like he attracts a lot of
toxic women to like abusive relationships where women will put
their hands on them. I'm like, what, all right, you know,
but he don't. He's like, no, but I might be
of the mom what she just blacks your eye?

Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
What are you talking about? You know what I'm saying, like, no,
we're not doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
But Claire, I never had a black guy.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Okay, well she busts her nose whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:09:11):
Women have put their hands on you, and that's why.

Speaker 13 (01:09:16):
And that's why she's my dog, Like I think she's
the only one really honestly, the one to get the
under my skin. Like it's a certain wordplace she used
and I don't care what tone she used it in,
but to say that, it's like I was really never
tolt how to love.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
When I moved my dad, my dad moved.

Speaker 13 (01:09:33):
My dad and my step mom, which is my mom
now and my mom have a great relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
That's my step mom and my dad was married.

Speaker 13 (01:09:40):
But my dad was cheating, like saying, like my dad,
my dad showing me that I'm thinking cool. So like
when even when I started dealing with women and stuff
like that, multiple women and all that, my dad was like, yeah, absolutely,
and I'm thinking it's cool because that's how you're being

(01:10:01):
That's that's what I'm saying. I'm being taught like and
every man in my life that I looked at as
a role model to me was the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
So it's like what you expect.

Speaker 13 (01:10:11):
But the good thing is now it's like I'm old
enough now in mind you I ain't perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Now I'm seeing it. I'm trying to, you know, change it.

Speaker 13 (01:10:19):
But I've never was taught to love properly. So and
I never my trust issues up from my dad because
I'm seeing what he's doing. But I'm saying when it's
done to him, his reactions like damn, you were just
doing this, How you're gonna get mad?

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Right?

Speaker 13 (01:10:34):
So it's like every relationship I've went into. I had
an exploration date me, I put an xtray on myself.
I said, she's gonna get, she gonna get get what
I'm getting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
I'm gone.

Speaker 13 (01:10:42):
So I've never really gave a woman the commitment, not
even commitment, but I've never give the woman a chance
to really love me. But even with the kids, like
even having kids, No, I haven't. And this is like
I said, no distrest to my children, moms. A lot
of my my children came out of vulnerability, explain found
on that and explaining that. So I will meet a

(01:11:03):
woman who I may feel like she's what I need,
another safe place or whatever the case may be. But
I'm already vulnerable from a previous relationship. I have a child,
knowing I don't want to be with this woman, but
I feel like I'm forced to be with it because
it's a child.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
MM and I've done that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
You know multiple times times you needed a therapist, not
another baby, Mam.

Speaker 13 (01:11:24):
I need correct they at the time of me, at
the time in vulnerability. You know women, you know women,
women can they be masked up. But like I never
really knew how to be alone. Like I feel like
I got to have somebody laying next to me, because
even before my mom died, my mom always sleep naked.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
This is a back then thing.

Speaker 13 (01:11:43):
How old were you, I was telling, But I was
a mommy's boy. Did you ever did you ever really
properly so grieving?

Speaker 9 (01:11:51):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:11:52):
I never really a grieved. All I did was I
thought it was gonna help me by going to school
for social work because that's what she was. But I
never really probably grieve, and that's a that's a process.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Now. I do want to get, you know, back in
the gym.

Speaker 13 (01:12:03):
I do want to get a therapist, but don't want
everything else around me to be intact so that I
could fully commit, because if I ain't fully committed, it
ain't gonna work.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
How did y'all that's the most I think, the most
I won't say most important, one of the most important things.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
How did y'all realize we don't have feelings for each other?

Speaker 9 (01:12:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
More?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Like? How did that just go away? Like y'all have
y'all love each other? But not that way?

Speaker 13 (01:12:24):
I got my answer, you want to go first, you
can go first, because I'm still thinking when I stopped
caring about who she dealt with, when I wouldn't even like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
I wouldn't even care, Like how long did that take?

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Three years? Like when action was like.

Speaker 13 (01:12:39):
Three it was still really yeah, it was like three years.
But at that but honestly that three years, like I
had caught a big check, so it was like, you know,
I was almost half a million dollars, So it was
like the pain that I had. Whatever the case be,
I would I would pay. I would have like just
bot block it out. But other than that, like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
You ain't trying to ftund on her a little? No,
I never, no, I never, no, I never. I'm waiting
for that. I never intentionally stunned on her. I never
did that. Never. I did everything she possibly could ask
me to do. She said on.

Speaker 13 (01:13:14):
One of these souls something about a B G. E bill,
And I'm address that I never wanted. I'm addressed that
now with the bill. So so i'ma explaining her lights
got cut off.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
I got a five hundred thousand dollars checking Listen.

Speaker 13 (01:13:30):
No, it wasn't right then and there, but it's over time,
mind you, like mind a lot of my places, she
helped me. She helped me get a lot on the
back end. But in a time like I helped her.
Whatever the case, I didn't know she's moving with a man.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
I didn't move with the man.

Speaker 13 (01:13:44):
Well she moved man in with her. Yeah, all right, okay,
he had you and the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Dog too, no before in my business, so I don't
know that he's not there.

Speaker 13 (01:13:54):
So boom, here's his So here's here's here's my logic,
and I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say to her
after I playing it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
My logic was, all right, man is in the house. Boom,
eager cut off. So she like, was wrong. I'm like, well, I.

Speaker 13 (01:14:07):
Take my son with me. But that wasn't me talking.
That was the girlfriend I had talking. Oh a, I
never told you that because as a woman, you ain't
trying to hear that, and as well as a man
and you be and me, I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Don't want to hear that.

Speaker 13 (01:14:20):
So I didn't want to tell you that because I
have felt less of a man. So yeah, but now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
I understand them.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
If somebody else is smacking the cheeks, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
So the girlfriend was So the girlfriend.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
Was like, don't talk about no house ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
So the girlfriend was like, I took a certain amount
of money up the bank. I did.

Speaker 13 (01:14:41):
She was with me, She like, why are you giving
it to Jessica. I'm like, cause she needed and she like,
I never said them here. I never said the reason.
I never said the reason. Yeah, yeah, I never said
the reason though. She was like, what exactly do she needs?
Because I know you ain't giving her. No, she don't
need a bag and nothing like that. I'm like, no,
it's something else. She's like, well, don't she got to

(01:15:04):
living with her? And mind you, I'm drinking at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
You're thinking the same thing. I'm like, we.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
Weren't even thinking that till she said it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
I wasn't thinking that, but I'm drinking and I'm like, no,
what You're right?

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Why you ain't a just though crazy people phone say
because I was a young emotional boy who had.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
Just ran it to a bunch of money and with.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
That, I'm hurt. Hurt young man got a lot of money.
Everybody got some money. I'm doing make myself happy, and
that's how.

Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
I broke everybody except me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
That was what I was like, and granted.

Speaker 13 (01:15:40):
Right now on today, I'm gonna say I truly, sincerely
apologized for not taking care of you the way I
should have.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
And I'm gonna take my glasses because for a long time.

Speaker 13 (01:15:54):
That hurt me, and it's like I never ever, ever,
especially never ever ever ever meant to do that to you.
And it's like, now, that's why even I worked so
hard today and just try to even just give you something.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
But in due time that should come back. I ain't
you know.

Speaker 13 (01:16:13):
I hadn't made that back when broke again, made it
back broke again. But my biggest downfall, the comments denominator,
was alcohol and women. Them two problems never allowed me
to really freach my full potential, even when I seen
it a couple of years ago. You've seen it twenty
nineteen when I was single. When I went moved back
by myself, I ran flourished, but if women holding me back. Man,

(01:16:37):
I'm sorry that I didn't do what I was supposed
to do and a lot of more. Dude, I wasn't
the job the when you done.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
I felt that I was gonna do it, but because
I had certain people.

Speaker 13 (01:16:44):
In my in my ear that I thought had their
best interest in me, but when the bag ran out,
they left.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Not a sorry person.

Speaker 7 (01:16:53):
I apologize, Okay, I appreciate that, but listen, I was
not I was talking to you and he moved in
months after. You think he was gonna move into a
dark house. You think you think I wanted to see
how I was living. No, And when you said, I
asked you, like, yo, can you just get my my
lights on? I'll pay you back. That's when I was

(01:17:13):
scamming and doing all that shit. That got slow too,
So I'm like, all right, you was like, no, I
take my son. Nobody taking my kid, not even as far.
Like as long as Asha instead of the dark, we
was good, you know what I'm saying. Like I still
had candles, we was playing, We was doing all that.
We would stay outside until it went until it got dark,
and then we were going in the house. And him
he ain't never asked me why the lights ain't coming on.

(01:17:35):
It don't matter. So as long as he was good,
I was good. I just wanted to be able, you
know what I'm saying, and just be like, yo, get
my life and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
You should have.

Speaker 13 (01:17:43):
Well guess what that made you a demon? And when
I say demon, I said, in the best way, that
turned you up. And I got to teach my kid,
especially my oldest boy, might leve me, yo, bro, like
I don't want you to go through something bad to
learn a lesson.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
I don't think.

Speaker 13 (01:17:56):
Everybody should have to go through something bad and learn
a lesson. But in your case, I feel like, yeah,
that put that battery in your back. You know, when
that battery came in your back, you ain't it ain't
treat me no way. It took still a minute for
us to create that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Bond, but y'all have it now. And I think y'all
should give each other some grades because y'all yeah, and
I always was a hurt young man, so right. I
love the story.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
It shows the foundation and how and how y'all treat
each other.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
You know, I don't know you, but the way she
talks about you on the radio, and and like you said,
she is a mother, She protects you, she holds you down.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
I just love to see it.

Speaker 12 (01:18:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Sometimes I'll be telling us that I'm talking about room
like that, like why you be talking about But I
get it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
She don't mean no.

Speaker 13 (01:18:42):
Harm, but she don't, like I said, man, like I
wish a lot of other people would take from us.
And that's why to be on TV, that's why you're
writing a book, book coming, Everything coming, Everything coming.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
I think the most important thing because I don't want
you to save a lot of this, but what's the
most important thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
It takes the cole parents.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Y'all just leave leaving on that because the National co
Parenting Day, Yo, I.

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
Started up communication.

Speaker 7 (01:19:08):
Like a lot of people be scared to hurt each
other feelings, and a lot of people be afraid to
have uncomfortable conversations, whether it's about kids, unhashed differences whatever.
Like one day me and Rome just literally met up
and just we just talked about everything that, you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:26):
Know, he felt like I did him wrong in certain situations, and.

Speaker 7 (01:19:28):
Then he felt like like I will always try because
he says I'm controlling a lot, and I do take that,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I own that idea,
Like I was trying to control how he parents sometimes,
like how he.

Speaker 6 (01:19:40):
Would raise Ash and all of that type of stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:19:43):
We just put everything on the table and just it's
just like all right, you're moving forward, cause it's really
about Ash, right, And that's really like when we after that,
it was like no looking back, It's like all right, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
I'm sure it's a discussion that will continue on, not
even just amongst you know, just in Rome, but this month.
Anybody out there, you're dealing with coparents and issue. But
I think Rome, you know, Rome is talking to a
lot of different issues that a lot of us men go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Through, you know what I mean. So I'm happy that
you was vulnerable this morning. Right, that's right, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
And their book is coming soon, be a black privilege
posa simon the shoes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
All right, well it's wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Yes, it's the Breakfast Club the morning. It's time for positive.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Note what we got positive?

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Notice simply this man, be careful what you wish for
uthers because it just might get to you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
To wish bad things for somebody else is actually like
looking for something bad to happen to you. Because when
you wish bad calm on somebody else, you bring bad
calm on yourself. Okay, you are consuming and bringing in
negative vibes into your life.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Instead, be the person you wish they were.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Be the person who brings only positive thoughts and good
vibes into their own life, because being negative yourself will
only bring negative into your life. Don't poison yourself hoping
somebody else will die. All right, Breakfast Club, finish for y'all,
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