The Breakfast Club BEST OF 2(Teddy Swim, Nina Parker & KevOnStage, And Leon Thomas Interview)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Djess, Hilenio, Charlotte mae'stening to the back.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Plus thank y'all for bere like coach, are leaders got family.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
The Breakfast Club is where people get the information on
the topics, on the artists and everything like that.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 4 (00:14):
You guys went nice.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Everybody got me all nervous like you guys. Let's not
go Yeah, you locked into the world's most dangerous wanting show.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
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Speaker 5 (00:35):
Ray right, Ray Yo.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Charlomagne Davy, what up are we losing?

Speaker 6 (00:39):
This is your time to get it off your chest.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I got an indoor pool, outdoor pool.

Speaker 6 (00:43):
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what
it is.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
We live.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hello. Who's this?

Speaker 7 (00:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
This man?

Speaker 7 (00:52):
Man?

Speaker 8 (00:52):
How y'all doing?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (00:53):
Ben?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Getting off your chest? Ben uh man?

Speaker 7 (00:55):
I just want to first of all, good morning Jess,
Good morning, charlat Man.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Good morning, he pe all right, uh firy thing.

Speaker 9 (01:02):
I just want to get this.

Speaker 7 (01:03):
I'm gonna say. I can't say this to my girl,
so I'm gonna just say it to y'all.

Speaker 8 (01:07):
I hate my girl.

Speaker 7 (01:08):
Dogs.

Speaker 10 (01:09):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
What kind of dogs are they?

Speaker 11 (01:12):
That she got?

Speaker 7 (01:14):
Some kind of little poodle dog and American pit?

Speaker 9 (01:19):
Okay, I am a dog guy.

Speaker 7 (01:21):
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 9 (01:22):
I love dogs.

Speaker 7 (01:23):
I just didn't grow up with dogs in my house. Okay,
but he's dog about to be crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
I don't know how.

Speaker 7 (01:29):
Okay to all the dog people out there, I don't
know how y'all dealing with dogs running all around y'all
house and dog here everywhere, but just about to make
me say, hey, I can't do it.

Speaker 8 (01:39):
No more.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Cleaning up, bro, I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:43):
I just refused, like, I don't even.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
Walk these dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You'll got kids.

Speaker 7 (01:46):
I don't do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, lord, damn, he's about to walk away, because what
are they doing to you?

Speaker 11 (01:56):
Man?

Speaker 7 (01:58):
Listen, the dogs ain't doing nothing. They just they just
stupid dogs. And I hate dogs everywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (02:05):
I don't like going to work with dog here all
over me. Okay, that's crazy. We look. These dogs don't
even be in my car. And I got dog here
in my car.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
It's sound vacuum in my.

Speaker 7 (02:16):
Car, and my all lady with every day because I'm
thinking of these dogs.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
It sounds like y'all need more space, like more and
more space than when your residents.

Speaker 8 (02:26):
Yeah, he got a nice size house.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
Ain't no space.

Speaker 12 (02:29):
You need to getting ready to eat.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Damn to make one of them come up missing? You
don't do that.

Speaker 7 (02:37):
Listen, this is what made me call this morning. I
listened to this show.

Speaker 9 (02:41):
Every morning those all the way to work, just like
I'm doing now. But I had a dream about poisoning
them dolls last night. I said, boy, I might need
to talk. I might need to call charl Many talk
to them. But this is something going on with the missal.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Having dreams about Did you and your wife have a
conversation and tell her how you feel?

Speaker 7 (03:02):
Yeah, we had to do a bigger argument. I ain't
trying to go ahead no more.

Speaker 13 (03:08):
So why don't you buy one of them kid gate?
You know the little kitty gates. But but I want
the little kitty gates and put the dogs and the
kiddy gates.

Speaker 7 (03:14):
That what, Charlotte?

Speaker 8 (03:15):
I don't want dogs? Yeah, look.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
All right, man, so let me let me walk out.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
So let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Dog, when you heard that there was when you heard
the lie that they was eating catching dogs in Ohio?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Did you did you? Did you smile a little bit?

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Did you think about taking a little trip a little bit?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
You have a good one, man, I have a good one.

Speaker 9 (03:39):
Yeah, I have a good one.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Man, Get it off your chest. Eight hundred five five
one on five one. Did you grow you grow with dogs?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
No?

Speaker 10 (03:46):
I didn't grove with dogs, but I have those now,
Charlomagne A couple not like that though.

Speaker 14 (03:51):
I had a couple of rock walls when I was young.
I had a bad experience with somebody poisoned my dogs.
Somebody got tired of my Damn.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I had two rod walls named band Terror, and somebody
got tired of Terror and they poisoned the neighb with
poison them. I can't prove it that they would poison them,
but I feel like they would poison them. Uh No,
which one died? One of them died because they got poisoned.
One of them got picked up by the dog people
could be get.

Speaker 13 (04:14):
Jesus Christ. Yeah, I had shepherds all my life. My
dad didn't believe in having a dog as a petty.
If you had a dog, the dog need to have
a job. Oh wow, so you got to protect the
house again.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
That different.

Speaker 13 (04:24):
You ain't got no pety. You gotta have a job.
You're gonna protect this house. If now we don't want
a little dog, now we want a dog.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I want a dog now my.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Wife won't let me get one. Yep, I want to
stop African boar board.

Speaker 13 (04:33):
Well, get it off your chest eight hundred and five
eight five one oh five one. If you need to
vet hit us up now it's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I'm telling what you're doing.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
If this is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed eight hundred five five one.
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Hello? Who's this.

Speaker 8 (05:00):
Theme from the eight o three leave when I was
a late night booty call doing the Walk of shame
aka to ride a shame home.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
So you stak right now?

Speaker 5 (05:08):
No boy ooh, that got a.

Speaker 8 (05:11):
Good point, you know what? But actually I don't because
I don't eat meat and I don't really have an
older light that to be honest, that.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
That asparagus stink when you pee? Now, don't act like that.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
But was it a good night?

Speaker 7 (05:26):
At lea?

Speaker 8 (05:27):
It was a good night.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
But check this out before we get into my good night.
Go to my TikTok page.

Speaker 8 (05:33):
Not you, but y'all, five me listeners.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Coffee's content k A s k A F I s
k O is T E n T like get back
to the late night do the card? What's up?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I just asked if you enjoyed yourself?

Speaker 6 (05:45):
That's all?

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I always do though, Okay, this is a regular book,
this is something new, or this is a regular book.

Speaker 8 (05:52):
No, it's a regular booe. And next, I was a
virgin until I met him, and then I had two
kids already, But I was a burgeon until I met him,
because I never knew did you say any I knew?

Speaker 10 (06:01):
Again?

Speaker 8 (06:02):
Was missing out?

Speaker 5 (06:03):
All I never knew?

Speaker 14 (06:05):
Jesus well, oh, she said she was a virgin till
she met Oh, because you had two kids, but you
never had a well gas.

Speaker 8 (06:12):
I kind of didn't have an art. I just didn't.

Speaker 15 (06:16):
Okay, while I'm.

Speaker 8 (06:18):
Late night creeping on the weekday and I got to
be the work in the hour, and still I got
this son hold myself like thirty one and.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
My daughter ten how far what you're driving from? Where
your booty call at role?

Speaker 8 (06:32):
You a fastir road?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yes, I do road.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yes, the fab round ain't too far.

Speaker 8 (06:37):
It ain't too far. It's like a tap on the
road you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Get your ass back home. You gotta be working a
little bit.

Speaker 8 (06:45):
Right right the morning, Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Get home in time to take a shower, brush your
teeth before you kiss that ten year old two.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
You're going to smelling like.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
But you don't.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Stop playing with me. I told you I don't have
an owner.

Speaker 8 (07:00):
I don't eat me family right, Thank.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
You everybody that people, people that's thinking up. We don't
know what you do.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Hey, yo, get it off your chest.

Speaker 13 (07:12):
Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If
you need to ben hit us up now. It's the
Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Morning.

Speaker 13 (07:21):
Everybody is e J N V jess hilarious, Charlamagne the
guy we are the Breakfast Club just is out today.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Lauren's holding it down.

Speaker 13 (07:29):
And of course we got our niece Nola Hill, and
we got a special guest in the building. Brother Teddy swims, Hang,
I'm so honored me here man, I'm fine man, happy
to have you.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I really really excited, dude.

Speaker 11 (07:41):
We we did our album release party last night though,
so uh, you know again, excuse my drinking for.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
You don't drinking early in the morning. You see that
one over.

Speaker 16 (07:50):
Let's hear all.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
The way.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, yeah, I have one other way. Absolutely, Yeah, you're
drinking with a pregnant man? Is there?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Tell us about yourself, teddy, man, that's so loaded.

Speaker 11 (08:04):
I'm from Georgia, from from about thirty minutes east of
Atlanta and Conyers, Georgia, Rockdale County, and you know, like
singing songs and I'm a good, good, good boy.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
It was a very soulful, soulful voice. Did you grow
up in the church.

Speaker 11 (08:18):
Yeah, so my granddad was a Pentecostal pastor. I didn't
grow up singing in the church a lot, but I
you know, I definitely grew up with fire and brimstone
for sure.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
With the fear of God. Yeah you know what I mean,
you're afraid to sind? Oh no, no, not not these days.
I mean, but I'm just talking about like back in
the day was like a very yeah.

Speaker 11 (08:39):
Yeah, you know, like girls don't get haircuts, you know,
girls wear skirts, men wear jeans, like that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
It was really real kind of tight, and I was,
I mean, I'm very fortunate. I guess.

Speaker 11 (08:48):
I feel like I still subscribe to so many of
the principles of you know, even the police art there.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I do love that my my granddad was.

Speaker 11 (08:55):
As I was growing up with my granddad, he was
he was like, we wouldn't even go to restaurants that
would have bar in the restaurant, you know, And not
that he ever had a problem drinking, but it.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Was just he stood on his belief so much.

Speaker 11 (09:05):
The thing that I was always with him was that
I didn't subscribe to the idea that like telling people
that they're wrong and this is the only way to
believe something. I remember he looked at other churches and
be like, think that the only way he believed it
was right. I remember I remember the first time I
sang at his church, I might have been seventeen or
sixteen or something, and I remember.

Speaker 17 (09:22):
Him saying, like, you know, I want you to saying
at the church, Bud, but man, all these kids are
like break dancing and carry it on for the Lord.
And I was like, yo, pop, like nobody's broke dance
since like my mom was the child and if they
want to break dance for the Lord.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Fop, like, let him break dance for the Lord?

Speaker 7 (09:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
He was. He was very you know, stern, like just
by the book.

Speaker 11 (09:41):
If it wasn't in the Bible, then it was a sin,
you know what I mean. Yeah, hell yeah. My mom
was worse than I was. I remember, I remember getting
in trouble for all sorts of being like, I'm not
doing any of that. She was thought I was doing
all sorts of message. I mean, but she was a
passers kid.

Speaker 13 (09:57):
My mother was the But listen, I wanted to you know,
when you about rebellious, you started to playing football, all right, So, yes, sir,
it was her family was a big football family.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
So what got you from football to singing my different Jens?

Speaker 11 (10:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, an offensive offensive guard as well. Yeah,
and but I mean, I just five foot seven. Wasn't
really happening, you know, just in high.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
School, middle school at the time.

Speaker 11 (10:24):
Yeah, but I've been five foot seven since I was
in eighth grade, and so I thought they thought I
was gonna be big, you know, and then it just
it didn't happen. I started shooting up six foot two
and three and whooped my ass off.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
The line we got you into arts.

Speaker 11 (10:37):
Like my different Jesse, who still plays with me. I've
known him since I was little kid. Uh, his dad
was always in bands and stuff, so we started trying
to experiment and play music and stuff. And his older
sister was a musical theater and got us in the
musical theater. And I just kind of fell in love
with singing, and I was so I was hooked. I
was hooked that singing has changed my life. I wasn't
good always, but I fell in love with it, you know.

(10:59):
And I remember telling my mom that I was I
was gonna not do football anymore and I was gonna sing.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
And she was so so hurt. I brought out all
my memorabilia, like I can't believe you do this to us.
We were playing football, you know.

Speaker 11 (11:10):
And I remember my first little we did this show
called Damn Yankees. I did like two lines in it,
I think, and uh, after I got done, I come
off stage and she was like, I'm so sorry, baby,
this is where you belong.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Really you're a star, you know.

Speaker 16 (11:22):
After I did like two lines, you know, but it
was what do you mean by you weren't always good
at it?

Speaker 7 (11:27):
Like?

Speaker 16 (11:27):
How do you you sound.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
So we were so bad at it, you know, he
was in a group.

Speaker 11 (11:32):
Well, no, just me and my buddy Jesse. He still
plays guitar rights and he plays guitar in my band still.
And we as we were learning and trying to build
bands together and do it as kids. You know, we
just were really bad. You know, we sucked, like we're
just not good, like you can still fine actually on YouTube.
I was a senior in high school. My first band,
Heroic Bear, is still on YouTube, our first little EP.

(11:56):
And I was in like a metalcore band at the time,
And so you can still hear me like scream away
and like singing, and.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
If you want to, you can go to routine. If
you hear it, dude, you're gonna be like, Okay, yeah
you got good.

Speaker 15 (12:06):
Did you get lessons or did you practice or how
did you just so good?

Speaker 8 (12:09):
Well?

Speaker 11 (12:09):
I think I was so lucky. I mean, I was
in theater, you know, and I had a lot of
good friends and they were singing. But I think I
think the biggest thing was growing up in the like
when the YouTube era was first kind of starting, you know,
and if I had questions or if I wanted to
know how to sing There was always a live version
of singer singing, you know, so like I could I
could watch like live videos.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Of how how is how are they moving they throw?
How they moving their jaws? How are they yeah?

Speaker 11 (12:35):
Sect it, you know, I could. I could just sit
there and watch YouTube videos and see people singing live,
you know, like singing Craig David singing like and credit recovery.
I would pull up like YouTube proxy and just have
it behind the video and just like listen to Craig
David just I'm walking away j And I could listen
to by videos and watch their them play, you know
and singing.

Speaker 14 (12:55):
It was like do you think you like saw somebody
like Craig David and like mimic him, and that's how
you found your voice.

Speaker 11 (13:00):
So totally yeah, some of the best, man, some of
the best that ever did it. Marvin Gay watching I
was just reading man listening to Al Green, you know,
I mean, I just fell in love with the instrument
and I.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Was like, I want to know how to access that.

Speaker 13 (13:12):
And then you started doing these covers, right, and you
started covering songs and then you did one cover that
started shooting up crazy.

Speaker 11 (13:17):
So talk about that a little bit. Oh, I think
Shania Twain. I'm still the one was al like, that
was the one that really kind of went crazy for us.
You know, I love my mama, and my mama loved
Shanna Twain when I was coming up, I loved Shania
Twain too. That was that was a real life changing
one for us. Our first one we started out with
was because June twenty fifth of twenty nineteen was the

(13:38):
first time I never even expected doing covers, you know, online,
and we had found like the stems of Rock with
You online and Michael Jackson, yeah, and so it was
it was ten years right after he passed. It was
just ten year anniversary, and so I said, well, we
should just do Rock with You by Michael Jackson used
to pay homage to him and for the you know.
And then we uploaded it and it started doing well,

(13:58):
and was like, man, we should just keep this this cover.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Train kind of going.

Speaker 11 (14:01):
So we kept on for the next few months, and
I think the beautiful thing about starting with Rock with
You it started getting you know, this said. The first
day we woke up, we had like ten thousand views,
and it was so life changing for us. We like
the boys, we're getting hammered this is sick. And it
was such a weird thing because once it hit like
this this critical mass of like maybe five hundred thousand views,
I think people were looking at it and seeing the

(14:23):
way I look and then seeing the rock with You,
you know, and saying rock with You by Michael Jackson
and me, and and I'm looking like an absolute redneck
and saying like, either this is hilarious or this is
actually really good. And I think for our benefit it
was it was kind of both, you know, because just
the fact that I was singing that song but doing
it well was kind of funny and surprisingly good.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Why have you tried everything with therapy?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, I've had tried therapy.

Speaker 11 (14:47):
Now there's a you know, even as we're getting ready
of our kid, me and my girls have been doing
even a couple of therapy, which has been so wonderful
and making sure we're coming in and having this child
and the most healed, safest environment possible. But I think
name of the album that was kind of to have
that conversation and with myself to get myself to go.
I think there's just like been in generations past, and

(15:08):
even still there's this like connotation on therapy that we
were like, we're not allowed to go to that, or
we're not allowed to share our feelings or emotions. Yeah,
you know, and I just it's been life changing for me.
And I did have even this in my brain that
I was like, I'm not crazy. I don't need that,
you know. I had this for so long that I
was like, I know myself. I don't need nobody to
tell me what's wrong.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
With me, you know.

Speaker 11 (15:28):
And I feel like once I got it to it,
it was so much different than I thought it would
be too. And I feel like there was something beautiful
about having that first album and not trying it and
being in a place of turmoil on heartbreak with somebody
that was made me feel like my feelings were invalid
or not allowed to have and having this part two
coming out and being this thing of I've tried therapy,
I'm back in love, I'm having a child. I got

(15:50):
some level of success in this, and you know, on
the back of heartbreak, it does get better on the
other side.

Speaker 15 (15:54):
You know, Teddy Swims is here, Charlamagne.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Can we talk about some of the music on this
new album?

Speaker 6 (15:59):
Sure?

Speaker 14 (15:59):
I Love Not Your Man is a very vulnerable record
thank you. Have you ever really felt like you gave
everything to a woman and it wasn't enough?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (16:06):
Hell yeah, man, I think it was important to start
this one out like that because I was. I'd have
wrote this forever I was. I was in a place
with somebody where my you know, it's hard. I don't
want to talk about her in a way that because
I now, as I've grown and healed and moved on,
it's I I thank her for for what we went through,
you know, and I'm grateful for that time and space

(16:27):
that we had together. I was at the place here
where I felt like I was given everything and my
feelings in my I was was not validated, or it
was not enough, or I was crazy to feeling this way,
or I was abusive situation.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't don't I don't want to. I don't want
to say it. While both man. Physically she was, she
was just not good. She was not a good person,
and I've won the best for her.

Speaker 11 (16:47):
But yeah, it was a very tough thing to try
to try to heal somebody, try to make space for
someone to heal, try to give somebody everything. You would
think you would think if you.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Had a if you had a passion.

Speaker 11 (16:57):
I'll just make it like this, you had a passion
in your life, and you had somebody in your life
that says you could quit your job and just focus
on your passion.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I'll take care of the rest.

Speaker 11 (17:04):
You got it, and you don't do anything with your life,
but you just eat Zaggs all day and lay around
and blame somebody for your shortcomings when you have the
opportunity to follow your dream and somebody that would support
you with your dreams, and you'd be like so surprised
to see if somebody had the opportunity to follow their
dreams and they had everything taken care of. How many
people would be like, if everything's taken care of, I'm

(17:25):
going to do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
And you can't.

Speaker 11 (17:26):
You can't put ambition and drive into somebody.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
You can't heal.

Speaker 11 (17:30):
Nobody, you can't save nobody. And I've started to go
on that tangent.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
But from that situation, do you feel like you no
longer inable because it's like, though you want to.

Speaker 18 (17:38):
Do something out of love to better somebody, sometimes it's
to their own detriment.

Speaker 11 (17:43):
Yeah, I think I think, yeah, I think it's it
was an enabling at the end of the day. You know,
I was doing something to help someone become but I
think at the end of the day, I was enabling
somebody to do nothing, and if that was inside of them,
I was enabling that.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
And I think it's a common pattern, you know.

Speaker 11 (17:57):
But yes, I'm trying to heal and learn to see
somebody for who they are and not who I want
them to be or think they should be.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I can tell you got a big heart, but people
will take advantage of hell.

Speaker 11 (18:06):
Yeah, and I'm also grateful to be I don't want
to say I'm grateful be taking manage that.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I'm grateful to be available.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Everybody's gonna use you, but don't let people miss use
a man.

Speaker 16 (18:17):
Yeah, I have a last question for you.

Speaker 18 (18:19):
I was reading this interview you talked about because your
girlfriend's black, and you talked about like when you guys
are in the South, you get like looks from people
and like it bothers you because love should be loved.
But you're about to bring a baby into the world.
You're so positive, she seems so amazing, but the world
is not always like that. Like, how do you defeat
that because you're really a really nice person, Like it
breaks my heart.

Speaker 11 (18:38):
I mean, you know, I hate how much she's go through.
So her dad's black and her mom's white. So she
tells me about stuff all the time, about like, you know,
how she felt not wide enough or not blacking up,
and how much her world in her life has been
such a I guess, like a juxtaposition in both sides,
you know, never feeling like she wasn't quite accepted by
either side, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
And so there is not a story.

Speaker 11 (19:00):
I won't I won't tell you her story because she's
better saying it than I. Well, I'll never tell you
her story. But I see how like how beautiful she is,
and how I guess how like elegant she navigates being
who she is. She's the most incredible human being I've
ever met, man to talk to.

Speaker 14 (19:17):
I love that Johnson and White, the Song of Money Loan. Yes, sir,
that title is a little on the those, don't you think, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (19:35):
I think I think that the point of it was
kind of to the core of love in itself is
black and white, Like it's a it's a black and
white issue.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Love is love and not love is not love and loving.

Speaker 11 (19:48):
Whether it's a person of a different color, shape, size, sexuality,
same sex, whatever it is. I think that the thing
was trying to say that we no matter what, we
could come from different worlds. It's it's a true I
guess wrote me on and Juliette story. You know kind
of is the basis of it is that like you know,
we we come from different places, we come from different cultures,

(20:08):
we have different things. But when you're in love, man,
love is love and and that should be enough. And
that's really they ain't nothing great about that, man, That's
just love.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know, love is love.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
You know, I love that record and it's a good
stamp because you know, money Long recently went viral for
saying she's not writing soulful songs for white artists.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Did you see that?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I did not? Oh I'm glad I got that one
before she said exactly when did she do that song?

Speaker 7 (20:33):
Was that long?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Did you do that a while ago? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (20:35):
We did it.

Speaker 11 (20:36):
It's had to be a few months ago now. But
diffriend Jeff Kitty and Mickey Echo is a part of
it with us too, and we we like started working
on it. And I remember Jeff Kitty as has been
working with Money for long years and years and he's like, man,
should we see if Morney wants to do this song
with us? And I was like, I mean, yeah, that's
like that. We'd kind of like to do a record

(20:57):
like this. We would kind of need that, you know.
I would be so stoked that she'd be willing to
because I knew what I kind of wanted to say.
But also I can't say that, you know, without having
money helped me say that, you know, but also without
like relying too much, you know, I think I needed
to We needed to say that together. And so I'm
just grateful she took that opportunity to say, I see

(21:18):
what you're trying to say. I have you say that,
you know, and and said it with me, And I
think I'm so grateful for her because money is just allegend.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Man, what a bad bad ass man.

Speaker 13 (21:27):
Now, you also said you wanted to meet one of
your musical idols, were Stevie Wonder?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, you ever get an opportunity?

Speaker 11 (21:32):
Yeah, you know, we haven't met in person, but yeah, yeah,
and I got I got a chance to do a
record with him too. So uh, I think he's gonna
put out on his next record, I hope. So, I
hope it's gonna come out. I'm really excited. It's it's
a good record. It's called Politics Player and uh yeah,
which is such an honor to be on our Steve
Wonder record. But yeah, he did FaceTime. I'll tell you that.

(21:55):
It's so funny. Man, he FaceTime.

Speaker 8 (21:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (21:58):
And here's the thing thing. He is actually blind, y'all.
This is true life.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
He was blind.

Speaker 11 (22:04):
I'm saying people say it. People, there's a conspiracy that
he's not.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Look.

Speaker 11 (22:11):
Look, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I was on
the phone with this. I was facetiming this man and
he said, he turned this. He had put the camera around.
He said, this is my son over here, and then
he said I'm over here today. He's pulled it up
here and he said, and this is my niece. And
then he had he had phone facing her. And for
the next ten minutes of the conversation, I'll look as.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Far as you are. I looked at his niece and
knock and he was holding he was holding the camera
like he was holding like I not all. See I
did not have to hold it.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
She was she was sitting there.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
She was sitting there text on her phone.

Speaker 11 (22:49):
I didn't have the hard to say, hey, I can't
see you, but you know, my dumb ass man, my
numb that's the reason he called me because.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I was in Tokyo.

Speaker 11 (22:57):
I was in Tokyo and I had found I had
found my favorite album, all time, best album ever, Songs
in the Key Live.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I found a CD of it.

Speaker 11 (23:05):
It was a Tokyo version of it, like the Japanese
version of it, and my dumb ass taxing him a
picture of it.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
My goodness, I get.

Speaker 11 (23:13):
Idiot like he was gonna see it right right, Like
I just chech that's what I found, Bro, I found, Bro,
what are you saying? His FaceTime? So I was like,
my dumb ass too, was like you give a touch.
He's definitely he didn't see it, Bro, I don't think.
I just just to put all those things to rest.

Speaker 15 (23:32):
And shut down.

Speaker 16 (23:34):
It's crazy.

Speaker 18 (23:35):
All these years black people have been trying to figure
this out and you are the one that.

Speaker 16 (23:38):
Solved the problem.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
I just I just know.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I was looking at his knees about fifteen minutes. Again.

Speaker 15 (23:44):
Well there you have it, Swim. You appreciate you for
joining us. It's the breakfast Club.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Good morning, It's topic time.

Speaker 13 (23:55):
Eight hundred and five eight five one five one to
join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Mourning.

Speaker 13 (24:01):
Everybody is thej Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
We are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 13 (24:06):
If you just joining us, we open up the phone
lines eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one.
We're talking about older men dating these younger women. And
when I say younger women, I'm talking about teens or
low late or early twenties.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I show no, no, no, no.

Speaker 14 (24:20):
When I'm talking about younger women, I'm talking about these
guys that are thirty years these people seniors.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 14 (24:26):
Like, I think, when you're fifty some years old and
you're dating a twenty year old, that's ridiculous to me.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
And I mean, I'm consistent.

Speaker 13 (24:34):
I'm talking about teenagers eighteen, nineteen, early twenties. Somebody could
be thirty two dating a sixty year old And are
you cool with that? What a thirty five year old
dating a sixty five.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Year old man?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
A sixty year old man?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, I think that's even more because this man sixty
plus years old old, but he said thirty thirty at least,
like yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Growing up and that's going to say so it's not
the difference we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
You're looking at her a little crazy, like, damn, what
you want with that old ass man? He must be rich.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Right, Well, let's let's ask Jess. Jess, you said you
dated a forty year old man.

Speaker 15 (25:08):
You were at age I was twenty three.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Why yeah? Money? Yeah, he did.

Speaker 9 (25:16):
Make about the line.

Speaker 19 (25:20):
I was really about to say, yeah, he had money,
and I always had like a little old solo or whatever,
you know what I mean. And I met him at
the car dealership and no, ain't buy me no car,
but he helped me with the down period.

Speaker 12 (25:35):
That's why.

Speaker 19 (25:37):
He helped me with the down pay much. And I
think the down pay I was getting like a little Honda.
It might have been like five thousand or something. But
I act like I ain't have it all, and he
was like, you know, you know, and how give you?
He gave me like three thousand dollars.

Speaker 10 (25:51):
Yeah, for like six or seven months. It really wasn't long.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
But I broke it off.

Speaker 19 (25:58):
Not even I broke it off because you you get
and like relationships with older guys as a young woman,
because you think, oh this is gonna help me grow up,
or I'm doing something that ain't nobody else doing I'm
in you know, and he's very childish.

Speaker 10 (26:11):
She was childish.

Speaker 19 (26:12):
You you automatically just think because you did an older
guy that they're gonna have it all together.

Speaker 10 (26:15):
They're wise, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
They they can teach you.

Speaker 13 (26:18):
Things, try to do those things when you're like, nah,
I know what I'm doing and do this. So he
try to be like, treat you like a child or no.

Speaker 19 (26:24):
Yeah, until he realized that he couldn't do that, and
then that made him. That made me even more attractive
to him, Like he liked that. It's okay, so you're
not a young dummy.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
You smart.

Speaker 19 (26:33):
Now let me show you how dumb I am. It
was just weird, Like I was like, oh no, I
gotta no, I can't. Like he was very childish and stuff.
He didn't know how to have sex, he didn't know how.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
To ghat the box.

Speaker 10 (26:42):
I was like, oh my god, you're too old and
I know these things. And I started dating back in
my age.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Break probably gonna taste the way they used to.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
The ones from my area taste a whole lot different, right.

Speaker 14 (26:55):
I'm gonna be I just think it's corny. There's no
way you should be dating a woman who was in
somebody's womb when you was thirty.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, okay, imagine imagine being thirty years old, Yeah, standing
over a crib with your out like that.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
That just looks crazy. That that sounds that's yeah, how
you should look at it? How you fifty?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
If you fifty plus years old dating a twenty year old,
that makes no sense to me.

Speaker 14 (27:16):
I don't know why men have not grown out of that.
I love discipline, I love stability, I love having a family.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
When you if you.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Fifty plus years old, you should be kicked up. You
have your feet kicked up at home. You got your
wife over here, you got your kids over here. Why
are you chasing these other I.

Speaker 10 (27:29):
Disagree with that standing over the crib, which sound like that?
Now listen.

Speaker 19 (27:32):
The only reason why, the only way I would think
about it like that is if way around the way,
and you've seen this girl grow up and you waited
for her to get a.

Speaker 10 (27:39):
Certain age like nineteen eighteen something like that to date.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Her, then I get that notion of it.

Speaker 19 (27:44):
But to these if you're just an older man and
you see a younger woman, younger looking woman, you know whatever,
it's like, all right, they are attracted to young women,
you know, but that's different. I'm not about to think
about it as I'm standing over a damn crib with
my watch this little girl grow.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I will not jump, I.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
Won't say this.

Speaker 13 (28:02):
Everybody's not made for marriage, right. He was married and
didn't enjoy it, so he wants to be a bachelor.
And I'm not mad at that. But I look at
it a little different, Charlamage. You got four daughters. I
got four daughters. I don't want my twenty one, nineteen
twenty two to twenty three year old daughter dating a
fifty four year old man. There's there's nothing in common.
The only thing I feel like you dating that young

(28:22):
is because you want to control. That's that's what that's
my mentality. But there's nothing, you know, I don't see
nothing wrong with it. If he want to be a bachelor,
he could be a basket. Maybe he's just not made.

Speaker 19 (28:30):
Somebody your age, go get you a nice forty something
and exactly what you said you want to control, because
that guy at that dealership gave me three thousand dollars
because he just knew she greened now going to control her,
and did not.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
He didn't know. He's dealing with Jesse Baltrom.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Go find somebody that can help you regulate your cholesterol.
Go find somebody that they dealing with their blood pressure. Really,
go find somebody that can recognize the signs.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Of I gotta go get a colic colons. But you
don't know what that is those?

Speaker 6 (28:56):
You know what I mean? Who is?

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Who is Calvin? Who's hello?

Speaker 6 (29:01):
Who's this?

Speaker 8 (29:02):
Hey? This is key?

Speaker 20 (29:03):
How y'all doing?

Speaker 6 (29:04):
I'm good?

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Key?

Speaker 6 (29:05):
How old are you?

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Key?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Hold on it, says key, was seventeen dating a forty
year old man.

Speaker 20 (29:09):
Come on, it was forty something, a little bit older
than forty.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
And y'all got married. Break that down.

Speaker 20 (29:15):
Yeah, we end up getting married. We had three beautiful
children together. We are no longer together.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Because he dead.

Speaker 10 (29:21):
Oh my god, is he dead?

Speaker 20 (29:23):
No, he's still he's almost sixty one, still dating younger women.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
What state of y'all in that that was legal?

Speaker 11 (29:31):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
What state of y'all in that that was legal?

Speaker 20 (29:33):
It wasn't Virginia.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
But you said y'all got married when they got married,
probably when she get married.

Speaker 20 (29:38):
Until I was like twenty. Oh, dug right, So long
story short, it was.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
It was very hard.

Speaker 20 (29:45):
My twenty my early twenties twenties was very hard, very displessing.
He was very controlling, was always gone out doing what
he wanted to do while was at home taking care
of our kids.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
It was it was really hard.

Speaker 20 (30:02):
It was something that I would not recommend any young
woman ever.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Was he very controlling?

Speaker 7 (30:09):
He was.

Speaker 20 (30:11):
It was a domestic balance situation. I definitely finally got
the courage to leave because I didn't want my children
to keep on, you know, seeing that I don't didn't
want them to think that that's normal. And then in
fact that our oldest son, he's sixteen, now I had
to put him in therapy because you know, it just
it was just horrible.

Speaker 9 (30:33):
Yeah, yeah, thank god that.

Speaker 20 (30:37):
I had to pray my way out of that situation
because I was really in.

Speaker 8 (30:40):
Love with him.

Speaker 15 (30:41):
Where was your father at at this time? Was your
dad around?

Speaker 8 (30:44):
So yeah, let me let me.

Speaker 20 (30:45):
Protect my parents. My parents are both retired army and
they were both overseas fighting the war and Iraq. So
I was in vi Jinga with my with my grandmother.
I was at work when I met him, so it's
not like my grandma just let me do it ever work,
you know, he took that opportunity to you know. Yeah,

(31:06):
and he used to come pick me up from hool
and everything like Jesus high school, you know, signed out.

Speaker 10 (31:14):
So yeah, definitely old enough to sign your out.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
That's wow.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Crazy.

Speaker 19 (31:20):
But but thank you for sharing your story that you're
still hear and that you are out of that situation.

Speaker 8 (31:26):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 20 (31:27):
I didn't want my kids to think.

Speaker 15 (31:28):
That I was normal, So yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Key.

Speaker 20 (31:31):
And he's a horrible father, so.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
That means he a horrible grandfather too.

Speaker 20 (31:37):
Yeah, he is people, all right.

Speaker 14 (31:40):
The moral of the story is, I know y'all like
to be out here bragging about smashing these young girls,
but that's not a flex to me. You know what
I'm saying, You fifty four years old, in your fifties,
you should be later with your wife and kids, or
at least be with women that's close to your age.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Like that's that's me, yeah, you know, and I'm consistent
with that.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I said that when Diddy was out here with young
Miami and you told LEONARDA, I don't know what y'all
seeing these young girls.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I need somebody that can know at least all at
least six members of.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Wu Tang six. It's a six of them. Yoh godess
I never told you this story about how years ago.

Speaker 14 (32:11):
I'm not gonna say his name, but there was a
record rep and he was talking to me about how man.
I tried to talk to one of these young girls
and she was real smart, and I said to her,
you a regular doogie Houses?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
And she was like, who is doogie houses? Just don't
know exactly? You know who don't know? No, okay, exactly see.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Regular doogie houses?

Speaker 10 (32:29):
And now tell me what's the dog house.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Doogie House was a hit sitcom back in the day
that Neil Patrick Harris.

Speaker 16 (32:34):
My grandma said, I know, Neil Patrick, you got the.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Ladist coming on you. See what I'm saying.

Speaker 13 (32:41):
I would tell everybody outter that thinking about it, Just
imagine when you have daughters. Would you want your daughters
to date a fifty four year old man at the.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Age of nine.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Imagine being thirty button neckad standing over somebody's crib.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
That's what you should be thinking about when you.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Were here ready to holler these twenty some year old
girls when you fifty plus cut it out.

Speaker 13 (32:57):
If you just joined us this context, this context, Yeah,
it's the breakfast club in the morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
One of everybody is team was just hilarious, charlamage to God.
We are the breakfast Club. La La Rosa is here
with us, and we got some special guests in the
boland this morning.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
The host of the new show Friday Night Vibes on
TV as the new host Friday Night Vibes on TVs.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Dina Parker Kevin on.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
I walked that up because you know, keV didn't talk
about that last time he was here. And I saw
Nina in Chance and Nina was like. Nina was like,
I don't know why he was up there and did
not mention that we're in a new home.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Friday Night may be having tunelevision, so you got all
these other projects he was. I watched the interview and
I was so excited, like, I can't wait till he
mentions Friday Night VIX because we were in the middle
of filming Friday Night Vibes.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Man Friday Night Friday Night Vibes, and I had just.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Did Taron Hall. I was like, Keith, I mentioned you
and shouted you out. They showed your picture on the back.
I'm being ghastling, I said at first, So it means
it's true, baby, that's just who you are.

Speaker 13 (34:05):
Because you know one of your best friends was up
here right like just right here, and when we told
him that you were coming, he was like, he didn't
even tell me he was here in New York.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
He was like, we were playing pool and friendship.

Speaker 10 (34:20):
We saw Tony just in the grind.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
I was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Tony didn't tell me he was doing the breakfast club.
But men don't share details like that, Like if it
would have been me and my homegirl, we would have
been like at the hotel having breakfast before we came over.
I feel like, y'all just see each other when you
see Tony had a show in New York. I didn't
know that I got tickets to a show, surprising. I
was gonna pull up right ticket because always buy.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
I don't even play that. I'm not trying to hear it.
Don't hear me because people you ain't even cool, Like
what's up on the tickets? Kevo stays dot com. It's
what I'm telling them. My parents buy tickets to my show, and.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I want to support, but then they want you to
give up the ticket. Yeah, that ain't support parents. Buy
tickets to your parents.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Refuse to get free tickets. They're like, I believe in
you and what you're doing. I'll go get tickets.

Speaker 18 (35:08):
They won't make sure they got loan you no money
ever again.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
No, well, yes, you keep doing good. You know what
I'm saying. I need you to make it.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
You know they're not just testing you just to see
if you're gonna say no, no, no, y'all have done enough.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I got you.

Speaker 12 (35:22):
No, they buy them, they support for the next show.
My friends, I don't mind these people.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
We ain't got a relationship. You're trying to get the
free tickets, Manna, Okay, it's like a hookup. When I
work in Popeye's, I give my friends a hook up.
Not everybody, some of the biscuits.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
If you see the price, that's true.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
How did this come together?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
You know what's crazy? We actually chem tested together. Kevin
and I knew each other only on social media, like
I was a fan of his work and we had
never met, so we would, you know, exchange on social media.
And then you know the show used to be hosted
by Tiffany Hattis and do y'all cold. They were revamping
it and so they did like a big casting call
so when we got called and sometimes when you get

(36:06):
to a certain level, you're like, oh, I still got
a kip test. Yeah, I was like, So we did
the kym test and it was it was actually like
a family reunion. It was about twenty about what befteen women,
fifteen men. Yeah, and we were kim testing with our friends.
So it was like a big day. We got in trouble.
It took all day long.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, it was like you you spend five minutes with
this person and okay, y'all done and this person and
when Nina and I went, it was like this sounds cliche,
but I was like, I forgot we were even auditioning.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
We were just chopping it up and they stopped us.
We were like, okay, cool. I was like this, we
got this. Like there's sometimes I feel like you get
that little voice you know when you're when you're in
this industry, you just know when something that is magic.
And we were sitting next to each other and it
was so easy with him. And I've had a lot
of co hosts over the years, and keV is by
far like the easiest person I've ever worked with.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Oh that's an ultimate compliment.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
By the way, it's not just to him as to
his wife Melissa, right, because his wife is he knows
how to there is a there's a dance, as you
guys know. And then when you have like a co
host who knows how to communicate in a healthy way
with a woman, it's just like even like he'll be
like do you need to sit? I'm like what because
I'm used to people being like get off the way,

(37:21):
and it's just he's very kind. So it just makes
it so easy to work with. Nina.

Speaker 14 (37:25):
Go ahead, I tell you that all the time. When
somebody says you're easy to work with, that's beautiful. When
somebody says you're a pleasure to work with, you always work.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, because it's so long. The work is hard.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
So talent is evenly distributed, you know in La New York,
but good people to work with is not so much.
And then it's already stressedful you got early call times
and all that stuff. If you're also a jerk on
top of that, it's like, bro, I don't even want
to do it.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
It's life be lifing, as you know, so it's like
it's hard to get on and have to like turn
all of that off. You know in filming. So when
you have somebody that's like keV is really like my
real life brother, you know, I really love him. I
love his wife like, we have dinners like and so
it's just it doesn't it truly doesn't feel like work.
So we just be cutting up, and you know, this
show really allowed me to be funny and like really

(38:09):
tap into cause I feel like I've done so much
formal journalism. This was like a different This was more vulnerable,
and keV is more of my coach sometimes where he's
like just say it, like, you know, cause I'm so
trained that sometimes it's a little bit more stiff, so
he's like, just say it. They ain't gonna care.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, and we need to helped me too, because I
had never done official TV, never worked off a prompt before.
So the first day I was like, dang man, like
there's a lot of pressure and you can't really mess up.
It's time for you to do your job right. And
he was like, oh, it's all good. There's how you
doing us run through it once and Nina, man, let
me tell you what she big sis for real, because
when I don't want to do stuff, she'd.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Be like, ah, we ain't doing that, y'all. We are
doing this.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Like you can tell she's been in the game for
a long time, never rude or anything like that, but
she she knows how to assert herself and people respect
her for that.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
And I'm more of like, I never done this, so
whatever y'all say is cool. But also when you've done
it a long time, you know when people are patty time,
like you're like, we don't need we got this. We
can just roll through this, like y'all ain't got a
babys Like, we're gonna come in, we gonna knock this out,
and we're gonna go home. Everybody gonna get home on time, y'all,
hill over time stop.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Is hard for you, keV being on a production that
you don't control, no low key, Actually it's free because someone,
oh my god, there's a certain amount of stress when
you control it, Like the talent is just one aspect.
Then you got to worry about the budget and the controlling,
the editing, the delivery day. That vibes brother, When it's
over all right, y'all, and it's it is, it is

(39:33):
a welcome reprieve from having a duel. I don't want
to have to worry about post edit deliveries, time code
you know, s and p leave it at the door coffee? Yes,
what time is lunch?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Okay? Perfect, see you all tomorrow. Just come on time.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
Do my job.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Chopping up with Nina, I knew we was cool. Need
to let me her she was getting braided down, like
y'all real friends, man, you let me see the the breakdown.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
No, That's why I think that camaraderie and chemistry from
the audition through the show, it just carries on throughout.
And then that's why the show feels so natural. Our
guests come on, they feel really natural with us, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
So, and it doubled the ratings. So we did the
first season, we only had like twelve episodes, so it
was just the first Friday of every month, which right now,
you know, TV is very difficult. They actually doubled our
episode order because they were saying that our interviews with
each other and with our guests were spiking over the movies. Yeah,
so I mean listening to get a double order during
this time, we feel very blessed.

Speaker 13 (40:37):
Were still picking it with Nina, Parker and keV on
stage the new show Friday Night vibes is on TVs Lauren.

Speaker 18 (40:43):
I was going to ask you, Nina, because for us
in the journalism where you talk about brooking and hard journalism,
I know you come from TMZ. Your career and how
you've been able to diversify your resume. We all watch
it like how because it is hard when you're such
a journalist and do things where they allow you to
show your personality. What was your first lesson in like
I even want to try to diversify.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Well, my first lesson was I got fired and you know,
as you know, it's like you got fired from well,
I got fired my first week from TMZ. I didn't
know it.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
So my first.

Speaker 16 (41:15):
I'm gonna let her talk her story.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
So the first time I got fired was my first
week in TMZ. I just moved to la and I
was not even a PA yet. I was a runner.
I didn't know anybody in l A. I literally got
the job by emailing contacts they used to have like
a contact TMZ, and I just emailed and was like,
I got a degree, can I like you know? And
they were like, you've been out the game for a
little bit, because I had stopped working in journalism and

(41:40):
so they were like, we'll make you a runner. You
can get the lunches. But this was before GPS, so
I had like a Thomas Guide.

Speaker 15 (41:46):
Oh wow, yeah, that's age of myself.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
But I was I got lost. La is very difficult
to navigate. You like, why is it too sa? So
I got lost, So Paris Hilton got arrested, and I
had to go get the tape from the paparazzi of
her coming out of CNN for her first interview with
Larry King.

Speaker 16 (42:04):
Oh my heart just dropped for you. Yeah, got lost
with that tape.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
And I got lost, and if you know, CNN was
on sunset and I took Highland to get back to
the valley, and Harvey was like, why would you take
Hiland and not Kawanga? What's wrong with you? Your fire
in front of everybody? Choice, do you understand how that's
very different? And you know, like this is before you

(42:30):
could transfer digitally. You had to have the tape, so
I cost them like fifteen twenty minutes and they wanted
it up first. So he fired me in front of
the whole newsroom and I went to the bathroom. I
had only been in La like three months. I went
to the bathroom and I was crying, like Ego kicked in.
It was like at this place, go somewhere else. You
don't need this place. And there was this really quiet
voice with that was like, just go apologize. And I

(42:53):
went to my managing editor and Harvey was in his office.
I went to the managing editor and I had been
staying late every day and I would just ask her
she needed anything, so if she needed her trash taken out, whatever,
I would just stay late for hours, just helping her
and not getting paid. And I said, hey, you know,
I'm really sorry if I can work with you, and
if you she was like, what are you talking about?
And I said, Harvey just fired me. And she goes
crossing down everywhere, and she went in his office and

(43:14):
yelled at him, and he heard him say will you
take her? And she came back out and offered me
a year contract and was like, do you want to
be my writing pa?

Speaker 6 (43:21):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
And then that was in June of two thousand and seven.
The show started in September of two thousand and seven,
and by then he had heard me just talking. I
would do my stories and talk out loud, and he
thought I was funny, and he was like, I want
you to pitch for the show, and I was like, no,
I just want to write. He was like, I'm not
asking you. You're gonna get on the show. And that's
really how it started. That was the first time I

(43:44):
got fired, and I was just like, I'm gonna just
go for it. And I just was like, I'm not
going to allow like one person to have the keys
to like drive my car. Like I got to have
these options open, and I have to like eat my
ego a little bit. And I think our ego gets
us in a lot of trouble in this industry. There's
a lot of misunderst standings that happened that you you
take it the wrong way. And I just learned to
like drop that and it's helped me. Well what got

(44:06):
you fired?

Speaker 6 (44:06):
For real?

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I didn't. I was fired from CBS. Okay, they didn't
renew my contract, so the well you're just kind of fired,
you know, You're like it's like we don't we're not
having you back. I had like a two year contract
and I had it was the most money I had
ever made. Because now I'm an official course spind and
I'm doing red carpets and I made all this money
and I blew it. I was buying bags. I remember
I went on my first check and bought a Gucci

(44:28):
and Louis vuita bag, both just both. Because I have
been I was making four fifty a week at TMZ
who before taxes, so I wasn't making any money. So
when I was getting the CBS money, I lost my
damn mind. And I had no I had bad credit,
I had no financial literacy all you had to be.

(44:51):
And so when I lost the job, I was broke
because I had I was, you know, even though I
had money, I was spending every check. I was you know,
I was at at the brunches, spending money like a
drug dealer. I was just like, come on, let's let's
get the bottles, you know, and just ridiculous. And what
I realized was, I thought to myself, I had to

(45:11):
downsize everything. I got a car accident, I lost my car,
so I had to get a used car with the
red light always on. And I had to get into
a smaller apartment that was like a little bit more,
you know, in a bad neighborhood. And I told myself,
I was like, when I get my next thing, because
I knew it was gonna come. I educated myself on
how to get good credit. I fixed my credit, I

(45:32):
figured out what I needed to save. I was like,
I need multiple income. I was talking to Kevin Fraser
who was at CBS, and he was kind of telling me, like,
you acting crazy, you know. I talked called him my
toxic mentor because he would give me advice, but it
was always like really harsh. And I was like, the
next time, I get it, and I got love and
hip hop reunions and I just started saving everything. I
started living under my means. So I was like, let

(45:52):
me build this so that, like I can have two
years of income so that the next time, I'm not
gonna let this network decide like whether I eat or not.

Speaker 16 (46:01):
Do you when you left? To go back a little bit,
when you left TMZ, were you seeing your news producer?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Where were you when I left TMC, I did not
have a job. I quit because they did not want
to pay me.

Speaker 16 (46:12):
Okay, because there's always been a conversation. I don't know.

Speaker 18 (46:15):
I was told this before I went there, so not
even just internally, but just in the journalism world, that
you had been offered news director or something like that.
But they didn't want to, Like they didn't you thought
you should have news director, but they didn't want to
give it to you.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
It was a news director. But what actually happened, I've
never told anybody this. I accidentally got my coworker's check
and we were sitting next to you, you know, TMZ
would have the desks where there was a divider, and
they said his check next to me, and I was
just opening it blindly. And he was making six figures.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I was not.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I was making well under that. And I had been
there and I was contributing. I was breaking stories. I
was a part of Michael Jackson's death being broken. I
was a part of major store is Bernie mac dyan.
I was the managing editor on weekends, so it was
just me and in that office in a PA. I
was in there working. I only had Wednesdays off. I
gave up my weekends for three years, and I was like,

(47:07):
I put in the work.

Speaker 7 (47:08):
I was.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
It was my life. I didn't have a boyfriend, I
didn't have friends. I wasn't going to the club, and
I felt like I was old.

Speaker 6 (47:15):
This money.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
I think I was maybe making like fifty k Jesus
and I just wanted what he was making. He was
a white male, yes he was, and they were like no,
And I was on every show and I was just like,
y'all not gonna pay me. And we went into a
little negotiation and I think maybe they offered me like
ten more percent. I did not have another job. I

(47:37):
did not have an agent, and I was like, I quit.
I didn't have nothing, but I knew people liked me.
And I reached out to a woman who used to
be at Telepictures and she had just got an SBP
job at CBS, and I was like. She was like, hey,
we have the Insider once you come test for the Insider,
and so I went tested for that and I got
the Insider. But I didn't have anything when I left TMC,

(47:58):
I didn't know what I was going to do. The
good thing about being young is because I was still
in my twenties at the time, you little crazy, So
you know, had I been this age, I might have
been like, let me just figure something out. But now,
you know, cause I got bills and big bills. But
back then I was like, it ain't nothing for me
to pack up the studio apartment, get on that couch.
That was like you ain't trap me, and they was

(48:20):
the best decision I could have made. I mean I
left really at the Pinnacle. Vantage just started like it
was really a good time to be there, and everybody
told me not to quit. Everybody like socially TMC was
really hot and like, cause this is the Paris Hilton
Britney Spears era, so people were like, you're crazy to leave.
But I was just like, this is not serving me.
And they not only that, Like this was before paid

(48:41):
disparity was really a thing, so it was just accepted
that the women take less. And I was like, I
work harder than all these people up in here, and
I'm a black woman. And I mean when you guys
started the Breakfast Club, that's how we met. We were
started emailing, like dude, was like I got this new show.
I was like, we're gonna put you on the show.
And I've made a lot of contacts because I would
reach out to black media and be like it on
our bloc row, let me send you the break of news.

(49:02):
Like I really cultivated. I still have all those relationships
because I really was like I can't prevent them from
putting this story out about black people, but I can
at least give our side and if you call me,
I'm gonna give your side out there because they didn't care.
They would just put it up. And so that was
really for me, like my time.

Speaker 13 (49:19):
So I was like, you're not gonna pay me, but
still kicking it with Nina Parker and keV on stage.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
The new show Friday Night Vibes is on TBS. Was
it toxic working there?

Speaker 16 (49:28):
Indeed?

Speaker 2 (49:29):
What I mean, listen this is I've heard. It's not
like that anymore. I don't know, And this is one
of the reasons you and I haven't talked because I
checked out of all things TMZ. I never watched the
show again. When I stopped like, I didn't, I stopped community.
I didn't even I'm not commun here with people I knew,
but anything like I just kind of shut that part
of my braain off because I had a lot of

(49:50):
PTSD and it was you have to think about it.
This was like the birth of New age media. There
were no rules, so we would work like fourteen hours
a day. You would get in trouble for taking a lunch.
You couldn't leave like your desk. You had to answer
your phone at four in the morning. It was you
would work weekends and you couldn't say no. We would rock.

(50:11):
People would walk around with their laptop. We would go
to a concert. You have to have the laptop in
your back because if you got a call it for
you didn't answer, you would get fired for it was
over for you. So and I made the decision to
participate in that because I didn't have anybody, I didn't
have anything else. I didn't have a team. We were
kind of deterred from getting a team, like you know.
So the things I know now this is this is

(50:35):
there was no HR no H.

Speaker 16 (50:39):
Was very new, and there there was the union. Things
that come in when you have in your protection they
got rid of.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
That didn't exist back then. Like they had Telepictures that
was the parent company that technically you could go, but
you didn't know anybody there because they weren't You only
knew who was in the building. So it was it
was really the wild West. And I probably I mean
when Michael Jackson died, I didn't leave the office for
three days, like we slept there and.

Speaker 15 (51:03):
That was your salary of fifty thousand dollars or less.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
What I mean, I think I was still making like
the PA salary thing, which was I think I had
got boosted like six fifty a week. Crazy thing is
when Lauren started working here.

Speaker 13 (51:13):
You ever see that dog that they and I'm not
comparing you to a dog, that dog that when you
get out the shelter right and you put your.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Hand up to pettit.

Speaker 13 (51:20):
And that's how Lauren was. Lauren was like, wait a minute,
you guys just said the good job like it was.
I'm like what I thought she was joking? Then I
realized no, she was traumatized.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
How long were you there?

Speaker 18 (51:35):
How was that TMC for eight years? And when you
come in you hear well from the black people there,
you hear so much about you. Van was always really
big about, you know, talking to me about you. He
was there when I was. When I was there, so
was Raquel. And then they left, and when they left
it was me and I was like, what.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
At least you had the camaraderie.

Speaker 18 (51:52):
But then they left, right and then George Floyd and
i'm o Avrey happened and it was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
And you're fighting by yourself Because there's a lot of microaggression,
there's macro too, and one of the things that was
hard for me was like at the time, and this
was before Van even got there. I was the only
black person on camera. And so you are yes, yes,
the stories you tell me yourself, and you feel an obligation,
but sometimes you're tired. Right, But the thing is with

(52:20):
black talent, especially, you don't have the luxury of being
silent when it's a black issue, because they're gonna look
at you in this room full of white people and
wonder why you didn't say anything. They're not gonna think
about Like I've been doing this every single day. I
got a migraine. I'm tired, Like I'm tired of arguing.
I know, their race baiting me. They bait you on purpose.
But at the same time, I'm like, I got to
think about the people who are watching that look like me,

(52:41):
that are like me, and why didn't you speak up?
But you know, you know, as you age, fighting every
day gets exhausting. And also when you get in baited
because it's like, I don't mind having a healthy discussion,
but you're purposely trying to bait me to have this
conversation so you can have content, and I'm not really
with that, And so you get tired of being used.
You get tired of like when men being talked about,
you know, you feel like I'm in this space. When

(53:03):
I was there, it was very toxic, like we would
get they had a relationship with Vivid because you know
Kim Kardashians sex tape and they Vivid would send like
sex tapees in and sometimes people would just watch him
in the office, you know, and it was like you
were like what am I What's going on? But then
also you're like, well, what are my other options? And
that's when you start to build these relationships and you're like,
I got to make an exit plan.

Speaker 18 (53:25):
I had a I just want to say this real quick.
Then we can move away from tim Z because you
have moved away.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
But I met.

Speaker 18 (53:34):
About I met you a long time ago in LA
and our interaction you weren't rude, but it just wasn't
the best. And one I was about to leave, Ban
was like, you should call me, and I was like,
I don't think she cares for me that much, and
he was really and I was like, well, and I
told him, but now here in your I don't know
if you even knew who I was, But if so,
I'm thinking like maybe that I had nothing to do
with that. But I never thought about this because when

(53:56):
you're in that environment, you think it's regular, you think
it's okay, right, I never thought about like what your
post life felt like mentally having to go through and
deal with all of that.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I think that so I got to do you telling
the world that Nina no I said, why would you
do that?

Speaker 18 (54:14):
The reason I want to say that is because now
I'm sitting here and I felt your emotion just now
when you're talking about your experience, and I identify with
it so much, and it made me think about if
I were to run into someone right in that same
predicament unknowingly, I might not like, you know, do you
know what I'm trying to Well.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
You're reacting to the place, not the person, yes, And
so you you know, it's like if someone brings up
a relationship that hurts you, you're kind of like, especially
if you're not in a space to like say, you're
not thinking about it, and it jars you for a
second where you're just like And also, I'm very media trained, right,
so sometimes I don't want to speak bad on a place,

(54:51):
and I don't know if my experience would be your experience.
So there's a lot. I can't say to you without
saying it right where I can. It's like, how do
I tell this person that in the trenches and like
get out quickly? Yes, because that may not be your journey.
So how do I say that to you with because
it's so nuanced. So it's just such a layered thing.
So sometimes if like people come up and be like

(55:11):
I'm at TMZ, I'm kind of and I'm like, yeah,
I don't know what to tell you, because this is
it's only something you understand if you've been there. It's
like being in a sorority. But at the same time,
and I think I've just healed from being there probably
within the last like four years, four or five years.
You I have this thing now where I'm my friends
say I'm the fastest responder because you had to be

(55:32):
this thing, right, I always Even now I'm not really
in news anymore, like I'm a host for shows, and
even now I feel like I got to look at
these headlines, I'm like, what am I doing? I am
posting about no news. I'm the first to post a
tweet about it. Like, so you have these things so
I don't remember the the interaction, but I'll say that

(55:53):
it was so traumatizing that sometimes it was hard to
react positively about it. And also, you know, as you grow,
you learn how to temper that a little bit better.
But I think probably when we met, I hadn't really
quite learned time.

Speaker 16 (56:08):
It wasn't nothing crazy, but I just I felt your shock.
I just didn't.

Speaker 18 (56:12):
I didn't under Yeah, I didn't understand what I felt
until this moment and you were dealing with But I
didn't know because when when we hear about your journey,
then we just hear.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Well, I've never talked about this is the first time.
I think we always said things positively because ultimately it
was a positive experience because I have never learned. You
learned kind of when you're in that because it's like
the army.

Speaker 16 (56:33):
But I tell people it was the best boot camp
I've ever been.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
To, the best book camp you'll never And one thing
I will say about Harvey is he, to this day
probably the hardest work ethic of anyone I've ever known
in the industry. But you you get a lot of
trauma from it, and it's very difficult to express if
you haven't been there. And then also it's like I
don't want to make that my story. So you know,
when I'm meeting somebody and we in a social setting,
it's like it's still now. Some people say, oh, I

(56:56):
know you from TMZ, and I cringe a little bit,
not because I'm ashamed of it. I've done so much,
but it's still something that's always associated with you and
will always be, as you will know it will always be,
and there's going to be a time where you just
don't want to hear about it because you've accomplished so
much more, and so it's a little triggering when someone
comes up to you and wants to talk about it
and you're just like, so like bringing up an X
that you don't at all.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Do it anymore, because what you really wanted to say
to her probably was good luck.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Yeah, what am I supposed to say if you're in it?

Speaker 7 (57:27):
No?

Speaker 18 (57:27):
Yeah, I mean I needed the money, but I forget
what was going on at the time. But I think
this was one of the times where I been wanted
to quit and I just didn't. People think you're crazy
to say that, and I was like, oh, I could
talk to her.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
And then I wish we would have been introduced through
VAN because there I would have loved to have talked
to you one on one, like privately and just really
give you a good download, because I know that you
did reach out and DM and I never even saw
them because weren't I wasn't following you, and I didn't
even see him until I followed you, and I was like, dang,
there's DMS in here, and I didn't even see this
cry out for help. This is gonna be my last

(57:58):
thing about the PD. What I found is a lot
of people who leave only find their worth in posting
news because they that's how you were rewarded then you
were only you were. You could have been fired for
not producing enough, so you find like you're worth in
producing stuff. That's why, Like when I left, I would
be posting breaking news and I didn't even have an

(58:20):
outlet to attribute it to. And what it's what it
allowed me to do when I took a step back
was start to put more worth in like me, what
I'm saying and the other things, because I was like,
I don't even know if I really like news anymore,
Like I don't know if this is something I even
enjoy anymore, Like I enjoy talking to people, I enjoy
x y Z, like what else can I dive into?
And for you, what I would like to say is,

(58:41):
and I think you're very good at it, but you know,
and I know you have other things that you like to,
you know, get into, and I just don't want you
to get caught up in this thing of like I
have to produce to be value because it's like what
who you are that brings the value, not being first
because we're we kind of are taught to like we
got to be first, even just have.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Heard.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I'm just saying that the value is not in being
first anymore because this is what I have learned. It's
what you're going to talk about that is valuable because
you're not technically in the news place that has to
be first.

Speaker 16 (59:20):
And just sometimes you when you hear that, did you
hear that?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
A sense of urgency is what makes you special because
you care and that's important. But I think people care
just they want to know that these days everybody can
get it anywhere correct. They want your take on it.
So and you were correct and everybody else is wrong. Yeah,
I know I was.

Speaker 16 (59:46):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Friday Night Vibes on TV.

Speaker 15 (59:49):
We appreciate you guys coming up and don't be strange.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
You could come home feel like you need a girl.
I was watching too. I was like, oh my god,
this is really happening. They're gonna put this on team.

Speaker 15 (01:00:03):
But please come on, if you are in town, please
come on away.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Seven years to get Kemp. So yeah, well, y'all just
had him.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
So this was fine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I was fullying. I was in the coverage, tweeting fill
into yes, yes, I have a I have a clothing
line for plus women sizes twelve to thirty is. Yes,
it's in stores, is at Macy's. It's doing very well,
and so this is one of the designs. So yeah,
it's do you know the multiple streams is always needed
me to parking, not the little to keep a check.

Speaker 13 (01:00:35):
It's Nina Parker kept on stage Friday night vibes on TBS.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
It's the breakfast club.

Speaker 15 (01:00:40):
Good morning, that donkey, donkey that don't don't don't jump
dunk the.

Speaker 12 (01:00:44):
Other day, right, there's a breakfast club.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Bitches, you can call me the donkey of the day,
but like I need no harm, Yes donkey, whoa why
the hell I'm so loud? Scar myself?

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Don'ty today goes to a Pennsylvania woman named Christina solar Meado.
Christine this Solemido is forty four years old, and she
did something that people figuratively talk about doing. And I
wish I could cress on the radio but I can't.
But just know Bicki MinID wrote the song about doing
this to her ops. She called it did it on him.
But that's the clean version. Yeah, let's hear some of

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this classic.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Can you remember this right? Yes, that's how a clean
version go. No, it was okay, turn it up, let
me hit it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
Okay, keep the instrumental going for me.

Speaker 8 (01:01:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Yes, See all of y'all talk about releasing snak missiles
on your ops, but she never actually released the chocolate hostages.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
But Christina actually did. Let's go to NBC ten Philly
for the report.

Speaker 21 (01:01:43):
Police the police chief or Prospect Park says he has
seen some road reach cases during his career. Somebody cuts
someone off, then the drivers might get into a heated exchange,
then they typically drive away. But in this case on Tuesday,
there was a little more to that, and the incident
was captured on video by a bystander. That video, shared

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thousands of times on Instagram, shows a woman identified Thursday
as Christina Solometto walking to another woman's car.

Speaker 16 (01:02:15):
The forty four year old sits on the hood or not,
showing the.

Speaker 21 (01:02:19):
Most graphic parts of the video, including when she appeared
to defecate on the car. Solometto was brought to the
Prospect Park Police Department Thursday in handcuffs, offering no remarks.
She faces a number of charges, including in decent exposure
and depositing waste on a highway.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Imagine how mad you got to be the weaponize your
own digestive system.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Okay, this is biological warfare, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
I respect people who can back the brown Caldillac out
of the garage in public.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Okay, I'm not one of those people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Now. I am very regular. Okay, eight thirty am every.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Morning, I'm making a tombstone in the water grave here
at work. But if somebody comes in the bathroom or
sits in the stall next to me, I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Okay, I'm a cowboy fan, but I can't take the
Browns through the Super Bowl if someone else is in
the bathroom with me.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
So the fact this woman was able to bake some butt.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Brownies in public on Q It's impressive, but I'm gonna
tell you something, Christina. The reason you get in the
biggest he hards because, according to the police Affidavid, you said,
and I quote, I wanted to punch you in the face,
but I pooped on our car instead and went home.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
I would rather you punched it in the face.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
Okay. It takes way more energy to pull your pants.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Down and birth a creamy behemoth in public than it
does to punch someone in the face. Now, Christina allegedly
told cops that it was a clean poop.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
I didn't have to wipe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
True.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Quote For the record, there is no such thing as
a clean wipe, okay, are a clean poop?

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
When you release the mud monkeys, the antal area.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Becomes soiled with stool and you gotta clean it, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Fecal mata contains bacteria and other micro organisms that can
cause infections, are spread if not properly cleaned the way
and having residual dookie around the rim of your bookie
can cause discomfort, okay, itching and irritation whenever the inside
of your bonky itchin guarantees you didn't wipe properly. But
there is no clean kills. When you push you out
a suel snake. Okay, when you launch for torpedos, there

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is always a casualty.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
That's all I got. Please give Christina Solar medal the
biggest he hull he ha he ha.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
You stupid mother.

Speaker 10 (01:04:19):
Are you dumb the amounts of effort in which you
put that presentation?

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Yes, you did? You literally, boy, like you ate that
I would never eat.

Speaker 10 (01:04:36):
But what I'm saying you literally you told that story
like Maya Angela.

Speaker 15 (01:04:47):
All right, well, thank you for that donkey of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Now when we come back, thank you for that douchy.

Speaker 16 (01:04:53):
Of the day.

Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 15 (01:05:00):
DJ n V Jess hilarious, Chela mean the.

Speaker 13 (01:05:03):
Guy we are the Breakfast Club Laura l Rossa Field
in for just today we got a special guest in
the building.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yes, indeed we have the brother Leon Thomas.

Speaker 14 (01:05:10):
Welcome, Bro, It's good, it's good. Hey y'all feeling how
you feeling? Bless Black and Holly favorite Leon. You are
by far the greatest new male R and B singer
doing it today.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Man, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
That shouldn't even be up with debate.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Man, I really appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Man, how do you receive it?

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
I mean, you know, to be honest, I try to
just take it one step at a time. You know,
I try to stay humble with everything. But I'm glad
to be a new voice in R and B. You know,
it's a genre that I love. You know, I'm trying
to bring back live musicianship, real songs.

Speaker 7 (01:05:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Writing with the team that I have has been an
amazing pleasure. And you know, just bringing like that, that
organic feeling back to the live stage is like a
big thing for me.

Speaker 13 (01:05:50):
You know, for people that don't know Leon Thomas, you
know you started on Broadway. Tell everybody how you got
your start and your way into being this R and
B star. Well, listen, I grew up in New York,
started on Broadway out here. I did three Broadway plays
from Lion King the Carolina changed the color purple.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Yeah, yeah, I was assembling in Lion King. And then
you know, I started booking movies and TV show.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
How How was that?

Speaker 15 (01:06:13):
I just took my kids to see. You know, it
was insane, was that training? Because it's a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Shows, a lot of people in it's live, so you
can't mess up. No, no, no, you can't mess up.
It's eight shows a week. I was ten years old
when I did my first Broadway play. Shout out to
my mom and my family for you know, supporting me
through that whole journey. And yeah, man, I went from
being a regular kid to starring on Broadway and a
matter of months.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
You know, Now, how was that?

Speaker 13 (01:06:36):
Because it's not the typical thing New York kids do, right,
So you're singing, you're dancing, you're doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
So how did you get it to.

Speaker 13 (01:06:42):
That point of No, because you go to Broadway. I
don't know anybody they went to Broway, it's very differ.

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
I had a couple homies who ended up in different plays,
but for the most part, yeah, yeah, it was definitely
like a bit of an anomaly for my neighborhood in Brooklyn.

Speaker 11 (01:06:58):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
It was kind of weird playing it to my homies
in school, like, yeah, I was just doing a show
last night.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
They're like, what was going on?

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Yeah, we're not from New York, from the hoods of
New York.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Okay, but no, it was definitely a real pleasure, you know.
But but but from there, I ended up doing a
lot of TV and film.

Speaker 7 (01:07:19):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
I shot my first movie out here with Robin Williams
and Terrence Howard called August Rush, which was an amazing pleasure,
and that kind of brought me into a lot of
a lot of TV after that with Nickelodeon and Victorious Yeah, yeah, yeah,
with Arianna Grande, and you know, that was a big journey.
That was the number one show on the network at
the time. We were beating out American Idol and it

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was a way for the rest of the world to
kind of really tap into who I am as a creative.
But it took years of really honing in on who
I am as an artist to get to this point,
producing and writing for a bunch of different artists, went
in a Grammy, working with Siza and a Babyface Drake,
a bunch of different people. It's been a actually dou

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for Drake, but but you know, shout out to him
and yeah, allegedly, man, but you know, from me, I
don't think there's anything wrong with it either. But it
was a blessing to I mean, it's interesting because I'm
an artist and people see me as a singer, they
kind of forget that I also produced a lot of
big records.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
You know, my production game is pretty tight. So yeah,
all purpose your lyrics like that of a rap.

Speaker 14 (01:08:23):
But that's why when I see Freddie Gibbs on your records,
But it makes so much sense to be you're still
touching anybody from.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Victoria's absolutely man, you know, I'll chop it up with
Ari Avan. Joe Gia is a really good friend of mine.
You know, Matt Bennett, a lot of the cast. We
all hang out and do lunch. It's kind of like
my last two years of high school were with them,
so that's like my graduating class. Essentially. We were all
in school together, so we filmed, but we also went
to school. So Tho was my really good friends.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
To Victoria and her mom. I did a host of
the New Year's Eve special with them for real.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Oh that's dope. People.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
You ever wrote for a Yeah? Actually I worked with
her on her first album. That was my first time
on number one with an album. I did about like
four songs on her first album, Yours truly Wow, So
that was a real pleasure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Yeah. Did you know you always wanted to be an
R and B singer? Like?

Speaker 13 (01:09:10):
It was that the goal as a kid growing up?
You always wanted to be an actor? Like and when
did you pivot? When he was like this is what
I want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
I feel like I did this role with Katherine Bigelow,
She's an Oscar Award winning director, but I had to
cut my dreads for it, and that was kind of
like my last straw in acting.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I did this role for Detroit and I felt like,
you know, I need to kind of tap back into
who I am as an artist. You know, grew my
dreads back, really got into my internal self meditating, really
like tapping into who I am as a human being,
and a lot of great music came out of that.
You know, I always knew I wanted to be a singer,
but I knew for a fact I needed to really

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present myself as who I truly was. It's so easy
to play a character when you're always acting. You know,
I needed to come to the world as my true
self when you were on.

Speaker 18 (01:09:58):
The like the sets when you like even with like
Victorious and stuff like that. What was your mom and
like your parents there often or talked a lot about
that too, Like parents were close.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Now they were there, they were there.

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
My mom was never like a mamager like over my
over my shoulder kind of mom, but she was also
very protective of my piece and mental health and making
sure that I'm just like in a good, good space
while I'm while I'm trying to create something timeless, and
you know, shout out to her for just always you know,
creating safe spaces for me throughout that journey. You know,

(01:10:32):
from getting slimmed, it was definitely nuts, definitely nuts, you know,
seeing seeing how everything with them, Definitely it's definitely definitely insane.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Don't say that, definitely nuts after that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Yeah, I know, I know, you know it's crazy. It's
crazy because you know, I just saw the doc not
too long ago. It's definitely eye opening. And a lot
of my castmates we hopped on a Zoom call. We
all wanted to talk about it. And luckily during during
in our seasons, it was it was very wholesome and chill.
But you know, shout out to anybody who dealt with

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anything bad. I mean, I you know, my heart definitely
goes out to them.

Speaker 14 (01:11:10):
The thing I love about your music too is number one,
I can tell you you got a sense of freedom. Yeah,
but did that come with money or does that come
with just how you came up? You know, with your
mom doing music, so you always felt free as an artist.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
I mean, you know, I think the greatest thing about
being an artist is that it's a it's a great
representation of being a free black man, you know, like,
you know, being able to wear what I want, you know,
say what I want on on record is really important
to me.

Speaker 7 (01:11:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
I try to stay as grounded and uh as real
to who I am as I can be. I mean,
I think it's it's it's really easy to want to
be an artist and play a character who you think
people want you to be. But I'm doing my best
to just like kind of just say what I want
what I want, you know, when you come up.

Speaker 18 (01:11:54):
With songs, but like I like feelings on Silent I
love but songs like that, Like when I listen to it,
each time I get something different from it. So the
first time I listened, I was like, Oh, this is
like guys just being like we keep her feelingce to herself.
And then the second time I listened, I'm like, this
is the trauma that they deal with because like he
mentions PTSD and a bunch of other things, like how
do you first of all, sitting.

Speaker 16 (01:12:13):
Back you wrote that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I sitting back
and writing with him.

Speaker 18 (01:12:18):
How do you be like, Okay, here's all the things
that we want people to get when they hear this,
or do you guys just write and whatever people get
they get, Like were you dealing with something yourself then?

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Or you know? The way I wrote that record was
really interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
I was in I was in Italy actually, I was
working with Ya and TOI Dollars on the Vultures one project,
and I just had some lyrics kind of you know,
bubbling up in my head. But I think it was
one of those moments that it was just kind of
stream of consciousness. I didn't really think too hard on
my sections. That was like my second take that you're
hearing there. It wasn't like me like kind of really

(01:12:51):
punching in a bunch of different ideas. It was just
kind of flowing. And when Wile heard it, that was
probably the hardest verse to get because we did probably
we did like five sessions to get that one verse.
But Yo, he's so talented and seeing how he crafted
his verse, I mean, he would do like five bars
at the time, and he really cared about the poetry
of it all. And it's why I really respect him

(01:13:14):
as an artist. He's just a true lyricist who.

Speaker 13 (01:13:16):
Of course Leam Thomas a singer, songwriter, producer and acting.
His album Mutt is out right now, and we got
to congratulate you because you gotta Grammy for your record
with Sism. We tell everybody that we helped with that
because we played Snooze every morning four times.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
You wrote Snooze produced on Snooze.

Speaker 8 (01:13:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
First of all, let's clear this up. Shout out to
Scissen for writing that record. We were producing in a
separate room and she heard the instrumental and was like, yo,
what is that? And you know, there there is something
that I do where I like take my voice and
I chop it up like a sample because clearing samples
is really expensive and cuts into the publishing. So rather
than it's like actually doing a sample, I'll just you know,

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red sing a little something, right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
So she really liked that and then took it into
the other.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Room and wrote an amazing song and being a part
of the production on that with Babyface legendary baby Face
was a true pleasure man. I mean, it was a
real journey to see that song go from like a
crowd favorite to a Grammy Award winning r and B
song Man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
That was definitely life changing for me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
You got a deduction team, right, yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Yeah, the Rascal was me, Me and and Chris tians Man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
We've been working together since we were like eighteen, so
it's really cool to see the growth. I mean, we
started off, you know, a little shaky when it came
to production, but it's nice to see us, you know,
really develop into the producers we are now. We had
great mentors.

Speaker 18 (01:14:33):
Man, you have such big moments like even before that
and during that, but it's like, I don't know, like
when do you feel like things started like to click
finally where people were like, oh shoot, Leon, like.

Speaker 16 (01:14:43):
We get it now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
It's really interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
I like to call it the Drake effect when I
was working when I was working with Drake, all of
a sudden, label executives who have known me for years
were like, eh, I think you could be an artist,
you know, And I was like, okay, So I kind
of peeped that, and I said, okay, well let's start
kind of building this out. But I knew I wanted
that that same formula that Drake had with a Lil
Wayne and and and you know, working with Todd dallas

(01:15:07):
Son was a really smart move, not only because he's
just an amazing artist, but because it was just nice
to have a mentor who had done it already.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
So he's he's just like kind of like, yo, try this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Make sure the look has this, or you know, even
when it came to the music, like here's how you
really format an album, and I'm definitely doing a lot
of studying, you know, shout out to Todd dallas Sign
for sure. He definitely, you know, saw something in me
that a lot of label executives were not sure about,
and uh, it's cool to see it developing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
How did you real, Tom?

Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
How did you tie me?

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
I was actually working on his album as a producer
on featuring Todd dallas Sign. I was like one of
I think nine producers on a song with Kanye and
Thundercat and a bunch of other people.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
Nine producers on one record.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Yeah, because it's like when it it was like point five,
like I was just there out of this or that
vocal and like some bass or something. But but he
had everybody play like their un least records and I
played on some of my first album as like demos,
and Todd was like, yo, you really You're really tight,
you know as an artist, he was like man and
he was originally trying to record one of the songs

(01:16:12):
that I had, but I was like, nah, I want
you to feature on it. And over the years we
became really good friends. I was working with him a
lot and just kind of developed into a into a
whole situation with Sean Baron. Sean Barron is the guy
who officially like put it all together with Easy Money
in Motown.

Speaker 18 (01:16:27):
Is it tough navigating because people are getting to know
you now and everybody's fall in love with your music now,
and like you have such a close association with Drake,
you have to like pick and choose where you go
musically and what you do musically with.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Who you know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Honestly, can you work with Kendrick Lamar if you want to? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Yeah, yeah, I know that's what she's asking. I mean,
the way, the way I really look at it is
just like on a political level, I make R and B.
You know, obviously I make hip hop too, but I'm
really focused on my artist journey. So I mean, Kendrick
is such a huge artist. I don't really foresee us
working together in the near future. And even with Drake.
You know, I still want to take my steps to

(01:17:02):
really build on my own two feet as an artist.
So I'm doing what i have to do right now
to really like grow my own business. Touring is a
big thing for me. I'm really focused on that. I'm
hitting the road all this year and working on more records.
So I mean shout out to everybody, but but I'm
definitely focused on me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
How old were you when you realize Vibes Don't Lie?
One of my favorite records, When you first realized Vibes
Don't Lie?

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
I think that was that was definitely early twenties.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
I think uh LA is filled with facades and people
who are pretending to be something they aren't, people who
move from their hometown and create a whole new persona.
So I think for me, just really studying folks, especially
a lot of the women you deal without their you know,
it's really important to study their actions and not their words.

Speaker 14 (01:17:47):
I love the fact that you are encouraging women women
to keep their healthy Yes, did you ever want to
be a gun of collusest?

Speaker 7 (01:17:55):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
No, no, no, it wasn't on the list.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Listen, Yeah, I just listen. I just listen. Man, They
tell you like, Hey, I'm feeling the best of this.

Speaker 7 (01:18:06):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
I mean, I just think pH balance is a conversation
and you know, I just listen.

Speaker 14 (01:18:14):
You was very very specific. She said, uh, she only
drink water. She keep that healthy.

Speaker 18 (01:18:21):
They said on Twitter, you'd be talking crazy like that,
but you sing it, so people can't be you had
that conversation in real life, which your home.

Speaker 16 (01:18:28):
Like you're not your homegrow.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
I'm just big on shock value. I think songs, especially
R and B songs, have gotten a bit not boring.
But I think we've we've kind of already hit the
the golden era of R and B. So I'm just
finding new ways to make people's ears, you know, perk
up and their minds move. I think social media and
podcasts are really interesting to me. You know, these phone
mics bring out so many conversations, and I think as

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an R and B artist, I want to find ways
to let that live on the record, and it doesn't
always have to be like verbating of what I'm going
through in real life.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
I think it's important to create the drama.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
I kind of see music as you know, scripting the score.
So sometimes the records are just like really good dramatizations
of like what I'm seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
You never think everybody?

Speaker 16 (01:19:16):
But but like, why does that go for you?

Speaker 7 (01:19:19):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
I mean I don't think. I don't think it's now.

Speaker 18 (01:19:22):
Expecting you to be like, all right, here's the check,
Like how do you because you got the songs?

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Like yeah, yeah, you know, I definitely got the songs.
But I think it's just important to be honest with
your partner, you know, communicate. But but I think it's
it's a it's a pretty interesting conversation. I try to
stay out of if I don't have to. You know what, No,
I don't even know what that is you putting me
right now?

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Test a little bit, a.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Little wax on it, a little pinky, put the pinky
inside of hold on what you got something?

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
It should be. I don't know where that is nothing
that South Carolina the road thing that they do. It doesn't.
I do not try that.

Speaker 16 (01:20:09):
That doesn't Your mom never told you you got to
make it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Go drink gingerrels talking.

Speaker 16 (01:20:15):
About people everything, not earwax. Don't listen to him.

Speaker 8 (01:20:27):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
It's crazy.

Speaker 16 (01:20:30):
Macarmo used to be like, go get some ginger and
lay down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
Wow about we love gingerrel around here.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Did your therapist really tell you that you're too detached
or that you don't commit?

Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
Nah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
I think I think you know that bar for me.
I have a colt writer, Busy Cruk, and he lives
in Miami, great rapper. That was a bar that came
from him. He's very deep into therapy. But I'm glad
that we talked about it on record because I mean
it's something I definitely did try out over the pandemic
and it's something that I actually really respect you a
lot for a champion and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
You know, but but but yeah, that was a that
was a bar from Busy. But I thought it was
important to add in there.

Speaker 16 (01:21:10):
You know, don't try to blame Busy now.

Speaker 6 (01:21:12):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
I mean, you know that's my code, Roger. You know,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Like, we we write a lot of our songs together,
and I really respect a lot of the perspectives he
brings to a lot of my poignant records.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
You know, you have some great bars for dancing with.

Speaker 18 (01:21:27):
When I listened to Dancing with the Demons, do you
ever get like Miguel references sometimes?

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Absolutely, I'm like.

Speaker 16 (01:21:33):
Oh my gosh, Like I wonder if like that, Like,
are y'all do you know him?

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
Yeah, that's like my big bro. We actually did a
movie together. He was in Detroit when I had to
cut my hair for he was. He was an amazing,
amazing mentor for me for some years. You know that
bridge between R and B and rock and roll, He's
traveled across that bridge many a time. I definitely look
up to him when it comes to that. And you know,
for me, because I played multiple instruments, you know, I

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definitely try to just embody a lot of that energy.
But but I think we both have the same influences
as well.

Speaker 14 (01:22:05):
I agree with Lauren on that Miguel to me before
you was the last great R and B male R
and B singer. To me, I'm just talk about the
new guys. You know the legend I'm talking about. He
was the last one to me. And I felt the
same way when I heard Dancer with the Demons. I
feel like I feel like you're talking to yourself on
that record. Though you said you can't seem to save yourself,

(01:22:25):
never learn to ask for help going out all night
searching for a feeling. So so what what what have
you learned to ask for.

Speaker 16 (01:22:33):
Help and so what I thought, I took it as
it wasn't talking about a woman.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Point.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
Well, I mean it's interesting for me, like that record.
When I wrote it, I wrote it in two different days.
The first day I was you know, micro dosan on shrooms,
so it's a bit of a haze. The next day
I listened to it and I was like, man, this
is really poignant stuff. I mean, it's just really talking
about being up all night and searching for a feeling,
and it's trying to fill voids. I feel like, as uh,

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you know, when you're in your single journey, you can
you can try to fill a void with a with
a stranger and that's not always very healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
And it could be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
It could be fun, for sure, But but but and
then especially when you're when you're in the limelight. The
second verse is more so talking about being in the
limelight and trying to fill voice. Nobody really talks about
the darkness that comes with the flashing lights. And yeah,
that that that record was very deep and very personal
for me. You know, I'm glad that people resonate with it.

Speaker 13 (01:23:26):
Now you talk about Micaro Dosin on shrooms, but what
does that put your mind and do you always do
that to produce and write?

Speaker 7 (01:23:32):
Nah?

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Nah, I mean I think I think for this this album,
it was an interesting opportunity to to kind of unplug.
I mean, I wasn't doing as many shows around that
time too, so it was really helpful to to kind
of just get into my own head and try to
figure out who I am, you know. I I I
definitely did a lot of manifest and a lot of
just like writing down who I wanted to be as
a human being around that time, a lot of journaling,

(01:23:55):
you know, and looking back at that season in my life,
it was it was a journey for me to evolve
into who I am right now. I wouldn't suggest people
just go super crazy on shrooms or anything, but I
think microdosing, you know, a small amount, could be healthy
if you're trying to just find yourself, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
And at the time, I was trying to find myself,
you know, micro do.

Speaker 16 (01:24:15):
You said you were trying to find yourself. Did you
find yourself?

Speaker 6 (01:24:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
But I mean I feel like that's a constant journey.
That's like the whole part of finding yourself. You realize
it it never stops because we're always evolving, you know,
but it's it's great that I was able to do
it through music that that that was like a version
of musical therapy for me, And I'm glad that people
are resonating with it.

Speaker 7 (01:24:33):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
I love how you're normalizing dogs on but I'm not
a dog anymore.

Speaker 14 (01:24:37):
There is a young, unhealed version of me that would
have really appreciated that that record, because you make it
sound so fun. It's almost like women are just gonna
bring you in, like, oh, let me domesticate you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Nah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
I mean I was really just documenting what I saw,
but nah, nah nah, it's definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Its definitely talks to me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Post you know, post breakup, where where I just had
to I just had to figure it out. But I
think that's all a part of living, you know, you
get nervous though. This is a post breakup album. Yeah,
this is a post breakup album. So this is me documenting,
you know, finding myself first off, like you know, you
you're you're kind of broken after that, and then you
got to you gotta put the pieces back together.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Her fault, Yes, No, it's not her fault.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
It's it's her fault that you ended up being a dog,
you went through your own I think it's very commendable
to that. On the song safe place, you let the
person you're dealing with, no, this isn't a safe place.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think knowing that I wasn't
necessarily ready to settle down. I think that conversation definitely
came up a lot during I guess you would call
them all face you know, just understanding like, yo, I'm
I'm not trying to settle down. This is a this
is a fun place, you know. This is a a
time period where I'm just figuring me out. Work is crazy,
it's ecnic, you know, And I think having that conversation

(01:26:01):
was important to, like you said, just avoid people not
understanding what it was at the time.

Speaker 13 (01:26:07):
That's a personal because you're honest in music. But it's
difficult to be face to face with somebody and be
like it's very this is very difficult.

Speaker 7 (01:26:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
I really try my best to be as honest as
I can, but yeah, those are hard conversations, man. You know,
I can't sit here and say I've always done it
right or I'm perfect or anything. But I try I
try to be like real, you know, I try to
explain myself. But even when you explain yourself, sometimes wires
get crossed, you know. So I'm packing it and communicating,
you know, it's an important thing later on.

Speaker 6 (01:26:34):
No woman want to hear that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
She just lets you hit wrong.

Speaker 18 (01:26:36):
Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's not as a woman ever
said that to you when you were trying to like create,
like all right, maybe this is like a thing and
she's like, yo, I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Don't want to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
Actually yeah yeah. In my in my early twenties, I
was talking to this amazing artist. Uh and yeah she
was just like listen baby, the same safe place kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
You know, anybody know that. She's like, no, no, no,
I don't think you got it up a little bit.
Yeah no, no no.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
It was all good for me at that point. But yeah, yeah,
you know, it was definitely you know, it was definitely
a realization for me. I was like, oh, it can
happen on that side too. I was like twenty maybe twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
One, you know. Yeah, yeah, so I was like real
young green like, oh okay, alright, cool.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
So you're all looking for a relationship now if the
right person, Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely I'm definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
In that mode.

Speaker 6 (01:27:27):
Right now?

Speaker 16 (01:27:27):
Are you would you date other like artists celebrities or
do you like, how does that work? Are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
It's just hectic.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
I mean, you're kind of inviting the media into your
life like the one safe place you have. But I mean,
who knows if I really catch a vibe with somebody
who happens to be fans. I mean, I don't really
care about that side of things. You know, I've been
in the game a long time. I've met some beautiful
women who are amazing artists. But it's just about the
human being and it can be tough to to really
build something if both of your schedules are super hectic.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
So I don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:27:56):
I don't want to have a question two about another
record on far Fit. Yeah, you said, because he was
having a big conversation this week about Tricken Because you know,
Skip Bail is a legedly, Oh my god, for somebody
one point five million, and you say paid for my
mistakes and benes and diamonds two fifty fronted like you
was my autist. Five g's just across the Atlantic. We
sat in silence for almost two hours.

Speaker 16 (01:28:16):
Yeah, that's a horrible BACA quarter million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
Yeah, benzes and diamonds.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
Well, listen, when I wrote that record, it was not
for me. That was not a joint that I was
originally gonna use for me. It was for somebody really
famous and really rich. But I just love the way
it sounded, and I was like, well, you know what,
I love to speak in a world where I can
actually afford that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Why not let's manifest that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
No elucid dreams. You talk about your significant other leaving
things behind.

Speaker 14 (01:28:41):
Yeah, that was That was a fun record with Maseego
after a breakup. Why do you think that the topic
is taboo?

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
I don't really consider it taboo necessarily, but I think
it's just like it's just funny because for me, I
was living with my ex for like a couple of years,
so she just had like a closet filled with clothes
at my crib and it had been like a year
and a half since we were broken up. Uh, So
we were in the studio talking about different things.

Speaker 6 (01:29:03):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
The guitarist and producer on that song Freaky Rob his
girl left a flat screen at the house that he
had to use to watch Netflix. He was like, man,
when is she gonna take this flat screen? And uh,
you know, Masago also had a similar situation like that
at his crib with the couch. So we were all
just kind of using all of our different experiences putting
it into a song and you know, just locking it in.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
It's different when it's closed.

Speaker 7 (01:29:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
Did you clear you cleared out the class Yeah, definitely
clears out the h Yeah, clear.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Out the closet.

Speaker 16 (01:29:30):
Did you move out of the apartment or you just
cleared out the closing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Nah, I'm still at the crib, you know what I mean,
still at the crib.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
You know, there's definitely a certain interior design choices I'm
gonna switch up, so but it's like real reason Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:29:43):
The album is out right now. Make sure you pick
it up. And we appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
For joining us. Thank you so much for having me man,
it's a big opportunity. Thank you so much.

Speaker 13 (01:29:50):
It's Leon Thomas the album What is out now and
it's The Breakfast Club. Good Morning Warning, Everybody's team Jay
and v Jesse, Larry Challaman, the guy we are The
Breakfast Club's time to get about.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
They show them and you get a positive note down.

Speaker 14 (01:30:01):
A positive noteice simply this, I swear because we were
talking about this earlier, about not being able to say no.
We were talking about a glorilla when the girl walked
up to her asking her for money, you know, for
her tuition. Nothing has caused more problems for me and
my life than my inability to say no or turn
people down. Soft and empathetic nature cost you a lot.
Remember that and know is a complete sentence. Have a

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blessed date?

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
Oh my god, Now I like that.

Speaker 10 (01:30:24):
When drive a queen's bone for that? Because this man
is right, breakfast cup, you don't finish her, y'all dump

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