The Breakfast Club BEST OF(Camron, Chris Gotti, Omarion Interview)

Best of 2025- Best Interviews - Camron, Chris Gotti, Omarion Interview. Recorded 2025. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wake you up, Wake up, wakes up the program, your alarm,
the power one oh five point one on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Got morning Usa, yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
What's up, Jesse, Larry charlamage to god.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
It's Friday.

Speaker 5 (00:20):
That's right, It's Friday, Happy New Year. And now today's
interviews is the best of show. Of course we're on vacation.
Today's interviews is Camern and Chris Gotti and of course
Chris Scotti's IRV Gott. He's brother one of the founders
of Murder Inks. And this is some of the best
interviews of the year.

Speaker 6 (00:36):
Right right, Ray yo, charlamagn yafy? What up are we live?

Speaker 7 (00:40):
This is your time to get it off your chest.

Speaker 8 (00:42):
I got an indoor pool pool.

Speaker 7 (00:44):
We want to hear from you on the breakfast club.

Speaker 9 (00:46):
Get on the phone right now here, tell you what it.

Speaker 10 (00:48):
Is we lie.

Speaker 8 (00:50):
Hello, who's this?

Speaker 11 (00:51):
This is wrop baby laugh from will Sport, Connecticut.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Brother?

Speaker 8 (00:55):
What's going on with you?

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (00:56):
Listen?

Speaker 11 (00:56):
I just want to say God bless you Charlam man
and just hilarious man for what you do on a
daily basis. Man, it's not easy, and you don't get
the I want to give you your flowers while you're here.

Speaker 6 (01:10):
Man.

Speaker 11 (01:10):
You guys help.

Speaker 9 (01:11):
Me every day.

Speaker 8 (01:12):
Man, you put me in the right direction.

Speaker 11 (01:15):
You keep me safe, and I just want the positive
vibe to come back to you guys on a daily basis.

Speaker 8 (01:21):
Man, I love y'all.

Speaker 11 (01:22):
Man, Thank you, welcome you too.

Speaker 8 (01:27):
Hello, who yo up?

Speaker 9 (01:29):
Audist replay from Chicago?

Speaker 8 (01:31):
Replay what's happening?

Speaker 4 (01:33):
What up?

Speaker 10 (01:34):
What up?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Man?

Speaker 9 (01:34):
Look, I got to give a shout out this morning
to Lauren l Rosa.

Speaker 11 (01:38):
Man.

Speaker 9 (01:38):
She been holding down. Man, she's been coming with good news.
Good sack. Me and her the same age, man, and
I just love seeing people my age to go art
and then baby girl, keep doing what you do. You know,
thank you. I appreciate that, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
You go ahead game.

Speaker 9 (02:02):
Oh yeah, man, Look like I said, I'm replaying. I
want to probably I'm on Instagram, mat lady love.

Speaker 8 (02:08):
Why they call you replay?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Bro?

Speaker 9 (02:09):
Oh man, that's actually then they gave me I'm an
R and B singer and uh, I don't know one
of the guys Triumph replay. I'm like, all right that
because I want everybody to replay my phone.

Speaker 8 (02:18):
Okay, all right, brother, have a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Put a little more sauce on that. You know what
I'm saying, Yeah, you got to come up with something better.
Why they call you replay?

Speaker 8 (02:25):
I don't know? You know what I mean because when I.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Put it down, you know, ladies love it so much
they want to see it again. Something, you know what
I mean, Like this happened bag?

Speaker 8 (02:35):
He said facts. Oh okay, I don't know nothing else.
I thought he was telling me he wasn't in the women.
I didn't know. I'm like, what, excuse me?

Speaker 10 (02:43):
Hello?

Speaker 9 (02:43):
Is this Jake Metal?

Speaker 8 (02:47):
Jay Meta? What's uping?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Prt it off your chest?

Speaker 8 (02:49):
Jay medaw, good morning.

Speaker 9 (02:50):
You know I'm stressed. You know, I'm tired of people
always asking you you know you getting but now you
gonna get married? And I tell him in a minute.
You know, they're always telling you winning going to get
a new job, and I tell them in the minute.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Though.

Speaker 9 (03:05):
You know, everyone has their own page and they want
to put you to a standard to do things. You know,
how old are you me? I just turned thirty.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's why I didn't know men get that kind of pressure.
I didn't know men get that. That's not that's usually
pressure that's reserved for women. I'm talking about the marriage part.

Speaker 10 (03:22):
It's not a job.

Speaker 12 (03:22):
Do you have kids yet?

Speaker 9 (03:24):
No, that's what I'm saying. They have a kid in
the minute?

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Dog.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
You know, how old are.

Speaker 8 (03:29):
You to me?

Speaker 9 (03:30):
I'm getting close to the age. You know, thirty is
you know it's that.

Speaker 8 (03:34):
It's that point.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Want when they ask you, you know when you're gonna
get married, just be like I'm in the men though,
just say something like that.

Speaker 8 (03:41):
You know, think so, yeah, that's what I tell them.
That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
But that's definitely if you got older parents too, because
older parents want grandparents.

Speaker 8 (03:49):
I'm sure. So that's what they ask.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Older parents want grandparents.

Speaker 13 (03:53):
Guys by a certain age, if you don't have kids,
that'd be like or you're not married, they think something.

Speaker 8 (03:57):
Old parents want grand kids. That's what I matter.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, you'll meet you'll meet missus, miss mister Wright in
in due time.

Speaker 8 (04:04):
Miss mister or missus. I'm no have a good day, brother.
You appreciate you, yes, sir?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
All right, brother, get it off your chest. Eight hundred
five eighty five one oh five one. If you need
to vent phone lines, to wide openness, to breakfast club
in morning.

Speaker 7 (04:20):
This is your time to get it off your chest.
So you're man or blessed.

Speaker 11 (04:23):
I hate the way you walk, the weight you talk,
I hate the way you dress.

Speaker 8 (04:27):
Everything.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
When he is mess call up new eight hundred five
eight five one five one hit me.

Speaker 8 (04:33):
I'm with the coach of Philings.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Hello, who's this yo? What's super trucker?

Speaker 4 (04:38):
How you doing?

Speaker 8 (04:39):
Super truck?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
And talk to the trucker. I thought he said super sucker.
I like that you got somebody like this, dum man.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
I call you guys about uh months ago?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yes, sir, and I sing and like, man, I thought
I did all right, But I asked my all day.
I say, yo, you hit me on the breakfast club.

Speaker 8 (04:55):
She was like yeah, but you ain't listening.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I was like, what you mean?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
She's like NBS you how he will get up with
you and you trying to plug a dance song?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (05:04):
So she mad at you. She's like, damn you could
have got on you know. I bet this truck.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Hey look here man. She from the Bronx to Charlomagne.
So you know what I'm dealing with.

Speaker 8 (05:13):
She's crazy?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
So can I can I take this.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Time to tell people where they can find my music at.

Speaker 8 (05:19):
Man, you can't try to get you to do it
last time, but you ignored me.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Man.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Look, you can find my music at Superchuck at dot com.

Speaker 13 (05:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm at super Chuck on all of the platforms, super
Chuck at an Artists on TikTok, and I also have
a show coming up at the Tiny sat Toau in Jacksonville,
North Carolina, where I'll be performing alongside my manche Taylor.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
How long a you, bro?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Twenty one years?

Speaker 8 (05:44):
Man, congratulations to you king you in the.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Truck now, yes, sir, you know what I.

Speaker 10 (05:50):
Yes, sir, there he go.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
You be safe, all right, man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Man, y'all have a good one.

Speaker 8 (05:57):
Love to you. Brother.

Speaker 12 (05:58):
I've never actually since I've been here, what does that
do for you?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
And they?

Speaker 8 (06:03):
So as a kid, I'm going to explain it.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
So as a kid, my parents, you know, we couldn't
afford airplane tickets, so we would drive everywhere. We would
drive to Virginia Beach. We would drive to Virginia, We
drive to the Carolinas. We would drive to Miami or Florida.
And you know, back then it was. We didn't have
game boys, nothing like that, so our fund would be
there when we passed truckers try to get them to
blow the horn.

Speaker 8 (06:23):
So that was like a game we played as a kid.

Speaker 12 (06:25):
Oh that's so cute.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
Okay, yeah, that's that's what we did.

Speaker 12 (06:27):
So I didn't know where that from.

Speaker 8 (06:30):
What That's cute man.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
So me and my cousin would be like, yo, yo,
I got them so.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
That when we first started like getting God's attention and
making them do things for.

Speaker 8 (06:40):
You women drive trucks to sir, you.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Ain't never seen no one with rugg whole live. I
never did back then, that never did. Get it off
your chest. Eight hundred five eighty five, one oh five one.
If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's
the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
And hilarius charlamagnemc God. We are to Breakfast Club. We
got a special guest in them. Yes, sir a Marion
he welcome back.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Good brother.

Speaker 8 (07:04):
Hey, what was your routine this morning?

Speaker 10 (07:05):
Man?

Speaker 8 (07:05):
What did you do up?

Speaker 10 (07:07):
Pray, meditation, a little moment to myself.

Speaker 14 (07:10):
You know what I'm saying, Shower up, get fresh, say
my affirmation, put on my ood.

Speaker 8 (07:16):
Yeah, what is your attention for today.

Speaker 14 (07:19):
They just have a good time. You know what I'm saying,
not put too much on it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
You weren't known as the zen King?

Speaker 15 (07:26):
Like how do you stay so tranquil, like, so zenful
through everything?

Speaker 6 (07:33):
Like you don't let nothing bother you? Y. I done
came at you so many times. This man lets nothing
get to him.

Speaker 10 (07:43):
I'm trying to get I'm intentional.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (07:46):
And also I don't take things personal, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
The wild thing is, you know, Marion. I just looked
it up. A Marion is forty years old.

Speaker 8 (07:53):
Crazy, we've been seeing him grow up.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
He's still Marion Foyer, got baby head.

Speaker 10 (08:05):
Yes, yes, a blessing it is.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
People still look at you as like a young I
can't say team, but a young twenty year old because
that's what you look like.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (08:15):
Well, I mean it does confuse people sometimes, but yeah,
I think I made.

Speaker 10 (08:19):
It to young status at this at this point in time, you.

Speaker 8 (08:22):
Ain't kid, so is you know you can't be?

Speaker 6 (08:31):
No Millennium toys back?

Speaker 14 (08:33):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm super excited about it. We
played Barclays on the twenty first, So if you ain't
got your ticket.

Speaker 10 (08:40):
Definitely pop out. It's a moment. It's a moment.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
What keeps you doing all?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Is that?

Speaker 6 (08:45):
That all he is?

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Like?

Speaker 6 (08:46):
What keeps you doing doing this?

Speaker 8 (08:48):
He's still doing flips and dance Like what you twist?
You ain't gonna take a long time to heal.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
No.

Speaker 14 (08:55):
Actually, I have a routine of of making sure that I,
you know, stay energized. I'm a performer, so it's important
that I take care of my body. But the Millennium Tour,
you know, is a series concert that has brought nostalgic literally.

Speaker 10 (09:08):
Back on the planet. You know, my error in my time.

Speaker 14 (09:10):
I'm so happy to been a part of it because,
you know, it brings you back to a memory and
creates a new memory at the same time, you know,
So I'm excited. Yeah, were keeping it going, We're keeping
that energy going.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Can I ask you what forty felt like? And I
remember how I felt when I turned forty?

Speaker 10 (09:26):
Yeah, where were you?

Speaker 8 (09:28):
What were you doing? How did it feel?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Because to me, it felt like I really entered the
new dimension when I turned for it.

Speaker 14 (09:33):
Yeah, So I usually don't do anything for myself and
shout out to Janine who helped me put together my
birthday party. But I had a birthday party in Malibu
and it was such an amazing gathering. You know, all
of my friends came out of my family. So I
did something for myself, you know, which was thought party.

(09:53):
It was a lot of beautiful people in the building.
So that's what I did for my birthday.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Did you feel like yourself going into a different level
of conscience?

Speaker 14 (10:02):
For sure, a different level of maturity, a certain level
of expectation for myself. The things that I'm creating now,
you know why am I still doing it? I definitely
feel like I've arrived because, you know, I'm one of
the few entertainers that have grown up in the public eye.
So growing up has you know, been a challenge. It's

(10:23):
sometimes in my career, you know what I mean. So
I finally feel like I've arrived to that place where
you know, I can have a say so and people
are understanding and respected. So, now, how do you figure
out who closes the Millennium Tour? Like who closes that show?

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Artists on it and you're one of the originators on
that tour, so closes the Millennium Tour?

Speaker 14 (10:44):
Well, it is a co headline, you know, myself, Trey,
and Bao. So it's it's kind of meant to be
like a festival vibe. You know, any real performing artists
will tell you sometimes it's not best to close the
show because you know the energy is drained. You know,
you kind of want to go maybe second before you know,
the last. So for me, yeah, I don't really trip

(11:07):
off of that, but yeah, that's how we decide between
us and the promoters.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
How do you headline? So is it like you do
two then you jump in dough two. Yeah, Trey jumps
into do tune and exactly.

Speaker 14 (11:17):
Yeah, maybe Trey will close and then me and Bob
will swap in between, you know, him going last before
Trey or maybe going last before Trey.

Speaker 15 (11:24):
So yeah, so I know, before you know, the Millennium Tour,
it was b t K.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
Why not this run?

Speaker 14 (11:34):
Well, this one was kind of more so framed for
this class. You know, all the If you look at
the you know who's on there now, it's a lot
of non Millennium you know artists, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I think it's so cool that Boosey is gonna be
on there, you know what I mean? Yeah, apply I
think We're gonna get some special guests as well, exactly

(11:57):
the whole vibe. So it's kind of, I would say,
a little bit different than you know, like the previous years.

Speaker 10 (12:04):
So yeah, that's that's how Why.

Speaker 14 (12:06):
Are we getting all the old like that? Yeah, we
getting the classic. Get in the classics. Yeah, we're getting
the classic. It's actually my twentieth year anniversary of putting
In being a solo artist. Yeah, time is flying flying, Yeah,
so yeah, we get into classics. And also I'll be

(12:28):
introducing some new music, you know, I mean, I got
some new music, some new slaps.

Speaker 10 (12:31):
I'm gonna be performing as well.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
You said something that was interesting. You said growing up
for you was a challenge. Why was growing up a challenge?
Did you mean personally or professionally both?

Speaker 14 (12:41):
All just because you know, when you're young and people
see you're young and you don't change much, you know
what I mean, Like physically, you know, because I take
care of myself. You know, people tend to just you know,
put you where they thought that you were.

Speaker 10 (12:56):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (12:57):
So yeah, it's been a challenge in that way. And
so in business, you know, just really being able to
like have a say so, and then I just be like, Okay,
well you're a kid, you know what I mean. Any
child stars will tell you, you know, having a foot
in control in their business is a struggle when you
start young.

Speaker 8 (13:17):
When did that change?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Like when did people start saying, Okay, this is a
Mario and the grown man, not the kid from you two.

Speaker 14 (13:22):
I think once I really started taking full responsibility for
my independence, you know, trying different things. I think that
you know, when you're in the industry for a long time,
it is peaks and valleys. You know, you're not going
to have ten hot moments, you know what I'm saying.
You might have a down moment, you might have a
transitional moment. I think that it's okay, you know, when

(13:43):
you're finding your way. And I feel like after my
last couple of projects, you know, just supporting myself, being independent,
Like I started to feel like, Okay, now I have
control of my career.

Speaker 10 (13:56):
Oh I want to put this out.

Speaker 14 (13:57):
Okay, maybe I should put it out this way, you know,
maybe I should do things differently.

Speaker 10 (14:02):
You know, I grew I grew into that.

Speaker 14 (14:04):
So I'm like very proud of that, you know, because
a lot of artists don't get the chance to do that,
that's true.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
And nobody talks about that, right, like nobody talks about
when you're red hot, and yeah, there's an ice box
for your career used to be.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Like, I mean, I don't feel like you've ever been
through that because you're always on the road.

Speaker 14 (14:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, And I've been gifted, you know, with
the talent to be able to do many things. Like
two years ago, I believe the last time we spoke,
you know, I was promoting my book. So there's always
something for me to do. Something new that I just
did that's really exciting is a show called The wild

(14:40):
Rose with all Black, So I'm gonna be you know,
hitting your TVs in twenty twenty six. I play an assassin,
so it's something different. First of all, Yeah, I'm doing
fighting scenes. I'm socking and popping. Wow, so you will be.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
Seeing me King is now an assassins.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean, you know I'm.

Speaker 14 (14:57):
Acting, right, but you know, the the real true measure
of an actor is to tell the truth, you know
what I'm saying. So get to show a different side
of myself. I'm excited about.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I feel like that's a natural transition for all you
flexible guys.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
Yeah, we've been asked, what is your relationship now with
b two K.

Speaker 14 (15:17):
I always will honor you know, my group, my foundation,
and you know where I come from. Uh As far
as personally, you know, we don't really have a relationship,
not not really.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
You know.

Speaker 14 (15:32):
I will say that Bud did come to one of
my shows and we chopped it up, you know, So
there'll always be a type of love there. You know,
we grew up together and you know we we did
something in all of our lives that no one in
our lives did, you know what I mean. So I
think that there's always an honor system there, you know,

(15:52):
not to speak negatively ever, and it just be like, yeah,
you know that was.

Speaker 15 (15:56):
That before the group started or where you guys were
brought together as the group.

Speaker 10 (16:02):
We were brought together as the group. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (16:05):
The first time I met them, it was at a
New Year's Eve party and they performed and I performed,
and it.

Speaker 10 (16:11):
Was like, you want to be the leads singer?

Speaker 4 (16:13):
I was like yeah, so.

Speaker 15 (16:16):
Yeah, yeah, And what about you and Marcus Houston?

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Are y'all close?

Speaker 3 (16:21):
No?

Speaker 6 (16:23):
Got you?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (16:24):
I don't know why we thought y'all was real brothers.

Speaker 16 (16:25):
That everyone you know, that was our thing.

Speaker 10 (16:27):
That was our thing back then, you know what I mean.

Speaker 14 (16:29):
Anybody that was a part of the camp was fam
you know, it's like, oh that's my cousin, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (16:34):
But yeah, no real blood time.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
You were wanted a few people who probably experienced real celebrity,
right because I don't feel like there's real celebrity no more.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
That's true.

Speaker 10 (16:45):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Like y'all had to like run from crowd, be duncked
off in disguise.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
Yeah, how did that feel? And was it hard when
you weren't feeling it anymore?

Speaker 14 (16:54):
You know, it was amazing to you know, look back
on it. There was sometimes where you know, I think
got hurt, he got lifted up into a crowd. It
was like a dangerous you know what I mean, because
five little strong girls is stronger than the biggest man,
you know what I mean. But looking back on that
time and having it, you know, be a part of
my experience as far as the organic you know, energy

(17:17):
between you and your fans was amazing. And when it changed,
it changed, not just for me, for everyone. You know,
I think you still have a little bit of a
fandom still today, but it's view different.

Speaker 10 (17:27):
It's almost like are you okay? Why are you screaming?

Speaker 8 (17:30):
Are you okay?

Speaker 3 (17:31):
You know?

Speaker 10 (17:32):
I still I still receive that love. You know, no
matter where I'm at on the planet, people still come
up to me and be like, wow, my childhood. Can
I take a picture with you?

Speaker 14 (17:39):
So I always appreciate, you know, the influence that I've
had on people's life experience through music, through movies, through
So yeah, I don't feel no way about it. You know,
I definitely feel like, you know, a sort of an
elder on the scene, you know what I mean, that
has had all the experiences.

Speaker 8 (17:58):
So it's just different when you got that when you
were a child.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
That's what I'm saying that I guess that kid, you
know what I mean, Like they at different, yeah than
everybody else.

Speaker 10 (18:08):
Period, And those fans are still with me to today.

Speaker 14 (18:11):
I'm so thankful for those fans that stuff with me
because we're able to put on the Millennium Tour. We're
able to you know, bring that nostalgia back on the planet, which,
by the way, before the Millennium Tour, you know, that
wasn't the show, that wasn't the you know the set
list for you know, all of these productions. You know
what I mean, to have a little bit nostalgia in
your production, you know, is a great thing.

Speaker 10 (18:32):
What was the crazy story that you remember as a child.

Speaker 14 (18:34):
And a girl being in our room before we got there?
You know, the security would have to like check the room.
I always thought that was weird because you know, nobody
was in the room. How would they girls sitting in
there crouching down as soon as we walk and we're like, oh,
a green room or like it was a green room

(18:54):
and then all my personal room, you know, one of
the workers just let themselves in and I was like
half sleep and I woke, like.

Speaker 10 (19:02):
What are you doing? It was a girl was trying
together and she was like hey, she was trying to gather.
I'm like, well, I'm sleeping. No, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Now?

Speaker 3 (19:10):
You gotta go?

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (19:12):
Yeah yeah, So that was when it was like a
little scary for you was a kid. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (19:16):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Did you find that your fans grew with you?

Speaker 10 (19:19):
Yes, that's a lot of them.

Speaker 14 (19:21):
I mean a lot of them still, you know, still
pop up to the shows and come to the meet
and greets and everything.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
So yeah.

Speaker 10 (19:28):
Yeah, girls I grew up with from New York City.

Speaker 14 (19:30):
They know who they are, you know what I mean,
still come to my shows, got kids, got got work,
all all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
So they never bring any of the kids. And they
got babyheads and you know long Yeah, I.

Speaker 10 (19:41):
Say, what's up to their kids? Kids named after me?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (19:46):
Yeah, kids named after me and everything like, yeah, it's it's,
it's it's it's a few kids out there named after
O Mari.

Speaker 8 (19:52):
They look like kids for real.

Speaker 10 (19:57):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, the ghost meet.

Speaker 8 (20:00):
And greets, that's what you're asking.

Speaker 10 (20:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (20:03):
No, Now I haven't been any of those yet, but
I'm pretty sure that I've you know, inspired some kids
out there.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
What about baw waw. You think you and bowleve do
a joint album.

Speaker 10 (20:11):
Again, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Speaker 14 (20:13):
I feel like if I'm gonna do, you know, any collaboration,
whether it be rappers singer, I feel like they have
to have like current music out you know what I'm saying,
music that and you know, current music of the last
maybe three three years, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
if I'm gonna do a collaborative, it's gonna be like, okay,

(20:33):
new music, we're working on new vibes.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Why is that just because you feel like, you know,
if you made music in the last three years, you
actually care.

Speaker 8 (20:40):
You're active.

Speaker 14 (20:41):
Yeah, you're active, you know what I mean, Like you
know what's you know as far as producers, you know
what I mean, like what does that look like? And
also I feel like you you have a like a
better shot at putting something out, you know, like visuals.

Speaker 10 (20:56):
I think that today's artists, like there's so.

Speaker 14 (20:59):
Many things that you have to do in order to
you know, really be visible, you know what I mean.
So I will want someone that's not just you know,
visible you know, on social media, but like in the
music too.

Speaker 8 (21:10):
Like you and Leo will cook up.

Speaker 10 (21:11):
Oh yeah, Dob, that'll be dope.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
Have you ever reached out to Leon No?

Speaker 10 (21:16):
No, no, not yet, but we've crossed paths.

Speaker 14 (21:18):
Yeah, we cross paths. I love to see what he's doing,
you know what I mean. Like he's he's actually a
child star too, you know, he's someone that started very
very young. So to see where he's at today is
just it's awesome. I feel like that's you know, it's
it's very rare to see a lot of child stars
continue on and continue to transform. And that's what I've

(21:40):
always loved about music is is you don't have to
stop or you don't have to essentially get old. You know,
you can pick up a you know, a flute. You know,
you can pick up an instrument, you can write, you
can direct, you know, it's so much to do in
our business.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
What's the one thing you wish you knew when you
first started your career? What forty year old of Maya,
what would he tell you sixteen year old to Mario?

Speaker 14 (22:01):
I think about like life, insurance policies, you know, trust,
you know, just certain things that you know, if you
wanted to take a break, you could, you know what
I'm saying. That's something that I feel like, you know, finances.
I just I wish I would have, you know, been
given that game earlier on. I felt like, you know,

(22:22):
maybe I would move differently, you know, if I had that.
But you know, everything is for is for a reason.

Speaker 10 (22:28):
So yeah, definitely check him out on tour Millennium to twenty.

Speaker 14 (22:32):
What's the date we at the Barclays Marsh twenty first,
y'all pop out?

Speaker 8 (22:37):
Seventeenth, seventeenth here.

Speaker 15 (22:39):
I don't know maybe's changed from my city because I
know out sixteen.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
And then Barclays is the next day, March seventeenth.

Speaker 10 (22:49):
Thank y'all so much.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Just I know we've seen Drake beat you in the
dance battle too, and a dance battle and.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
Drake killed him. I don't believe that I know Droid
at the birthday party.

Speaker 10 (23:02):
Oh he was at I was keeping the light.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Lights.

Speaker 10 (23:07):
Give me up one, No, it was his.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
All right, Well it is.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
It's the Breakfast Club of Mario. Yeah, everybody's d J
n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the
Breakfast Club. Law La Ros is here as well. We
got a special guest in the villain.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
One of the most hustling ladies and gentlemen Killers camera man, How.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
You'll be good? More man, How you're doing, how you feeling?
Recular man, Good to be back and you've been up here.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
In a little minute before we before we go anywhere,
I just got to ask one question, are you gonna
do another project?

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Man?

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Because you you play too much, you rapping, and you stop,
then you spit, then you stop, then somebody pisses you
off and you wrap him like killer. Still got it?
Just do a project.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Killers like for what now? Of course you know you
my brother. I appreciate that, but it don't be making
fun sense. Like if I'm gonna do a project, you're
gonna get merchandise behind it, it's gonna be a tour
behind it, everything else. But you know, I do the
freestyles on my show and here and there, but as
far as doing an actual project, and don't be making

(24:13):
financial sense for me, like you seem to be wrapping
my age. It's only a few kids who could really
go on tour. Who's my age? Just thinking in their
brain they're doing a lot, but they're not really doing
what they think they're doing. Because when you like, for me,
I was on tour up until twenty twenty when Covid hit,
I was on tour. I just didn't go back on

(24:34):
tour after that. But every every tour I had something
lined up, not just the show behind it. I keep
the freestyles far doing the album albums last time, like
a great album is like two weeks. You know what
I'm saying, Like that's I'm talking about a great one
last two three weeks?

Speaker 8 (24:50):
Even like an EP just.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Look look me and Mace got some Now I would
do that me and ma it's got like nineteen records. Wo.
But I can't put him out, like like I feel
like my hands is tied with this. He'll get in
the mood and he'd be like, we're gonna come out.
Then he be like, nah, just wait and then don't
come out. I could play for y'all with nobody listening.
The world ain't listening. But Mace is really really nice.

(25:17):
I don't know. I can't tell you. I'm like, he's like,
he gets in the mood and we're gonna do it,
and then he'd be like, we're not gonna do it,
and what we got going on now is too good
to even question it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (25:29):
So the worst two slick talkers out there.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
But on could y'all hear me do the free stops?
Mace is like dumb nice get like now I'm talking
about you know you ain't hear really rapping a nice
nice like a real real problem. I don't want to
say he's better than me. I want to say that
he's right underneath what he spent on what it is
I forced him, dude, be like too much for that

(25:53):
to happen. But but do you know what the problem
is for me. He sends me to tell him just
stop sending me because I'm getting frustrated he do. I
think you do this to tease me, to be honest
with you, Kim listening to this, listen to this and
it never comes out. But I think he does it
for therapy. He makes too much other money besides what
we do. Mace makes a lot of money, and I

(26:14):
think I don't like I don't want to say that,
but music isn't a priority. I wish it.

Speaker 13 (26:19):
I saw you tell if it's bleep that Mace told
you that if you and Joe was the music, or
you and him even do anything that y'all put out,
it has to be like a moment because of all,
would that moment if y'are hypothetically speaking, if it did happen,
what would that moment be?

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Is it a Mace?

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Anything we do together like Mace, Like if we get
booked together. Mason moved for less than one hundred thousand
for him, and that's just being nice, Like he just
don't move. He do too much others to where he's like, Kim,
if I'm not getting a hundred, I don't even call him.
If it ain't like two hundred thousand. But he doesn't.
He doesn't care, like he really doesn't like what he

(26:56):
got going on. He doesn't care about doing anything else.
So I'd be like, Yo, Matshaw, listen so and so
on the bookers for like one hundred twenty five thousand,
like you're gonna take twenty five, And I'm like, He's like, camm,
y'all have to realize there's some moment when we're together.
We haven't been seen for twenty five for ten years,

(27:18):
why would we take that money. I'm like, Mace, it's
just a look. It's not a good look. So more
of the story is he basically says, we haven't been
speaking for a while, we're getting older. Everything that we
need to do needs to count. So kind of like
when you heard me say that with Juel's, same thing.
Juelle's has sent me to do a record, sent a

(27:39):
record for me to do probably five or six months,
maybe longer than that, and there was a good record,
but it was like, y'all be spectacled when you do
a song in fifteen years. So that's kind of what you're.

Speaker 10 (27:49):
Gonna How did you?

Speaker 5 (27:49):
It makes get back together for people that don't know
because there was Yuay. Were going back and forth for
years and then Bill.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, absolutely shot to Gillian Wallow. He went on Gillian
Wallow's show. I guess as artist was saying that Mace
was stealing from him or whatever, and when he was
up there, he just was like he basically like shouting
me out in the cool way. He's like, because you know,
he did a disrecord and it was kind of it
was crazy the oracle this to me, He's I didn't

(28:16):
really want to do that the camp and I was like,
but he said, in the coolies like cams my man.
Then I went on Gillian Waller and then we talked
and then when we spoke, we spoke and we just
kept it moving. But all because of Gillian Waller.

Speaker 10 (28:31):
Basically click how the show come together from there, So.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
The show actually came together. We were supposed to do a
tour after we got cool met him and Jada. That
didn't work out, and so many people were inviting me
to do podcasts, like yo, cam do a podcast when
you're gonna do a podcast, and I'm like, I don't
really want to talk to for a living, you know
what I'm saying, Like the Christ like, I don't want
to have to talk to nobody, but I do like sports.

(28:57):
So I look at the phone, I'm arguing with the
time I hang the phone up, it's say two and
a half hours of me argueing with it about sports.
So I was like, maybe this is something I want
to do. And I built a stage. I go out
of sound stage, I built my own set out, and
I said I'm going to do ESPN mester Hood. So
that's why we were suits on the show. But it

(29:19):
was a professional setting. And then after that I invited
Mace on the show as a guest and he's like, here,
what's going on? So I'm just shooting. I got a budget.
I'm gonna reach his budget and see if his bike
of course, and he's like you want to be partners.
I'm like, after I get my money back on what
I spent, we could go fifty to fifty and he's like,

(29:40):
all right, bet. So we did about ten shows and
a bunch of people called, so we ended up doing
like thirty shows and ended up getting a really good deal.
But after I did like five shows, he's like my
fifth guests and he's like to be partners. Shoes I
have nobody consistent doing it anyway, So that's how I
came together.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I did y'all smoking man. I think everything that y'all
have done in the media, it's grazy what it is,
what it is.

Speaker 8 (30:01):
And then talk with Lee. I thank y'all smoking, Nah.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
I appreciate that. Thank you, brother, I appreciate it, man.
It's all natural, it's all fun and kind of me.
A Mace relationship is like just picking up because we
me talking about just regular high school. After high school,
we gotta realize a lot of our public life was publicized.
So Mace got his deal at twenty one. I got
my deal at twenty one. So a lot of Chelse

(30:24):
seen music wise, it's been since we twenty one years old.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
And I also say, you know, if you whatever, but
thank you for that. If what you build only benefits you,
it's not big enough. I love the way that you've
empowered somebody like Treasure, you know what I'm saying. And
I know you gots do like a whole production team there,
and she has.

Speaker 12 (30:39):
Like a network or something for her own where she
can shun.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Well, she has her own show. It's called check Out
the stat and whatever she wants you to do. She's
able to do. We don't hold anybody out. We don't
stop nobody from doing what they can do, what they
want to do. She's big in the streaming world. You know,
I'm not really twitching and all that. It's like she's
big with Consanai and her boyfriend's a streamer and everything else.

(31:04):
But she just turned twenty four years old. So it's
really dope to have a dynamic of her being on
a show because we tease her about we don't know
and that should turn it back on us, like y'all
just don't know this. So it's good different generations being
on the show. But definitely she has a bunch of
she was going on with her show. It's called check
Out the Step in the.

Speaker 13 (31:23):
Moment with her you and Adrian Brawner that went viral.
We had a conversation about it up here, and when
I watched the moment, I was so appreciative of it.
And I'm not her just because I know what it's
like to not be able to like kind of say
things or whatever. When that went super vibe, when people
were reacting to it, how did you feel watching it
because it was a natural thing for you to just do.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
I don't really watched the show, to be honest with you.
We do the five days a week and I keep
it moving, so I didn't really I never watched it.
But it's in the moment your accent, like, but in
the moment see a lot of things y'all didn't see.
We don't we don't go live. We pre record. So
I stopped the show like six seven times and asks
him to stop. You know what I'm saying. It wasn't

(32:04):
like just once, it was like six seven times because
I know his dream Broun. I have a relationship with him.
I kept asking him to stop, and he was like, oh,
my bad, mo, my bad, bro, and he went and stopped.

Speaker 14 (32:14):
To look so good in personally say what you wish that.

Speaker 10 (32:23):
I love you got.

Speaker 8 (32:26):
I'm sorry, I'm my bad, yaf my bad?

Speaker 10 (32:30):
Hey stuck?

Speaker 6 (32:30):
Could you stop?

Speaker 8 (32:31):
Can you stop?

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yo?

Speaker 8 (32:34):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Broh? I told you so. Basically, I just asked him
to leave. You know, I didn't really want some of
the parts that I wish would It got edited to
where when I came back and I was kind of frustrating,
and I said something about him afterwards, which I didn't
want to air, but that was just pure frustration. But

(32:55):
in the moment, that's like my little sister, you know
what I'm saying. So at the end of the day,
if if you keep doing that, you dispected her. And
then if I asked you to stop, you disrespected me.
So now you're really in my house and you disrespected me.
So I paid him for his time and asked him
to leave. Like I said, it ain't like he's a stranger.
I know who he is and we got some mutual
friends as well, so but in the moment, it was

(33:15):
just disrespectful because it isn't like we asked you to
stop several times, and.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
He apologized and people were mad at you because they're like, yo, you.
I guess they caught you saying something why his face, that's.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
What I was talking about. I mean I was saying
that because when I sat back then I was like,
I hate this. I don't really want to repeat what
I say, and he's like, basically, yuh can this that?
And the third why'd you why'd you say that? It
was purely out of frustration. That's like saying, if y'all
walked me out now and then you sit down, you know, no,
I didn't sit down for the edit, and then you'd

(33:46):
be like, yo, this you know what I'm saying. I
said a little more than that, but it's like that
part should have been cut out. But it wasn't about
saying nothing to his face. I said it to his trade.
I walked over to him, and actually I scored him out.
It wasn't about a fighting situation for me and nothing
like that was just more of for I think he
was a little intoxicated and he just needs to be escorted.

Speaker 8 (34:06):
Out, accountable.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yes, smart guy.

Speaker 8 (34:10):
So any artist that comes up there that talk to you,
you're gonnay him out.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
You think about it is I'm not gonna terms Crawfords.
I'm not walking up on m.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
But the security there, it ain't just us in there.
It was just other people in that that's outside the studio.
So it isn't just randomly me just putting out. But
I feel me and him was cool enough for me
to do.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
And I'm glad you brought that Pink horse power. Oh yeah, yeah,
because I can't order it discreetly. I don't think I'm
glad that you brought it up here.

Speaker 8 (34:42):
What is it?

Speaker 6 (34:43):
I thought it was edible.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
What is it.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
She could take one from many your time. So basically
they delivered too.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
By the way you call it, okay, crazy.

Speaker 8 (34:59):
Honey back in the day.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, this is all naturals today. Yeah, it's all naturalist
from Africa, Africa. I'm gonna show you the video like
so you can see exactly where I went to get it.
Because the thing about it is this, So they have
this in the city, different places. But what happens is
I know people in Senegal and it comes in on

(35:23):
the boat. And what happens is when it's on the boat,
they water it down, they double or double down, so
it's more when it gets here. And basically I keep
it on the boat for two months to watch our
stocks so that we make sure we have the highest
potency of it. But it's all natural leaves, roots, trees,
and we just got the best product. It works. We've

(35:44):
been doing this for four years, probably made close to
ten million dollars on it, and uh, it's been really
really good. My man sugar Doggar basically runs everything right
now with that. But it's been really well. And the
thing about we are reoccurring customers that it's coming back.
I guarantee it, like Frank Lucas said, I guarantee it
like it's really gonna work. But Jess asked me how

(36:06):
long I was saying that. I said ten minutes. I said,
I wouldn't go do that and go to the mall,
hang out with your mom, nothing else.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Take that when it's time to go in and work
really Fastna.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Everything's good. You see, every know.

Speaker 8 (36:23):
That's a conversation.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
We're gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Ill don't want to say too much because but that
has good health reflect as well.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Now I tell everybody Cam is one of the pettiest
people I know. Right, yeah, I said, between Cam and fifty,
they are the two pettiest people I've ever seen in
my life.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Trying to do better though you're not what happened.

Speaker 8 (36:39):
To Omar good and so you try.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
To do better after that, she don't be knowing the
best story. So like right, Omar good and part of
me again. I was on my show talking about be
less actors black black actors. No disrespecting him, but we
all know his brother Cuba is the biggest star. And
basically I said Omar Gooding Junior, and he went off.

(37:03):
He went crazy, and because I hired him before for
a movie I did like twenty eleven twenty twelve percentage.
I did a movie with Queen Latif and shot Kim,
shot the Queen the TV and shot him and we
hired him. So in my segment of my show, I'm like, yo,
it's for the B class black actor, because you got
to sit here and wait for somebody to call you
for a part, or if they do, who says you're

(37:25):
going to get the part? Like just sitting around and waiting.
And I was actually talking to Rich Paul and he
was like, I'm should have came up with a network
by now, all came together, you know what I'm saying.
But I basically was telling y'all telling him saying what
I'm telling y'all now. And I called him Omar Gooding
Junior and he just went crazy. He was like, how
the fucking mind junior? When Cuba is the junior, you

(37:47):
disrespect him. You don't call a man out his name, this,
that and the third. So I'm like, I got him
on this page. I said, you go look at the dates.
I said, my bad, bro, I didn't mean to offend you. No,
no problem now that Then he started doing dish records
and I was like his.

Speaker 8 (38:01):
Rappit wasn't bad though, that wasn't that bad, all right.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
I put it on a pair. I said, this type high.
I brote that on this comments. I'm like, yo, I
don't want no smoke, bro, this die this is dope.
So did another one. I'm like, ill, I bet so
I know how much you cost? Bro? You know what
I'm saying. So I had a mutual friend. I was like, yo,
when you I haven't used him poison a while, how

(38:24):
much are you booking for you? Like, when I need
a movie scene, I pay him twelve hundred, said, but
I got three. I got three thousand for this. And
that's how that went because he went and stopped doing records.
And I already said I didn't want to problem.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
And you said, I'm gonna come up with a fake movie.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, fike script, so you have to.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Yeah. But what happened is he signed a paperwork. And
so let's just say I paid every three. I gave
him three thousand dollars because I know he wouldn't say
no because he gets twelve hundred. So I said three thousand.
His flight was seven eight hundred, and so let's just
say I spent five that, so once he signed up paperwork,

(39:02):
I'm getting ten times that for the episode, so I win.
I spent five, but I made forty five off of gotcha,
off of his stupidity for me telling you I don't
want no problem with you, but you won't stop. So
now I'm gonna give you five and make forty five
and this content.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
At the same time, he was really another room watching
and directed.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
I wasn't enough room, but I had a ring camera
up around the corner at one of my cribs watching.

Speaker 13 (39:28):
The whole old time, and he was to say that
he was gonna take legal action. Is that possible or like?
Because what documents did you have him sign it?

Speaker 12 (39:34):
Like whatever?

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Adam. So basically my man who actually didn't shine, my
man Babi one of my production companies, partners of one
of my production companies. We basically had him sign everything,
and what he was trying to say was gonna take
legal action about everything was cool but the dressing room.
But he didn't realize what he signed was once you
walk in, we could use security for his ring footage,

(39:55):
everything that we wanted to use once you walked in
the building, any camera we wanted to use. And what
I did was he had we get him fifteen hundred
dollars up front, and when he came, I made sure
the other fifteen hundred was in tens and files so
it looked like he got a lot of money. So
when he gave him, he gave him to not he
was I knew he would just signing anything, because you know,

(40:19):
when it looked for us, when it looked like it's
a lot, So we paid him like tens and five,
so it looked like he had twenty thousand when the
fifteen hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I don't know why you waited so long to do
to kill a comedy show. And I don't know why
you not on stage, damn.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Funny exactly now, I just don't be bothering people. And
then I'd be like, YO, leave me alone because I
know where I could go with it. And this is what.

Speaker 8 (40:45):
Happens now, tell us about this comedy show.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Thanks thanks for even bringing that up. We got to
kill a comedy show. Today is tonight at the Beacon Theater.
Mo Man Johnny Shipes in the building. He's the one
that put everything together. D Ray's going to be there.
J I was gonna be a Tony rock Corey come yeah. Sorry,
I don't know if y'all still be Will Mills and

(41:11):
Ray Ray so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So performers performing
is well. Definitely, y'all are all welcome to come. I
don't know what you guys are doing, but y'all more
than welcome to come. But we actually put that together
because I did. I got a cameo in the movie
Happy Gilmore too.

Speaker 8 (41:30):
Yeah yeah, yeah, come about so yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Joe Vessey, he's a comedian and writes with Adam saying
he's a big fan. He's the one that kind of
got us in the movie. I'm saying, this is my
man too. And he has a stand up and he
wants me to put it out. I guess he's not
going through the right channels. And I'm like, Johnny, like
I said, we're gonna put that out, but he was like,
let's just do a whole comedy show. We got out back.

(41:53):
They sponsored. That's how going, so we're gonna go on
tour with it. That's that easy bash out to Joe
VESI for even giving me that there to want to
do it.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Oh's the Joe, what what made you want to get
into comedy now, because you've always been for the funny
right always.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
I'm being honest. It was Joe Vessi. I'm not even
gonna say and hold you when he said he had
so he has a stand up that's done, and he
just wanted to put it into my lap and say,
Cam do what you could do with him. And I'm like,
he's not on this show because paperwork kind of took
a while, but it was purely when he had a
stand up and I'm like, I'm gonna find a home
for it, but why not put the show together after that?

(42:28):
That's it's really totally Joe Vessi that gave me the
idea to put a comedy show together.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
You know, you know, you know his dad, Peter Beth.
You wanted to best sports commed.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Joe Vessy is like a street basketball playing all that,
so shout to him. That's how I came about Dope,
No more, no less. Man.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
I gotta ask, where did the friction with you and
Dame come from? How did that happen?

Speaker 4 (42:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (42:50):
Dame like he was a manager partner with you one time.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Right, Dame like Damed it a lot for me. You
know what I'm saying, like, like today's going to be
my last day. Dame dashed. That's too yeh, because it's annoying,
you know what I'm saying. So, to be honest with you,
I feel like I got set up. I feel like
Dame had all this, all these problems with me and
never said it and was looking like a reason to
say it. I was in a terrible deal of Epic records.

(43:16):
I grew up with Dame and Rockefeller was up, and
he helped me get out that deal, and then I
actually signed me to Rockefeller. That helped me get my
group on. Rockefeller put out a platinum album that Dipomats
was born. It was a great it was great, and
he did a lot for me. So I always attribute
that not only I knew this is I was like

(43:36):
ten eleven years old, you know what I'm saying, And
when Rockefeller fell apart, he's still my man. He's on
my man last year. I don't you know what I'm saying.
He's been my man this whole time. But to me,
it's like a setup because no matter what, so publicly,
I've been giving this man props for twenty five years
and it hasn't been a smooth twenty five years. But

(43:58):
that's always been my friend. I've never ran to the
internet and talked about you, whether we's having good time,
bad time, whatever. What I do do over the years
just take breaks from you. Where I say that, it's
like I didn't call Hi dat for a minute. I
call him next year, this, that and the third. And
when he started talking about me on different on different podcasts,
I'm like, bro, what is the pH about? But he

(44:20):
was guess he was saying, Kim is not a man.
He ain't calling me this time. Yo, Bro, everybody's not
built for your personality. I am. I just know how
to take breaks from you from time to time because
I know your personality now. I don't want to deal with
it right now. But for him to go to the
internet start talking about me, it was like, really, this
is what the we're doing. And when I seen that,

(44:43):
I was like, this is crazy. He kept doing it,
kept doing different interview Yo, Kim, this is Kim, that
cam this, and I'm like, and then he's talked about
The last thing was he said I didn't promote nothing.
We're supposed to go partners on with Anna Rup the
movie and we did an album with a track and
he said I didn't promoted, and I finally gave feedback
on why I didn't promoted. I'm like, I didn't want

(45:05):
to be in it. You know what I'm saying, No disrespect,
but that's how it happened. From their avalanche, He's just
crazy started going to create Kim. That's Kim. That Kim
is saving point where it's like, bro, now you stretching
the truth. You're lying about a few things, but that's
where it all started from for me, this and interrupt.
But to me, if you want to just my art

(45:27):
on my movies or my music or whatever, cool you
start getting personal and start taking mad personally. I'm like,
we know too much about each other to be doing
personal cause this could get nasty because I know a
lot about you, you know a lot about me, and
I'm mad funny, like I don't want to rag down
my men on the internet, especially like that's I'm talking mom,

(45:49):
But who the fuck is you around to come out
with a passion teeth like you know what I'm saying, Like,
wouldn't that would let you do that?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Because you're my man?

Speaker 4 (45:56):
I texted him, I'm like, yo, bro, whoever you're around
they you're not run no realize because they would not
let you come on the camera like that. And that's
kind of how it started. When I just it just
got personal and it was to the point where I'm like, yo, listen, man,
this kind of this could get nasty. And I spoke

(46:16):
to Daniel. I know Daniel was up here with him.
Daniel cool with me too, and so he kind of
mediated it and he was like, yo, this is doing
a good look for halling YadA yah yah ya YadA.
I was like, cool, I said, listen, it was a Thursday.
He said. Look, I said, listen, I got something coming
out tomorrow. It's already done. If you tell him, listen,

(46:37):
this is coming out tomorrow. But I won't say nothing
else about him on the internet.

Speaker 10 (46:42):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
He say, it's cool, He said, cool, he's still talking
about me on the internet yesterday right now.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (46:50):
Compos on Part fifteen exactly.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
And it was like, bro, I thought we were going
to talk about each other. Cool, it ain't no problem.
But for me to be honest with you, I was
tapped out when an issue a three hundred million dollar lawsuit.
And then he tells Daniel to tell me, You'll tell
Kim to give me a million dollars and we might
let it all go away. I'm like, you're trying to
quiet his story, Like, what are you talking about? Send

(47:17):
you a million off the three hundred million. I'm not
sending you a million dollars.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
I'm glad he didn't take your show off the BOM
because he could.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Yeah, that's that's the point, like to me, and something
disappointing because I looked up to him. You know what
I'm saying, And I'm to a some point where I
don't wish them wealth, health and success, but I can't
no more because like you said, the King compone, know
that you are the point where you said, as long
as your name saying the algorithm, even if it takes
beefing with your man to be in the algorithm, that's
where you add in life. And I'm like, I see

(47:49):
why I need to be curving. You gotta think about
this not just artists. If you sit there and think
about the artists that he helped and put on, it's phenomenal.
You sit there and thinking about Kevin Hard and jay
Z and Kanye On myself or whoever nobody with you,
is it? The artist is that you? You know what
I'm saying, not only that yet day one, don't you?
So I don't mean this in a bad way because

(48:09):
I know you're gonna take this and this would be
like last another three four months for him. You know,
he'll take a spend at this kid Da da da,
and then I'll be seeing, like to me, bro, you
try to to fame my character to where it's like,
for what money? Kim's a civilian, all right, Dame whatever,
I'm a civilian. We tried to give you a million
dollars last year when you was in the news for

(48:32):
owing eight hundred thousand dollars. We Mason, Mason Dame don't
even got a good relationship. They don't even with each other.
But Mace felt bad and he's like, Kim, you gonna
spend five hundred thousand, five hundred thousand just so we
just don't got no debt. I'm like, I don't know.
I'll do it, but I don't really know if we're
gonna make our money back, but for the for the
sake of Dame, yeah, I'll do it. And then when

(48:52):
this didn't go through, we suckers because you want to
wait on young Boy NBA or Drake or whatever other
deal you had. We tried to give you a million
dollars just to clear get debt up, and you basically
gamble yourself out waiting on more money.

Speaker 13 (49:07):
When you talk about Harlem, I know you mentioned earlier
you and Jim's relationship not being the same. That's not
like we're never going to get to see that sit
down Conbo reunion like anything at all.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
I don't know. I mean, like I said, I just
think they we're in two different spaces in life, and
I mean I don't wishing well and I don't mean
Juels and everybody that was part of what we did.
I think it's a great movement, but sometimes things just
come to on end. So I'm not I wouldn't never
say never, but it doesn't look like it's in the
near future. But I do wish them brothers.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
Well, all right, Well, the Killer Cam comedy show is
going down tonight, and how could people order the Pink Horsepower.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
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to the new website. Because it's a new website. I
don't know off the top, but it directs you to
the website. So pink hyphen horsepower dot net for the
last thing. For the last thing, I'll say in this
not one hundred percent closed complex con if anybody's gonna
be out there in Vegas coming up me and sexy right,

(50:05):
they doing the drop of horsepower and whatever she got,
I don't want to say the wrong name, but we're
gonna package it together. We're gonna do a special drop
for her sex pill for women. So so we'll try
and send you something because she has something for women,
I got something for men, and then you can take
sexy resistant sense. Yeah, well then you have it.

Speaker 8 (50:23):
It's Cameron breakfast again, get a bunch of donkeys.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
That is why, Charlamagne, we live a life where we
are tongue based on Kolie made a thing.

Speaker 10 (50:35):
We never say anything.

Speaker 7 (50:42):
On the breakfast club. In the word of Charlemagne, the God,
he's a donkey.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Ah man, Charlemagne, you've given donkey to day to who.

Speaker 8 (50:52):
Now, yes, donkey to day.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Going to a thirty five year old Kentucky woman named
Akisha Johnson. She was a patient at a Kentucky hospital
and she did something that a lot of people think
about doing when the process at the hospital is taking
too long?

Speaker 8 (51:04):
What do you mean, Uncle Shola.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
She did something that a lot of people think about
doing when the process at the hospital is taking too long.

Speaker 8 (51:10):
Well, let's go to WDR. You for the report. Please.

Speaker 17 (51:12):
A woman is under arrest in Louisville after reportedly choking
and assaulting a UFL Hospital nurse. Court records say a
nurse was making her round Saturday afternoon when thirty five
year old Mikeisha Johnson allegedly attacked her.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
Please say.

Speaker 17 (51:27):
Footage of the incident shows Johnson choking the nurse, then
slamming her to the ground, where she reportedly began hitting the.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
Nurse in the face.

Speaker 12 (51:34):
Officer say.

Speaker 17 (51:35):
Johnson claims she was angry at the staff were taking
too long to discharge her. Johnson was charged with assault
of a healthcare provider, want an endangerment, and menacing.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 8 (51:46):
When you're ready to go, you're ready to go. Okay.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
We have all been part of this discharge process from
the hospital in some way, shape or form, whether you've
been the patient or whether you've been waiting with somebody.
And yes, the hospital does drag their feet sometime. Okay,
it is a hurry up and wait, situation. Nothing is
worse when you have to unexpectedly go to the hospital,
like you know, you got to go to the ear,
like something not right with you, or the kids got
a bone out of side gets so you gotta up
and leave the house. And you didn't plan to owe

(52:09):
my god, you be so ready to leave the hospital
once they tell you nothing wrong or they fix what
is wrong. But the hospital do be taken forever. But
just because you think about choking somebody doesn't give you
the right to do it, Okay, especially when this nurse
wasn't doing anything but her job. Nurses out here working
long hours, they're underpaid, they're stressed, and they always put

(52:31):
their own health ever risk just to take care of
our sick asses.

Speaker 8 (52:35):
Okay, they do not deserve to be attacked on the
job full stop.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
But also, if you're trying to speed up the process, Makisha,
the quickest way to slow things down is by physically
attacking the nurse.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Okay, you're definitely not going home now, you're going to
jail now. I'm not here to make excuses for her violence.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Okay, what she did was wrong, but we have to
know something was off with her mentally, right, you gotta
know that there is a lot of things that are
going to push people to the breaking point. In this
day and time that we live in. It's gonna be
a lot of things that are gonna make people snap.
And it's because folks like Makeisha are walking around with
undiagnosed mental illnesses. Okay, a lot of folks out here underpression,

(53:15):
and they don't got no tools, no resources, no coping skills.
They're not going to no therapy, they don't have no
emotional outlets. They just have frustration and nowhere healthy to
put it, and they end up projecting on people the
way that Makisha projected onto this nurse. And that's not
an individual problem. Okay, that just doesn't stand with Makisha,

(53:36):
that's a societal problem. We don't take mental health seriously.
We tell people just demand up or suck it up
or you know, get it.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
What suck it up? You know.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
You best not because I could have tied all of
that in with Kanye too, but I didn't because he's
somebody else that we know is deal with mental health
issues and people be telling him to suck it up.

Speaker 8 (53:59):
He did it early. But we tell people to man
up and get over it or just deal with it.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Meanwhile, people out here exploding over little things, okay, and
others have to pay the price like that poor nurse.

Speaker 8 (54:11):
So we need to get people help, get them therapy.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
I personally don't believe this young woman, Makisha Johnson needs
to be in handcuffs, but she does deserve to get
the credit, uh today for being stupid, So give her the.

Speaker 8 (54:24):
Biggest he huh.

Speaker 14 (54:29):
Yes yo.

Speaker 15 (54:29):
And this man said, suck it up and people exploding
over little things?

Speaker 6 (54:37):
Right, this was so much gay intention.

Speaker 8 (54:40):
Oh my god, no, al.

Speaker 9 (54:48):
Over more thing.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
Everybody is dj Envy, Jesse, Larian Shawam and the God.
We are the breakfast Club Lawla Roses here as well.

Speaker 8 (54:56):
We got a special guest in the Beloty. Yes, indeed,
Chris gott He told.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Me many thank you.

Speaker 8 (55:03):
House everything.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Man. I'm blessed, you know, just taking it one day
at a time from everything, you know. But everything's going great.
Got a lot of positive stuff happening, and that's why
I'm here.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
All right, if you don't mind, I want to go
back a little bit for people that show know who
Chris Gotti is.

Speaker 8 (55:18):
Of course Irv Gotty's brother. Yes, every got his big brother.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
Yes for Queens, New York Killas and you guys been
in the industry for a while, and you guys, both
of y'all.

Speaker 8 (55:28):
Founded Murder Inc.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
Most people only hear IRV whe thinking about Murder Ink,
but you were kind of the silent guy behind everything.

Speaker 8 (55:35):
So talk about how Murder Inc. Or the ink was founded.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
It's murdered Ink. We hated that we had to change
that name. That was Russell Simmons and Lee or that,
and it came to us and being Chaves and say
put murder to bed because we was doing with the
figs and everything.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
So Murder Inc.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Was founded because Irv wanted to be the biggest producer
in the world. I helped make him that. They thought
Earth came up, We're like, I'm gonna start a recordeting.
He didn't start a label. He just wanted to be
the biggest producer in the game. And that's what happened.
And because that happened, Tom Matola, Dave nk Fist and
over his Sony said we want to give you a
record deal. They told us they wanted to buy four beats.

(56:13):
At the time were selling beats for two hundred and
fifty thousand tracks. So that's a million hours. I'm like,
let's go get that. We met up at Justin's the restaurant,
you know, did the restaurant, were talking, He's like, Tommy
wants to give you a deal, not he doesn't want
to buy beats, And to our surprise, he pulls a
contract out and look at it, or if you looked
at it, and he threw it right back at him,

(56:34):
so you SERI sent it to our lawyer.

Speaker 16 (56:36):
So that's really the bird form merd Inc. And and
we didn't have a name.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
We just came up with a bunch of things. DJ
Clues doing the mixtape, John's doing a feature, and inside
of that feature, we had a bunch of names we
had thought of, like Lockdown Records. He says it in
his verses on the features on the on the mixtape,
and that's kind of where we was at. And then
Earl was watching Arts and Entertainment one day, these Gangs

(57:01):
the Week and he sees Murder Inc. On the screen
and it's the notorious Murder Inc. Which was the Italian
guys that was actually making hits.

Speaker 10 (57:08):
Yeah, that was doing hits on people in Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Yeah, it's luckily Giano Alfred Anastasia and those guys, and
the narrator of that show was like the notorious murder
Rink and they made hits early crazy. He went crazy.
He called everybody. I got the name. But that's why
when you ask that question, how did you start? And
if the co founders, that's the co founder. I helped

(57:33):
make all of the music with them, with all the
the producers, and I just took care of the business
and I took care of my.

Speaker 10 (57:38):
Little brother, and Jiao was always the first artist.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Another misconception, Joa was already signed Murder Death Jam. So
his first album Vinevenda Vicci, it's on Death Jam. We
just get the deal, but he already signed his deal.
Oh wow wow, Yeah, people don't know that. So we
had to go basically back to Leon and say that's
our artists, and then we had to pay for it
to get them back to Murder Inn.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
How have to pay a couple of million dollars damn.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah, look, we had to pay for a Shanti. She
would signed the a Jam Records, which is a shoutout
Mario Baasa. Mary was like an uncle and he has
a shanty. He wanted us to do records for a
shanty on his label.

Speaker 8 (58:17):
We had a little.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Independent label and a shanty. He was there with him
and IRV didn't really think about doing anything. Would hit
me with the tunnel vision like stay focused, we get
money with John Rod. I'm like, yo, she could write
she's dope. And what break that broke that ice was
Fat Joe. He caught me up because he's doing a

(58:39):
big pun album and he says, I need that pun.
I need an artist to do an R and B
artist on the hook. I said, I got one. He
said you do.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
I was like yeah.

Speaker 16 (58:51):
I called her up. She drove right to the studio pendit.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Joe's like, yo, she's dope, I said, I tell her,
I said, and that's he told IRV And I said
what artists?

Speaker 16 (59:03):
And he called me up right after What artists you're
talking about?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Like my R and B artist? And it was a shanty.
He said what artists and Earth called me right after that.
I said, bring it to bring it back up. And
that's really how we got a shanty. But Irv was
my little brother. I raised him. He listened to me
up to a certain point. After that point, I had
to get someone else to so I would send messages
through all types of people to tell him do something,

(59:26):
to get it done. And that's what Joe did for me.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
I'm do when I asked you talk about he doesn't listen.
When got to his later life, they said he was
having health problems. Yeah, they said nobody could talk to
Earth about talking to him constantly. They said he wouldn't
change his diet, he wouldn't change his thing, and they
said nobody could.

Speaker 10 (59:41):
Get through to him. Why do you think that that
was for Earth?

Speaker 16 (59:43):
Partially because my pops was hard headed.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
He got it for my dad. So, same exact thing,
going through diabetes, health problems, and my dad was like,
you can't tell me God didn't make this orange and
I can't eat it. You can't you know, this was
really our problem.

Speaker 16 (01:00:01):
And then it's the ignorance of just health was the same.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
He would be like, there's no way you could tell
me I can't eat this food it's good and he
would tell you it's healthy eat and it was trash,
you know, And it was just hard headed. Now when
he had his.

Speaker 16 (01:00:17):
First stroke, he had two strokes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
The first stroke basically he was I man, I didn't
think he was gonna be here for after that one
he was I went to the hospital as soon as
I heard, I flew right to l a shout out BJ.
BJ found him, Yeah, you know, BJ call us picked
him up, got him to the hospital. Or when he
came round. He was like, I don't want to go
to the hospital and take me to the hospital. I'm
gonna take my mads now. And BJ's ain't no, he said,

(01:00:42):
so stand up and he couldn't. He stood up and
fell back down and know you're going to the hospital.
Took him to the hospital. I didn't know he's gonna
get past that one, and he flew out there. He
was there for I was there for a month and
a half in the hospital, staying with him when he
took about two weeks before he actually came back and
was conscious. But those first two weeks, I don't think

(01:01:02):
it's gonna make it. I always credit I said, BJ
gave us another year basically before the next one. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
So somebody told me that was a sense of acceptance
that he had, and he would say he would say
things like I'm going I'm going to see popping and
I'm gonna be a popular.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Yeah, yeah, he wrote. If you've seen his Graham, and
I would always when I seen it, I'll call him, Like,
you stop talking like that. I don't believe in calling
off for death like that. You really have a death wish.
I was like, you stop talking, You'll see him when
it's your time. Well, I used to say, EF, you
used to feel like he's God. Probably at one point
when we was at the height of murdering, he probably

(01:01:37):
felt like he was the alpha an omega at one point.

Speaker 10 (01:01:41):
You think he knew when he sold part of his catalog, right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Yeah, No, he sold it all. Well, hear on fifty
percent of the masters. We had a fifty to fifty,
so we had fifty sold it, did it? It was
a three hundred million dollars deal, a hundred in cash,
two hundred for movies and TV products projects.

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Do you think he knew at that time to set
his kids up to be like, if something does happen,
every kid to have that. Do you think that was
the mentality.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Irvs one hundred percent family. So yeah, that's definitely part
of it, and it's also part of health. You know,
just want to make sure, like you said, things, is
there for somebody no matter what. Because IRV accepted death,
he always he would always accept death if that was
a consequence whatever it is. We both do like, I
don't ever look at the consequence of whatever it is, right,

(01:02:27):
the preciousness of life, think about that like we're here
for such a short amount of times, but we never
thought or thought about anything like that. Irv's no different
And that's why when he got sick and he would
tell me like, this is what it is, this is
what it is. But he didn't try to prevent it.
And no one talks mortality, especially when you're young. But

(01:02:50):
it's coming, and we don't know when that's the reality too.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
We don't have it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
No one knows that expiration day.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
How did you navigate with IRV having problems with all
of your friends, Like one time IRV was not messed
with whole. Then it was Fat Joe, then it was DMX,
then it was Nas, Like, how did you navigate that
part of it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Because families fight. IRV made a ton of mistakes if
he was here, like here or not, I'm going to
always speak the reality of what it was. IRV made
a lot of mistakes. For instance, with jay Z Nas,
they beefing. IRV made super ugly. You know, he produced
that record. Correct to go after that and talk to

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Jay Z and say, I'm yo, I'm gonna sign nas
what you think? Of course, wearing Baseline studios? What did
before IRV spoke? I said, will, I'll give you the
PG version, But I told him whatever you want to do,
I'm with you.

Speaker 16 (01:03:48):
And then IRV was like, yo, it's good business.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
And he's telling him.

Speaker 16 (01:03:52):
It's like, Yo, are you crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
You can't tell your man you want to work with
his enemy like that, and Irv's like, nah, it's just on.
Jay was like, you know, he was asking him, does
he have real beef with with him? He said, nah,
it's just like music. But Jay's keeping it cordial, like
to see where Irv's going with j plays chess. He's
not playing like he wants to see what you're going
to say. And IRV as soon as Jay said it's

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not beef like that, he turned to me. He said,
I told you, I told you, And Jay looking at
me like, yo, is he serious? And I was like, wow,
he's crazy, and nah, Steve stout Steve Stout shout out
Steve Man. But the commissioners, he's he's in that day.
He was a real hands on guy. He's the one

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that brought the deal to us and IRV was like,
you serious, we could get nas Like we didn't think
we could get that, and he was like, yeah, we
made the record the pledge NOAJ pledging allegiance to murder ring.

Speaker 8 (01:04:52):
Think about that.

Speaker 16 (01:04:53):
He's on the records pledging allegiance to.

Speaker 8 (01:04:55):
Murder ring and the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Stout seeing future. In my opinion, and again to his credit,
again I'm not knocking Stout. This dude is brilling. In
the book of hip hop, he has to use one
of the most iconic people in that book. The end
of the day, he's seen the future. What's the future?
Come on, murder ring, We're murdering, what's the future? It's
fifty he's saying it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
He knew it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
He knew it.

Speaker 16 (01:05:20):
Jall had a sneaker deal with with Steve Reebok.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
We're on a private plane flying the designing everything in
the in the you know, in the plane, and then
he's seen the future and pulled everything and switch it.

Speaker 16 (01:05:33):
Now Gun he got his sneaker deal.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Jay Z got a sneaker deal. You understand what Reebok?
And again he knew he he seen something and understood
and made the pivot as a businessman, I respected of question.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Why was as a friend It's a little question for
That's what I'm saying. Why was Jay upset with HERV
but not Steve and Steve present of the deal?

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Well, Steve was also remembering Steve was also part of
a lot of it. That's why Damon always has obef
with Steve those of that. Steve was funneling a lot
of deals with Jay and then seeing Jay again pulled
that way instead of going through Dame and dealing with
the you know that side of it. I understand that
they would have took a bullet fit Jay. You're kidding
me in that day that you're kidding me. It's not

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even close.

Speaker 10 (01:06:16):
It's like it's that's what makes me mad with that situation.
I say, how do you feel like that situation?

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
I spoke to Jay about that before one time. I
told him and then I just left it a loone
after that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
How do you feel it when you see it play out?
Because you see how close they were, you were on tours,
you were in studio.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
There's a lot of stuff that's personal again inside of
a family that we wouldn't know that I don't know
that's I'll leave it there, and then you gotta let
families be what they are because of what it is.
I respect both of them to the highest level.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
At the end of the day, I leave it alone.

Speaker 8 (01:06:46):
And didn't Jay get back.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
I think I think I heard you tell a story
about how when j same line again, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Yeah, the same line, because it was like when when
Jay told him that it wasn't really more it wasn't
like physical beef. It was more lyrical. And IRV went
crazy like I told you and any but Jay's looking
at him like you more man, you can't be like serious,
like but left it alone. Chest he's playing chess. And
then right after that, Jay went and did a tour
with fifty cents. They got the gun it sneaker, he

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has his remember he had his like Gucci. Yes, that's
all college. And they went out on the tour and
then irv Erv sat there and he's like, yeah, I
just went out and he said, yeah it was good
business because IRV told Jay it would be good business
to do this. This is gonna be good business. Somebody
had not But what he's not realizing and IRV knew
it after the fact, you know, hindsight is twenty twenty.

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He realized that was one of his biggest mistakes, which
it took a lot to fix that, but they did.

Speaker 8 (01:07:46):
They finally did fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Oh yeah, we had multiple conversations, but you know it
wasn't never the same. What's that record? And Jay says,
got to consult Earth, got of y'all heads got to roll, right,
That's a fact. Jay took that off every forward record.
Think about how serious that is that he said, no,
I don't want to hear that no more. You can't

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get that unless you have the old original. It's bleeded out.
It's bleeded out. It's called remastering. Baby, Yeah, gone does
not exist.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Go get that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Go get that record and see if you could hear it.
Go to Apple Music and see if you hear it.
I'm bad with titles as much as I I'm terrible
with titles and names and stuff. I don't remember the title.
It's on the streets, is watching.

Speaker 8 (01:08:35):
Us the customer home.

Speaker 16 (01:08:36):
Jay used to sit in my office literally to wait
to talk to Earth.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
That's how deep that was. And when he come in,
they go into it. But would help him with all
types of business. I did thoughts. He respected HER's brain.
I'll leave it there now.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
The fat Jolt thing you can never, I'm sorry, the
fat Joe thing you could because fat Joe and Earth
was like, we fixed that.

Speaker 16 (01:08:58):
Y'all fixed that with Joe and Earth again, never the same.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
He was at my man Jar's funeral, and you know,
I told Joe again, my brother's keeper. I told Joe,
you messed up, Broy and I went at Joe and
told him, and he's like he understood. We was at
say Let's actually and uh, I was having a meeting
with my niece and saint from Innscote Records, and I

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didn't want to go and deal with this right now.
And my other dude, Big Joe, kept coming, said yo.
In fact, Joe's over come on, come on. I said,
I don't want to talk right now. He forced me
to talk, so I said, all right, let me go
tell it. And when I went to Back Days with Rich,
of course, I Rich and Joe and I told him,
I said, you can't shout out my brother is a sucker,
and then whisper, I'm sorry, that's a sucker move. And

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I told him that. You know, I asked them all
kind of crazy questions because that's just me. It's like,
was you messing with Ashanti? Is that your girl? You
found her because of us? What are you doing interfering
they had a relationship. What are you doing? I said,
And listen to I promise you go listen to anything.
All EARV did was yell how much he loved her.

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And the way he's talking about everything you could tell
as a man he loved that woman. He was heartbroken.

Speaker 16 (01:10:17):
But I said, how do you tell me you love
this girl and you out with everybody else?

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
That don't make no sense. He kept getting caught with like, yo,
what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
But that's her, that is her. He one of his
cake and eat it too. And that's the reality of
that whole thing. But it's crazy, Like every time I say,
just listen, everyone talks all crazy. Just listen to what
he's saying. Listen to the words. Don't just hear his
he's speaking loud. Will Lorenzos, we speak loud. But at
the end of the day, you listen to what he's
really saying. And IRV is not a liar. He is

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telling you the truth about her, about him. I was
their counsel, meaning when they would fight, I'm over the
Four Seasons with IRV and I at the rich Calton
with a shine talking about what did he say? What
did she say?

Speaker 10 (01:10:59):
Trying to keep them cool.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
I never took Earth's side while Earth was here, never,
So all I said is I'm not gonna lie. Now.
I'm not gonna talk about nothing. But I'm not gonna
lie either, Like, you can't ask me to do that.
He's not here no more. He can't even say that.
If I hear something wrong, I will correct you. But
that's it. That's just for respect for my brother. But

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I never Earth hated that. I never took inside with him,
hated it like that was something I had to deal
with him. And I'm like, yo, that's your relationship. You know,
that's your business. This is over here. He was like,
she didn't come to the trail, and I said she
was at the tild Yeah, cause Darcell called her. I said,
I called her. I called her and said you should

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be there, and she showed up. What more do you want?
That's the fact.

Speaker 12 (01:11:47):
Have you and a chance been able to talk since everything?

Speaker 13 (01:11:49):
Cause I saw that you were upset with her when
she sat down with Angie Martinez and she said that, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Was upset cause we haven't spoke in person after Earth's passing.
Imagine that, and I promise you I'm the reason she
was murdering more. HERB made the records, but HERB would
have never got to that point. If I don't do
what I did. I used to fly up to Jersey
giving her music to make record after record.

Speaker 16 (01:12:13):
If I don't put her on the punch, it never happens.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
And I did that. She knows it for her not
to call me after ERR's passage, she texts me that
don't feel right. Her mother Tina, that don't feel right.
You understand, like I did everything for them, never did
I did one thing in return. I'm not gonna sit

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here with sugar coat nothing. And that's why I felt
the way. And then when I see it, I'm like, nah,
that's not cool. You know, there's so much details of
the murdering history that we don't know or the public
doesn't know. Ashanti, we didn't have her signed and we
put fool shout yeah, number one record in the country,
and she's not signed. You know how much it costs

(01:12:58):
us to get her from that little Ajam Records five
million dollars out of our pife five because we got
to hit record.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
We gotta hit record on her.

Speaker 16 (01:13:06):
So now he's the numbers up five million.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
What Madejoroe put the record out before?

Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
She was nerv HERV.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Moves with his heart. Leo said, I'm not gonna pay
for nothing. I was like, were going, it's timing. You know,
success is number one reason for success is timing. She
knows we had to pay that money. But look, IRV said, loyalty.
He figured that's what hurt him. See, this is the
plot that hurt him. He's thinking, she's gonna be loyal

(01:13:35):
with me on just business things and stuff and getting
Then it turned into relationship too, because in that moment
he wasn't messing with her yet. He just seen a
talented young girl and that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
I didn't want to ask you about the funeral because
because whole came to the funeral.

Speaker 8 (01:13:52):
Yes, didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
I thought she did not?

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
She sent some flowers.

Speaker 8 (01:13:56):
Okay, what about Joe that Joe did not?

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
His father His father passed the same time.

Speaker 8 (01:14:03):
Okay, got you, got you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Joe came late. Actually, Joe was there late. He left
his father's and got to us late. I've seen him
after at the end, when it was almost over. He
did get there, sorry, Joe, Yeah, he wasn't in the
beginning though he got you. Yeah, I was on.

Speaker 13 (01:14:18):
Actually he mentioned the flowers, and I know she posted
a statement online did that. I know you said that
you want to talk in person, but like, did that
provide any sort of comfort for you guys in that moment?
Just having things show up there from her?

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
I don't know how to answer that. Really, It's like,
I mean, I got sick over her man.

Speaker 16 (01:14:38):
I got sick physically after he literally in the hospital, Like,
and they what is it? Stress? What's the stress? It's
my brother, he's here right now. Like, but I got
through it. I have to, Like I said, so when
you say that with the flowers.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
It's a good gesture. It's a good gesture. I won't
go further than that. And I don't want to be
disrespectful to her because she probably thinks it's good. But
she should know better that she had to talk to
me physically. Actually, she should come see me physically. I
love Ashanti, you know what I'm saying. That's little that's
like little sister for real, for real. We took care

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of her in every sense of your imagination. She confessed
me one day afterwards, and she thanked me for everything
we did for her because now she's out there by
herself and she's getting all types of indecent proposals. Let's
leave it to that, right, because that's what this industry is.
Let's not make any sugar coating about it. It's an

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attractive young lady. She wants to make music. What could
you do with this? You want that beat? Okay, let's
go over here. And she told me. She told me,
and she was like, thank you. She thanked me for
always taking care of it. On versus, you know she's waiting,
he shot out, Nelly. I have no problem with these
nothing with Nelly, But on versus. The day of versus,

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he pulls up and I said, what do you want
to do? Ask them like she come up and you
ask her, what do you want to do?

Speaker 8 (01:16:11):
I'll roll this off the stage.

Speaker 16 (01:16:13):
She said, no, I'll give you the sign if there's
a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
But that's the day they got back together. That's why
you don't get in the middle of relationships. It's different.

Speaker 8 (01:16:23):
That's why I never got any nerve and herd together.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
I never did.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
I just tried to keep it cool with them and
keep the business moving. I could have swell.

Speaker 6 (01:16:30):
It was reported that she went to the funeral.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Okay, so she just sent They lied. They did put
a report that she was They lied again. She probably
got a good publish this or something she had.

Speaker 13 (01:16:40):
Said that she tried to There was an olive branch
or whatever that she tried to extend or was extended,
but it wasn't received.

Speaker 12 (01:16:46):
Well, so you think that that's why she kind of text.

Speaker 8 (01:16:48):
Me and she didn't text me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
If I show you the date she texted me slate,
you understand he's gone already, So just put this in
there without me going dB, he's gone, and then I
get a text after he's gone a couple of days.
She got my number.

Speaker 8 (01:17:04):
She could like I appreciated the call.

Speaker 16 (01:17:06):
I would appreciated a visit.

Speaker 8 (01:17:07):
Yeah, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
It's like I said, we did a lot, you know.
And she could say whatever she wants about a relationship.
She she whatever, but she can't lie about her career.
Who can Who can sit there and say she did
something more than what it is?

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Yeah, she wrote the records with him. She hated every
hit record.

Speaker 8 (01:17:27):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
So what if we listen to her, does she become
a shaanty? That's the facts for baby baby. She hated that.

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
Too many babies.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
It's one of my favorite records ear winning the Booth
and Soda. You gotta sing like this, he said, you
gotta feel like you you high. You don't get high.
That's why you don't know what it is.

Speaker 8 (01:17:47):
That's what he told her.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
And he said, you gotta be strung out on a
man that way. And he's so, I don't want to
hear it pitch perfect. I said, I'd stupid gott he
sing it like that, and she did. See I give
credit for the listening. A producer has to be able
to produce or else you just the beat maker, right,

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and you're leaving it in the hands of an artist.
And then that's the reality. If you trust that producer,
which they trusted her, they was able to get through
and make those changes. She compromised her own belief for his,
which is to her credit. But that's the that's the
beauty of a producer, and that's to me. Irv is
a producer for real, for real.

Speaker 8 (01:18:33):
Well, thank you for joining us this morning. Good conversation.

Speaker 16 (01:18:36):
That's right, I got to talk about one more thing
before we get off.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
I got a movie. I'm a filmmaker. Now, nice bawling.
I got Lance Stevenson is my lead. Safari Trey Cheney,
shout out to Chey. He's the lead.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
He's the lead.

Speaker 16 (01:18:54):
Not only is the lead, but he made an incredible soundtrack.
Lan Stephen is the black drake.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
He's a black drake. I promise you. He's singing and
rapping on the songs. And I couldn't believe I was
gonna just make one or two songs for the movie.
Why again, I asked, But you gotta come in right.

Speaker 8 (01:19:16):
Oh, they say he was in the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
He's in the movie, but he didn't come to the studio.
Got you got you, you gotta come.

Speaker 8 (01:19:22):
That's probably.

Speaker 14 (01:19:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
I'm gonna since you said, shout out to Safari, go
watch this out on.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
Ball.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
No, it's it's it's based off of an Alfred Hitchcock
movie called daland for Murder. The way the plot twist is,
we just put the culture for today with people like us,
you know what I'm saying, And we're doing it for
the black and brown. So I'm not Latin, but I
do Latin with my partner Don de narrow Man. We

(01:19:54):
just finished Spanish Fly, a crazy movie, a comedy, you
know what I'm saying. So we got we out at all.

Speaker 8 (01:20:00):
I'm not Spanish man either, he said, he not, but
I'm not Spanish.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
I got a partner. Thats Cuban and he's my partner.
He does all the Latin side for me, but I,
you know, support him with everything he's doing. You know,
it's funny because on my Wikipedia and someone put down
there because people.

Speaker 16 (01:20:15):
Could add stuff people.

Speaker 8 (01:20:18):
He said, he does mine too all the time. He
caught me a gardener mind and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
I'm Dominican, so I'm.

Speaker 8 (01:20:29):
It's the breakfast club. Good morning.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:20:33):
That Charla Man. You've got a positive note positive notice
simply this. We cannot give what we do not have. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
We cannot bring peace to the world if we ourselves
are not peaceful. We cannot bring love to the world
if we ourselves are not loving. So be the change
you want to see on this planet. People, have a
great day.

Speaker 8 (01:20:52):
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 7 (01:20:58):
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