The Breakfast Club BEST OF(NORE, Will Packer, Tony Baker Interview. Would You Do Jail Time For Your Mom Topic)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You, guys, this is history what you've done. What show
you guys should throw a platform that includes.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Club This Morning, Breakfast Cups, DJ Vy, every playing by record.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I've made it just hilarious. She'll stand up a god
made you think they can controversial questions to play this part?
I like thanks Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Telling. I'm telling what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Call of yo.

Speaker 5 (00:29):
This is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred and five five
one o five one. We want to hear from you
on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hello. Who's this?

Speaker 6 (00:40):
Yoda's Malik from Chicago. Now, I just wanted to like
spread some positivity. Man. A few months ago I lost
my job but whatnot? And recently I started a new business.
I lost a lot of weight, like fifty sixty pounds. Okay, yeah,
it ain't going good man.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh I love to hear that, brother, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (00:59):
We definitely.

Speaker 8 (01:00):
I was wondering if I could spend a quick six
thing for y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, listen, why do we need that in all lives? Please?
Now you should be talking about your new business that
you just started.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
What are you about the ramp to do with the business?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, okay, let's let's hear.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
It all right.

Speaker 8 (01:18):
Yeah, my head is hard. I gotta stick and now game,
I need a break. I rolled the ape. I feel
an ape. I get the Tyler Nlin. I'm hearing pops
like I'm Seana Marlin and y'all was backing for my food.
Come me broken down while beg your apartment Trump on
the carpet. We was eight deep, three better apartment. I
told my teacher that I ain't eat. I'm really starving.
My uncle told me I should make peace with it.
But I'm hearing everybody ain't me and they can't be.

(01:42):
I got a new connection. Hold up, I'm getting work done.
You ain't talking new reflection. I'm in a broute with
my brothers. We had in one direction. I hit her once.
I remember she in my recollection. She wanted him, but
I got her another inter section. She wanted to know
how I'm constantly winning best and I don't make wages.

Speaker 9 (01:58):
They be good.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
They better get what businesses that wait a minute, look
stealing apes and all that business.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
I got a content creation business, so I really just
making a bunch of contant videos or what artist?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
So it worked out for me.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
What's funny? To me, is it sounds like you passed
the phone to somebody regular joke?

Speaker 8 (02:22):
That's me for so I just had to turn my artist.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know how I got that? I got your man.

Speaker 9 (02:28):
Keep on keeping on my Instagram real quick.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
You should have did that first.

Speaker 8 (02:32):
My Instagram is underscore Fader. That's Underscore, a D a
H like the magazine, but a H.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
So it's not like the magazine. Know what I'm saying,
Fader like the magazine just not spelt Fader. Hello, who's
this yo?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
What's up?

Speaker 10 (02:52):
Breast Colora?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
What's up? Peace?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
What's up about a truck drop?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
What's going on?

Speaker 11 (02:59):
Brother?

Speaker 12 (02:59):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
You on Envy early in the morning, Paul.

Speaker 10 (03:03):
Hey, chill, chill, chill.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Na.

Speaker 10 (03:04):
Man, Look, I just want to say, man, your boy
is fleshed, your boy is tappy'all still alive. You know
I got robbed, My house got robbed and destroyed last week. Man,
but hey, I'm still alive, still going.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Man, I'm sorry to hear that black man where is
from Broton.

Speaker 10 (03:22):
South Carolina?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
When it was a home invasion?

Speaker 10 (03:24):
Yeah, I mean I wasn't home, so I guess it
was just a regular berguley. But the boy destroyed my
whole apartment. You know, I was saving up.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Man.

Speaker 10 (03:31):
The boy took my cash at my house, took a
few more things.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
But hey, man, at least you're alive, you know what
I'm saying. You know, I was just having a conversation
with one of the homies this morning, actually, me and
Duvall was talking this morning, and I was just like, man,
you know, we we've lost all sense of purpose and
what's important, and nothing's more important than life. And you know,
folks take their own lives and the lives of others
for granted every day. So the fact that you, even

(03:56):
though went through this hard situation, you know that you
can get the material items back, your life can't get
that back.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
So I'm glad you here, brother, absolutely, Hey, that's really
appreciate that.

Speaker 10 (04:03):
Ah, Charlemagne.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Man, can I get a book of course? Come on
now put your hold that's home team. Did you have
the a LARWMO on your house?

Speaker 9 (04:14):
Bro?

Speaker 10 (04:14):
I had no alarm, man, and I just got my
camera removed, so like I didn't have no camera, no alarm,
so damn man, I pretty much got to get it
back in uh with this hard work.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Man.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
That's horrible, brother. All right, brother, I'm sorry for that.

Speaker 13 (04:28):
Hold on again, and I tell everybody out there, don't
get too content. I know a lot of times things
get comfortable and you might forget to put your alarm
on your house.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
You might forget to check the windows and lock the doors.

Speaker 13 (04:37):
Don't get comfortable because when you get comfortable, you never
know what will happen. And I tell that to everybody,
myself included. Well, get it off your chest. Eight hundred
five eight five one O five one. If you need
to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast club.
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Telling.

Speaker 14 (04:55):
I'm telling what you doing, Hall of Yo.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
This is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred five one. We
want to hear from you on the breakfast clubs.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Hello, who's this?

Speaker 9 (05:10):
Hey? Just to Meeka, y'all residence, What's.

Speaker 15 (05:17):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (05:17):
What's going on y'all? I just wanted to give y'all
some positive vibes this morning and give a big shout
out to one of my bestest friends, Mina. Today is
her birthday and I.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
Just want to give her a happy birthday shout out.

Speaker 9 (05:32):
She's all the way in Jersey and I'm over here
in California, and I really wish I would have been
able to see her this year, but maybe next.

Speaker 15 (05:39):
Happy birthday, yeah, happy birthday.

Speaker 9 (05:42):
Hey, listen, you're gonna like that from you, Jess.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh yeah, I get to yeah yeah, okay, yes, but
you not gay?

Speaker 9 (05:49):
Yes you can't take gay two yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 14 (05:52):
Yeah yeah, I know I know you gay. So that's
why I said. She I'm sorry, you know, no, it's
all good.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
No, I'm not gay. No more like that. Right now,
you've been gay before, I've been gave up.

Speaker 9 (06:01):
It looked like Brittany. She do kind of look like Brittany.
She got dreads and everything.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
What don't look like?

Speaker 14 (06:07):
That's what's up. It's try and that's right.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Why did he come up with my man? Though?

Speaker 9 (06:15):
Like she could have been Chris Chad.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm telling you she could have been if she's just
had a penis yet to stop.

Speaker 9 (06:23):
This, he does the thing about that penis Charla Magne. Listen, studs,
we don't have vibrators. We have strapped scraped one. I
would thing don't vibrate. I would think it's just their big,
heavy and hard.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
You heard, yeah, I heard. I've been seeing the Wolke studs.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Now they be taking the crystals that looked like penises
and putting them out in the full moon and letting charge.

Speaker 9 (06:46):
No no, no no no no no no staying y'all have
a good day. I love it, Thank you, love, I
love y'all have.

Speaker 10 (06:57):
A great.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
They be getting the crystals that are shaped like penises,
and they put them out in the full moon.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
They let the moon charge and they nag them and
just send them on.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Dude, and then they play Ergoba dude, and thatllo in
his mind.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Hello, Who's this is a sharp? Uh?

Speaker 9 (07:19):
Yeah, I don't have enough talments or nothing. I was
just selecting on a get a picture up all three
of y'all together.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
How you gonna do that?

Speaker 9 (07:26):
I mean, I'm just thinking, y'all send me one, you know,
sucking for them?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Man, tll you he sounds like you gotta do it.
Go on line. There's pictures with all the gogle line.
Just google it.

Speaker 15 (07:35):
You sound like biggie though, Okay, just.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Google That's what I think.

Speaker 13 (07:39):
We appreciate you wanting us in your man cave though,
But you know you just google it a picture come up?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (07:44):
Ah yes, sir, Thank you SIDS.

Speaker 15 (07:47):
Yes, yes, yes, it is, it is going Thank you confused?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
All right, then let me see make sure. Yeah's pictures
of shoot get it off your chest.

Speaker 13 (07:57):
Eight hundred five eight five one O five one. If
you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the
Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This new book
Who Better Than You, The Art of Healthy Arrogance and
Dreaming Big, is out now, Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Will Packer family. What's going on and how you feel?
I'm feeling amazing, you know, I'm up here.

Speaker 16 (08:19):
I'm up here with one of the most incredible platforms
in media right now. Interesting time in media, you know,
media ebbs and flows. We're in an EBB right now.
In the movie business, Charlottagne, you know, yeah, just you know,
coming off the strikes, coming off of COVID, like the
movie industry never really recalibrated. So there's a lot of
folks out there that are hurting right now, a lot
of folks that aren't working, a lot of actions out
of work, writers, and so as a producer, you know,

(08:41):
I'm just trying to keep people high, trying to do
what I do and create content. Most people out there,
they don't realize because there's so much content out there
and so many streaming services. It's like, oh, it's everything
out there. I can see whatever I want. But actually
the media companies are making a lot less. So it's
interesting time in the business man. Who better than You
is the name of the book? What makes you decide
to write this?

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yo?

Speaker 16 (09:00):
You know, I have been in the movie game for
almost thirty years now, and I have dealt with some
of the biggest names, some of the most impressive, successful people,
some of the most toxic, insecure people. And throughout that process,
I have gained a set of skills that I want

(09:22):
to share with people about how you can be successful
and manifest the more full life. How you can use
some of the skills that I've learned that are transferable
to any industry to navigate be it. You want to
start a new endeavor, you want to overcome a challenge,
you want to pivot in your life. And so I'm
telling stories I've never told before, stories from dealing with

(09:44):
you know, some of my Hollywood folks. But it's really lessons, right,
It's lessons about this is how you deal with people,
how you position yourself to succeed, and how you have
healthy arrogance now to be confused with toxic arrogance. Right,
Toxic arrogant walks in a room and says, I'm better
than everybody here. I'm gonna win cause you're gonna lose. Right,

(10:04):
I'm better than you. Healthy arrogance walks in a room
and says, okay, number one, I belong in this room.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Right.

Speaker 16 (10:11):
The most successful people feel that they don't feel like
am I supposed to be here with all these important people.
Healthy arrogance feels like I'm supposed to be here. However,
I also have something to add to this room. This
room is better because I'm in it, and I'm gonna
get other people to understand how they and I have
a commonality in terms of our goal. If you can
get other people to see the value in what you're

(10:32):
going after, then you can then get them to row
in the same direction as you and work towards your
own goal. That's what leadership is. Getting other people to
realize that it's not me against you. If I can
get you to understand that together we both benefit from
working together and accomplishing things that are my goals as
well as your goals, your chance for success is increased.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
You know, when I read about you.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Talk about healthy arrogance, or here your interviews about healthy
arrogainst it feels like you're saying you just got it.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's like a sense of worthiness. It's value.

Speaker 16 (11:03):
It is It is very much understanding the value to
place on yourself. Right, you understand, charlote man, because you
talk about mental.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Health a lot. We all have this drum beat in
our head, right.

Speaker 16 (11:13):
It can be a negative drum beat of I'm not ready,
I'm not worthy, I don't have the skills, I'm not prepared.
More and more you tell yourself that. The louder those
voices get. But there's a confidence muscle that you can
build that you can grow by telling yourself the exact
opposite that I am worthy, right, that I am prepared.
But it's really about assigning value. The thing I say
to people that understand, from the time you are born

(11:35):
and to the time you leave this earth, you are
building your brand everything you do, right.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I mean, you can't make mistakes. Everybody does.

Speaker 16 (11:42):
But every decision you make in everything you do is
building your brand, and it is telling people what value
to assign to you.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Whether that's somebody that is looking to invest in you
looking to date, you, looking to just hang out with you.

Speaker 16 (11:54):
You are telling them what your value is, and you
have to be healthy, arrogant in the way that you
force other people to recognize your value.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, so if you don't have nobody, does that mean
you know worth nothing? Well, you know, I'm not gonna
say that.

Speaker 16 (12:11):
You mean like a relationship, Well, that just means that
you have to be sure that you're surrounding yourself with
people that understand your value. It might mean that you're
worth more than people want to give you credit for
talking about. It might mean you're single because other people
don't recognize your value and you're not willing to compromise
for it.

Speaker 15 (12:29):
You had something to say, Charlama.

Speaker 17 (12:31):
What dog won't they.

Speaker 15 (12:41):
Coming this way?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
The sasiness caught me off?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
God, is that what it is?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Are you with your hair back? I was asking you
a question because I like what you're talking about.

Speaker 16 (12:53):
Okay, all right, well yes, absolutely so if some you know,
somebody happens to be an amazing, beautiful single sister, I
don't know you know the relationship status of everybody here,
but let's just say present company.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well, because she said you had a sassy next.

Speaker 9 (13:09):
So she is.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
She is immediately the most entertated person.

Speaker 18 (13:14):
I want to ask you about imposter syndrome and when
you when did that like, when did you get past that?

Speaker 15 (13:19):
Where did you deal with that at all? Yourself?

Speaker 16 (13:21):
Absolutely deal with everybody deals with everybody, uh gets to
a point where they feel like.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yo, do I belong right?

Speaker 16 (13:28):
Do I deserve to be in the most important spaces?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
And I've been very, very fortunate to be in some.

Speaker 16 (13:34):
Incredible rooms with some people that are, you know, some
of the most powerful people from.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Around the world.

Speaker 16 (13:38):
As I said, what I realize is that when I'm
walk in those rooms, I cannot question if I'm supposed
to be there. I need to realize what is it
that I have that nobody else in this room has?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
And how can I double down on that? Right?

Speaker 16 (13:53):
So, black man, African American, Film, American, Hollywood, not a
lot of folks at my level in the rooms that
I'm in.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Oftentimes it's all white people in those rooms.

Speaker 16 (14:02):
What I choose to do instead of saying, Okay, I'm
the only black person in this room. I know they're racist,
I know they looking at me a certain way. I
know they have a negative perception. I'm walking in the room,
and I'm thinking, Okay, you know what, I'm bringing something
that nobody else can bring. When I talk about my perspective,
when I talk about my audience, when I talk about
my community, nobody else can debate me on that.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I'm the only one with that.

Speaker 16 (14:22):
Lived experience, whatever it is in the rooms and the
circles that you're in, what's the unique thing that you have?
And then you triple down on that that will help
with that imposter syndrome. The other thing is that you
have to understand, like you don't have to be somebody
that's just born with like an overabundance of confidence.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
It's something that you can.

Speaker 16 (14:39):
Build, but you do have to build it by putting
a success with a success with a success, right Like
just like hey ballum deg said, check with a check,
with a check.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
You got to build the successes.

Speaker 16 (14:50):
And sometimes to do that you got to come back
and not say, Okay, my first success has to be
so big, right, just accomplish something. I call it fabricating moment.
I believe that sometimes we get stuck on the first wrung,
the very first thing I'm trying to get started. I
don't have any money, I don't know. People don't have
a network. That's okay, right, They'll make the first thing
you're trying to do to climb the mountain. Right, that's

(15:14):
a lot, that's a momentous task. Make the first thing
by the shoes hiking boost, then buy a rope, then
drive by the mountain and look at it.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, you know you've done three things right, Get started.

Speaker 16 (15:23):
Do something that helps to build that confidence we all
need that. We're still kicking it with Will Packer's new book,
Who Better Than You, The Art of Healthy Arrogance and
Dreaming Big, is out now.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Charlamagne, I want to get to the ARTI the pivot,
but first I want to ask you about the chapter
that says, stay in your lane.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, just just make it wide. Lean into your thing? Yes?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
How does one avoid being type casted by leaning into
their thing? And when do you.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Know the pivot?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
You know it.

Speaker 16 (15:49):
The whole point of that chapter is about when you
have something that you do really really well, because many
times people are afraid of being locked into something that
people will think that's all I can do, right, But
if you do that thing, and you do it really
really well, do not stop. Okay, don't stop the most
successful people have a thing that they do and they

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do it well. Then they use the ability to be
successful in a lane to go out and do something else.
I'm only able to write this book with a major
publisher because I've been very successful in a particular medium.
Right now, I'm able to go and do other things.
So don't worry about that.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Oh well, I can do so much other stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
What's the thing you do really well?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Do that?

Speaker 16 (16:29):
Triple down on that. Be the best person in that
particular field. And by the way, find your passion within that.
Right too many times people are telling me, well, I'm
not passionate about something. I gotta wait to find my
passion and before I go out and work really hard.
And I'm telling you, you're building your brand from day one.
Work hard today. I didn't have a passion to be

(16:50):
a filmmaker, I will admit that, but I did not.
That was not my dream growing up. But I found
that I was really good at knowing how to hire
actors and raise money and self distribute. And then I
found the passion in storytelling later. So I found the
thing I was really really good at, and then I
found my passion within it. I encourage people to do that.

(17:11):
Don't worry about being typecast. Stay in your lane.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
But you can make it.

Speaker 16 (17:14):
Why, I'm not trying to pigeonhole you, and I'm not
trying to limit what you can do, but stay in
your lane.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Too often we are trying to do too much, and.

Speaker 16 (17:23):
Now you can't be the person that's doing everything the best.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
That is just not how humans work. What's the thing
you do well? Triple down on that.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
So once you've leaned into your thing and you find
that thing, there's never a pivot from that thing.

Speaker 16 (17:36):
It can be a pivot where you use that thing.
You use your ability, you use your brand, you use
the fact that you have got credibility in a particular space,
you have done the exact same thing. You use the
fact that you have credibility in one lane in order
to then expand your lane. Right, But it should still
all be about this is the thing that I do.
That's why I say stay in your lane, but make

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your lane.

Speaker 18 (17:58):
Why is there ever a time where like you're because
I mean, I'm looking. I remember when you told the
story about Kevin and with the last time you guys
were here. Yeah, and now I'm seeing in context of
this book of like who better than you? And I
feel like in that moment he had the arrogance to
be like, I can do both of these. I'm going
to be fine and it's all going to work out.
But things like that can kind of get pretty tricky
because what if it hadn't have worked out? Is there

(18:19):
ever a moment where you have to tell somebody who's
coming to you for this type of who better than you?

Speaker 15 (18:22):
Advice?

Speaker 18 (18:23):
Like, maybe this is not it for you right now,
maybe there's someone better than you right now, but that
doesn't mean later you.

Speaker 15 (18:29):
Might not be able to have that who better than you?

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Eric, you have to be honest with yourself number one.

Speaker 16 (18:33):
Right, we live in a world where people think either
they are too great or they are too awful. Rodger
Kipling has a poem called if, and my favorite stanza
in that poem is if you can meet with triumph
and disaster and treat those two impostors just the same.
That is saying that both triumph and disaster are impostors,

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neither of them are real.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Right.

Speaker 16 (18:59):
Too many times, because we post some on social media,
everybody tell you, oh my god, you're the greatest thing ever.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Is so good?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Or the opposite. They just hate. No, you're telling you
how awful you are.

Speaker 16 (19:07):
Neither of that is true. You gotta stay even killed.
So the first thing you gotta do is be honest
about you and your skill set. It's the only way
you're gonna get better. Don't worry about external factors. You
got to have a very honest conversation. One of the
things I talk about in the book is how we
have to make sure I'm a daily affirmation type of person.
You're there encouraging yourself right, giving yourself positivity, telling yourself

(19:30):
how you're ready, how you prepared, what you can do,
but also being very very honest with yourself. I don't
care what you tell the world. A lot of yourself,
a lot of your mom, a lot of your cousin,
lot of your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, and wife. Do not
lie to yourself. Be very very clear about what it
is that you do.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, yeah, you know, I want to talk you about
the Packer family model too.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
If you want to have what others, won't you have
to do with others don't? Yeah? Well, yeah, so you
got your mom with you again her, I got moms,
I got you know what.

Speaker 16 (19:56):
It's something that mom instilled in me, you know, when
I was growing up and Dad they took me like
you know, like simbing the lion king and lifting me
up and said, you know, whatever the son touches is
your son. Like I encourage my folks with kids, do that.
Tell your kids because that's when they're the most impressiable.
Tell them they can do anything. They told me that,
and so I was very audacious growing up with my family.

(20:18):
It's me, my wife. We have four children, So that's
the six pack. If you want to have what others don't,
you have to be willing to do what others won't.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Period. That is the mantra.

Speaker 16 (20:27):
The mantra is that understand whatever it is that you
want to do, if anybody else can do it, then
it's not special. You're not gonna get it right. You're
not gonna get something that's unique. You gotta be willing
to do what others are not to get that thing.
And I believe that the more you do hard things,
the better.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
You become at hard things.

Speaker 16 (20:48):
The more hard things you do, the easier hard things become.
So don't run from doing hard things. Don't run from
doing the things that everybody else says it's crazy. That's
the only way you gonna get strength and to build
that muscle. It's by doing those hard things. Why I
say dream big because your dream has got to be
so big, because there's gonna be challenges along the way.
It's gotta be so big that it pushes you past

(21:10):
those challenges inevitably. Because if the dream is just a
mediocre dream, like man, it'd be kind of cool to
do that. Then when you run into a speed bump
that's really hard, you're gonna say, you know what, it
ain't worth it.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I'm cool, right, But if the dream is so big, right,
I mean.

Speaker 16 (21:23):
So big for color for h four khd, like super crazy,
beyond your wireless dreams big, then when you do hit
that hard moment, those challenges, you know it's worth it
to keep going and keep fighting because the dream is
big enough.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Is Will Packer allowed to turn his own book into
a movie? Yeah? Limited? Seriously?

Speaker 16 (21:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it, Will Packer. You know what
I think about doing it? I could do that.

Speaker 15 (21:48):
I saw Heather in the background.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Is that you know what head to say? In the background.

Speaker 15 (21:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 18 (21:52):
I just saw something I was given a lean like
maybe no, don't do it right now or something.

Speaker 16 (21:57):
You know what, I've made this book not to turn
into a movie or a TV show. You never say never,
because you know one of my biggest movies is Think
Like a Man. Steve Harvey will tell you he never
thought of that as a movie.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Never. He never wrote it for that.

Speaker 16 (22:10):
I wrote this to give the master mentorship that I
didn't have. I have people coming to me a lot
and saying, tell me about your success story, tell me
about your failures, tell me about what you had to overcome.
And so when I tell these stories, right and I
talk about you know, Beyonce turning me down five times,
or I Yourselba, you know, almost not walking the carpet

(22:32):
at the first Emmy's and how you get past that? Like,
when I tell these stories, I'm doing that so that
other people can benefit from them.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
So I could turn into a movie. That's not what
I made it for.

Speaker 16 (22:41):
I literally made this book so that I could influence
other folks who are either on their way up, thinking
about making.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
A pivot or living a life that they know could.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Be a little more fulfilling.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Will pack a
new book.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Who better than you to all the healthy arrogance and
dreaming big out right now. Always a pleasure to see
you go out there and biden book making the New
York Times bestseller.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Miss you found.

Speaker 16 (23:04):
I appreciate you, man, Thank you, thank you all for
having me, Charlotte Mann, and thank you because you are
somebody that you know.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
And I told you this.

Speaker 16 (23:10):
We saw each other at the Democrat National Convention, and
I told you I had written my first book, and
I was inspired by your books and by reading your
books and just seeing that process and the grind that
you put in. So you never know who's watching and
who you're inspiring. So no, thank you, my brother, thank
you for having me.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
It's Will Packer, It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 13 (23:28):
Good morning, MV. Jesse hilarious charlamage the guy. We are
the breakfast Club. If you're just joining us, who open
up the phone lines eight hundred five eight five one
five one. Sean Kingston and his mom, Janie she sixty two,
was found guilty or on all charges in their luxury
fraud scheme trial. All right, now she faces twenty years

(23:49):
in prison. That's the maximum for federal wild fraud cases.
Now we're asking eight hundred five eighty five one oh
five to one. If your child or parent got jammed up,
would you take the charge for them? All right now,
Jess said, look, her mom lived a good life already.
Mom gotta sit down for a little bit. I'm taking
the charge of for mom. I ain't gonna let mom

(24:10):
sit mom. My mom is seventy, but I ain't gonna
let mom spend twenty years in jail, so she's gonna
get out of eighty two.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Man, shut up, I'm not mom lying lying. First of all,
you got young ass kids. If your seventy year old
mom did something that actually caused her to go to jail,
if she actually committed a crime, you are not about
to go to jail and leave your little young kids
out here for your mom.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
That don't even make no sense. Your mom should have
been doing what she was doing. Well, they did it together.

Speaker 13 (24:36):
But if he had the opportunity, if we did it
together and I had the opportunity, I'm not letting my
mom die in jail, because that's really what it is.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Well, how about how about you should have said, hey, mom,
maybe we shouldn't be doing these crimes because guess what
if we get locked up, You're gonna go to jail
for a long time and end up dying in jail.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Where was the Where was the empathy then to say
stop still?

Speaker 15 (24:56):
I see?

Speaker 14 (24:58):
I mean I'm still making it a Tasha taking that
all that for all the charges for Tarik.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
I really feel like.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
That was a TV show, Jess, that wasn't real. Noah,
I agree with Jess. Eric little ash and went to
jail man.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
And and if you Sean Kingston and his mom, y'all was
out here doing dirt together.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Mom should have known better.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Mom was out here setting a bad example. Parents are
supposed to lead by example. You out here doing dirt
with your son. Yeah, y'all both going to jail.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Hello? Who's this?

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
What's up? Now? Would you take the charge for your
mom or your son?

Speaker 4 (25:35):
I'm taking the trust with my son.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
What about your mom? My? Mom?

Speaker 4 (25:40):
I don't know about my mom. It's the same, the same,
like the same scenario. You should have been able to come,
She'd have been able to tell me not to do
what I'm doing. So why should I pay the trust
for her?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
So? Why would you take the charge for your son?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
If your son out here is selling dope or killing people,
and then they get.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Arrested and go to jail, you're gonna go take the charger.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
No, not in that sense, in the sense with like
what like Sean Kingston would happened with Sean Kinky and
his mom. Yeah, I'm gonna take trust with my son
because as an adult, while we were both doing the crime,
I should have been an adult to tell him not
to do it.

Speaker 15 (26:14):
But why can't we split the time.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
We both need to learn.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
I'm just saying, like, all right, if we split the time,
some some somebody's getting wasted, it's time somebody's time getting wasted. Okay,
we both did the crime, but he could go on
and still with his life. I'll be in a jail
and do whatever time I need to do out. When
I get out, I'll be still old again.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Still I don't know, But let me ask you this.

Speaker 14 (26:43):
You go, you do the time, right, And what if
he go out and he's still scamming because he's free
now he locked up for something else and you already
serving time for something that yall did together.

Speaker 9 (26:52):
Damn, but we did it together.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
We did it together.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Time soothed your time on the Huh. That's what's happening
in this situation. Sean King's didn't gonna end up getting
his time and the mom gonna end up getting her
time because they were committing crimes together.

Speaker 13 (27:09):
Well, we have somebody on the line that's actually happening
to them now we have and and good.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Morning, good morning now, and what happened with your mom?

Speaker 11 (27:17):
My mom murdered my grandmother?

Speaker 13 (27:20):
So yes, now I'm not sitting for that one. Mom
gott to go a whole that one.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, no vy, no time, your mom, no no v.

Speaker 11 (27:31):
Brother, it's definitely riding with her. He is not saying
a word. They both been in jail since two thousand.

Speaker 9 (27:38):
Why did you been going on for a while?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Why did she do it? Allegedly, if you don't mind.

Speaker 11 (27:42):
Originally started because she was addicted to prescription bills, and
then my grandmother was over it and she was getting
her put out the house, and I guess my mom
was like, like that was too far for her, And
so a week before the actual eviction court, she was
murdered in her home.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
And how did your brother get into it?

Speaker 11 (28:02):
Because he looked at the house, there was no one
at the house besides them and my children. But my
children are the ones that had to wake up to
the murder.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Wow, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
And so your brother is saying that he's the one
who did it because he don't want the mom to
go to prison.

Speaker 11 (28:17):
In a sense, he's actually given convicting stories.

Speaker 8 (28:19):
He's like, she didn't do it, I didn't do it.

Speaker 11 (28:22):
I don't know who did it. I was sleeping, Like
they're spinning around it. And the trial is set for
the twenty first of April, so hopefully whenever we get there,
Jessice will be served. But right now they're kind of
going back and forth, playing like a cat and mouse game.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
So question, how are you sure? How are you so
sure that your mom is the one who did it.

Speaker 11 (28:42):
She's the only one that had any grudge or hatred
towards my grandmother, and my grandmother's a very, very loving woman,
and she was the only when I was getting evicted
out of the house because of just prescriptions and of
a drug abusive that's why I was there or and
my grandmother to make sure she was okay.

Speaker 13 (29:02):
But it got to be proof though, Like even though
your mom might have hated your grandma, if there's no
ballistics on your mom's head, like you know what I mean, And.

Speaker 11 (29:10):
That's exactly why we're going to trial on the twenty first,
But that way all the ballistic reports, all of the
reports can come out, everyone's testimonies, all the evidence, all
the adult protective orders, everything that is going to come
out to show how my grandmother looks afraid of the
woman and she took her life even though she gave

(29:31):
her life.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Can I ask you one question, and if it's too personal,
you don't have to answer, because I'm just I'm just
wondering from a from a trauma aspect, and as a
member of the family, like that's your mom and your
your brother, what do you feel towards them?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
You hate them or you like? What is it?

Speaker 11 (29:50):
I don't say I hate them because I feel like
that will put too much weight on my life. I've
accepted the choices that they made for their and I'll
just move gone independently with my children, just to give
myself some grace because a while I was trying to
figure out why, and there would never be a why.

(30:11):
So I've just been really going to therapy, keep my
kids in therapy, just making sure like we're vocal about
our feelings because I don't want it to become rage.
And then we become unhappy people for the rest of
our lives because of their choices.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Sending you.

Speaker 11 (30:29):
Yeah, but yeah, So I just it was interesting because
I'm going my son off at school and I can
I hear that topic and I can see that it
was triggering for him, like would you do the time
of your mom? And he's looking at me like, mom,
like what the hell?

Speaker 9 (30:41):
I'm like, I'm no baby, Like.

Speaker 11 (30:43):
Everyone has their own opinions, like that's fine. But it
was just interesting because people will do the time for
their parents, regardless of how much time and no matter
how long of the crime.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Wow, damn definitely for sharing your story. And I'm so
sorry your whole family.

Speaker 11 (31:00):
Yes, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Absolutely, Lord have mercy.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Hello. Who's this Hello, Hollywood, Florida.

Speaker 9 (31:08):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Brother? So if you if your mom got jammed up,
you're gonna do the time for.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
I mean, it depends on the situation. Who got more emotion,
if she's sitting down.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
And anyway, you know what I'm saying, said, we got
more emotion out here.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Mom ain't got no motion, you know what I'm saying.
She gotta go through that time.

Speaker 10 (31:31):
We're gonna make her ice school.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
We're gonna take care of her. We're gonna make sure
her commissary is full. You know, she got her soap
and her shampoos and all that good stuff. You know
she's gonna be all right.

Speaker 9 (31:41):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
I'm grown.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
I gotta raise my kids. You know what I'm saying.
I know I know she she'll do it. She'll do
it for me too. You know she love her baby.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
All right.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Damn it, man, we acting like both of these people
aren't adults, like these are adults making adult.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Choices, So you gotta deal with the consequences of your choices.
All right, Well is there a moral? But that was
the moral.

Speaker 14 (32:02):
I don't really think it's a direct moral. Like I
like the gentleman who just called up. He said it
depends on who got.

Speaker 15 (32:07):
The most motion.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Man. I like the emotional conversation.

Speaker 15 (32:12):
I'm with that.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I like that I got more followers than you my Instagram.
You gotta take your ass to Jay. Ain't nobody checking
for you nowhere?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
You know what I mean? Jesus?

Speaker 13 (32:19):
All right, Well, we got the latest with Laurie coming up,
so don't go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast club owning.

Speaker 13 (32:28):
Everybody is d J M g JA hilarious, Charlamaga God
we are the breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Longs is here as well, and we got a special
guest in the building, a.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Guy the legendary Welcome.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Here in a minute, I'm over there, okay.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I was like, yeah, I was like, THEYDMB replaced me
right there, right way. That's what's going on.

Speaker 13 (32:56):
Man, I gotta ask you a question before we start
the interview. Right, my daughters have dance and uh, this
weekend I had to drive three albums. So when they
sleep and everybody sleeping in the back, that's when I
listened to my music.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
So I turned on on the Firm album.

Speaker 13 (33:08):
Right and record on the Firm and then your record
comes on. I'm leaving man right, and I'm like, how
the hell did Nori get a record on the Firm
album by himself? Make it make sense? I was like,
I never asked nor that. Well, a lot of people
don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Naves was on Ward Report, the first album and he
was on a record called music Make this Dogs Calm down.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
For whatever reason, Uh, we we can't clear it. You
know what I'm saying. You know, we didn't have money
back then. You know what I'm saying album, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
So so now I's wanted to pay me back. And
you know, I was in that like a little purgatory
like and hip hop at the time, and uh uh
Now I was like, Yo, I want to put you
on the firm album. This was before like they kind
of even announced it. So he was like, Yo, I'm
going to Miami. Me I meet you in my meet
us in Miami and whatever Instagram was back then.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
In Miami, and I was like oh.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
And then a month later he uh called me and
I was like, Yo, meet me in l A. And
we went to l A and I recorded I'm Leaving.
I'm Leaving was originally on Copona Noriega's War Report album
and try to shut it down.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Tras was like that that's whack is.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
That was a single, I'm leaving, That's my man, That's
my man. But he thought it was whack and so
we never used it. And when I got to the studio,
I believe Dre.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Doctor Dre was the engineer, and he was like, you
got something.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And that's why to this day, I always you know,
show Nature love is because that was Nature's session. That
wasn't my session when I recorded I'm leaving, so I
went in and Doctor Dre was like. I said that
to Doctor Dre recently and he was like, you got
something because he called me rag.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Doc.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
You know what I'm saying, Like I'm coming up from
Left Frack City, I'm in LA, so I'm like, yo,
I didn't correct them. So that's why if you notice
I started the verse off, know this, know that you
can remember my name? Yeah, you gonna remember my name,
right and he laughed at that recently interviewed him in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
But yeah, that's how that happened.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
So like NAS and that record and Big Pun record
really set off my solo career. You know, I used
to rhyme in mv's basement, you know what I'm saying.
But I still wasn't a solo artist. I was a
componing Noriega, you know, even though I was going there solo.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
But that's what set off my career. So why wasn't
it a single? Because that is it was one of the.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Hating man come on course, no, not just playing, you
know what, It's crazy Like me and I spoke about
this recently. That was one of the hottest street records.
There was like, and I just, I just I wasn't
smart enough to like go out there and do my
own video. I wasn't, but I did, you know, I
did take the accolades, the accolades that came with it.
It changed my life, you know what I'm saying, Like

(35:57):
being on a firm project that was Na's five see
Azy at a cor Mega or Nature, whichever one you
want to pick at the time, but that was the
hottest group in the world. For me to have a
record on that album, it set off my whole career.

Speaker 13 (36:10):
I got one more questions. I guess I was riding
a lot of questions. So then I turned it off,
and then I turned on your first album right now
I'm rocking, and band from TV comes on right yes,
and I'm like, the original version had Cormega on it. Nah,
it never had a Mega, So why.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Was Cormega not on it? In Nature on it? Because
at the first Omegas was with well, me and Mega.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Me and Mega has always been cool, and Me and
Mega are still cool to this day. But what happened was,
like I told you, I invaded Nature session because this
is back then, you know, I know you guys probably
do the coupon deals now, like with the flights. But
back in the days, I flew out on a Tuesday.
I had to be there on a Friday, but Tuesday
was cheaper. Day was cheaper, and I flew out that Tuesday,

(36:56):
and I had recorded that Wednesday, but that was Nature session.
So I wanted to repay him back, so I told
him to come to Electric Lady, and Nature took about
ten hours picking beats. He was like very very very
very particular, and he was he was actually getting on
my nerves. Sorry Nature, but he was actually getting my nerves.
And then Swiss changed the beat to one beat, and

(37:16):
Nature just he wrote the whole rhyme right there and there,
and I felt like it was my payback. And then
Pun came and you know, you know that Joe says
he's a glizzy King, Paul Pun was a glizzy I
don't even know. They got to say hot dog.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
No, no, no, we're gonna say Gliffy hot dog.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
So he went to Graves for PAIEC. Because I don't
know if you have a remember Electric Lady. It was
the studio Jimmy Hendrick studio, and he got a cat
in there, so Big Pun saw my car. You know,
I was the only one with the gs you know,
for for thirty you know, brand new, you know I
had two of them.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
You know what I'm saying, Come on, envy notes that
queens get the money for for you.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
And so yeah, Pun see my car out and then
he was like, yo, you you had an electric lady.
And he went in and he just laid the verse.
I never asked Pun to get on the record. I
actually told the engineer to erace it in front of
Punt's face.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I was like, was my friend and he just jumped
on my.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Record And I was just like like, you're not supposed
to do that.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
He's supposed to ask permission.

Speaker 11 (38:17):
And then.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Then Cam called me, and Cam happened to be in
the city and Cam came so that all all banned
from TV happened in real life. This is not like,
this is not sending the record. You know, if you
could pay attention to how people make music now they
send the records. So you don't feel I don't get
to smell your izzy, Miaki, I don't get this to
see what watch you got on. I don't get to

(38:41):
feel the feeling that you was in when I'm making
my uphoria to collab with that. That's why our records
were better in the nineties. We had to be in
the studio with Buster Rohms, you had to be in
the studio with Bad Joe, you had to be in
the studio with Jada Kiss. So that's how Badroom TV happened.
It happened in real time only people that we didn't
get that day, the Locks. And I remember my first

(39:02):
time meeting Styles p and Jada Kiss. I hated styles
pe Wow. He took my weed and didn't share it
with me.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
He asked me for weed.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
I was like, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
It was naturally back then. Pop up fast. By the way,
I'll give Styles people keys to my house right now,
so just you know. But that's how he was back
in the days. He was just very like aggressive, ignorant
and negative. His word just vegan. This saved his life.
I can see the different like I can see that
like the person. But that session was legendary too, like

(39:33):
you know what I mean, me and them and uh,
it was never supposed to be a post I didn't
know what it was supposed to be. To tell you
the truth, it was really meant to show nature love
you know what I'm saying because nature had just did
that for me and I wanted to do that. And
at the time, I know this sounds funny right now,
but no one knew who the guy who.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Made the beat. He was called D's nephew.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, you know who he is now big Like I
was the first one to work with Swiss beats outside
of rough Riders.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
This is this is facts. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
You could look at you can look at when when
I when I I spoke to l L the other day,
l L said to me that I brung him for
real and he just couldn't get it.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Like I brung I had the foresight to see.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Like when I did podcast, people were like, Yo, this
guy must be broke.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Now everybody got a podcast. Now hold on now.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Because Memphis Bleak said he was the first person out
of d m X in jas Lewis say that on the.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
New episode this week.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
He can say whatever he wants, but.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I heard him say that he was the first girl
to work with swits outside of d m X and
jay Z.

Speaker 10 (40:41):
No.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I mean, God blessed God blessed Bleak, But monsus facts
my brother, that's my brother, that's my bro. I mean
this is documented. Bathroom TV is documented. Is the first
hit outside of Rough Riders. I'm now he might have
he might have did work with him, but I'm not
sure if it's a certified hit.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
You know what I'm saying. Bathroom TV is a certified
Like I know.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
People who who who I grilled me in the club
when band from TV's on, they don't even know it's me.
Bak Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yah yah. That's the
same time though, that's the same time. I give it
to bleek Or and big up to Bleak. We we
know it's on that album too. Yeah, I got that.
I got a lot of flas, I got a lot
of flax. Yes, yes, Bleak, we got Bleak. We got
drinking Champs Network through Black Effect, I heart doped thing.

(41:25):
We got Angela Simmons. Also, we're just wrapping hers up.
We got run Chaps, uh something. I'm very passionate about
everybody this here. They might look like hudims, they're not,
you know what I mean. These are people that I
run with. We are passionate. They wake up in the
morning with me, four thirty in the morning.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
You know, I've seen DJ Collin and like, and you know,
I see how happy he was playing golf.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Colin came up to me and said, you.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Know, your inspiration to me, And I was just like,
how could I be an aspiration to you?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Sorry, that's why, Yeah, that's why you don't give me live.
That's why. That's the reason why. Yeah, I understand.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
So and I realized, you know, I wanted I needed
a hobby. Like you know what I'm saying, Like, I've
actually and this is my hobby now. Like so I
go places. I've been to Hawaii to run, I've been
to Puerto Rico to run. I've been I've gone all
over the place and I'm now I'm officially joining the
NYC Marathon. Yes, yes, so that's what twenty six point

(42:20):
twenty six point two miles. I don't like the five k's,
the six k's, the ten k. We are not in dudes, Udorf,
We're in America. We're gonna turn to this Milesay, okay,
So with twenty six point two miles, Yes, I am
I scared to death.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yes, we're still kicking it with n O R E. Lauren.

Speaker 18 (42:35):
How do you I always wondered this when I watch
you episodes how do you drink the full episode, all
these episodes back to back, and then you do things
like you running and all that too.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
You still drink, of course I do. Yeah, I'm rinking.
Say we just water right now. But what you said,
the question is how do I do it? I believe
it's all mental. I believe like all this and right now,
like I'm more conscious, like you know, my my, A
person that I look up to is Riza and Rizza.
You know he drink saki, right he drinks a certain
type of sake that that gets you up. So that's

(43:03):
where I switched to. I switched to saki. It gives
you no hangover and wake up in the morning. And
I could go out because right now it's like, you know,
I've lived this life where you know, it's a different
type of lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
I fell in love with this.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I fell in love with something that don't pay me,
you know what I'm saying, And like, you know, everything
in life is about money, and then when you find
that one thing, so uh, the New York City Marathon
is probably my biggest uh gold that I'm ever like
you and and and nothing could make me better but me.
You know, I can never remember a time. You don't

(43:37):
be running like that's your thing, Like for.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Long time up in the morning and he jogging.

Speaker 15 (43:43):
Are you supposed to videos on your Instagram?

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I'm listening to y'all.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
You know what I'm saying, like he text us at
the puff caase like I.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 15 (43:51):
I'm supposed to be on my way.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
What did I tell you?

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I said, I can help my information from you. Like
everything I know about the Puffcakes, I get it from you.

Speaker 18 (43:57):
So everything I know about a lot of the hip
hop stories, I get it from you.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
All these things you backrapping? Nor sent me a record
the other day. Yes, I don't listened to you. I
was like, and was the first thing he saidlot, send
your record. I said, you're back rapping. You know what?
I'm rapping on my time? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
One of the one of the one of the worst
feelings I ever got, I ever did, was, you know,
getting a whole bunch of money from Melvin Flint the
Hustler album and then having to make it after you know,
Pun passed away and my father passed away. My mind
wasn't dead, but I got all this money, right, so
I had to like deliver, so I always regretted that.
So there's people who love the Melvin Flint Apple album

(44:39):
that people like. Every day I'm going through the airport
and somebody's.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Like, why would you say that about Melvin Flick.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
And you know, whatever I want now, I want to
make music on my time. Like I got to see
me the other day, not in person, but on the internet,
and he was like, I finally own one hundred percent
of of my catalog and a lot of people don't understand,
like he was crying out like he was. He was
he was venting, and I now own one hundred percent

(45:06):
of everything I do. You know what I'm saying. But
at certain points, like like so I want to I
know this is gonna sound crazy, especially you had Dame
Dash up here speaking the opposite, But sometimes I want
to work for somebody.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Being a boss is hard, bro, But it ain't nothing
wrong with that. That's what we were saying.

Speaker 13 (45:25):
You could have multiple jobs and multiple things.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
I love employees, I love working for love and hip hop.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
I just didn't give them the throwing a candle and
you know, you know, throwing drinks in the figure. I
ain't giving no drama. So they ain't we hired me.
But I love that. If I don't show up for work,
then sometimes work don't happen. Right, You know what I'm saying.
I don't like being the picture adding the catcher.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
The album was it just release singles when you want.
I'm gonna pay attention to the algorithms.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
You understand I'm saying, like right now, we like right now,
I can I could an artists could come to drink Champs.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
I suppose lu Wayne came to drink Champs. I could
actually see his algorithms and I could tell him where
he could go on tour.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I could be like, stop going to Milwaukee, Bro, you
got two fans in Milwaukee, why are you even there?
Go to Seattle, Go to Utah, go to Phoenix. Like
I can look at the algorithms. I can see exactly
like this. This is the time where we should take
advantage of having this information. You know what I'm saying.
Now we know now, remember remember back in the days

(46:30):
used to go on tour. I'm sorry it sound like
the old guy, but you know when back in the
days you go on tour, you used to go to Delaware.
When when your fans are in Philly, Big up to Delaware.
You know what I'm saying, Big up to Delaware, but actually.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Used to go to Delaware. Okay, okay, it is, but
that was my preference.

Speaker 15 (46:46):
Yes, that's my.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
That was my preference. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
But sometimes during the algorithms, just say, okay, yeah, you
know what, after Delaware you gotta go to Baltimore, skip
Virginia or or.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
But right now you can actually see the algorithms. And
I think this is the cheat code. I think it's
the cheat cold for everybody because I did it for
artists recent leading and I was just like, yo, I
don't think you should go here here here, you don't
have you don't have no movement there. And I think
that I think that artists would take advantage of that.
I think a few years ago you had to hit
record that joint with Pharrell.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
It's crazy. I just, I just, I just I'm going
to see Pharrell in Paris.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I don't even know, like, I don't even know what
me and me and Farre have nothing in common but music,
and that sounds how dope music is, right, Just think
about it like you like if I.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Think of all Pharrell rap friends.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Though to me, they don't have nothing in common like
the outside of Virginia. No, they got common. They dressed,
they they wear bell bottoms together. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
they you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, they they
they they come out to me. Me and Fharrell have
a beautiful like when we get together, we talk straight
music and I love that. At first I thought it

(47:59):
was awkward, but the elder I get, I was like, Yo,
you know what that is?

Speaker 9 (48:02):
That is?

Speaker 1 (48:03):
That is dope.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
You know what I'm saying, Like that's dope, and like
I don't get none of this Louis guitar for free Man,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like I'm I'm trying
to work my angle. I want to meet Bernard although
you know what I'm saying, I want to do that,
but I'm gonna go out there. I'm going to in Paris. Uh.
He got a whole different sound. And when he makes
a different sound, I usually go out there and I'm
a part of that new wave of.

Speaker 15 (48:23):
Sounds record and did some more music.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
I like Paris anyway, I like Long Shade. Let's like
the man man fancy way of saying manhattanough Paris.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
We're still kicking it with N O R E. Charlamagne.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Let's do a Q and A like you do on Dreams.
Let's go I'm in quick time right now to Jim Jones.
Let me tell you something, and I'm gonna say this accurately.
I see where Jim Jones is coming from, like I
can see him because if you're looking at the algorithms, now,
I can see where he's coming from. But you can't
take the legendary status that what ill Matic has done
just Illmatic, Illmatic itself has birthed mob Deep, has birthed

(49:03):
Component Noriega, has birthed so many other people like just
that album, and you can't. And that time was the
tougher time for you to be noticed. So that's the
reason why. But I understand where Jim is coming from.
I understand his stass. Do you understand that that the
kids know him?

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Now, I say, I'm gonna tell you them. I looked
up there. I looked it up, like I did.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I looked it up to see like who gets searched
more in two ty twenty five, it's still nots. I
give you the numbers right now, and this is based
off Google. Hold on, I was just looking at this
the other day and it's still NAS by long shot.
It's hard to beat NAS. Okay, Streaming wise, NAS has
about nine point one million monthly Spotify listeners, while Jim

(49:45):
Jones clocks in around eight hundred and seventy five thousand
gym music.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
But don't for the Google search. This is the Google
based searches.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
NAS gets between two hundred and three hundred thousand searches
a month globally.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Jim Jones gets forty to seventy thousand searches.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I'm gonna be honest with you, all right, we all
know that that NAHS wins. But listen the fact that
we're even having this conversation, that's a win for Jim Jones.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
And that's what I was saying. That's a win Jake knows. Like,
let me just tell you something.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I'm a Floyd Mayweather fan, right, I'm talking about I
think he's better than Muhammad Ali. Right, this is me, Right,
I get argued people, but whenever Floyd fights somebody that night,
they're on the same level as Floyd. So that's the
reason why I hate when Floyd taking these exhibition fights because.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I'm sitting there as a fan.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I don't want Jake Paul to touch my favorite fighter,
like I don't want I don't want him to have
a lucky shot.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
But you do know, and Floyd Maywell, how do you
turn down thirty forty million? Yeah, exhibition to turn down.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Thirty forty million, But I know the turn But so
my point of trying to say is by us even
comparing it, that's a that's a win for Jim Jones.
Like I seen Jim Jones in the beginning, Like I
got footage of Jim Jones and Cameron. I was filming
a pre to drink Champs. I have a documentary called
What What. I still have all the footage, and Jim

(51:01):
Jones was out.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
It's on the internet. You could google this. It's called
what Trailer And Jim Jones is out and Cam.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
And you're sitting there and Kim Jones like, I don't
I don't even spend money on weed, you know what
I mean? I buy five Nichols with a twenty dollars
And you look at that person, to the person that
he is, now this man won man just one and
I'm talking about you got to take him serious, like
he was a hype man, a hype man person that
was back in to where he is now. I think

(51:31):
that's an accomplishment. I think that's what we should we
should be celebrating. I hate in our culture that we
have to compare like me personally, I don't do that
on Quick Time with Slime no more. But I was
forced to take out uh, Nicki Minaj and Cardi B
because people I'm talking about the fans were complaining not
their camps. Their camps were too, but the fans were like, yo,

(51:53):
it's it's looks like both of them.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, and truth, I like both of them, Like I
am a Kendrick Lamar. If you like both of them,
you can have a preference. Yeah, right now you feel
like if you play Kendrick Lamar, you gotta throw away
your Drake CD. That's messed up.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
I've never been a Drake Like, even though y'all got
a funny relationship, you should be too, right, Like.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
When I'm in the club, I listen to Drake, but
if I'm in the car, I could listen to Kendrick.
That doesn't mean I listen to Drake in the car.
And I like Kendrick in the club. But you can
listen to whatever you want, but you can still like
both of them. I like both of them, like I
don't like you got.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Purposes And if I give you two people, it's somebody
you probably like more. Yes, of course, of course, But
but I do like both like you know what I'm saying, Like, yes,
I like I like pistachio more than I like vanilla exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
But guess what if you.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Give me up another ice cream and nobody looking, I'm
gonna hate that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I'm not gonna get playing. But let me ask you
the quick slide. Let's go diddy guilty and not guilty. Damn.
You know what, I'm gonna leave that in the You
know what I mean. I could take you this.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
I got to tell you from my experience, right, you know,
you know me and you know each other twenty twenty
seven years. There's people who can say, man, I don't
I don't Envy, right. I can't say that to them,
you know what I'm saying. Me and Vy have a
separate relationship. All I can say is when I've ever
been around, and I've been around quite some time, you know,
I got my I'm married. I've been married sixteen years,
so maybe I was never really around that.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
But I've never saw it.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
You know, I've never saw this monster that they described
when I hear the testimony, because I got ears and
I got Q tips, so.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
I hear it.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Some of this be like whoa, and then some of it.
I'm like, nah, but I don't know you've seen the
freaky first I've never seen. I've really just like you
every day. Every day when you look back at that
we saw it?

Speaker 11 (53:54):
You ready.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Ready for this? I've been waiting to see this story. Okay, Okay,
let's party party? Yeah yeah, okay, you mean he wants
to play it the refreshmentory.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Why want you to party with me for your birthday?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Man, we party for my birthday before you came to
my party. No, but me and you ain't never really party.
You know what I'm saying. I see it every time
it goes.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yes, I look at it too, and I watched the
whole too. So all right, here's what happened, Fab and Jada.
Fab's first freestyle you ever heard? Fab is with me like,
so I basically put Fab on like in a good way.
I'm playing around. I always say that to him. It's
a joke, but it's not actually like, if I could
have I was the hottest dude in New York at
that time. Clue asked me, can I have my dude

(54:39):
Sport come up? And I was like Sport. He was
like Sport and I was like, that's a dope name, Sport.
His name is fabulous Sport in my line.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
So we did.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
So what I'm saying is me and Fabs have a
great relationship. Me and Jada has a great relationship.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Drink chats.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
We're hot at the time. You got a budget to
fly around. We're using the revote budget up to revolt
everybody there. Thank you'all for holding us down.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
So they're in LA. We fly to l A.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
E f N misses his flight off, I forget what happens. Boom,
Jada kissing them are on their promo run. I like
the creative person that I thought I was being. I
messed up, but I tried. I thought I was being creative.
I hip hop, and I was like, yo, they're doing
a whole press run. That was for the fab being

(55:24):
kiss out. They're doing the whole press rue. What could
our what could make ours different you come to the show.
So he's like, all right, cool is Goooby Loo birthday.
We're gonna go celebrate with y'all. Now that part you forget.
That's why the candles was there. It was Boody Loop birthday,
who is a Rastafarian, the furthest thing from anything.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Fight r.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Fab, Jada, Kiss and Dinny arrived at the same time. Remember,
Diddy's a surprise. So my friend mister Lee, who's who
is Dominican?

Speaker 1 (55:56):
What's his slang? Dotty, your dotty, your dotty?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Hey he talking Dominicans because they didn't They don't want
to say poppy Boppy is a.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Puerto Rican thing. You undert what I'm saying. So he
sees Diddy. He say, oh, Dotty, you gotta put you
over here, dotty because we got we got.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
We don't want them to see it. So Diddy got
that in his head. Now Doddy, Now he's just kidd
Doddy Doddy. He thinks that's what we're saying. No, it's
not what we're saying. This is what mister Lee is saying.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
That's it, that's it. So so we walk over and
he goes, yo, what's up, Doddy? You up immediately, Yes,
it does all right.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Cool, But here's what y'all don't know. When he's saying
to Fabulous, yo, why did't you party me no more?
Look at us in front of Fabulous.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
That's not a rock.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Fabulous had a whole coco loso, but Diddy. So when
I'm inviting Diddy to co host, he has a whole
other thing. He's coming at fab why you're not drinking
no more? That's what he's saying, why we don't party
no more? And look he's pointing at it. He's like,
and fab if you look, Fabius almost trying to throw

(56:55):
the voko away because he's like and you know, he
had a deal. So that's really what that was about. Like,
that's what And the daddy part came from mister Lee
and you know, hold on, there was more to that.
He said, I like it when you scrambling and scrambling

(57:19):
that what I can't I can't.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
I know, I was, I was, I was off to.
I was throwing off to And you know what's the
crazy thing about it. You know, I was sitting on
the editing floor and he was like, keep all that in.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I was like, I was like, you know what, Well,
I really wish I would have edited it was the
Kanye now that you know, we didn't edit nothing until
then until then, But Kanye's was very weird, like because
I had never got third what is it second grade,
second hand second hand hate? I got second I got

(57:55):
second hand hate or so yeah, but that that's that's, that's, that's,
that's that's We're still kicking it with N. O. R. E.
Charlamagne and the Didny thing is interesting, like I don't
I don't know whether he's guilty or not, but that
interview was classic before that classic.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
I played it for him when he was ye, yes,
I saw that.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I mean, you know, that's that's been a that's been
a dope thing about drink Champs. It's like I get
to to make mistakes in front the fans live like
in real time, and they robbing me, like you know
what I mean, don't get it twisted. I love the
hate though, too. I love ballance because I've lived my
whole career where you know, you know, people have my

(58:39):
back and you know, just to see like it's it's
a balance to this, you know what I mean, Like
I'm with it because but that's why I love I
enjoy doing what we're doing with run Champs. It's like
it's all positivity, Like this is the only time I
could post something.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
That's when somebody would always say something you run slow.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Then was interesting too, though, because it's like you're not
responsible for what comes out of Kanye's mouth.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
You're just you're a platform, you're a host.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Yeah, but I felt responsible, you know why when when
I found out that George Floyd people's didn't like it,
I felt responsible because and by the way, God bless me,
I've never said this before, but this parts that we
edited it, Like there is actually parts that we did edit,
like he compared I said, he compared George Floyd to

(59:29):
Martin Luther King and and and he was like, what's
the difference between George Floyd.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
And Martin Luther King? And we were all like we've
been at that time. So we were thrown off, like
what we do?

Speaker 10 (59:41):
What?

Speaker 1 (59:41):
And he was like, Martin Luther King happened? And we
were like, oh, we knew that had to be edited
right there, Like we were like.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Oh no, And so we were paying attention to the
parts that we weren't paying attention to everything, Like you
know what I mean? So, and he had got me.
He had he had called me. I don't want to
like like blame it all on him, because that's you know,
it was. It was a collective. It just didn't I
just didn't know what. I didn't know how to edit
at that time. Since then we spoke like five six times.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Then it disappeared, and so did he not spoke to something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
So I'm gonna do a documentary my two years with Kanye,
because I had two years.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
I just like I thought he I thought he was
listening to me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
At one point, He's asking me married to advice, and
I was I felt obligated.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I was like I was going downstairs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
I was going I was walking away from my wife
because I didn't even want my hunter know that I
was giving wife advice and married to advice. And then
he would listen to me and then he just tweet
away right after, and I was like, you a little
bit for me, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
I never took it like that. After you apologize, he was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
He said, now he's a good guy. He said, no,
he's a good guy. That I didn't because I had
to tell you the truth. I understood media, but I
only understood the good side of media at that time.
Like when I come to the breakfast club and I
go to Canada, people will be like, yo, breakfast club,
Like it's positive, you know what I'm saying. So this
is my this is my this is my turn of saying.
You know what, it ain't all guts and glavy, like

(01:01:09):
sometimes you gotta go outside and take the gum under
the table and then put put the gum under the
table in your.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Mouth and maybe that you know what I'm saying. You
gotta stuff. Sometimes you gotta scuff your tims, even tims.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
And that's that's that's that's that's pretty much. Yeah, but
that was a horrible situation.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Let's get into a record. Let's get into this record.
Let me pull it up. I get the name of it. Well,
you tell us the name of it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
No, it's called Win Again because that's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna win again. And there's two features on there.
I guess we'll figure it out. And make sure you
keep subscribing to Drink champses. Make sure you support the
Drink Champs network. Mid Bleak Show, Angela Simmons Show comes soon.
You know, and run champs right, well, healthy High. It's
called healthy High, Healthy all right, it's the breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Let's go. Florida man attacked n A.

Speaker 15 (01:01:59):
T I for a very strange reason.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
It gave him too much money.

Speaker 18 (01:02:02):
Florida man is arrested after that, being said he rigged
the door to his home in an attempt to electro
hit his president.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Lights police arrested an Orlando man for talking to from
Meidos the breakfast club, bitch you Donkey other day with
Charlam Hayne, the guy I don't know why y'all keep it,
letting him get y'all like this well of all is Florida. Okay,
Donkey to day goes to a Florida woman named Victoria Moosey. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
She is thirty three years old and she helps from
one of my favorite places in the world, Orlando, Florida.
Salute to everybody who listens to us on one oh
four point five to beat in Orlando. Drop on the
clothes bombs for one oh four point five to beat Orlando.
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
What does your uncle Shalla always say about the great
state of Florida? Say it with me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
The craziest people in America, come from the Bronx and
all of Florida, and today there's no exception.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
See Victoria was stopped.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
In Fort Lauderdale, like the intersection of Livington Street and
Hughlee Avenue because she failed to yield the right of
way to another vehicle. So she got pulled over and
when the officer called dispatched to check on her identity,
they were there was a warrant out in Orange County
for DUI. So officers did what they they do. They
took her out of the vehicle a red FOD Escape. Okay,

(01:03:09):
this car was typecasted for what happens next. They took
her out of her red Florid Escape and brought her
back to the patrol car, advised her of the warrant
and that she will be put under arrest. That's when
Victoria decided to make like her ford An escape. She
started to resist, ran back to her forward escape, jumped
in and placed it in drive.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
But there was a problem with that. See, her six
year old daughter was in the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Back seat, but one of the police officers had also
gotten into the backseat of the FID Escape with the
daughter as well. I mean they were taking her mother
to jail, so somebody had to be with the six
year old. But listen to what I just said. Victoria
found out she had a warren for her arrest for DUI,
and clearly she must have still been drunk because there
was a police officer in the back seat with her.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Six year old. What do you think Victoria did next?

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Complied to the commands to get out of the suv,
realized there was a police officer in her back seat,
and just.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
So, no, this is Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
She drove away, but the cop in the back, with
the police officer in the back seat, where are you going?

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Look, moms are busy nowadays. Okay, sometimes you got to
bring a cop along for carpool duty. All right, you
have at sea. But I have no idea. You know,
she wanted more community policing. This is her way of
getting it all right? Where does she think she was
going with a police officer in her back seat. In
most places on the planet, a police officer in the
back seat would deter you from trying to make a getaway.
But not in Florida. Nope, nope, no, nope.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
In Florida, you can bind traffic, stops, kidnapping, and a
family road trip. Okay, drop on the clues bombs for multitasking,
all right, not to mention where would you be going
when the officer in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
The back seat can just tell his fellow officers exactly
where you're going? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
This is literally the equivalent of someone sharing their Uber
ride status with you. In fact, this could be a
new Uber service called Uber Arrest. Why don't we have
Cops Florida edition.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
They gotta be a Cops Flaughter edition, right, I'm sure
it has to be a Cops just dedicated to Florida.
This has to exist already, right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
All you got to do is attach a goldfro to
every cop car in Florida and just sit back and
being attained. Please give Victoria mossif the sweet sounds of
the Hamiltons you oh the.

Speaker 17 (01:05:25):
Oh the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Ye end, she ain't gonna know. Damn well, she pulled over. Yes,
eventually she's in jail for her louding police. I thought
there was more than the story I wanted to go.
You know, she knew the cop was there the whole time.

Speaker 18 (01:05:46):
Yeah, But since she already pulled off and the cop
was already there, baby girl could have just like I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Know, where's she going?

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Eventually, the police officer followed there, followed her down the street.
She finally stopped at an intersection, and she was placed
in the custody. That's all, and now she faces a
charge of fleeing and eluding police.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
No game. I mean, we could if you want to
want to, and if you really feel like you need to.
But uh sure, let's play a game of guess what
race it is? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
A Florida woman driving in Orlando Monday fled the traffic
stopping arrest while she had the police officer and her
six year old daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
In the back car. Guess what right is envy? M hm?
Not white? You don't want to play. I'm curious you
want to play now? You don't know. I don't know.
That's why I'm asking why do you think you're white?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I mean what the caucasiity of having an officer in
the back seat is still feeling like you can drive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Off, the duy feeling and the fact that the dui
racist dui.

Speaker 13 (01:06:56):
But not only that, but the fact that you had
a police officer in the back and he didn't beat
you as you were driving off kind of makes me
feel like you, Why would you beat her to stop
the pen she's driving?

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Then she could wreck and kill us all you idiot
or you stupid gotta police.

Speaker 15 (01:07:12):
Somehow did the baby girl in the back seats or
the baby in the back seat say anything? I was
the baby?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Well hold on, Lauren, a Florida woman driving in Orlando Monday,
fled the traffic stop and arrest police, saying by hopping
back in her SUV and driving off while the police
officer was in the back with her daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Yes, what race she is, Laura l Rossa?

Speaker 15 (01:07:28):
I think she's heroin white. But if the baby in
the back seat.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Didn't say let the wrong I didn't stop the car.
Police got to stop the call some how.

Speaker 13 (01:07:36):
I'm not gonna beat the woman in the back of
a six year old daughter in the back on the
highway and take off and start going crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
You got to get her to stop the car, put
the car.

Speaker 18 (01:07:44):
Six year old six seven whatever would have been like, dad,
somebody in the car right? My niece would have been
like someone else is in the car, mom? Because why
would she was six years old?

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
She understands, police officer. What's the officer? Well, both of
you racist bigots are wrong. Okay, is not white, she
is negro. Wow, I went against that one because you're racist.

Speaker 15 (01:08:07):
She's crazy. I would drove right to my mama house.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
But the copy in the back, yes, come get my baby.

Speaker 15 (01:08:12):
I'm going to jail.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Well, ourge is the new black yod. Okay, this is
I want to guess that her right. She got she
got corns. It looked like she had no correls for
a little too long. That's what it looked like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Jesus got the little afro that growing over it looked
out your hair lookingdo that wig.

Speaker 15 (01:08:30):
First of all, this is not a baby.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
This is all me.

Speaker 15 (01:08:33):
I know you don't know what it feels like to
grow hair and like hairlines and stuff anymore. But this
is what it looks like. Okay, no, look at it.
It saw me and saw me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
That's not Felicia.

Speaker 11 (01:08:44):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 15 (01:08:45):
This is Eva. Eva is the natural mature girl. She
is cheek. She is trimmed.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
A vengeance Jesus because both of them always just looked
like they're in need of some type of marr all right.
They just all look like they're going through some type
of struggle that they need help.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
You know what.

Speaker 15 (01:09:01):
Exactly? Mind your business?

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
All right, girls, all right, girls, girls, guys, gals.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Funny thing is you been trying to make a bounce
all morning, but it ain't really bouncing.

Speaker 15 (01:09:10):
Don't do me. Don't cut the bible that black.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
All right, gals.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
The breakfast club, good morning.

Speaker 13 (01:09:19):
Everybody's d j envy just hilarious charlamage. The guy we
are the breakfast club lawn La Rosa is here as well.
We got a special guest.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
In the building, a guy we got comedian Tony Baker. Welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
What's something man?

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
How you feeling good?

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I feel great.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
First time I met you, I wasn't here. The first
time he came in war the back I was traveling.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
He was hiding from it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Man, I wasn't I was going to ask you the
hard hitting question.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Sorry, I really didn't.

Speaker 12 (01:09:43):
How you feeling, brother, I'm good man. You're blessed to
be out here. I love coming to New York. I
can never uh, I never get enough time out here,
though it's always a quick in and out. I want
to be out here for like a month.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
You said driving in New York makes you balder? Yeah, man,
how did you come too?

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Because I'm really move from I rented the car I shouldn't.
That's around now.

Speaker 12 (01:10:03):
I flew in, I rented a car and then I
drove from JFK to Manhattan and I was like, I
knew nothing from the.

Speaker 15 (01:10:10):
Airport, even the people that live here. You take a
car or yeah, it was it was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
A big mistake. I lost out my head.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
It was luxurious, had a full I had a full
head before you came in, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
But I love when you do your ten thoughts of
the day, man, because like you put a fat Joe
don't let people talk.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
He don't let nobody talk.

Speaker 10 (01:10:27):
Man.

Speaker 12 (01:10:27):
I'll be watching him and Jada man, Jada, Jada be
saying five words of episode.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
But I watched every episode history.

Speaker 15 (01:10:34):
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
I love it. I'm glad they did it. But uh,
the way Jada reacts to Joe, it's crazy, crazy and
so but Joe don't let people talk, man. He come in, man.
He rolled all over Jim Jones as soon as the
episode started.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah, yeah, but except when it came to the nods conversation, Yeah, conversation,
let him talk.

Speaker 12 (01:10:58):
No he did than I he did, and then he
was like, but then Jim Jones put his foot in
his mouth when he was like put the billboards up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
And then that's the way messed up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know why that's even
the conversation. Like you know what I mean, Like I
love I like Jim. I love Jim Jones a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
I think Jim Jones has been putting out some of
the best music from Sure and over the last several years,
probably the best music from up from New York until
now I started dropping those Kings Diseases.

Speaker 12 (01:11:25):
That's right there. Now, this is my favorite rapper of
all time. And with that hit boy Run, that just
solidified his spots for me. Yeah, because that late in
the game, making albums that hot, I don't know who
else has done that, and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Making it for people our age, yeah, I don't even know.
Don't get around Scarf facing ja Z can still make
great music.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
And Common. There's a lot of guys over in that
age that make great sure, but.

Speaker 12 (01:11:47):
They put out like you know one like you know
Common and Pete Rod did a phenomenal job.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
But it's just be like you know in the series,
the series, but now still gets busy down.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
That the sixth albums, Yeah, they were all good.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
You ain't gonna when his first Grammy crazy. You ain't
gonna get that one. He was overdue.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
So yeah, he my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
You said a shot.

Speaker 12 (01:12:09):
He has a great laugh, she do, she'd be laughing,
And I'm a comedian, so I'll be looking for the laugh.
Like you know, I feed off there like y'all just
sitting there taking it. I'm like, man, I remember audition
for S and L a few years back, and they
were just sitting in the shadows.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Gave me nothing. I was up there giving one hundred
and thousand percent. Man, they were just sitting in the shadows.
That was It was just silhouettes.

Speaker 12 (01:12:29):
They was sitting there like he's sitting right now, just
with robes on, just looking squinty eye.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Yeah, full commitment.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Nothing.

Speaker 15 (01:12:37):
Ain't what auditions are like. Though they normally don't give
you much in all.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
They give me something.

Speaker 12 (01:12:41):
Man, I'm gonna stay just saying lie, I can see
if it was a drama like I'm doing the Viola
David scene, I then lost the kids, you know what
I'm saying. So you was sweating like I was up
there giving it all I had and they was like
I don't even know if I got that, and they
were silhouetted.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
How do you leave that they were silhouetted.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Yeah, I couldn't see.

Speaker 12 (01:13:01):
All I saw was bodies and it was just like
it was like they was all on gang Land confessing
about the crimes and you just couldn't see nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
And I was like, all right, dangn thanks for having me, y'all.
You ever got any cheeks because you told a girl
she had a great laugh?

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
I don't think so.

Speaker 12 (01:13:16):
Yeah, I can't remember that being the reason. Like, Man,
you got a great laugh, and then the panties dropped, because.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
They always have you a comedian. If you can make
them laugh, you can crack the ass. So I always
wanted I wanted you making them laugh and then you
give them that compliment. Did that do something for him?

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:13:34):
Usually I give that compliment in the moment, like during
the show Man, you got a great laugh. That happened
to me in Austin last weekend. She had a great laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
But you could just be doing that because you want
the cry to keep laughing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
No, she really had a good one, though.

Speaker 12 (01:13:44):
It was like a residual hold over laugh because some
audiences laugh real quick and then.

Speaker 15 (01:13:49):
Hush, and I hate those I think people were in
an audience that you heard.

Speaker 12 (01:13:52):
Just her laugh, Like she was in the front row
and she was like and it was like I would
say something that Joe had finished and she's still giggling.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
And then the tear White. Well I got the laugh
in the tear White. This is I need to clone
her and just bring up every show, the Austin show.
It was Austin. Yeah, I was the Austin last week
and you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Said you would have canceled the show if you knew
they had a serial killer. They're a serial killer. I
didn't know that. I ain't see that nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
They got a serial killer allegedly out there. It's a
whole bunch of men.

Speaker 12 (01:14:18):
They've been finding men at this lake called Ladybird Lake
and just you know, dead dudes, and they're thinking like
they be capturing them because it's a lot of like
partying around there, like drinking, and so they've been founding
these bodies, like they found three.

Speaker 15 (01:14:33):
Weeks ago it was thirty eight bodies found.

Speaker 18 (01:14:34):
Thirty rumors rife as thirty eight bodies found in and
around Ladybird Lake.

Speaker 15 (01:14:39):
So far, this is they've been.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Quiet on these serial killers. This was one a Long
Island too, Yes, recently.

Speaker 15 (01:14:45):
Yes, it's not nobody to go to Long Island.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
This what kind of dad though? Just dad? Like no,
like Booty, they didn't say the causes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Does it matter?

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Yes, I don't even know what's going on, like anything missing,
Like I'm saying, like you just killing people and just
putting the body there like nothing.

Speaker 12 (01:15:00):
There's no motive, no, because usually they got an m
like you know they would killed this way. But I
don't take you know what I mean, like no souvenirs,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Mark of a serial killer. Okay, so you really felt unsafe?

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Okay, I went to the scene of the crime.

Speaker 18 (01:15:17):
Yeah, hold on, but wait, I mean because the thirty
eight I mean, this is no normal. I'm not gonna
say that's gonna sound sensitive.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Nerman gonna sign insensitive problem.

Speaker 15 (01:15:28):
Yeah, that's what I meant.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
That's what I said.

Speaker 15 (01:15:30):
I was gonna say. The thirty eight bodies is over
three years.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Long, a lot of short period of time. I told you.

Speaker 15 (01:15:38):
I didn't want to say.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Y'all mean, oh got you got you?

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 18 (01:15:41):
Yes, But but when you say serial killer, I'm thinking
like holl like with like a Jeffrey Dahmers like everything's
back to back to back to back to back space.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Not long it took them to catch Jeffrey Donald for
the movie.

Speaker 15 (01:15:51):
See it was like an hour.

Speaker 11 (01:15:54):
Took a while.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Jeffrey Donald was killing people for at least several years.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Did the right early on they pulled him over and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
He trump.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Yeah, if he was black, he would have get caught immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Absolutely definite to check that you got.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Half a victim he was black.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Now you said Jeffrey Donald was out for thirteen years
from seventy eight to ninety one, he would have first
him in seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Broad what serious killer?

Speaker 18 (01:16:21):
But like he's a little dormant, like you were fine,
but okay, but no, he's very on. It's not funny
because people have died.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Nobody laugh nobody laughing, but you nobody said it was funny.

Speaker 15 (01:16:31):
You know what you continue on?

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Okay, let me shut up in this one. Now, he said,
did he might get off?

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
I think well, they you know, they changed it. What
they uh they dropped some of the charges.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
The charge long. I know you the question on this
hold on one quick, real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Yes, you know Jeffrey Dama killed seventeen people in thirteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
So Austin got thirty eight.

Speaker 15 (01:16:54):
You know the timeline on Jeffrey Donald. I thought it
was way quicker.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Thirty eight Is.

Speaker 15 (01:17:01):
That numbers?

Speaker 18 (01:17:02):
It's all they're trying to figure out the number. It's
still reports and rumors claim. Someone is saying Austin police,
they're still trying to figure out the numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
And at least Doma was eating the men. Not but
you said, like, what is this guy doing? Whoever this
person is could be a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Could be a woman, yeah, could could be a woman
because it's all men. She got to be a diesel
woman because you got to carry them into the lake. Right.

Speaker 12 (01:17:27):
What's weird about the awesome thing is I can't find
like causes of death, Like they've been finding them in
the in the water, maybe drowning or whatever.

Speaker 18 (01:17:35):
So it's like, but they the numbers keep changing. It's nineteen,
and it's thirty eight, then it's thirty eight, then it's nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
But you know, we don't even know how they're dying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
No, no, they have it listed, damn.

Speaker 7 (01:17:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:17:46):
The causes of death have been mainly attributed to accidental drownings.
But the second thing that they're saying is potential suicide
as well as drug overdose and natural causes.

Speaker 15 (01:17:56):
And this is just for uh two teams that were found.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Where did you get the serial.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Killing themselves?

Speaker 18 (01:18:04):
That many times the articles are seeing serial killer, but
then the Austin police are saying they're denying the rumors
of it being a serial killer.

Speaker 15 (01:18:11):
But at the same time they're still investigating.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Yeah, we're still.

Speaker 13 (01:18:13):
Kicking the with comedian Tony Baker. Now, before I go
to Diddy, you said you you pay attention to a
woman's hands.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Why I just do, Like, I look at the woman's hands.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
They're not big.

Speaker 12 (01:18:23):
No, it's just always look, you know, because a lot
of women take care of their hands, Like Lauren has
great hands in the finger in, the finger length and
the moisturization and stuff like that. I pay attention to that,
the nails, all that good stuff, especially when they be
taking selfies and they be holding the phone a certain way.
I always look at the hands, y'all, don't be looking at.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
The woman's hands.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
I'm married, David married.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Well at your wife's saying, did y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Ever look at it all all the time?

Speaker 12 (01:18:48):
Remember that Seinfeld episode when he was dating the girl
with the man hands.

Speaker 15 (01:18:52):
What does that mean?

Speaker 12 (01:18:54):
Yeah, no, she had man hands. She was a woman
in the episode, but her hands was like you could
tell it was a big manhand when she would reach
over to him and she wanted to wipe some food
off his cheek and he was like, no, I'm good,
and then you just see a big, robust hand.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Come on your ten thousand a day. You said, a
wet handshake makes my soul weather. So what if it's
a beautiful woman with nice hands with her hands are wet.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Yeah, the wet hands, it's just gross.

Speaker 12 (01:19:20):
I can't deal with it, especially if we if we're
gonna be talking, we're gonna be intimate, it's gonna be
a wet hand all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
She's gonna be massaging me with a wet hand.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Or what if it's wet because she because you got
her like that and she been putting her hand on
the playing with that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
He did it like that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
He could have just said it without.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
The visual representation. But no, a wet handshake is the
worst though.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Yeah, Like, if I know you got a.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Wet daft I'm gonna pound you up after that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
I hate to do with the one nail. That one nail.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Scratch you like cut that. I hate dapping dudes with
the long nail. Yeah, like, man, you a vampire.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
The one long pig is for the coke.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
That's where the coach.

Speaker 12 (01:19:59):
I'm like, if you ain't doing and that, then you
better be a vampire. If you scratched me up into dap.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Damn and women be looking at it is disrespectful. I
think about that all the time. You washing hands, Like
if I know my hands even a little dap, I
tell it. I tell you, like now my hand, damn,
I give you an elbows. Disrespectful, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Come around the corner with random wetness, gross.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Like repete on yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Yeah, get man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
And the thing that you got to look out for
that you don't never realize is you know, you know
sometimes you might just be walking in tugy penis. But
and then like like you know, if you have the
house of something of your tugy penis and somebody walk in,
give them you don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
Like wrong penis touff like wrong like inside the tug that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
You walk around this tugget peenus just.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Just randomly why it's a long story, but when I
was younger, I had bought these pills called Magna RX.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
They seem like we all do it, but.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Now like outside the clothing adjustment.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
You just like when I was young, I had bought
these pills called Magna RX, and it's supposed to be
pills to make your penis bigger. And so one of
the things that they told you when you buy the
Magna X is you read it. They told you do
this little extra side when you tug on it when
it's flasted. And so that's just a habit I've had
since I was young.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
I respect the fact that you admitted that you get
the penis enlargement.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Man. No, I ordered them out the back of double
X lup.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Yeah, I don't know. Actually, oh I was early twenty,
but I don't know what they were. I don't know.
That's a good question.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
You don't measure.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
I've been seven inches three four for a long time.
When it's eight, when it's summertime.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
You don't measure, envy, No, why not?

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
I've been married for so long.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Marriage The truth never, you ain't never measured.

Speaker 15 (01:21:39):
No, you said like you do off every year every year.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Yeah, make sure ain't no fun and games happening. I
measured annually.

Speaker 15 (01:21:46):
You've seen changes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
No, it's usually consistent.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
But when you get older, you get older and naturally and.

Speaker 12 (01:21:53):
So you get short. And I'm like, all right, let
me see what's happening. Yeah, yeah, I'm measured every year.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
I just don't know when that when they I know
they say when you get older. I just don't know
when birthday. By the way, thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you. So I'm the only person that do a
little little little tug when it's flashed.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Raw tug is wild, especially like where you be here,
you be at home?

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Who tug crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
That's crazy? Whose raw tug is wild?

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Speaking of Ditty, you said Diddy might get off, right,
he was speaking goddamn Diddy, God damn Diddy. And the
thoughts of the day. You said Diddy might get off.
What's your thoughts on Diddy? Because were they were dropping
some charges and I was like, oh, Tony, that's Lauren.

Speaker 15 (01:22:42):
They backed away from theories.

Speaker 17 (01:22:44):
Uh.

Speaker 18 (01:22:45):
Basically, the way that the jury was instructed to deliberate
was like, don't worry too much about this because this
is where we're stronger at.

Speaker 15 (01:22:52):
But no charges have actually been drying.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Okay, So false headlines, yes.

Speaker 15 (01:22:56):
Okay, but did you think he was coming home before that?

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
I thought he was going in.

Speaker 15 (01:23:01):
Now you don't think he's going in.

Speaker 12 (01:23:02):
Once they said that, they was like, they're dropping the
was it sex trafficking? There was like a few that
they had.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Arson and the kidnapping.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
I think yeah, the arson, kidnapping and the sex trafficking
was I was like, oh, it sounds like he might.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Yeah, they ain't dropping none of those.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Well, then he going in.

Speaker 12 (01:23:17):
He going somewhere like I don't know how long he getting,
but he getting something. You put a Paul him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
God sounded crazy, how long he gonna be? But he
getting something?

Speaker 15 (01:23:30):
You posted only because y'all been in here tripping on the.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Hall Paul's episode.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
He might get off? Why get off?

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
Did he might get off?

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Yeah? I know what you meant. I don't think that needed.
The just felt like just the whole case.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
He just gotta just got to put a button on
the ten thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
What do you think when you when you heard that
he allegedly likes men seemen on his nipples?

Speaker 15 (01:23:56):
He does you ain't hurt nothing else but them?

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Charge of job that he's like men seeming on his nipple.

Speaker 15 (01:24:03):
That's one of the girls alleged No, not a girl.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Kathy said that he's not joking. He jokes like he
did not joking.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
This is true, this is real. This is what said.
That's wild business, Doug, that's wild. I ain't know that.
I mean, we're all into summer.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
I guess I ain't nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
It's something you be. You be tugging raw whole foods.
You know what I'm saying. You're liable to do anything
at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
That would sound crazy in a court game, right he was.
He was tugging raw and wholeful.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
In the self served part where you make your own plate.
Man's wild.

Speaker 15 (01:24:43):
When you walk in your local Hoo Foods down, they're
gonna look at you so different.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
I don't go Whole Foods. I go on Weamon, Who
would you say? You are hopeful too expensive?

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
It is expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Sure, whoe Men is spensive too, but it's hopefull. He
walks into the Wegmans. Hopeful is different, disrespectful, expensive, especially.

Speaker 12 (01:25:04):
When you build your own and you weigh it, they'd
be like thirty seven dollars for your rice and your
little potato ball.

Speaker 13 (01:25:10):
They're still kicking it with comedian Tony Baker Charlamagne, Who would.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
You say you are outside of comedy?

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
This is a dad.

Speaker 12 (01:25:18):
Just regularly, I'll be playing game. I'm a movie nerd
for sure, thousand percent. Yeah, outside of comedy. I'm an
actor too. So I started out acting before the comedy
and then I just started doing stand up and I
was like, oh, I got more control over my career
with this, so, you know, just a naturally funny dude.
I denied the funny growing up because my brother's never

(01:25:38):
laughed at me, so I felt like I wasn't funny.
So then I would go to school and they'd be laughing,
but it never registered.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
So I was just like whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
That's why being a comedian it's so tough, because it's
like you need that validation. How you talked about and
you did that s and L and you didn't get
no laughter from them. And then you said your brothers
didn't laugh at you, So how did you know you
was funny?

Speaker 12 (01:25:58):
I found out people were saying it, but it still
just didn't register. It was just like, girls be like
you funny, like when you're young. I didn't want to
be funny to the girls. You know this before I
knew funny, was you know funny, and I'm like, man,
I'm trying to be cool, and like, you know what
I'm saying, I'm trying to holler.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
But then.

Speaker 12 (01:26:17):
Then when I was going through college and stuff and
hosting shows and all that stuff, and this random girl
pulled me to the side and was like, yeah, hilarious.
I was like, who are you and she was like,
I saw you host that an MC battle thing. And
so then that's when it registered, because she pulled me
out of nowhere. I was at a common concert for
Electric Circuits tour and she said that, and then it

(01:26:37):
just always stuck. Man, you know what I'm saying, I
might be funny for real, even though people have been
saying it for years, it just never registered. And so
and then I used that once I moved to LA
for acting, and I was like, man, maybe I should
try to stand up as a way, you know, to
get rolls and stuff. And then I did stand up
one time and just kept going ever since.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Remember your wors show always talk about you showing your best.

Speaker 12 (01:27:00):
Hell yeah, I remember I bombed out here in uh
in the Bronx at Rob Stapleton's room.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Of course, Rob Stapleton, who was I'm sure it was
there talent, they weren't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
They weren't there that night. It was just Rob. It
was a salsa confuego his shor.

Speaker 12 (01:27:17):
And I went in there. I wasn't planning on going up.
I asked shorts on me and my ex girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
We were just there. I just wanted to see the
room because I know Rob for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Let me just goe people through it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
So I'm just sitting there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
He's like, yo, doing you want to go up?

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
I was like, nah, you know what I'm saying. We're
just chilling, you know what I'm saying. And then he
came back and I was like, oh, I really don't
want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
I ask shorts, basketball shorts that just had on, like
some jeans shorts and it was hard to talking, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
It was you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (01:27:46):
If you're not Gabriel Glaciers, put some pants on and
so uh So I was just like, nah, you know,
I didn't want to say no, but I was trying
to say no.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Then he came back a third time.

Speaker 12 (01:27:55):
He was like, yo, man, it five minutes of ice
like and then my girl was like just five minutes
and I was all right, man, I do five minutes
went up there, man, telling my jokes.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
I went up there with the good material and they
was just distracted.

Speaker 12 (01:28:09):
They was on their phone. I was just like, damn,
I'm a bit a tanking. It was other comedians up there, like, man,
let's see what Tony Baker is all about the al.
This one made the ale official. After I did that
medio cassette before I get off stage, robbers like, nah, man,
come in, Tom, y'all don't understand, man, this dude's funny. Man, Damn,
the nail in the coffin. I was a skeleton in

(01:28:30):
his arms at that point. I was dead on the ride.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Man, y'all, don't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Man, Zip me up, zip up my bag and throw
me in the corner truck.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
That was the nail in the coffin.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Man, what'd you tell your girl when you walked up?
And then I told you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
I was like, man, I had the shorts on, and
you said, and then that's why we broke up. That's
not why we broke up.

Speaker 12 (01:28:50):
But I got revenge in Brooklyn like the next night.
But uh, that was that was like the latest bomb that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Sticks with me.

Speaker 12 (01:28:57):
I remember my first one that was at the Jay
spot in Inglewood and I went up there and it
was a black room, kind of hood hoodish, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
I went up there, did my material.

Speaker 12 (01:29:07):
They was just like you know what I'm saying, You
know what I'm saying. And then I got off stage.
Comedian was like, look like he just got out of jam.
Was like, I'm gonna do comedy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Crowd laughed. I was like, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
So I took that l down where I was like, Yo,
I'm gonna get revenge anytime I take an AL. I
want revenge. I want another show. So I went up
there a second time, did worse than the first time
at him double l LLL cool JL Ron Hulbert and
then this this how official AL was.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
The dude was looking at me in the front row
and he was just looking at me.

Speaker 12 (01:29:38):
And then he just turned to the side and looked
at this girl like what's up with tonight? And I
heard him say it, and I was just like god
damn because he just turned He was like, man, what's
up with tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
What you to say? Nothing? You took me to this
black ass comedy show. The best you can take me?

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Been a skeleton again?

Speaker 12 (01:29:54):
Man? I had pants on, yeah, but I remember the
als Man, but they're always funnier than the winds though.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Yeah, you know, you were one of the first to
blend stand up and social media in a way to
me that didn't feel false.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Yeah, but how did you avoid the trap of, like,
you know, saying, you know what they say, I suck
on stage. I'm just gonna I'm gonna go full time influencer.

Speaker 12 (01:30:15):
Oh no, like stand up for me is everything, Like
I just used social media just to get you to
come to my should And so, you know, when I
was doing the voiceovers heavy my following exploded the animal voiceover. Yeah,
and so once I started doing that, you know now
and now the stand up clips are in. But once
I started doing the voiceovers, I was like, good, come

(01:30:37):
see me live.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
They they never want you to do that on stage,
like animal voice Tony.

Speaker 12 (01:30:42):
This lady said that recently my shows in Detroit. She
was like, I thought you were gonna do like some
animal stuff. I was like, that don't translate on stage.
She's just like, man, I just thought she was gonna
do something. And I think I think the white audience
looks at me like that a little bit, you know,
because they come expecting one thing.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Like the cats. You know what I'm saying. Black folks
get it. But she was white lady, and.

Speaker 12 (01:31:05):
I was like, hell, no home, dude, what I'm gonna
do on stage? You know, I do talk about animals.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
And stuff like that, But man, if I was at
a show and I saw somebody bombing and then they
broke out in the animal voice, oh my god, I
wouldn't die.

Speaker 12 (01:31:19):
I'd be like, cute up the video and just do that,
just like a random cat video, and I'm just sitting
there like, man, I would be dead inside skeleton again.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Just put the shorts on me, because I love. I'm
not gonna front.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
When somebody's doing really really good, I'm silent because I'm listening. Actually,
that's why I love watching stand up on TV, because
there's nobody around you to laugh over what the next
joke might be. You know, sometimes comedians y'all tell jokes
and then it'll be just like a something small. You'll
sandy your breath, but you'll miss it because everybody laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
So I like to listen.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
So when somebody's really good, I'm like, like really intently
listening and might chuckle.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
But when somebody's bombing, I'm dying.

Speaker 12 (01:32:03):
I don't know the words. I don't know why, man,
I'll be feeling bad. I hate laughing at the bomb
because I too could be a victim of the bomb.
You know, no comedians is above the bomb. Every comedian
is bomb. So I'm always scared the karma is gonna
come back. So I just be like, damn man. But
if a comedian is cocky and they bomb, I love it.
Oh I'll be I'll be eating it up back there.

(01:32:25):
I'll be be a full course meal. But like you
thought she was just gonna go up that rip.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
I think the thing that makes me laughing I like
seeing people trying to dig their way out of that hole.

Speaker 12 (01:32:35):
If you don't ask you up there taking the air,
I'll be like, he loves that, like he loves this show.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
He always talks about the God don't do that. I'm
not going to say the person, but he talks about
the show all the time. Who is you? That's my man?
And he's over that. He don't got to scrub from
the internet.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Wait, somebody bombs at the garden years years.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
Years, Yes, but it was so funny. I mean, the
best one ever.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Dang, that's an epic bomb.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
No that's my guy. I don't want to bring that
up now. I'll tell you late. I tell you super funny.
By the way, is super four years he just had a.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Bad is he black?

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
He's been around for this.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Did that one show? Was just yeah, he's been it's
like fifteen years ago. Trying to figure it out. What
do you have on? What city? He doing? You come
on every every eight years?

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
You come up here nine years? No, I was here? Uh,
last time I was in New York? Was was it Caroline?

Speaker 12 (01:33:35):
So I want to say twenty twenty two? Maybe maybe
it was twenty one twenty Caroline's closing. Yeah, so I
think that was the last time I came out here.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Solo.

Speaker 12 (01:33:46):
Me and Kevin going on on tour. Me and Kevil
on stage, going on tour in September, the Ball Brothers
Tour starting September through November. You can get tickets on
Kevi on stage dot com right now. It's gonna be
on more links to but we start.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
That in September.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
That's dope man, traveling to traveling the country, getting money
with your friends.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
It's the best, just the best.

Speaker 12 (01:34:07):
That's what I want to doing stand up and we
appreciate you for joining us, Tony, thanks for having me, and.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Subscribe to Tony's podcast to wherever you listen to podcasts.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
At Yes, Verbal Cardio get in on that, and we
got the Ball Brothers podcast as well.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Well, it's the Breakfast Club. It's Tony Baker.

Speaker 13 (01:34:21):
Yes, warning, everybody's DJ n V, Jess Hilarius, Charlamane God.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
We are the Breakfast Club. Now you got a positive note.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
Positive note is simply this, and this is something that
I live by. It's a quote that I love. The
content of your character is your choice day by day.
What you choose, what you think, and what you do
is who you become.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Have a great day, Breakfast Club, bitch, is you don'na
finish or y'all done

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