The Breakfast Club BEST OF(Patientce Foster, Chris Brickley, And Nina Parker & KevOnStage Interview)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jess Hilario, Labor Day.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, it is absolutely right. It's absolutely Labor Day Day. Okay,
and we're not really here, but we have an amazing
best of show for you today.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's not even really the best of. Oh we got
some new interviews, got new interviews. We got patients will
be joining us. Okay, patience, this is Foster. Yes, Cardi
B's brand manager.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh, we never beaten the Cardi B payroll allegations. Oh yeah,
they gonna swear we on the payroll. We got Cardi
B's brand manager.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
And I'm gonna have to walk out halfway through to
show people that I'm not really riding all the way.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
That means that they only give you the front end.
That's right, Okay, got you got you.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Gave you the back Listen.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I want to tell everybody too.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I only remind people in Chalton, South Carolina that today
at noon, the International African American Museum is going to
be absolutely free.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Myself and the Black Effect Podcast Network sponsored a free
day at the International African American Museum in Charleston starting
at noon today. So if you off the Labor Day,
gather the kids and you know, go to the International
African American Museum starting today at noon.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
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Chris Brickley of being the building as well.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
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Speaker 3 (01:39):
All right, let's get the show cracking. It's the Breakfast
Club morning. This is your time to get it off
your chest. Eight hundred and five eight five one, five
to one. We want to hear from you on the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Hello. Who's this?

Speaker 7 (01:52):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Heymy hey Jamie? What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Get it off your chest?

Speaker 8 (01:55):
Hey? How you doing? I just want I wanted to
get on here and excuse me.

Speaker 9 (01:59):
I might be a roy nervous.

Speaker 8 (02:00):
I ain't never called the radio station before, but uh,
I just want to sing a little.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Song for y'all real quick.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
All right there, brother, and it's my birthday.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Birthday.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
You're from Baltimore, Thank you, thank you? How yeah you're
from Baltimore.

Speaker 9 (02:12):
I'm definitely from Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
That's definite, ain't it ain't no?

Speaker 4 (02:14):
What's up? No, you can't not from don't.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Go ahead say something for a show, all right?

Speaker 8 (02:27):
Yeah, there's so many things I die to tell you.
Bird almost free. I don't know how mm hmmm, because
there's a postive visited that you look at me different
news ever since that first moment I spoomed from me No,

(02:57):
I m my bye.

Speaker 10 (03:04):
The change love esus.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Okay, shuty, all right.

Speaker 8 (03:11):
Okay, your name is Bang? What else youthing?

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Trying to finish the hook me?

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Don't do me?

Speaker 11 (03:26):
All right?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
What else you do? You need to be saying? Trade school?
I need to.

Speaker 12 (03:35):
Stop playing my man.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
You need to find something else. You have a great one, bro,
Like what else you do besides sing? Thank you?

Speaker 10 (03:46):
For uh?

Speaker 9 (03:47):
I played ball for real in college now in college
right now, I got a little girl for real though.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Oh you don't do nothing play ball in school and
see yo yo, yeah twenty three.

Speaker 8 (04:00):
Now I'm from Baltimore, vent.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Now I'm in Florida. What you doing in Florida?

Speaker 8 (04:04):
Uh? Telling work?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know, working? Got job?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Hey, Yo, ain't no such thing as a regular job. Brother,
You got a job. That's a good day. You're working
at the marryout. You're making a living man for sure.

Speaker 12 (04:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (04:20):
I went to all to see me out here.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I want to see me man, Yes, sir, I'm wishing
the best.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
For you, absolutely, and God bless you.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
Man and Baltimore if you listen, to make sure you
get your tickets for the show. I'm gonna be at
Baltimore Comedy Factory the first weekend in September. September fifth
through the seventh, Men Dazzi Alexander. So get your tickets
now at just Alaria's official dot com. We got six
shows Friday, Saturday and Sunday, two each night.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
All right, get it off your chest.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Eight hundred and five eighty five one O five one.
If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's
the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 13 (04:52):
Ray right, Ray Yo, Charlotte, Man.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
What up are we lying?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
This is your time to get it off your chest?

Speaker 5 (04:58):
I got an indoor poll.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast club.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Get on the phone right now, he'll tell you what
it is.

Speaker 8 (05:04):
We live.

Speaker 9 (05:05):
Hello, who's this It's Sydney.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Hey, Sydney Lauren, and happy birthday, belated, thank.

Speaker 8 (05:12):
You so much, thank you.

Speaker 13 (05:14):
So I'm head to get my chest. I had a
it was my thirty thirty and I I this, like,
let's say, thirty.

Speaker 10 (05:23):
People and literally only nine sold.

Speaker 13 (05:25):
Up, and they left me with a bill.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Dangn what and it was your dirty thirty.

Speaker 13 (05:31):
It was my thirty thirty.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Y'all went out to dinner. You had a dinner and
they and only nine people showed up. You invited thirty people,
nine showed up, and he let.

Speaker 13 (05:38):
No, truly, I'm just so just a beautiful restaurant in
the Bronx from Miaspar and grill. So I kind of
went it off the back section to have and it
was gonna be open bar. You just had to pay
one hundred dollars. But you know, I got to give
him a headcount to know how much you know.

Speaker 9 (05:53):
Food, to make how many people?

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 13 (05:56):
I give him the head thinking people's gonna pop up,
you know, and they kind of did that, and they
kind of stuck me with that bill.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
That was three thousand dollars a hundred to pop and
only nine so you so you got to come out
of your pocket with twenty one hundred.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
Hey Jaffrey, jesus, I'm so sorry, and I'm still I.

Speaker 13 (06:13):
Had to put it on the payment plan.

Speaker 14 (06:14):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 13 (06:15):
I come, I ain't got it.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I tell you, I understand. And they knew that too.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
And if they knew that they wasn't.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Going, how can you even show up somewhere not having
no money and it's the birthday girl birthday?

Speaker 13 (06:26):
No it was him, and that they didn't even show
up with no money. They said it was coming and
just didn't show up.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
So they are repeat and everything all that. Damn.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
I'm so sorry. But you see you look going and
see your thirties. You see you gotta leave some people
back in the twenties.

Speaker 13 (06:41):
No, yah, yeah, I don't trust me.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I'll say that now.

Speaker 13 (06:44):
So fun that Nexsary, I cussed everybody out.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh you want to sell all your friends that didn't
show up? You want to you want to issue on
them this morning? You want to say their names?

Speaker 13 (06:53):
Well I know one of them because they got a
definite family. But you know what people didn't show up,
and I'm like, at least you gonna pay me the bill,
send me something to pay for this bill. I was
everybody I caught across, y'all send me something to me
at least had to call and pay this bill because
this ain't me.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
You really, but you do realize they don't really like
you though.

Speaker 13 (07:11):
Right, damn thanks Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
They didn't show up, Like, did they give valid reasons?
What was the reason that.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
One person gave a valid reason?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
They had a definite family and everybody else is just
I mean, they haven't everybody.

Speaker 13 (07:25):
I just I didn't even tell you that. I'm sure
I didn't even care about that explanation or whatever. I
just had to at least pay something, give me something
because they cause.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
You tell them that it was one hundred dollars or
you just said pull little, it was a.

Speaker 13 (07:39):
Sire everything, one hundred dollars open bar food. Yeah, it
was a hope fer. I didn't just tell them pull
up and that, No, you gotta pres you gotta prep
some people. And everybody got it. You know, some people
you know pressed and you know, save their money and stuff.
But no, I didn't just tell him to, you know,
talk I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
At least the rest of my did a payment plan.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Most restaurants would have probably lost, you know, at least
they did a payment plan.

Speaker 12 (08:04):
I know.

Speaker 13 (08:05):
That's what I'm saying. He's very good and it's a
food is delicious. Maya's part of the restaurant on East
if you're ever to go, but I want to bless.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, Maya's apartment a little bit. You know, only nine
people ate, only nine people drink.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Maya's help her out a little bit if fault, I know, but.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't do it. Goddamn thing is helping me.

Speaker 13 (08:31):
He is helping me and he's working with me. So
he said, I just want to shout out his just
one because he's the dope person.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Go go to her mind, Maybe Mike take on some more.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah, that's what's.

Speaker 8 (08:41):
Saying that to No.

Speaker 13 (08:43):
Can I took for my cash in case somebody want
to bless me and feel desperate for girl.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Man, this is crazy, Charlotte, everything going on in the world,
and you're really going to ask people for your cash
because people didn't show up your birthday party.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Come on now, no, it's not even that is because
she got a whole big ass bill to pay by herself.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
She should have better friends that actually like her. Well
she doesn't.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
She just found out the ass the public to cover
that bill. No, God, bless you, sweetheart, We love you.
Have a great day, you know in the radio and
ass the public to send something to your cash should be.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
For dire needs, bro, Yeah, like not this, come on, man?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
No, but what if she has dire needs that she
can't take.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
Care of because she had to pay.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
She should have thought about that before she could at it.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Maybe should have had a smaller function on once again,
have some friends that actually like.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
You, friends that actually liked you, take you out for
your birthday.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
Exactly, or it shouldn't have been at mice because one
hundred dollars is steep for one night when people ain't
got it right now, she should go to Corral in
the Bronx that.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was like twenty good you'd have been good that
Damn I agree, damn damn sorry mama.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Well, if I had your cash, a do something, get
it off your chest eight hundred and five eight five.
If you need event, hit us up now. It's the
breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Gome morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Warning, everybody's d j n V just hilarious charlamage the
God we are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Laura La Rosa is here with us, and we got
some special guests in the boland this morning.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
The host of the new show Friday Night Vibes on TBS.
What the new host Friday Night Vibes on TVs.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Dina Parker Kevin I walked that up because you know,
keV didn't talk about that last time he was here.
And I saw Nina and Chance, and Nina was like,
Nina was like, I don't know why he was up
there and did not mention that we're in a new home.

Speaker 15 (10:37):
Friday Night may be having tunnel vision, so you got
all these other projects he was. I watched the interview
and I was so excited, like, I can't wait till
he mentions Friday Night viox because we were in the
middle of filming Friday Night Vibes.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
About it man, Friday Night Friday Night Vibes, and.

Speaker 15 (10:53):
I had just did tring Hall and I was like, Keith,
I mentioned you and shout at you out and showed
your picture on the back.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I feel, I mean ghastling, I said at first, So
it means it's true.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Baby, that's just not who you are because you know
one of your best friends was up here right just like.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Just right here, And when we told him that you
were coming, he was like, he didn't even tell me
he was here in New York.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
He was like, we were playing pool and friendship.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
We saw Tony just in the grind, like, what are
you doing here?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Shown they didn't tell me he was doing the breakfast clo.

Speaker 15 (11:25):
But men don't share details like that, Like if it
would have been me and my homegirl, we would have
been like at the hotel having breakfast before we came over.
I feel like y'all just see each other when you see.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
To He had to show in New York. I didn't
know that I got tickets to a show, surprising.

Speaker 13 (11:38):
I was gonna pull up on right.

Speaker 16 (11:42):
Ticket always by my I don't even play that. I'm
not trying to hear it. Don't hear me because people
you ain't even cool with, like what's up on the ticket?
Kevo stays dot com.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's what we're talking with them. My parents buy tickets
to my show.

Speaker 15 (11:56):
I want to support, but then they want you to
give up the ticket.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, that ain't support. Parents buy tickets to your show.

Speaker 16 (12:01):
Your parents refuse to get free tickets. They're like, I
believe in you and what you're doing. I'll go get tickets.

Speaker 14 (12:09):
They won't make sure they got loan you no money
ever again?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
No, well yes, like you keep doing good. So you
know what I'm saying, need you to make it.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
You know, they're not just testing you just to see
if you're gonna say no, no, no, y'all done enough,
I got you.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
No, they buy them. They support for the next show.

Speaker 16 (12:31):
My friends, I don't mind. It's people I don't know.
We ain't got a relationship. You trying to get the
free tickets? Man, Nah, okay, it's like a hookup. When
I work in Popey's. I give my friends a hook up,
not everybody like some of the biscuits.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
You see the price, that's true. How did this come together?

Speaker 15 (12:45):
You know what's crazy? We actually chem tested together. Kevin
and I knew each other only on social media, like
I was a fan of his work and we had
never met, so we would, you know, exchange on social media.
And then you know, the show used to be hosted
by Tiffany Hattius and Dione Cole. They were revamping it
and so they did like a big casting call. So
when we got called. And sometimes when you get to

(13:06):
a certain level, you're like, oh, I still got a
KYMP test.

Speaker 11 (13:08):
Okay.

Speaker 15 (13:09):
I was like, So we did the KYM test and
it was it was actually like a family reunion. It
was about twenty about what, fifteen women, fifteen men. Yeah,
and we were kim testing with our friends. So it
was like a big dat trouble.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
It took all day long.

Speaker 16 (13:24):
Yeah, it was like you you spend five minutes with
this person and the okay, y'all done and this person
and when Nina and I went, it was like this
sounds cliche, but I was like, I forgot we were
even auditioning.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
We were just chopping it up and they stopped us.
We're like, okay, cool.

Speaker 15 (13:37):
I was like this, we got this. Like there's sometimes
I feel like you get that little voice because you
know when you're when you're in this industry, you just
know when something that is magic. And we were sitting
next to each other and it was so easy with him.
And I've had a lot of co hosts over the years,
and keV is by far like the easiest person I've.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Ever worked with. Oh that's an ultimate compliment. By the way,
it's not.

Speaker 15 (13:59):
It's not to him. It's his life.

Speaker 8 (14:00):
Wullis right.

Speaker 15 (14:02):
Because his wife is he knows how to there is
a there's a dance, as you guys know. And then
when you have like a co host who knows how
to communicate in a healthy way with a woman, it's
just like even like he'll be like do you.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Need to sit?

Speaker 15 (14:16):
I'm like what because I used to people being like
get off the way, and it's just he's very kind.
So it just makes it so easy to work with.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Nita, go ahead, I tell you that all the time.
When somebody says you're easy to work with, that's beautiful.
And when somebody says you're a pleasure to work with,
you gonna always work.

Speaker 16 (14:32):
Yeah, because it's so long, the work is hard, so
talent is evenly distributed, you know in La New York,
but good people to work with, it's not so much.
And then it's already stressful. You got early call times
and all that stuff. If you're also a jerk on
top of that, it's like, bro, I don't even.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Want to do it.

Speaker 15 (14:47):
It's life be lifing, as you know, so it's like
it's hard to get on it and have to like
turn all of that off, you know, in filming. So
when you have somebody that's like keV is really like
my real life brother, you know, I really love him.
I love his wife, like we have dinners. Like it's
so it's just it doesn't it truly doesn't feel like work.
So we just be cutting up. And you know, this
show really allowed me to be funny and like really

(15:08):
tap into cause I feel like I've done so much
formal journalism. This was like a different This was more vulnerable,
and keV is more my coach sometimes where he's like,
just say it, like, you know, cause I'm so trained
that sometimes it's a little bit more stiff. So he's like,
just say it. They ain't gonna care.

Speaker 16 (15:23):
Yeah, and we need to help me too, because I
had never done official TV, never worked off a prompter before.
So the first day I was like, dang man, this
like there's a lot of pressure and you can't really
mess up. It's time for you to do your job right.
And he was like, oh, it's good, there's how you
do it.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Let's run through it once.

Speaker 16 (15:37):
And Nina, man, let me tell you what she big
sis for real, because when I only want to do stuff,
she'd be like, ah, we ain't doing that, y'all.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
We are doing this.

Speaker 16 (15:45):
Like you can tell she's been in the game for
a long time, never rude or anything like that, but
she she knows how to assert herself and people respect
her for that.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
And I'm more of like, I never done this, so
whatever y'all say is cool.

Speaker 15 (15:57):
But also when you've done it a long time, you
know when people are padding time like you like, we
don't need we got this. We can just roll through this,
like y'all ain't got a babys Like we're gonna come in,
were gonna knock this out and we're gonna go home.
Everybody gonna get home on time. Y'all got pill over time.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
And hard for you, keV being on a production that
you don't control, no low key. Actually it's free because
you like to do.

Speaker 16 (16:18):
Oh my god, there's a certain amount of stress when
you control it, Like the talent is just one aspect.
Then you gotta worry about the budget and the controlling,
the editing, the delivery. Friday night vibes, brother. When it's
over all right, y'all, and it's it is, it is
a welcome reprieve from having a duel. I don't want
to have to worry about post edit deliveries, time code,

(16:38):
you know, s and p leave it at the door coffee.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yes, what time is lunch? Okay?

Speaker 16 (16:44):
Perfect, see you all tomorrow. I just come on time
do my job. Chopping up with Mena.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I knew we was cool. You need to let me
she was getting braided down, y'all real.

Speaker 15 (16:53):
Friends, man, you let me see the bread.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
The breakdown is into Yeah.

Speaker 16 (17:04):
No, That's why I think that camaraderie and chemistry from
the audition through the show, it just carries on throughout.
And then that's why the show feels so natural. Our
guests come on, they feel really natural with us, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 15 (17:14):
So, and it doubled the ratings. So we did the
first season, we only had like twelve episodes, so it
was just the first Friday of every month, which right now,
you know, TV is very difficult. They actually doubled our
episode order because they were saying that our interviews with
each other and with our guests were spiking over the movies. Yeah,
so I mean listen to get a double order. During
this time, we feel very blessed.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
We're still kicking it with Nina Parker and keV on
stage the new show Friday Night Vibes is on TBS.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Was it toxic working there?

Speaker 14 (17:44):
ANGI what I mean?

Speaker 15 (17:46):
Listen, this is I've heard. It's not like that anymore.
I don't know, And this is this is one of
the reasons you and I haven't talked because I checked
out of all things TMZ, I never watched the show again.
When I stopped like, I didn't, I stopped community. I didn't,
so I'm not communicre with people I knew, but anything
like I just kind of shut that part of my
brain off because I had a lot of PTSD and

(18:07):
it was you have to think about it. This was
like the birth of New age media. There were no rules,
so we would work like fourteen hours a day. You
would get in trouble for taking a lunch. You couldn't
leave like your desk. You had to answer your phone
if four in the morning. It was You would work
weekends and you couldn't say no. We would rock. People

(18:27):
would walk around with their laptop. We would go to
a concert. You have to have your laptop in your
back because if you got a call it for you
didn't answer, you would get fired.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
It was over for you.

Speaker 15 (18:36):
So and I made the decision to participate in that
because I didn't have anybody, I didn't have anything else,
I didn't have a team. We were kind of deterred
from getting a team, like you know. So the things
I know now this is this is there was no
hr R.

Speaker 12 (18:55):
Was very new, and there was the union. Things that
come in when you have in your protection. They got
ridden that didn't exist back then.

Speaker 15 (19:01):
Like they had Telepictures that was the parent company that
technically you could go, but you didn't know anybody there
because they weren't. You only knew who was in the building.
So it was it was really the wild West. And
I probably I mean when Michael Jackson died, I didn't
leave the office for three days, like we slept there.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
And that was your salary of fifty thousand dollars or
less whatever.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
I mean.

Speaker 15 (19:21):
I think I was still making like the PA salary then,
which was I think I had got boosted to like
six fifty a week.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Crazy thing is when Lauren started working here. You ever
see that dog that they and I'm not comparing you
to a dog, but that dog that when you get
out the shelter right and.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
You put your hand up to pettit and skin.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
That's how Lauren was. Lauren was like, wait a minute,
you guys just said good job like it was. I'm
like what I thought she was joking? Then I realized no,
she was traumatized.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
How long were you there?

Speaker 4 (19:50):
How was that TMC?

Speaker 14 (19:51):
For eight years?

Speaker 12 (19:53):
And when you come in you hear woll from the
black people there. You hear so much about you. Van
was always really big about, you know, talking to me
about you. He was there when I was. When I
was there, so was Raquel. And then they left, and
when they left it was me and I was like, what.

Speaker 15 (20:06):
At least you had the camaraderie.

Speaker 12 (20:08):
But then they left right and then George Floyd and
I'm odd aurey happened and it was like, oh.

Speaker 15 (20:12):
And you're fighting by yourself because there's a lot of microaggressions.
There's macro too. And one of the things that was
hard for me was like, at the time, and this
was before Van even got there, I was the only
black person on camera. And so you are soul.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yes, yes, the stories you tell me yourself.

Speaker 15 (20:29):
And you feel an obligation, but sometimes you're tired, right
and half the time, but the thing is with black talent, especially,
you don't have the luxury of being silent when it's
a black issue, because they're gonna look at you in
this room full of white people and wonder why you
just say anything they're not gonna think about. Like I've
been doing this every single day. I got a migraine.
I'm tired, Like I'm tired of arguing. I know, their

(20:51):
race baiting me. There, they bait you on purpose. But
at the same time, I'm like, I got to think
about the people who are watching that look like me,
that are like, you know, why didn't you speak up?
But you know, you know, as you age, fighting every
day gets exhausting. And also when you're getting baited because
it's like I don't mind having a healthy discussion, but
you're purposely trying to bait me to have this conversation
so you can have content, and I'm not really with that.

(21:12):
And so you get tired of being used. You get
tired of like women being talked about. You know, you
feel like I'm in this space. When I was there,
it was very toxic, like we would get they had
a relationship with Vivid because you know, Kim Kardashians sex
tape and they vivid would send like sex tapes in
and sometimes people would just watch them in the office,
you know, and it was like you were like what

(21:33):
am I What's going on? But then also you're like, well,
what are my other options? And that's when you start
to build these relationships, and you're like, I got to
make an exit plan.

Speaker 12 (21:40):
I had a I just want to say this real quick.
Then we can move away from TMZ because you have
moved away.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yes, but I met Trenches said nothing about this.

Speaker 12 (21:50):
I met you a long time ago in LA and
our interaction you weren't rude, but it just wasn't the best.
And one I was about to leave, Ban was like,
you should call Meena, and I was like, I don't
think she cares for me that much, and he was
and I was like, well, and I told him, but
now here in your I don't know if you even
knew who I was, But if so, I'm thinking, like
maybe that I had nothing to do with that. But
I never thought about this, because when you're in that environment,

(22:13):
you think it's regular, you think it's okay. I never
thought about like what your post life felt like mentally
having to go through and deal with all of that.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I think that so I got to do you telling
the world that Nina no I said, why would you do?

Speaker 12 (22:29):
The reason why I want to say that is because
now I'm sitting here and I felt your emotion just
now when you were talking about your experience, and I
identify with it so much, and it made me think
about if I were to run into someone right in
that same predicament unknowingly, I might not like, you know,
do you know what I'm trying to.

Speaker 15 (22:45):
When you're reacting to the place, not the person, yes,
And so you you know, it's like if someone brings
up a relationship that hurts you, you're kind of like,
especially if you're not in a space to like say,
you're not thinking about it, and it jars you for
a second where you're just like And also, I'm very
media trained, right, so sometimes I don't want to speak

(23:05):
bad on a place, and I don't know if my
experience will be your experience. So there's a lot I
can't say to you without saying it right where I can.
It's like, how do I tell this person there in
the trenches and like get out quickly, yes, because that
may not be your journey. So how do I say
that to you, because it's so nuanced. So it's just
such a layered thing. So sometimes if like people come

(23:27):
up to me like I'm at TMZ, I'm kind of
like and I'm like, yeah, I don't know what to
tell you, because this is it's only something you understand
if you've been there. It's like being in a sorority.
But at the same time, and I think I've just
healed from being there probably within the last like four years,
four or five years. You I have this thing now
where I'm my friends say I'm the fastest responder because

(23:48):
you had to be this thing, right. I always even
now I'm not really in news anymore, like I'm a
host for shows, and even now, I feel like I
got to look at these headlines. I'm like, what am
I doing? I am posting about no news.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I'm the first supposed to tweet about it. So you
have these things.

Speaker 15 (24:03):
So I don't remember the the interaction, but I'll say
that it was so traumatizing that sometimes it was hard
to react positively about it. And also, you know, as
you grow, you learn how to temper that a little
bit better.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Friday Night Vibes on TV, Yeah, we appreciate you guys
coming up and don't be strange.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
You could come on more. Ke I feel like me
a girl. I was watching too. I was like, oh
my god, this is really happening. They gonna put this on.

Speaker 17 (24:39):
Watch it.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Please come if you are in town, please come on away.
Seven years to get keVs.

Speaker 15 (24:46):
Well, y'all just had him.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
So this was fine. I was fullying. I was in
the coverage, tweeting, I was in.

Speaker 17 (24:52):
The common.

Speaker 15 (24:54):
Yes, yes, I have a I have a clothing line
for plus women sizes twelve to thirty is. Yes, it's
in stores that it's doing very well, and so this
is one of the designs. So yeah, it's still you know,
the multiple streams. It's always needed the little.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
To keep a check.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
It was Nina Parker Kep on stage Friday Night Vibes
on TBS.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Good morning, Good morning everybody. It's DJ and the just
Hilarry and Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club
now if you're just joining us, phone lines wide open,
eight hundred and five eighty five, one oh five to one.
This morning, they had been calling me flex Washington, Flexington, Yes,
and a host of others And why is this just.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
Because you made a video the other day that hit
the shave room that made it seem like you was
trying to go save your dogs from the rain.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
I don't know who the hell think dogs got to
be saved from the rain.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
But you had the video a selfie style right to
show the big castle that you living in the back
instead of showing the dogs. The objective was to show
you rescuing the dogs from the rain. I always finally
got them from their one bedroom apartment in your backyard.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
You want to training the dog.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
You wanted us to even see how big the cage is.
But he stood in the cage.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
And if dav is not not sure, I put that
cage together. I got it from track to supply.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Think about that you were standing in the cave.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
And how much is I put them together myself from
track to supply. And I was showing the process. I've
talked about these two puppies that my kids and family wanted.
We got these dogs, and now nobody helps me with
these dogs. I have to do it every day and
train these dogs.

Speaker 14 (26:20):
Those are some big puppies.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Imagine they were born on March.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Now, imagine a plane flying over that house and seeing
you in that cage and thinking to themselves, oh.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
My god, they got dominicans in cages in New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
It was big. Did you see the cage?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
It were crazy cages. I didn't I didn't hit the cage.
I saw him running in the backyard door man.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
But it was It's what I did to, you know,
to show people that when when your kids say they
want dogs, just know that it's all on you get
on another level.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
You could have came in here and got it off
your chest about that. You did not have to make
a selfie style video to show your house in the
back never dropped the phone?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Was that it was?

Speaker 5 (26:56):
It was from my TikTok.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
If you follow me on TikTok, I explained some of
the things that I do just show fun, just being funny,
doing certain things that.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Your phone is proof.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
What's the craziest phone waterproof?

Speaker 5 (27:05):
Is my phone water proof?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Is your phone waterproof? I don't know, but I'm asking
you you it was you was pouring down raining.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Yes it works in water.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
What's the craziest way y'all ever flexed?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Craziest thing about I don't do that?

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Jax were talking talking about you. She she never say
her house, my state.

Speaker 18 (27:25):
This is not.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I'm not in the penthouse in Jersey City.

Speaker 12 (27:31):
And then what look she was She was talking about
her daughter's first birthday and it was very casual.

Speaker 14 (27:35):
She was like, okay, this is my house.

Speaker 12 (27:36):
That gonna put this here to say I'm like, it's
an aerial shot of a huge plot of land. I
was like, okay, Joss, I'm not going to fake save
no dogs to show that I'm.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
About don't you're here?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
He damn it, man, Lawrence Laurence. Ain't nothing flexed about
Lauren stiff stiff you hear me.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
About Lauren cheat?

Speaker 14 (28:11):
This is virgie, this is don't play with me. Okay,
install is installing.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Hello, good morning.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Who's this?

Speaker 16 (28:20):
Yea yo?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
What's up?

Speaker 10 (28:21):
This is James Jada cable guy.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Good morning, Jkble.

Speaker 10 (28:24):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Not much? What's the craziest thing you did to flex?

Speaker 12 (28:27):
So check this out?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Right?

Speaker 18 (28:28):
This is back back in my hey day. I say
about two thousand. I was really jocking this girl, trying
to get it to go out. She finally accepted it,
went on a date, right, So I'm really trying to flex.
I checked my bank account on speaker phone in front
of her just to watch your reaction. And I think
I said around that time it was about you know,
one hundred and four, one hundred and four thousand.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Two thousand. Okay, Nick, you want to hear that.

Speaker 10 (28:55):
This is my contracting days.

Speaker 18 (28:56):
You know with ninety nine you was running of all that.

Speaker 10 (29:00):
It's all legit now. But uh, that was the craziest
thing I.

Speaker 18 (29:04):
Did to flex.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
What did she say when you did that?

Speaker 4 (29:07):
What was that reaction?

Speaker 18 (29:08):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (29:08):
Oh, the attitude changed. The attitude went straight from uh,
you know wallysip Diddy to is this something serious with us?
Do you see yourself going forward with this?

Speaker 18 (29:22):
And it was like, yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 10 (29:23):
Sure sure did you hit la B?

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Did you hit?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Did you hit?

Speaker 10 (29:28):
Look, I'm not gonna kitch and tell.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Work out?

Speaker 10 (29:35):
It didn't work out?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Okay, right?

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Marriedright, married to it to this day. That's why.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Hell come on, and who's this yo?

Speaker 9 (29:45):
You know the vibes and mellow?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
How you doing? Mellow? What's up?

Speaker 4 (29:48):
What's the craziest thing you ever did? The flex?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Like your boy Envy?

Speaker 9 (29:52):
Oh I'm not even the first off? Can we drop
on the cool box for Envy?

Speaker 8 (29:56):
Perflexing so hard?

Speaker 10 (29:57):
That was big fire.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Sign.

Speaker 16 (30:00):
The video.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Fire wasn't bake fire.

Speaker 9 (30:07):
It's alright, little tickets. But I'm not gonna hold me
back in the days. In my younger days, I was
on some Drakes also some Drake Thomas, you know, no kid.
I was like, yo, you want shock for the girls
and all the song and you know what I mean.
I shouldn't have did that, and I had to pretty
much keep ordering shocks until I direct deposit here, you.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (30:27):
And I feel like that's the wildest thing I've ever done,
because I was sitting there for additional hour and a half.

Speaker 12 (30:31):
Bro, what you would have did it that deposit was
like later like your bank, you know what I mean.
Sometimes to be off like what you would.

Speaker 9 (30:38):
Have done might even go hold you. We was in
a karaoke bar and I can sing. I would have
distracted them word I would have you know what I mean?
They called me Trey Rooms in the hood. I'm not
even gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
I don't like listen.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I want to tell everybody to I only remind people
in Charlton, South Carolina, that today at noon, the International
African American Museum is going to be absolutely free okay,
myself and the Black Effect Podcast Network sponsored a free
day at the International African American Museum in Charleston starting
at noon today. So if you off the Labor Day,
gather the kids, and you know, go to the International

(31:17):
African American Museum starting today at noon.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
It is completely free. Admission is free. The Breakfast Club,
Good morning, The Breakfast Club, Good morning everybody, cej n V,
Jesse hilarious, Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
La La Rosa is here as well. We got a
special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, she's the only
other person from Delaware that I know. You know, you
know Joe Biden, President Body, Joe Body, Yes, yes, I
know him as well. And you know, as Patience, what the.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Patience ladies talking about, I'm about it.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Too, you know, all imaginary players, she says, and Patience,
what the When she's about to, I guess do something
she's not supposed to with patience.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
So she said, Patience be liked as I.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Said, Yeah, when Cardi's about to do something she's not
supposed to be, I guess you pop up in of
mind like Cardi, the founder and CEO of Cream Labs,
but you know she's behind You know some of the
biggest artists rollouts.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
In hip hop. Correct, right, and you've been with Cardis
since day one?

Speaker 8 (32:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (32:16):
Years?

Speaker 17 (32:17):
Wow?

Speaker 12 (32:18):
Yes, ten years as of September of this year.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
But let's start there. How did you meet Cardy and
how did you get on part of her team?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (32:25):
I love this story.

Speaker 12 (32:27):
So when I had my son, I decided not to
go back and work for Hurts.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
I was running cars Hurts.

Speaker 12 (32:34):
Okay, after I graduated college, I ended up having to
rint cars. There were no jobs, so I decided to
open up a salon in Wilmington called Victated the Salon
with my tax refund money.

Speaker 17 (32:45):
La.

Speaker 14 (32:48):
I've been so for since day one.

Speaker 12 (32:49):
We were in there doing aller for I was in
the photo shocause.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I continue on, you know what.

Speaker 12 (32:56):
So basically I was, you know, just operating in the salon.
But I opened the salon because I always wanted to
be a publicist. So I'm like, I'm gonna use my
stylist as like my case studies my clients while I
self teach myself, right, So I would look for opportunities
for them outside of the booth. Was like my selling point.
So fast forward maybe four years. My partner actually who's here.

(33:19):
He was bringing a lot of talent and celebrities to Wilmington,
and we're a very, very small market, so there's not
a ton of talent that comes in and out of Wilmington,
especially because we're so close to Philly. So he would
throw live events. There were a ton of different events
and talent and celebrities that you know, he would bring out.
So my stylists were telling me, Hey, this girl named

(33:40):
Carti is coming to Delaware, she's coming to dance. We
want to do her hair and makeup. I didn't follow
her at the time, but I, you know, I followed
their lead, and I reached out to Bunn and asked him,
you know, would you mind putting in a word with
Cardi and her management. You know, we'll do her hair
and her makeup at no costs. So he followed through
and he made the connection, the very first connection between

(34:03):
myself and Cardi. And she pulled up with her manager
at the time and a pt cruiser. She had this
orange wig on, Yes, pa cruiser. This was so early on.
This was like literally like before love and hip hop ear.

(34:25):
So yeah, she pulled up, she got her hair and
makeup done, and she was just like, you want to
come to the club with me? And I'm like, oh,
you know, I gotta sit her.

Speaker 15 (34:33):
Why not?

Speaker 12 (34:33):
So we go to the club and she gets dressed.
She asked me to help me pick her money up
while she's dancing. We order some wings, We go our
separate ways at the end of the night. And about
maybe a month or two later, I had started filling
out internship applications because I was just like, I'm twenty six.
I think I was how old. I was like, oh
my gosh, I was twenty six, and I'm like, you know,

(34:54):
my son is two three. At the time, I really
still want to be a publicist. I need to make
a move. So I just started filling out all of
these internship applications for fashion week, which is kind of
what segued us into that space, and I took an internship.
I slept on my friend's couch in Newark, New Jersey,
and maybe my third day on the job, I ran

(35:15):
into Cardi backstage. She was walking in the Gypsy Sports
show because they wanted all like internet or you know,
social media personalities, and she was like, oh, like, what
are you doing here? Are you doing hair and I
was like, no, I'm a publicist. She was like, oh,
I need one of those. And I was like okay,
And her and chef invited me to dinner that night
and I walked in and they introduced me as her

(35:37):
new publicist. And that's how.

Speaker 18 (35:40):
This was.

Speaker 12 (35:40):
Before we were selling makeup, watch, popping cosmetics, everything the cosmetics.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
I'm sorry, your hair salon.

Speaker 18 (35:52):
No.

Speaker 12 (35:53):
So as we continued to like grow and the business grew,
I you know, leveraged my what I was building with
her into an agency, which is how cream Labs came about.
And you know, I decided that, you know, maybe like
six years after having the salon open, I just didn't
have the capacity, where the bandwidth to do it. And
the industry and the salon, like the salon industry has

(36:14):
shifted so much. People wanted their own suites, their own brands.
So I just focused on building out and expanding the agency.
But that's what you know, all of it led up
into building with party story.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Did you do her half for her recent court case?

Speaker 12 (36:33):
I was here for the Whigs, like definitely, But talk
about that, I mean, Charlatne mentioned that it's funny, but
I think even when we saw her switching wigs recently,
people instantly started remembering the first time we saw her
in court and everything was a moment when she was
showing up the court, right, And you guys have been
really good about making moments from the beginning.

Speaker 14 (36:52):
Was Cardi always the artist that wanted to do that?
Did you have to talk her into it?

Speaker 12 (36:55):
How to What was her first moment where she's like,
I needed this, how I need to live the rest
of my Oh, her first moment, I would say it
was the week that we met. Is the week that
we decided to work with each other, which was fashion week.
And I say that because the way that she showed
up so once we decided, like, all right, we're gonna

(37:15):
work together, there was a few shows left and the
last show that normally happens during fashion week was The Blonde.
So you know, as an intern, my job was to
get people from their black trucks to the front, you know,
to their front row seat. So I'm like, you know,
nobody really knows you outside of the personality that you
built on social media. Let's just start increasing your visibility

(37:37):
right away. And again I'm like self teaching myself at
this point, I'm just doing what feels right. So I
told her to come to the show, and I was
just gonna seat her, and I'm like, just come and
just look like you belong. Like she shows up in
a turban, these like wooden nipple pasties and like a
flared bell bottom pant, and everybody was just like if

(37:58):
they didn't know who she was, they wanted to know
who she was. And I just set her. I just
found a spot on the front row and just set her.
And that told me that she was number one. She
was willing to be collaborative and trusting. It wasn't like
why I gotta do this, or I'm not really invited.
I don't want to show up. I'm not gonna always
get an invite in the very beginning. Sometimes you got
to show people why you should be invited, right, and

(38:19):
that does come with a risk, obviously, but she was
willing to. Like Dugget, She's like, Okay, where I gotta be,
I'm gonna show up, what I gotta wear, Okay, I'm there,
and she just went with it. So at that moment,
I knew like she loved and wanted to leave an
impression wherever she went and really make a moment, and
I think we just always carried that same energy throughout

(38:39):
everything we did.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
I love that because that really defines car to B
as a person. A lot of times people don't hear
that side of it. Charlamage and myself, we've seen her
early on, so we've seen the grind. We've seen her
eating the McDonald's in the morning. You've seen her going
to the teen parties, and we've seen that grind and
the clubs and the strip clubs and the regular clubs
and this. So I love that story because it shows that,
you know, sometimes people like, oh, no, she's that No,

(39:02):
she deserves to be here. She worked absolutely.

Speaker 12 (39:05):
Against all odds, and it's great that I was so
fortunate to number one be you know, just given the
space to like, we're gonna figure this out together. You've
never been necessarily a publicist of X amount of years,
I've never been a superstar, like you're just gonna figure
this out and trusting one another's intuition, in one another's vision.

(39:26):
And she literally like being there to see all the nose.
I love that I'm still in a seat to be
able to see all of those people just eat their
words like so many people were just like, it'll never
happen for her.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
We're still kicking it with patients.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Foster.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
Yes, I love more, particularly about your story, how you
went through, how you use the hair industry to step into.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
PR. Yeah, that is so dope. Yeah it was.

Speaker 12 (39:53):
I mean living in a place like Wilmington and Lauren
knows like we're Delaware. Down wherever we got it's like, yes,
we're from Delaware, but the community and the network is
so small. It's so limited, and to be in a
space like public relations, you have to put yourself in
spaces where you can rub elbows and kiss babies and
build a network. So I still felt like before I

(40:16):
put myself out there, I wanted to have enough confidence
and experience just from an entry level point of view.
So looking at my stylists more like clients was really
what helped me to feel like, Okay, I got enough
confidence to walk into a space and feel like I
know how to represent people, even if it's on a
small level. I feel like I had the fundamentals to

(40:40):
represent someone and help leverage whatever talent they have into
a brand. I didn't know that that's what I was
doing so early on, but now that I'm much more
aware of my capabilities and what I'm able to do.
I know that I'm able to take talent and leverage
that into a brand, a brand that is sustainable outside
of just one category.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Imagine question there's between managing talent and managing the perception.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Of the talent.

Speaker 12 (41:02):
I mean, I think that that's a piece of it.
Managing the perception of the talent, because the perception is
essential to the value of the brand at the end
of the day. But managing the talent, I mean, I
think there's a lot of different aspects of managing the talent.
You have day to day, you need someone who's consistently
paying attention to the logistics, yeah, the tallendar, all of

(41:24):
the things that keep everything moving. And then you have
people that have their expertise. You have your music managers,
you have your brand managers, and I think managing the
talent overall is just making sure that there's consistently a strategy.
There's consistently a plan, Like I don't know if people
think that it's just we're just winging it, Like there's
always a plan and there's always a goal. There's always

(41:45):
like we know exactly what it is that we want
to do and what we want to accomplish. But I
think really managing the talent is understanding the product itself,
which is what the talent is, whether it's music, whether
it's making clothes, whatever it is, and then understanding how
you create a relationship that's engaging with that audience in

(42:06):
a way that grows the brand, that builds value in
the brand, because at the end of the day, you
want to be able to leverage that brand into something
that is legacy for you.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
How do you decide when somebody's a front or when
somebody is a client? Right, because you're going to have
clients to pay you for certain things. But I'm assuming
Carudi B Is not just a client. She's your friend,
meaning you can see that.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah, But like so, if you're working.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
With somebody and now Cardi B Is beefing with that person,
you can't work with that person anymore.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
But with a client is just like it's just a check.
So how do you decide that?

Speaker 3 (42:35):
And if Cardi's like, you know, let's say it's not
rocking with somebody, you say, all, well, I can't work
with that person anymore. How does that work?

Speaker 12 (42:41):
I mean that's a very real thing. Like and I
think also it's just what is your philosophy as what
is your philosophy as an entrepreneur or a boss or
whatever it is that you do right. And I feel
like whatever your philosophy is and your principles are is
how you show up when it comes to making those
type of decisions. And my philosophy is a lot different
for other people, Like there is no real defining line

(43:03):
between personal and business, Like my business is very personal,
Like my business feeds my kid, My business builds my
livelihood and keeps my livelihood and maintains a lifestyle that
I like to live. Like, so my business is very
personal because you know, you compromise my business. Now you're
compromising the way I eat. So when it comes to

(43:24):
cardying any other client, and anyone can tell you, like
wherever there are boundaries or there's an opposition, or someone
that you know has done something in a way that
not only makes them feel away, but has messed with
their business and their livelihood, I could never do business
with you. Yeah, And that's just what it is. Like,
I think some people try to convince themselves that it's

(43:46):
okay because it's just business. But there is no way
that you don't have any emotional attachment or personal relationship
with somebody that you go into a conference room or
on a conference call every day and fight for them
to eat. We got to have a personal relationship that
doesn't turn off when I decide I want to take
another check from somebody that doesn't align with you. We
got to be on the same side for this to work.

Speaker 6 (44:08):
Yeah, do you guys generally only manage artists or is
it actresses?

Speaker 4 (44:14):
It's actresses.

Speaker 12 (44:16):
We're not specific to artists or the company that we've
recently announced and built Fifth and Freedom. It's not just
specific to artists. It's just specific to talent, but talent
that is talent that I can see true value in.
Because one of the main things about Fifth and Freedom
is that it's a new way of management and it's

(44:37):
a new way of looking at talent where some people
are just more reactive. They're waiting on an email, they're
waiting for a deal, they're waiting to respond like. It's
about being proactive, but also making sure that we're not
limiting the talent to this one category that we're building
a brand that can sustain over years without necessarily having
to be active in one category. So it's about like

(44:57):
building legacy, equitable opportunity, like joint ventures, things that you know,
at the end of the day they'll have something to
pass down or they'll have something to fall back on,
because everybody doesn't whether you're an artist, whether you're an influencer.
You may not want to make content every single day.
Once you reach a certain point, it gets tiring. You
may not be inspired, you may not be ready to

(45:19):
drop a project every other month to meet a certain
goal or drop a single right, but how are you
sustaining in between time? I think that comes from like
building real brand value, so that way you can, you know,
build a true legacy.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
How do you deal with somebody like Lauren? First of all,
I'm no serious, right, because you know Lauren from Delaware,
but she thinks.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
To ask the question from Delaware? No, I want to
know how do you deal with her?

Speaker 3 (45:44):
So, meaning you know she's a she's gonna poke the bell,
she's gonna find out the story.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
But that's your client, right and she don't.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Call you and say I just heard this, but you
don't want the story out or maybe the story is wrong.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
In most cases, you can just say in the middle
Finger the movie.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
But now and I've heard her call you mad times time.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
So how do you deal with somebody that's a friend
but you have a client and then he can't hold
water for.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Nothing right, you.

Speaker 14 (46:17):
Know, ask anything that's wrong?

Speaker 3 (46:19):
But like I said, so, how do you deal with like,
you know, because you have relationships with TMC, you have
relationships with these blocks, how do you deal with that?

Speaker 12 (46:27):
I mean, I think like I'm just real big on
like whoever I'm dealing with on a level like that,
you're calling me directly and we're having conversations about things
that are pertaining to clients. Like we already have a
level of trust there and a level of respect because
most people will send out And I was a publicist
years ago. I am no longer the publicist for everyone

(46:48):
that is still mentioningreem Labs.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
What's your title?

Speaker 12 (46:54):
I'm also the co founder in Fifth and Freedom with
my partner Button, But I'm also I'm the Brent for Carti.
I'm her brand manager and her creative director. Yes, so
at the end of the day, I work across her
entire business. At the end of the day because again,
like the longest standing member of her, you know, of

(47:14):
her group, of her, of her team. So I'm involved
in every single conversation at the end of the day
because we built that currency of trust there. But no,
I was a publicist and that was, you know, what
got me into the spaces that I needed to be in.
But as I understood what I'm truly capable of, just

(47:35):
outside of helping to control narratives and stories.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
So you've got old pictures of Lauren to make sure
she'sn'm putting that now.

Speaker 18 (47:40):
And you.

Speaker 12 (47:42):
Used to share in l A and go out to
like the awards.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
We weren't.

Speaker 12 (47:48):
We didn't have a name at the time, so we
weren't on the list. So we were just finessing. We've
been We've been for well over well over game. We
grew up together. So but how I deal to your
to answer your question, I think it's just already a
level of respect there. So she's not gonna she's gonna

(48:09):
tell me what it is. This is the information I have.
What do you want to do with that information? Right?
And it's two things for me. Are you on the
record or are.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
We off the record? Number one, you always the records.

Speaker 12 (48:26):
Like journalists guys do. A lot of times when I
call her too and be like completely before she even
starts completely.

Speaker 11 (48:34):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 12 (48:35):
Yeah, So it's like I'm going to approach I don't.
I think I do a very good job, Like I
don't blur the lines between what I do as a
professional and who I am as a person, because they're
pretty much aligned. Like who I am as a professional
is how I show up as a person. So how
I deal with her is just in any friendship. Let's
be transparent, Let's be honest with each other. This is

(48:57):
what I have to say. This is what I'm not
gonna say hypothetic. I'm going to say this, and you know,
we just worked through it together. And I don't ever
think for a moment I'm never going to have a
conversation with somebody that got a second guess, is this information?
You want to leave this phone call? So it's like,
I think, because of our friendship and the trust and
the history that we have there, we can do good business.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
It's still kicking it with patients.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Foster Charlemagne, how do you decide what's best for your client,
what's best for your girl? And what I mean by
that is like, you know, you see, like somebody like
Lauren in the position she's in, she's growing, like you know,
she's building her name. You might have some information that
you could be I could get the People magazine, but
if I give it to them law and it's really
going to help Brown girl grinding?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
So what are you doing those situations?

Speaker 12 (49:38):
I think it depends on a situation. For wherever there's controversy, drama,
no punt intended, right, that's not ever, That's never been
a part of my process or my systems, Like I'm
never feeding. I know there's people that think like, oh,
this is a pr stunt, like never feeding or setting
up a stunt, right, But in terms of like exclusives,

(49:58):
like oh we have this like great information or something
we want to share about the album, Like of course,
like I will want, you know, my friend to have
the exclusive, But when it comes to the client, it's
just like you if you love me and you say
you're my friend, then you respect the fact that I
have to do what's best for my client, and that's
just you know, And if that level of understanding is

(50:20):
just not there, then we're truly we're not friends and
we can't have business.

Speaker 14 (50:23):
And I will say, there's been plenty of time.

Speaker 12 (50:25):
And also too, I think it's like a trade thing
because like for me, it's like, okay, maybe if I
know this or you've just given me this, but then
your client whoever's like, we want to go another place
with it.

Speaker 14 (50:33):
I'm like, I talk to her all the time. She'll
call me about something else.

Speaker 12 (50:36):
There's been many times where I couldn't do something, but
on the back end it's like, ooh, I might get
another story that's bigger, or you might come to me
and say, hey, this is announcing. Like so it's a
transactional thing as well for me, But I want to
talk about when, like so Carti says, patients be like,
what the There's a lot of moments because y'all don't
stage these things, but people always think things are stage

(50:57):
uh huh. So like the Harper's Bizarre Party, the Nicki
Minaj Cardi b the fight at the Prists party.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
First, well, she didn't even hear the uh she wasn't
there when when Cardi made the record, because you heard
it when when.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Cardivated for you, you were surprised when she when she
said to yeah.

Speaker 12 (51:12):
I was I wasn't there for when she when she
recorded the record in real life, I was just like
taken back because why do it have to be mean?
But I mean, I guess it only makes sense because
a lot of people probably think that there's this this
yes man complex and our relationship, and it's the complete opposite,

(51:34):
like I'm gonna always have her back right, wrong, oring different,
Like there's never gonna be a time that I was
standing down from that. But at the same time, where
we don't agree, we don't agree respectfully right, and we
handled that like adults, and I think we do a
really good job of like we know that our loyalty
is like friends and basically sisters, is you know, the

(51:54):
core of our relationship. But it really doesn't blur the
lines when it comes to like being direct about out
you know, business decisions or just you know, life decisions.
We don't always see out of eye. So there are
plenty of times that she does. And I don't know
why the Internet thinks that I like have these strings
and control what she says or what she can do.

(52:15):
Like I think her fans kind of have this idea
like take her phone, make her get off the internet,
like it's a grown ass woman, Like she's the one
do and say as she pleases, and yes, from time
to time she asks for suggestions or advisement, but there
are some times where she jumps out the window and
she do and say whatever she want to do, and
now yam looking like what the fuck? Like so like

(52:35):
the talent that's coming into fitting freedom. I think what
I was going to ask was, there's a lot of
those moments in there big because of who she is
and become of her personality. How do you in real
time strategize and figure it out where it doesn't hit
her brand or her business too hard and it works
out in your in her favor or at least her
narrative is in her fault. I will almost say it's

(52:56):
in the re It's kind of like in the reverse,
like I'm not thinking with something happens like damage control,
which oh my god, like the Association of Publicists, please
don't kill me. I'm not thinking like, oh my god,
I need to get in crisis control because I think
what you build from the beginning, in the tone you
set with your client in terms of authenticity, is what

(53:17):
carries you through those moments. Because when those moments happen,
I don't have to jump into damage control mode because
we've been who we are from the beginning. She's been
authentic in who she is from the beginning. She's been
unapologetic and unfiltered from the beginning. So it really sometimes
in a lot of these moments just doubles down on

(53:37):
who she's always shown up as. So I think it's
really in the opposite for me, Like, I'm not in
that moment. Of course, if it's absolutely crazy, let's talk
through it, let's figure it out. But it's not a
lot of like spinning of the narrative and coming up
with things that may not necessarily be true to help
stay faced. Like and I love that she's just a
woman that she just stands on her Like damn, I

(54:00):
did say that.

Speaker 6 (54:01):
But you know, so do you feel with your pr background, right,
do you feel that all publicity is good publicity?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (54:09):
I understand it, I understand what it means, but I
do still feel like things can be harmful, Like unless
all you care about is the attention, that's the advantage
of you know, everything is publicity, But if you truly
care about a brand that's going to build value and
be valuable X amount of years from now, then you

(54:32):
should care about you do have to care about what
could possibly be harmful. And I think a lot of
times for her, she gets this backlash of you don't
have to explain everything, you don't need to say everything.
And I think there are some times that I'm kind
of like, I feel like we could have not said something.
But I also feel like I love that she feels

(54:53):
the need to set the record straight. So that way,
when a conversation does come up with a potential brand
partner or you know, a potential partner just in business,
or you know, what have you, it's like, I made
sure to clear my name and set the record straight,
and if what I'm saying is not true, you prove
to me that it's not true. And I feel like
she calls a lot of people's bluff and and she

(55:15):
makes sure to stand on exactly what she thinks and
how she feels, and sometimes that comes out in Instagram
comments or tweets or what have you. But you know,
I don't think that all publicity is good publicity. I
think that all publicity is attention, but all attention is
not good attention.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
So sometimes don't know the difference bad things about you.
It's like, damn, she got mentioned a million times in
out right, but it's.

Speaker 12 (55:41):
Like, what is she getting mentioned for? You know, at
the end of the day, especially if it's something that
defames your character. It's one thing. If it's like if
it's about something frivolous like wardrobe or a rumor like
a surface you know, gossip topic, but something that defames
your character and just your moral compass, like, those still

(56:03):
have real repercussions. A lot of people think that no
one has any sort of principle anymore when it comes
to these businesses. Everybody just wants a name. They just
want a celebrity. You know, they'll pay for no, Like,
there's still moral clauses and contracts. There are still people
that have principles and they want to know how you
show up as a person. So if you are defaming

(56:23):
who I am and my character which could possibly stand
in the way or intervene or interfere with what I'm building,
then I'm set the record.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Strator can like, how do these solations headlines hurt or
help deals with corporate brands?

Speaker 16 (56:38):
I mean.

Speaker 12 (56:41):
They do hurt, right, especially if it's a lot of brands.
The brand partnerships go deeper than just the money, Like
what's the upfront guarantee? Like how are we structuring this partnership,
Like there's still compliance at the end of the day.
They want a lot of brands still want to know
this is a decent person and they show up as

(57:02):
a decent person, and when they go out into the
space or in the marketplace to represent my brand or
my company, they can be trusted, right because they've obviously
spent millions of dollars in resources and manpower to build
whatever it is that they're building, and they don't want
to compromise that. So a salacious headline. If you think
about press, right, there's never a time where a headline
will go up about a particular person or topic and

(57:24):
they don't end that article recount every other thing that
is attached to that person. So and also, right before
this happened, such and such was supposed to sign a
deal or a signing a deal with this company. So
now you're you know, if I'm a publicist for this
brand and I'm getting these Google alerts, this person who
I'm supposed to be doing business with is now showing
up in my alerts in correlation to the name of

(57:46):
my brand. Or my company in a terrible way. So
to your point even earlier, it's all press good press.
That's not good press for them, especially depending on whatever
that brand is built upon. If their geared towards mothers,
or their geared towards a cer type of audience, and
that headline is either prejudiced or hurtful against that audience,

(58:06):
that's not good press. You want to say what I'm saying,
So I mean salacious headlines do you know come with
a certain level of damage when you're building outside of
just your self brand and most talent, if they're smart,
they're building a brand of their own so that they
can collaborate and partner with other companies and other brands.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Man, thank you for coming patients. We ain't gonna never
beat the CARDI B payroll.

Speaker 14 (58:40):
Fifth and Freedom. Those artists are going to be lucky.
Talent gonna be lucky.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
How did they reach out? Do you even want them to?

Speaker 12 (58:49):
Yeah, they can definitely reach us. We have fifth in
Freedom on Instagram. You can reach out. I'm very We're
very active on our Instagram and obviously you know you
can see the services and things that we provide.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Are you looking for something in particular right now, I.

Speaker 12 (59:05):
Don't think we're ever looking for something in particular. It
really is just a field thing. Like we have a really,
really dope emerging artist that's coming out of Delaware, Billy Bird,
who we've been working with for a few years. But
now we're even we're in a better position and have
a lot more there's a lot more opportunity in like
building her out, because breaking artists out of very small

(59:26):
markets is very difficult. But she's so talented, she's so
We're all like, so I don't think we're really looking
for anything, but we're also not looking so not not
do with that information, which you will, thank you so much.

Speaker 17 (59:43):
Yes, some donkey today's just themselves man, Charlotte Magne, prudy given,
don't get a dud shouldna.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Well, donkey Todave goes the twenty one year old Angel
Gomez Montanez. Now that's a name that alert ice. Now listen,
this man was born in two thousand and four. Okay,
I got a rule. I don't know you people who
were born the same year Kanye West College Dropout was released. Okay,
I'm not going back and forth with anybody who was
born the same year Ti I dropped his third urban legend. Okay,

(01:00:25):
how do I look debating somebody who just entered the
world the year Lula Wayne dropped the car to one?
There is nothing to be gained by that conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
There is also a theory that young inns of that
age don't want to work, Okay, that young ends of
that age have a sense of entitlement, that young inns
that age want things handed to them. Well, Angel didn't
disprove any of that, Okay. In fact, Angel might be
exhibiting on why a lot of that is probably true.
Let's go to ABC thirteen Eye Witness News for the report.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Police breaking overnight.

Speaker 16 (01:00:53):
The man investigators to say murdered his roommate rather than
pay Rent is under arrest.

Speaker 19 (01:00:57):
Harris County Sheriff's Office says that on Hell Gomez Montaignes
was safely taken into Castady.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
No other details published about this.

Speaker 19 (01:01:05):
Montanes is charged with the murder of Christopher Rodriguez. Lara
Laura's mother telling ABC thirteen that Montanees had been living
with the family for free for about three months when
she started to ask him to start contributing. She says
Montanez shot and killed her son Thursday, outside the apartment
on Butte Creek Road in North Harrison County.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Rest in peace to eighteen year old Christoph Valara.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
You did not deserve that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
This young man, Angel Montanez, was offered a place on
the on this apartment's couch for three months.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Three months.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
You didn't have to contribute to no bills, okay, no rent,
no nothing, just free loading your monkey ass off. And
then when you were told this can't be happening, we
have bills depay, you decided to shoot and kill eighteen
year old Christophalara. This is why you have to avoid unhappy, unlucky,
miserable souls.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
This young eighteen year old living his best life okay,
with his family, an angel who has family ties with them,
decided to smoke him for no other reason than his
feelings were hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Okay. He also tried to shoot the victim's brother.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
That's what a nine year old witness reportedly heard the
suspects say, I'm gonna kill all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
If you can come up with a plan to commit
a murder, then you can come up with a plan
to get a job.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Twenty one year old, twenty one years old, living rent
free for three months.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Do you know what kind of blessing that is?

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Everybody out there listening to me right now, just imagine
the kind of cushion you could have for yourself if
you didn't have to pay any bills, not one for
three months.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Let me tell you, free.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Loaders out there, if somebody is blessing you with the
opportunity to not have to pay any bills for any
amount of time, please find a way to make that
person's life easier. Young man, your name is Angel Gomez Montanez.
I know you had to urge to do some law
and work. Okay, it's in you, all right. I know

(01:03:02):
you wanted to cut some grass, trim some hedges, find
a cabinet to fix. Okay, there's gotta be a pipe
clogged up somewhere. There was something you could have been
doing in that apartment to make things easier for the
people you was freeloading off. This is why we can't
get rid of job cart No, no, no, okay, the
screech needed. Young men like this don't have nothing else
to do, can't find a job. Job car would be

(01:03:23):
perfect for him. Let him go to job called learn
the trade, get his GEDA diploma and go out there
and you know, have some money to pay his on bills. Now, look,
kids nowadays don't want to work. Is a broad generalization. Okay,
I don't even believe it. Okay, I know plenty of
young hustling ass kids, but these young kids will kill you.
It's not a generalization. Okay, these young is just crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
I know the prefrontal cor text doesn't fully develop until
the age of twenty five, but my god, all right, Angel,
you would have never survived in those scrubs era. He
would have been in the passenger side of his best
friend's ride letting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Off shots if you calling them bus.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
But guess what, Angel, all that was from you know,
all that all that was was a challenge from your family.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
When somebody says, yo, you need to go get a
job to help pay some bills, that means you need
to get up, get out and get something. Okay, That's
why they was encouraging you to do that. That's all
they wanted. But now you don't have to worry about
room and board anymore because you got a murder charge. Okay,
in Texas, you're going to jail for ninety nine years
of life, and you will have to get a job.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
Young man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Okay, food service, laundry, maintenance, furniture manufacturing. Oh, you're gonna
get a job in prison, and you're gonna give a
job in prison. It's just gonna have a blow in
front of it. Please let rem Ma give Angel Montana
as the biggest he huh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Hee ha heh you stupid? Are you dumb?

Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
And they sound like a fake Mexican. This is Mantana's Angel.
I'm probably pronouncing it wrong because ain't no r in
it spelled m O n t A n e z
mon Z.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Yeah, let me see, let me let me show he's
not like he's an impersonating you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
You can have Mexican.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
First of all, No, let me say.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
That's exactly one, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
Okay, all right, well, thank you for that. Donkey today, sir,
the breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Club one of everybody is DJ mv Ess hilarious charlamage
the guy.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest
in the building.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Longa roast to say as well, we got a special
guest in the buildings. Indeed, training to the NBA players
and the host of other things he has going on,
Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
Chris Brickley, welcome back, man, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
How you feeling. I feel great.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I feel like.

Speaker 11 (01:05:41):
Coming to this show three times it means like you're
doing something right. To me, this is the dopest show,
got the biggest platform where you guys do is amazing.
So to come three times, and so I'm a little tired.
Last night, I won a little drive went to my
old apartments just to like, you know, kind of like
celebrate where I'm at right now. And yeah, I'm mis
thankful in the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
What's important to why'd you decide to do that? Why
you wanted to go back? Most people go forward?

Speaker 11 (01:06:06):
Why do you want to go back and see where
you So you know, going on the breakfast club is
cool for the third time. So I'm like, okay, I'm
literally going to drive to one on sixth and Columbus.
Then I drove to I lived in cliffs Side Park,
and then so I drove to all these just I
do that just sometimes when I feel like I might
be losing motivation, just to get that back. And then

(01:06:27):
also sometimes it's in celebration mode type thing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Yeah, now, for people that don't know who you are.
You're an NBA trainer, play basketball for Louisville. Yeah, and
what got you into training basketball? Why do people feel
like you are the trainer that they should work with
because you work. We've seen you work with people like
of course Mellow, We've seen you work with Lebron, We've
seen you work with Hard and Westbrook, just to name
a few.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
So why are you the person that people say I
got to train with Chris.

Speaker 11 (01:06:51):
Man's That's a great question. I thank God every day.
I think at the end of the day, I'm a
good person. I study my craft and the players know
I care. And also I'd be dumb not to say
luck comes with anything. Anyone really successful, some type of
luck needs to come wrong the way.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
How much of a player development is mental versus physical?

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
That's a great question.

Speaker 11 (01:07:17):
That's so many players that if you watch the workout,
they wouldn't miss a shot, and you bet they should
be in the NBA. They play in Europe because when
the game comes, they just become like a mental midget,
Like they miss a shot then they just pack it in.
So yeah, the mental aspect is huge. So like my
job is a I'm a trainer, teaching players how to play,
but then also teaching players like don't get too down,

(01:07:41):
hold yourself accountable. A lot of mental stuff, yeah, a
part of it, huge, huge.

Speaker 12 (01:07:46):
So aside of mental, what else do you look at
when a player when you're like okay this. Players want
to be a star.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Yeah, So there's two ways that go about it.

Speaker 11 (01:07:52):
So sometimes else I'll work with a player and he's
already all star. So in those aspects, they still want
to get better, but they'll be like studying my game,
try and figure out what I need to get better at.
I'll tell him what I think and then we'll attack it.
Then you have situations like Donovan Mitchell. So I started
working with Donovan Mitchell. He had like seven hundred followers
on Instagram. He was like in eleventh grade. Now he's

(01:08:13):
an NBA superstar. So they're like to do that and
see that it's super dope. I did that with Kayane Anthony,
Cole Anthony, and recently Sierra Future Junior. He's eleven years old.
Russell Wilson hits me up and he's like, yo, I
want you to do what you did Kayenne Cole Donovan
to my son so he's been in the gym.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
But let me ask you, what when you like a
play like Lebron, right, who's probably one of the best
players ever one of Right, what do you train him
to make him better?

Speaker 18 (01:08:44):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
What can make him better?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
When I'm saying, what makes you like he's the goat?

Speaker 11 (01:08:48):
So, yeah, you're right, it's like, so a he can
get better at things, like even great players always have
some flaws in their game. Once we started working, Lebron
was like, all right, I want you to watch film
and I come over to the workout tomorrow and tell
me two things that I need to get better at.
So this is like nerve wracking going on. Lebron he
did it, and so I gave him two things. He

(01:09:09):
liked them, and uh yeah, so that there's always weaknesses.
There's always weaknesses even the greats.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
Now you call Lebron the goat, people will be like,
Lebron's not the goat.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Jordan is the go too. Why do you have Lebron
as your goat?

Speaker 7 (01:09:22):
Man?

Speaker 11 (01:09:24):
He would scored the most points in NBA history. That's
just the fact he holds so many records, I mean,
effect doing in this era with the social media and
all that all the hate, it's just a lot what
he's going through. He's won team championships with three teams.
His his brand is Giant, so this was Jordan's. But
now I'm teaming Lebron all day.

Speaker 14 (01:09:44):
How do you fee when people be coming for Bronni.

Speaker 11 (01:09:46):
It's it's messed up because the end of the day,
he didn't choose to be Lebron's son. Like he he's
a great He's literally like a great kid. And you
could tell, you know, it's like a little it's a
sore spot for the family. I wouldn't want someone messed
with my kid, and none of none of you guys would.
But Brownie is actually really good. I think that. Uh,

(01:10:08):
I think he's just gonna peak, like in a year
or two.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
Do you think he should bring in the league because
that's your training for sure.

Speaker 11 (01:10:16):
For sure, because people don't understand before his freshman year
here that hard stuff, like I think he had the
guest was this seizure or he passed out something the
major couldn't so he could played like half the season.
So yeah, and he's an NBA player.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Yeah, what what made you pivot to being a trainer
right rather than in a career of being a player.

Speaker 11 (01:10:37):
Yeah, so obviously I wanted the d NBA player, but
I wasn't good enough, so I couldn't. I couldn't. Yeah, nah,
so I made the most him. So I grew up
in New Hampshire. You know, I still hold the record
many records there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Played at Louisville.

Speaker 11 (01:10:54):
Had two NBA guys in front of me, and yeah,
I could have gone overseas, but I was like, I
played for Rick Patino and then my two mentors at
Rick Patino and Phil Jackson was actually on the shirt two.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Of the greatest coaches ever do it.

Speaker 11 (01:11:08):
And so I'm like, Okay, if I have the opportunity
to know these guys, let's attack this coaching thing. So
I did the coaching thing, Like now it's not for me.
So then I started training thing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Who was the first player that believed in you as
a trader?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Said, you know, Jarah Smith, that's one of my some
of my close friends.

Speaker 11 (01:11:25):
My first year when I was with the Knicks, I
was making three hundred dollars a week. He let me
stay in his and his couch. So I stayed on
Jr's couch for the whole year. Shout out to Jr.
For that hand to do that. Yeah Jr. Is a
good guy.

Speaker 12 (01:11:38):
Did you see recently Don Sali was talking about she
interviewed to be the coach of the Knicks.

Speaker 11 (01:11:42):
Yeah, what do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
I mean, I think it's fire.

Speaker 12 (01:11:45):
I don't know if I feel like they would have
known how to protect her in the way she might
have needed. They would have came right. Everything I would
have came her way, and I would have hated to
have seen that. But I don't know much about sports.
I just know being a black woman.

Speaker 11 (01:11:58):
Yeah, no, for sure, I wanted to get the job.
I think soon enough there will be a coach in
the NBA. It's a girl coach there, tot girl refs.
It's kind of funny when the players yelling at the
but uh, yeah, no, I think it's coming soon for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
What's the most slept on player in NBA right now?

Speaker 11 (01:12:15):
To slept on right now in the league, So like
there's levels, I guess, but I would say tie Jerome,
Tie Jerome. Yeah, he's like another kid. I guess I'm
being biased. I've worked to them since like eighth grade,
and just to see that, there's no better feeling working
with the kid and watching him like achieve his dreams.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
Have you ever trained somebody that you knew they was
just gonna be trash after you even after that?

Speaker 11 (01:12:40):
Maybe if I do like favorite workouts like but like
for like someone's some celebrity son you know, Clue. Clue
is overly confident. He's like delusionally confident. But so yes,
but to be a good colul that is so funny.
So to be a good shooter, you need to be
delusionally confident. But he's he's just not a great shiitt

(01:13:03):
yet talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
Yeah, who plays basket Cloe takes basketball series?

Speaker 11 (01:13:11):
Do these rapper runs and it will be like Drake
Quavo Bieber and who's there? He's there?

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
Okay, No, No, Clue plays well for real, like he
comes like, yes, I know all the time you think
about the jump hut what he does like from the
side it goes in though, So.

Speaker 11 (01:13:26):
You get that, and he's probably get mad at me
for what I've said me to it. He's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
We're still kicking it with Chris Brickley.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
I want to ask you know, when you train these
players and you look at somebody like Lebron or you
look at somebody like Chris Paul that that are, you know,
forty year old, but they still play good ball. Why
do you think they're able to play so good at
this age where a lot of players at the age
of thirty two got to tap out?

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Is it the training?

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Is it the body in shape or is it your
IQ when it comes to basketball, just the way they
their approach, Like, so Lebron will do it eight am workout.
He shows up at six am every single time. Say
we've worked out twenty times, ten am workout, he shows
up at eight am, like he's just like prepared. And
I think these guys, I think the ones that make
it so to take ten years, super hard to make

(01:14:14):
it past ten years. To do that, you got to
sacrifice sometimes your family time. You got to sacrifice a lot. Yeah,
it's tough.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
You got this new shoe coming out. You ain't coming
here with no sneaking.

Speaker 8 (01:14:26):
Nah.

Speaker 11 (01:14:27):
So you guys, No, you guys got so Ben's also
that's dope.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Yeah, Mercedes, So she you know.

Speaker 11 (01:14:35):
That when I was at FDU, I was the youngest
vision one assistant.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
She was a coach. You know, she coached.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
I met us, she was coaching and she was coaching
against my son, Okay, and that's how we actually met.
And then she started coaching my son. Yeah, and she
coached a bunch of players actually too, made them to
the league.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Yeah. Yeah, sure.

Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
So she gave me all your guys sizes, so you
guys are gonna have next week. So I have your
size yet your size?

Speaker 8 (01:14:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:14:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
The sales are fire.

Speaker 11 (01:15:02):
So I want them to be basketball shoes that you
could wear off the court. And I feel like, you know,
it's it in Yeah, you can wear them?

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
Did you design meself?

Speaker 11 (01:15:09):
Design them everything? So the leather, it's leather and swede,
which is kind of rare for a basketball shoe. Shut
out to Rihanna. She did like a leather and swede
Puma shoe, and I was like, ah, that's dope.

Speaker 8 (01:15:20):
Nice.

Speaker 11 (01:15:21):
You guys know what brown street signs me in New
York City? No, so you know, mostlim the green, so
brown one means like an historical landmark. So I did brown.
So the whole thing is like old to New York City.
Nineteen forty eight is when Puma started, like legacy and
then street signs. But I did the street signs, like
the names of my gym, certain things that mean something

(01:15:42):
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
So, yeah, I hope they do well.

Speaker 11 (01:15:44):
I got the one O six and Columbus Deli menu,
you know in the so it's like a little dope
things like my photographer took this from my from my crib.
This is like my view shot the next subject, so
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
And how did you get to how did you link
up with pooma so.

Speaker 11 (01:16:01):
Man when we first started, So no trainers ever signed
a sneaker deal, like a real sneaker deal, like an
NBA player sneaker deal.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
I've never heard of a trainer even getting a sneaker,
and it's crazy.

Speaker 14 (01:16:11):
It's like a trainer influencer.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Yeah, I hate that.

Speaker 11 (01:16:14):
Influence a word, but no, I guess you could say
that for sure. But so we I seen someone wearing
Rudy Gay was wearing Puma's. I sent my manager, but
we need to get this done. We end up getting
it done. So then two years into it, asked them
for a sneaker. They're like, no, I remember being on
the flight to alex like, yo, I gotta work harder.
Like next year, got a sneaker. First sneaker sold out

(01:16:36):
first day, and I'm like, damn, I didn't even think people,
second Sneaker, sold out, first day, foot Locker, Dick Sporting
Goods all of the world. Now this is the third one,
and uh, you know, I'm hoping it just does good
helping ourselves up.

Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
Man, it's dope.

Speaker 6 (01:16:50):
I heard you say earlier that you like to go
back to some of the places that you live when
you feel I cannot motivate it or you want to celebrate.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
What about what you do get you in a rupt
where you're not motivated?

Speaker 11 (01:17:03):
Sometimes, man, just uh, I feel like I'm giving all
my energy, right, I feel like, so, say I have
seven workouts today, every seventh player that comes in, all
seven players, they want the full Chris Brickley. So I
feel like seven pm comes and like my brain is done.
And sometimes that affects my personal life, like I'm not
giving my girlfriend the energy she needs, or I'm not

(01:17:25):
giving my family I have. I have a big family,
or maybe I'm it just and I know you guys
know how that how that works. But so just any job,
and then sometimes the players, one superstar player might not
like it if I'm marking another superstar player out. So
keeping the politics and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Yeah, you surprised by your fame sometimes because I know
you came to the call show last week and just
like people were taking pictures with you like crazy, like
it would be like almost surprising to you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
My boy next so he's seen it all.

Speaker 11 (01:17:55):
He was when no one knew me he was there,
so shout out. The next he was with me at
the at the car show. So you know, I'm looking
at the BMW's first off, your car shows fire, thank you,
I'm gonna go back, and I was just trying to,
you know, take pictures and then you know, one dude's like, yo,
we do an interview, we had some podcasting. Then another

(01:18:16):
dude's like, we take a picture and there's just like
six people right away, And I was just like it's
it's amazing right to have that. But just sometimes like
where I live, it's an issue. I have to promote
where my gym is and where I live, so as
people waiting outside that I want to propose stuff and
it's just like, uh, I want some privacy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Yeah yeah. I started feeling like your car show were
not his, but it was dope.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Though, oh thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
I want to ask you know, when it when it
comes to these trainers and they seek you out.

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
Do these people pay you?

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Does Lebron cut you a check for training? Or does
these people You'd be like, nah, I'll train Lebron for free.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Yeah no, so they'll all pay.

Speaker 11 (01:19:00):
Everyone I trained pays, but I let it. I like
leave it up to them, especially like the superstar players.
I know I'm getting some out of it, so I'm like,
whatever you think that you deserve, pay me now. The
young guys, I feel like some guys come to me
because they just want an Instagram post to have like
a big platform, and I'm like, nah, I'm not. If
you want to work out a week or two weeks,

(01:19:21):
we can do it, but I'm not doing the one workout,
one Instagram post. We're not doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
What's the most you got paid? You know what you
got to say? Who's from just the most you got
paid to train with Chris Breakley?

Speaker 11 (01:19:30):
Well, I guess I'll give you two answers.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
Gary V.

Speaker 17 (01:19:34):
Did it like.

Speaker 11 (01:19:36):
Did some of my charity thing? Someone spent? Was it
fifteen thousand dollars to train on me? But as far
as like how much I charge someone, so usually it
would be like I won't be in a good mood,
I'm tired. Someone asked me to train, and I just
give some crazy number, thinking say no because you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Don't feel like it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
For sure. We got that for sure.

Speaker 11 (01:19:55):
So I got twenty five hundred, like a thirty minute workout.
That was the most for sure. Yeah that's which is fine,
which is cool.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
I mean, it's just it's not like now you did
say you're you know, sometimes your your your girlfriend and
your kid doesn't get to see you like that. Who
are you outside of your brand? And yeah you do right,
because definitely matter as a person.

Speaker 11 (01:20:17):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
I'm not.

Speaker 11 (01:20:18):
I'm like a super introvert. So I watched the first
two my two interviews here and I'm like cringe. I'm like,
damn because that's not me. I get mad at Chai.
It's funny, like I'm like, but when I'm speaking to
Lebron or I'm speaking to KD or these like or
Bieber or Drake in a workout, I'm like, I'm super confident. Yeah,

(01:20:38):
but then I get I become introvert. But nah, I'm
just a super loving person, care about my people. That's
my whole life. Like when I told my dad he
could retire, that was like like I made it like
in my life and my that's how I feel. So yeah,
So I think I'm I'm a good person that take
pride in that I've learned though, as your life is living,

(01:21:01):
people take advantage of that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
How was Drake as a basketball player?

Speaker 11 (01:21:04):
He's gotten a lot better. He's gotten a lot better
for sure. Last time he came here like thirteen threes.
So he's still I was on his page. It's funny
these rappers come and like to me, like, doing a
show in front eighty thousand people's cool. They think a video,
a workout video on my gym is cool, and I'm like, yo,
all the things, like yes, that's it's funny.

Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
We're still kicking it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
With Chris Brikley, celebrity ball man.

Speaker 11 (01:21:28):
So I would say I got a girl in it guy.
So I worked with her, the singer for like six months.
She's nice, she's nice.

Speaker 14 (01:21:38):
She wanted to do it.

Speaker 11 (01:21:39):
Yes, yes, you knows. She wanted to try and make
the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
So basically the singer. Yeah, if you guys google it.

Speaker 11 (01:21:47):
Her successor no, this is two years ago, for like
almost a year ship if you google it as pictures
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
So we we trained.

Speaker 11 (01:21:55):
The The goal was She's like I'm gonna make a
WNBA roster and then uh, she had a label switch
some personal stuff and she's like, I just got to
get this album. And she's been in that mode. But
we were training every day she had she was making
fifteen threes in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Really wow, her NBA threes.

Speaker 6 (01:22:15):
You're gonna ask, they said, yeah, because I'll see them
when I've seen them.

Speaker 5 (01:22:19):
One time he played basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Not gonna if I could post up?

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
What was the guy?

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
The guy best Jacoal because I mean he hit.

Speaker 11 (01:22:28):
He came to me and he's like, yo, I know
him ten years too late, but I'm willing to give
you three months. Can you get me to become a
pro basketball player? And he played in NBA Africa and
then he played in the camp so that was ope.
He would put his kids to sleep getting his bike Jape,
you know the whole bike that he would ride his
bike to my crib. We work over two hours where
he instructed his jump shot. Yeah, made NBA Africa.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Have you ever played Chris Brown?

Speaker 11 (01:22:53):
So you know Chris Brown, that was my best friend
in the world for like four years too.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
Yeah, that's my man. So to a point where best remember, well,
I'm sorry, go ahead please.

Speaker 16 (01:23:02):
Chris.

Speaker 11 (01:23:02):
So to a point when I was working with the Knicks,
every day off we had, I would fly out to
LA and we'd chill, we'd kick it. He'd flying for
my birthday. That was my man. That's like I think,
so the whole music stuff. I started meeting all these
artists through Chris. So I'd come to New York with Chris.
He was like, he's already prime Chris. But he was
like super prime Chris, and uh, you know, I got

(01:23:24):
cast Snova on tour with him. I got so many
artists songs through being cool. That's definitely a cool thing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
But CB is nice.

Speaker 11 (01:23:32):
If he like wanted to be from like an eighteen
year old, I got a story for you. So I
coached at Ludacris Weekend, nine NBA players, one artist, Chris Brown.
He scored thirty points. Wow, this is like six years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Really? Yeah, how's Dirk?

Speaker 11 (01:23:49):
People say dirt yea Derk, and Dirk's good too, Dirk,
and shoot shout Dirk. You know everything that's going on.
I hope, uh yeah, I hope he gets that soon.
I spoke to him last night, k last night.

Speaker 17 (01:23:59):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Yeah, really, he's in good spirits.

Speaker 11 (01:24:02):
It was actually like really really good spirits and he's like, yo, bro,
He's like, when I get out, I'm coming to the
gym with training, I'm going league and he.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Said that, So yeah, shut out, Derek.

Speaker 11 (01:24:12):
Man, it's one of my good friends.

Speaker 14 (01:24:13):
He checking with you all the time.

Speaker 11 (01:24:14):
Yeah, we're super close. We're super close. And I was
super close with Vaughan too, Me and me and my
I got next the night before that happened. I remember
we're at I was at my house. I'm like sleeping
and he's facetiming me Van over. Oh He's like, come on,
pull up on me, Come pull up on me. We
pulled up on him. We got pictures. And then the
next day that happened, I was messed up.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Thank you well for yourself, yes too.

Speaker 5 (01:24:43):
All right, well, the shoe comes out September fifth, which
is next Friday. Make sure you go pick him up.
And where can people get him?

Speaker 11 (01:24:51):
So foot Locker, Dick Sporting Goods, Puma dot Com. They're
gonna sell out quicks then Beyond Grail and yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
All over the we all pro Nitro Two's Chris Brickley.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
Ladies and gentlemen, make sure you pick up a sneakers
that come out this Friday. Charlomage is already waiting online
of Dick, so he's there already. It is Chris Brickley
only everybody, it's DJ NV just hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
We are the Breakfast Club now, Charlamon, you've got a
positive note?

Speaker 18 (01:25:20):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
I just want to tell y'all, man, this is your
Monday morning reminder that you can handle whatever this week
throws at you. Okay, if you don't feel like that,
then I want you to get a new perspective because
whatever obstacle you're facing, it's not permanent.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Have a great day, Breakfast Club.

Speaker 15 (01:25:36):
You don't finish for y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Done,

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