The Breakfast Club REWIND (Swizz Beatz Interview, Eboni K. Williams Interview, Joe Clair Interview, Should You Look For Love And Not Wealth?)

Swizz Beatz Interview, Eboni K Williams Interview, Joe Clair Interview, Should You Look For Love And Not Wealth?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This radio shows any other mainstreams media outlet. Breakfast Club,
take you go, take it.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm gonna get break.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
The time you then will come here when it stay
DJ Nvy and Charlamagne the guy being here.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Next to all of you guys.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
It's really it's one of my favorite shows to do,
just because you'll always.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Keeping one honey, y'all keep it real. But what better
place than than here? I think everybody should go on
the Breakfast Club and start out. You want to shake
it up for me? Is it your time to get
it off your chest?

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Way up, whether you're mad or blast, time to get
up and get some Call him now eight hundred five
eighty five one oh five to one.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello,
this this is actually.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hey Ashley, good morning. Where you calling them from Columbus, Columbus?
Okay him, get it off your chest, mama.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
So I'm a stay at home mom, but I also
have my business on the site, and I just feel
like my husband is just so it's considerate half the
time that he doesn't understand.

Speaker 7 (01:03):
What I really do.

Speaker 8 (01:05):
You know, like in a lot of what that actually did?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, how you can fix that, Ashley, Ye go
away for a day watching them six kids.

Speaker 6 (01:13):
When I go away for a day, my kids they
called me.

Speaker 9 (01:17):
I was like, who's your dad.

Speaker 7 (01:18):
They'll be like, oh, he's in the groove.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
You turn off your phone for one day that and
let him have to deal with feeding them kids, washing
those kids, taking the kids out.

Speaker 10 (01:27):
Why are you giving this bad but that's down. Turned
off her phone for one day, you'd have a fit,
But turn your phone.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Actually, he doesn't appreciate her.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
So she's saying that she's a stay at home mom
and we've.

Speaker 7 (01:39):
Been together since high school.

Speaker 11 (01:40):
Like he's the only man I've ever been with.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
Like I really give everything.

Speaker 11 (01:43):
And all my time to everybody. Turn my kids, help your.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Flax and let him have to take care of the kids.
And I bet you when you come back, he'd be like, baby,
please don't leave. Baby, Baby, don't turn your phone off
for your husband.

Speaker 10 (01:55):
Man, because the envy would have a fit if Ye
turned off the phone for him out.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
But I was training my wife.

Speaker 10 (02:01):
I know how hard it is if six kids, you
still would have a fit if she turned her phone
off for a day. Imagine calling your wife. Imagine how
many times we call our wife a day and we
can't get in touch with On.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
The twenty five, he don't respect his wife, so he
cut it out respect.

Speaker 12 (02:12):
I agree he did that, but she's speaking for her
and you're speaking for you. So you respect your wife,
but that doesn't speak to how she feel about what
you present them. So he could think he's respecting her
and she may not feel it.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's true.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
But I wished that too, because I do understand that
communication that's key, and I wished that.

Speaker 9 (02:29):
And I'll be like, well, I just want this, so
I just want that, and I'll.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
Be like, okay, like in the morning, don't wake me
up and be like, well, I want And I was
about six months old. I would like.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
Tonight like I.

Speaker 10 (02:46):
Respecting subjectives though I was gonna say that to respect
and subjective.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
So I got to know what her definition of feeling disrespected.
She just told, you know what I'm saying, That's what
I'm like.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
Especially I cantered away. I had five other orders besides
the wedding this weekend, and I was just exhausted up
every hour with the.

Speaker 9 (03:06):
Baby, you know, and he's also on the weekends.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
But he didn't get up and help me. But he
didn't want to try to wake me up. And then
but the attitude when I'm like, no, get out my face.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
You might just have to wake him up at three
o'clock in the morning, sit on his face and be
like how does it feel?

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Now? That's you might have to do that. Thank you.

Speaker 10 (03:24):
That's not disrespect men, you know what I'm saying in
the morning, poor man, poor woman with the baby all night.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I get it, but that's not It might be inconsiderate,
but disrespect. There we go and considerate you love disrespectful
to go the other way right? Something right. So it's
like I'm bringing it to your radio bill, it's real
talking Hello, who's this good?

Speaker 10 (03:49):
Good?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Good? Get it off your chest, mama.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
I am really upset a lot of them this morning
because I had accidentally finding and when he changed.

Speaker 13 (03:59):
Up a car never carried over rental. So now I'm
having to freaking like get up brother in the morning
and dropped my release and we can't have the trouble
all week because of his if he like he's just like.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Damn, feels like everybody this morning that we can't really
hear you because you're so upset that you're yelling. But
all like we can hear is that you're mad at
your husband something about a rental car. He didn't give
it back and now you have to do it and
you would to Wilid.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
On his app.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
No, yeah, no, I got into a car accident on Friday.
It was my fault because I was rushing. But like
when he turned over, like when we chased cards, he
never put friends, Like how do you have on the
insurance with I don't know? No one figure out how
to get to work back and forth and we weren't
opposite wait and opposite schedules.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Also he got he got the rental and you don't
have one.

Speaker 7 (04:58):
You He never put rental when he changed over cards.
Don't you know when you get into an accident and
you have rental insurance.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Oh got you to the car, so you gotta pay
for the car.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Yeah, and it's like and.

Speaker 7 (05:16):
It's like we gotta pay for like bathing cheap.

Speaker 10 (05:19):
Well you should have got into accident, figured out, you know,
you shouldn't have gotten into an accident.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Man, it was your fault.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
You said that, but you know what, Okay, yeah, it
was my fault. But however, this is why we have insurance.
This is why we put options on there? What if
somebody would have hit me?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's not like all.

Speaker 10 (05:36):
It sound like both of y'all blaming each other for
things that out of y'all control. And that's why I
mean they should have put you should have put insurance
on your car. When people do that because they be like,
I'm never gonna get an accent. Why I got paid
his extra? That's what insurance and then saying, way, you
shouldn't have got into an accident. He probably should have
had insurance. But it's no need for y'all to be
pointing the finger at each other.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
I understand that. But like now, our kids have to
kids have to be yes to go and drop me
if that work.

Speaker 10 (05:57):
That's not saying you gotta figure it out though, that's life,
you know what I'm saying, You got to figure out
how to pivot in sometimes in life.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
So y'all arguing, now have a go with mama, get
it off your chest. Eight hundrenk five eight five one
oh five one. If you need to vent hit us
up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club,
right right.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Ray yo charloa man, yamfy, what up are we losing
this is your time to get it off your chest.
I got an indoor pool pool. We want to hear
from you on the breakfast club.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Get on the phone right now, He'll tell you what
it is.

Speaker 14 (06:29):
We lie.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Hello, who's this?

Speaker 15 (06:32):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
This is a game's up.

Speaker 16 (06:36):
I'm just pad at the older generation expecting that the
younger generation should have retire the same age as because
I'm at work and I see these guys, you know,
six something years years old working and they old.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Man.

Speaker 16 (06:51):
I'm just like, man, I can't be that old when
I retired.

Speaker 10 (06:55):
Well you know what they say, Well, somebody told me
back in the day, retirement is not an age, it's
an income. I don't even know if I believe that anymore,
because there's people I know that make mad money, but
they just love what they do.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, a lot of people love to work, and then
a lot of people, you know, honestly don't know how
to prepare for the future. You also got to think,
you know, this is the generation where we're starting to
learn more about financial freedom. So a lot of times,
you know that the generation before us didn't actually know
how to retire, didn't know how to save so they
can retire.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
So some people still have to work.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
That's why when you see sometimes when you go into
those supermarkets and you go to those places and you
see an older person working, you got to give them
patience and help them out because sometimes they're there because
they have to and they're just trying to, you know,
get by like everybody else.

Speaker 10 (07:36):
Yeah, and you know what they say when when you
stop moving, you know, you start to die. Yeah, some
people don't want to keep some people want to keep moving.

Speaker 16 (07:43):
I guess that's maybe the professional I'm in right I'm
an electrician. I'm in a trade out of Vegas right now.
And I mean these guys just don't want to retire.
They feel like if they retire, they're gonna die.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, I mean that could be a chance.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
And I'll be honest, I'd rather the mess with the
older electrician or older mechanic or older doctor because a
lot of times they didn't see everything, they didn't been
through it.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
You know, Like that about your president, you feel like,
I feel like.

Speaker 16 (08:11):
This should be an age president, just like they got time.

Speaker 15 (08:15):
You had me.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Y'all want y'all want everything else.

Speaker 10 (08:20):
Age. You want your cognact age, your electrician age. But
when it comes to your president. You don't want your
own president.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
You using a mechanic or electrician like they've been through
everything to see what works and what doesn't work. And
a lot of this new generation they rely on AI
or computers to see what's wrong I rather than tell me.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
But for president, he keeps falling. Your president definitely keeps falling.
Tell you the president need a care Give Hello, who's
this morning? I can hear you. Now, come on and mama,
get it off your chest.

Speaker 17 (08:48):
Drive.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I'm a post the picture. That's right. Yeah, I ran
into you at the airport. We were heading into Aruba,
right right? How you doing man? You're being safe out there?
This is our bus driver from the Bronx.

Speaker 13 (09:03):
Yeah, I'm doing this.

Speaker 18 (09:05):
School does say good morning.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
You just called this SA good morning?

Speaker 15 (09:08):
Right?

Speaker 11 (09:08):
You be saying every day is something different in the Bronx.

Speaker 19 (09:13):
Especially in the Bronx.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
The Bronx will be safe out there morning.

Speaker 15 (09:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
But then you be the same person screaming BX at
the show. No I don't.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
I'm duck when it's X, and they say I'm like yes, yes,
but get it off your chest.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Eight hundred and five eight five one oh five one.
If you need to vent hit us up now, it's
the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Longas State. You know there was a shooting there recently. Yes, uh,
you guys have canceled the homecoming and there was a
lot going on. So have you reached back out to
the school.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
How how is.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Everything happening now? Because I know you're you're big when
it comes to giving back to that school.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
So I was supposed to actually host our homecoming gala,
which is the biggest fundraiser of the year. Our host
the gaily Year's shirt you know, tuxedo out, and that
got postponed to December the eighth. The official homecoming got canceled,
but Black people homecoming went on as planning. Oh they
were still party. They called it because the homecoming got canceled.

(10:21):
Brunch because the homegum got canceled. Day party because the
home So we you know, you have thousands of people
who were looking forward to this weekend. So they came
down and had a great time and showed solidarity after
the shooting.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
You had mothers. There was a group of mothers who
got together.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Who didn't have kids in school, who came up just
to show support for kids who were far away from home.
Who needed a mom, If you need a hug, if
you need to ask a mom question real quick, we're
standing right here. And so while the tragedy happened, and
you know, our prayers are with those students and their
families and everybody affected, there's also this gigantic push of solidarity,

(11:00):
this gigantic push of unity. This is a new Morgan state,
and we're gonna stand together to shake off some of
the old reputation and move in a new positive way.
When things like this pop up, it throws a monkey
rich into the we're a new Morgan thing. So we
came out even stronger.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
That's why I've been I've been orange and blue since
that day.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
You know, my kids are walking around with the hats
and everything else, and I'm screaming it out as much
as I possibly can. These institutions. You know, I don't
have to come on here and appreciate to you what
an hby means for our community. So you know, at
this time in my life, I'm happy to be able
to be there for my school.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Whatever they need.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
They call me for anything, if the students need anything,
my frat brothers need anything, they hit me up and like,
let's go do X, Y and Z.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Do you think they should have canceled on coming.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
I think it was a good call by doctor Wilson
is an incredible leader for that school. And let's imagine
if he didn't cancer this black Mama ain't canceled, it's
a tragedy. So he did the smart thing, he did
the thing that someone in academia should do. Let's cancel this.
Everybody else though, we went and partied and everybody had

(12:10):
a great time.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
All the events around homecomings. Yeah, none of that. You ain't.
You ain't canceling rare essence.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
You ain't canceling the go go because you know, you're
not even supposed to have a go go in Baltimore
in the first place. So the fact that you got
a go go in Baltimore or we coming, and you're
not canceling that you can't Baltimore. It's too old Baltimore.
Most of the country doesn't really doesn't know that. There
is a unspoken rivalry between the African American community and

(12:39):
Baltimore and the African American community in DC.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
They got their own language. They and so we have too.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
We grew up with two different Like you said, culches,
different accents, music, food, we did, way we dress and
the and the like.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
So when I got to Baltimore, there was no go go.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
But so ever you did not don't even don't even
bring that up in Baltimore now because of I think,
because of the twenty thirty is that DC has been
heavy going to Morgan State making alliances in the city.
My wife is from the west side. First, let me
say that my wife is from the West side of Baltimore.
And when I married a Baltimore woman, the DC women.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Like, hold on, ah, y'all, no, that's not what we're doing.
I was like, Oh, that's what we do. You ain't.
You don't sleep with her, you haven't had some of
that that old bait that she served.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
She's got a crab boy for your ass that you
you don't know nothing about. And so I think that
there's slowly, but surely there's there's an alliance that has
been coming between Baltimore and DC. At least the the
hard line has been softened. I won't say that is
an alliance, but the hard line has been softened. But

(13:58):
you never hear about this rivalry that we had that
goes on. I think it's the stupidest thing ever. I
think that the two communities, African American communities in those
major cities. D C's a major city, Baltimore is a
major city.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I think we need to come.

Speaker 10 (14:13):
Yeah, anything that brings you all together, I would think,
like comedy, right, because I think your comedy underrated comedy
is an underrated comedy scene in Baltimore, DC.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
You got Dave, you got Donall so here quick, just hilarious.
So here's how we feel about that. The same applies.
So it's like this growing up. Anything coming out of Baltimore,
you just automatically x and if you in Baltimore, anything
coming out of DC, you just automatically x NA.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
You don't know them. I learned that from my my
Baltimore gooons.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
What's up with y'all? I ain't saying no name, what's
up a y'all? But I know some straight goods, and
you know Baltimore. You know, the wire was real.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Let's let's let's keep let's keep it the buck. The
wire was real, and the climate in Baltimore, it's it's serious,
it's very very serious.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
So it's gonna take thirty forty years for that alliance
to pop off.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
It was talking about black folks who are setting their ways.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Black folks are very very slow to change, and unless
you have a reason to change, a very straightforward reason
to change, ain't ain't gonna be that much change when
we come back with Kicking It with Joe Claire, so
don't move.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning, the Breakfast Club, wanting
everybody's DJ n V.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club, but kicking
it with Joe Clair, of course from Rap City Charlomagne.

Speaker 10 (15:37):
Another thing too, I was watching the doc Man, I've
always loved the interview you did with Big.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's that's the iconic in the Biggie and I knew
that was Big. I couldn't. I knew that was Big
last interview. It was his last television interview. I think
I think I think swave might have been his last
radio and he was going, he went to the radio.
Now did y'all shoot that in La? Shot it in La.
That's what we was laying like in the park, right
we sit in So we really were on a sound.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Stage and they were shooting the hypnotized video. The dance
scenes were going on in there. So they took a break.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
From that, sat us outside and that's how that interview
popped off.

Speaker 10 (16:14):
Always wondered, were you concerned for your safety shooting out
in LA at the time, because it was all the
East Coast West Coast beef and all of that.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
I'm concerned for my safety every day, so my head
is always on a swivel. So I didn't feel any
more concern than I normally feel when I go to La.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I just know, like doing Rap City.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
The thing that I knew was when you go to
somebody hood, when you go to a city, you abide
by they rules.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
You shut your mouth, don't start no shit, won't be
no sea.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
So nah, I didn't have any extra concerns for my
safety that day. We had plenty of security ANIMI civilian.

Speaker 20 (16:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Then I sit and I do the interview. It's a
great day season Junior Mafia right behind us. The dancing
girls are over there. Of course, then Big City. You
want to smoke something, day just got better. I'm not
a smoker, but.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
If you're gonna smoke with somebody, you're gonna smoke with
biggie smoke.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
So I had to catch a red eye that night
because I was going out on the Deaf Comedy Jam tour.
This was the first night, so I had to fly
home Wednesday after getting the interview, pack my bags, get
on the tour buses coming from Kid and pre Little
Jersey coming down to DC, pick me up, and then we.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Drive to Dallas. We do the show in Dallas. The
next night we go to Houston. Do the show in Houston.
Had a ball and three thirty four o'clock in the morning,
Kid called my phone, like, Yo, they say, biggie guy's shot.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
You know, it's four o'clock in the morning. You've been
out drinking, like whatever, you know, it's just some more
hip hop here say book. Then my girlfriend at the
time called me.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
She was like, they say, biggie guys shot. Let me
turn on Headline News, y'all member Headline News.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Then every half hour first story rapper Christopher Wallace has
gunned down.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
At this point, the interview wasn't out. Interview's not out.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
I just was this is Sunday morning. I just was
dead Wednesday. This is Sunday morning at six in the morning,
So nah, no interview out. They ain't get time to try.
They still a party and just those next couple of
weeks when I got to reflect on it, I realized
I was just numb because Tupac had just died and

(18:10):
now Biggie got killed.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
I was like, we cannot be that dumb?

Speaker 20 (18:14):
Are we?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Black folks were really not that stupid? Are we? Is
this who we are? Tim and Sean that unfortunately it's sad.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
It was.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
It was one of those times Charlemagne and Envy where
I really just I'm very us.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
I was like, man, I man a lot of that,
so a lot of the like hanging out and I
just did not want to do like because I don't
know what you on. And then and I watched cats,
I knew some of the most righteous dudes. Next thing
I know, he he come with the chain and he
gotta get his swaged together. You you, you've been made

(18:49):
since you was nineteen years and ten years old.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
You've been made.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
You've been a man. I know your family, I know
what you staying on you switching up because you think
this is what the coach a dog man and has
colored how I see us.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Since then, nothing has changed your mind about us.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
I mean remember, leading up to that, I sat in
the middle of the East coast West coast thing. Every week,
every day, every rapper's got something to say about the
other coast.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
That what made you start saying East Coast, West Coast worldwide.
I took it straight from the Lost Boys.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yes, we really need to we really need to do
this big shout out to Mac ten and Fat Joe
because I don't know if you guys remember they did
a movie Thinking and Water Up something like that. And
then and Fat Joe realized and Fat Joe used to
be coming up to this show like man that I'm
keeping the flame going on this East Coast West Coast.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
After that, I see Joe and he's like, now they cool.
And then as you used to see mac ten and mactin.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
Like nah, they cool, They're super cool. And then you
found out it really wasn't the East Coast versus. It
was the media making in and it was Park against
Biggie and they used to be best friends. And now
we're looking at really this came down the two best
friends fell out. Now they have other influences and that
just got bigger and bigger and bigger.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
The control you know, we have.

Speaker 10 (20:05):
We have conversations on the Breakfast Club that have ended
up confrontational did y'all have any of those on Rap City?

Speaker 5 (20:10):
That y'all y'all the only person who ever like tried
to sum me he sum me one time. It was
my first live taping and I'm interviewing Pete Rock and
cl Smooth.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Oh my heroes.

Speaker 21 (20:22):
My.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I know they album back to backward and forward. I
know everything.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
I know every syllable of that album. So it's like
five four three two go. I'm like, ah, it's Rap City,
Joe play here, blah blah blah blah blah blah blahn do.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
My thing, So what's up with you?

Speaker 5 (20:37):
And then I don't get nothing from cl He's pretty
So then the cameras cut off.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
He's like, Yo, son, you mad extra? I SA said,
what what you mean? He's like, yo, over the top,
He like mad extras? Yo, bring it down a little bit.
Five four three two.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
All right, y'age man, Joe Clear here on Rap City,
I Got Bigger?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
How do you hear that?

Speaker 15 (20:59):
End? For me?

Speaker 5 (21:00):
I took it as a vet somebody who was in
the industry showing me what he thought I should be.
No skin off my, you know that's what you think
I should be already? No Joe Cliar and if it's nothing,
I know Joe. I know what Joe Clin do and
I stayed extra for five years.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
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Speaker 5 (21:24):
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(21:51):
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Speaker 1 (22:08):
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Speaker 3 (22:18):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club. Your
mornings will never be the same. Are you someone who
knows you don't have to sacrifice comfort for quality, someone
who lives large in life and in the bedroom, then
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talking about this interview that Tyler Perry said, and Tyler

(22:40):
Perry said this in the interview.

Speaker 22 (22:42):
In our society right now, black women are making a
lot more money for the most part than black men.
Right There are a lot of black men who are successful,
but for the most part, black women are making the money.
So you, if you can find love, if that man
works at whatever job and it's a good man, and
it's good to you and honors and honors the house
and honors white and does what he can because his

(23:06):
gift may not be your gift exactly. That is okay,
that's not somebody who's beneath you. That's somebody who came
to love you at your work, right and as long
as he's secure in himself to know that, yep, she
makes more of the money. All I can pay is
the light deal. As long as she's comfortable enough to say,
I'm gonna cover the mortgage and all the other stuff
you've handed the light deil baby, you can take me
to dinner and every now and then.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
That is fine.

Speaker 22 (23:28):
Yeah, that love, that support that I got your babe,
it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
So we're asking eight hundred five eight five one five one.
We're talking to women out there, are black women out there.
Do you believe what he says? Do you believe where
you know? You should stop looking for a pockets and
look more for love. I definitely think everybody should stop
looking for pockets. You should definitely look for love. You
should look for a person that's got good character. You look,
you should look for a person that's got a good spirit.
You know what I'm saying, Like somebody that's gonna hold

(23:54):
you down, you know, as a human, like because finances
go up, finances go down. Like, it's not always gonna
be about money. If if, if all, if all it
takes is money, what are you you hope.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Matter now? It takes money? Response up here?

Speaker 21 (24:11):
Okay, but keep in mind, as much as you're telling
us to go look for deeper than just the wallets,
some people just don't have any depth.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
There's nothing else to them.

Speaker 10 (24:20):
Well, I don't think you have any depth of all
you're looking forward to money? No, I don't think if
all you're saying is I wanted somebody with money.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
What if he checks all the boxes.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
He's a great guy, he treats you well, he's you
can see him being a great father.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
He does everything except financially.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
It could be friends because for me, No, look for me,
I'm just saying ambition, like that's more important than money, Richie.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
So ambition equates the wealth, like you have to have
wealth to be ambitious. No, no, no, no, that makes
zero sense. But let's let's let's let's go to the
phone lines. A lot of people that he's filling women
in a pair of tough boy and that's what he's saying.

Speaker 11 (25:04):
Hello, who is hi?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I'm Jocelyn, Hey, Jocely, good morning, good morning. Now let's
let's talk about what Tyler Perry said. What's your thoughts.

Speaker 19 (25:11):
I think Tyler Perry's statement is rooted and idealism, Like
we're not talking about millionaire salaries. We're talking about average salaries.
And even if it's two hundred thousand or three hundred
thousand and eight dollars a year that a woman is
making men contribute different things to a relationship as you women.
So a man who doesn't make a lot of money
is not going to come in the house and cook

(25:32):
and clean and you know, show up a nice launderie
and do all those things.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Why would I be wearing en? They still? Why would
I do? I would cook and I would clean. You
know what I'm saying, You're acting person.

Speaker 19 (25:50):
They've always been apt to settle, and then when they
fall and their salaries full and they fall into financial situation,
it's like, why do you marry that, brokelyn? Why do
you marry a man who keeps that too?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
And you attract what you are?

Speaker 19 (26:02):
Always realistic?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Settle? Now, I don't think this is settling. I really
don't think this is settling.

Speaker 10 (26:09):
I think that you know, you shouldn't asked for anything
in somebody else that you don't have in yourself. Don't
look for nothing in anyone that you don't have in yourself. Now, see,
I really feel like, can you make those kind of
demands in me?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
I really feel like when when I think things got worse,
when people started concentrating on money, right, and I just looked.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Back at my parents, my aunts, my uncles, my grandparents.
They didn't have money. It was just it was about love.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
My dad was a police officer, my mom worked at
an insurance compan They wasn't money.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
They just fell in love.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
But then I also think about you know, when I
met my wife, I was fifteen sixty, it wasn't about money.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
We didn't have any money.

Speaker 10 (26:40):
Can you imagine being this is this thing about you
broke as hell, but you like I don't want nobody
but a rich man.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
You broke.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Why would that rich man want you? Brookie shouldn't be dating.
I don't believe that either. Where are these stupid rules
coming from?

Speaker 23 (26:54):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Hello, Hey, what's your day? Hey? What's your thoughts to
what Tyler Perry said? Mama.

Speaker 18 (26:59):
I I do understand where he's coming from, and I
do also understand where Tarva, Maine is coming from, because
I steel that way as well. But I don't think
he's say, lord, your standards. I'm just I think he's
just speaking on if you are with someone who just
works a regular nine to five, and he's affecting that,
he's treating you right. He's taking care of the things
that he can take care of with. If you're working,

(27:19):
you can take care of something, and it's a genuine person.
Don't try to look for someone who makes all of
this money just for you, not to receive other things
that's important as well, like don't necessarily worry about finances.
But I do understand where Scharla Maine is coming from.
With women, they do cand to always say they want
to stand with so much money and all these things,

(27:40):
but they don't have as much money as well. They
want a man with all these fancy cars if they
don't have none at all.

Speaker 10 (27:45):
Right, so right, because why would a rich man want
a broke woman? Why would I want a woman who
just wants me for my money? You know what I'm
saying that I'm gonna end up giving you half of
everything that I've ever acquired when this relationship is over.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
For what now? Victoria, somebody else that works pair just
came and she came in here so dominican. Just now,
she came in here, very mean.

Speaker 10 (28:04):
She was so Dominican when she walked in this room.
Tell him to say exactly how you said it when
you walked in the room.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I said, we can't be two Broki's together.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
And I said, yes, you can't. No, we can.

Speaker 10 (28:14):
And sometimes you might just have to be. There might
not be any other choice, but y'all might come up together.

Speaker 21 (28:20):
But when we get into that situation of like, oh,
I'm not happy, Like but you knew what he was
when you met him, and now you were sitting here
telling me I need to rock with the brokes, makes
you think you're.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Gonna be happy with the rich man.

Speaker 10 (28:29):
The rich man gonna probably treat you worse because the
rich man is like, you don't bring nothing.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
To the table. You keep saying financially So what is
financially stable? I just said, someone that's able to take
me out as well.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'm not asking for no boogie sever anything.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Give me a number. What's financially stable to you?

Speaker 8 (28:50):
Salary rise? I would like for her to be at
least like eighty thousand.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Okay, I like that.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
So if you're just joining us now with a collective
up pair our producers that work in the back and waterfalls,
that is Victoria. You came in here, a little spicy Victor.
Now for God treats you well, that's everything he's supposed
to do. He's not cheating, know how to sucer.

Speaker 18 (29:15):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
But does not have much money? Do you still date them?

Speaker 8 (29:22):
Yeah, as long as you're not too broke.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
But that's all. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (29:28):
I just don't want you to stop looking for love, man,
something for good character in people.

Speaker 13 (29:33):
Man?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
What happened to?

Speaker 4 (29:34):
So y'all don't want to go against what managed supposed
to provide and everything else, y'all want to go against that.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
What is it supposed to provide? We work hard, some
some some what they can.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
All I'm saying is me where I'm at. That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
And that's all.

Speaker 10 (29:47):
I don't look for nothing in anybody you don't have
in yourself each other.

Speaker 15 (29:52):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Well, if he's a good guy, blah blah blah, but
he's not at the level that I'm at.

Speaker 10 (29:56):
No, no, no, But I want you, first of all,
I would encourage people never detailer because she's a terrible person.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Human means very Never want to a woman like that.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I'm going to challenge you.

Speaker 8 (30:18):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
So let's go to the phone. The Philly women are crazy. Hello,
who's this Eric?

Speaker 11 (30:25):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Good morning? What do you think of what Tyler Perry said?

Speaker 23 (30:29):
I think she was wrong, I honestly do it's in
the Bible. I mean to get out and man, I'm
just saying read the Bible like that's that's the hierarchy.
I think the man is supposed to protect and provide, like, yes,
I gotta take you might just.

Speaker 24 (30:49):
Be one of my kids.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Doesn't necessarily mean by chingel bags and burkings and cars.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
That means food and make sure you're safe. And you
think a man can't protect and provide for you just
because you got more money, But then.

Speaker 24 (31:00):
Why am I making more money in the first place?
Is the question? If you're supposed to be I mean.

Speaker 23 (31:04):
A real man is not going to take that.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
A real that's not true.

Speaker 24 (31:08):
The household.

Speaker 10 (31:08):
Now, I wish men thought that men. If men thought
like this, women wouldn't. Who would have been Who would
women be?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
With women?

Speaker 19 (31:15):
I'm actually thought this.

Speaker 24 (31:17):
Some cultures they don't even allow their women to work.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
I'm not I'm not agreeing with that because I'm.

Speaker 24 (31:21):
An independent woman married an independent woman. But at the
same time, I believe the man is supposed to hold
everything down. A woman is supposed to hold down the kids,
the household, him mentally, physically, emotionally, And why I have
to do all of that and provide the money as well.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 10 (31:39):
If you already got the money as a woman, if
you rich already, there's only one other thing to have,
and that's love.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
It one other thing to have. That's a man that's
gonna hold you down, to protect you and care for you.
That's it.

Speaker 9 (31:51):
But how do we love himself?

Speaker 24 (31:53):
If he's an adequate to provide financially, he might.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Have twelve inches. Whoa, he may have, that's what you need. Second,
the man might have twelve inches man, the man nobody
want that wants that. Y'all want twelve inches. Y'all want money.
I don't know what y'all of the story. We know

(32:17):
what you want.

Speaker 10 (32:18):
The story is just simple for me. Don't look for
nothing in anybody you don't have in yourself. And everybody
got to stop looking at finances. That's the reason to
be with somebody. So at the end of the day,
finances ain't gonna keep you all together. Love is gonna
keep you all together, you know, because you gotta grow
old with this person. You gotta actually like this person.
You know what I'm saying. If y'all don't have that,
I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 21 (32:39):
He also needs a four oh one k Jesus.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
All right, well, sure, nice person, right, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 21 (32:46):
There's plenty of rich men that will treat y'all terribly.
How we're gonna grow old together? If you can't afford
to grow old together?

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Damn making what I'm talking about right now? I just know.
Tell me why rich man would want to broke woman?
Nobody can ever rich?

Speaker 10 (33:00):
Okay, Why would a financially stable person want a woman
who's not financially stable? Why would a financially stable man
want a woman who's not financially stable?

Speaker 24 (33:11):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
I agree with you.

Speaker 8 (33:14):
You know, they like the church, but that's also their
ego to that's a girl.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
A lot of times, a lot of guys want to.
I know a lot of guys that want to be
able to make more than the woman for their ego standpoint,
not necessarily like.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
And I would tell you that's not the type of
man y'all should be doing. All right, well, I will
tell you, I would tell you run from that type
of guy. It's the breakfast leg of morning.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
The breakfast club.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Everybody, Charlamagne's god, we are the breakfast club. We have
Laura La Rose to hear our special guest host, and
we got a special guest with us today.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
We had a topic talking about some statements that she said,
Ladies and gentlemen Williams, don't nobody stir it up, like
what's up envy, what's up? Charge more NB.

Speaker 14 (34:00):
I was going to be very very pissed and disappointed
if you weren't stucking in. So why well, because I
didn't know if I'd ever be back up here to.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Be candid why it was? It was it was tight
last Yeah, but God is good.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I came with my God le on, God Leon.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
We're good. It's really God is good. I would say this.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
You know, every time we have a conversation, we're always
not going to agree, but you're always invited up here regardless.
I mean, we're not gonna agree on everything, but the
best thing about it is just having a conversation. So
never think that you can't come up here for something.
You say, No, that's what these conversations and these platforms
are about.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
I'm half playing, but it's a good point and it's
it's worth saying out loud.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
So I appreciate that, and I love you, sister. I don't.
I don't want you to think I don't love you.
I love you for real, like I appreciate everything that
you do.

Speaker 14 (34:43):
And it's just like anything else. You go hardest in
the pain with your family, So in the paint and
in the paint that's on your face.

Speaker 20 (34:49):
And shut up.

Speaker 8 (34:50):
I'm happy here.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
I would love to have a conversation with you about
the video.

Speaker 10 (34:54):
Now, what's the topic of conversation. I feel like this
is a conversation that men shouldn't even be involved in.
What is the gist of the conversation.

Speaker 14 (35:01):
It's not for you, Charlamagne. So I'm glad that you
said that this is a conversation for ladies. And I
texted my good friend Charlemagne. I said, it's a friend
of the show. I heard the conversation yesterday. I appreciated
the critique and the constructive nature of it, and I said,
you know, since I'm down the street on the train,
let me pull up and I want to hear from you,
Lauren about what you agree with and what you disagree

(35:23):
with and have a lady's conversation.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
About let's do it.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
Yeah, So I think for me, I'll start with the
what I disagree with.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Let's go come first for people that don't know you
want to you want to play the clip of of
what went viral.

Speaker 8 (35:34):
So people understand that clip to bring everybody up this red.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
You got the clip, Let's play the clip, right. The
reality is.

Speaker 14 (35:41):
That our marriage and partnership market value is depreciating with
every passing year. No matter how good we look, no
matter how fit we are, men are still seeing primarily
our presumed dwindling fertility.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
As a knock against us. So here's my advice.

Speaker 14 (35:59):
If you are a young Black woman in college and
you know in your heart and in your head that
you want to prioritize family, I suggest that you simultaneously
pursue that mrs degree right along with that BA or JD.
Because a handful of black college age men that actually
do desire to get married soon, and they do share
that value system and family is a priority for them too.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Y'all.

Speaker 14 (36:22):
That is an incredibly small pool, and it's shrinking as
you get older, and by the time you reach my
age forty, you will be faced with different choices relating
to life, partnership, and motherhood.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
So I think, all right, So breaking it down into
what I agree and what I disagree with. So the
disagreeing for me came with the starting with the infertility
and the the market value they're appreciating. So with the infertility,
I know, I said this yesterday. Some stuff is science, right,
you can't get around that. But I feel like when
you start with that and you lead with that, it

(36:57):
then makes people get defensive and they don't even hear
the rest of it. I know, when I first listened
to it, I was like, oh God, this is going
to be another one of those conversations where like someone's
telling me, as a woman, by the time you get
this age, your life is over. And you know when
you're when you're like trying to figure things out and
you're like, I'm thirty one years old, right, Like I'm
recently out of a very long relationship.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
You want to feel not.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Charlamade Jesus, but I feel there's life after go ahead.

Speaker 8 (37:31):
But that's my point.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
It's like for me, I made a very conscious decision
with a lot of things in my life going to college,
being in the relationship that I was in, not being
in that relationship. Even with my like recent you know,
back and forth to East coast, West coast, like I've
always had to be very conscious and cognizant of the
fact that, like you know, as a woman, as a
black woman, right, especially working in the space that I

(37:52):
work in, I might not get that that other chance,
Like I gotta do it right the first time. And
I think talking about professionally, professionally and personally, okay, and
only because that's.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
What are your personal goals? Just so we're clear. Do
you want marriage?

Speaker 8 (38:06):
I want marriage?

Speaker 10 (38:06):
I want you.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yes, family foundation, I want all of that.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
I don't even have a number of kids. Once we start,
we start just yeah, but yes, I'm going to be
an amazing mom. But I just feel like when you
lead with the stuff that you lead with, it instantly
turns the conversation negative, and for someone like me who
is watching and learning and listening to you, it makes
it where now I am defensive.

Speaker 8 (38:31):
I don't want to watch, listen and learn.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
I don't hear the rest of what you're saying, So
now I'm not being taught, and I should feel like
I can listen to you and learn from you and
not feel like you're the op right, And that's how
it starts off when you instantly are telling me everything
negative about what I already am facing every single day,
and I think that that's a big part of it too.
It's like when you put certain troops in front of people,
it hurts, people don't want to hear it. But beyond that,

(38:54):
like you can't get around the infertility. The second thing
was the market value, right. I don't agree.

Speaker 17 (38:59):
Right.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
I don't know where you were at thirty one, But
for me, I feel like I'm just now getting to
the space where like the people that I'm able to
or not even able to, but the people that I'm dating,
the life experiences that I'm experiencing that are teaching me
what I want, what I don't want. I'm right now
in the best space that I've ever been in. And
that wasn't me in college. I didn't know what I
wanted in college. I didn't know who I was. In college,

(39:19):
I seen nothing, haven't done anything. I also, I didn't
agree with that.

Speaker 14 (39:24):
But yeah, asist because you put two big ones out
and let's break them down before we get ahead of ourselves. Okay,
so you're thirty one years old, a college educated woman
enjoying a very successful career in a high profile space.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I'm going to put my hands together for all of that.

Speaker 14 (39:41):
Now, when I say market value depreciating, Lauren, did you
hear what I said before that? Did you hear the
specificity of the particular marketplace I'm speaking about?

Speaker 8 (39:50):
No, which was that?

Speaker 14 (39:51):
Okay, So I want to just go back actually to
your first point, Laurd, which I think you are conceding
that you had a reaction to my commentary that it's
so visceral in nature that you actually shut down your
listening comprehension skills.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
He said that.

Speaker 14 (40:06):
So because of that, though, right, I'm not gonna sit
in a posture of ownership because you made a choice
to be limited in the way in which you received
and process the information.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Now, you are grown women, and you have a time in.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Me over what you choose to consume and what you
choose to not consume.

Speaker 14 (40:24):
So, when I was giving the advice the strategy the
game putting, you know, certain people up on some game,
I'm talking to a very limited pool of young black ladies,
the ones that are currently in school or immediately following
school or graduate school. And then the other caveat, I'll say,
the other place this information is in real time relevant

(40:47):
to are the mothers or even the fathers of those
young women.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
That's who this is for.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
So you, this is actually not even applicable to you, Lauren,
So no, no, let.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Me finish, nor I have to finish because no, wait wait,
I just want to wait before you finish your thoughts.
I just want to, like, let's rewind a little bit,
because I also think to the reason why people also
because not just me or the people, because even the
people it's meant for, I'm sure some of them did
the same exact thing as.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Well as not right and some did not because I
did not right, because you read all the comments.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Right, yeah I did.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
But I think what happens is with you and I
saying this in the most respectful way. I think that
the way that you approach things like even this conversation
right now, it can make it does that it dilutes
the whole point of like you for you talking to
me specifically, I agree with certain parts of it, but

(41:40):
I think that the my whole point of what I'm
saying right because right now I feel like you're taking
what I didn't agree with and the fact that I
don't remember specific words or whatever.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I'm not Lauren.

Speaker 14 (41:50):
Really, I really think this would be better served and
more productive if just like I, it's kind of like
an opening statement in a court of law. I gave
you a good amount of time to lay out two
prongs of disagreement, and I respect and appreciate both of
your positions. I'm not saying they are wrong, Okay, and
be messy. I'm not saying they're wrong at all, But

(42:11):
I am saying that I don't know how productive it
is to be the time manner and delivery police.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Right.

Speaker 14 (42:19):
So when we talk about and also the nature of
this work that we all do in this space of
media and journalists, whatever we want to call it, right,
it's very subjective in nature. So for everybody Lauren that
takes your position, which is very valid, it was visceral
to me.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I found it triggering. It felt hurtful. I felt attacked,
I felt policed, I felt hurt it.

Speaker 14 (42:39):
On whatever it is, there's also a whole nother contingency
of black women that felt seen by that commentary that
fell heard.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I had sores coming up to me.

Speaker 14 (42:49):
We had a fundraiser shout out to the pi Kappa
Maga chapter of Alphakappa offic already incorporated SKI. We had
a fundraiser that very night that that commentary dropped and
I had sores coming up to me, who are more
in my age group, right, Because that's the first thing
we need to acknowledge. Lauren and I are not the
same age. There's a good ten years between me and
this lovely young lady. So I'm speaking from a purview

(43:10):
of experience that looks a bit different, not vastly so,
but a bit different. I agree, And my peers who
are fortying up are like I wish someone would have
told me. And the fact that you are doing the
labor ebany, you are doing the service of letting young
girls that are currently in position to put themselves in

(43:31):
best practices because they are currently in school or graduate
school or shortly thereafter matters. And it's good that somebody
is rolling up their sleeves and doing the work and
having the conversation publicly that quiet as kept many pockets
of black elite culture are having with their children generationally

(43:53):
every day. Many of my peers long when I went
to UNC Chapel Hill, who were black just like me,
and you, right, they were taught going into the a
front end of freshman year, keep your eyes open, you know,
get those grades get that degree, I expect you to
go to medical school or law school or PhD. And
also if you want the traditional model, and that's a
big if. This is going to be the best time

(44:14):
to be surrounded by the highest concentration of black men
that are also pursuing the educational and fiscal model that
you are and you desire.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
And it's really no more or less than that. I
don't On the one second, guys.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
On the one second, ladies, we got to take a break,
so we'll come back, and we also want to take
some calls eight hundred and five five one, And if
you're just join us, that's Laurena Roster. She's our special
guest host today and Ebony Kay Williams is up here.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
And I think a very important when we come back,
let's talk about what we agree with in this Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
I want to coret to that too, because I don't
want you to feel like because what yeah, we're doing?

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Come back, all right, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning.
Everybody is DJ NV Charlamagne to God. We are the
Breakfast Club. On this Friday, we have Laura la Rossa,
our special guest host, and we have Ebny Kay Williams
joining us this morning, and we're taking your calls as well.
Eight hundred and five eight five, one oh five one.
Now we're discussing some comments that ebide K Williams made
that went viral yesterday. So now right before we left,

(45:11):
I cut both of you guys off so we can
pay some bills and get some musical on. So I know,
ebidy K Williams, you were talking.

Speaker 14 (45:16):
I was so I was acknowledging Lauren's right right to
consume content that she enjoys and feels comfortable with and
also reject that what she does that because her critique
at this point, I understand is is a bit about
my It's about my delivery as much as the substance
of what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
I think that the disagreement again comes in with how
you say it, and we don't get that vulnerability right.
So me sitting here with you right now is like,
this is what I want to feel when I see
the content. I might not always get that though, and
maybe it's not like you said. It wasn't for me,
it was for the girls that's still in college, right,
But at the same time it's placed on my timeline.
So I get it, and I feel it, and I
stop and I listen either way, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Glad you do. Shout out to the team at the grille,
go ahead, but you agree with you.

Speaker 8 (45:54):
But I was going to get to that.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
But what I did agree with was the fact, like
when you started talking about a pool of men getting smaller,
when it comes to those men who men who will
be honest about what they want when it comes to
the family a woman, they are actually worth the time,
the energy. It's it's consistent, you're getting the same energy
that you're putting out. It does get smaller as you
get older. And like now that I'm out here in

(46:16):
the dating world, I'm like, oh okay, and.

Speaker 14 (46:18):
Keep in mind you're only thirty thirty one, so it's
like as you get to forty, the pole the pool
has shrunk further, fifty even more so.

Speaker 8 (46:27):
And I've dated, I'm having a million from fifty, I'm
having a menack.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Listen, I'm not even I got.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I actually believe in the power of the tongue. So
I believe.

Speaker 14 (46:38):
So you speak, so you you have and you will desire.
I do want to speak to the fertility park because
it's very important. It is as I sit here with
y'all today, you know I'm literally onso fertility drugs. I
am preparing for my embryo transfer in the next few weeks. Now,
I am forty years old. Just turned forty a couple
of weeks ago. Y'all know I've been very transparent about
my motherhood journey. I'm doing it solo by choice. Our

(47:00):
froze eggs at thirty four years old.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I'm doing this.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
I'm excited to be a mom. I'm scared as hell.

Speaker 14 (47:05):
I know it's going to be the hardest thing I've
ever done in my life, and yet I cannot wait
to enter this mother era of my life. And Also, Lauren,
I don't think this is how most black women want.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I don't why solo by choice? Well, several reasons.

Speaker 14 (47:18):
Number one, I'm no longer willing to wait to activate
my pursuit of motherhood. I'm no longer willing to wait.
I've been married and divorced in my late twenties. I
had also a long term relationship many years ago. I
ended up engagement during the pandemic. I'm ready for my baby.
I am ready to pour into someone other than me. Finally,
it took me very long time to get here. But

(47:40):
when she ready, she ready.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Okay.

Speaker 14 (47:43):
Now, I don't think that most women, most black women,
desire doing this journey alone.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
I don't.

Speaker 14 (47:51):
It's very important. And I know that you mentioned yesterday
the egg freezing, so let's talk about that because I
think that that is marketed, not just you, Lauren, I
think in general, that is in a lot of these comments. Right, well, girl,
just freeze your eggs and don't worry about the rest.
That's some bulls, because I'm here to tell you because
I'm living it.

Speaker 25 (48:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I froze eggs at thirty four.

Speaker 14 (48:09):
I never thought in a million years I would need
to use them, right because why, I was at a loving,
committed relationship. These were my spare Have you frozen eggs
at this point, dude?

Speaker 8 (48:19):
No, I thought about doing it last year. I thought
about starting the process.

Speaker 14 (48:22):
Okay, So let me just and this is not investigative,
this is I'm just trying to see something here. Do
you know how many eggs on average a woman should
have on ice on reserve frozen for a probability of
one live birth.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
No, I don't about twenty.

Speaker 14 (48:39):
Then if I say, okay, how many egg retrievals are
required to get about twenty eggs and a woman that's
say thirty five and up, the answer is.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
At least two. What's the cost average of an egg retrieval?

Speaker 14 (48:51):
Amy probably knows this, but he knows it's between twelve
and fifteen thousand dollars per retrieval cycle.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Most assurances don't cover.

Speaker 14 (49:00):
Most insurances do not cover unless you're working at Google
or Amazon. And by the way, you probably need to
be married for them to cover it. Otherwise they consider
it elective. They don't recognize it as infertility in the
way that married couples that struggle to conceive half. So
what I'm saying is the egg freezing route, the single
motherhood by Choice route, the IVF route are amazing technological tools, Lauren,

(49:21):
but they are wealthy women tools.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Period. Let's be very clear. It's just more to it
than just freezing it.

Speaker 8 (49:27):
I get you, I think with that part.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
For me, I was speaking from my own personal experience,
and I think that like hearing you respond to it,
I can understand your response to what I said, but
I think maybe I should have been a little bit
more clear because.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
For me, at that still freezing though you have the money.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
At that time when I was thinking about doing it,
it was because the insurance that I was getting through
my employer supported that to a certain extent where anything like, yes,
it is expensive, but I would have been able to
figure it out, so I would.

Speaker 14 (49:53):
Think you should still do it. I want that to
I don't want that missed here. I'm still encouraging you
to do I.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Will say, I got a little bit, I got like
garret out of it, a little bit only be cares
out of God, don't do that. But but more so
because of what like MV shared with me, what you
talked about, like going through all.

Speaker 8 (50:08):
Of that and then it I'll go with you to
not work right, I'll go with you.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
We can talk about I'm.

Speaker 14 (50:12):
Very serious, I really so. So I'm saying two things here,
and this is important in this conversation, y'all. People have
got I encourage people, I'll say, to hold space for
more than one thing at one time.

Speaker 10 (50:21):
Now, I feel like whatever you just said now is
very important. All Ebony is saying is this is an
ideal and you don't want it.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
It's not. It's not you don't want folks to have
to necessarily go through this for me.

Speaker 14 (50:31):
Let me just reiterate that, because that's very important because
this is this is these these stakes are very high, Lauren.
I'm fifty thousand dollars into IVF Journey by myself, so
I don't have a husband splitting that with me, which
I which there's reasons why that's preferable for me.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
But I really need people to hear that.

Speaker 14 (50:46):
And I'm taking shots and I'm giving them to myself,
and I'm doing all this to bring life into this world.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
And I don't take it lightly because it's a very
serious thing.

Speaker 14 (50:54):
So I think when we were very cavalier, not not
just you, right, but in general with O just IVF
for oh, just marry outside the race obviously been there,
done that too.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
That that well, I heard some snow no king commentary.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Hold on, guys, Hold guys. We got to take some calls.
We got to take some calls. We got to take
some calls eight hundred because this one five you watch
if you listen. Okay, let's go. We gotta take some
calls when we come back. And I just want to
say this. I just want to say this.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Most people don't know what what Ebany's going through right
now with the with the viture the fertility. No, because
because most people haven't been through it, and the fact.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
That the people that listen to the whole the court,
they every day.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
But the fact that she has to do it by herself,
it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Like she has to put them shots in her stomach
and and and all that by herself, thank you. Most
people don't know it, Like I can't even imagine if
my wife had to do it by herself, or a
woman having to do it by herself and goes through
those doctors appointments.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
So it is a lot room by yourself.

Speaker 23 (51:56):
It's a lot.

Speaker 8 (51:57):
I can't imagine that.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Transform who talks will take some calls when we come back.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
I got to talk about this stuff that we agreed
with too, because a lot of people agree with somethings
that you said.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
The callers probably get to some of it, but but.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
You cain't got all that much time.

Speaker 14 (52:07):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Eight hundred five five one five one, let's go. It's breakfast.
Let morning, everybody.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
It's dj n B charlamagneaud We are the Breakfast Club.
Our special guest host Laura La Rosa is here and
Ebony K. Williams is still here. We're having a growing
up discussion this morning, and we're opening up the phone line.
The're gonna let h you guys out there get a
chance to chop it up with Ebony K.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Williams.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
All right, eight hundred five a five one oh five
to one, and we just want to say, it's a
respectful conversation.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
So as soon as the disrespect happens, we're banging on
that right much. Right now. Okay, let rovigate has happened.
We're on to something else. Now you stop at Charlemagne. Hello,
who's this? Hey Alicia? Good morning?

Speaker 11 (52:45):
Hey, how are you good?

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Good? Good? Ebony K. Williams to say, hey, you gotta
you got a question comment?

Speaker 11 (52:49):
Oh well, I just kind of wanted to agree with her.
First of all, she stated that if this is what
you want, and you're like, this is what I suggest,
So she was not pushing.

Speaker 18 (52:57):
That on anyone.

Speaker 11 (52:59):
But if we're there on it, that's when our counterparts
teach their girls so go to college and find a husband.
The education is almost sicking thear to especially white thither
women's So I don't see a problem with this.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Thank you, sister, That absolutely is true.

Speaker 14 (53:11):
So you know I went to UNC Chapel Hill, a
very predominantly white institution in the South, as the good
sister just mentioned, and that ring before Spring is serious
for them what they're looking to do, because our counterparts
tend to view marriage primarily through a lens of economic stability.
Let's be clear, and historically we know that is the

(53:32):
nature of marriage, correct, It's a transaction of sorts. And
I know, once again, you know, the tears are going
to roll when I say that out loud for some
because because they they are not willing to really stand
in the reality of the tenets of marriage in America today.
Mortgage right, So that's that's the reality, and our counterparts

(53:54):
do it all the time. The difference is they are
not shamed when they do it. I think that when
you see black girls and black young women going and
making the space for marriage as as much of a
priority as education, it flies in the face of a
generation that told me and mine.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Go to school, stay focused, don't get pregnant.

Speaker 14 (54:13):
Boys are a distraction, right, They're gonna throw you off
your game. Get your education, get your money, get your house,
get your power, figure out who you are stand in
it and then go partner and get married and live
happily ever after the challenge with that, because that's the
model I took. I'm proud to have taken it. I
had a little default starting marriage that was not for me,

(54:34):
so I divorced him. Not a problem, great guy.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 14 (54:38):
Here's the thing is most black women do want the
traditional marital nuclear family model. And when you get to
a certain level of income, as black women, a certain
level of power. It's a certain level of being able
to travel the world on your own dime and be
in the sky lounge without some dusty sun swipe. That's okay,

(54:58):
the shrinking happens. And also tell you what else you move,
differences you move. You think your swag is on a
thousand today and it's very high and I love seeing it.
Wait till you wait till you're over that million dollar
a year mark of income. Wait till it's like, wait
till you own your your one point seven million dollar
property in your own name and only your name is
on the.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Deed based on a true story.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
That's what I'm just saying you.

Speaker 14 (55:22):
Nobody's gonna be able to tell you unless they're coming
all the way correct, period, And that's going to make
that pool rather even smaller.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Go ahead, yeah, yes, who's this Sophia. Hey Sophia, what's
your question for Abany King Williams?

Speaker 26 (55:35):
Not question? Well, I guess a question. I have a
few things, like how were you raised? I was saying,
I've seen that you were forty I'm forty eight. I'm
a black woman raised with black women. We were not
raised to go look for a man. We weren't raised
to just go look for a ring. Oh my god,
I just have to have a man. We were raised

(55:57):
to respect ourselves, to love God, and if God saw
fit for us to be married, our husband would find us.
Like it's like you put your failures on how that
You seem like you failed because you didn't get a
ring in college, but you putting it off on other women,
especially black women. I don't know any other race, But

(56:19):
that's not how I was raised.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Okay, let any response? Oh yeah, good morning.

Speaker 14 (56:24):
It says so listen, I was raised by god fearing,
incredible black woman named Gloria who raised me to go
to school, go to more school, get the bag, and
stand in my truth and power. So that's the first
answer to your question. As for failure, I don't have
any in the space, Dear, I actually was married. I
had a beautiful cushion cut diamond on my finger until
I decided to give it back because I no longer

(56:44):
wanted to be married. So I don't have failure in
the space. The only reason I'm not married is because
I divorced my husband. Now, as to putting this on
black women, I'm doing no such thing. What I know
for fact, because I have sorority sisters, I have good friends.
I have a strong global sisterhood of black women who
tell me. Some of them tell me that despite their success,
despite their careers, and despite their money, they in their

(57:07):
car to hearts still desire marriage. It is something that
they want. And I think we got to get rid
of shaming black women for wanting what they want. For
the black women that that is already a desire of
their heart to be married in a timely fashion. That's
who this advice is for. If you don't want that,
I want nothing but what you want for yourself.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
I think a lot of people take the stance that
she took because you literally like a lot of people
don't know certain things right, they don't listen.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
But I also think that say they.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Part one more time. They don't know certain things that
they don't listen.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
But another important point is I think a lot of
people take you just as a personality and all that
you have going on as like you look and speak
down on people. And I think with black women's instantly
triggering because we've had that happen so much, right, And
that's why that happens where she's like, well, how were
you raised? Like even the way that she came into
that call was like you think that you're better or

(57:58):
do you think that you're doing something that other people
have not done?

Speaker 15 (58:01):
Right?

Speaker 8 (58:01):
And I think that happens a lot with you.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah, it's a projection.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, so I'm forty right, So none of that's new, Lauren.
Just so you know, like when you walk through.

Speaker 14 (58:08):
The world carrying yourself the way I do, having my
esthetic projections and presumptions about who I am and what
my values are come with the territory.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
But that's also why I do the work I do.
I got one hundred episodes of Holding Core.

Speaker 14 (58:20):
People can watch I'm on every day here locally in
New York Channel fifty five eleven thirty AM Equal Justice
with Judge Ebanie Yes, I'm judging you.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
And several other things. I got two books out of Ben.
I'm like what you said, Anny, I saw equal justice
in Vegas?

Speaker 14 (58:35):
You saw yeah, yes, naturally syndicated. I'm in eighty five
percent of American home, so there's lots of content to consume.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Well, let's go to another call up. Hello, who's saying Hi?

Speaker 10 (58:43):
My name is.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Hey, Tish. What's your question for Abney King Williams.

Speaker 11 (58:48):
It's not really good question.

Speaker 9 (58:49):
I'm just saying, well, first of all, good morning and everybody.
I just want to say that I am team Ebony
and I don't see anything that she's saying is wrong.
She blessed her uh platform, everyone who follows her know God.
As an old woman, I'm just giving you advice. I've
been there, I've been through college, and this is my

(59:10):
feelings based on my experiences, and I just feel like
she should be respected for it.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Okay, well, thank you for calling Mama. Appreciate it, Sis
than you have it for day. Let's put a button
on this man because I strapped this up.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I appreciate listen. I appreciate the platform. I appreciate the conversation.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Lauren.

Speaker 14 (59:27):
I think that as black women in particular, we got
to hold the space to have the difficult conversation.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
All right, well we appreciate you join us and Holding
Court podcast. We're back with season three. Soons.

Speaker 8 (59:39):
Did I keep the same energy?

Speaker 1 (59:41):
I don't know, man, was shrunk a little bit? Ask you?

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I don't know why I asked you.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
You watch Equal Justice too?

Speaker 3 (59:55):
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Speaker 15 (01:00:26):
I me ain't trying to beat donkey today no more.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm
not making these people do these days called Donkey of
the Day, and it really caught me off guard.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Damn Charlamagne, who got the Donkey of the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Day today, Well that's hilarious.

Speaker 10 (01:00:42):
Donkey of to day, for which was a double donkey,
it goes to thirty eighth year old Chief Chastain and
the Clovis Police Department. It comes a point in time
in life where we all must remember it takes to you. Okay,
to you, all right, kids, gather around your uncle Sharlah
would like to tell you about some things that have
been going on since the nineteen hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Okay. One of those things is the saying it takes
to you. Okay, are it takes to you to tango?

Speaker 10 (01:01:07):
That means that a situational argument involves two people and
they are both therefore responsible for it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
I repeat, It takes to you to tango means that
a situational argument involves two people and they are both
therefore responsible for it. It takes two.

Speaker 10 (01:01:23):
There's also a classic hip hop record that will make
anyone with a soul who grew up in the nineteen
hundreds and eighties lose their mind.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:01:31):
The reason I'm giving you this history lesson to day
is because in this donkey that I'm delivering, it absolutely
took to you, all right. See, Keith was arrested ten
times in one month. I repeat, Keith Chastain was arrested
ten times in one month. See y'all think I'd be lying,
Let's go to Fox twenty six News for the report.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Place.

Speaker 25 (01:01:50):
Local law enforcement agencies say they are very familiar with
thirty eight year old Keith Chastain, who has been booked
in Fresnoe County Jail not once, not twice, but ten
times in the last thirty one days. Chastain is from
Fresno and is currently facing eighteen felonies and fifteen misdemeanors
from his recent arrests. According to Clovis Police Department. His

(01:02:14):
charges include stealing six vehicles, a dui, vandalism, fraud, possession
of controlled substance, and more. Clovis Police Department alone says
it has arrested Chastain six times in the last month.
Around nine thirty Tuesday morning, Clovis Police received a call
about a stolen truck that Chastain was suspected of driving.

(01:02:36):
Police sayan officer found the stolen truck driving in Old
Town Clovis and followed it until more officers arrived. Officers
pulled Chastain over in front of Clovis Police Department and
arrested him without incident. Police say he was the only
person in the stolen truck and happened to be on
his way to pick up his personal property from Clovis

(01:02:56):
Police Department from the last time he was arrested, he
was in a stolen vehicle.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Now, as you just.

Speaker 10 (01:03:07):
Heard, Keith chas Dain was arrested ten times by Clovis
Police six times, okay, six times by Clovers Police, and
four times by other agencies. He was in a stolen
vehicle on the way to pick up his items from
the jail.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:03:25):
Now, if he had gotten locked up by different agencies
once or twice, I would understand. But if you get
locked up by the same agency, the Clovise Police Department
six times, six times, at what point does it become
the police department's fault as well for constantly letting you out?

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
At what point does it become a judge's fault for
constantly grant you bail.

Speaker 10 (01:03:45):
He's facing eighteen felonies and fifteen misdemeanors, with charges including
stealing six vehicles, dui vandelism, fraud, possession of a controlled substance,
and a whole lot more. At some point, maybe after
arrest number three, possibly after arrest number five, gurely, at
arrest number six, someone at the Clovis Police Department has
to say, no need to let this man out because

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he's just gonna come right back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:04:08):
If the Clovis Police Department had a customer loyalty program
like Starbucks or Subway or so far, this man Keith
would get his tenth arrest for free.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Okay, hit the rest of nine times, get your temh
for rest for free. Clearly, this man has a boyfriend
behind those walls. Either that or he likes the food. Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:04:24):
When someone shows you who they are, believe them. And
this man Keith has shown us he's a serial criminal. Okay,
so give him what he wants, and what he wants
is clearly zero bond, ten arrest in thirty one days.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results. So yes, Keith is insane because he
keeps committing crimes in the same crimes and getting locked up,

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And the Clovis Police Department is insane because they keep
locking Keith up for these crimes, the same crimes and
letting him out. They both are to blame. So please
give Keith Chastain a heat and give the Clovis Police
Department a hall together. Because it takes two to give
them the biggest he ha.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
This man wrote his name in jail. Ya, that's why
he said it.

Speaker 10 (01:05:08):
Don't write you name. They don't write your name on
the walls in jail. You keep coming back to that jail, Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
The breakfast club. It's six three six four six four
six five. Now, Swiss is this your son that played
soccer and then stopped?

Speaker 15 (01:05:27):
It's not all right, that's my little brother.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Everybody in the house is your little something man.

Speaker 15 (01:05:33):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Now, as we approach the holidays, what is this time
of year?

Speaker 15 (01:05:37):
Me and the youth swiss Man?

Speaker 20 (01:05:39):
Holiday times is definitely family times, Definitely time to, you know,
see how other people are doing, because I know iticed
like during the holiday times, I see a lot of
pressure come on people with what they can do and
what they can't do, and I just want to, you know,
I just want people to find their balance.

Speaker 15 (01:05:57):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
What do you find a time for a lot of
stuff that you're doing because you're producing, you do versus you're.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Traveling, you have kids.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
What do you find the time to continue to create
and do all these amazing things.

Speaker 20 (01:06:10):
Everything I do is under the umbrother of creativity, So
like I make the time and I need to stay busy,
you know, like that's the kids like to stay busy,
because I don't feel I started yet. To be honest,
I feel like I'm just now starting. Although I've done
a lot of things. I feel like I'm just now
starting because I actually know what I'm doing now.

Speaker 15 (01:06:31):
Oh, explain that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Expand on that you know what you're doing now?

Speaker 20 (01:06:34):
Yeah, because when I started, I was you know, I'm
a teenager and things was happening and moving so fast,
so you don't really know what you're doing at that age.

Speaker 15 (01:06:42):
You're just having fun. I still have fun.

Speaker 20 (01:06:45):
But now that that's past, you got time to say, Okay,
let me change different things, let me set different goals.
I went back to school to you know, the three
years to know what I'm actually doing instead of just
doing with people are telling me that I'm doing or
believing what somebody's telling me I'm doing it, instead of
really knowing what I'm doing.

Speaker 15 (01:07:05):
It's a big difference.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
What's your favorite holiday memory? Is it New York and
the Bronx?

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Is it?

Speaker 23 (01:07:11):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
What's what's your favorite holiday memory?

Speaker 20 (01:07:14):
It's all of them? Technically, like we we have fun
as a family. We have a big family.

Speaker 15 (01:07:18):
We have fun. We tell jokes, you know, we play pranks.

Speaker 17 (01:07:23):
Play a lot of games. You know, we're very competitive
with the ping pong, you know, Monopoly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Who wins a monopoly all the time?

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Monopoly will start an argument in my house at the
last three days in my crib, same who wins.

Speaker 17 (01:07:36):
Yeah, uh, at least is very good, very strategic. Egypt.
Egypt's very Egypt. He's like, he's like the monopoly man.
He's like Daddy war Bucks, like he's a he loves.

Speaker 15 (01:07:50):
Money, loves guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
He gives it Mom.

Speaker 20 (01:07:52):
And Dad was just counting the paper like he's addicted
to money. I'm telling like serious, he and.

Speaker 10 (01:08:00):
Do you have any what's your expectations for the holidays?
Because you know, you you your dad's been doing very
well for a very long time. So do you do
you even have any wants?

Speaker 15 (01:08:09):
I just want I want everyone to tune in to drive.

Speaker 17 (01:08:14):
But we just made it okay, then I want I
want everyone to just really cherish this time with their family,
Like that's what I want.

Speaker 15 (01:08:20):
I don't really have a lot of physical needs this year.
I have spiritual needs.

Speaker 17 (01:08:24):
I have family needs, and I want people to really
just just cherish this time with their loved ones right now,
because the state that the world is in right now
is just.

Speaker 15 (01:08:32):
Really we need that. That's real.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Let's talk about the show Drive, right that Drive is
a call show that comes out. Most people don't know
that anytime before I purchase a car, of course, Swizz,
and then when I get the car, I FaceTime Squizz.
So if a FaceTime ever comes up, Swizz be in
the bed sleeping and he wake up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
What did you get?

Speaker 20 (01:08:50):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
What did you get?

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
We're so excited for cars, So let's talk about Drive
and what made you want to do the show Drive?

Speaker 20 (01:08:58):
Well, in Terribo, I pay six thousand for it at
the time, and ever since then I've just been into
cars and collecting and ended up doing car shows. So
when this opportunity to community family, father and son, you know,
you don't really get to see father and son bonds
from from our community, that's positive.

Speaker 15 (01:09:17):
So I thought that that was a plus.

Speaker 20 (01:09:19):
And we wanted to educate people and not just show
blame cars, not just putting million dollar cars up, but
really showing the everyday person how they make magic as well,
you know, and which I think is phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
I like working with each other.

Speaker 17 (01:09:35):
Oh, my little brother, we have so much fun, Like
it's not even funny, Like we don't really have we
have perfect synthesis.

Speaker 15 (01:09:44):
We don't. We don't have to work with each other
very very well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I was gonna ask you know what, you guys went
to different markets, so you see in the car culture
in New York, you know, the call coach in Houston,
in California?

Speaker 27 (01:09:57):
What was your favorite car culture and why I love Japan.
Japan is definitely one of my favorite episodes because the architecture,
the culture there, they're like five hundred years ahead of us, right,
so every single every single thing that they do there,
they're so masterful with it. So when we want to

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go see the drifting and we want to actually go
drift with the Tokyo drifters of the Drift Champion, we
just saw how crazy like skillful they were for us
to put our lives in their hands and for them
to actually, you know, be able to handle that, You
know they were good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
When you say five hundred years into the future, Like
what do you mean.

Speaker 17 (01:10:38):
Like you know, America is a young confident like Asia
is five is way older and culturally and.

Speaker 10 (01:10:46):
I'm talking about the technology that's historically Oh no, no,
we're not flying.

Speaker 17 (01:10:50):
But but and in terms of them being masterful every
single thing they do, whether it's making a drink, cutting designing,
doing anime, comic book sketches, architecture, painting clothes. We go
there for inspiration. So being over there to go into
the depth of their culture was like that was definitely

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one of my favorite episodes.

Speaker 15 (01:11:13):
And you'll see why.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
All right, Well, Saluthor Swiss Beats in his Son Nazia.
And when we come back, we got more with Swiss
beats and our moves to breakfast O good morning, and
everybody's J and D Charlamagne the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
We are the breakfast Club. Now last week we got
a chance to chop it up with Swiss Beats in
His Son Nazia, oh man. And it was so good
because it was for our annual Change for Change.

Speaker 10 (01:11:32):
I got as Luca Amazon all throughout our Change for
Change because they were taking care of people's holiday wishless
as well as a nice event we did here last
week where they gave everybody who came to the event
a thousand dollars. So thank you to Amazon.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
All right, let's jump into our interview with Swiss Beats
in the Sun, Naicia.

Speaker 10 (01:11:47):
Who's your favorite road trip partner Swiss Nazia or DMX
because we always hear about the stories and you were
next in the car.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
That's legendary.

Speaker 15 (01:11:55):
That's a hard one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I got this.

Speaker 20 (01:11:57):
I love you, but I gotta say X too, for
a lot, for a lot of for a lot of
other reasons. You know, X was X was very animated.
Na's is laid back. He get animated when he went
to but I would get to hear stories from from
X that I never heard before when we're in the car,
Like the last car ride we drove. I went to

(01:12:19):
go visit him in like upstate New York, and he
wanted to go see Scarface in Boston. And he's like, Yo,
you know you know scar Faces in Boston tonight. He said, Okay,
shout up to Scarface. You know, I just drove like
two hours to go where he was at in the
first place. And this one, I had the seven twenty

(01:12:39):
mcclan so's a sports car and I used to always
bring the cars up so extra drive them around when
I when I visit him, and he's like hinting again,
I want to go see Scarface.

Speaker 15 (01:12:50):
I'm like, you want to go? You want me to
take you to see Scarface.

Speaker 20 (01:12:54):
I just drove two hours and he never really asked
me for things like that, so I can tell that
it was something that he really.

Speaker 15 (01:12:59):
Wanted to do.

Speaker 20 (01:13:01):
So we get in there, get in the car. We
go five hours to see Scarface, and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
The whole five I was in a little ass card.
It wasn't escalate. It's a little call like his arm
and their arms were touching.

Speaker 20 (01:13:13):
The whole rock my ass still heard from that drive.
And so we're driving and he's playing old school music,
old school music, and then he stops the music and
he asked me to record him, which he never does,
and he just like gave me his life story, like.

Speaker 15 (01:13:31):
Like I never heard it before.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (01:13:33):
And that was our last drive, but it was it
was epic.

Speaker 20 (01:13:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
You still have you? Of course? You have?

Speaker 15 (01:13:39):
Absolutely?

Speaker 20 (01:13:40):
Yes, yes, Wow and uh And we went on stage
and he rocked with Scarface, Wow all night.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Is it time for a DMX documentary, a true DMX.

Speaker 20 (01:13:51):
Movie, It's always time to witness greatness, But I feel
that it just has to be me personally. I just
wanted to be shot and directed like to the standard
of what he gave us. He gave us timeless moments,
he gave us, you know, his his life literally and

(01:14:12):
so I feel that, you know, a lot of people
have been pitching, uh documentaries and movies, but they don't
you know, it needs to have the right care. And
I wanted to be the biggest thing.

Speaker 15 (01:14:22):
In the world for him.

Speaker 10 (01:14:24):
Now, did you learn anything about your dad that you
didn't know? No, after working on this series, taking these
long road trips.

Speaker 17 (01:14:30):
A thousand percent, I learned that he he doesn't go
as fast as you think. He would happen to look fast,
very fast cars like he actually is pretty reserved now.
And uh, he just he really picks what he wants
to do. He picks how fast he wants to go,
He picks if he wants to get in the monster truck,

(01:14:51):
he picks if he wants to go drifting like he
has that Uh, that situational discernment.

Speaker 15 (01:14:57):
Now, I feel like that's pretty much discernment. I liked that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
I was going to ask you, with all the artists
that your dad worked with, who did you enjoy listening
to and talking to the most?

Speaker 17 (01:15:08):
I have too, because I haven't really, I haven't sat
down with the first one. I'm about to tell you,
like on a personal personal note, but Lil Wayne is
definitely one of my favorite artists ever and not my
dad has collab with as well.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Hurrah for real.

Speaker 15 (01:15:26):
Yeah, I remember being a.

Speaker 17 (01:15:27):
Kid and like his energy just lit up the room
and he he has such a great spirit I can
feel and I remember that feeling till this day.

Speaker 14 (01:15:36):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
You know you said for real now that this is
your dad's pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Now, Bust a couple of probably about a month ago,
said he's doing an album where Pharrell, Timberland and Swiss
Beats are the EPs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
How how does that happen?

Speaker 14 (01:15:53):
You know?

Speaker 20 (01:15:53):
Buster is somebody that don't back down easy. You can't
tell him no. And he signed us up for his
project and we just said, okay, let's do it. And
he came, He's like, you know you tam for real,
y'all my producers for the project. I'm like, okay, no,
the executive producers okay. And then I don't know, like

(01:16:17):
somehow we actually all got into a space which is
a photo of us on this boat, and I'm sitting here,
I'm like, yo, he really manifested this, Like we didn't
even plan to be on that boat at that time.

Speaker 15 (01:16:27):
It's not like, Okay, let's have an executive producer boat ride.
Like we just all ended up.

Speaker 20 (01:16:33):
Sitting there and I'm looking around like, okay, I heard
the universe. Okay, I guess we're doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Is it done? Is it almost done?

Speaker 20 (01:16:40):
It's done and it needs to come out now, you know,
because buster a hole onto the album for thirty Summer ever.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Right, but this might be a stupid question.

Speaker 10 (01:16:51):
He's named after nods, right, yeah, okay, yeah, it's nods,
like if God bothers.

Speaker 15 (01:16:55):
Just no, my mom's from Queen. His mother's love Nods.
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:17:00):
I was kind of conflicted in a way, but yeah, man,
but then I was like, I love nas too.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
I was salute the Swiss beats in his son Nasia,
and when we come back, we got more with Swiss beats.
It don't move us to breakfast Lug, good Morning, the
breakfast club. So kicking it with Swiss beats in Nacia Charlaman.

Speaker 10 (01:17:25):
You know, everybody always ask about versus man, what's up
with versus big things?

Speaker 15 (01:17:29):
Big things?

Speaker 20 (01:17:30):
You know, I'm happy that me and Tim was able
to take the time to understand our company because when
we launched it, it was during the pandemic things that
is happening, Like we never got no rest, you know,
like we was helping everybody else feel better and have
something to go to other than the negative news and

(01:17:51):
energy at that time. But we didn't take time for
ourself and so things went fast and we owned the
We own the company one hundred percent, which is super fresh,
and we got some big announcements coming.

Speaker 10 (01:18:04):
Yeah, I wonder if it's something I mean, I know
it's something artists still want to do. But you know,
during the pandemic, it was more pure because it was
just about the music. Now it's so much business and
red tapesolve.

Speaker 20 (01:18:15):
Yeah, and naturally when something gets big like that, that happens.
But you know versus and I tell people because I
had people on the shows, and when you bring up verses,
they're like, oh, I don't want to. And it's not
a battle show. It's a show where two artists celebrating
each other with their hits. Now, if you want to

(01:18:37):
make it a battle, I'm not going to say, hey,
don't talk tough to this guy. Right you you make
it a battle, or you can make it a love fest,
you know, like There's been many verses that it has
been smooth and loving, but with the hip hop is
just the ego.

Speaker 15 (01:18:53):
You know how it's competitive.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Bro, you put the locks and Dipset on stage.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, and everybody, I think a
lot of people or a dipset was.

Speaker 20 (01:19:00):
Going to take that one away. I know many people
thought that the dip set was going to and then
it was Jada. Yeah, you got the right hat on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
What was the biggest verses for you as far as culture?
Would that be the biggest?

Speaker 15 (01:19:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:19:16):
That and Gucci Man and Jez absolutely, yeah, those two
because that's what verses do it. You know, it took
two guys that really went to war to the point
of no return, and Versus gave them an outlet to,
you know, send a different message out there to the
youth today because they're not who they.

Speaker 15 (01:19:37):
Was fifteen years ago.

Speaker 20 (01:19:38):
But there's no outlets that can let you as a man,
as a you know, stand on how you feel and
move past from it. And this is why you know,
I couldn't if I stopped Versus today, I would be
fine because we won already.

Speaker 15 (01:19:52):
Like it did what it needed to do, but it
needs to.

Speaker 20 (01:19:56):
Do more because versus, the people's streams go up seven
hundred percent. People sell out guitars. It's so we call
it the versus effect. And the artists get so much
from versus. And so all the artists out there who's
listening to this, please stop trying to charge us more
than you ever made on your show. You know, show

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us the love that you showed those other outlets that
you don't get nothing from it, you know. And so
that was the thing that was like the hardest thing
was hearing the artists trying to overdo it for no reason.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
I got to ask because there there's been a lot
of rumors about some verses that would well hopefully will
still get done.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
You just say yes and no.

Speaker 15 (01:20:37):
I don't want to say yes and no.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Didiot Jermaine dupri Is that gonna happen? He just said
he don't want to see you. I know, but I'm
asking anyway.

Speaker 20 (01:20:43):
But the reason see, because I'm not scared to answer
the question. By the way, But what happens is this
clip right here gets played back to me and it's like, yo,
I didn't really want to confirm that yet, bye blah blah,
and I have to deal with this offline and say, Yo,
they asked me a question. Y'all went out there and
did a promo run, and y'all went out there and said,

(01:21:03):
y'all wanted to do it. All I did was confirm
what I said. Okay, yeah, but that was a different time.
But this is the Versus documentary has been. We've been
shooting a documentary since the beginning the verses, so lean
away is the directing. Y'all going to see all of
this when I'm telling you, I take it.

Speaker 17 (01:21:22):
You can see Drive premiering on Hulu. Driver Swiss Beats
tune all the way in. All six episodes will be
dropping simultaneously, so you could binge watch the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
This is absolutely but we appreciate you guys for joining us.
Take some noise for Swiss Beats and not see it.

Speaker 15 (01:21:41):
I've never seen the audience like this is amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Nah. They do these nice little events from time to time.
It's not little at.

Speaker 15 (01:21:48):
All, but I heard that doing some big things today.
This is cool.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Yeah, So this has a change for change when we
give back to people, and what people did this time
is they put a wish list of things that they
needed for the holidays. And shout to Amazon. They provided
their wish list for a lot of people. So like,
even today, since you guys are here, I think we
should do something special.

Speaker 15 (01:22:06):
Charlemagne, what you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Think, I'm all for it. Now for everybody that that's
what we're here for.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Yeah, Now for everybody who put in the wish list
and came in and put your hands up one time
and then you bought a person with you, right right,
So for you guys today, we're gonna give everybody that
signed up one thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
That's right, Hold up where you signed up?

Speaker 15 (01:22:28):
Back? Where do we do that?

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
But not only that, people that you came, well, we're
gonna give a thousand dollars too, that's right. Hey, hey see,
one of y'all didn't want to come. He one of
y'all had to get begged to come here. Now, look,
this is the big money show. This is the big
money show. So we appreciate you guys for coming.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
We got a lot of cool stuff for you as well,
and just say thank you guys for rocking with us
and riding with us.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
And thank you to Amazon man, thank you for Amazon.
We really appreciate you guys. We couldn't do none of
this without Amazon. But thank you very much so, ladies
and gentlemen, NA says Swiss Beats. We are the Breakfast Club.
Once again.

Speaker 10 (01:23:11):
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