Today on the show Loren gives her thoughts on our forever First Lady, Michelle Obama comments about her daughters creating their own careers. She also gives the latest details on the Diddy trial.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Gewiss.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
You don't know if you don't lie about that, right,
Lauren came in.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, guys, it's Laura Rosa and this is the latest
with Lauren L.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Rosa.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Now I'm your host, Laura L. Rosa, and we are
here for another episode Low Riders. I appreciate you guys
for joining me. Welcome on back, Welcome on back. If
you cannot tell already, I am energized today. Y'all know
we do the behind the scenes of the grind, behind
the scenes of the you know, the grind. Little checking
that we do here, not little, because everything is big
this season.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I am feeling rejuvenated.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I am excited to be here with you guys for
another episode. It isn't excited for the place that I'm
in in my life, good, bad, ugly and indifferent. And
the reason why I say this is because I think
this week, in these last couple weeks for me have
been I've been learning in real time how to balance
like schedule, and I think when people talk about that
(01:02):
and the skill to be able to plan and schedule,
they don't give it up for the girls who know
how to do it enough, okay, because I religiously am
not the planner of the friend group in the family,
even though you know, oldest daughters in the family somehow
become the family manager.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
The long term planning and things of that nature are
not my specialty.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm really well at executing, almost kind of in CRISI
or crisis like, last minute on the spot, making decisions
boom boom boom, let's get it, finding a solution. But
what I'm learning so much more about when juggling so
many different things now is the beauty and the necessity
of long term planning and scheduling and you know, just
(01:41):
organization and having a time and place for preparation and
you know your thoughts and you know, a time for
work where you're all the way locked in, a time
for play, a time to say no to play, a
time to say no to work, those type of things.
So grateful to be experiencing that at this point in
my journey, because I feel like, you know, it's I'm
you know, I'm really really spiritual. And I've been telling
(02:04):
myself as I've been praying about some of the different
you know, walls and different things I've been coming up
against I've been asking God to guide me through them,
but I've also been saying to God, Okay, God, I
hear you. Okay, God, I hear you. Okay, God, I
hear you. Because this is not my first time having
like an inner conversation with myself about proper planning, preparation,
(02:26):
taking the time, not burning yourself out, prioritizing what's important
versus what's not. But I think in real time, I'm
having to make those decisions or else. And yesterday I
literally said that prayer to God, like God, I hear you.
I understand what you're saying to me, and I'm gonna
do it. And I did a lot of things yesterday.
(02:47):
I prepped for you know, my segment the day before
for the Breakfast Club, which I normally had done, but
I've been so exhausted just doing this trial thing. Now
we have the podcast and no excuses, more so just
growth thing, growing into places and spaces where I can't
operate like the woman I was before I got to
those places has been my testimony lately. So you know, today,
(03:13):
as I arrived here on the podcast, that's where I'm
at and that's how I'm feeling and I know a
lot of you guys can probably you know, everybody goes
through different changes in their life, and different elements and
different elevation points of your life require different version of you.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So that is where I'm at today currently.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But let's get on into the latest, because if we're
talking about elevation and you know, growth, we got to
talk about one of the most historically famous families in
our nation's history, the Obama family, because Michelle Obama has
recently come out and made her comments for the first
time about her daughter, Malia Malia Obama dropping her last name.
(03:55):
So there have been reports that came out that Malia
Obama used her middle name in so Mala as her
last name for credits of a short film that she
wrote and directed.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
The short film was called The Heart.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
This short film aired at the Sundance Festival in twenty
twenty four, and when the news broke, people were like,
oh wait, hold on, But I instantly understood what that was.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I knew. I'm like, Okay, these are girls who've been under.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
This microscope because you know, their dad was the first
black president of the United States and their mother as
the first lady of the United States.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Is some amazing things for a nation.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But she was highly criticized as a black woman in
the White House, so of course their lives have been
not without scrutiny as well. And these are young girls
growing into women in front of our eyes, finding their
own way, and I'm sure wanting to make their own way.
So I had already kind of put two and two
together and knew that that's probably what it was.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
But Michelle Obama came and cleared it up for us.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And here is what she said on an episode of
a podcast called Civiling Rivalry.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Let's say, listen, our daughters are twenty five and twenty three.
They are young adult women, but they definitely went through
a period in their teen years where it was the
push away, you know, we want to you know. I
mean they're still doing that as and you guys know,
this is the children of parents who are known. You know,
(05:22):
you're trying to distinguish yourself. I mean, it is very
important for my kids to feel like they've earned what
they are getting in the world. And they don't want
people to assume that they don't work hard, that they're
just naturally just handed things. They're very sensitive to that
they want to be their own people. You know Malia
(05:44):
who started in film, I mean her first project, she
took off her last name, and we were like, they're
still going to know it's you, Malina, you know, but
we respected the fact that, you know, she's trying to
make her way. But now as they're older, I think
they are embracing our parenting principles.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
They you know, they they have a clearer.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Understanding of why we did a lot of what we did.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I love that because number one, I think that there's
always this conversation amongst black families and about black families
on nepotism. And I love the black nepotism conversation because
I feel like whenever we get to have that black
(06:34):
nepotism conversation, we get to argue about why if we
worked hard and we earn the money, our kids get
to get the silver spoon too. But I also think
that for me playing Devil's Advocate, I think that it
would have been a beautiful thing to see Malia Obama
put Malia Obama in the credits. So I think it
would have been a beautiful thing, you know, for her
to say, Hey, my dad is Barack Obama, my mom
(06:56):
is Michelle Obama.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I want to get in the film Dad, Mom, who
can you call?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Because I think that that is what the generational wealth
of you know, being people, not even you know, black
people when I'm speaking to that because I'm a black woman,
but people in general, red, white, or blue. The whole
point in you know, breaking down these barriers and breaking
glass ceilings and walking through these doors and sitting at
(07:20):
these tables or building your own table is so that
a person behind you doesn't have to fight or break
through or build or carry the weight of doing so
many of these different things in the way that you
have to. And I you know, for me, when it
comes to black children, and especially in like creative spaces
and you know, artsy spaces, it's always about like, I
(07:43):
want to claim my own right because you know, your
art is your art, and that's what you're trying to protect.
But I love when I see what Lebron and you know,
Brownie Junior are doing. It's like I'm here, I'm talented,
I deserve to be here, and I could have worked
to get here, and I did work to be here.
But at the same time, my dad is Lebron James.
(08:04):
But I love that Michelle Obama and Barack Obama give
their daughters, from what it seems like on the outside
looking in that space, to be their own people, to
you know, wedge their own you know, sword in society.
But they're honest with them. They're like, look, no matter
what you call yourself, Malia, they're gonna know it's you, baby,
like we are who we are at this point. But
they still allow her to go through life and understand
(08:25):
that and experience that on their own. Something about that
Obama family that just makes me, you know, like I
want to strive to have that, that regalness and that love,
and its still that in my children with my husband.
I look at the Obamas as that. And Michelle Obama
just announced her book that will go and sell November fourth,
(08:47):
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It is called The Look.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
She says, during our family's time in the White House,
the way I looked was constantly being discussed and dissected,
what I wore, how my hair was styled. For a
while now, I've been wanting to reclaim more of that story,
to share it in my own way. I'm thankful to
be at a stage in life where I feel comfortable
expressing myself freely wearing what I love and doing what
I love feels true to me, and I'm excited to
(09:10):
share some of what I've learned along the way. My
new book, The Look, comes out on November fourth. It's
a reflection on my lifelong journey with fashion, hair and beauty.
I am really excited about that as a woman, a
Black woman in a very public space that you know,
I've been criticized for my outfits, whether they're too seductive
or not in my personal time or you know, my
(09:32):
hair on camera, my makeup on camera is you know,
it's the small things, and I think all women get it,
but I do think, you know, speaking from the perspective
of a black woman, just like a lot of other things,
there is the feeling of I can't not get that right.
Hair has to be late, beauty has to be on point.
Outfits have to be very aware and cognizant of the
room that I'm walking into because I might not get
(09:54):
another chance to show up in this way. So excited
to hear you know what she's teaching this book because
Michelle Obama got man what I deal with a little
bit on social media, and nothing compare with to our
first Lady Michelle Obama and what she experienced while being
in the White House.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So definitely will be on the lookout for that.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
But I want to also then pivot in the latest
because you guys know that we've been keeping you up
to date on the trial here in New York where
Sean COLMBS Diddy is on trial for a plethora of things.
There's counts of trafficking, you know, all of these things,
and I've been going to the courthouse daily, and now
I've decided that I will go, of course, and keep
(10:35):
up with what is going on in the court whether
I'm there or not through transcripts and court reporters. But
I do want to make sure that the days when
you guys see me there because I do have dual
triple rolls, like I'm here on the podcast with y'all,
the lowwriters, we you know, at the.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Breakfast club, we in court. It's a lot to figure out.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Prioritizing, I told y'all at the beginning of this has
been a thing that I've had to learn because of
the voice in the you know, the different areas that
all this coverage has been able to, you know, place
me and I'm so grateful for that, but I want
to make sure it's effective. So not every day am
I at the actual court. But y'all gonna still hear me.
Y'all gonna hear me though. So yesterday in court, there
(11:18):
was a woman who testified. Her name is Brianna Banna Bangalan.
Now this woman, Cassie had spoke a lot about her
and her testimony and talked about, you know, they were
a really close friend. She was actually a designer as well,
a fashion designer, friends with Cassie, and she experienced a
(11:39):
very allegedly a very violent and physical interaction with Ditty,
you know, while Cassie was present that Cassie spoke to
and now she is on the stand telling her story
herself this week. So she alleged that Diddy held her
on a seventeen story balcony back in September of twenty sixteen,
and she testified that Diddy threw her on the balcony furniture.
(12:03):
She ales that she was left with a bruise on
the back of her leg as well as neck and
back pain, and that Diddy said to her allegedly in
the midst of all of this, in the midst of
all this rage that he's a devil and he could
kill her. And that was on a whole different occasion.
So you have the back balcony incident, then you have
the whole the devil I could kill you, that whole incident,
(12:25):
and what what she is speaking to is an incident
where Diddy basically came into the into Cassie's home.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And the way that uh, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
The prosecutors or the government set it up when talking
about this woman and that experience was that, uh Diddy
was at a point allegedly where he was trying to
keep Cassie from drug abuse and different friend groups and
you know, she was just she was she was spiraling.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The government of alleged that they were both using drugs
and they were both doing these different things, but that
actually Cassie had begun to utilize drugs and do different
things a bit too much and he was trying to
almost like safeguard her. Cassie and Miss Brianna tell a
whole different story.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
They talk about this, and this was day sixteen of
the trial.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
They talk about this as you know, him coming in,
you know, on alleged drunken rage and just being upset
about things that were not in Brianna's control whatsoever. And
she also talked about not even wanting to meet Diddy
at one point when Cassie was trying to introduce them,
because she didn't like some of the things that she
had been, you know, just seeing from kind of like
(13:41):
a third I view. But she did Bona is what
they call her, Cassie's friend that took the stand. She
did talk about them, you know, being on drugs that
you know, within that incident, her and Cassie, she alleged,
and the Diddy's defense team came in and tried to
you know, poke holes in her story because she couldn't remembering.
She couldn't remember where she told the government that the
(14:03):
incident took place at. She couldn't remember what drugs she
told them that she was on. But two, I mean,
if you're the government, it's like, okay, of course she's
telling you that they were on drugs. She just can't
remember all of the drugs. And it wasn't maybe as
much as you guys are depicting, right. Cassie came prior
to this and had a very in depth conversation about
(14:24):
how extensive her drug use was. Having to go to
rehab doing drugs with her friend Bonna, who we are
now hearing from. Cassie herself, said there's a whole year
she talked about it. She said, you know, twenty seventeen
is basically a blur because of the drugs that she
was doing. So I don't know how effective this is
on a jury to you know, for the prosecutors to
(14:47):
present this information that way where it's like, Okay, he's
in this rage, he comes in, a person is physically harmed,
the scared. There's a whole knife fight that breaks out
allegedly at some point between Diddy and Cassie as well,
and this was like a normal thing that they, you know,
allegedly used to just do. Because this is you know,
allegedly Cassie fighting back against the rage and just how
(15:07):
did he would handle things? But there's all these things right,
Like I'm saying all that briefly, and if you guys
can't tell by now, I feel like yesterday's testimony testimony,
it was there, but it's not that something I'm gonna
spend a lot of time on.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
There are all these big salacious things right.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
There's knives, there's the devil, there starts to you know,
allegedly does to kill someone. And then you also have
to enter the fact that you know, on all parties involved,
there was conversation prior to this woman taking a stand
of all of this drug use, which was confirmed by multa,
including Cassie herself, which was confirmed by multiple people.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So it's like, how do you, as Diddy's.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Team, effectively make a juror think that this witness is
not credible?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
How when you've heard.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Over and over and over prior to her getting to
understand a lot of people don't remember some things because
of the drugs that they were doing or the trauma
that they experienced. That's been my biggest question here, and
I think that's why the government hasn't rested their case
yet is because I think they want to. I mean,
they beyond the shadow of a doubt, right is their goal.
(16:16):
But they're trying to feel in color in every little
blank inch that they can because that is what they
have to do or this might not be a win
for them. Because if I'm a durer, I'm thinking about
it like, Okay, yet that happened, right, Like Diddy's team
is alleging this woman that he came into this rage
(16:36):
and came at you know, this bondom woman the way
he did because he was protecting Cassie from drug use
and these things. But at the same time, everything else
that we've seen physically from you know, Diddy that has
been alleged and you know, just the power, the influence,
the anger, all of these things has been so big,
and we've heard it from so many different angles.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
How do you fight against that? I keep saying it.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I really keep saying it because I think that that's when,
you know, we'll kind of get answers to a lot
of these questions or not and really know where the
you know, the verdict in this case is going to go.
But I'm really interested to see what Diddy's defense is
going to be to all these things. And we've seen
some of it, right, like the angling of you know,
how they position their questioning when they cross examine the
(17:23):
witnesses and things of that nature.
Gewiss.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
You don't know if you don't lie about that, right,
Lauren came in.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, guys, it's Laura Rosa and this is the latest
with Lauren L.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Rosa.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Now I'm your host, Laura L. Rosa, and we are
here for another episode Low Riders. I appreciate you guys
for joining me. Welcome on back, Welcome on back. If
you cannot tell already, I am energized today. Y'all know
we do the behind the scenes of the grind, behind
the scenes of the you know, the grind. Little checking
that we do here, not little, because everything is big
this season.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I am feeling rejuvenated.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I am excited to be here with you guys for
another episode. It isn't excited for the place that I'm
in in my life, good, bad, ugly and indifferent. And
the reason why I say this is because I think
this week, in these last couple weeks for me have
been I've been learning in real time how to balance
like schedule, and I think when people talk about that
(01:02):
and the skill to be able to plan and schedule,
they don't give it up for the girls who know
how to do it enough, okay, because I religiously am
not the planner of the friend group in the family,
even though you know, oldest daughters in the family somehow
become the family manager.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
The long term planning and things of that nature are
not my specialty.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm really well at executing, almost kind of in CRISI
or crisis like, last minute on the spot, making decisions
boom boom boom, let's get it, finding a solution. But
what I'm learning so much more about when juggling so
many different things now is the beauty and the necessity
of long term planning and scheduling and you know, just
(01:41):
organization and having a time and place for preparation and
you know your thoughts and you know, a time for
work where you're all the way locked in, a time
for play, a time to say no to play, a
time to say no to work, those type of things.
So grateful to be experiencing that at this point in
my journey, because I feel like, you know, it's I'm
you know, I'm really really spiritual. And I've been telling
(02:04):
myself as I've been praying about some of the different
you know, walls and different things I've been coming up
against I've been asking God to guide me through them,
but I've also been saying to God, Okay, God, I
hear you. Okay, God, I hear you. Okay, God, I
hear you. Because this is not my first time having
like an inner conversation with myself about proper planning, preparation,
(02:26):
taking the time, not burning yourself out, prioritizing what's important
versus what's not. But I think in real time, I'm
having to make those decisions or else. And yesterday I
literally said that prayer to God, like God, I hear you.
I understand what you're saying to me, and I'm gonna
do it. And I did a lot of things yesterday.
(02:47):
I prepped for you know, my segment the day before
for the Breakfast Club, which I normally had done, but
I've been so exhausted just doing this trial thing. Now
we have the podcast and no excuses, more so just
growth thing, growing into places and spaces where I can't
operate like the woman I was before I got to
those places has been my testimony lately. So you know, today,
(03:13):
as I arrived here on the podcast, that's where I'm
at and that's how I'm feeling and I know a
lot of you guys can probably you know, everybody goes
through different changes in their life, and different elements and
different elevation points of your life require different version of you.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So that is where I'm at today currently.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But let's get on into the latest, because if we're
talking about elevation and you know, growth, we got to
talk about one of the most historically famous families in
our nation's history, the Obama family, because Michelle Obama has
recently come out and made her comments for the first
time about her daughter, Malia Malia Obama dropping her last name.
(03:55):
So there have been reports that came out that Malia
Obama used her middle name in so Mala as her
last name for credits of a short film that she
wrote and directed.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
The short film was called The Heart.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
This short film aired at the Sundance Festival in twenty
twenty four, and when the news broke, people were like,
oh wait, hold on, But I instantly understood what that was.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I knew. I'm like, Okay, these are girls who've been under.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
This microscope because you know, their dad was the first
black president of the United States and their mother as
the first lady of the United States.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Is some amazing things for a nation.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But she was highly criticized as a black woman in
the White House, so of course their lives have been
not without scrutiny as well. And these are young girls
growing into women in front of our eyes, finding their
own way, and I'm sure wanting to make their own way.
So I had already kind of put two and two
together and knew that that's probably what it was.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
But Michelle Obama came and cleared it up for us.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And here is what she said on an episode of
a podcast called Civiling Rivalry.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Let's say, listen, our daughters are twenty five and twenty three.
They are young adult women, but they definitely went through
a period in their teen years where it was the
push away, you know, we want to you know. I
mean they're still doing that as and you guys know,
this is the children of parents who are known. You know,
(05:22):
you're trying to distinguish yourself. I mean, it is very
important for my kids to feel like they've earned what
they are getting in the world. And they don't want
people to assume that they don't work hard, that they're
just naturally just handed things. They're very sensitive to that
they want to be their own people. You know Malia
(05:44):
who started in film, I mean her first project, she
took off her last name, and we were like, they're
still going to know it's you, Malina, you know, but
we respected the fact that, you know, she's trying to
make her way. But now as they're older, I think
they are embracing our parenting principles.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
They you know, they they have a clearer.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Understanding of why we did a lot of what we did.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I love that because number one, I think that there's
always this conversation amongst black families and about black families
on nepotism. And I love the black nepotism conversation because
I feel like whenever we get to have that black
(06:34):
nepotism conversation, we get to argue about why if we
worked hard and we earn the money, our kids get
to get the silver spoon too. But I also think
that for me playing Devil's Advocate, I think that it
would have been a beautiful thing to see Malia Obama
put Malia Obama in the credits. So I think it
would have been a beautiful thing, you know, for her
to say, Hey, my dad is Barack Obama, my mom
(06:56):
is Michelle Obama.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I want to get in the film Dad, Mom, who
can you call?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Because I think that that is what the generational wealth
of you know, being people, not even you know, black
people when I'm speaking to that because I'm a black woman,
but people in general, red, white, or blue. The whole
point in you know, breaking down these barriers and breaking
glass ceilings and walking through these doors and sitting at
(07:20):
these tables or building your own table is so that
a person behind you doesn't have to fight or break
through or build or carry the weight of doing so
many of these different things in the way that you
have to. And I you know, for me, when it
comes to black children, and especially in like creative spaces
and you know, artsy spaces, it's always about like, I
(07:43):
want to claim my own right because you know, your
art is your art, and that's what you're trying to protect.
But I love when I see what Lebron and you know,
Brownie Junior are doing. It's like I'm here, I'm talented,
I deserve to be here, and I could have worked
to get here, and I did work to be here.
But at the same time, my dad is Lebron James.
(08:04):
But I love that Michelle Obama and Barack Obama give
their daughters, from what it seems like on the outside
looking in that space, to be their own people, to
you know, wedge their own you know, sword in society.
But they're honest with them. They're like, look, no matter
what you call yourself, Malia, they're gonna know it's you, baby,
like we are who we are at this point. But
they still allow her to go through life and understand
(08:25):
that and experience that on their own. Something about that
Obama family that just makes me, you know, like I
want to strive to have that, that regalness and that love,
and its still that in my children with my husband.
I look at the Obamas as that. And Michelle Obama
just announced her book that will go and sell November fourth,
(08:47):
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It is called The Look.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
She says, during our family's time in the White House,
the way I looked was constantly being discussed and dissected,
what I wore, how my hair was styled. For a
while now, I've been wanting to reclaim more of that story,
to share it in my own way. I'm thankful to
be at a stage in life where I feel comfortable
expressing myself freely wearing what I love and doing what
I love feels true to me, and I'm excited to
(09:10):
share some of what I've learned along the way. My
new book, The Look, comes out on November fourth. It's
a reflection on my lifelong journey with fashion, hair and beauty.
I am really excited about that as a woman, a
Black woman in a very public space that you know,
I've been criticized for my outfits, whether they're too seductive
or not in my personal time or you know, my
(09:32):
hair on camera, my makeup on camera is you know,
it's the small things, and I think all women get it,
but I do think, you know, speaking from the perspective
of a black woman, just like a lot of other things,
there is the feeling of I can't not get that right.
Hair has to be late, beauty has to be on point.
Outfits have to be very aware and cognizant of the
room that I'm walking into because I might not get
(09:54):
another chance to show up in this way. So excited
to hear you know what she's teaching this book because
Michelle Obama got man what I deal with a little
bit on social media, and nothing compare with to our
first Lady Michelle Obama and what she experienced while being
in the White House.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So definitely will be on the lookout for that.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
But I want to also then pivot in the latest
because you guys know that we've been keeping you up
to date on the trial here in New York where
Sean COLMBS Diddy is on trial for a plethora of things.
There's counts of trafficking, you know, all of these things,
and I've been going to the courthouse daily, and now
I've decided that I will go, of course, and keep
(10:35):
up with what is going on in the court whether
I'm there or not through transcripts and court reporters. But
I do want to make sure that the days when
you guys see me there because I do have dual
triple rolls, like I'm here on the podcast with y'all,
the lowwriters, we you know, at the.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Breakfast club, we in court. It's a lot to figure out.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Prioritizing, I told y'all at the beginning of this has
been a thing that I've had to learn because of
the voice in the you know, the different areas that
all this coverage has been able to, you know, place
me and I'm so grateful for that, but I want
to make sure it's effective. So not every day am
I at the actual court. But y'all gonna still hear me.
Y'all gonna hear me though. So yesterday in court, there
(11:18):
was a woman who testified. Her name is Brianna Banna Bangalan.
Now this woman, Cassie had spoke a lot about her
and her testimony and talked about, you know, they were
a really close friend. She was actually a designer as well,
a fashion designer, friends with Cassie, and she experienced a
(11:39):
very allegedly a very violent and physical interaction with Ditty,
you know, while Cassie was present that Cassie spoke to
and now she is on the stand telling her story
herself this week. So she alleged that Diddy held her
on a seventeen story balcony back in September of twenty sixteen,
and she testified that Diddy threw her on the balcony furniture.
(12:03):
She ales that she was left with a bruise on
the back of her leg as well as neck and
back pain, and that Diddy said to her allegedly in
the midst of all of this, in the midst of
all this rage that he's a devil and he could
kill her. And that was on a whole different occasion.
So you have the back balcony incident, then you have
the whole the devil I could kill you, that whole incident,
(12:25):
and what what she is speaking to is an incident
where Diddy basically came into the into Cassie's home.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And the way that uh, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
The prosecutors or the government set it up when talking
about this woman and that experience was that, uh Diddy
was at a point allegedly where he was trying to
keep Cassie from drug abuse and different friend groups and
you know, she was just she was she was spiraling.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The government of alleged that they were both using drugs
and they were both doing these different things, but that
actually Cassie had begun to utilize drugs and do different
things a bit too much and he was trying to
almost like safeguard her. Cassie and Miss Brianna tell a
whole different story.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
They talk about this, and this was day sixteen of
the trial.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
They talk about this as you know, him coming in,
you know, on alleged drunken rage and just being upset
about things that were not in Brianna's control whatsoever. And
she also talked about not even wanting to meet Diddy
at one point when Cassie was trying to introduce them,
because she didn't like some of the things that she
had been, you know, just seeing from kind of like
(13:41):
a third I view. But she did Bona is what
they call her, Cassie's friend that took the stand. She
did talk about them, you know, being on drugs that
you know, within that incident, her and Cassie, she alleged,
and the Diddy's defense team came in and tried to
you know, poke holes in her story because she couldn't remembering.
She couldn't remember where she told the government that the
(14:03):
incident took place at. She couldn't remember what drugs she
told them that she was on. But two, I mean,
if you're the government, it's like, okay, of course she's
telling you that they were on drugs. She just can't
remember all of the drugs. And it wasn't maybe as
much as you guys are depicting, right. Cassie came prior
to this and had a very in depth conversation about
(14:24):
how extensive her drug use was. Having to go to
rehab doing drugs with her friend Bonna, who we are
now hearing from. Cassie herself, said there's a whole year
she talked about it. She said, you know, twenty seventeen
is basically a blur because of the drugs that she
was doing. So I don't know how effective this is
on a jury to you know, for the prosecutors to
(14:47):
present this information that way where it's like, Okay, he's
in this rage, he comes in, a person is physically harmed,
the scared. There's a whole knife fight that breaks out
allegedly at some point between Diddy and Cassie as well,
and this was like a normal thing that they, you know,
allegedly used to just do. Because this is you know,
allegedly Cassie fighting back against the rage and just how
(15:07):
did he would handle things? But there's all these things right,
Like I'm saying all that briefly, and if you guys
can't tell by now, I feel like yesterday's testimony testimony,
it was there, but it's not that something I'm gonna
spend a lot of time on.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
There are all these big salacious things right.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
There's knives, there's the devil, there starts to you know,
allegedly does to kill someone. And then you also have
to enter the fact that you know, on all parties involved,
there was conversation prior to this woman taking a stand
of all of this drug use, which was confirmed by multa,
including Cassie herself, which was confirmed by multiple people.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So it's like, how do you, as Diddy's.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Team, effectively make a juror think that this witness is
not credible?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
How when you've heard.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Over and over and over prior to her getting to
understand a lot of people don't remember some things because
of the drugs that they were doing or the trauma
that they experienced. That's been my biggest question here, and
I think that's why the government hasn't rested their case
yet is because I think they want to. I mean,
they beyond the shadow of a doubt, right is their goal.
(16:16):
But they're trying to feel in color in every little
blank inch that they can because that is what they
have to do or this might not be a win
for them. Because if I'm a durer, I'm thinking about
it like, Okay, yet that happened, right, Like Diddy's team
is alleging this woman that he came into this rage
(16:36):
and came at you know, this bondom woman the way
he did because he was protecting Cassie from drug use
and these things. But at the same time, everything else
that we've seen physically from you know, Diddy that has
been alleged and you know, just the power, the influence,
the anger, all of these things has been so big,
and we've heard it from so many different angles.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
How do you fight against that? I keep saying it.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I really keep saying it because I think that that's when,
you know, we'll kind of get answers to a lot
of these questions or not and really know where the
you know, the verdict in this case is going to go.
But I'm really interested to see what Diddy's defense is
going to be to all these things. And we've seen
some of it, right, like the angling of you know,
how they position their questioning when they cross examine the
(17:23):
witnesses and things of that nature.
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