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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club Morning everybody, It's d J M Vy Angela Yee,
Charlamagne the guy.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
We are the Breakfast Club. You got special guests.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
In the building.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Columbia, South Carolina, Angie eight O three rhymes.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (00:18):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I can't complain. You know I've been blasted for a
long time in this business. You already know.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, people, I don't think people realize that Angie's one
of the Pine is a rap The Sequence your first.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Female go yeah, the first female group period to do
an original rap record, to do a rap record that
gone up the world. We had our neighborhood rappers, we
had our New York City rappers, but Sequence was the
world's rappers. And I think people get it twisted.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Funk funk it up with the song funk you up.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Until you got that mixed that with Bruno, I ain't
gonna go.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Didn't he stample it well?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
What he did did an interpolation of it up to
funk it up. We're gonna uptown funkus, funk you right
on up. We're gonna funk you the same thing. Were
getting paid no attention right now but guess what it's at. Yeah, well,
my attorney went in and we tried to do some stuff,
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and of course, because there's three group members and I've
been doing my thing for a minute, it kind of
pulled the scenes at who's who's with who and who's
down with And I just said, you know what, let
it rest because we're getting a lot of negative slack
because a lot of people that don't know about the
sequence or that song. We getting a lot of negative
flat because they're like, they don't sound nothing like it.
I'm like, they don't understand the interpolation process and how
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you know. The reason we were upset because Bruno admitted
that it was influenced by the sequence Wow, and he
did that on Instagram and somebody snatched it down.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Right, and people do interpolations so that they don't sample.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
So then they well, doctor d did keep your hands ringing?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
That was a direct rip from funk you up. They did.
I mean, we wrote the song, we wrote the melody,
wrote the chant, we added singing to hip hop, and
now everybody's doing it. It's okay, And I think it's
wrong for them to try to overlook us. We're from
South Carolina. I mean, what did that go with? Nothing?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So y'all ain't get paid from doctor drine e.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yes, we did, ok, but we had he admitted it.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
He had kept that post paid.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
But you know it's still there, everything that's been on it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, the beauty of it is they admitted it. But
the minute the elephant is brought out of the closet,
everybody runs because nobody wants to be labeled a thief.
And we just say that. I'm very honored, and I
got my girl blinding from the sequence here, just back.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
So excited.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, well you know Snoop, I've worked with Snoop he did.
I want to thank you along with me and Jazzy
Fay back in the day. But he wants me to
work with his daughter and he wants to work with
my son. So we we have a kindred spirit. And
l A hip hop was reminiscent to sequence Bunk, that
whole funk era. So I just think overall people need
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to respect the fact that it is what it is.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
So both of your children are doing music. Pardon me,
both of your children are doing music, all right. I
guess it's in the blood. Like there was no getting
around it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, both my kids' fathers I was with of course,
you know, I was with Janzelo and then before that,
I was with Little Rodney Sea from the Funky four
plus one. More so, my daughter sings and my son raps.
It kind of went this way.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Do you think I think that you should be getting
credit as a pioneer female rap Like I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Then y'all go gold.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
We went go. We were the first group to go
go sell twelve inch records. That means twelve inch records.
Along with the Sugar Hill Gang, toured the world pretty much.
We never get the recognition, and of course you know
that's probably platinum ten times over by now. But we
don't get the recognition because I think the New York
it's got a little salty because you know, we made
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it out of starting gates. I mean, it's like a race,
a marathon race. You're doing the full forty relay, you
passed the time, whoever you ended up at the finish line. Hey,
it's fair game, you know what.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Nobody knows the story because well, I'm in New York
and is as deep a Miami as in hip hop.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Maybe I know, you know, I really had no I
had no clue what funk you up?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I knew funk up, but I didn't know that Sequence.
The Sequence was the first group that pretty much go
gold but as a girl.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But who did you think would go first? Oh? And
we were ten, well ten fifteen years before them. There
used to be a thing you probably wouldn't have to
see the cash box called cash box and billboard. If
you do your research, it's there. We were the first
female group hip hop group period to make cash box
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and uh, Rolling Stone just did a big article on
us because a lot of the people that were back
then they knew, why are they getting any attention? And
you know, I just think it's sad because a lot
of the females hip hoppers. And I trust me, I
love them all, big respect props. But learn he'll loves
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Andrew Stone because it's reminiscent to what she did with
her group rap sing and that's what we did.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
And you guys are all still cool with each other.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
So it was never like a falling out with the
group broke up? Who with Sequence?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Oh? No, you know you girl group, you have your
red peck moments, but we are sisters and at the
end of the day. We love each other, we look
out for each other, We got each other. We don't
always agree, of course, I mean nobody always agrees. But
I decided to leave the group early on because I
moved to New York. I learned a lot of stuff
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about songwriting. I was a songwriter and a brother named
Craig Darry who used to be with the Sugarhill Click,
said you need to get out and go to New York.
Here event blah blah. And I moved to New York
and I learned a lot of stuff. Listen, I want.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
To start because this is a history lesson for a
lot of myself. So you signed to Sugar Hill Gang.
How did you get signed? How did you? First of all,
how did you get into hip hop? How did you
get signed? And how did you get your deal? Because
it wasn't like before where now where it's internet is
TV that's playing hip hop.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Radio wasn't playing hip hop back then?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
How did you get into it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Coming from Columbia, South Carolina and it was sixteen seventeen,
eighteen years old, we had a group that was doing
rap back then. Kington the Third was out and we
wrote a song called funk you up. I think Sylvia
Robinson came to South Carolina. It was the first leg
of the first sugar Hill Game tour, the first show,
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the first city we happened to be in the concert.
The road manager from sugar Hill Gang saw me and
thought I was just pretty chocolate chick. How to come
back second? So I said, well, if you let me in,
you gotta let my friends in. So we all came in,
got backstage. Sylvie was backstage and was literally on the
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stage and we said, hey, we wrap and she said, well,
let me hear what you got on the side of the stage,
and we went, funk you right on up, We're gonna
funk you right and she flipped. She said, oh my god,
oh my god. The next thing I know, we were
sitting in the dressing room giving our phone numbers. She says,
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I'm gonna make you girls start now. We had already
been a group, I mean at you know, being a cheerleader,
seeing John some writing cheers and creating stuff like that
was what we did. And she called us the very
next week, Wow blew us to New Jersey off our.
You know, we was talent show bound doing everything everybody did,
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but just in South Carolina and we cut the record
Funk You Up, and a couple of weeks later I
thank it. Three weeks record went golding through.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Was it a fair deal or did they take advantage
of y'all?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Of course it took advantage. Well, we did have a lawyer,
but he was a South Carolina lawyer. We thought we
were doing the right thing. But you know, one thing
I've learned in life is you have to have experience. Yes, Uh,
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Sylvie Robinson, I give him mad props because, quite contrary
to what a lot of people think. You know, when
you're the first at anything, you're gonna make mistakes. So
I lean heavily to that because she did something phenomenal
that turned out to be greatful a lot of people.
But you had to have some crash jest.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
What did the stand power been like like?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Transitioning from a hip hop artist to a R and
B trio to a legendary soul singer.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Like yeah, writer, well, I tell you the blessing For me,
I'm as sage and I think out the box. One
of the things I always hated was when I saw
groups that were from the fifties and sixties in the
seventies and eighties, still in the same uniform doing an
old hit. I said, I never want that. So what
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I did was I learned to be a chameleon, and
I wanted to change with the times. So what I
did was I kept myself around fresh hotness, and I
learned everything in life is a learning process. The moment
we think we know everything, we absolutely know nothing that's right.
So I learned to be a comedian and change with
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the times. So the stay in power has been number one.
My faith is unshakable in Christ. I love the Lord,
and that's my rock and my salvation. So I decided
when the music changed, you changed too. But you can't
straight too far away from who you are and with you.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
But it seems like you you're such a great singer
that it's like I can't see you ever doing anything else.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I can't believe you even used to rap?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
What the beauty if? That was? When we got discovered
as rappers. One the first question I asked Sylvie Robinson
is is Robinson? Is it okay if I sing too?
Because I wanted to put a hook. You don't want
to sing. So when you say that, hey, you said no,
that I was begging to do that because I knew
one day in life I wanted to sing from the church.
So I mean, I love rap, but I can sing too,
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so can we combine it too? And she's so excited
about the rap, she said, Oh, I need you do
what you want to do.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And that that is what kind of set the segue
up for me to make the transition from after being
thirty years old, you want to transition from hip hop
to hooray. So I just went ahead and started singing
and you know, kind of juggling now when I did
my deal with Arista. The one reason you don't know
a lot about the hip hop is one of the
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things that Clive Davis and Peter Edge wanted to do
was say, Okay, look, we don't want to date you.
I'm like, I'm still young. What are you talking about? Well,
we don't want to talk about all that stuff at
sugarhar So they kind of gagored at me not to
talk about artist coming out right got you? And because
I'm a singer now and they want to focus on that,
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And I'm like, I don't have a telescope into the future,
not knowing what it was going to be. How it
was going to be. All I know is I'm in
this game for somebody, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So what happens when people recognize you pull up the radiation.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
You're like, OK, okay, she.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Just wasn't talking about it in interviews, Like I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Talk about it in the interviews. It's not that I
didn't want to.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I never heard of anything like that that they put
a gag.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I don't even know, well I'm using that word gig.
But when your boss.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Tells you try to make the music, like how to
do a sixteen and do a hook and all.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That because you said enough time? Wow what I was hungry.
I was thirsty, I was ambitious and I went I started.
It's like now I'm developing film and you know, reality
shows up. It's having that bug to say, I'm I'm
a rubber band. You can stretch me, but I won't pa,
I'm gonna always do me. So you know the you know,
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being a rapper is a life lesson for me, but
it hurts when you've put over forty years in the
game and the people that are now eating off of
the foundation that you created don't look back and say, yo,
good looking. Now that's why Snoop shows us love. That's
why Doctor draining them show us love. The people in
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La embrace us because Yo Yo can say hey, EMC
like and say Yo, hey, it's because of y'all that
we're doing this. She thanked me, Yo yo, thank me.
We gotta show our first show coming up with EMCE
light and Salt and Pepper and just don't I said, oh,
you know, I got to bring the girls just go
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like that Rodick and Philly. So that's coming up, and
I'm excited about.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
That new artist.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm sorry he has any of the new y'all artists.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Thank you. City girls ain't never thank y'all.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
No, they don't know, but but but I promise you
they will know because I'm actually getting ready to do
We're working on a biopics.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
That's what I was gonna ask you. I saw you said,
is Jamie Fox working on that too?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Or was that you know Jamie and our work. Jamie
wants to do another film with me. But Ralph, when
I'm working, well, who did Hollywood husbands? Uh? On the
on the biopic and We're gonna have to cross all
these lanes. So I'm very excited about my journey and
my career and my life coming from hip hop through
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Neil So all the way up through my vertical whole
days and just having a bird's eye view like I'm
gonna I'm gonna blow your mind? You ready for this?
One of the things that I can't wait for the
world to see is hip hop was in the Bronx
before it ever came downtown. It was something in the Bronx.
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It was myself and Little Rodney See that introduced hip
hop to Downtown. We did the first party of the
show in the club that was called the roxy Uh.
It used to be a skating ring. We made it
into the club. It was Andre Harrel myself with the
sequence the Funky four plus one More Africa Bada. This
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was a show that my money paid for, made the
flyers for Put Together and his fourth. Hip Hop moved
from Uptown to Downtown single handily, and it never changed.
Madonna used to serve us drinks at Danceteria. That's how
really get okay. That was a club she was a
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waitress at.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
How do you remember her?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Because she served me drinks? Wow? You she was a waitress.
I was a performer there. Wow was she?
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Did she say you know I'm an aspiring singer.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Also, No, she didn't have to say that she was working.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
She was just you know, sometimes people will do that.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But I'm just giving you shedding a little light on
some stuff because a lot of people, when they disrespect
the sequence, they disrespect the culture of hip hop because
they don't even know how they got from uptown to downtown.
And when you overlook the fact that Hey, Little Run
and seeing m GP booked this show, paid everybody for
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the show, and henceforth the wild Style movie, bab Fire Freddy,
He'll tell you all these people know. So when you
overlook that, you overlook a movement. It's not just about
the one song. You have to look at the legacy
of what hip hop really stood for back then and
the sacrifices that were made. And I can't wait for
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the story of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
When I think of like sugar Hill Gang, I'm like,
there's no reason for anybody ever mentioned sugar Hill Records
and I mentioned Sequence.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Thank you. Yeah, I don't understand when the sugarhar Girl
they called us that, but we wrote all their hits.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah for the guys too.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Did you hear what I just said? Yeah, apache one
under all so really we were the West Street mob
that left Stance. I know you got the fever, that's
the sequence.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Were all getting paid Yeah good money.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Is a movie going to be Do you know where
it's going to be? Is it going to be on
like a like a BT series or is it going
to be in the theater?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
It will be, it will be. Uh, it won't be
just one episode. It'll be a series, a mini series.
That's what's working on because it spans too far talking
about nineteen seventy nine up until today and just releasing
the album that's already my single dropped and it went
straight to number two. Oh certain baby, So my my,
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it's a reason for everything. I think God preserved this
time for us to get the story right.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So you know, what advice would you give to this
musical generation, because when I hear you talk, I'm saying
to myself, man, it's almost like you always got to
constantly tell people what it is you do because if not,
they will forget.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Well they will forget I mean because the unfortunately, the
masterminds of the powers that be, in my opinion, have
taken the love and the genuineness out of the livelihood
of being you know an artist, back when you had
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to work and enjoy touring, and you know, a lot
of that stuff has been kind of cut out because
it's like a fast track now to success and a
lot of people are consumed with money. Back then, we
were having fun. You know, when you did a block party,
you had fun. You know what I mean, when you
went to the skates ring and you bounced frock, say
you have fun. Now it's all business, business, business, and
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at the end of the day. So my advice to
anybody doing this, man, take your time. It's like going
through school. You want to be a senior so bad,
but the minute you graduate and I wish I was
back in.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
So it's that to take it serious though, because a
lot of times we didn't look at business and.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
We had fun. You asked for somebody else and we
didn't guess what, that's me all day. But I'm still
here to tell you that's me. But I'm here to
tell you that I wouldn't change a thing because I
had a great time. I had a great time, and
sometimes you can't compromise the monetary value of it. For
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you know, my daughter gave me a penny. They had
a whole and said, don't be so busy making a
living that you forget to make a life, you know.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
All right, So let's talk about your children and their
respective father. So what was your your daughter's father?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Right?
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Did you guys ever think you were going to end
up together get married?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Now, my daughter's father's a little roundie see for four
plus no more? Did I ever think I fell in
love with him? He was a good person, still is
a good person. It was a leo. We were compatible.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
You're very into signed. You're like, I'm sad.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, yeah, because I you know, energy when we hooked up.
He when he came to sugar Hill was I think
after we had been on a couple of tours, Sylvia
signed the Funky four plus one more. The young man
that I was dating prior to becoming a celebrity died
a tragic accident in high school. So I was in
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mourning when we dropped Funky up. I was really grieving
and touring. He came along with the group. We had
so much fun, just clicked, and I got pregnant with
my daughter, and of course from the Bible bell I
at that point realized, oh my god, I can't be pregnant.
I can't be pregnant. I have a husband. So my mindset,
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the way I was taught back then was you can't
have a baby by the.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Wedlocke, gotta get married, got.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
To get married. So I got married for that reason,
not because I didn't love him, because I did. But
I'm an only child, so my mom and dad was
gonna wring my neck if I didn't.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
You're trying. Thing was.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I mean that shows how much expect we have for.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh yeah, god. Absolutely. So at that point we did
get married. We did get married. It didn't last long
because it wasn't right, but at the end of the day,
we did good business together. Because I have to shout
him out as the person that taught me the ropes.
Yeah he you know, he was a part of SUGARYO.
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Sugar didn't like him. They didn't agree with him because
he didn't take no mess. And it was like, you
ain't gonna take me to learn and pay me the
same thing I made in New York. So you know,
I started to learn the ropes to the game. I
moved to New York because of that, And that's why
I credit him for that, because after learning what I
learned about the industry, I could shape my life up
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a little different.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
So then you had the highly publicized relationship with DiAngelo,
And I told y'all used to work for D'Angelo.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
So I was.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Around like when all of that was happening, and you
guys used to work together.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Well, you know what, without giving a lot of I
was with the Angelo four or five years prior to
him becoming the Brown sugar Man. So a lot of
people don't know that. They just think it just was
an overnight thing that happened. It wasn't that way. We
were together for quite a while and by the time
we fell in love with each other, it wasn't anybody's
business because nobody was checking for him all that. No,
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it wasn't all that stuff going on. By that time
we were here or we was in love. You like
what you're gonna do, so you know, you can't just
start picking and plucking people apart because oh, somebody gets
a hit record. Because I think ten fifteen years prior
to that bunk you up had dropped, I was already there.
I was with Vertical Hole, was already in the game
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as a celebrity. So by the time he was discovered,
I was there already, and so I was more of
an asset than you know, the way they try to
make it look. Because at this point, like if you
take somebody who you're trying to get in the game
and say hey, I need you to hook up, it's like,
right now, anybody connected to Beyonesce I gonna win, you know.
So if you're winning, you want to put people that
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you want to win with winning people. And I think
that's where they kind of I'm gonna use the word tick,
you know, because the tick sucks the blood out of
a situation. And I think the industry, the conglomerate of
people kind of used that situation to count.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But you was already like a couple couple of solo
albums in by the time you got with him, right
one one.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I just thot my first I was with Vertical Hole.
When I got with him, I wouldn't even end my
solo career yet.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
When did you guys fall in love? Because like you said,
you had known him before Brown Sugar and everything.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You knew him before abs No, I when I before
you guys knew him? I knew him, but it was
just it was chemistry. We worked in the studio and
as we were working it just you know, the same
magic you heard that was being created was something that
was being created that that creator created lot. I didn't
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do that. I didn't even go oh, oh my God,
I want you now. It was never that.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I remember working for his management team and they didn't
like the fact that he was having a baby because
they felt like it would take away from him as
this sexy can't control God.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
That that I didn't make the baby by myself. He
didn't make the baby by you know, when people get
when that happens, it happens. You don't playing it. You
don't you know, you can't say, oh tonight, I can
I have a baby? You just don't do that. That's
a part of God's plan. But you know, I'm sure
a lot of people don't like you just ever got married.
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But you can't stop this work so mad. But I'm
just making a point. People, you know, you can't dictate
what happened. And they might not have liked him having
a baby. I didn't know. He didn't want a baby
something he wanted. No, absolutely, And my thing is I
think that people read way too much into again dollars
(23:53):
and cents right that all he was a check for them.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Absolutely, how did the relationship?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Why did they go left?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
See? If I tell you all that, you won't watch
the movie playing just for the sake of being being
who it's really about me. It's like anything you put
too much pressure on a situation. You take somebody who
is again thirsty, hungry to be successful. And I don't
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know what they said behind closed doors. I don't know
what they did. I don't know how they push buttons.
I can only tell you a lot of stuff was done,
but it wasn't a normal It hurt us both to
break up and and I can honestly tell you that
it affected us and it still affects my life, his life,
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my son's life. It's still those kind of moves hurt people,
and at the end of the day, you're not happy
because at the core it's not where you.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
The industry broke.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I can't say that. I can't say that without really
going into but I mean, you could be able to
tell me. You should be able to tell me. Do
you think we working on all?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Do you think I know you did it?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
How the label you when you got pregnant? Your label?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
They can't dictate my life because I'm a woman. It's
like Lauren here, she did say, y'all can't tell me
I'm a woman, so at should I not have children
because I have a record or should you know? You
have to look at life and say, should I put
everything that God has intended for me on hold to
accommodate the people that are leaches? No, if you want
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what I got, you got to take all of me.
And that's just said. So yes, I had two children,
and if I could have had ten children, I would.
I was an only child, so I loved big family.
But I did put myself on hold so that I
wouldn't have all these babies because you know, I wanted
to work. I want to have a life.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Was it a hard core parenting with with the agelong?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It's hard coparenting with anybody if you're not married.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Mm, especially y'all. Y'all both on TOI all the time.
Schedules crazy, all of us.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Like I said, both my children fathers are in the
entertainment business, and it's harder for anybody who is not
living together every day to co parent if you're both traveling.
So at the end of the day, my husband is God.
The reason I say that is because that's who helped
me sustain the life with my children.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Was there ever a time that you were disenchanted with
this music business having been at such a young age
and said I don't wanna do this anymore?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Absolutely? Absolutely, I've quit four or five times and people going, oh,
we need you, we need you, we need you. So, yes,
disenchanted is the right word.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I think because I see the good, the bad, and
the ugly, and because a lot of people that are
in the uh you know, the the fans don't see
the perimeter, and we see the perimeter. It makes you
say you have to pick and choose how you're gonna
use your gift. So I choose to use my gift
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in lyrics and in positive messages and real messages so
that the people that are listening from a heart space
get it. So I can't really be consumed with oh
they not they not recognizing me. Oh they're not doing
this cause they didn't give.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Me a gift.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
What happen with your daughter? You got an incident with
your daughter. I know that was publicized everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Hell, I mean since their daughter we go through we
all right, that's my daughter. The beautiful thing is when
we were raised and and and and he could tell
you this from South. Our parents didn't play with us. Okay.
I used to get a straightened call, throw straight across
the room at me, or a shoe or boot what
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they could grab. So the reality is we were raised
in a certain way and disrespect is not tolerated. That's
the fabric of who I am now. My daughter and
my son, they can wear me out. I'm gonna stay
throw something at you if you make me mad, because
that's not how we do. She have kids of her
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own now, and I have to get between her. Hey wait,
but it's called family. And the only reason it gets
magnified to the tenth power is because inquiring minds want
to know. If I didn't have a name, that wouldn't care.
So but my daughter's mind, that's my heart.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
And when you get beat as a kid, when you
get older and you know the objects don't work no more,
and you think you can raise up on your dad
exactly raised up on her mama.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Put them hands up there. Let me see where you're at.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Oh yeah, cause you can't. You can't come at me,
want to fight me like a street person, and I
and I just get the bell, or that ain't gonna
worry or we were pulling up Now now that's my
baby she you know. But y'all good always.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
So you think about making timeless music, right, because you
have songs that you've done so long ago that today
still are relevant and still people could listen to it
like it's brand new.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
But that's what I was talking about. You know, you
have to know your purpose. And that's what I meant
when I said creating music that meets the mind of
people that it touches, because you know, when we're gifted
with certain things, we're gifted for a purpose, and when
we make ourselves more important than the purpose, we lose
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the gift. So I had to make sure that I
didn't get consumed with everything that everybody else worries about
in terms of, oh, you ain't working it like a lot.
I've never been invited to black girls rock, no man,
never wow, come on now, but I love black girls
rock rock.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Come on now, that's just ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But I'm just saying, if I let little stuff like
that stop me from rocking as a black girl, hmm,
then I've lost the purpose.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I'm about to hit Connie right now that ain't even right.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I'm gone.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm only saying that because a lot of people come
to me, you come right around. Oh really, no, they
haven nobody to me, So I would never assert myself.
And this goes back to the way the industry shapes
the situation because of another situation.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Well, let's talk about some other things, because we're developing
reality shows. But you've also been on reality television, right,
R and B Divas and so what was your experience?
Because they did it wasn't what I thought it was
going to be or what you thought it was going
to be. Ridthinck and Angie Stone is going to come in.
She's the voice of reason, She's the person that's going to.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well that's what they hired me for. When I went
just the backstory to R and B Divas. Uh, when
before the show was created, I had created a show similar.
So the same guy Peel who put the second show
together was a person that I was working with the
development show. So same idea faith had I had and
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NICKI And when they called me and said yeah, well
we can all do it together, said okay. I thought
I was gonna be a producer on that. And then
when we addressed it. They said, well, we've already done contracts.
We've done d D d D. I said, okay, well I
want to I let go. I walked back because I
realized it's crazy. So the second season, I got a
call from TV one and they said, hey, look, these
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girls are fighting too much. They're doing this, they're doing that,
and you you know, we all love you, we respect you.
We need you to begin in here and try to
smooth things out. So I said, okay, that's easy enough
for me. So my purpose for being a part of
the show was to make them focus on who they
were as singer, even though they had to cat fight
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stuff going on. I my job was just to try
to smooth it over. Well, of course his reality TV
and I learned this the hardway. They turned that thing
all the way around and like who you think you
have and blah blahlah, and I'm like this, Hell, I'm
old enough to know the difference, still young enough to
make a difference. You need to chill, okay. So it
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really ticked me off because even though they didn't know
the ins and outs of my being there to smooth
things out, they used to get upset when I say, well,
let's sing something. Look, I'm trying to help y'all stay relevant.
Let's sing something. People need to hear your voices in
this capacity. But they, I think, underneath it all, they
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trying to figure out why she's still doing this and
I sing better than her, and I'm not here and
I'm not there, and I think that was the problem.
They became a little bit envious of the fact that, well,
who she thinks she is, I was their biggest dress
and as a result, I say, you know, I don't
want a part of this.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Yeah, so you walked off during the reunion.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I walked off because once they started to manipulate, and
you know, I was not comfortable with the lives of
touring and I'm like, look, I can't let you guys
destroy my brand. I've been doing this almost forty years
at this point, so I'm not willing to throw my
entire life away because you need five minutes of fame.
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So y'all got this. I'm good over here.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
They were even trying to say that your husband slept
with my husband, I mean your boyfriend at the time,
our manager slept with somebody from the staff.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You know what, I really don't want to address that
because he's fighting for his life right now, so I
kind of don't want to go there. That's a very
good friend of mine that had some wonderful times with
and yes there's been a lot of rumors about a
lot of things, and if you saw the show then
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you saw it was very uncomfortable for us. But again
manipulative and you know, he just had a very very
bad motives. Okay, been been down.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
We'll pray for him.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Thank you. I don't want to go there.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Why did you name the new album full Circle?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Well, that's a great question. I dictate the success of
my album based on the title. When I did Mahogany
so all I went to this whole Mahogany Vibe, Barushka
lipstick and all this, because I think that a song
or a title of a song dictates the strength of it.
Full Circle. I'm at a place where I've seen this
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industry do this, go around and around. It's the same
old thing. And I wanted to get back to Angie Stone,
the one that when I started out when I did Mahogany,
So when I did Black Diamond, I wanted to say, Okay,
I've tried all these other things. Let me go back
to me and full circle is the complete circle of
in my opinion, Well, I've come full circle and I
know who I am. I know whose I am, I
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know what I've survived. If I walked away today, I
can say I am a survivor, and full circle dictates
that and the end of themself. The fact that we've
got five stars out of five stars on everything across
the Border, and this album proves that you know, stamp out,
whether it's seventy nine or twenty nineteen, it's who you are.
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You know what your purpose is. So I'm good.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
You know what I noticed too about music, Sometimes when
we go through the most tragic things, that's when the
best songs, yes come out of it. Do you feel
like that's true for you?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I do. You know, just about two months ago, I
was fighting for my life and when a lot of
people don't notice, but when the album dropped, I was
just getting back to myself and I realized at that point,
you know what I'm saying, Now it's time to just
make a life, enjoy this thing again, get back to
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the to the place where music matters, because I think
at some point it's so much mess going on that
music doesn't matter anymore, and I wanted to make some
music that matter. And this is the time in my
life where I'm at my greatest. I think I've walked
a powerful journey. That t shirt that she has on,
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it's about me and the men in my life. These
are all the people that I ever did do it,
and I've worked with almost every one. Are the artists
of our generation.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
So that's a specialty that I'm working on because not
many people can say that. And I say, everybody is
so worried about who's Angie's dating me and the men
in my life. I ain't dating all these guys, but
I've worked with them all, you know, So I'm in
a good space.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
What was wrong with you two months ago? What was it?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You don't want to say, no, no, no, what. I'm a diabetic,
you know, I've been, you know, dealing with that. I
have a diabetic that was produced induced by pregnant zone
and I I had a chemical spell at Presbyterian Hospital
when I was twenty six years old that exposed me
to a German cause the diabetes because the medicine that
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had to give me. So when you guys saw me yay, big.
It was the medicine. But a lot of people like,
oh why are you with that? Big figure said, you
don't know my story. So now that I'm completely healed
and I ain't got my little swag back, you ain't
had none. But let the world tell it. She was
this big, fat girl. But again, you got to watch
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a movie.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
She is selling this movie right now.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Are you scared to have a popied chicken sandwich? Are
you scared to have a popeised chicken sandwich?
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Oh no, honey, okay, I'm not scared. But I don't
eat fried stuff like that. Never have. I don't eat
like a bunch of junk food, never have. So but
you know you can eat, but you have to eat right.
You can't just.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Hard coming from will you come front?
Speaker 3 (38:01):
No? But I cooked. See they're not season my food.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Without using her that you know. Somebody said, don't.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I don't use all that stuff like a lot of
people use a lot of heavy salt. You can use
lemon and it tastes just like salt. You have got
to just know. Now, we love to cook, don't get
me wrong. Ox tails and then cooked all of that.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Now, but.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
You don't have to eat unhealthy. You know, I think
God has preserved me all this time because he knows
my heart and he knows I'm gonna do right. So
that don't mean I don't sneak every now and then.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
And then, yeah, are you trying somebody to play you yet?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
For the ball, I got some ideas. That's some ideas
a couple of people that I really really am interested.
I know one segment of Ane Stone.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Is your daughter to be in it, of course.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
But the young lady that used to be Burning Max's daughter. Okay,
Oh yeah, we appreciate you for joining us. Yes, thank you,
Thank you a whole lot. Okay, I learned the whole definitely.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
I've always wanted to meet you, so I'm glad I
had an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I'm glad mainly because you know the back story to
a lot of this stuff that I've been hating on
for for years. I think, you know, being involved with
the sex symbol can be a blessing.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
I was like, who is she involved with?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Well, Angie Stone, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Angie Stone.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club Morning everybody, It's d J M Vy Angela Yee,
Charlamagne the guy.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
We are the Breakfast Club. You got special guests.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
In the building.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Columbia, South Carolina, Angie eight O three rhymes.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (00:18):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I can't complain. You know I've been blasted for a
long time in this business. You already know.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, people, I don't think people realize that Angie's one
of the Pine is a rap The Sequence your first.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Female go yeah, the first female group period to do
an original rap record, to do a rap record that
gone up the world. We had our neighborhood rappers, we
had our New York City rappers, but Sequence was the
world's rappers. And I think people get it twisted.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Funk funk it up with the song funk you up.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Until you got that mixed that with Bruno, I ain't
gonna go.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Didn't he stample it well?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
What he did did an interpolation of it up to
funk it up. We're gonna uptown funkus, funk you right
on up. We're gonna funk you the same thing. Were
getting paid no attention right now but guess what it's at. Yeah, well,
my attorney went in and we tried to do some stuff,
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and of course, because there's three group members and I've
been doing my thing for a minute, it kind of
pulled the scenes at who's who's with who and who's
down with And I just said, you know what, let
it rest because we're getting a lot of negative slack
because a lot of people that don't know about the
sequence or that song. We getting a lot of negative
flat because they're like, they don't sound nothing like it.
I'm like, they don't understand the interpolation process and how
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you know. The reason we were upset because Bruno admitted
that it was influenced by the sequence Wow, and he
did that on Instagram and somebody snatched it down.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Right, and people do interpolations so that they don't sample.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
So then they well, doctor d did keep your hands ringing?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
That was a direct rip from funk you up. They did.
I mean, we wrote the song, we wrote the melody,
wrote the chant, we added singing to hip hop, and
now everybody's doing it. It's okay, And I think it's
wrong for them to try to overlook us. We're from
South Carolina. I mean, what did that go with? Nothing?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So y'all ain't get paid from doctor drine e.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yes, we did, ok, but we had he admitted it.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
He had kept that post paid.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
But you know it's still there, everything that's been on it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, the beauty of it is they admitted it. But
the minute the elephant is brought out of the closet,
everybody runs because nobody wants to be labeled a thief.
And we just say that. I'm very honored, and I
got my girl blinding from the sequence here, just back.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
So excited.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, well you know Snoop, I've worked with Snoop he did.
I want to thank you along with me and Jazzy
Fay back in the day. But he wants me to
work with his daughter and he wants to work with
my son. So we we have a kindred spirit. And
l A hip hop was reminiscent to sequence Bunk, that
whole funk era. So I just think overall people need
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to respect the fact that it is what it is.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
So both of your children are doing music. Pardon me,
both of your children are doing music, all right. I
guess it's in the blood. Like there was no getting
around it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, both my kids' fathers I was with of course,
you know, I was with Janzelo and then before that,
I was with Little Rodney Sea from the Funky four
plus one. More so, my daughter sings and my son raps.
It kind of went this way.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Do you think I think that you should be getting
credit as a pioneer female rap Like I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Then y'all go gold.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
We went go. We were the first group to go
go sell twelve inch records. That means twelve inch records.
Along with the Sugar Hill Gang, toured the world pretty much.
We never get the recognition, and of course you know
that's probably platinum ten times over by now. But we
don't get the recognition because I think the New York
it's got a little salty because you know, we made
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it out of starting gates. I mean, it's like a race,
a marathon race. You're doing the full forty relay, you
passed the time, whoever you ended up at the finish line. Hey,
it's fair game, you know what.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Nobody knows the story because well, I'm in New York
and is as deep a Miami as in hip hop.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Maybe I know, you know, I really had no I
had no clue what funk you up?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I knew funk up, but I didn't know that Sequence.
The Sequence was the first group that pretty much go
gold but as a girl.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But who did you think would go first? Oh? And
we were ten, well ten fifteen years before them. There
used to be a thing you probably wouldn't have to
see the cash box called cash box and billboard. If
you do your research, it's there. We were the first
female group hip hop group period to make cash box
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and uh, Rolling Stone just did a big article on
us because a lot of the people that were back
then they knew, why are they getting any attention? And
you know, I just think it's sad because a lot
of the females hip hoppers. And I trust me, I
love them all, big respect props. But learn he'll loves
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Andrew Stone because it's reminiscent to what she did with
her group rap sing and that's what we did.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
And you guys are all still cool with each other.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
So it was never like a falling out with the
group broke up? Who with Sequence?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Oh? No, you know you girl group, you have your
red peck moments, but we are sisters and at the
end of the day. We love each other, we look
out for each other, We got each other. We don't
always agree, of course, I mean nobody always agrees. But
I decided to leave the group early on because I
moved to New York. I learned a lot of stuff
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about songwriting. I was a songwriter and a brother named
Craig Darry who used to be with the Sugarhill Click,
said you need to get out and go to New York.
Here event blah blah. And I moved to New York
and I learned a lot of stuff. Listen, I want.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
To start because this is a history lesson for a
lot of myself. So you signed to Sugar Hill Gang.
How did you get signed? How did you? First of all,
how did you get into hip hop? How did you
get signed? And how did you get your deal? Because
it wasn't like before where now where it's internet is
TV that's playing hip hop.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Radio wasn't playing hip hop back then?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
How did you get into it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Coming from Columbia, South Carolina and it was sixteen seventeen,
eighteen years old, we had a group that was doing
rap back then. Kington the Third was out and we
wrote a song called funk you up. I think Sylvia
Robinson came to South Carolina. It was the first leg
of the first sugar Hill Game tour, the first show,
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the first city we happened to be in the concert.
The road manager from sugar Hill Gang saw me and
thought I was just pretty chocolate chick. How to come
back second? So I said, well, if you let me in,
you gotta let my friends in. So we all came in,
got backstage. Sylvie was backstage and was literally on the
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stage and we said, hey, we wrap and she said, well,
let me hear what you got on the side of the stage,
and we went, funk you right on up, We're gonna
funk you right and she flipped. She said, oh my god,
oh my god. The next thing I know, we were
sitting in the dressing room giving our phone numbers. She says,
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I'm gonna make you girls start now. We had already
been a group, I mean at you know, being a cheerleader,
seeing John some writing cheers and creating stuff like that
was what we did. And she called us the very
next week, Wow blew us to New Jersey off our.
You know, we was talent show bound doing everything everybody did,
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but just in South Carolina and we cut the record
Funk You Up, and a couple of weeks later I
thank it. Three weeks record went golding through.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Was it a fair deal or did they take advantage
of y'all?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Of course it took advantage. Well, we did have a lawyer,
but he was a South Carolina lawyer. We thought we
were doing the right thing. But you know, one thing
I've learned in life is you have to have experience. Yes, Uh,
(08:25):
Sylvie Robinson, I give him mad props because, quite contrary
to what a lot of people think. You know, when
you're the first at anything, you're gonna make mistakes. So
I lean heavily to that because she did something phenomenal
that turned out to be greatful a lot of people.
But you had to have some crash jest.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
What did the stand power been like like?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Transitioning from a hip hop artist to a R and
B trio to a legendary soul singer.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Like yeah, writer, well, I tell you the blessing For me,
I'm as sage and I think out the box. One
of the things I always hated was when I saw
groups that were from the fifties and sixties in the
seventies and eighties, still in the same uniform doing an
old hit. I said, I never want that. So what
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I did was I learned to be a chameleon, and
I wanted to change with the times. So what I
did was I kept myself around fresh hotness, and I
learned everything in life is a learning process. The moment
we think we know everything, we absolutely know nothing that's right.
So I learned to be a comedian and change with
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the times. So the stay in power has been number one.
My faith is unshakable in Christ. I love the Lord,
and that's my rock and my salvation. So I decided
when the music changed, you changed too. But you can't
straight too far away from who you are and with you.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
But it seems like you you're such a great singer
that it's like I can't see you ever doing anything else.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I can't believe you even used to rap?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
What the beauty if? That was? When we got discovered
as rappers. One the first question I asked Sylvie Robinson
is is Robinson? Is it okay if I sing too?
Because I wanted to put a hook. You don't want
to sing. So when you say that, hey, you said no,
that I was begging to do that because I knew
one day in life I wanted to sing from the church.
So I mean, I love rap, but I can sing too,
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so can we combine it too? And she's so excited
about the rap, she said, Oh, I need you do
what you want to do.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And that that is what kind of set the segue
up for me to make the transition from after being
thirty years old, you want to transition from hip hop
to hooray. So I just went ahead and started singing
and you know, kind of juggling now when I did
my deal with Arista. The one reason you don't know
a lot about the hip hop is one of the
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things that Clive Davis and Peter Edge wanted to do
was say, Okay, look, we don't want to date you.
I'm like, I'm still young. What are you talking about? Well,
we don't want to talk about all that stuff at
sugarhar So they kind of gagored at me not to
talk about artist coming out right got you? And because
I'm a singer now and they want to focus on that,
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And I'm like, I don't have a telescope into the future,
not knowing what it was going to be. How it
was going to be. All I know is I'm in
this game for somebody, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So what happens when people recognize you pull up the radiation.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
You're like, OK, okay, she.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Just wasn't talking about it in interviews, Like I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Talk about it in the interviews. It's not that I
didn't want to.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I never heard of anything like that that they put
a gag.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I don't even know, well I'm using that word gig.
But when your boss.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Tells you try to make the music, like how to
do a sixteen and do a hook and all.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That because you said enough time? Wow what I was hungry.
I was thirsty, I was ambitious and I went I started.
It's like now I'm developing film and you know, reality
shows up. It's having that bug to say, I'm I'm
a rubber band. You can stretch me, but I won't pa,
I'm gonna always do me. So you know the you know,
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being a rapper is a life lesson for me, but
it hurts when you've put over forty years in the
game and the people that are now eating off of
the foundation that you created don't look back and say, yo,
good looking. Now that's why Snoop shows us love. That's
why Doctor draining them show us love. The people in
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La embrace us because Yo Yo can say hey, EMC
like and say Yo, hey, it's because of y'all that
we're doing this. She thanked me, Yo yo, thank me.
We gotta show our first show coming up with EMCE
light and Salt and Pepper and just don't I said, oh,
you know, I got to bring the girls just go
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like that Rodick and Philly. So that's coming up, and
I'm excited about.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
That new artist.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm sorry he has any of the new y'all artists.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Thank you. City girls ain't never thank y'all.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
No, they don't know, but but but I promise you
they will know because I'm actually getting ready to do
We're working on a biopics.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
That's what I was gonna ask you. I saw you said,
is Jamie Fox working on that too?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Or was that you know Jamie and our work. Jamie
wants to do another film with me. But Ralph, when
I'm working, well, who did Hollywood husbands? Uh? On the
on the biopic and We're gonna have to cross all
these lanes. So I'm very excited about my journey and
my career and my life coming from hip hop through
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Neil So all the way up through my vertical whole
days and just having a bird's eye view like I'm
gonna I'm gonna blow your mind? You ready for this?
One of the things that I can't wait for the
world to see is hip hop was in the Bronx
before it ever came downtown. It was something in the Bronx.
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It was myself and Little Rodney See that introduced hip
hop to Downtown. We did the first party of the
show in the club that was called the roxy Uh.
It used to be a skating ring. We made it
into the club. It was Andre Harrel myself with the
sequence the Funky four plus one More Africa Bada. This
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was a show that my money paid for, made the
flyers for Put Together and his fourth. Hip Hop moved
from Uptown to Downtown single handily, and it never changed.
Madonna used to serve us drinks at Danceteria. That's how
really get okay. That was a club she was a
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waitress at.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
How do you remember her?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Because she served me drinks? Wow? You she was a waitress.
I was a performer there. Wow was she?
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Did she say you know I'm an aspiring singer.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Also, No, she didn't have to say that she was working.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
She was just you know, sometimes people will do that.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But I'm just giving you shedding a little light on
some stuff because a lot of people, when they disrespect
the sequence, they disrespect the culture of hip hop because
they don't even know how they got from uptown to downtown.
And when you overlook the fact that Hey, Little Run
and seeing m GP booked this show, paid everybody for
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the show, and henceforth the wild Style movie, bab Fire Freddy,
He'll tell you all these people know. So when you
overlook that, you overlook a movement. It's not just about
the one song. You have to look at the legacy
of what hip hop really stood for back then and
the sacrifices that were made. And I can't wait for
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the story of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
When I think of like sugar Hill Gang, I'm like,
there's no reason for anybody ever mentioned sugar Hill Records
and I mentioned Sequence.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Thank you. Yeah, I don't understand when the sugarhar Girl
they called us that, but we wrote all their hits.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah for the guys too.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Did you hear what I just said? Yeah, apache one
under all so really we were the West Street mob
that left Stance. I know you got the fever, that's
the sequence.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Were all getting paid Yeah good money.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Is a movie going to be Do you know where
it's going to be? Is it going to be on
like a like a BT series or is it going
to be in the theater?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
It will be, it will be. Uh, it won't be
just one episode. It'll be a series, a mini series.
That's what's working on because it spans too far talking
about nineteen seventy nine up until today and just releasing
the album that's already my single dropped and it went
straight to number two. Oh certain baby, So my my,
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it's a reason for everything. I think God preserved this
time for us to get the story right.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So you know, what advice would you give to this
musical generation, because when I hear you talk, I'm saying
to myself, man, it's almost like you always got to
constantly tell people what it is you do because if not,
they will forget.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Well they will forget I mean because the unfortunately, the
masterminds of the powers that be, in my opinion, have
taken the love and the genuineness out of the livelihood
of being you know an artist, back when you had
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to work and enjoy touring, and you know, a lot
of that stuff has been kind of cut out because
it's like a fast track now to success and a
lot of people are consumed with money. Back then, we
were having fun. You know, when you did a block party,
you had fun. You know what I mean, when you
went to the skates ring and you bounced frock, say
you have fun. Now it's all business, business, business, and
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at the end of the day. So my advice to
anybody doing this, man, take your time. It's like going
through school. You want to be a senior so bad,
but the minute you graduate and I wish I was
back in.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
So it's that to take it serious though, because a
lot of times we didn't look at business and.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
We had fun. You asked for somebody else and we
didn't guess what, that's me all day. But I'm still
here to tell you that's me. But I'm here to
tell you that I wouldn't change a thing because I
had a great time. I had a great time, and
sometimes you can't compromise the monetary value of it. For
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you know, my daughter gave me a penny. They had
a whole and said, don't be so busy making a
living that you forget to make a life, you know.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
All right, So let's talk about your children and their
respective father. So what was your your daughter's father?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Right?
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Did you guys ever think you were going to end
up together get married?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Now, my daughter's father's a little roundie see for four
plus no more? Did I ever think I fell in
love with him? He was a good person, still is
a good person. It was a leo. We were compatible.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
You're very into signed. You're like, I'm sad.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, yeah, because I you know, energy when we hooked up.
He when he came to sugar Hill was I think
after we had been on a couple of tours, Sylvia
signed the Funky four plus one more. The young man
that I was dating prior to becoming a celebrity died
a tragic accident in high school. So I was in
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mourning when we dropped Funky up. I was really grieving
and touring. He came along with the group. We had
so much fun, just clicked, and I got pregnant with
my daughter, and of course from the Bible bell I
at that point realized, oh my god, I can't be pregnant.
I can't be pregnant. I have a husband. So my mindset,
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the way I was taught back then was you can't
have a baby by the.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Wedlocke, gotta get married, got.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
To get married. So I got married for that reason,
not because I didn't love him, because I did. But
I'm an only child, so my mom and dad was
gonna wring my neck if I didn't.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
You're trying. Thing was.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I mean that shows how much expect we have for.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh yeah, god. Absolutely. So at that point we did
get married. We did get married. It didn't last long
because it wasn't right, but at the end of the day,
we did good business together. Because I have to shout
him out as the person that taught me the ropes.
Yeah he you know, he was a part of SUGARYO.
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Sugar didn't like him. They didn't agree with him because
he didn't take no mess. And it was like, you
ain't gonna take me to learn and pay me the
same thing I made in New York. So you know,
I started to learn the ropes to the game. I
moved to New York because of that, And that's why
I credit him for that, because after learning what I
learned about the industry, I could shape my life up
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a little different.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
So then you had the highly publicized relationship with DiAngelo,
And I told y'all used to work for D'Angelo.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
So I was.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Around like when all of that was happening, and you
guys used to work together.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Well, you know what, without giving a lot of I
was with the Angelo four or five years prior to
him becoming the Brown sugar Man. So a lot of
people don't know that. They just think it just was
an overnight thing that happened. It wasn't that way. We
were together for quite a while and by the time
we fell in love with each other, it wasn't anybody's
business because nobody was checking for him all that. No,
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it wasn't all that stuff going on. By that time
we were here or we was in love. You like
what you're gonna do, so you know, you can't just
start picking and plucking people apart because oh, somebody gets
a hit record. Because I think ten fifteen years prior
to that bunk you up had dropped, I was already there.
I was with Vertical Hole, was already in the game
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as a celebrity. So by the time he was discovered,
I was there already, and so I was more of
an asset than you know, the way they try to
make it look. Because at this point, like if you
take somebody who you're trying to get in the game
and say hey, I need you to hook up, it's like,
right now, anybody connected to Beyonesce I gonna win, you know.
So if you're winning, you want to put people that
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you want to win with winning people. And I think
that's where they kind of I'm gonna use the word tick,
you know, because the tick sucks the blood out of
a situation. And I think the industry, the conglomerate of
people kind of used that situation to count.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But you was already like a couple couple of solo
albums in by the time you got with him, right
one one.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I just thot my first I was with Vertical Hole.
When I got with him, I wouldn't even end my
solo career yet.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
When did you guys fall in love? Because like you said,
you had known him before Brown Sugar and everything.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You knew him before abs No, I when I before
you guys knew him? I knew him, but it was
just it was chemistry. We worked in the studio and
as we were working it just you know, the same
magic you heard that was being created was something that
was being created that that creator created lot. I didn't
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do that. I didn't even go oh, oh my God,
I want you now. It was never that.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I remember working for his management team and they didn't
like the fact that he was having a baby because
they felt like it would take away from him as
this sexy can't control God.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
That that I didn't make the baby by myself. He
didn't make the baby by you know, when people get
when that happens, it happens. You don't playing it. You
don't you know, you can't say, oh tonight, I can
I have a baby? You just don't do that. That's
a part of God's plan. But you know, I'm sure
a lot of people don't like you just ever got married.
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But you can't stop this work so mad. But I'm
just making a point. People, you know, you can't dictate
what happened. And they might not have liked him having
a baby. I didn't know. He didn't want a baby
something he wanted. No, absolutely, And my thing is I
think that people read way too much into again dollars
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and cents right that all he was a check for them.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Absolutely, how did the relationship?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Why did they go left?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
See? If I tell you all that, you won't watch
the movie playing just for the sake of being being
who it's really about me. It's like anything you put
too much pressure on a situation. You take somebody who
is again thirsty, hungry to be successful. And I don't
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know what they said behind closed doors. I don't know
what they did. I don't know how they push buttons.
I can only tell you a lot of stuff was done,
but it wasn't a normal It hurt us both to
break up and and I can honestly tell you that
it affected us and it still affects my life, his life,
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my son's life. It's still those kind of moves hurt people,
and at the end of the day, you're not happy
because at the core it's not where you.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
The industry broke.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I can't say that. I can't say that without really
going into but I mean, you could be able to
tell me. You should be able to tell me. Do
you think we working on all?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Do you think I know you did it?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
How the label you when you got pregnant? Your label?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
They can't dictate my life because I'm a woman. It's
like Lauren here, she did say, y'all can't tell me
I'm a woman, so at should I not have children
because I have a record or should you know? You
have to look at life and say, should I put
everything that God has intended for me on hold to
accommodate the people that are leaches? No, if you want
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what I got, you got to take all of me.
And that's just said. So yes, I had two children,
and if I could have had ten children, I would.
I was an only child, so I loved big family.
But I did put myself on hold so that I
wouldn't have all these babies because you know, I wanted
to work. I want to have a life.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Was it a hard core parenting with with the agelong?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It's hard coparenting with anybody if you're not married.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Mm, especially y'all. Y'all both on TOI all the time.
Schedules crazy, all of us.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Like I said, both my children fathers are in the
entertainment business, and it's harder for anybody who is not
living together every day to co parent if you're both traveling.
So at the end of the day, my husband is God.
The reason I say that is because that's who helped
me sustain the life with my children.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Was there ever a time that you were disenchanted with
this music business having been at such a young age
and said I don't wanna do this anymore?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Absolutely? Absolutely, I've quit four or five times and people going, oh,
we need you, we need you, we need you. So, yes,
disenchanted is the right word.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I think because I see the good, the bad, and
the ugly, and because a lot of people that are
in the uh you know, the the fans don't see
the perimeter, and we see the perimeter. It makes you
say you have to pick and choose how you're gonna
use your gift. So I choose to use my gift
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in lyrics and in positive messages and real messages so
that the people that are listening from a heart space
get it. So I can't really be consumed with oh
they not they not recognizing me. Oh they're not doing
this cause they didn't give.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Me a gift.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
What happen with your daughter? You got an incident with
your daughter. I know that was publicized everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Hell, I mean since their daughter we go through we
all right, that's my daughter. The beautiful thing is when
we were raised and and and and he could tell
you this from South. Our parents didn't play with us. Okay.
I used to get a straightened call, throw straight across
the room at me, or a shoe or boot what
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they could grab. So the reality is we were raised
in a certain way and disrespect is not tolerated. That's
the fabric of who I am now. My daughter and
my son, they can wear me out. I'm gonna stay
throw something at you if you make me mad, because
that's not how we do. She have kids of her
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own now, and I have to get between her. Hey wait,
but it's called family. And the only reason it gets
magnified to the tenth power is because inquiring minds want
to know. If I didn't have a name, that wouldn't care.
So but my daughter's mind, that's my heart.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
And when you get beat as a kid, when you
get older and you know the objects don't work no more,
and you think you can raise up on your dad
exactly raised up on her mama.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Put them hands up there. Let me see where you're at.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Oh yeah, cause you can't. You can't come at me,
want to fight me like a street person, and I
and I just get the bell, or that ain't gonna
worry or we were pulling up Now now that's my
baby she you know. But y'all good always.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
So you think about making timeless music, right, because you
have songs that you've done so long ago that today
still are relevant and still people could listen to it
like it's brand new.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
But that's what I was talking about. You know, you
have to know your purpose. And that's what I meant
when I said creating music that meets the mind of
people that it touches, because you know, when we're gifted
with certain things, we're gifted for a purpose, and when
we make ourselves more important than the purpose, we lose
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the gift. So I had to make sure that I
didn't get consumed with everything that everybody else worries about
in terms of, oh, you ain't working it like a lot.
I've never been invited to black girls rock, no man,
never wow, come on now, but I love black girls
rock rock.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Come on now, that's just ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But I'm just saying, if I let little stuff like
that stop me from rocking as a black girl, hmm,
then I've lost the purpose.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I'm about to hit Connie right now that ain't even right.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I'm gone.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm only saying that because a lot of people come
to me, you come right around. Oh really, no, they
haven nobody to me, So I would never assert myself.
And this goes back to the way the industry shapes
the situation because of another situation.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Well, let's talk about some other things, because we're developing
reality shows. But you've also been on reality television, right,
R and B Divas and so what was your experience?
Because they did it wasn't what I thought it was
going to be or what you thought it was going
to be. Ridthinck and Angie Stone is going to come in.
She's the voice of reason, She's the person that's going to.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well that's what they hired me for. When I went
just the backstory to R and B Divas. Uh, when
before the show was created, I had created a show similar.
So the same guy Peel who put the second show
together was a person that I was working with the
development show. So same idea faith had I had and
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NICKI And when they called me and said yeah, well
we can all do it together, said okay. I thought
I was gonna be a producer on that. And then
when we addressed it. They said, well, we've already done contracts.
We've done d D d D. I said, okay, well I
want to I let go. I walked back because I
realized it's crazy. So the second season, I got a
call from TV one and they said, hey, look, these
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girls are fighting too much. They're doing this, they're doing that,
and you you know, we all love you, we respect you.
We need you to begin in here and try to
smooth things out. So I said, okay, that's easy enough
for me. So my purpose for being a part of
the show was to make them focus on who they
were as singer, even though they had to cat fight
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stuff going on. I my job was just to try
to smooth it over. Well, of course his reality TV
and I learned this the hardway. They turned that thing
all the way around and like who you think you
have and blah blahlah, and I'm like this, Hell, I'm
old enough to know the difference, still young enough to
make a difference. You need to chill, okay. So it
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really ticked me off because even though they didn't know
the ins and outs of my being there to smooth
things out, they used to get upset when I say, well,
let's sing something. Look, I'm trying to help y'all stay relevant.
Let's sing something. People need to hear your voices in
this capacity. But they, I think, underneath it all, they
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trying to figure out why she's still doing this and
I sing better than her, and I'm not here and
I'm not there, and I think that was the problem.
They became a little bit envious of the fact that, well,
who she thinks she is, I was their biggest dress
and as a result, I say, you know, I don't
want a part of this.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Yeah, so you walked off during the reunion.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I walked off because once they started to manipulate, and
you know, I was not comfortable with the lives of
touring and I'm like, look, I can't let you guys
destroy my brand. I've been doing this almost forty years
at this point, so I'm not willing to throw my
entire life away because you need five minutes of fame.
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So y'all got this. I'm good over here.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
They were even trying to say that your husband slept
with my husband, I mean your boyfriend at the time,
our manager slept with somebody from the staff.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You know what, I really don't want to address that
because he's fighting for his life right now, so I
kind of don't want to go there. That's a very
good friend of mine that had some wonderful times with
and yes there's been a lot of rumors about a
lot of things, and if you saw the show then
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you saw it was very uncomfortable for us. But again
manipulative and you know, he just had a very very
bad motives. Okay, been been down.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
We'll pray for him.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Thank you. I don't want to go there.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Why did you name the new album full Circle?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Well, that's a great question. I dictate the success of
my album based on the title. When I did Mahogany
so all I went to this whole Mahogany Vibe, Barushka
lipstick and all this, because I think that a song
or a title of a song dictates the strength of it.
Full Circle. I'm at a place where I've seen this
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industry do this, go around and around. It's the same
old thing. And I wanted to get back to Angie Stone,
the one that when I started out when I did Mahogany,
So when I did Black Diamond, I wanted to say, Okay,
I've tried all these other things. Let me go back
to me and full circle is the complete circle of
in my opinion, Well, I've come full circle and I
know who I am. I know whose I am, I
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know what I've survived. If I walked away today, I
can say I am a survivor, and full circle dictates
that and the end of themself. The fact that we've
got five stars out of five stars on everything across
the Border, and this album proves that you know, stamp out,
whether it's seventy nine or twenty nineteen, it's who you are.
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You know what your purpose is. So I'm good.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
You know what I noticed too about music, Sometimes when
we go through the most tragic things, that's when the
best songs, yes come out of it. Do you feel
like that's true for you?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I do. You know, just about two months ago, I
was fighting for my life and when a lot of
people don't notice, but when the album dropped, I was
just getting back to myself and I realized at that point,
you know what I'm saying, Now it's time to just
make a life, enjoy this thing again, get back to
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the to the place where music matters, because I think
at some point it's so much mess going on that
music doesn't matter anymore, and I wanted to make some
music that matter. And this is the time in my
life where I'm at my greatest. I think I've walked
a powerful journey. That t shirt that she has on,
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it's about me and the men in my life. These
are all the people that I ever did do it,
and I've worked with almost every one. Are the artists
of our generation.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
So that's a specialty that I'm working on because not
many people can say that. And I say, everybody is
so worried about who's Angie's dating me and the men
in my life. I ain't dating all these guys, but
I've worked with them all, you know, So I'm in
a good space.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
What was wrong with you two months ago? What was it?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You don't want to say, no, no, no, what. I'm a diabetic,
you know, I've been, you know, dealing with that. I
have a diabetic that was produced induced by pregnant zone
and I I had a chemical spell at Presbyterian Hospital
when I was twenty six years old that exposed me
to a German cause the diabetes because the medicine that
(37:09):
had to give me. So when you guys saw me yay, big.
It was the medicine. But a lot of people like,
oh why are you with that? Big figure said, you
don't know my story. So now that I'm completely healed
and I ain't got my little swag back, you ain't
had none. But let the world tell it. She was
this big, fat girl. But again, you got to watch
(37:33):
a movie.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
She is selling this movie right now.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Are you scared to have a popied chicken sandwich? Are
you scared to have a popeised chicken sandwich?
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Oh no, honey, okay, I'm not scared. But I don't
eat fried stuff like that. Never have. I don't eat
like a bunch of junk food, never have. So but
you know you can eat, but you have to eat right.
You can't just.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Hard coming from will you come front?
Speaker 3 (38:01):
No? But I cooked. See they're not season my food.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Without using her that you know. Somebody said, don't.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I don't use all that stuff like a lot of
people use a lot of heavy salt. You can use
lemon and it tastes just like salt. You have got
to just know. Now, we love to cook, don't get
me wrong. Ox tails and then cooked all of that.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Now, but.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
You don't have to eat unhealthy. You know, I think
God has preserved me all this time because he knows
my heart and he knows I'm gonna do right. So
that don't mean I don't sneak every now and then.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
And then, yeah, are you trying somebody to play you yet?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
For the ball, I got some ideas. That's some ideas
a couple of people that I really really am interested.
I know one segment of Ane Stone.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Is your daughter to be in it, of course.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
But the young lady that used to be Burning Max's daughter. Okay,
Oh yeah, we appreciate you for joining us. Yes, thank you,
Thank you a whole lot. Okay, I learned the whole definitely.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
I've always wanted to meet you, so I'm glad I
had an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I'm glad mainly because you know the back story to
a lot of this stuff that I've been hating on
for for years. I think, you know, being involved with
the sex symbol can be a blessing.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
I was like, who is she involved with?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Well, Angie Stone, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Angie Stone.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
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