June 14, 2023 • 32 mins
Toosii Talks Growth, Ego, How Men And Women Define Love, New Music + More
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everybody is j n V.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
Charlamage the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Of course,
we have DJ.
Speaker 4 (00:05):
Nalla, Nola, Simona.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Pill and we got a special guest in the building, a.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Lot more money than we've seen them last time.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I got a lot more money, a lot more money,
a lot more ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Welcome brother. How you feeling.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm feeling good Man album album doing well?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (00:21):
Yeah man, we we we We're going crazy right now.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Your yeah, was that something backwards?
Speaker 6 (00:27):
Noah, that's my real name.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, that's my real name.
Speaker 6 (00:33):
So I always told myself, like when I when I
dropped my debut album, it's gonna be your.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Self titled album.
Speaker 7 (00:38):
Is that like French? Yeah, it is, it is, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Love and friendship?
Speaker 7 (00:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I always wonder what is the debut album nowadays? Because
you've been you've been out here for a minute. We
have heard a lot of music, a.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Lot of EPs, all types of records.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Like how do you know when it's.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Time to be a different rollout? You know what I
mean with the debut album?
Speaker 6 (00:57):
Like we treat everything like an album, but it's a
different roll out.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's a different process.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, we see six label people today, So that's how
you know the difference.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
To Donald up here? You know it must be something different.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Don't come outside?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah yeah, So is this album like a twosy verse
your your government?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Name?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Is that the play on it?
Speaker 6 (01:19):
It's not really a toy versus your It's more so
like this is this is who yours?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You know?
Speaker 6 (01:25):
Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of who Tousy is.
But through the music, I'm gonna tell my story. So
if you go just skim through the album, it'll be
stories of my life. It's stories of my life all
throughout the album.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
So you know what your name actually means?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I love and friends.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
What I tell you, I tell you don't listen?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You heard me, right?
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I type blame all of y'all though, because bro, this
is crazy waking up at none in the morning.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I swear I heard that, but I definitely heard you
if it was friend dream man, I was looking at
your jewey for a second ship.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
The ship you're saying, fake, Yeah, man, when he last
you didn't have to Yeah, when he.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Put the little that ship with viral too, that ship
was that ship was So.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
He's probably looking for the Diamond checking out back from.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I was working with him, because yeah, he was acting
like it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'm like, ship, you had a great first week with
with your said, does you care about first week sales
since you have such a strong.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Fanas Honestly, no, because it don't matter when something when
something catch off the album, you get what I'm saying,
like it could catch off the album a year from now,
and as long as it catch that's that's how that mattered.
Like I feel like, I mean, man, let's saying it's
generations with the music man. Sooner or later, the Knicks
(03:04):
that's on top ain't gonna be on top. They gotta
be somebody that come after them, and I ain't. I'm
not in no rush to get nowhere that I already
know I'm gonna be at, so like who the story
already wrote, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Tripping on none of that.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
How does it feel to have your dream actually fulfilled?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Think about when you know you first met Arnold and
he's telling you these things, and I know you got
your own things that you believe, but now it's like, damn, man.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's a blessing.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Bro, It's a blessing, And I'm just happy to be
where I'm at, But at the same time, I'm blessed
to have the drive that I got because I'm wanting
to do a lot of things that other artists are
not willing to do. I'm hungry, I'm humble, I'm confident.
But in all I'm a good person and good things
come to good people. So I feel like that's the
(03:50):
biggest thing my personality go a long way.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
How's the city taking you in?
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Man like hometown? Yeah, it's cool, you feel me like
it's always love. I don't really, I ain't no outside person.
I don't drink, I don't smoke our own party, own that.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I ain't into that because that's one of the hardest
I would say. You know, it's when people are not
from New York City, those five boroughs, it's always like
it's it's even harder for them to break because a
lot of people don't accept the fact that it is.
So I know you had to deal with that a lot.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Yeah, No, it was death like like coming from upstate,
Man like, it ain't no, it ain't no luck, HU
feel me. But at the end of the day, it's
like so what like people see see the problem is
people get boxed in and they start to feel like,
you know, where they're at is the only thing that's
in the world. They try to become, you know, famous
(04:42):
in their hometown before they become famous everywhere else. And
I took a different route. I'm like, I'm gonna travel
the world and I'm gonna gett known in all these
other places to where it make it make my name
look bigger and everybody at home gotta respect me. So
like that was the route I took. I mean from there,
we just we've been killing it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
But do you feel a love back home because you
know you your hometoime favorite. Yeah, it's not too many
artists from your hometown, so it's like you are it.
So do you see the love when you walk in
and the kids was like I want to be him,
and the old teachers call him like I remember you.
Are you feeling that type of love because you deserve it?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Always, always, especially like in my hometown home song, Like
in Syracuse, it's like, man, I'm besides post malone or
post malone over he don't only claims Syracuse.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Post Maloney from Syracuse had I had no idea posting
Milwaukee like Orion.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I never do that.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Yeah, he bore he was more than Syracuse and then
he I guess he moved to Texas like right after
he was born. Like me is like I was there
for a few years, Like man, I got moved for
a better life. But other than that, it's like, you know, yeah,
I see the kids. I see the kids in school
singing the songs. I mean, everybody still know me for
(06:00):
who I used to be back home. You know, my
family still rip and run through there. So yeah, it's life, man,
We just I'm still not sure.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
The problem though, is sometimes man, they want to keep
reminding you that you are not like you know, they
want little man.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
You get annoying.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
But see, I think the good thing is I don't
talk to nobody, like even from home. And it's not
that I don't it's not nothing personal, but I feel
like at the end of the day, like it ain't
nothing to really talk about, Like we can't really see
people be fifty thirty, forty years old and they don't
got it. They don't got it yet, and I ain't finna.
I don't got time to be teaching nobody how to
(06:37):
live a lifestyle that that's right in front of you.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Could you even tell somebody how to make it? If
somebody ask you right now.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Man, how do you make it to I could hear
a blueprint. But history don't do nothing but repeat itself.
So everything that I'll tell you, you know what I mean,
it's it's the stuff that you could just go out
there and see. Anyways, Like what I'm doing, what I'm
doing right now, is somebody that already did it. Feel
what I'm saying, like, this ain't nothing new that I'm doing.
I'm just doing it in a different way. And that's
what That's what people gotta understand, Like, it's nothing wrong
(07:05):
with it's nothing wrong with studying the game and and
memicking what people do and turning it into your own thing.
Because like, at the end of the day, that's what
the history is. No matter what we do in life,
it's in some way shaping form. It's always somebody who
did it before us. Like there's too many people in
the world. So I feel like at the end of
the day, the thing is just go out there and
(07:25):
be yourself, and you're gonna come to realize yourself and
be yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Right, do you feel a pressure? You know, because you
talk about how all the kids that follow you, do
you feel that pressure of I gotta be a role
model or I gotta be this way because I know
so many young kids I have as fans.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
No, well, it's not really pressure, it's it's for the better.
It's basically like you know, uh, I had to sit
down and realize lifestyle I was living before because like
a lot of people don't know a lot of people
don't know the life. A lot of people don't know
Tusy for real, Like now I ain't even gonna say Toosy.
(08:03):
A lot of people don't know now your like I
make the songs about love, I make the songs for
the women and all that shit. But it's like, in reality,
it's like I'm from the bottom of the bottom. I
feel me Like before I was out here making these
songs about these women's I was out here doing the
same shit your niggas was doing. I was on the
same time, but I had to change it because one
(08:25):
like my son came around, and then two it's like
it wasn't good for me. It was messing up endorsements,
Branddale's like all type of stuff. So stuff was getting
thrown out the window and I just had to tighten
it up at the end of the day. It's like, yeah,
so I feel like it ain't no pressure, it's just
for the better.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And you mentioned before last time you were here before
somebody who's just hearing you for the first time, why
don't you drink or smoke?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Because my my granddad, like well, being an alcoholic run
in my family, you know what I mean, And my
granddad used to drinking smoke, and like when my granddad
got murdered, I had always told myself, like, I ain't
never gonna smoke because it was it's just something that
I don't know. I feel like if I get high,
I'm gonna be moving slow. Alright, told myself, I ain't
(09:10):
never gonna drink or smoke, so I'll try to stay
away from that.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
On this project, it's very like it's just very detailed
and personal. Yeah, I'm actually surprised about a lot of
things that you mentioned, from like living in the van,
you know, taking care of people, being touched, you know
how much you wanted a relationship with your father, you
being a father yourself, Like you really unpacked.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
A lot of real shit.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
And there's a few bars that I wanted to pull
and just kind of have you elaborate on this one's
more like relationship.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
We'll get to the other ones.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
But you said, now I'm getting old, and it feels
better talking about my problems than fucking out yourself. So
it sounds like you went through like a phase with
women and now you're kind of over it, and now
you got a lot.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
That's a good bar. It's a good bar to pull out.
I feel like that won't get skipped a little bit.
I feel like, yeah, like as I'm getting older, you know,
sex school, but I'm I'm mentally drained. I'm at a
point where, like you know, I type I typed, don't
(10:14):
mind talking about my problem or like you ever been
in the club with somebody. I don't know if you
go to the club, but you ever been in the
club with somebody They're supposed to be having a good
time and then you get your you get caught up
in a good conversation. Yeah, man, And it's like I
came here for a different reason, but some somehow, some way,
me and this person just we having a real real
(10:36):
deal conversation about life, especially.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
In the script club.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, Nah, you don't need to be here, there's.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
So many other things.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You get, so many other things you could be doing.
I don't lie, like what made you start this? How
you got here? Like? Nah, I would get deep.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
And you start feeling guilty because you start feeling guilty.
I'm him, though, that boy, I'm him. I'm him. That's
why I don't go to the strip club. I would
I get in there, I start feeling bad for everybody.
Feel I'm trying to save everybody. Nah, it won't be
no good for me. But yeah, I feel like now
now that I'm getting older, it's just certain things that
don't like, don't fulfill.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Me no more.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I love to fucking out your soul, Parker.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That's really what it is, right, Like I always say,
when when we was out here in these streets back
in the nineteen hundreds, like you know, if we were
feeding our ego, that's all it is. Like, you're not
feeding your soul when you're out here just sleeping with
a money TV. Really, and you can't feed the ego.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Your ego got a limitless man, Listen, it's limitless. It's limitless,
especially men with men. Man, we got limiteds egos. So yeah,
I feel like the biggest part is I don't know, man,
I'm getting older.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Man, that's a good thing, just so young.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
You are really young.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, I'm twenty three.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But his mind is getting old. He's thinking differently, which
is the most important thing.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You fucked out man, and ran through too many You
want to slow.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You want to slow that a lot of ship. Man.
You start to get older, though, man, you man that ship.
You start to realize, like.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
The mothers ain't no different for all y'all the same,
y'all are gonna turn up for a different nigga. Y'all
all gonna different when a different nigga come around. Yeah, all, y'all,
y'all are just.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
Okay, go ahead, y'all personally attacked.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
I don't like that. Not everybody is the same. Maybe
everybody you're around.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
And the same, but it's always one nigga in this
world that's gonna make y'all, that's gonna make that get
youall butterflies in your stomach. All type of ships gonna
turn all that ship around.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, yes, sir, No sir, it's the nigga in the
world turned all that ship around. Man.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I think you treat you like man. Nigga who the
fuck is you talking about? What you're talking to that nigga?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Come around, Yes, sir, say that because at the end
of the day's true, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's about you.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Feel me like. And the thing is, it's like, I don't.
I don't seen it.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
It's the same for men as well. You guys deal
with a certain type of women. You might trick off
more on this woman than you do with another woman.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I think it's just.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
It's worth it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Let me, let me tell you it's tricking.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Let me tell you, Let me tell you, let me
tell you, let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The difference between men and women. Y'all have standards. We
don't give. We don't have.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
That's nasty, and you should.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's the three year old.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Understand if they tell you.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Some of the stories these niggas, ain't you listen, I
got standards. But like the thing is, when I was
young out here, like I ain't discriminate.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Big small, act white.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I told you, if I like you, I like you, nasty.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Put that man.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Yeah, it's like, man, don't we don't really like see y'all.
Hold That's why it's like when it comes to women,
and y'all like and a woman sucking around y'all actually,
and I hate when women try to act like this
is not true.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Y'all actually have to y'all actually have to have feelings
for a nigga in order to cheat.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
I say this, I say this, don't.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Feelings for a nigga to cheat, yo, will We don't
gotta have feelings for no female for us ego women.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Emo. That's what.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That's what.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
That's what hurts men so much.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
That I agree emotions, emotion, but that's what hurts men
so much because I'm like, this man got into your head,
this man you like, you gotta.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Like this man.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Yo, Listen, I'm telling you, y'all be liking niggas like real,
we don't be liking these girls. We just yeah, I mean,
we don't be liking these girls. We just do it
just because yo. And then it's like, after you get
it off.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
We feel depressed, guilty, said you don't think that.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Happens to women? Also? Ready we ever felt bad?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They are ready to go on a day. I mean
you like dayDay? Now you texting day? They like good morning? Nah?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Were not texting no good morning, no, none of that.
After that it's over what you might.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Never hear from. It's like a gender war.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Just saying it's real life.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
No, but it's just.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
You just got to find people and meet them where
they're at. Like it sounds like the people that you
meeting are just not in a good space.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Man. Listen, ain't nobody in a good space.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
We are in a great place.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
The whole world messed up. I mean, what's a good
space today? It wasn't a good space yesterday.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You know what.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
I'll say this because this is one of the questions
based off your lyrics, because you're like, yo, what the
fuck is love anyway? One of the questions is gonna
ask you is what is love to you now? Because
at the end of the day, you have to experience.
You have to experience it in order to really figure
out what it is.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Love is.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Love is when you you will put somebody on a pedestal,
you put somebody before you. I feel like that's when
you know you love a person. You will put whatever
they have going on in front of you to make
them happy, even if it will make you happy. I
feel like that's what that's what love is. I don't
know if that's what love is everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
The reason I say that because the conversation we just
had with Von Franklin, he's a pastor, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
He was saying, how like, you know you guy.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's like you got to be whole within yourself and
the other person has to be whole within yourself, Like
that person can't complete you putting them on a pedestal
and it's not gonna make you like you shouldn't. If
it don't make you feel better, then it's really not
the best thing for you. And you said you got
to do it in order what you say, I gotta
put it on a pedestal.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Like putting putting a person before yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, I don't think that's the it's supposed to work.
I used to think that, but I don't think.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
That's part love.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Though.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Maybe I gotta learned, that's Paul.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I think.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Maybe I think what you're trying to say is just
the willingness to compromise.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
I think, but I feel like I feel like I
feel like even with love, though man like nobody would
never find out the definition like man, you you would
never know because everybody, everybody has their own outlook.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But you would put your wife before you, and I'm
sure you have many times, millyon times.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's love.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
That's that's part of it. That's that's part of it.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, that's man.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Now I'm trying to make sure that's all I got
on that love.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Because have you found love before?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Your head up?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Messed you up?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You sitting there thinking about everything?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Would not you know? It's up? Man?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
You found before? You think you found love before? Have
you ever been in love?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah? Yeah, hell yeah? I love my baby, Mama.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
I don't want do you think you're going to be
able to be like a family unit?
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
So she moved on.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You wouldn't have a promise, ain't I'm moving on, you
said in the record.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
She does as long as you treat her right. You're
okay with that.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Entertainment business.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
That the way you were feeling at the time.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
I won't feel man, live man, and I'm moving on man.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
That was very big Marrio. Yes, okay, yeah, man, we
already married the Bible. That's what the Bible.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Said through the Bible ring. I just don't know what fingers.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
That's not the wrong one, okay, okay, no promise.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Let me clarify that.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
What's the promise? You promise to keep your dick to yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
On the road.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Promise you know, I can't tell you about You'll be
living me crazy, you know, I mean? But no, Yeah,
ain't not moving on.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Don't know. I don't even know what.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
It's a nice record.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, I appreciate it. I lie about that point though.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Got you Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well, God, you got a boyfriend.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
I got you, gotta thing I got.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, she ain't never think nobody was gonna ask you that.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Qu Now that about you?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
We might cut this out.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
You got a boyfriend, I asked the question.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Wow, I just want I just want to make sure.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
I want to make I'm not the only one.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Listen, Hey, real life, real love, real.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Life, real love, great book.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Make sure make sure y'all go get it.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
But so, I really like God loves me.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
But you have a line on here where you say
I don't think I'm better than no one.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
I think we're equal. Do you really feel like you're
equal with everybody?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
Because you look, you're young, you're making a lot of money,
you have a lot of success, Like, yeah, do you
really feel like that?
Speaker 7 (20:22):
And if that's the case, how do you stay home?
Speaker 6 (20:23):
I feel like I feel like everybody successful in their
own way, and I can never do what you do.
I can never do what he do, or I can
never do what he do. We all our own people.
So I feel like in the sense and in the
way we all we all equal. You get what I'm saying.
I'm good at what I do, You good at what
you do. That don't make me no better than you.
I feel like a lot of people get blinded by
the light in a position that artists are in, or
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athletes and just all these people that's in the entertainment business.
I think they get blinded by the fact that you know,
like you see how invested people be in our lifestyle,
like and it's like, why do you care? You only
care because I'm where I'm at. But if this happens,
because the stuff that happened with us is the stuff
that happened every day, you know. I mean, niggas cheat,
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niggas lie, they get into fights with their girls heaven
every day. But it's an image painted when people like
us do it. That's an entertainment business. And I think
I think, I don't know, I just feel like we
are equal. It ain't no, ain't none of us.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
No different, You're one hundred pers incorrect, like we're not
our things. Like, show me the person that can't get sick,
show me the person that can't die, and I'll be
like that person ain't like us. He's not equal.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Not worry, he's he's immortal. Whoever that is, he's immortal.
But I feel like other than that, we all we
are the same.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Man. I sneeze, like y'all sneeze. I mean whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That's why you treat everybody with the certis fact. I
always say, I judge people based off I judge you
based off how you treat people that can't do nothing
for you. You know what I mean, Because if you
don't treat the custodia in the same way you treat
the CEO, you ain't the type of person I.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Want to work where the custodian more than the CEO.
That's right, stuff. I had a lot of people like that.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Yeah all right, So in Villains and Heroes, I like
the concept of the record, like this just.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Like a personal interview. Yeah, it's like me and you,
let's do it.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
So I like the concept of the record, But in
the intro I'm a little confused by it because it says,
you know, a wise thing somebody told me was everybody
hates the villain because the villain sacrificed the world to
save one person, and the hero would sacrifice one person
to save the world.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
So does that mean the villain is right? Like are
you paying the picture? As in, like the villain isn't
so bad, I'm paying.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
The picture picture as in, uh, I may be the
villain in somebody else's story, but her story, I might
be the hero, you know, So sometimes being a villain
ain't a bad thing, you know. So, like just to
break it down, they say everyone hates the villain because
if you think about the villain, it's always a reason
as to why they're a villain, and it's.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Often behind love or not feeling filling love.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
And the thing is, they always, no matter what happened,
it's always like they want one thing back or one
person back. And with the villain, it's like everybody hate
the villain because the villain of sacrifice the world to
save one thing or one person, or with the hero
it's often like they'll let somebody die or let something
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happen to somebody to save the world. And in reality,
it's like, all right, who's really the villain, because if
you're fucking let me die, you're the villain in my story.
But to everybody else, you might be a hero. Now
with you, it's like I might be the hero in
your story because at the end of the day, I
don't forget everything that everybody else got going on in
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your story. I want to save you, and that's all
it's about. Some don't mind being a villain in in
somebody else story to be your hero. So yeah, I
feel like that's what it was, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I watch a lot of Marvel movies and you can
never really tell who the bad guy. You don't know
if Than knows was a hero or villain because what
he actually wanted to do, Yeah, was going to help
with the planet. Yeah, he just had to get rid
of half of the population.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
And then and then and then and then he had
the thing with his daughter, Like yeah, it's like all
of that ship.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
It's deep.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
But you never you never know what what are you
truly like? Are you a feeling or are you a hero?
Or or it's either like most better than started office heroes.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I mean, so I killed get Black panther yell mango
like I got to kill black pants because I need
to be the king so I can get all these
resources to go help black people all around.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
The word exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Guys leaving the second got another. It was laid on him.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Get let's get through some of these balls.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I like this.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Okay, this is my last one. Then I'll leave it alone.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
I know you got Willow on the interlude will.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Back.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
You got Wallow And I love that he's on there
because I like the little motivation state he's given because
it applies whether you're going through hardship.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
And love, work, career, whatever it may be.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
But it is when you really talked about how you
kind of like being for your relationship with your father.
I just wanted to know, like, what is your relationship
with your father like, and how are you implementing like
what you liked or didn't like?
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Oh, that's that's that's my nigga, Like that's my that's
my best friend here, a good person. And he when
I when I turned that's why I had moved to
South Carolina with my dad, was living in Goose Creek
when I got a certain age. You know, he moved
on his own my mom came and got me and
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we just you know, it was some.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Years where we really ain't had no relationship.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
But at the end of the day, if I ever
really needed him, I know he always there, so like
no matter what, Like that's why, like for some reason
with me, it's like, and I just had this conversation
with somebody the other day when it comes to blood,
like a certain type of blood, because blood, like when
it come to blood, you got friends, and then you
got friends that you treat like blood.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
But I don't lie.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
I got some blood that I could never like love
the same way that I love my friends like And
what I mean by that is like my brothers and sisters.
I love my friends to death, and I look at
them like brothers and sisters or my actual brothers and.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Sisters, like my mom kids.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
We've been together so long, I can't look at I
don't see how people look at their friends the same
way that they do their blood, Like I could never
do that, you know what I mean. So I feel
like when it comes to like my dad and all
of them, like it's a special love, like no matter
what they do to me, I'm always gonna love him.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I definitely got friends. I treat like more family than
my head blood.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
I won't lie bro my brothers and sisters. I don't know,
I just can't. Like we don't been through too much.
I'm talking about full on family family versus family fights,
like like real bottom at the bottom. I raised my
sister kids while she was in prison for three years.
My brother go to jail, we raising his kids. My
my my brother and sister go to jail at one time.
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Then now it's like it's me, my older brother, and
my sister and my mom and were trying to figure
it out every day. Okay, then you know Christmas time
come around. My sister used to boost. I used to
I ain't never used to go out go without. My
sister was a booster killing what killing rything?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Give a tissue show.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Oh but yeah, now like my sister, my sister was
a booster or whatever. So like I ain't never used
to go without for a real So that was like,
I don't know, it's a special mind or like.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
How close y'all in age?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I'm twenty three, twenty three. I think it's twenty three,
twenty six, twenty seven, twenty three, twenty six twenty seven,
thirty and thirty two.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, it's always like y'all all kind of in the
same aime.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Brack here my boy, then my don't fucking around.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
I like hearing you talk about your dad because I
feel like a lot of times culturally, we kind of
underestimate the impact of a day.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Got y'all gotta meet him, man, next interview. Man, I'm
gonna bring him in here. He might he around coming
here and like some cool G jeans.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Or something cool jeans. You gotta you gotta watch watch
the o gs like that, right. The reason why is
they from a different eraror and they just say wild stuff,
you know, like me.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
And Charlama would never bring our dad.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
Would be great.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I'm gonna sell your text he sent me. They ain't
gonna tell you what, just let him say. I'm just
gonna let he sent me. He told me he sent
me a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Hold home.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
My dad, I swear it. Why his mouth like that
exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
That's the reason why that's wild.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I killed it.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
My don't play, you know, with jeans with holes in
him like he don't.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Play that word.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Different era I would like my dad different man, my dad.
I don't like my dad still think he like like
g it like word, I was a lot my dad.
You know my dad. Throw it off though, real my
dad a relationship or did you have to get that's
my nigga, Like okay, okay, that's my nigga, Like, oh yeah,
I don't play pops.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
So you've had you have a close knit family, but
I know you mentioned being molested. Was that within the
family or if you don't want to talk about it, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Okay, No, it was. It wasn't really it was like
said like like me.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
It was being a young nigga like me, uh, dealing
with an older woman and at the time not knowing
it was wrong until I got older.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Charlamagne tell your history because he was that with a
similar situation.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Exactly eight years old getting touched on about older woman.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Thought it was okay.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Actually I made her stop because I didn't like to
smell her Jerry Crow. But I realized when I was funny.
But it's true, it's true. And when I was young,
I used to remember those little things used to throw,
the firecrafts that.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Used to pop.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, at one point I just started throwing it at it,
like leave me alone. But I realized it was my
body rejecting it, realizing like, yo, this ain't supposed to
be doing this, right, But in my mind it was
I didn't like the smell of her Jerry, and I
didn't realize that like I got weird or actually.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
When I turned eighteen, I was I was like in
my twenties.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
When I turned eighteen, that was when I like I
found out like like I wasn't even supposed to be
doing that, like what I was doing, but like.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
It's so it's so weird because it's not like it's
not like.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I didn't like it. I was just.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Lord, no, I ain't even like that, but you're saying it.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Because like that's like that was like that was like
the little Kevin Hart damn ship Lord.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's confusing. It's confusing because you do like it, but
then you.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Like the same. Right, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Let's let's get into a song off them. I know
you got to go do another interview.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Did you have a confronted person?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Did you?
Speaker 7 (31:01):
I didn't want to.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
No, No, last I don't because I mean, I mean,
God gonna deal with that, like I ain't.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
No, I ain't.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Hey she did it, Like, we're not gonna do that
because God gonna handle it.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
But it's a pretty common thing.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Like you don't want anybody to do that to your son,
do that to another family member.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
No, no, never, I would never want that to happen.
But I just something to keep yourself. Yeah, so's so I.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Think we got.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I don't want it to become a big thing.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
And we got to change our approach to it.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Because even back then, you know, you you tell somebody
wh was with the older woman, they cheer you.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
They like it.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, I mean you don't like it, like especially for
a man. I mean for a woman, that's wrong. But
with a man, it's like they look at it like
all right, good job.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's why I said, we got change our approach. We
got our young sons. I don't have any sons. I
got the all daughters. But like that's not right, that's
not right. It was a big hold to.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Got four daughters.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
And you guys need to treat yourselves with the same
standards that women are expected to treat themselves with. Yeah,
who practice that?
Speaker 7 (32:03):
That's that all of you? You know me, you guys
are doing great.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Now, thank you, thank you, I got, I gotledge.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Heeple talking about past.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Let's get into song. Whatch you want?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You have the album U. Let's hear another love song, man.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Another love song. We appreciate you for joining us. Pick
up his new album Don't See It's The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Good morning,
Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everybody is j n V.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
Charlamage the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Of course,
we have DJ.
Speaker 4 (00:05):
Nalla, Nola, Simona.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Pill and we got a special guest in the building, a.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Lot more money than we've seen them last time.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I got a lot more money, a lot more money,
a lot more ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Welcome brother. How you feeling.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm feeling good Man album album doing well?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (00:21):
Yeah man, we we we We're going crazy right now.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Your yeah, was that something backwards?
Speaker 6 (00:27):
Noah, that's my real name.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, that's my real name.
Speaker 6 (00:33):
So I always told myself, like when I when I
dropped my debut album, it's gonna be your.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Self titled album.
Speaker 7 (00:38):
Is that like French? Yeah, it is, it is, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Love and friendship?
Speaker 7 (00:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I always wonder what is the debut album nowadays? Because
you've been you've been out here for a minute. We
have heard a lot of music, a.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Lot of EPs, all types of records.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Like how do you know when it's.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Time to be a different rollout? You know what I
mean with the debut album?
Speaker 6 (00:57):
Like we treat everything like an album, but it's a
different roll out.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's a different process.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, we see six label people today, So that's how
you know the difference.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
To Donald up here? You know it must be something different.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Don't come outside?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah yeah, So is this album like a twosy verse
your your government?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Name?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Is that the play on it?
Speaker 6 (01:19):
It's not really a toy versus your It's more so
like this is this is who yours?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You know?
Speaker 6 (01:25):
Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of who Tousy is.
But through the music, I'm gonna tell my story. So
if you go just skim through the album, it'll be
stories of my life. It's stories of my life all
throughout the album.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
So you know what your name actually means?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I love and friends.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
What I tell you, I tell you don't listen?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You heard me, right?
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I type blame all of y'all though, because bro, this
is crazy waking up at none in the morning.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I swear I heard that, but I definitely heard you
if it was friend dream man, I was looking at
your jewey for a second ship.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
The ship you're saying, fake, Yeah, man, when he last
you didn't have to Yeah, when he.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Put the little that ship with viral too, that ship
was that ship was So.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
He's probably looking for the Diamond checking out back from.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I was working with him, because yeah, he was acting
like it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'm like, ship, you had a great first week with
with your said, does you care about first week sales
since you have such a strong.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Fanas Honestly, no, because it don't matter when something when
something catch off the album, you get what I'm saying,
like it could catch off the album a year from now,
and as long as it catch that's that's how that mattered.
Like I feel like, I mean, man, let's saying it's
generations with the music man. Sooner or later, the Knicks
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that's on top ain't gonna be on top. They gotta
be somebody that come after them, and I ain't. I'm
not in no rush to get nowhere that I already
know I'm gonna be at, so like who the story
already wrote, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Tripping on none of that.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
How does it feel to have your dream actually fulfilled?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Think about when you know you first met Arnold and
he's telling you these things, and I know you got
your own things that you believe, but now it's like, damn, man.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's a blessing.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Bro, It's a blessing, And I'm just happy to be
where I'm at, But at the same time, I'm blessed
to have the drive that I got because I'm wanting
to do a lot of things that other artists are
not willing to do. I'm hungry, I'm humble, I'm confident.
But in all I'm a good person and good things
come to good people. So I feel like that's the
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biggest thing my personality go a long way.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
How's the city taking you in?
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Man like hometown? Yeah, it's cool, you feel me like
it's always love. I don't really, I ain't no outside person.
I don't drink, I don't smoke our own party, own that.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I ain't into that because that's one of the hardest
I would say. You know, it's when people are not
from New York City, those five boroughs, it's always like
it's it's even harder for them to break because a
lot of people don't accept the fact that it is.
So I know you had to deal with that a lot.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Yeah, No, it was death like like coming from upstate,
Man like, it ain't no, it ain't no luck, HU
feel me. But at the end of the day, it's
like so what like people see see the problem is
people get boxed in and they start to feel like,
you know, where they're at is the only thing that's
in the world. They try to become, you know, famous
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in their hometown before they become famous everywhere else. And
I took a different route. I'm like, I'm gonna travel
the world and I'm gonna gett known in all these
other places to where it make it make my name
look bigger and everybody at home gotta respect me. So
like that was the route I took. I mean from there,
we just we've been killing it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
But do you feel a love back home because you
know you your hometoime favorite. Yeah, it's not too many
artists from your hometown, so it's like you are it.
So do you see the love when you walk in
and the kids was like I want to be him,
and the old teachers call him like I remember you.
Are you feeling that type of love because you deserve it?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Always, always, especially like in my hometown home song, Like
in Syracuse, it's like, man, I'm besides post malone or
post malone over he don't only claims Syracuse.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Post Maloney from Syracuse had I had no idea posting
Milwaukee like Orion.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I never do that.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Yeah, he bore he was more than Syracuse and then
he I guess he moved to Texas like right after
he was born. Like me is like I was there
for a few years, Like man, I got moved for
a better life. But other than that, it's like, you know, yeah,
I see the kids. I see the kids in school
singing the songs. I mean, everybody still know me for
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who I used to be back home. You know, my
family still rip and run through there. So yeah, it's life, man,
We just I'm still not sure.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
The problem though, is sometimes man, they want to keep
reminding you that you are not like you know, they
want little man.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
You get annoying.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
But see, I think the good thing is I don't
talk to nobody, like even from home. And it's not
that I don't it's not nothing personal, but I feel
like at the end of the day, like it ain't
nothing to really talk about, Like we can't really see
people be fifty thirty, forty years old and they don't
got it. They don't got it yet, and I ain't finna.
I don't got time to be teaching nobody how to
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live a lifestyle that that's right in front of you.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Could you even tell somebody how to make it? If
somebody ask you right now.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Man, how do you make it to I could hear
a blueprint. But history don't do nothing but repeat itself.
So everything that I'll tell you, you know what I mean,
it's it's the stuff that you could just go out
there and see. Anyways, Like what I'm doing, what I'm
doing right now, is somebody that already did it. Feel
what I'm saying, like, this ain't nothing new that I'm doing.
I'm just doing it in a different way. And that's
what That's what people gotta understand, Like, it's nothing wrong
(07:05):
with it's nothing wrong with studying the game and and
memicking what people do and turning it into your own thing.
Because like, at the end of the day, that's what
the history is. No matter what we do in life,
it's in some way shaping form. It's always somebody who
did it before us. Like there's too many people in
the world. So I feel like at the end of
the day, the thing is just go out there and
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be yourself, and you're gonna come to realize yourself and
be yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Right, do you feel a pressure? You know, because you
talk about how all the kids that follow you, do
you feel that pressure of I gotta be a role
model or I gotta be this way because I know
so many young kids I have as fans.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
No, well, it's not really pressure, it's it's for the better.
It's basically like you know, uh, I had to sit
down and realize lifestyle I was living before because like
a lot of people don't know a lot of people
don't know the life. A lot of people don't know
Tusy for real, Like now I ain't even gonna say Toosy.
(08:03):
A lot of people don't know now your like I
make the songs about love, I make the songs for
the women and all that shit. But it's like, in reality,
it's like I'm from the bottom of the bottom. I
feel me Like before I was out here making these
songs about these women's I was out here doing the
same shit your niggas was doing. I was on the
same time, but I had to change it because one
(08:25):
like my son came around, and then two it's like
it wasn't good for me. It was messing up endorsements,
Branddale's like all type of stuff. So stuff was getting
thrown out the window and I just had to tighten
it up at the end of the day. It's like, yeah,
so I feel like it ain't no pressure, it's just
for the better.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And you mentioned before last time you were here before
somebody who's just hearing you for the first time, why
don't you drink or smoke?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Because my my granddad, like well, being an alcoholic run
in my family, you know what I mean, And my
granddad used to drinking smoke, and like when my granddad
got murdered, I had always told myself, like, I ain't
never gonna smoke because it was it's just something that
I don't know. I feel like if I get high,
I'm gonna be moving slow. Alright, told myself, I ain't
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never gonna drink or smoke, so I'll try to stay
away from that.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
On this project, it's very like it's just very detailed
and personal. Yeah, I'm actually surprised about a lot of
things that you mentioned, from like living in the van,
you know, taking care of people, being touched, you know
how much you wanted a relationship with your father, you
being a father yourself, Like you really unpacked.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
A lot of real shit.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
And there's a few bars that I wanted to pull
and just kind of have you elaborate on this one's
more like relationship.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
We'll get to the other ones.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
But you said, now I'm getting old, and it feels
better talking about my problems than fucking out yourself. So
it sounds like you went through like a phase with
women and now you're kind of over it, and now
you got a lot.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
That's a good bar. It's a good bar to pull out.
I feel like that won't get skipped a little bit.
I feel like, yeah, like as I'm getting older, you know,
sex school, but I'm I'm mentally drained. I'm at a
point where, like you know, I type I typed, don't
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mind talking about my problem or like you ever been
in the club with somebody. I don't know if you
go to the club, but you ever been in the
club with somebody They're supposed to be having a good
time and then you get your you get caught up
in a good conversation. Yeah, man, And it's like I
came here for a different reason, but some somehow, some way,
me and this person just we having a real real
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deal conversation about life, especially.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
In the script club.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, Nah, you don't need to be here, there's.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
So many other things.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You get, so many other things you could be doing.
I don't lie, like what made you start this? How
you got here? Like? Nah, I would get deep.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
And you start feeling guilty because you start feeling guilty.
I'm him, though, that boy, I'm him. I'm him. That's
why I don't go to the strip club. I would
I get in there, I start feeling bad for everybody.
Feel I'm trying to save everybody. Nah, it won't be
no good for me. But yeah, I feel like now
now that I'm getting older, it's just certain things that
don't like, don't fulfill.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Me no more.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I love to fucking out your soul, Parker.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That's really what it is, right, Like I always say,
when when we was out here in these streets back
in the nineteen hundreds, like you know, if we were
feeding our ego, that's all it is. Like, you're not
feeding your soul when you're out here just sleeping with
a money TV. Really, and you can't feed the ego.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Your ego got a limitless man, Listen, it's limitless. It's limitless,
especially men with men. Man, we got limiteds egos. So yeah,
I feel like the biggest part is I don't know, man,
I'm getting older.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Man, that's a good thing, just so young.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
You are really young.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, I'm twenty three.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But his mind is getting old. He's thinking differently, which
is the most important thing.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You fucked out man, and ran through too many You
want to slow.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You want to slow that a lot of ship. Man.
You start to get older, though, man, you man that ship.
You start to realize, like.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
The mothers ain't no different for all y'all the same,
y'all are gonna turn up for a different nigga. Y'all
all gonna different when a different nigga come around. Yeah, all, y'all,
y'all are just.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
Okay, go ahead, y'all personally attacked.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
I don't like that. Not everybody is the same. Maybe
everybody you're around.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
And the same, but it's always one nigga in this
world that's gonna make y'all, that's gonna make that get
youall butterflies in your stomach. All type of ships gonna
turn all that ship around.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, yes, sir, No sir, it's the nigga in the
world turned all that ship around. Man.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I think you treat you like man. Nigga who the
fuck is you talking about? What you're talking to that nigga?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Come around, Yes, sir, say that because at the end
of the day's true, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's about you.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Feel me like. And the thing is, it's like, I don't.
I don't seen it.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
It's the same for men as well. You guys deal
with a certain type of women. You might trick off
more on this woman than you do with another woman.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I think it's just.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
It's worth it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Let me, let me tell you it's tricking.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Let me tell you, Let me tell you, let me
tell you, let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The difference between men and women. Y'all have standards. We
don't give. We don't have.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
That's nasty, and you should.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's the three year old.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Understand if they tell you.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Some of the stories these niggas, ain't you listen, I
got standards. But like the thing is, when I was
young out here, like I ain't discriminate.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Big small, act white.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I told you, if I like you, I like you, nasty.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Put that man.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Yeah, it's like, man, don't we don't really like see y'all.
Hold That's why it's like when it comes to women,
and y'all like and a woman sucking around y'all actually,
and I hate when women try to act like this
is not true.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Y'all actually have to y'all actually have to have feelings
for a nigga in order to cheat.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
I say this, I say this, don't.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Feelings for a nigga to cheat, yo, will We don't
gotta have feelings for no female for us ego women.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Emo. That's what.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That's what.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
That's what hurts men so much.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
That I agree emotions, emotion, but that's what hurts men
so much because I'm like, this man got into your head,
this man you like, you gotta.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Like this man.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Yo, Listen, I'm telling you, y'all be liking niggas like real,
we don't be liking these girls. We just yeah, I mean,
we don't be liking these girls. We just do it
just because yo. And then it's like, after you get
it off.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
We feel depressed, guilty, said you don't think that.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Happens to women? Also? Ready we ever felt bad?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They are ready to go on a day. I mean
you like dayDay? Now you texting day? They like good morning? Nah?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Were not texting no good morning, no, none of that.
After that it's over what you might.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Never hear from. It's like a gender war.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Just saying it's real life.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
No, but it's just.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
You just got to find people and meet them where
they're at. Like it sounds like the people that you
meeting are just not in a good space.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Man. Listen, ain't nobody in a good space.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
We are in a great place.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
The whole world messed up. I mean, what's a good
space today? It wasn't a good space yesterday.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You know what.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
I'll say this because this is one of the questions
based off your lyrics, because you're like, yo, what the
fuck is love anyway? One of the questions is gonna
ask you is what is love to you now? Because
at the end of the day, you have to experience.
You have to experience it in order to really figure
out what it is.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Love is.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Love is when you you will put somebody on a pedestal,
you put somebody before you. I feel like that's when
you know you love a person. You will put whatever
they have going on in front of you to make
them happy, even if it will make you happy. I
feel like that's what that's what love is. I don't
know if that's what love is everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
The reason I say that because the conversation we just
had with Von Franklin, he's a pastor, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
He was saying, how like, you know you guy.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's like you got to be whole within yourself and
the other person has to be whole within yourself, Like
that person can't complete you putting them on a pedestal
and it's not gonna make you like you shouldn't. If
it don't make you feel better, then it's really not
the best thing for you. And you said you got
to do it in order what you say, I gotta
put it on a pedestal.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Like putting putting a person before yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, I don't think that's the it's supposed to work.
I used to think that, but I don't think.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
That's part love.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Though.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Maybe I gotta learned, that's Paul.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I think.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Maybe I think what you're trying to say is just
the willingness to compromise.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
I think, but I feel like I feel like I
feel like even with love, though man like nobody would
never find out the definition like man, you you would
never know because everybody, everybody has their own outlook.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But you would put your wife before you, and I'm
sure you have many times, millyon times.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's love.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
That's that's part of it. That's that's part of it.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, that's man.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Now I'm trying to make sure that's all I got
on that love.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Because have you found love before?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Your head up?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Messed you up?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You sitting there thinking about everything?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Would not you know? It's up? Man?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
You found before? You think you found love before? Have
you ever been in love?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah? Yeah, hell yeah? I love my baby, Mama.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
I don't want do you think you're going to be
able to be like a family unit?
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
So she moved on.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You wouldn't have a promise, ain't I'm moving on, you
said in the record.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
She does as long as you treat her right. You're
okay with that.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Entertainment business.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
That the way you were feeling at the time.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
I won't feel man, live man, and I'm moving on man.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
That was very big Marrio. Yes, okay, yeah, man, we
already married the Bible. That's what the Bible.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Said through the Bible ring. I just don't know what fingers.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
That's not the wrong one, okay, okay, no promise.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Let me clarify that.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
What's the promise? You promise to keep your dick to yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
On the road.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Promise you know, I can't tell you about You'll be
living me crazy, you know, I mean? But no, Yeah,
ain't not moving on.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Don't know. I don't even know what.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
It's a nice record.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, I appreciate it. I lie about that point though.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Got you Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well, God, you got a boyfriend.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
I got you, gotta thing I got.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, she ain't never think nobody was gonna ask you that.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Qu Now that about you?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
We might cut this out.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
You got a boyfriend, I asked the question.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Wow, I just want I just want to make sure.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
I want to make I'm not the only one.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Listen, Hey, real life, real love, real.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Life, real love, great book.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Make sure make sure y'all go get it.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
But so, I really like God loves me.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
But you have a line on here where you say
I don't think I'm better than no one.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
I think we're equal. Do you really feel like you're
equal with everybody?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
Because you look, you're young, you're making a lot of money,
you have a lot of success, Like, yeah, do you
really feel like that?
Speaker 7 (20:22):
And if that's the case, how do you stay home?
Speaker 6 (20:23):
I feel like I feel like everybody successful in their
own way, and I can never do what you do.
I can never do what he do, or I can
never do what he do. We all our own people.
So I feel like in the sense and in the
way we all we all equal. You get what I'm saying.
I'm good at what I do, You good at what
you do. That don't make me no better than you.
I feel like a lot of people get blinded by
the light in a position that artists are in, or
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athletes and just all these people that's in the entertainment business.
I think they get blinded by the fact that you know,
like you see how invested people be in our lifestyle,
like and it's like, why do you care? You only
care because I'm where I'm at. But if this happens,
because the stuff that happened with us is the stuff
that happened every day, you know. I mean, niggas cheat,
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niggas lie, they get into fights with their girls heaven
every day. But it's an image painted when people like
us do it. That's an entertainment business. And I think
I think, I don't know, I just feel like we
are equal. It ain't no, ain't none of us.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
No different, You're one hundred pers incorrect, like we're not
our things. Like, show me the person that can't get sick,
show me the person that can't die, and I'll be
like that person ain't like us. He's not equal.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Not worry, he's he's immortal. Whoever that is, he's immortal.
But I feel like other than that, we all we
are the same.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Man. I sneeze, like y'all sneeze. I mean whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That's why you treat everybody with the certis fact. I
always say, I judge people based off I judge you
based off how you treat people that can't do nothing
for you. You know what I mean, Because if you
don't treat the custodia in the same way you treat
the CEO, you ain't the type of person I.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Want to work where the custodian more than the CEO.
That's right, stuff. I had a lot of people like that.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Yeah all right, So in Villains and Heroes, I like
the concept of the record, like this just.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Like a personal interview. Yeah, it's like me and you,
let's do it.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
So I like the concept of the record, But in
the intro I'm a little confused by it because it says,
you know, a wise thing somebody told me was everybody
hates the villain because the villain sacrificed the world to
save one person, and the hero would sacrifice one person
to save the world.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
So does that mean the villain is right? Like are
you paying the picture? As in, like the villain isn't
so bad, I'm paying.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
The picture picture as in, uh, I may be the
villain in somebody else's story, but her story, I might
be the hero, you know, So sometimes being a villain
ain't a bad thing, you know. So, like just to
break it down, they say everyone hates the villain because
if you think about the villain, it's always a reason
as to why they're a villain, and it's.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Often behind love or not feeling filling love.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
And the thing is, they always, no matter what happened,
it's always like they want one thing back or one
person back. And with the villain, it's like everybody hate
the villain because the villain of sacrifice the world to
save one thing or one person, or with the hero
it's often like they'll let somebody die or let something
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happen to somebody to save the world. And in reality,
it's like, all right, who's really the villain, because if
you're fucking let me die, you're the villain in my story.
But to everybody else, you might be a hero. Now
with you, it's like I might be the hero in
your story because at the end of the day, I
don't forget everything that everybody else got going on in
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your story. I want to save you, and that's all
it's about. Some don't mind being a villain in in
somebody else story to be your hero. So yeah, I
feel like that's what it was, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I watch a lot of Marvel movies and you can
never really tell who the bad guy. You don't know
if Than knows was a hero or villain because what
he actually wanted to do, Yeah, was going to help
with the planet. Yeah, he just had to get rid
of half of the population.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
And then and then and then and then he had
the thing with his daughter, Like yeah, it's like all
of that ship.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
It's deep.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
But you never you never know what what are you
truly like? Are you a feeling or are you a hero?
Or or it's either like most better than started office heroes.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I mean, so I killed get Black panther yell mango
like I got to kill black pants because I need
to be the king so I can get all these
resources to go help black people all around.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
The word exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Guys leaving the second got another. It was laid on him.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Get let's get through some of these balls.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I like this.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Okay, this is my last one. Then I'll leave it alone.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
I know you got Willow on the interlude will.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Back.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
You got Wallow And I love that he's on there
because I like the little motivation state he's given because
it applies whether you're going through hardship.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
And love, work, career, whatever it may be.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
But it is when you really talked about how you
kind of like being for your relationship with your father.
I just wanted to know, like, what is your relationship
with your father like, and how are you implementing like
what you liked or didn't like?
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Oh, that's that's that's my nigga, Like that's my that's
my best friend here, a good person. And he when
I when I turned that's why I had moved to
South Carolina with my dad, was living in Goose Creek
when I got a certain age. You know, he moved
on his own my mom came and got me and
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we just you know, it was some.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Years where we really ain't had no relationship.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
But at the end of the day, if I ever
really needed him, I know he always there, so like
no matter what, Like that's why, like for some reason
with me, it's like, and I just had this conversation
with somebody the other day when it comes to blood,
like a certain type of blood, because blood, like when
it come to blood, you got friends, and then you
got friends that you treat like blood.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
But I don't lie.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
I got some blood that I could never like love
the same way that I love my friends like And
what I mean by that is like my brothers and sisters.
I love my friends to death, and I look at
them like brothers and sisters or my actual brothers and.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Sisters, like my mom kids.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
We've been together so long, I can't look at I
don't see how people look at their friends the same
way that they do their blood, Like I could never
do that, you know what I mean. So I feel
like when it comes to like my dad and all
of them, like it's a special love, like no matter
what they do to me, I'm always gonna love him.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I definitely got friends. I treat like more family than
my head blood.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
I won't lie bro my brothers and sisters. I don't know,
I just can't. Like we don't been through too much.
I'm talking about full on family family versus family fights,
like like real bottom at the bottom. I raised my
sister kids while she was in prison for three years.
My brother go to jail, we raising his kids. My
my my brother and sister go to jail at one time.
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Then now it's like it's me, my older brother, and
my sister and my mom and were trying to figure
it out every day. Okay, then you know Christmas time
come around. My sister used to boost. I used to
I ain't never used to go out go without. My
sister was a booster killing what killing rything?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Give a tissue show.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Oh but yeah, now like my sister, my sister was
a booster or whatever. So like I ain't never used
to go without for a real So that was like,
I don't know, it's a special mind or like.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
How close y'all in age?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I'm twenty three, twenty three. I think it's twenty three,
twenty six, twenty seven, twenty three, twenty six twenty seven,
thirty and thirty two.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, it's always like y'all all kind of in the
same aime.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Brack here my boy, then my don't fucking around.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
I like hearing you talk about your dad because I
feel like a lot of times culturally, we kind of
underestimate the impact of a day.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Got y'all gotta meet him, man, next interview. Man, I'm
gonna bring him in here. He might he around coming
here and like some cool G jeans.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Or something cool jeans. You gotta you gotta watch watch
the o gs like that, right. The reason why is
they from a different eraror and they just say wild stuff,
you know, like me.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
And Charlama would never bring our dad.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
Would be great.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I'm gonna sell your text he sent me. They ain't
gonna tell you what, just let him say. I'm just
gonna let he sent me. He told me he sent
me a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Hold home.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
My dad, I swear it. Why his mouth like that
exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
That's the reason why that's wild.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I killed it.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
My don't play, you know, with jeans with holes in
him like he don't.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Play that word.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Different era I would like my dad different man, my dad.
I don't like my dad still think he like like
g it like word, I was a lot my dad.
You know my dad. Throw it off though, real my
dad a relationship or did you have to get that's
my nigga, Like okay, okay, that's my nigga, Like, oh yeah,
I don't play pops.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
So you've had you have a close knit family, but
I know you mentioned being molested. Was that within the
family or if you don't want to talk about it, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Okay, No, it was. It wasn't really it was like
said like like me.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
It was being a young nigga like me, uh, dealing
with an older woman and at the time not knowing
it was wrong until I got older.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Charlamagne tell your history because he was that with a
similar situation.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Exactly eight years old getting touched on about older woman.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Thought it was okay.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Actually I made her stop because I didn't like to
smell her Jerry Crow. But I realized when I was funny.
But it's true, it's true. And when I was young,
I used to remember those little things used to throw,
the firecrafts that.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Used to pop.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, at one point I just started throwing it at it,
like leave me alone. But I realized it was my
body rejecting it, realizing like, yo, this ain't supposed to
be doing this, right, But in my mind it was
I didn't like the smell of her Jerry, and I
didn't realize that like I got weird or actually.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
When I turned eighteen, I was I was like in
my twenties.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
When I turned eighteen, that was when I like I
found out like like I wasn't even supposed to be
doing that, like what I was doing, but like.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
It's so it's so weird because it's not like it's
not like.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I didn't like it. I was just.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Lord, no, I ain't even like that, but you're saying it.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Because like that's like that was like that was like
the little Kevin Hart damn ship Lord.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's confusing. It's confusing because you do like it, but
then you.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Like the same. Right, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Let's let's get into a song off them. I know
you got to go do another interview.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Did you have a confronted person?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Did you?
Speaker 7 (31:01):
I didn't want to.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
No, No, last I don't because I mean, I mean,
God gonna deal with that, like I ain't.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
No, I ain't.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Hey she did it, Like, we're not gonna do that
because God gonna handle it.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
But it's a pretty common thing.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Like you don't want anybody to do that to your son,
do that to another family member.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
No, no, never, I would never want that to happen.
But I just something to keep yourself. Yeah, so's so I.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Think we got.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I don't want it to become a big thing.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
And we got to change our approach to it.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Because even back then, you know, you you tell somebody
wh was with the older woman, they cheer you.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
They like it.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, I mean you don't like it, like especially for
a man. I mean for a woman, that's wrong. But
with a man, it's like they look at it like
all right, good job.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's why I said, we got change our approach. We
got our young sons. I don't have any sons. I
got the all daughters. But like that's not right, that's
not right. It was a big hold to.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Got four daughters.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
And you guys need to treat yourselves with the same
standards that women are expected to treat themselves with. Yeah,
who practice that?
Speaker 7 (32:03):
That's that all of you? You know me, you guys
are doing great.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Now, thank you, thank you, I got, I gotledge.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Heeple talking about past.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Let's get into song. Whatch you want?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You have the album U. Let's hear another love song, man.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Another love song. We appreciate you for joining us. Pick
up his new album Don't See It's The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Good morning,
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