April 10, 2024 • 38 mins
In this episode, Tudor is joined by Sabine Durden-Coulter, an angel mom who lost her son to an accident caused by an illegal immigrant, who shares her story and advocacy for immigration reform. She emphasizes the preventable nature of these tragedies and the need for stronger border security. Sabine discusses her experience meeting Donald Trump and his commitment to addressing illegal immigration. She also highlights the financial and societal costs of illegal immigration and the impact on American families. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday, Wednesday, & Friday. For more info visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I am really excited
today because I have a good friend on the program today.
Her name is Sabina Durden Coulter. She's an angel mom.
And for those of you who don't necessarily know what
an angel parent is, someone who's lost a relative at
the hands of an illegal immigrant. And Sabina was one
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of the first people that I met when I got
involved in the political world. I was told, you know,
we need you to go interview these people their angel parents,
and that was the first time I learned what an
angel parent was. And to be honest, I didn't know
how to have this conversation. And when you hear Sabina today,
you'll just realize that it's easy to have a conversation
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with her because she is like everybody's mom. So, Sabina,
thank you so much for being on the program.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, thank you for having me, Tutor, and I'm so
honored to be here with you. And yes, we've known
each other a long time and you did so great
back and matter of fact, I appreciate people that are
willing to just talk. There is no right and wrong way.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So but it is a tough subject though, and it's
sad because we continue to see this happen. So your story,
I want you to talk a little bit about Dominic.
Your son died on July twelve, twenty twelve, and that
was because he was in an accident. Now what you
have to know about for people listening. You always have
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dom hugs on you Somewhere written you are like, I
got to give you a domb hug, and it really is.
I think you are so powerful in the way you
talk about your son. He must have been such an
amazing human being.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Thank you, tutor. And yes, the domb hugs are the
kind of hugs. This my six foot four, big guy,
my German chocolate is he called himself because he was
born in Germany. Obviously he got some chocolate in him.
He called himself that and he if I ever have
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when I'm asked my biggest accomplishment, that is having that
incredible son that showed for thirty years what an amazing
man he was. And as a little kid, he started
hanging out with kids that were smelly and had running
noses in kindergarten, so he always tended to the ones
that weren't the popular ones, and he carried that throughout
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his life, just took care and everybody that met him
said he never met a stranger. Everybody fell in love
with him because he was real and unique and kind.
And so I was so proud and I still am
proud to be Dom's mom. Dominique was thirteen years old. Oh,
I am incredibly proud. But he was thirty years old
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after he volunteered for the city of Marino Valley in California,
where he was Volunteer of the Year because he gave
thousands of his free time to volunteer for the fire
department and so forth. So you would always see Dominic
somewhere in town. Everybody knew him. Then he started finding
a love for aviation and also law enforcement, but he
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had a hip injury, so he couldn't become a police officer.
He said, well, the next best thing is being a
dispatcher nine one one dispatcher. So he did that, and
I still hear that. He was truly one of the best.
He saved many police officers' lives and he could just
do his job watching six monitors and once the calls
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were down, he could clown with his friends, who still
celebrate his birthday every year. We're going on twelve years now,
so he just excelled. He wanted to become a helicopter
pilot for the police department, but sadly, and the legal
from Guatemala who didn't obey by our rules, not coming
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here illegally, not driving drunk, not driving without a license
or registration or insurance, had an old car that he
drove up the road while Dominique on his motorcycle was
going to work, coming towards him, and the guy turned
the truck in front of him, trying to get into
a street to catch one of those vans that pick
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up illegal alien labor because it's cheaper, and he had
Dominick so hard that it killed him instantly and threw
him into this wall on the sidewalk. There were two
Marines in their cars behind Dominick watching this horror. One
of them stayed with dominic and he told me later
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he said he was already dead, he didn't suffer. And
the other one ran after the illegal who tried to
get away, and he wasn't even charged with hid and
run police. The calls came into the dispatch center that
Dominick worked out. They were waiting for him because he
was laid. He was never laid. He was sloppy sometimes
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with the boots halfway on, but he wasn't late. And
then finally the license plate number came in and it
showed up as they had a secret code for police
officers on their private vehicles and all that, and now
they started talking and then somebody recognized the number and
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the mayhem. In that dispatch center, they were screaming, crying.
They fell apart. They had to bring in dispatches from
other centers because they couldn't do it. The first responder
knew Dominick and went into shock. The fire department showed up,
they knew him because it was one of their best volunteers.
They couldn't do anything, so they had to call highway
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patrol to secure the scene and they transported Dominique on
the fire truck with the American flag. That's why this
flag means so much to me. To the coroner's office.
I was in Atlanta. I had just arrived with my
now husband, Anthony, who spinned my rock, and I tried
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to call Dominique and he would go to voicemail and
I had a weird feeling something was off, you know
how we moms are linked to our kids. We feel it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, remember you telling me there was like a sense
that you felt it, And I just I think about
that often, the connection of a mother to her only child.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, it never goes away. And so I tried to
call him on his job and they acted real strange
and they couldn't talk. And then I thought, Okay, he's
in the hospital, full body cast, and I'm gonna tickle him.
I'm gonna make it, you know, I'm making it my
fun to tease him. But then the lieutenant came on
and those words you hear in the movies, I'm so
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sorry to tell you that Dominic was killed. They are
as fresh to date as you can see right now
as they were twelve years ago, because you go into
the shock disbelief. I just kissed him. I just hugged
him at the airport, playing around, laughing, joking. Then we
turned around flew back to California, and I was still
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thinking because he was a big prankster. Him and I
pranked each other constantly, and I thought, if he's pranking
me with this, I'm gonna beat him so hard. But
we got to Ontario and his best friends were there
picking us up, and I knew it was true, so
I broke down. I needed to go by the spot.
At that time, Tudor, I still thought it was an accident,
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because they do happen sadly. And a little while later,
an officer whispered in my ear because every day we met,
hundreds of people met at the spot, put a big
old memorial on the wall and flowers, and he whispered
to me. He said, you need to talk to the DA.
He needs to tell you the truth I'm you're talking about.
He said, Oh, the driver of the car is an
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illegal alien.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Why do they hide it? Why is that that how
it goes. I mean, even this latest story that we've
heard in Grand Rapids, it would not have come out.
They were not going to tell the American people the
sky was illegal.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, it's getting worse. When you see Michigan man or
Chicago man, you can pretty much bet on it that
it's an illegal They try to we know it's an invasion,
we know it's a catastrophe that's happening at the border,
what it does to America and it's citizens, and they
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try to whitewash it, like when they get arrested, they
label them as white, not hispanic, not black, no white,
just to slant the statistics. But so once I found
out it was an illegal alien, things changed and I
started to pick up more coming out of the shock.
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You still underwe that you don't know what day it is,
what year it is. And I talked to the DA
and he was well, they knew him. Short story and
long story short, they knew him. They had him in
custody many times before. The guy had two felonies armed robbery,
grand theft.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He was the other thing. It's always someone that's completed
other crimes.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
They had many chances to remove that person, and then
my son's death and many other deaths wouldn't happen. So
he had all these priors, and he had been caught
twice driving drunk, no license, and he drove again and
he was right under the legal limit of being drunk.
And by the time we got to court, the DA,
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who claimed to give dominic justice and make sure that
I will feel a little bit of relief, he made
sure to talk me out of going to trial. I
had no clue what was going on. He said, we
got a hearing. That way we can bring in the
prior chargers. Blah blah blah, And eventually the judge, who
also knew the killer, made sure they gave him a
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misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter without gross negligence, and he got sentenced
to nine months and five year probation.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
A guy he doesn't get deported, you don't get deported.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well that took us, Anthony and I. It took us
a year and a half of fighting, of going to
the immigration center where he was held, and we met
a guy there, a correction officer named Cyrus, and he
made sure because he was so angry, he made sure
that he was watching this guy, and he let us
know when there was a hearing so I could show up.
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I couldn't be in the courtroom with the killer of
my son because he had rights. What how strange is that?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yes, you guess, I don't understan say that.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Why, well, because that's just how it goes. Matter of fact,
while the hearing was going on, Tutor, we were Anthony
took me out of town just to get away, and
all of a sudden he got a call and he
started acting real weird. We know when our husband's you
know something's up. And I asked him, I said, what
was that about. He said, oh, nothink, just don't go
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on Facebook. Right immediately, I wanted to go on Facebook,
and Anthony took my phone and he's never been like that.
He found out that that illegal alien killer was released
on ten thousand dollars cash phoned. So you sit there
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and you try to understand how an illegal alien with
two felonies, two duys, all of that can be bonded
out and where does a daily day laborer get ten
thousand dollars cash from the saddest part was wet he
would flee the country. We would never see justice. No,
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he's as arrogant as every other alien that comes here.
And I'm painting with a broadbrush because it's like a
bolus skittles and there are three poisonous ones in there.
We don't know which ones they are. That's the same
with illegals. You got two good ones and five bad
ones we don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But Liza is coming from a woman who immigrated to
this country.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yes, I immigrated nineteen eighty nine. Took me six years
to become a citizen, cost a lot of money, a
lot of time, paperwork. But I'm proud that that is
my flag. So this guy came back and the judge
asked him, do you have anything to say to the victim.
This dude sat there with hands in prayer and said,
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God gives of course translator that my tax is paid for.
God gives life, God takes life. I was only on
my way to work, and that's when they had peel
me off the floor. And I hear constantly, Well, Dominie
could have been killed by an American. Sure he could have,
but he wasn't. And if that illegal or all other
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illegals are not here to start with, we wouldn't have
thousands and thousands of victims.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. So this is something I want
to ask you about because we have had this conversation
of late in Michigan. Because we have the guy who
was trying to find kids online. We have the man
who shot the woman in the car, left her body
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on the highway, we have the gangs that are breaking
into people's houses. And we're being told that if you
talk about it, you are unfairly politicizing, that this is
not a political issue. But we know one party wants
to do something. One party doesn't want to do Actually,
they want to do something worse. They want to cantinue
to let these people come in.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You have talked about your experience with the Trump administration.
Can you go into a little bit about when people
say he is not really serious about this? What was
your experience with Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I was fortunate enough to meet Donald Trump. His campaign
called my house, and I thought it was one of
Dominic's friends pranking me, and I hung up, but they
got they had called me back and they say that
Donald Trump. It was twenty fifteen June July twenty fifteen.
It was two days before the Angel Versary where I
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always celebrated Dominic's life with all his friends at the
house that he's in La and he would like to
meet me, so Anthony and I drove. We sat in
a conference room with other angel parents, and all of
a sudden the door opened. And I'm telling you, I'm
still seeing it this way. And the door opened and
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all I could see was light, small and this big
guy just gliding in the room. He wasn't walking, he
was gliding. It's such a weird image I have from that.
It was so impressive, and he sat with us and
wanted to hear our stories. There were no security guards around, nothing,
It was just him and us, and he listened to
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our stories. He had tears running down his face. Later
down the road, I got a call again that he
wants me to share Dominique at the RNC in Cleveland.
So the night of the opening, I got to share
Dominique with forty five million people. And I used to
be deathly afraid of public speaking. I couldn't even do this.
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I was so afraid, but I became his voice and
Donald Trump, I got to share with him that he
actually saved my life. Back then, after Dominic died, you know,
there's the funeral and there are people around, and then
he gets quiet, and now I'm talking of about illegal aliens,
illegal immigration. The news who used to come around because
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Stomach was such a big guy in our area in
Riverside County, everybody knew him. But once I started telling
the dru they faded away. People faded away. Family members
didn't like me talking politics, but politics happened with this case.
There was no way to make it look pretty with
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their bow and sprinkles. And I wasn't into politics. But
I'm walking through my living room and the TV was
on and I see Donald Trump come down the escalator
and I thought, oh, is he doing another Apprentice? Because
I loved when he says you're fired, You're fired. I
just loved it. And so he walks up on the
stage and there are flat American flags and I'm still listening,
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and he says something, I'm running for president of the
United States something something, and then he mentioned illegal immigration,
and it hit me so hot because I had planned
my suicide. I had it all planned out. I was
about to go through with it the next week. My
even my my husband then boyfriend didn't know. I had
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no clue. And when he said I legal immigration, I
dropped to my knees. I looked up and looked for
God's face and saying that I know this is on purpose.
I'm not done here. I can't end it. I got
to stay around. Well. I had no clue that I
would speak at the RNC. I had no clue I
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would be on the campaign trail on the stage with him,
and even recently a couple months ago, I'm at Marilago
a lot. I have a lot of friends now in
Palm Beach. He walks by and he sees me, and
he comes over, gives me a hawk and says, there's
Dom's mom. I know. Dominic is looking so proudly down
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on you. And you stand there in front of this
bigger than live man that saved your life, brought forward
all the issues with the legal immigration that nobody talked about.
I heard Hillary talk which he will do for illegals
and refugees, and I switched to Republican when I heard
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her say that. And you stand in front of this
man who has the biggest heart, who wears he can
be really tough. He says what he thinks, and I
appreciate that about him. But he has the biggest heart.
He's a father. He knows how much his children mean
to him, and a parent cannot imagine what it is
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to lose one of your children, because that's just something
your heart gets protected. It's ugly, it's so ugly, and
I don't wish that on my worst enemy. But Donald
Trump has done and his team. Kaylee mcinnanny wrote in
her book American Revolution about Dominique. She put his story
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in her book so that man made sure that there
were a lot less angel moms and dads.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think that people who are listening need to understand.
Here we are twelve years later and this is still
a fresh pain, and yes, I still see the tears
of a mom who lost her son. And that's when
people try to minimize this. You are the people that
were fighting for and the next person, because it could
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be me, it could be anybody that is listening to
this podcast. You just don't know. We already just had
this happen to Lake and Riley, We've just had this
happen to Ruby Garcia. It's like how I hear the
Democrats say, well, when does it have to be this?
When are we going to see another one of these?
Well wait, wait a minute, when are we going to
see another innocent life lost? Because how many of the policies? Yes,
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and how many more?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
And Tuda, it's you know, when they call me a racist,
clearly that's my German chocolate. So I might have yawn
or grin or smile because it's not worth my time.
I get called klu klux Klan, I said, yep, I
use white sheets on my bed. Sometimes I get called
Nazi because I'm from Germany. People want to minimize this,
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and sadly, it's not just the many deaths. It's when
people need to check their children's Social Security numbers. They
are being stolen and used by illegals. They call insurance.
You better make sure you are insured for somebody that's
not insured. There is so much fraud and that it's
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not just death, and it costs America. And yes, last
year four hundred and fifty billion dollars plus a year.
Can you imagine what we could do with that?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
But well, and you've got Democrats who want to pay more.
I mean in Michigan now she's giving families. She's giving
Michigan families five hundred dollars a month if you take
someone into your home. I mean, this is here. We
have this woman who was just killed by someone who
became her boyfriend. I mean that's the other thing. Our
daughters are dating these people, not knowing that they're gang members,
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not knowing that they're murderers. This is and this to
me when people say, oh, you're allowing this to become political,
and it shouldn't be. Isn't the first rule of government
to protect the people. Shouldn't that be what the government
is there for. If we're going to say that the
government has any purpose, then shouldn't it be law and order?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Absolutely? And I've learned through the time why the left,
why the Democrats just keep bringing in illegal aliens by
the buffalo, They flew in three hundred and twenty thousand
over the border so the border apprehensions are lower, so
they can say, oh, look at us, we don't No,
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they flying them in. They're paying for them. Get everything
that Americans in need don't get. And matter of fact,
I had to write it down, it's not about Keith
labor only because we have a Tyson plant here. Well,
there's a Tyson plant that's clothing to open up somewheales
twelve hundred or more people gonna lose, Americans gonna lose
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their jobs while they're gonna hire illegal aliens, of course,
cheap labor. Who they gonna tell, who they're gonna complain to.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It's you're right, I mean, think about we just heard
about that the bridge that collapsed in Maryland. Yeah, and
the six men who were filling the potholes. Supposedly people
have come out and said they're illegal and they and
I think it was who was it that had the
terrible tweet about it? How it was Sarah? You know
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who was Garaldo Rivera was like, Oh, aren't you glad
that people will do these dirty jobs, which made me
so mad because I'm like, Americans want to do construction
jobs because they pay a lot of money. But when
you my question is this is clearly a government contract.
So why were they paying illegals? And how were they
paying them? Were they paying them under the table? Were
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they paying them less than prevailing wage? Why aren't Democrats
up in arms about that? This is all Bologney.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, and Herodo Rivera is a special kind of stupid.
I mean he would show up in the dictionary under
intensely stupid. And he blocked me on Twitter because I'll
always let him have it. He's such a blowhard. But
illegals also vote, and people say no they can't. I said,
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no they do. I'm not sell cocaine, but it's still
being sold, So yes they do. I know that for
a fact, because I know people in many different higher
and lower places.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, I have to have you come out here to
Michigan and talk about this, because this is what they
did in Michigan. In Northern Michigan, they created a nonprofit
to called We the People. You know what it was
it's all nothing but illegal aliens. They worked in. Yes,
we the illegals exactly. They flipped a house seat, a
state house seat in Michigan because their candidate, who they
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paid to be a candidate, was promising driver's licenses for illegals.
What do you think that means? If you've got a
driver's license, you can get a vote.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Of course, that was my third point for having millions
of illegals coming in. It's like ten millions plus under Biden,
is they get counted in the census, which means great,
you can gain a congressional seat.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
So, yes, this is exactly what Elon Musk was trying
to tell people.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yes, yes, it shrugged their shoulders. But you know what,
I still have people close to me that still make
excuses for illegals. And I get it. I understand we
all want a good life for our children and for
our families, but it can be on the expense or
on the back of somebody else. And I was asked
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to do a film with a Hollywood producer and it's
called Americans America has Forgotten. And they did different stories
and one of them was so people don't say, oh,
she's so hateful she's just so cold. One of them
was an illegal alien woman. She was told how beautiful
America is that she can shop at Beverly Hills all
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day long, she can go to Disneyland every day. She
paid five thousand dollars. Well, she didn't have five thousand dollars.
So now she owes the cartels that brought her over.
She owes for the rest of her life. And guess
how she's gotta paid off prostitution drug runs. She was
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brought over, and while she was brought over, she was
telling her story. She was raped by multiple people. She
is now has PTSD. She's afraid to leave that little
dark room she had because people are being like to
to come here.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Right, she doesn't just owe the cartels. She's owned by
the cartels.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
For life, exactly for life. She can never pay that off.
Children we have, is it? Thirty eight thousand children are missing?
Unaccompanied minors? Your listeners, thirty eight thousand kids? Nobody knows?
You asked Biden and them, They just shrugged their shoulder.
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They were handed over to so called sponsors pedophiles. Right,
trafficking not filmed. Look it up and be prepared for
a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
So we have all this.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
If Russell came over to the Ukraine, it was an invasion.
We have millions coming in. It's like we got it,
we got it.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. No, this is not a humanitarian
aid to bring these people and allow them to be
brought in by the cartels and then owned by them.
I mean, I think your stories are so important, and
that's why I love that you have become Dom's voice,
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because who was going to speak out for the children.
It's not just your son. It's the thing that people
don't understand. You're not just fighting for America's children. You're
fighting for all of the children who are being brought
across this border illegally and against their will. Y. Yes, yes,
the women who.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Get told stories are forced over the women who get
forced to or do sell their children. I remember a
story of a six month old that came with her
parents while the cartel stopped them and said you gotta
pay more, They took the baby. The baby was raped
to death, and then the father drowser. The mother made
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it across and that story wasn't on the front page.
So we care about people anywhere. That's why I'm America
is such a generous country you can immigrate leader. Yes,
it's going to take time, and I think we could
spend more time on making it easier, better.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Degree, because if you're looking for the right people, and
that's something that I mean, we even found this. We
have very few people that understood foundries. There's very few
people that understand what it takes to make steel castings.
And my dad had worked with men in the Czech
Republic and he had all of these guys that this
was their their expertise, but through our immigration system, they
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didn't have a degree, so they weren't considered experts. But
it wasn't it was a skilled trade expertise. And so
I agree with you. I think there is a way
to change the system to say the people who want
to come here and that want to do these jobs
and understand these jobs, we should be able to get
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them here, but we can't. And instead I have Democrats saying,
you just don't want these people to come and get jobs. No, no, no,
I've I've been in that situation where we've wanted that
and can't get it because of your system. And they
say there's no good bill. They're not introducing a bill.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
No, they have, matter of fact there it's a good
bill out there, but they won't they won't even pay
attention to it because it doesn't include Ukraine or anybody
else who gets money besides this.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And they want a bill that would allow two million
people to cross right. That's unvalidy that works And no, I.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Tell people, I say, if you don't get this whole
illegal alien thing, I get it unless you're touched by
it or you experience the tragedy. But imagine you're in
your house and every day ten people that you have
no clue who they are, walk into your house, sit down,
eat your food, drink whatever you have, sleep in your
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daughter's bedroom because they sit. They're a nice guy. They
you know, every day every day. How long would it
take for those people who claim it's not that bad
to call the cops to have these illegals and entered
their home removed. That's happening here. And the more we
give these illegals free this, free that, free health care,
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free living conditions, everything is free, of course they come.
It's like when you feed rats every day, the more
you feed, the more they come.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
That happens right, and you see you see these people
now breaking into people's homes, taking over the homes. But
I think, I think the most important thing that we
need to talk about, and I appreciate the fact that
you're willing to talk about it, is that when we
lose a life in this country, it is not a
life lost, it is multiple lives that end up changing
(30:43):
for good. And we almost lost two lives in this
situation of losing dom. But how many other parents are
in that situation? How many families are just broken? But
Ruby Garcias I think it was her sister said something
about you have no idea how many people she impacts
and a day basis like the fact that she's gone
is going to be so hurtful. I mean same with
(31:04):
Lake and Riley's family. You heard about all the people
that came to that memorial. It's the people left behind
that are saying, why can't we just feel safe in
our own country?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And sadly, Tudor, I talked to many families and I
almost became like a counselor without the degree that reached
out to me that don't want to be on the news,
that don't want to talk about it publicly, so I
listened to them because I know their pain. I know
from the moment they get that call. Like when Lake
(31:36):
and Riley was killed, I knew it wasn't illegal alien
before the news talked about it. My radar went up
and my husband had to pull me away because he
could tell I was reliving that moment of getting that call,
trying to figure out that it's a lie, it's not true.
It's the night. So there are so many There are
(31:58):
thousands like me that their families have been destroyed, their lives.
Dominicue was my only child. He couldn't walk me down
the aisle when I married Anthony. I will never have
that grand baby that I promised to spoil rotten. With
the eclipse, we were sitting outside. It was just that
(32:20):
beautiful God made moment that nobody could control but God.
With the eclipse and it got dark and I'm sitting
outside crying because I know my son would have called
me from his plane saying, mom, look I'm up here
in the sky watching it. So we get robbed of
all of that. And I know many other people lose
(32:42):
their loved ones and it's the same pain. But the
ones who lose children or loved ones because of an
illegal alien. Have that added pain because it was one
hundred percent preventable, real simple, absolutely zero death of Americans
by zero illegals in this country, real simple, Not two
(33:04):
hundred here or five thousand, no zero. And it could
be doable. But you know when one party doesn't want
to end it because they could, all the excuses are lame.
They flat We know they could fix it because Donald
Trump had it under control, and the day Biden got
(33:25):
in that White House, he changed all these rules and
laws and he just reversed it. And look where we're
at now. Everywhere you go, every state, every city, but Tudor.
I have something I work with a Fair Federation for
Immigration Reform, and I asked him for numbers for Michigan.
(33:48):
You ready to get your mind blown?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yes, I think legal.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
That's twenty twenty three illegal aliens in Michigan, one hundred
eighty five thousand, So you can add a couple more
thousand easily. They're roughly sixty three thousand US born children
live there too, so they are the anchor babies. Where
those children are. If they're born in the United States
(34:14):
by two illegal alien parents, it's now citizen now they
can bring their family over and they get everything that
we paid your parents, My parents were in Germany. Your
parents paid into for illegal alien households at eighty three thousand,
five hundred and ninety seven students to local schools. Now,
(34:35):
people need to understand that a twelve year old coming
from Guatemala, like the guy that killed Dominique, they're not
the same twelve year old that we have here. So
your daughter sit next to a twelve year old, he
looks at her different than the average twelve ye old.
(34:55):
What are taxpayers supporting? Education? Nine hundred and fifty four
four million, police, legal and correction eighty four million, plus healthcare,
public assistance, general government services and expenses. So illegal immigration
costs Michigan taxpayers one point twelve billion.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
With a b oh, my goodness, so wow.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
When here in Arkansas, I see elderly couples go to Walmart,
they can barely afford their bread, meat, and medication anymore.
And then I know what illegals get. It takes everything
in me when I see them with their baskets full,
and I don't want nobody to suffer. I don't want
people to go hungry. Kids, you know, not having a bed. No,
(35:48):
but I take care of my family first. I took
care of my son for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
It was a good kid.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I was a part of that.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
And wait, let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
When if somebody is looking for a family when this happens,
if a family is looking for someone to talk to you,
how do they find you? How do they find the
groups that are helping them.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I put up this. I started a website. I didn't
want an organization. I didn't want to deal with this.
I didn't want to run for office and be beholden
to anybody telling me whether I can call them a
legal alien or not. So they can reach me on
domhawks dot com. That's a website. I share everything I do,
my moments with Trump and so forth, and the visits
(36:36):
to the border. They can also reach me on Facebook.
So being a dirt and culture, I believe it is
uh and on X I'm finally back on because before
Elon Musk came back and got it, I was banned
for two years.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Oh my goodness, you're kidding me.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, I think they didn't like that. I'm on their
daily play. Last thing. What I find out from deep within,
from the front lines. So I'm back on eggs. So
you find me there and contact me, ask me anything.
You don't have to agree with me. I'm good, I can,
I can talk with people, I want to learn.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Well, thank you. I've learned that I can. I can
do better than being bitter. And that was never in
Dominic's DNA. No matter what happened to us through the years,
him and I, we always took joy in laughter, in pranks,
and really enjoying the little things. Right now, our motorcycles together.
(37:38):
And so I have thirty years of unbelievable memories and
not one bad one, except.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
We have made so many more unbelievable memories for us.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
So I am.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I am so blessed to know you, and I am
so blessed to have had you on today. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I'm so thankful for you. Thank you, Tutor, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
And like she said, you can find her on x
you can find her on Facebook. Go to domhogs. It's
d O M h U G S dot com. Is
it dot com? Right?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Okay, yeah, check it out. Thank you so much, and
thank you all for joining us today on the Tutor
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Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I am really excited
today because I have a good friend on the program today.
Her name is Sabina Durden Coulter. She's an angel mom.
And for those of you who don't necessarily know what
an angel parent is, someone who's lost a relative at
the hands of an illegal immigrant. And Sabina was one
(00:23):
of the first people that I met when I got
involved in the political world. I was told, you know,
we need you to go interview these people their angel parents,
and that was the first time I learned what an
angel parent was. And to be honest, I didn't know
how to have this conversation. And when you hear Sabina today,
you'll just realize that it's easy to have a conversation
(00:46):
with her because she is like everybody's mom. So, Sabina,
thank you so much for being on the program.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, thank you for having me, Tutor, and I'm so
honored to be here with you. And yes, we've known
each other a long time and you did so great
back and matter of fact, I appreciate people that are
willing to just talk. There is no right and wrong way.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So but it is a tough subject though, and it's
sad because we continue to see this happen. So your story,
I want you to talk a little bit about Dominic.
Your son died on July twelve, twenty twelve, and that
was because he was in an accident. Now what you
have to know about for people listening. You always have
(01:32):
dom hugs on you Somewhere written you are like, I
got to give you a domb hug, and it really is.
I think you are so powerful in the way you
talk about your son. He must have been such an
amazing human being.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Thank you, tutor. And yes, the domb hugs are the
kind of hugs. This my six foot four, big guy,
my German chocolate is he called himself because he was
born in Germany. Obviously he got some chocolate in him.
He called himself that and he if I ever have
(02:10):
when I'm asked my biggest accomplishment, that is having that
incredible son that showed for thirty years what an amazing
man he was. And as a little kid, he started
hanging out with kids that were smelly and had running
noses in kindergarten, so he always tended to the ones
that weren't the popular ones, and he carried that throughout
(02:34):
his life, just took care and everybody that met him
said he never met a stranger. Everybody fell in love
with him because he was real and unique and kind.
And so I was so proud and I still am
proud to be Dom's mom. Dominique was thirteen years old. Oh,
I am incredibly proud. But he was thirty years old
(02:57):
after he volunteered for the city of Marino Valley in California,
where he was Volunteer of the Year because he gave
thousands of his free time to volunteer for the fire
department and so forth. So you would always see Dominic
somewhere in town. Everybody knew him. Then he started finding
a love for aviation and also law enforcement, but he
(03:20):
had a hip injury, so he couldn't become a police officer.
He said, well, the next best thing is being a
dispatcher nine one one dispatcher. So he did that, and
I still hear that. He was truly one of the best.
He saved many police officers' lives and he could just
do his job watching six monitors and once the calls
(03:43):
were down, he could clown with his friends, who still
celebrate his birthday every year. We're going on twelve years now,
so he just excelled. He wanted to become a helicopter
pilot for the police department, but sadly, and the legal
from Guatemala who didn't obey by our rules, not coming
(04:05):
here illegally, not driving drunk, not driving without a license
or registration or insurance, had an old car that he
drove up the road while Dominique on his motorcycle was
going to work, coming towards him, and the guy turned
the truck in front of him, trying to get into
a street to catch one of those vans that pick
(04:26):
up illegal alien labor because it's cheaper, and he had
Dominick so hard that it killed him instantly and threw
him into this wall on the sidewalk. There were two
Marines in their cars behind Dominick watching this horror. One
of them stayed with dominic and he told me later
(04:46):
he said he was already dead, he didn't suffer. And
the other one ran after the illegal who tried to
get away, and he wasn't even charged with hid and
run police. The calls came into the dispatch center that
Dominick worked out. They were waiting for him because he
was laid. He was never laid. He was sloppy sometimes
(05:08):
with the boots halfway on, but he wasn't late. And
then finally the license plate number came in and it
showed up as they had a secret code for police
officers on their private vehicles and all that, and now
they started talking and then somebody recognized the number and
(05:29):
the mayhem. In that dispatch center, they were screaming, crying.
They fell apart. They had to bring in dispatches from
other centers because they couldn't do it. The first responder
knew Dominick and went into shock. The fire department showed up,
they knew him because it was one of their best volunteers.
They couldn't do anything, so they had to call highway
(05:53):
patrol to secure the scene and they transported Dominique on
the fire truck with the American flag. That's why this
flag means so much to me. To the coroner's office.
I was in Atlanta. I had just arrived with my
now husband, Anthony, who spinned my rock, and I tried
(06:13):
to call Dominique and he would go to voicemail and
I had a weird feeling something was off, you know
how we moms are linked to our kids. We feel it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, remember you telling me there was like a sense
that you felt it, And I just I think about
that often, the connection of a mother to her only child.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, it never goes away. And so I tried to
call him on his job and they acted real strange
and they couldn't talk. And then I thought, Okay, he's
in the hospital, full body cast, and I'm gonna tickle him.
I'm gonna make it, you know, I'm making it my
fun to tease him. But then the lieutenant came on
and those words you hear in the movies, I'm so
(06:56):
sorry to tell you that Dominic was killed. They are
as fresh to date as you can see right now
as they were twelve years ago, because you go into
the shock disbelief. I just kissed him. I just hugged
him at the airport, playing around, laughing, joking. Then we
turned around flew back to California, and I was still
(07:19):
thinking because he was a big prankster. Him and I
pranked each other constantly, and I thought, if he's pranking
me with this, I'm gonna beat him so hard. But
we got to Ontario and his best friends were there
picking us up, and I knew it was true, so
I broke down. I needed to go by the spot.
At that time, Tudor, I still thought it was an accident,
(07:40):
because they do happen sadly. And a little while later,
an officer whispered in my ear because every day we met,
hundreds of people met at the spot, put a big
old memorial on the wall and flowers, and he whispered
to me. He said, you need to talk to the DA.
He needs to tell you the truth I'm you're talking about.
He said, Oh, the driver of the car is an
(08:03):
illegal alien.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Why do they hide it? Why is that that how
it goes. I mean, even this latest story that we've
heard in Grand Rapids, it would not have come out.
They were not going to tell the American people the
sky was illegal.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, it's getting worse. When you see Michigan man or
Chicago man, you can pretty much bet on it that
it's an illegal They try to we know it's an invasion,
we know it's a catastrophe that's happening at the border,
what it does to America and it's citizens, and they
(08:38):
try to whitewash it, like when they get arrested, they
label them as white, not hispanic, not black, no white,
just to slant the statistics. But so once I found
out it was an illegal alien, things changed and I
started to pick up more coming out of the shock.
(08:59):
You still underwe that you don't know what day it is,
what year it is. And I talked to the DA
and he was well, they knew him. Short story and
long story short, they knew him. They had him in
custody many times before. The guy had two felonies armed robbery,
grand theft.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He was the other thing. It's always someone that's completed
other crimes.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
They had many chances to remove that person, and then
my son's death and many other deaths wouldn't happen. So
he had all these priors, and he had been caught
twice driving drunk, no license, and he drove again and
he was right under the legal limit of being drunk.
And by the time we got to court, the DA,
(09:48):
who claimed to give dominic justice and make sure that
I will feel a little bit of relief, he made
sure to talk me out of going to trial. I
had no clue what was going on. He said, we
got a hearing. That way we can bring in the
prior chargers. Blah blah blah, And eventually the judge, who
also knew the killer, made sure they gave him a
(10:09):
misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter without gross negligence, and he got sentenced
to nine months and five year probation.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
A guy he doesn't get deported, you don't get deported.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well that took us, Anthony and I. It took us
a year and a half of fighting, of going to
the immigration center where he was held, and we met
a guy there, a correction officer named Cyrus, and he
made sure because he was so angry, he made sure
that he was watching this guy, and he let us
know when there was a hearing so I could show up.
(10:49):
I couldn't be in the courtroom with the killer of
my son because he had rights. What how strange is that?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yes, you guess, I don't understan say that.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Why, well, because that's just how it goes. Matter of fact,
while the hearing was going on, Tutor, we were Anthony
took me out of town just to get away, and
all of a sudden he got a call and he
started acting real weird. We know when our husband's you
know something's up. And I asked him, I said, what
was that about. He said, oh, nothink, just don't go
(11:21):
on Facebook. Right immediately, I wanted to go on Facebook,
and Anthony took my phone and he's never been like that.
He found out that that illegal alien killer was released
on ten thousand dollars cash phoned. So you sit there
(11:43):
and you try to understand how an illegal alien with
two felonies, two duys, all of that can be bonded
out and where does a daily day laborer get ten
thousand dollars cash from the saddest part was wet he
would flee the country. We would never see justice. No,
(12:03):
he's as arrogant as every other alien that comes here.
And I'm painting with a broadbrush because it's like a
bolus skittles and there are three poisonous ones in there.
We don't know which ones they are. That's the same
with illegals. You got two good ones and five bad
ones we don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But Liza is coming from a woman who immigrated to
this country.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yes, I immigrated nineteen eighty nine. Took me six years
to become a citizen, cost a lot of money, a
lot of time, paperwork. But I'm proud that that is
my flag. So this guy came back and the judge
asked him, do you have anything to say to the victim.
This dude sat there with hands in prayer and said,
(12:50):
God gives of course translator that my tax is paid for.
God gives life, God takes life. I was only on
my way to work, and that's when they had peel
me off the floor. And I hear constantly, Well, Dominie
could have been killed by an American. Sure he could have,
but he wasn't. And if that illegal or all other
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illegals are not here to start with, we wouldn't have
thousands and thousands of victims.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. So this is something I want
to ask you about because we have had this conversation
of late in Michigan. Because we have the guy who
was trying to find kids online. We have the man
who shot the woman in the car, left her body
(13:41):
on the highway, we have the gangs that are breaking
into people's houses. And we're being told that if you
talk about it, you are unfairly politicizing, that this is
not a political issue. But we know one party wants
to do something. One party doesn't want to do Actually,
they want to do something worse. They want to cantinue
to let these people come in.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You have talked about your experience with the Trump administration.
Can you go into a little bit about when people
say he is not really serious about this? What was
your experience with Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I was fortunate enough to meet Donald Trump. His campaign
called my house, and I thought it was one of
Dominic's friends pranking me, and I hung up, but they
got they had called me back and they say that
Donald Trump. It was twenty fifteen June July twenty fifteen.
It was two days before the Angel Versary where I
(14:37):
always celebrated Dominic's life with all his friends at the
house that he's in La and he would like to
meet me, so Anthony and I drove. We sat in
a conference room with other angel parents, and all of
a sudden the door opened. And I'm telling you, I'm
still seeing it this way. And the door opened and
(14:57):
all I could see was light, small and this big
guy just gliding in the room. He wasn't walking, he
was gliding. It's such a weird image I have from that.
It was so impressive, and he sat with us and
wanted to hear our stories. There were no security guards around, nothing,
It was just him and us, and he listened to
(15:18):
our stories. He had tears running down his face. Later
down the road, I got a call again that he
wants me to share Dominique at the RNC in Cleveland.
So the night of the opening, I got to share
Dominique with forty five million people. And I used to
be deathly afraid of public speaking. I couldn't even do this.
(15:42):
I was so afraid, but I became his voice and
Donald Trump, I got to share with him that he
actually saved my life. Back then, after Dominic died, you know,
there's the funeral and there are people around, and then
he gets quiet, and now I'm talking of about illegal aliens,
illegal immigration. The news who used to come around because
(16:05):
Stomach was such a big guy in our area in
Riverside County, everybody knew him. But once I started telling
the dru they faded away. People faded away. Family members
didn't like me talking politics, but politics happened with this case.
There was no way to make it look pretty with
(16:26):
their bow and sprinkles. And I wasn't into politics. But
I'm walking through my living room and the TV was
on and I see Donald Trump come down the escalator
and I thought, oh, is he doing another Apprentice? Because
I loved when he says you're fired, You're fired. I
just loved it. And so he walks up on the
stage and there are flat American flags and I'm still listening,
(16:49):
and he says something, I'm running for president of the
United States something something, and then he mentioned illegal immigration,
and it hit me so hot because I had planned
my suicide. I had it all planned out. I was
about to go through with it the next week. My
even my my husband then boyfriend didn't know. I had
(17:11):
no clue. And when he said I legal immigration, I
dropped to my knees. I looked up and looked for
God's face and saying that I know this is on purpose.
I'm not done here. I can't end it. I got
to stay around. Well. I had no clue that I
would speak at the RNC. I had no clue I
(17:34):
would be on the campaign trail on the stage with him,
and even recently a couple months ago, I'm at Marilago
a lot. I have a lot of friends now in
Palm Beach. He walks by and he sees me, and
he comes over, gives me a hawk and says, there's
Dom's mom. I know. Dominic is looking so proudly down
(17:55):
on you. And you stand there in front of this
bigger than live man that saved your life, brought forward
all the issues with the legal immigration that nobody talked about.
I heard Hillary talk which he will do for illegals
and refugees, and I switched to Republican when I heard
(18:17):
her say that. And you stand in front of this
man who has the biggest heart, who wears he can
be really tough. He says what he thinks, and I
appreciate that about him. But he has the biggest heart.
He's a father. He knows how much his children mean
to him, and a parent cannot imagine what it is
(18:39):
to lose one of your children, because that's just something
your heart gets protected. It's ugly, it's so ugly, and
I don't wish that on my worst enemy. But Donald
Trump has done and his team. Kaylee mcinnanny wrote in
her book American Revolution about Dominique. She put his story
(19:01):
in her book so that man made sure that there
were a lot less angel moms and dads.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think that people who are listening need to understand.
Here we are twelve years later and this is still
a fresh pain, and yes, I still see the tears
of a mom who lost her son. And that's when
people try to minimize this. You are the people that
were fighting for and the next person, because it could
(19:33):
be me, it could be anybody that is listening to
this podcast. You just don't know. We already just had
this happen to Lake and Riley, We've just had this
happen to Ruby Garcia. It's like how I hear the
Democrats say, well, when does it have to be this?
When are we going to see another one of these?
Well wait, wait a minute, when are we going to
see another innocent life lost? Because how many of the policies? Yes,
(19:55):
and how many more?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
And Tuda, it's you know, when they call me a racist,
clearly that's my German chocolate. So I might have yawn
or grin or smile because it's not worth my time.
I get called klu klux Klan, I said, yep, I
use white sheets on my bed. Sometimes I get called
Nazi because I'm from Germany. People want to minimize this,
(20:20):
and sadly, it's not just the many deaths. It's when
people need to check their children's Social Security numbers. They
are being stolen and used by illegals. They call insurance.
You better make sure you are insured for somebody that's
not insured. There is so much fraud and that it's
(20:44):
not just death, and it costs America. And yes, last
year four hundred and fifty billion dollars plus a year.
Can you imagine what we could do with that?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
But well, and you've got Democrats who want to pay more.
I mean in Michigan now she's giving families. She's giving
Michigan families five hundred dollars a month if you take
someone into your home. I mean, this is here. We
have this woman who was just killed by someone who
became her boyfriend. I mean that's the other thing. Our
daughters are dating these people, not knowing that they're gang members,
(21:18):
not knowing that they're murderers. This is and this to
me when people say, oh, you're allowing this to become political,
and it shouldn't be. Isn't the first rule of government
to protect the people. Shouldn't that be what the government
is there for. If we're going to say that the
government has any purpose, then shouldn't it be law and order?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Absolutely? And I've learned through the time why the left,
why the Democrats just keep bringing in illegal aliens by
the buffalo, They flew in three hundred and twenty thousand
over the border so the border apprehensions are lower, so
they can say, oh, look at us, we don't No,
(21:57):
they flying them in. They're paying for them. Get everything
that Americans in need don't get. And matter of fact,
I had to write it down, it's not about Keith
labor only because we have a Tyson plant here. Well,
there's a Tyson plant that's clothing to open up somewheales
twelve hundred or more people gonna lose, Americans gonna lose
(22:19):
their jobs while they're gonna hire illegal aliens, of course,
cheap labor. Who they gonna tell, who they're gonna complain to.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It's you're right, I mean, think about we just heard
about that the bridge that collapsed in Maryland. Yeah, and
the six men who were filling the potholes. Supposedly people
have come out and said they're illegal and they and
I think it was who was it that had the
terrible tweet about it? How it was Sarah? You know
(22:50):
who was Garaldo Rivera was like, Oh, aren't you glad
that people will do these dirty jobs, which made me
so mad because I'm like, Americans want to do construction
jobs because they pay a lot of money. But when
you my question is this is clearly a government contract.
So why were they paying illegals? And how were they
paying them? Were they paying them under the table? Were
(23:11):
they paying them less than prevailing wage? Why aren't Democrats
up in arms about that? This is all Bologney.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, and Herodo Rivera is a special kind of stupid.
I mean he would show up in the dictionary under
intensely stupid. And he blocked me on Twitter because I'll
always let him have it. He's such a blowhard. But
illegals also vote, and people say no they can't. I said,
(23:39):
no they do. I'm not sell cocaine, but it's still
being sold, So yes they do. I know that for
a fact, because I know people in many different higher
and lower places.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, I have to have you come out here to
Michigan and talk about this, because this is what they
did in Michigan. In Northern Michigan, they created a nonprofit
to called We the People. You know what it was
it's all nothing but illegal aliens. They worked in. Yes,
we the illegals exactly. They flipped a house seat, a
state house seat in Michigan because their candidate, who they
(24:13):
paid to be a candidate, was promising driver's licenses for illegals.
What do you think that means? If you've got a
driver's license, you can get a vote.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Of course, that was my third point for having millions
of illegals coming in. It's like ten millions plus under Biden,
is they get counted in the census, which means great,
you can gain a congressional seat.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
So, yes, this is exactly what Elon Musk was trying
to tell people.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yes, yes, it shrugged their shoulders. But you know what,
I still have people close to me that still make
excuses for illegals. And I get it. I understand we
all want a good life for our children and for
our families, but it can be on the expense or
on the back of somebody else. And I was asked
(25:05):
to do a film with a Hollywood producer and it's
called Americans America has Forgotten. And they did different stories
and one of them was so people don't say, oh,
she's so hateful she's just so cold. One of them
was an illegal alien woman. She was told how beautiful
America is that she can shop at Beverly Hills all
(25:27):
day long, she can go to Disneyland every day. She
paid five thousand dollars. Well, she didn't have five thousand dollars.
So now she owes the cartels that brought her over.
She owes for the rest of her life. And guess
how she's gotta paid off prostitution drug runs. She was
(25:48):
brought over, and while she was brought over, she was
telling her story. She was raped by multiple people. She
is now has PTSD. She's afraid to leave that little
dark room she had because people are being like to
to come here.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Right, she doesn't just owe the cartels. She's owned by
the cartels.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
For life, exactly for life. She can never pay that off.
Children we have, is it? Thirty eight thousand children are missing?
Unaccompanied minors? Your listeners, thirty eight thousand kids? Nobody knows?
You asked Biden and them, They just shrugged their shoulder.
(26:30):
They were handed over to so called sponsors pedophiles. Right,
trafficking not filmed. Look it up and be prepared for
a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
So we have all this.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
If Russell came over to the Ukraine, it was an invasion.
We have millions coming in. It's like we got it,
we got it.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. No, this is not a humanitarian
aid to bring these people and allow them to be
brought in by the cartels and then owned by them.
I mean, I think your stories are so important, and
that's why I love that you have become Dom's voice,
(27:11):
because who was going to speak out for the children.
It's not just your son. It's the thing that people
don't understand. You're not just fighting for America's children. You're
fighting for all of the children who are being brought
across this border illegally and against their will. Y. Yes, yes,
the women who.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Get told stories are forced over the women who get
forced to or do sell their children. I remember a
story of a six month old that came with her
parents while the cartel stopped them and said you gotta
pay more, They took the baby. The baby was raped
to death, and then the father drowser. The mother made
(27:51):
it across and that story wasn't on the front page.
So we care about people anywhere. That's why I'm America
is such a generous country you can immigrate leader. Yes,
it's going to take time, and I think we could
spend more time on making it easier, better.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Degree, because if you're looking for the right people, and
that's something that I mean, we even found this. We
have very few people that understood foundries. There's very few
people that understand what it takes to make steel castings.
And my dad had worked with men in the Czech
Republic and he had all of these guys that this
was their their expertise, but through our immigration system, they
(28:33):
didn't have a degree, so they weren't considered experts. But
it wasn't it was a skilled trade expertise. And so
I agree with you. I think there is a way
to change the system to say the people who want
to come here and that want to do these jobs
and understand these jobs, we should be able to get
(28:53):
them here, but we can't. And instead I have Democrats saying,
you just don't want these people to come and get jobs. No, no, no,
I've I've been in that situation where we've wanted that
and can't get it because of your system. And they
say there's no good bill. They're not introducing a bill.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
No, they have, matter of fact there it's a good
bill out there, but they won't they won't even pay
attention to it because it doesn't include Ukraine or anybody
else who gets money besides this.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And they want a bill that would allow two million
people to cross right. That's unvalidy that works And no, I.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Tell people, I say, if you don't get this whole
illegal alien thing, I get it unless you're touched by
it or you experience the tragedy. But imagine you're in
your house and every day ten people that you have
no clue who they are, walk into your house, sit down,
eat your food, drink whatever you have, sleep in your
(29:47):
daughter's bedroom because they sit. They're a nice guy. They
you know, every day every day. How long would it
take for those people who claim it's not that bad
to call the cops to have these illegals and entered
their home removed. That's happening here. And the more we
give these illegals free this, free that, free health care,
(30:10):
free living conditions, everything is free, of course they come.
It's like when you feed rats every day, the more
you feed, the more they come.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
That happens right, and you see you see these people
now breaking into people's homes, taking over the homes. But
I think, I think the most important thing that we
need to talk about, and I appreciate the fact that
you're willing to talk about it, is that when we
lose a life in this country, it is not a
life lost, it is multiple lives that end up changing
(30:43):
for good. And we almost lost two lives in this
situation of losing dom. But how many other parents are
in that situation? How many families are just broken? But
Ruby Garcias I think it was her sister said something
about you have no idea how many people she impacts
and a day basis like the fact that she's gone
is going to be so hurtful. I mean same with
(31:04):
Lake and Riley's family. You heard about all the people
that came to that memorial. It's the people left behind
that are saying, why can't we just feel safe in
our own country?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And sadly, Tudor, I talked to many families and I
almost became like a counselor without the degree that reached
out to me that don't want to be on the news,
that don't want to talk about it publicly, so I
listened to them because I know their pain. I know
from the moment they get that call. Like when Lake
(31:36):
and Riley was killed, I knew it wasn't illegal alien
before the news talked about it. My radar went up
and my husband had to pull me away because he
could tell I was reliving that moment of getting that call,
trying to figure out that it's a lie, it's not true.
It's the night. So there are so many There are
(31:58):
thousands like me that their families have been destroyed, their lives.
Dominicue was my only child. He couldn't walk me down
the aisle when I married Anthony. I will never have
that grand baby that I promised to spoil rotten. With
the eclipse, we were sitting outside. It was just that
(32:20):
beautiful God made moment that nobody could control but God.
With the eclipse and it got dark and I'm sitting
outside crying because I know my son would have called
me from his plane saying, mom, look I'm up here
in the sky watching it. So we get robbed of
all of that. And I know many other people lose
(32:42):
their loved ones and it's the same pain. But the
ones who lose children or loved ones because of an
illegal alien. Have that added pain because it was one
hundred percent preventable, real simple, absolutely zero death of Americans
by zero illegals in this country, real simple, Not two
(33:04):
hundred here or five thousand, no zero. And it could
be doable. But you know when one party doesn't want
to end it because they could, all the excuses are lame.
They flat We know they could fix it because Donald
Trump had it under control, and the day Biden got
(33:25):
in that White House, he changed all these rules and
laws and he just reversed it. And look where we're
at now. Everywhere you go, every state, every city, but Tudor.
I have something I work with a Fair Federation for
Immigration Reform, and I asked him for numbers for Michigan.
(33:48):
You ready to get your mind blown?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yes, I think legal.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
That's twenty twenty three illegal aliens in Michigan, one hundred
eighty five thousand, So you can add a couple more
thousand easily. They're roughly sixty three thousand US born children
live there too, so they are the anchor babies. Where
those children are. If they're born in the United States
(34:14):
by two illegal alien parents, it's now citizen now they
can bring their family over and they get everything that
we paid your parents, My parents were in Germany. Your
parents paid into for illegal alien households at eighty three thousand,
five hundred and ninety seven students to local schools. Now,
(34:35):
people need to understand that a twelve year old coming
from Guatemala, like the guy that killed Dominique, they're not
the same twelve year old that we have here. So
your daughter sit next to a twelve year old, he
looks at her different than the average twelve ye old.
(34:55):
What are taxpayers supporting? Education? Nine hundred and fifty four
four million, police, legal and correction eighty four million, plus healthcare,
public assistance, general government services and expenses. So illegal immigration
costs Michigan taxpayers one point twelve billion.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
With a b oh, my goodness, so wow.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
When here in Arkansas, I see elderly couples go to Walmart,
they can barely afford their bread, meat, and medication anymore.
And then I know what illegals get. It takes everything
in me when I see them with their baskets full,
and I don't want nobody to suffer. I don't want
people to go hungry. Kids, you know, not having a bed. No,
(35:48):
but I take care of my family first. I took
care of my son for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
It was a good kid.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I was a part of that.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
And wait, let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
When if somebody is looking for a family when this happens,
if a family is looking for someone to talk to you,
how do they find you? How do they find the
groups that are helping them.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I put up this. I started a website. I didn't
want an organization. I didn't want to deal with this.
I didn't want to run for office and be beholden
to anybody telling me whether I can call them a
legal alien or not. So they can reach me on
domhawks dot com. That's a website. I share everything I do,
my moments with Trump and so forth, and the visits
(36:36):
to the border. They can also reach me on Facebook.
So being a dirt and culture, I believe it is
uh and on X I'm finally back on because before
Elon Musk came back and got it, I was banned
for two years.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Oh my goodness, you're kidding me.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, I think they didn't like that. I'm on their
daily play. Last thing. What I find out from deep within,
from the front lines. So I'm back on eggs. So
you find me there and contact me, ask me anything.
You don't have to agree with me. I'm good, I can,
I can talk with people, I want to learn.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Well, thank you. I've learned that I can. I can
do better than being bitter. And that was never in
Dominic's DNA. No matter what happened to us through the years,
him and I, we always took joy in laughter, in pranks,
and really enjoying the little things. Right now, our motorcycles together.
(37:38):
And so I have thirty years of unbelievable memories and
not one bad one, except.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
We have made so many more unbelievable memories for us.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
So I am.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I am so blessed to know you, and I am
so blessed to have had you on today. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I'm so thankful for you. Thank you, Tutor, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
And like she said, you can find her on x
you can find her on Facebook. Go to domhogs. It's
d O M h U G S dot com. Is
it dot com? Right?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Okay, yeah, check it out. Thank you so much, and
thank you all for joining us today on the Tutor
Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, go to Tutor
Dixon podcast dot com and subscribe there, or head over
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