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February 15, 2021 89 mins

Bruce Castor and Michael van der Veen, two attorneys on President Trump’s defense team, talk about the acquittal of the President and the evidence they brought forward. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, glad you with us. Happy Monday toll free
on numbers eight hundred and nine for one Sean you
want to be a part of the program. We've got
the lawyers for the president coming up during the course
of the program today. What a beat down Michael Vanderveen
gave the CBS anchor. That was pretty amazing. And Bruce
Canter also, David Shoone, he did the portion of the

(00:23):
case where he literally lit up the whole room with
the montage as he played. So we'll go through a
lot of what was going on behind the scenes as
we speak. Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York, under
huge pressure former Governor Pataki, now floating the idea that

(00:44):
this cover up of the nursing home deaths is such
a big deal that they want. He wants the state
to take a hard look at at a recall effort,
which New York does not have a means to do
like California does. Cuomo is now out there trying to
in this again. He's claiming it's not his fault. We've
got to give a shout out to our friends in

(01:05):
Texas today. As Joe Bistarti warned us late last week,
things have gotten really bad down there weatherwise, with snow, low, low, low,
historically low temperatures. You have pavement ice. They don't have
anything that resembles a plow or sander or salting machines. Nothing.

(01:25):
And there's a state of federal state of emergency has
been declared in Texas. Governor abbitted Cruise. I spoke with
both of them, and they're all over it. And but
for those of you down there, it might be time
to check on your elderly neighbors and friends. Make sure
everybody's okay, everybody has enough heat, they're warm. Maybe you
have a generator, you have an elderly neighbor, you might

(01:46):
want to invite them in and get them nice and
warm if their house is cold. They just don't prepare
for things like this. Good news in the media front,
and that being that Parlor is back, thank goodness, And
they apparently have now have bypassed everything. Hold on anyway,

(02:07):
but Parlor's back. They've resumed their social media app. They've
secured a new new computer servers. Not a not an
easy process from everything I know, Uh, you got YouTube.
Not only were they not only were these big tech
companies a lot of them cancel any story by the
New York Post um but then then now deleting portions

(02:30):
of the dislikes when people comment on Biden videos, Oh
that's spam. Okay, can you prove it spam? I'd like
to see. That is a big story I'm gonna I
want to tell you about. There's a smoking gun email
that has finally come out if John Durham is still
awake and doing anything that resembles any real investigation. But anyway,

(02:52):
it was an email from Komey to James Clapper in
January of twenty seventeen. Now by that point, the FBI
already knew, having interviewed Christopher Steele. Steele told them that, Yeah,
I did this whole thing dossier thing to hell Pillory
and remember Sally Yates and people who else said it.

(03:13):
Andrew McCabe had said that without the dirty Russian dossier
misinformation Clinton paid for dossier, we wouldn't have gotten the
FISA warrants. Well, now we see in this email that
Comey wrote to James Clapper, we're not able to sufficiently
corroborate the reporting as it relates to the dossier that

(03:34):
was that he signed three warrants four verifying the authenticity
of the information. And he sent this email the day
that he renewed the FISA application, the first renewal, and
then he did one even after that. We're not able
to sufficiently corroborate the reporting. Just the news dot com

(03:57):
is reporting. Wow. Can you imagine that We've got a
lot of news on the Biden agenda, which we're going
to be getting into. Now he's going after your Second
Amendment rights. Now they're refusing to call Israel an ally unbelievable.
Then you got this Deputy Press Secretary was only suspended
now apparently is now resigned. Then of course nobody pays

(04:22):
attention to the Born Alive Infant Protection Act at Republicans
Democratic senators refused to outlaw that. I mean, it's it's
pretty sad. So and then we got this whole impeachment thing.
And on top of it, then you got that Democrats
cannot quit Donald Trump was a red state article. They

(04:43):
can't quit him. Democrats have a new plan on how
to get Trump after the acquittal that took place. Republicans, though,
are now finally going on offense, which is a great thing.
You have House Republicans demanding Nancy Pelosi answer some questions
about the Capitol riot. Now, what have we learned? What
was a big part of this whole snap impeachment collapse

(05:09):
had to do with the fact that they rushed to judgment,
They did no investigation, and they did their snap impeachment,
no due process, no defense, no presumption of innocence of
any kind. All right, that's that's a big problem that
this is now going to open a door. It's going
to be easy to impeach the president pretty much for
any reason whatsoever. But rightly so, if the FBI knew,

(05:33):
if court documents now show, if Congress want to Concio
Cortes knew a week in advance that this was all
likely to happen. They sent a letter guys like Jim
Jordan and Devin Newness and Rodney Davis and a few others.
James Comer to Pelosi saying that many more important questions

(05:53):
about her responsibility. She's the head of the sergeant in
arms in the in the house. Why if everybody else
seemed to know, and the FBI knew, and even fake
news outlets like the Washington Post and see an Enter
reporting it, why didn't they do anything. I mean, this
can't happen to this country in a post nine to
eleven world, as I've been saying, So they're demanding answers

(06:14):
for Pelosi on her security decisions. Mark Meadows was on
My show Friday night and he confirmed no, the President
offered days in advance to bring in the National Guard
if they wanted it, and then the media is saying, no,
that's not true. He well, okay, I've never known Mark
Meadows to lie, especially on something as important of as that.

(06:38):
There is great, frankly justified anger against Mitch McConnell, and
Lindsey Graham was on Fox News Sunday dealing with this,
and there's a even a poll out today. Look, if
you fracture the Republican Party, which could happen, but if
it did happen, it's it's it's not that the Democrats

(06:59):
would love it, trust me. And as Lindsay said, I
don't know who McConnell was trying to impress, but certainly
wasn't the people that voted for him. He's right on
that comment. And if Senate Republicans ever hoped to reclaim
the majority, job one needs to be what I think
probably getting new leadership. Considering that the leadership of the

(07:22):
Republicans has lost touch with the base of their party.
That's not going to end well for anybody. Graham said,
I think Senator McConnell's speech he got a load off
his chest, but unfortunately put a load on the back
of Republicans. You know, that speech, you're going to see
in twenty twenty two campaigns against Republicans. And I would
imagine if you're a Republican running in George Arizona, New Hampshire,

(07:44):
where we have a chance to take back the Senate,
they may be playing Senator McConnell's speech and asking you
about it. Then he added, I think McConnell's speech was
an outlier regarding how Republicans feel about this. Obviously, Mitch
McConnell is way out of touch. And you know, you
need somebody that actually understands the base of their party

(08:05):
and what people want, you know, And there's this one
whole thing here that nobody seems to be getting. The
whole process here should scare every American, starting with Pat
Lahey presiding, a guy that already said on the record
that he believed Donald Trump was guilty, How did he

(08:27):
get to preside over this this shift show charade that
took place. Now, it always was a predetermined outcome. I
told you that I was right about that. We're not
wrong about that. How did that happen? How does that
in any way represent any fundamental fairness of any kind
in terms of any type of of proceeding for somebody

(08:53):
on an important question like impeachment. It was a big
deal that John Roberts said, now, don't drag me into
this post presidential impeachment shift show charade. I don't want
any part of it. And he was right. All rules
of evidence, evidentiary standards were thrown out the window, just eviscerated,

(09:17):
you know. And when they started, when David Shoon started
showing those montages of the incendiary, insurrectionist language of Democrats. Well,
there's a point to be made here, and that is
that if you apply these exact same standards that the
Democrats are using, if you apply that too, Democrats, guess

(09:39):
what they'd be impeached, including Kamala Harris, and they would
be put on trial. And really, Joe, I want to
beat the hell out of the president. That might rise
to the level itself. Certainly, Chuck Schumerner's threats to Gorsage
and Kavanaugh, but Kamala Harris after the police precinct burned
to the ground Minneapolis, supporting a bail fund so that quote,

(10:04):
insurrectionists that are arrested can get out of prison. And
some did, and some committed a lot more crimes that
we've chronicled here on this program, chronicled on TV, you know,
I mean, it was a powerful case. Is you don't
have snap impeachments like this is why you don't. And
now that we know that it was pre planned and

(10:25):
that all these groups is that a new one understood
that it was pre planned. But if you apply the standards,
it's exactly the same. I thought one of the funniest things.
I mean, I never thought it would end the Democratic
politicians fight fight fight, fight fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.
We gotta fight, we gotta fight, we gotta fight. We
gotta fight, fight like hell. We all gotta fight like hell.

(10:46):
We're gonna I'm gonna fight like hell. Let's fight like hell.
And it shows that they're not applying the same standards
in in this case to other people. They just they're
not and they won't and pup can feign all the
moral outrage she wants. But she's part of the problem
too with her comments about when the Wisconsin state capital,

(11:10):
remember what took place there, and she was cheering that
on herself at the time. The rules don't apply to Democrats.
The rules don't apply to Kamala Harris or Joe Biden,
or Chuck Schumer or Maxine Waters. It looks like the
censure movement has died. Nancy Pelosi said, no, he deserves

(11:31):
much more than that. We we censure people for using
the wrong stationary. I'm like, okay, and this is what
this is what we get. This is what the American
people get. Lindsey Graham's saying about this double standard on
Fox News Sunday, Well, if you use their model, I
don't know how Kamala Harris doesn't get impeached if the
Republicans take over the House, because she actually bailed out rioters.

(11:55):
So now we've opened up Pandora's box here, and it's
sad for the country. He's right, but you know, and
then I we had this this attorney for the President,
Michael Vandervey. Oh man, it was just it was a
brutal takedown of the CBS reporter um. Now for the
Republican senators, the few of those that actually voted guilty,

(12:19):
this massive backlash back in their home districts. Even though
Richard Burr was leaving anyway. And then you have Senator
Cassidy Louisiana, and then you had Pat Toomey, he's out
as well. You know, they felt, I guess was politically
safe for them. M That's another sad thing is that people.
It just shows how corrupt the whole swamp is. You know,

(12:42):
maybe we should do a one and done Congress one
one one term as senator, maybe two terms as congressman
or a woman, and then you're out term limit everybody
so they don't spend all their time playing politics as
we roll along. Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred nine four one, Sean,
if you want to be a part of the program,
you know, revenge and vengeance, forever Democrats and never Trumpers

(13:10):
and the rest. You know, they just they cannot and
I'm predicting right now. Donald Trump has been pretty quiet.
He did release a statement Saturday, but the President has
been pretty quiet. And the President, you know, did talk
about the sad commentary in Our Time and that is
when and this has gone on for the entirety of

(13:32):
him running for office and his presidency. And you know,
we now have a smoking gun email as just the
news dot Com reports today on James Comey. He knew
not to trust the dossier, but signed three applications saying
it was verified, and now he's saying the opposite, saying
he can't verify it. It's just sad. It's that one

(13:55):
party can, in so many different ways abuse their power,
be this corrupt. You know, look at the whole quid
pro quo joe issue. You know, zero experience, You're making
tens of millions of dollars, you know, at one point
five billion dollars, Russian oligarchs, Kazakhstan oligarchs, be Resma, no

(14:16):
experience whatsoever. And it is it is we've gotten to
the point where all of this gets pushed under the
rug and all these weak Republicans. This bothers me that
go out there and where were they during Operation Crossfire Hurricane.

(14:39):
Where were they fighting the last impeachment with truthful examples
of abuse of power and cashing in on a family name.
Where were they then? And And that's why I don't
think they seem to understand why people are so angry
about this, and also publicans have lost their fight. They

(15:02):
could have learned a lot of lessons from Trump. Okay,
you don't like his style, got it check, you don't
like his tweeting check. But the American people liked that
he gave promises, he followed through on them, he implement
mended them every day, and he didn't back down on them.
There's a lesson to be learned for any politician if
you have views yours sincere, even Bernie Sanders isn't sincere

(15:27):
all right, twenty five to the top of the hour.
I don't know how Kamala Harris is going to feel
about this. In Minneapolis, you have officials there. This is
where this whole defund the police effort movement, if you will, started.
They actually wanted to disband remember the entire police department.
Then we found out the people voting that way. Oh yeah,
they were using taxpayer dollars to pay for their own

(15:48):
private security. How ironic, right? Anyway, they're planning now in
Minneapolis to spend six point four million to hire dozens
of police officers at a time, and you still have
city council members and activist groups advocating to replace the
police department, which I believe they already cut, and they

(16:09):
voted unanimously Friday to approve the additional funding the police requested.
The department says it only has six hundred and thirty
eight officers available to work, roughly two hundred fewer than usual.
I wonder why who's going to want to work there?
The mob continues to obsess, you know, and this is

(16:29):
the great hypocrisy too. We can't ever allow what happened
at the Capitol that ever happened again, I've been saying
it every day and every night. You can't allow that.
How did they breach that? And then the fact that
we had intelligence and that at the FBI knew, and
that congressmen and women knew apparently, according to Congresswoman Accio Cortez,

(16:51):
well what did they all know? And when did they
all know it? And why didn't they all say something?
And if they did say something, who did they say
it too? Because then we would have had the proper
security to protect our capital, the people's House, our institutions,
and yes, every elected official needs to be protected everyone.
This isn't about politics. But you know, he just had.

(17:13):
For example, by my account, we've had what ten left
wing protests in New York City in the last what
nine months? As you know, we had, you know, things,
we're getting out of hand again. Police arrested eleven people
in New York who allegedly bit a CoP's leg when
an anti cop protest turned violet in New York City

(17:34):
on Saturday, hundred people, I'm sorry. On Friday, one hundred
people converged on Midtown, New York, defund the police, a
demonstration organized, according to the New York Post by Black
Lives Matter. Six women four men charged with disorderly conduct
obstructing government administration. One guy was arrested for kicking one

(17:56):
officer in the foot while and biting another officer on
his I okay, well they have no bail in New York.
You know that means they arrest them, they put them
in jail, they let them out. I mean, it's it's
insane that this is happening. It's it's madness. And it's
not just of course. In Portland, Portland you have you know,

(18:18):
leftist activists pelting police now with snowballs. Well, I guess
it's better than bricks and Molotov cocktails and better than
frozen water bottles. Like we watched all summer, you had
a hundred protests out there f and then you know
asteris asterist ask us twelve you know that was in

(18:38):
let's see in midtown Manhattan, and then you had F
twelve are anti police terms that mean f the police
a reference to some police TV show Adam twelve one
Atom twelve one twelve. Remember that anyway, And like Barney
Frank was another police Barney Miller rather was Barney Frank

(19:00):
a former commerceman. Barney Miller was a former police show
from New York City's twelfth Precinct. Anyway, that's apparently fairly
well known. I didn't know it until I read it today.
You still have Cuomo just you know, going out there.
This is getting really bad for him. George Pataki, former governor,
now thinks, yeah, the issue of you know, this nursing

(19:23):
home death cover up should result in him being taken
out of office. But they don't have any recall effort
like they do out in California. And that's that's taken
on a lot of urgency out there. There's now there's
a lot of talk and a lot of studies that
have been coming out of the damage that is done

(19:45):
to people families. The AP had a big report that
for many couples, for example, that we're going to be
getting married, the pandemic as reeked havoc on their wedding plans,
bolstering you know, I mean putting a lot stress on
relationships where couples already married, it's posed a you know,
a lot of new tests, some get closer, some people

(20:08):
have you know, fallen apart, and marriages that that is
now resulting in a lot of divorce around the country
becoming an epidemic. As they give a lot of details
in this piece. In December, Biden promised Americans that he
would only call for masks until April. And anyway, that

(20:28):
was his declaration. Remember he's gonna he's gonna vaccinate three
hundred Americans in the summer. He said it twice last week,
three hundred. We're gonna have four to six hundred million doses,
but we're gonna be only gonna give the vaccine to
three hundred. Um So people are pretty angry. Anyway. Cuomo

(20:49):
now has Republicans and Democrats calling for his resignation in
New York and there is one politician now calling for
his emmy to be taken back. An Award wrote the
book about leadership in the process, his longtime nemesis, Comrade
de Blasio calling for a full accounting of Cuomo's alleged
nursing home death cover up. I'm not even alleged at

(21:12):
this point. Now we have a real whistleblower with a
real identity that now has come forward and said, yeah,
all of this is in fact has happened. So a
lot going on there now, which you watched Joe Biden's agenda.
You know it's funny because now the Democrats they want
to they want to go into more investigations into Donald Trump.

(21:34):
I found a pretty interesting Red States headline. They can't
quit him. Democrat's new plan on how to get Donald
Trump like Syria. We had another plan he's out of office.
Nancy Pelosi ruled out censure because she said it's a
slap in the face to the constitution. It lets everyone
off the hook. And then she's we censor people for

(21:57):
using stationary for the wrong purpose. Am okay. House Democrats
issue a stark warning about their own party In twenty
twenty two. Some Democrats see that This is not going
good for them. Joe Biden's team, apparently behind the scenes,
is in a bit of a panic because, you know,
we're going to spend the entire first year of the

(22:19):
Biden presidency, maybe the first two years, always talking about
Donald Trump, meaning his Democratic supporters. I mean, if you
look at Joe Biden's agenda, Senator of Blackburn, Marsha Blackburn
of Tennessee warning Biden that China is not our friend
when she said she hopes Joe Biden understands the threat

(22:40):
that China is now posing. That's what former Secretary of
State Mike Pompeio was saying as he was leaving that position.
China is not our friend, she said, They are our adversary.
They practice civil military fusion. You never know where one
piece ends and the other begins. And he's you know,
a lot of warning going out Biden to Congress. Now,

(23:03):
this shouldn't surprise him at anybody. Remember he was gonna
make Beto Bozo O'Rourke as guns are Daily Wire as
a piece today about Biden to Congress and act major
restrictions on the Second Amendment, on your Second Amendment rights, Well,
that came up in the election too, demanding gun bands
and new laws that will allow people to sue gun manufacturers.

(23:26):
That's part of it. Why would you get to sue
unless unless somehow the gun like backfires, it doesn't work properly.
People that misuse a firearm, that is a crime. Why
would you hold the manufacturer that sells the gun responsible
with people that don't use Are you going to sue

(23:48):
knife manufacturers or baseball bat manufacturers or tire iron manufacturers?
If people misuse the products they are what they're intended for,
let's say, target shooting, hunting, self protection. Right. He's now
calling on Congress to enact these gun reforms, including requiring

(24:09):
background checks on all gun sales, which pretty much happens now,
banning every assault weapon with high capacity magazines, eliminating immunity
for gun manufacturers. Now the way they define an assault weapon,
that probably amounts to a call for banning all semi
automatic firearms. There was no language included in the statement.

(24:33):
And if gun owners are not allowed, are we going
to be allowed to keep the guns we have? Or
is this going to become a mandatory gun confiscation program.
Can't wait to get the details on all of this.
Jen Saki, the White House Press Secretary. You know, she's
circling back apparently a lot. But you know, we saw

(24:56):
what happened on day one when they was at the ambassador.
Twitter account to Israel changed dramatically, and anyway, it looks
like the hostilities. We're going back to the Obama Biden
years on the treatment of Israel. There had been no
president ever that had supported the state of Israel, the

(25:19):
only democracy in the region, our top ally anyway, So
now Biden is refusing to call say they're one of
our best allies. How did Trump get all these these
deals done with the Emirates, and you know, deals that
were unthinkable because the Egyptians, Jordanians, the Saudis, the Emirates, Israel,

(25:41):
the US have already figured out that a nuclear armed
Iran and Iranian hegemony in the region is going to
result in a disaster. Pretty scary times we live in. Then,
of course, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act on Democratic
senators refused to outlaw that, which is pretty sad. So

(26:04):
Biden calling on a Congress to ban assault weapons and
institute major gun restrictions. In Puerto Rico, the governor is
saying Congress is morally obligated to act on the statehood vote.
DC is probably first. Biden's DHS Department of Homeland Security
is about to release twenty five thousand plus migrants into

(26:27):
Texas and California communities. That's just the beginning of open
borders and amnesty, which through executive order and bypassing an
entire branch of government that Biden has been involved in
that most people haven't been paying attention to. Texas Sheriff
is saying clear evidence illegal immigration is soaring under Joe Biden.

(26:48):
Why not because people know that amnesty is coming. Why
that's like an invitation. I'm not sure if people are
following his masked mandate when the country is entered illegally
Biden Polo season now or forcing the release of some
migrants in West Texas in a border community there, and
then they can't do their job. I mean, it's this

(27:10):
is all the stuff we worried about, you know. The
smoking gun on just thenews dot com on Coomy is
pretty amazing because the very day he signed the first renewal, Remember,
Comey signed the first FISA application unverifiable as it is,
and it says that the type of a top of
a FISA application verified. He signed that first one, you know,

(27:36):
when Donald Trump was a candidate. Now, as Sally Yates
has said and Andrew McCabe have said, without the dirty
Russian misinformation dossier that Hillary paid for, there would have
been no approval of the fise of the application. On
the day he signed the first renewal, there were three renewals.
He was writing James Clapper, we're not able to sufficient

(28:00):
corroborate the reporting home he said about yes, the dirty
dossier anyway, that was finally made public through open records
lawsuit by the Southeastern Legal Foundation. Well that's a big
deal because then he signed a third fise the application,
the second renewal. I got to give a shout out

(28:23):
to my buddy Dan Bongino and his partners a parlor.
They have now resumed the social media app. That's good news,
and the new CEO saying the platform will remain true
to its free speech roots and has insulated itself from
future cancel culture. I'm sure it wasn't easy to do,

(28:44):
but for those of you that like to use social
media on your own, I am banned by my staff.
Linda never given me an explanation as to why I
am banned. I think the audience knows. Why do you? Okay,
what's the reason. Why should I say it? The audience
already knows. The audience knows why I don't have any

(29:06):
access to my social media accounts and I don't have
an email. They know that. That's correct. Do you think
they understand completely? I do? Actually, yeah, they probably do.
They really, they're wonderful people. I don't even I couldn't
get on if I wanted to. You guys have made
it so I can't possibly get on anything. That's true,

(29:27):
taking me years to perfect this, years and years. I'm
very proud of this work. Oh man, can you put
up like a disclaimer? Hannity has no No, Hannity has
no access to his own social media accounts. Yeast thy staff,
so they know. They know. Hannity dot com puts up

(29:48):
great news every day that that's access to. You can't
prevent that. You can see it and get it on
my phone. You can read it. I can still run
my head and staff. No, I don't have access to
posting anything on it, that's correct. That's a good point.
I have access to read it, that's right. Yes, I
probably could have access to read my Twitter account. I
just don't do it. This is true. You could reach

(30:09):
place I want to be us on Twitter. I don't care.
I just don't care. Days are fifty seven, the yay's
are fifty seven, the nays are forties three. Two thirds
of the senators President not having pretty guilty that he

(30:30):
Senator judges that responded, Donald John Trump, former President of
United States, is not guilty as charged the article's impeachment.
All right. That was Pat Lakey on the acquittal of
Donald Trump over the weekend, and it was a pretty
These are are sad and dangerous times when you could

(30:52):
literally now hold one party to one group of set
of standards and another party another set of standards. It
is extremely it's extraordinarily dangerous when evidentiary standards are completely bypassed.
It's dangerous. When Pat Lahey is presiding over the shift show, Charadas,

(31:16):
I call it, while he himself is ready on record
saying Donald Trump is guilty. That doesn't represent anything that
is that resembles due process, presumption of innocence in any way.
None of these videotapes that were used by the House
managers would ever have been admissible in a court of law.

(31:40):
Now add to that, there's a great exchange between one
of the president's attorneys, Michael Vanderveen as CBS anchors as well.
You know, there's only a little thing, a little They
literally altered evidence now that in any other real court

(32:00):
of law, who would be considered a huge problem. Listen
to how this exchange went down. Man, your question is
I want to be clear for our viewer. Listen, I
want to viewers about saying doctor and evidence. The media
has to start telling the right story in this country.
The media is trying to divide this country. You are

(32:22):
blood thirsty for ratings, and as such, you're asking questions
now that are already set up with a fact pattern.
I can't believe you would ask me a question indicating
that it's all right, just a doctor, a little bit
of evidence. There's more stuff that we uncovered that they doctor.
You have won the acquittal of your client. If you'd

(32:44):
like to continue to talk about this conversation, we can
have that discovered. But for me to ask a question,
a slanting question, a slanted question that was set up
to say it's okay for them to cheat. That was
your question. Isn't for them to cheat a little bit

(33:05):
said it was that's what you said. You got to
live by your word. That's the problem. The media has
to start living by the truth and not trying to
create a narrative. Michael Vandervene, thank you for joining us.
I do appreciate Yeah, okay, I see you taking off
your microphone now, all right, joining us. Now, Bruce castors

(33:29):
with us, Michael van derven Now, they had other whole
other team of lawyers too that deserve to be recognized.
And David Shone has been on this program many times. Uh, guys,
welcome to the program. Um. You know, I first, I
want to start with Bruce Um and Michael. You and
Bruce are partners in this law firm. Correct, Yes, and yeah,

(33:53):
you know I was critical of you on day one,
and then when I got the context of what had
actually happened, I felt like I was unfair to you
based on you weren't scheduled to speak at that moment
at that time, and it was I just got concerned
because I felt like opening remarks would always be fairly
scripted and tightened up. And now that I found out

(34:15):
the circumstances surrounding it, I think my comments to you
were unfair. So my humble apologies on that because what
you guys were able to put together in ten days
and then when this acquittal is is just a remarkable
legal feat eight day seun we had. I'm the fake media,
I got it wrong eight days. But you know, let

(34:38):
me let me let me tell you about what happened
that first day and explain what Bruce pulled off when
we got into that Senate chamber and they put on
two hours of video and audio, and you gotta understand,
they got a Hollywood production company to put together audio
and visual that would move people and play on people's

(35:01):
sympathies rather than actually dealing with the facts and the
allegations of what is incitement under a legal definition, uh,
particularly as it pertains to impeachment. But what the and
then one of the gentlemen presenting, you know, spoke of
his um recently deceased child and injected a lot of
personal emotion uh into into the into his presentation. When

(35:25):
he stopped, the air in the room was really thick
and full of emotion. So we walked out on our
break and Bruce, uh you know, leading the team, said, look,
I'm going to call an audible here we have to.
We were about to do just two hours of a
dry jurisdictional argument, which by the way, they'd already voted

(35:47):
on like a week before, and we weren't going to
win anyway. So Bruce said, I'm going to take about
thirty minutes and and change the temperature in that room. David,
trim yourself down for two hours to an hour and
a half and win a roll that way. He had
been working on his opening, but it wasn't due to
be presented yet, so he hadn't finished it. Um, and

(36:09):
as you saw, he just went up there, uh and um,
you know, in a kind of a real person way,
started to talking to him. Could have his tempo been
better or his rhythm been better, sure, but what he
went out there and did was a bold move. It
was an experienced trial lawyer move, having read the room,
and it was it achieved the effect. It was the

(36:31):
right decision to achieved the effect, cooled down the room
and allow us to proceed with the jurisdic jurisdictional argument.
It worked. It may not have been the prettiest thing,
but it worked. We would do it again. Um. It's
just so unfortunate how the media you know, really just
gave him a beating over it without having any real

(36:53):
solid understand That ought to be my first clue anytime
I echo anything in any manner that might be alignment
with them, considering they're so wrong so often, and what
note taken here? You know, I'm watching this whole trial, Bruce,
and I'm watching. Let's see, they're staging of photoshoot, they're

(37:15):
altering evidence. They and you guys did a great job,
I thought with these montages that you put up of
how what actually the President was saying on January sixth
versus what the house managers showed because it was deceptive, selective,
editing at a very high and sophisticated level. Again, nothing

(37:37):
rules of evidence if applied, normal rules of evidence in
a court of law, if applied, none of this would
be admissible. Am I correct? Yeah, that's that's true. And
worse than that, if Michael I had done that back home,
that we'd be standing in front of the Supreme Court
explaining to the Chief Justice why we shouldn't be thrown

(37:58):
out of out of the are I mean, it's just
awful stuff, and it's it's indicative of the the world
of Alice in wonderland that we found ourselves in when
we walked into the Capitol building. I watched this interview
Michael very closely over the weekend with the CBS anchor,
and I was you eviscerated her in terms of the arguments.

(38:23):
I was blown away. And that doesn't happen enough in
the media. Good for you, I'll tell you that that
thing has gone viral. I mean, you know, I think
I spoke what millions and millions of people around the
world's feel, Sean, And you know, I actually, when I

(38:44):
look back and I've seen the tape now myself, you know,
with the time delay and that kind of thing, it
appeared like we were talking over one another a little
bit more than we weren't than we actually were. But
it's really the content of what I said. I was saying.
And know, the media when I was a kid, you
watch the news and you get all the facts, and

(39:05):
you know, not too much opinion, and it's kind of
flipped a little bit, and and you know, I think
the press just has to do a little bit of
a self audit and you know, take be a little
self reflective and see how they can help cool the
passions in the nation. As well, and how they can
help bring you know, the left and the right a
little bit closer together, just to find the common ground

(39:28):
of the national priorities and you know, really move us
forward on infrastructure, and move us forward on the economy,
and move us forward on Michael, I've been doing this
economic equality, all that stuff. You know, I've been on
thirty three years. I've been on Fox twenty five years.
It's not happening. I mean, you think of Trump's presidency,

(39:50):
and for three solid years we got nothing but a
conspiracy theory, a full on hoax. Now that it has been,
every single thing we reported on these shows of mine
we got right. They got it wrong. They got Uva wrong,
they got Duke Lacrosse wrong, they got Ferguson wrong, they
got Baltimore UH, and Freddie Gray wrong, Richard Jewel wrong.

(40:13):
I could keep going all day here, and I pride
myself in getting things right. I'll tell you what we
found down there was in a big way, Washington is
broken and UM and UH. And they really catered to
the media. I mean, they are so concerned down there
about what the media cycle is and what they you know,

(40:35):
how the media will react. We were all very surprised
about you know, we're in the novice. We're not politicians.
We're just the lawyers, were citizens and uh and you
know we weren't we we weren't at dept at handling
all of that, but you know we were first. I
think as far as the Child team's perspective, you know,
from Bill Brennan to to Bruce Caster and myself, you know,

(40:59):
we were were all pull that. Um, what we did
in defending the Constitution and defending Bedrock constitutional provisions that
it set that Senate's eyes a little bit more focused on,
you know, the problems that that that this country has
moving forward in as I said, infrastructure or education. I

(41:21):
know people on both sides of all these issues, but
they need to work together and find the common ground.
You know, UM, and any Democrat at any point ever
come up to you and say you did a good job.
I doubt it. Well they actually did. Actually you know what, UM,
one person did one of the representatives hang on that

(41:46):
we lost somebody I think we lost. Her name was
Stacy Plasket. She actually gave a very smooth and uh,
a very good presentation in her case, and she came
up after a couple of days and introduced herself. UM.
You know, it was complimentary of the efforts we were
putting in. UM and you know the passionate zeal we had.

(42:10):
We also gave her, um, you know, uh compliments and
were civil with her. But you know, you're right. She
she was the only one. She was a real class
act um, Um, Miss Plaskett and uh. And it was
refreshing for us. Yeah, you know, you would imagine the
publics were very the Republicans were very hospitable to us.

(42:31):
They were very polite. Um. The interaction we had with
the Democrats directly, UM was almost non existent. There was
a lot of back room channeling between um, you know,
various staff members in this and that when we were
talking about witness stipulation and whatnot. UM. But uh, you know,
we're just we're just child lords. We went down there

(42:53):
to do our case and get out of there and UM.
And so you nearly ran into buzz saw with witnesses
and we thought for an hour or two, I guess
on Saturday that we had John. We we handle them
on that they they they they were they were more
afraid of witnesses than anybody. UM. And the whole silliness

(43:17):
about and actually it's just unconfionable to say that we
sent a letter to Donald Trump to have him come
in and participate and to and to bring exculpatory evidence. Well,
that's not the way it works. If they wanted mister
Trump in there, they could have suppeated him, and they
and they chose not to because they know they didn't

(43:38):
have any right to and it would be the wrong
thing to do in a judicial process. As far as
him bringing exculpritory evidence, it's their burden. They made accusations
that he insied incited the attack on the Capitol lead false.
It was premeditated. It was pre and by people far

(44:02):
on the right and far on the left, not where
the mainstream of married ninety five percent of the American
consciousness is. And they and they carried up there. Let
me give let me give Bruce the last word here,
because they're just running out of time in this segment.
A lot more on TV on Hannity tonight. Both of
you will join us. Bruce, you want to give the

(44:22):
last word here. We were prepared for that issue with witnesses.
We had made a list of three hundred plus witnesses.
We had them all ready to go and even had
their names down, and it was, in fact, if you
look at the tape, when the witness issue came up,
Mike and I leaned over and we were discussing, why
don't we just stipulate to letting her say whatever she
wants to say, because no one's going to believe anything

(44:44):
she has to say anyway, because it's a triple hearsay,
So so what let's just let it in. But that
was a decision that we figured we need to take
by the whole team, and so we took a breaking
and that is ultimately the idea we floated, and ultimately
that's the decision that they came down with. Thank you,
Ruce cantor, thank you Michael Vanderveen will have you both
on Haniday tonight. Congratulations, it was eight days and you

(45:08):
guys were successful. Congratulations. Not an easy task for any attorneys.
Thank you all right, twenty five to the top of
the hour, eight hundred ninety four one, Sean, if you
want to be a part of the program. One of
the other things Linda G. Graham said about Mitch McConnell
over the weekend, warning that McConnell's words and listen this

(45:31):
is the Republican establishment in their minds. Now, there's a
poll out today that about sixty five percent of Republicans
actually want another party. If that happens and the party fractures,
you got a huge problem. Okay, what's the huge problem
is now you're siphoning all votes. Can it be done successfully? Yeah?

(45:53):
But I think I truly believe that the establishment wing
of the Republican Party, as embodied by the likes of
Mitch McConnell, that it would be for some reason they
never they watched, but they didn't learn. And I'm not
saying you have to take on Donald Trump's style. There's
very few people like him. He's a disruptor, he's an iconoclass.

(46:16):
But the agenda and also there's one important ingredient here
that this is where they've never learned. Their lesson is that,
you know a lot of politicians, both parties, they go
to the swamp, they go to the sewer, maybe even
have the best of intentions, and then they get there
and then something happens. They love being called senator, they

(46:37):
love being called congressmen, and then you get the swampy
you know, the Gang of six, eight, ten, twelve or whatever.
Deals that are Republicans pretty much caving, and Republicans never
unite and have the same commitment to fight like the
entire Democratic Party, and people are fed up with it.

(46:58):
I mean, I think the great is the example of
what I'm saying is all those show votes in the
House of Representatives to repeal and replace Obamacare. Well that's
what Obama was president, and Obama would never sign that
into law. But then when they had the chance to
do it, they didn't get it done. They didn't even
have a plan that they all were united behind, already

(47:21):
ready to go. And we had given them so many
suggestions Concierge's care for every American health savings accounts, catastrophic
insurance coupled with Concierge's care like like Atlas MD and
doctor Josh Humber Wichita, Kansas. And then the Senate in
twenty fifteen they vote straight line Republicans, Yes, we would

(47:43):
repeal Obamacare's ritch straight repeal bill. Then seven of those
Republican senators two years later, when it mattered and Donald
Trump would have signed it, they were nowhere to be found.
They switched their votes. And this you know, and programmed
to rightly point out that McConnell to load on Republicans
back with his anti Trump speech after this whole thing

(48:05):
went on. Is just completely out of touch with where
his party is. And had there been a vote, I
would argue, if there's a vote among Republicans, do you
believe in America first, make America great again that agenda
or you want Mitch McConnell. I think he's out of touch.
He probably would lose nine to ten if he even

(48:28):
could get ten percent. And it's sad that, you know,
Republican why didn't he Where was he during the entire
crossfire Hurricane Russia, collusion, lie conspiracy theories? Where where was he?
Where was Senator John Thune? Where were most of these Republicans? Senators?
They were quiet, staying off TV, saying nothing. I mean,

(48:48):
it's it's it's sad. Democrats they're a lot better at
staying united and fighting than Republicans are. But that is
that old style establishment republican Ism is a by gone
error at this point. You know, it's funny because conservatives
were told often well, for the good of the party,

(49:10):
you know, well, it's a lesser of two evils, vote
for John McCain, a liberal Republican or are you gonna
get Barack Obama? Okay? I John McCain was not my
first choice, but John McCain was a lot better than
Barack Obama. Same with Mitt Romney. All right, let's go
to the great state of Florida, where everybody seems to
be moving these days, especially out of New York. David, Hi,

(49:30):
how are you. You're on the Sean Hannity Show. I'm
doing great, Sean, thanks for taking my call. So I
was seeing your show on Friday and you played a
clip by Cuomo. He was basically bragging about his states
numbers for the coronavirus, and I was like, that doesn't
sound right. So I went to the CDC website and
you know, Sean, what do you know? He was right?
And that is because the states numbers for coronavirus's death

(49:54):
her one hundred thousand are separated from the city of
New York. And if you combine those numbers to together,
would it shock you to know that he's either number
one or number two Union? I mean that just I
would love for you to follow up. You know, that's
one thing I had not picked up on. Nobody said,
but I tell you this effort now to remove him

(50:15):
is real. This is now taken on a momentum in
the state of New York. Former Governor of New York
George Pataki literally floating the idea of removing Cuomo from
office and saying that you know, his conduct regarding this
nursing home cover up has been reprehensible and that you know,

(50:35):
the cover up of nursing home death. And he said,
I think it would be appropriate to take a hard
look at the idea of removing Cuomo from office with
a recall movement. We see it now. It's taken on
a ton of momentum out in California. But unlike California,
New York has no legal procedure for recalling elected officials
in the middle of their term, and a serious effort

(50:59):
to create such a process was instigated by Patak. He
pushed for a constitutional amendment years ago. Didn't happen. But
I mean that there is a lot of anger here.
Biden now is telling Americans that they're gonna have to
wear face masks until twenty twenty two. A record high
number of Oh, go ahead, yes, sir Sean. They're talking about,
you know, shutting the state of Florida down and I'm

(51:20):
just laughing, you know, I mean, it's we Our governor
did everything you should do. He didn't shut the economy down.
He put lockdowns on nursing homes to protect our elderly.
It's just it's just one more example where the left
absolutely abuses statistics and the fact checkers. You know, the
lady the other day who went viral for going from
paying sixty dollars for her sons died her first son's

(51:43):
influence to three hundred dollars on't if you saw that story?
So I clicked on it, watched the video this woman's
and tears paying hundreds of dollars more? Would should be
surprised that Facebook check a fact check that isn't that fascinating?
And they wanted to correct the fact that Biden had
not actually rescinded this, He just put it on hold.
That's really easy to say when you're sitting in a
Facebook fact check office or wherever you are, and it's

(52:05):
really easy to say, oh, that's not that bad. Well,
that's great for you when you don't have to pay
thousands of dollars a more. Just my point is is
the amount of bias's I knew it was bad, but
it's getting unreal. Shot, And I'm grateful for you, and
I'm thankful for you. I'm thankful to be here every day,
trust me, and we're on to fire every second of

(52:27):
every day. All right, Dave, appreciate it by Cuomo. Now,
this is bipartisan condemnation he's getting, and many calls for
his resignation. And you have politicos now saying he should
give his Emmy award back, and even Deblasio no their
natural enemies, and he's calling for a full accounting of
all of this. And what a New York business is

(52:49):
doing well. They're following New York residence and getting the
hell out of Dodge and moving their businesses down to
Florida too. Mike and Ohio, Hey Mike, how are you?
Hey Sean, I'm doing well. How are you doing. I'm good? Sorry,
what's going on? Yeah, thank you for your time. I
appreciate it. You know, everybody's running around right now just
wondering how to use Trump. You know, he's been acquitted

(53:09):
and such. I've got an idea and I think it's
pretty strong. I think you run Donald Trump for a
house seat. You run Donald Trump in a House seat
in a red district somewhere. I mean, the Democrats have
been able to get an AOC in there, They've been
able to get it to leave in there, They've been
able to get who knows who they wanted in there.

(53:30):
But you run Donald Trump for a House seat, and
right now, in today's political climate, it is the best
place for him to sit. And then you dangle the carrot.
You dangle the carrot in front of seventy four million
people that Donald Trump is going to be your next
Speaker of the House. And if we can win five seats,

(53:50):
five seats is all we need. Shawn. You know, we
got to figure out a way to pull seventy four
million voters together. And the way you pull seventy four
million voters together you put Donald Trump back on a ballot.
It's interesting what you're saying. Look, there's no president though,
that is ever ever going to and I'm not trying
to be insulting to House members, that is ever going

(54:11):
to say, Okay, let me run for the House. Now
that I've run for president and I've been press it's
not unprecedented, Seahn John Adams was, I've been very aware,
but it's just I don't. Knowing Donald Trump as well
as I do, I don't think that would be an
option for him. Look, he was he was clear, He's
been very quiet. He put out a statement on Saturday

(54:32):
after the acquittal, and and it was clear in that
statement that he has a lot to share in the
months ahead. And I think he's been given a little
bit of time for some I think self reflection. I
think a little time to let all this pass, and
a little time to you know, watch. It's not going
to be long until people start saying miss me yet

(54:54):
hashtag Trump twenty twenty four. I could see that happening
any day. And because the policies as we've been going
over Joe Biden are so radically left, that's where we
have to get rid of. I mean, I'm really worried
about twenty twenty two. I'm not worried about twenty twenty four.
I'm worried about twenty twenty two. And to to make
a move like that, it would be the boldest, strongest. Listen.

(55:15):
I love I love creative thinking. It's it's pretty, it's
pretty genius and innovative on your party. I give you
a lot of credit. I do because you're thinking through it.
I don't think that would happen. I think he's either
going to make a decision run again or not run again,
and not when that decision comes, I don't know. It's
from the GOP standpoint, why wouldn't you put your best

(55:37):
player on the field for a must win game. A
must win game is in twenty two we have to
win the House and or the Senate, preferably both. If
he gets up and breaths on any given day, the
media is going to cover it that he I think
he is already the most powerful force today. He is
in the Republican Party, and I think he'll main so,

(56:00):
and he has indicated in the past that he's focused
on twenty twenty two, and I think we'll probably be
out helping a lot of people in a lot of ways. Again,
I don't have a crystal ball, can't say, but I
think that's what his intention is. And honestly, after four
or five never ending years of running, you know, a
thousand miles an hour every second of every day, I

(56:22):
think he probably is taking a well deserved break. And
you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt at some point
a book comes out and he tells his story when
he's ready, you'll do it. I mean, it's kind of
very uncharacteristic to him to be quiet this long. And
I'm sure when he does talk, he's gonna have a
lot to say, knowing him as well as I do.
All right, back to our busy telephones. Let's say, Hi

(56:45):
Henry in New Jersey. We got a minute Henry for you.
Hi Sean. First thing, God bless you, Rush, Thank you
all you guys are really working for us this country,
and we really appreciate it. And prayers especially for Russian Trump. Anyway, anyway,

(57:08):
I could talk to you for an hour if I mean,
but I know, I know, I can't. Um. You know,
I've been interested interested in politics for over fifty years.
I'm your age, but my dad got me into politics.
The Republicans have never done what they've said they were
going to do in all those fifty years. Trump's the
only one that has. And uh, you know, I don't

(57:31):
know whether the Republicans are cowards, they're stupid, or they're
complicit in all this because uh, you know, Trump showed
them how to fight and they just don't know how.
They still don't know how. They still don't know how.
I agree with you one hundred percent. They don't know how.
I'll tell you. There's another part of it too. It's

(57:53):
hard to fight. And there's a side of being in
the public eye that I've lived through my whole career.
I promise you that's not pleasant. And having a cancel
culture that has existed pretty much all my career. Um,
that is real, being under attack, under fire all the time.
It's you know, a lot of people don't have the

(58:14):
stomach for this, and I do, and Donald Trump does,
and there are you know, notice how few senators ever
go on television. Do you think that we don't reach
out to them? We do, They don't want to come.
They there, and there's a there's a lot of timidity
in them. There's a lot of fear in them. Doesn't
mean some of them are in good people. It just

(58:34):
means that it is what it is. They're not there
to fight. Um that you heard the montage that went
on ten minutes long in the trial. Democrats fight fight,
fight fight like hell, Fight like hell, Fight like hell,
fight fight, fight fight like hell. Fight you. They seem
to have more of a willingness to go in, go
in hard and Republicans, you know, lay back, and it's

(58:55):
unfortunate because the only way you're gonna get things done
is you've you've got to convince people that your ideas
will work. I believe conservatism, lower taxes, energy independence, less bureaucracy,
secure boarders, better schools, law and order, safety, security, constitutional justices,
free and fair trade, and piece through strength as a

(59:18):
winning agenda. I don't think it's hard. Go out and
tell the American people what you're gonna do, then do it,
and then run again saying I got I kept my word.
That's how you know politicians should be. But it seems
they make it a lot more complicated. Anyway, my friend,
thank you for a good call. When we come back,
David Shown, he's the one that laid out all of

(59:38):
that videotape in the trunk defense on Friday, he will
join us and explain all coming up as we continue
straight ahead, all right, news round up in information overload
hour eight hundred and nine four one sewn if you
want to be a part of the program. Now, we
have spoken with the attorneys that got the acquittal over
the weekend, and this latest impeachment shift shows charade which

(01:00:01):
we all told you from the beginning. It was a
predetermined outcome. A friend of this program, our friend David shown,
literally whacked the Democrats with incredible montages for lack of evidence.
And you know, one of the big issues here is, well,
if the FBI knew, as now we know from court

(01:00:24):
documents and FBI investigators and Congress Homan Acacio Cortez and
even the mob the media as we have been telling
you reporting that oh yeah, they this was all planned
in advance. Here's what David played last at the end
of last week. The house managers, facing a significant lack
of evidence, turned off into press reports and rumors during

(01:00:46):
these proceedings, claims that would never meet the evidentiary standards
of any court. In fact, they even relied on the
words of Andrew Feinberg, a reporter who recently worked for Sputnik,
the Russian propaganda outlet. You saw it posted. By the way,
the report they cited was completely refuted. The frequency with

(01:01:08):
which house managers relied on unproven media reports shocked me
as I sat in this chamber and listened to this.
And there's a lot that we don't know yet about
what happened that day. According to those around him at
the time reportedly responded Trump, reportedly, reports across all major
media outlets major news networks, including Fox News reported reported

(01:01:33):
reportedly summoned reportedly reportedly not accidental, according to reports, President
Trump was reportedly who reportedly spoke to the Guard and
was widely reported media reports. According to reports, reported reportedly
as any trial lawyer will tell you reportedly is a
euphemism for I have no real evidence. Reportedly, there's not

(01:01:59):
the standard in any American setting in which any semblance
of due process is afforded, and accused reportedly isn't even
here is some circumstantial evidence. It is exactly as reliable
as I googled this for you. And if you're worried
you might ever be tried based on this type of evidence,

(01:02:21):
don't be. You get more due process than this when
you fight a parking ticket. Wow. Powerful statement. David Shone,
civil rights attorney who joins us now. Honestly, as soon
as you have finished, I don't know which ones I
like bet are like the ten minute fight fight Fight, Fight, Fight, Fight,
fight fight like Hell, filight hell fightlight Hell, fight like Hell,

(01:02:44):
or the Democrat's own insurrectionist incitement language themselves or if
I like this one. But this is why David, you
don't do snap impeachments reportedly reportedly, this is why you
don't do snap impeachments for reportedly. Well, you're exactly right.
But the first point I want to make is you've

(01:03:05):
paide me a supreme compliment because I learned this from
the master from studying your shows to do this so effectively,
And it's not a gimmick. It's using people's own words
to demonstrate exactly what the facts are. And people seem
to get it better when they see it in living color. Yeah,
this is a real part of the snap in judgment
snap impeachment. Can you imagine the idea of impeaching a

(01:03:27):
president of the United States based on this? Guy Feinberg
or media sources and the house managers told the Senate
that we just don't have all the facts, while at
the same time Jamie Raskin told them this is a
very fact intensive investigation. You need to consider all the facts.
That is a horrible abuse of this politicized, weaponized impeachment process.

(01:03:50):
Never should have happened. The American people deserve much better
than this. Yeah, and this is the frustrating part of
all of this, never mind, I could not believe Mitch
mc connell's comments and take on this and the idea
that and this was I thought brought out by you
as well. If this is going to be the Democratic
Party standard, you can't have two standards, David. You got

(01:04:14):
to hold every person in elected office accountable. They've got
to be held to the same exact standard. Now, if
you mentioned Maxie Waters, or you mentioned Chuck Schumer, you
mentioned Kamala Harris, and I can keep going. They would
all they would all be impeached and put on trial
based on their own standards. And that too. You made

(01:04:34):
a great point approving well listen, you know there was
a question during the I wasn't able to tend to
question answer period because of my sabbath observance, but I
was able to hear one or two of the questions
before the sabbath began, and one of them was a
question Ted Cruz and others asked, and that was whether
it was thought to encourage incitement when a public official

(01:04:54):
bails out the rioters. I think the answer that our
side gave was just yes, but that wasn't adequate. The
real answer to that is, you know what Donald Trump
has been a law and order president for the entire
term he was in office. He gave a consistent message
for law and order all the way through. When you
have Democratic members of the Senate, Congress, House, other public

(01:05:15):
officials on the Democratic side appearing to endorse or support
or justify or otherwise bailout rioters and that sort of thing,
it sends a very different message. And the message there
is violence can be okay. That can be the message
violence cannot be okay in political advocacy, well agreed. And

(01:05:36):
you know what that was where conservatives were consistent and
Democrats weren't because all summer long, as the rioting went
forward in this country and major cities, day after day,
night after night, there was not only was there not
widespread condemnation, the silence was deafening. And then Kamala Harris,

(01:05:57):
they're not going to stop. They shouldn't stop. We shouldn't stop.
You you'd take note on both levels, you beware, I'm
like okay. And then fund, you know, then supporting a
bell fund to get rioters out of jail so they
could rejoin their comrades in the insurrectionist activities. If we
applied the standards to Kamala Harris, would she be impeached

(01:06:20):
and would she be put on trial? Sure, if you
applied the same standard, I mean, you'd have more than
a handful of folks on the Democratic side being impeached.
And I don't think that's the right answer either, But
that's it just illustrates also why this there never should
have been this impeachment proceeding. With all due respect, I mean,
Mitch McConnell was way at a line, way off base,

(01:06:43):
and what he said, there's no possible way anyone could
come to that conclusion, to the conclusion that this speech
or any other conduct by the president incited a riot.
Number one because it's not true. And number two because
at a very minimum they've acknowledged they don't have the facts.
The facts are just starting to come out about a
completely separate agenda planning by very bad, vicious criminals. You

(01:07:03):
took on Jamie Raskin from the Democratic House managers that
were making their case and the Senate floor, and Jamie Raskin,
interestingly himself, on his third day in Congress, stood up
to oppose Donald Trump's election. Oh he wanted his own audit.
Pretty interesting hypocrisy, but also you hit him on his

(01:07:26):
you know, for staging this photo shoot with the New
York Times and the manufactured tweets. Let's play it. We
have reason to believe that the house managers created false
representations of tweets, and the lack of due process means
there was no opportunity to review or verify the accuracy.
Consider these facts. The house managers, proud of their work

(01:07:49):
on the Snap impeachment, staged numerous photo shoots of their preparations.
In one of those, Manager Raskin is scene here at
his desk reviewing two tweets side by side. The image
on his screen claims to show that President Trump had
retweeted one of those tweets. Now, members of the Senate,
let's look closely at this screen, because obviously Manager Raskin

(01:08:13):
considered it important enough that he invited the New York
Times to watch him watching it. Now, what's wrong with
this image? Actually, there are three things very wrong with it.
Look at the date on the very bottom of the
screen a Manager Raskin's computer screen. When we zoom into
the picture, the date that appears is January third, two thousand, twenty,

(01:08:36):
not two twenty one. Why is that date wrong? Because
this is not a real screenshot that he's working with.
This is a recreation of a tweet, and you got
the date wrong when you manufactured this graphic. You did
not disclose that this is a manufactured graphic and not
a real screenshot of a tweet. Not to be fair,

(01:08:56):
the house managers caught this error before showing the image
on the Senate floor, so you never saw it when
it was presented to you. Wow. I mean, how do
you manufacture evidence like that? I mean it all started
out where the presiding judge in the case said already
predetermined and stated publicly his vote for guilt. That wouldn't happen.

(01:09:20):
You talked about evidentiary standards, you know, admissibility of evidence.
None of this would be admissible in any any real
court of law, would it? David? Absolutely not? And I
think the first point you made there is probably the
most important. Can you any American imagine facing any proceeding
in which your life or liberty is an issue? And

(01:09:41):
here what was at stake was trying an effort to
bar President Trump from ever running for office again and
to disenfranchise over seventy four million voters who voted for
him and would want to cast their vote again. And
for these proceedings, they had a judge of the fine
fellow this center Lais and a fine man that spoke
to him during but he issued a press statement, but listen.

(01:10:04):
He on January twenty seventh, he entered an oath, and
the oath said he swears to be impartial in his
consideration of these issues. Except two weeks earlier, in the
thirteenth of January, he issued a press release in which
he said President Trump is definitely guilty, and he's going
to vote to convict, and everybody else, including Mitch McConnell
and the Republicans, have to vote to convict. Then, he said,

(01:10:25):
as a judge in the case, who has all decisions
on evidence that comes in, and as a juror who
has a vote on an acquittal or conviction, that doesn't
happen in this country. You know, I watch all of
this and I just cannot believe that this is our country. Yeah,
I can. I cannot believe that we've descended into a

(01:10:46):
process where there's no due process, there's no no assumption
presumption of innocence. There there is not equal application of standards,
like there's no equal application of laws. I mean, you know,
you've been all over with us this whole issue of
the deep state, and you know, the biggest abuse of
power corruption scandal. Nobody's paying attention today to the fact

(01:11:11):
that in a January twenty seventh email to James Clapper,
the Intelligence chief, the former FBI Director Comy, you know,
the very day he signed Defies a surveillance warrant saying
everything's verified, and Christopher Steele's dossier remember Andrew McCabe, no dossier,
no FIES application, and writing Obama's outgoing intelligence community chief,

(01:11:37):
a very different assessment of the British spies intelligence on
Russia collusion. We're not able to sufficiently corroborate the reporting
he wrote in his email to James Clapper that was
declassified and made public. I mean, this is the smoking
gun email. But then he presented it not only had
previously signed DEFIES application, signed one that day and signed

(01:12:00):
a third one knowing that they couldn't independently corroborate it.
And now we know that Steele denied it was its
voracity and the subsource denied its voracity. That's America. Yeah,
you know, I'm glad you do the parallel by the way,
because I do think there is one here. My first
reaction was the Democrats just seemed to be tone deaf.
You had a Moller commission in which the head of

(01:12:21):
the commission was a partner in the law firm that
represents Hillary Clinton. He put on there the most bias
of folks who politically biased folks. He put on his
commission a lawyer who personally represented Hillary Clinton in her
email scandal, and of all things, an investigations implicating the
president of the United States. They put Andrew Weissman as
the lead investigator, who's simply, in my view, the most

(01:12:44):
ethically bankrupt prosecutor I have ever encountered in thirty six years.
That's the thought. What can you expect the American people
to believe from a commission like that? Now you see
this impeachment, no due process. You tell us you don't
have the facts, but they should convictim and borrow from
all because anyway, but it goes beyond being tone deaf.
It goes it's an utter disregard for the American public. Frankly,

(01:13:06):
it's saying, we don't need you to worry about integrity
of the process or anything like that. Just listen to
what we tell you. We're going to be vicious enemies
of Donald Trump, and we're going to use your constitution
and your process to go after your president. But don't
worry about it. Just trust us. We're doing what's best
for you. That's a horrible, un American approach. Oh, good

(01:13:26):
job to you, Good job to everyone on your team.
And I know you didn't even have a lot of
time to prepare. I mean, unbelievable. Thank you, David shown
as always eight hundred and nine four one sean our
toll free telephone number, all right, twenty five nounce at
the top of the hour, eight hundred and nine four
one sewn. You want to be a part of the program,
Lindsey Graham said a lot on Fox News Sunday this weekend.

(01:13:47):
Number one, you know, if we did a poll, ask
yourself and the poll was okay, do you support Mitch
McConnell's version of republican Ism old established wing or do
you support Donald Trump's America First agenda? If a poll
was taken today, what would the number be? Eighty five

(01:14:09):
ninety percent Trump maga America First. I mean, it's it's unbelievable.
It's that the Republican Party just has this. The establishment
wing of the Republican Party just never seems to learn
what it is that the American people want, and what
the American people want is not complicated. We talked all

(01:14:31):
about it last week. And the other thing about Republicans
is they never seem to know how to fight. Where
where were most of these Republicans during this whole deep
state FISA application, FISA abuse, premeditated fraud, Russia collusion, lies,
Ukrainian hoaxes. Where were they? How come with all of

(01:14:52):
the tape that we have from let's see Schumer, Pelosi,
Joe Biden, Maamala Harris, all the tape we have Maxie Waters,
where are they ever holding Democrats to the same standards
that they're holding Republicans too? Why don't they ever do that? Anyway?

(01:15:13):
Here's Lindsay Grammy was on Fox News Sunday talking about Okay,
Kamala Harris, you apply the same standard as I've been saying.
Guess what she gets impeached and put on trial. He's
the first president the ever impeached, be impeached without a lawyer,
without a witness, with our ability to confront those against
him and the trial record was a complete joke. Heresay
upon hearsay, And we've opened Pandora's box to future presidents.

(01:15:36):
And if you use this model, I don't know how
Kamala Harris doesn't get impeached at the Republicans take over
the House because she actually belled out rioters and one
of the rioters went back to the streets and broke
somebody's head open. So we've opened Pandora's box here, And
I'm sad for the country. Okay, is it? They're not
gonna stop. This is right after the police precinct burned

(01:16:00):
the ground in the middle of writing. That's been that
was breaking out over the country Minneapolis early in the time,
and raising money for people that go out and yeah,
then commit more crimes because we don't keep them in
jail because the bail fund that she was a part of.
All Right, a lot of you want to wag in.
Let's make that happen. Let us say Mo, the liberal

(01:16:22):
from Brooklyn. This is Mo. Mo has been calling the
show for years. Moe thinks I'm the most dangerous guy
in America. Do you still believe that, Sean? You get
more dangerous by the day, My friend, if I was
that dangerous than Donald Trump would have won the last
election and he'd be president right now. If apparently I'm
not as all powerful as you would you would suggest

(01:16:43):
that I am. Well, Sean, I picked the election on
at ten thirty on election night when I saw what
was happening in Arizona and Nevada, and yeah, there wasn't
much anybody could do. You know, Donald put himself on
the line, and you know, I don't know how many
votes we won by, but it was at least seven million.

(01:17:03):
And you know the problem is, and even you should
be concerned about this. And Democrats, you know, as long
as they got the result they wanted. But when the laws,
the statutory language says the partisan observers should be able
to watch the vote count start to finish and it
doesn't happen, that should concern you. When a when a

(01:17:24):
state constitution like Pennsylvania has very strict limits on mail
and voting, and then they don't they bypassed their own constitution,
that should concern you. Same with Wisconsin state law. Go ahead,
Sean Man, I was a poll watcher. I know what
happens at the polls I've been there. Voting should be

(01:17:45):
much more accessible to Americans, all Americans. And about voter ID,
do you support voter ID? No, I don't support voter
ID because my mother was able to vote. She's ninety eight.
She has no VALOT, she has no valid ide. Your mom. Well,
we can get your mom valid ID. I promised there's
a way to do it in New York where you are.

(01:18:07):
That's fairly easy, even if she doesn't want a driver's license.
And I'm sure you'd be in the loving son that
you are, you would help your ninety eight year old,
wonderful mom. I already talked to Chuck Schumer. He said
he'd take care of it if we needed it. We
were more concerned about her the last time she left
the country. They weren't going to let her back in
because she only had her citizenship papers from nineteen forty

(01:18:28):
eight with her maiden name. Oh yeah, yeah, we gotta
get your We gotta get your poor momm up to
speed with some ID. I think you can't get into
a Democratic national convention without photo idea? Did you know
that you can't get Look, Suan, I work in secure
places all the time. I know what the idea is.
He'd be nice. So if we want integrity and confidence

(01:18:49):
in election results. We should have voter ID, we should
have chain of custody, very strict, rigorous standards. Um, I
think I think mail in voting, if you're gonna do it,
you gotta have voter ID. We need real signature verification.
And I think that's to protect the integrity on both sides,
so that people will have confidence in election results. And

(01:19:10):
I think that would be a good thing for the country,
don't you. Well, I agree that election should be above
and well, you know, there's always been. It's a famous
story of Kennedy. Well, Nancy Pelosi complained bitterly that twenty
sixteen was stolen. Hillary said that Trump was an illegitimate president.
Stacy Abrams still hasn't conceded her race. I don't see

(01:19:30):
anybody upset about them complaining. Did you did you know
what happened with Kennedy and West Virginia when he was running?
How about Kennedy? Yeah? How about Kennedy in Illinois? Yeah,
I know all about it. In West Virginia, his campaign
manager sped through every small town in West Virginia and
gave the sheriff five grand if he get them to
vote for Kennedy and they won. So you approve of

(01:19:53):
such things? Is that what you're saying, Moe from Brooklyn?
What's that you approve of this? Well? I I think
elections should be run fairly, and well you can't. How
do you then? If you want them fair? Partisan observers
should observe, chain of custody should be respected, signature verification
and voter ID. It's pretty simple. It's not that it's

(01:20:15):
not that rigorous a standard, Sean. Everybody knows what happens
at the polls. You know, the lady who I go
in and side assigned over for thirty years. I look
at my signature over all the years I vote, is
they're all different. Sub I'm never gonna I'm never gonna
change your mind, but I'm trying. I've been trying, Moe
for years. All Right, you'll give you the last word.
The last squord I gotta say to is Sean, is

(01:20:37):
I am so happy that you've done so well over
the years since we've been talking. And I'm really proud
and happy whenever I get a chance to call in
and say hi to Yet, you know, I can't hate Mo.
For the people in this audience. MO has been calling
me for years, and we've been arguing for years, and
I still look. There's something about the quality of your voice.

(01:21:00):
It's just the sincerity that is infuriatingly nice. All Right,
we God bless you, my friend. God bless your mom too. Okay,
let's say hi, let's let's go to Texas. Maybe we
can get some some reasonable viewpoints in Texas. Andrew, how
are you. I'm good, Sean. Thank you for thank you

(01:21:20):
for you do for a country every day. Man. And
that previous college just reminded me of your dates with
Alan Colmes. It was it was pretty cool just to
just to hear that. Being By the way, we're praying
for our friends in Texas. I know you guys. The
temperatures are really low, the streets are really dangerous in
a lot of places. A lot of prayers for our
friends in Texas, and uh, hang in there. The temperature

(01:21:43):
will come back and melt the ice and etc. Well
we appreciate that. Yeah, we've got about five inches of
snow down here in San Antonio and some ice too,
so we're not used to that. But now I know,
I know, and be careful with that ice. If it's
on the pavement. You can't see it and so driving
it can be treacherous. Just be careful. You know, if
there's an older person living on your block, maybe you

(01:22:04):
go make sure check in on and make sure they're okay.
Maybe they if that power goes out, maybe you can
lend them a space heater if you have one. Just
you know, everybody helps everybody. Well, we will do that, man,
Thank you, Thank you, Sean. What else is on your mind? Well,
my question is I understand that since the acquittal this weekend,
I'm looking at this in two parts. One, since Justice

(01:22:26):
Roberts didn't preside and Senator Lahy is not Chief Chief Justice,
we understand it is unconstitutional. But my big question is
is that how is it that we can go forward,
either as the American people or as you know, representatives
and senators in Congress where they can bring a litigation

(01:22:48):
suit all the way to the Supreme Court to clarify
how Congress can impeach presents going forward. And the reason
why I'm saying this is because I know we can't
do anything about it now, but looking to the future,
I know that's very murky, you know, in the Constitution
of how how it has to be and it's very
limited on the language of explanation of impeachment. So it's like,

(01:23:12):
we can just impeach just to impeach. And what it
does is it makes our country weaker, and it also
makes our country weaker in the eyes of our enemies
because we are just playing this political game. And then,
you know, say in two years, we don't like what's
going on and the Republicans get back in, we can
just impeach you know, Joe Biden, we can impeach you know,
Kamala Harris, We can impeach whoever we want. And I think,

(01:23:34):
you know, we're setting a dangerous precedence going forward, um
and not understanding the integrity of why it was it
was done to begin with with our founding fathers. Look,
is this all dangerous? Have we now? Have we now
opened Pandora's box that impeachment is going to be at
the drop of the hat if there was, If if

(01:23:57):
the same standards used by Democrats where used by Republicans
against Democrats, the answer would be yes. Do I expect
Republicans will ever do that? No? You know, the one
thing they didn't never learn from Trump is that you
gotta fight hard, and Trump fought them hard. That's one
of the main reasons he's so hated and exposed Republicans

(01:24:17):
and Democrats Listen. I would argue that Donald Trump's election
in twenty sixteen was as much about the Republican Party
being weak and feckless and visionless and incapable of keeping
promises that it created the door, the opportunity, the path
for a disruptor to knock out seventeen other prominent Republicans

(01:24:40):
win the nomination and then win the presidency. And you
can see the passion by which people support Donald Trump
in large park because he made promises, he kept him
and he fights back. Now a lot of people are
offended by him fighting back, and they feigned their outrage
in the media, but Democrats usually stay pretty united. That's
one big distinct. Anyway, Hang in there in Texas to Andrew.

(01:25:02):
Praying for our friends down there, Eric and the socialist
utopia of California. Next, Eric, how are you. I'm doing good, Sean,
Thank you very much, and thank you for taking my call.
Thank you. Try to keep it quick here so and
get your answer first of all. Yeah, socialist California, but
I'm not one of them. But we have to get

(01:25:23):
out of here one way, one way or the other.
But after the just complete sham of the impeachment and
stolen election, my wife and I are you know, we're
very conservative Republican patriots, but we are thinking of leaving
America and we're not actors. And let me give you

(01:25:46):
a quick background before I get your opinion on this. Um,
my dad and my uncle were freedom fighters in the
Hungarian Revolution of nineteen fifty six and they literally had
to escape or they would have been killed for sure.
And they did come here as legal refugees, became legal citizens,

(01:26:06):
you know, the whole whole whole nine yards. Um. I've
been going to Hungary since I was aged seven, so
I grew up in a communist country. And um, besides,
besides the election and the impeachment, Uh, just all the
hatred and division in this country. And I don't see

(01:26:27):
it going away going away anytime soon. UM. I mean,
we're just we're just heartbroken. It's what that happened, you know. Okay,
go ahead, sir, I'm sorry. Now in Hungary, UH, they
have probably some of the safest borders in the world.
Freedom of speech, capitalism, you know, no PC, none of

(01:26:50):
the new words every day like canceled culture. I can
you know, I can't even keep up. You know, it'd
be like moving back to the thirties forties, and you know,
we just want peace. And let me look, I don't
have a lot of time, and I want to give
you a full answer because you deserve one. I would
rather fix this country because I don't think there's a

(01:27:12):
better place on the face of the earth in America,
and we need a strong America for the world to succeed.
There's been plenty of articles written about the fact that
twenty twenty, you know, we have more Americans now doing
exactly what you're suggesting. The first half of twenty twenty
broke a record of five thousand, four hundred and nine

(01:27:32):
Americans again the first six months. They gave up their
citizenship for a variety of reasons, and a lot of
you know, it's taxes, its regulations, it's a lot of reasons.
And I'd rather fix the country. I think the left
is already overreaching, and I'd rather keep all hands on deck,
focus on the things that we as conservatives know would

(01:27:54):
work and be good for the American people, and to fight.
To quote, all of the Democrats in a ten minute
montage played last week. Fight and fight with all you've
got for the principles that guide this country to success
and prosperity and freedom. Liberty. The cause of liberty and
freedom is it never stops. I would like to stay

(01:28:15):
the United States of America. That's my first choice by far.
All right, Hannity tonight, say edbr nine Eastern Fox News.
We're loaded up. We have the three attorneys for Donald Trump,
David Shoon, Bruce Caster, and Michael vander ven who had
a big fight. Man, it was g just eviscerated this

(01:28:35):
anchor on CBS over. Oh, just a little bit of
manipulation of evidence. Okay, it's actually funny. We'll show it
to you. Don Junior tonight, Dan Bongino tonight, Jason Chaffitz,
Matt Gates, Janis Dean on the coronavirus New York Scandal.
Nine Eastern say edbr. Hannity, Fox will see you then,
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