November 18, 2025 • 28 mins
Sean Hannity leads a critical discussion on the devastating aftermath of the Pacific Palisades fire, where government mismanagement is in the spotlight. Highlighting new LA Times revelations, Sean frames the tragedy as the product of failed state and local leadership, with empty reservoirs, unmonitored smoldering, and absent elected officials like Mayor Karen Bass and Governor Gavin Newsom. Joined by guest John Kahn Breitbart editor and a victim who lost his home and Senator Rick Scott of Florida, the show explores how rebuilding efforts have stalled, victims face exorbitant costs, and Republican Senators from other states are forced to step in due to local inaction. This matters because, as Sean underscores, it's a stark warning of how government inefficiency can amplify disaster and leave citizens abandoned.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hour two Sean Hannity Show, Toolfrey, here's on numbers eight
hundred and nine to four one, Sean. If you want
to be a part of the program. You know, the
country right now is, whether people are conscious of it
or not, are going through a massive amount of reflection
about what they're expecting out of their government. I mean,
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if you look at this lunatic running in Maine with
his Nazi tattoo, and you know, a New Green Deal, radical,
cradle to gray, womb to the tomb, socialist is I
never thought Karen Bass and Los Angeles, the mayor out
there is incompetent as she could be whatever be challenged
from the left. You have this new Seattle mayor who
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up until defeating the incumbent democrat, another Mom Donnie radical socialist,
slash communist, whatever you want to call them, and then
Mam Donnie in New York. This is now and they're
saying it, this is now the new model for the
Democratic Party. Bernie Sanders said it. He wants to spread
a nationwide Now. I urge everybody and the Green New
(01:02):
Deal in AOC, who's the real leader in the House
of Representatives will defeat Chucky Schumer. If she challenges him.
But I want you to think of these things, those
of you that look towards the government to be the
answer to all of the problems in your life. Ask
yourself and your town, in your city, and your state.
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How are your government schools doing now? In my free
state of Florida, they're actually doing very well. And yet
it is some of the lowest taxes in the entire country.
But if you look at blue cities, blue states, it
is atrocious. We spend nationally, per capita, more on education
for our children than any other country in the industrialized world,
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and we have the worst results. How's that Obamacare thing
working out for you? Keep your doctor, keep your plan.
Average family saves twenty five hundred dollars per family per year.
Millions lost doctors, millions lost plans. For over forty percent
of the country, they have one Obamacare exchange option. If
they're lucky, they have two, but neither one is any good.
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And you're paying a whopping two hundred and twenty five
to three hundred plus percent more for Obamacare and it's
not working for people. You know? How is that defundismantled
no bail law? Reimagine the police working out in your
blue city or your blue town or your blue state,
not very well in most cases, which is why Donald
(02:26):
Trump is sending you know, troops to places like Memphis
and d C. And Chicago, et cetera to restore law
and order. Now North Carolina, so a lot of people
put their faith, their hope, their trust, their belief in
government and putting aside the Department of War. I don't
know that much that the government has a great track
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record of doing particularly well. Remember they told all of
us that they would put your money that you have
paid in all of your working life into a Social
Security lock box. Well, those guys in Washington, with the
decades have rated the lock box and it's headed towards insolvency,
just like you know, Medicaid, Medicare and states, they're all
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headed towards insolvency because they've been mismanaged. And this is
the lunacy and the false promise of socialism. I wrote
a whole chapter live Free or Die Socialism. It's history
of failure. You know. Now we're learning a lot about
the Pacific Palisades. It's you know, over ten months later,
nearly a year later, and where are we when we've
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learned new revelations thanks to the La Times and a
series of articles that they've written, that days before the
major fire, there had been a smaller fire. Firefighters alerted
their battalion chief that there was still smoldering areas that
needed to be monitored, and lo and behold, they were
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taken off the job rather than monitoring it, and before
this reignited into the massive fire days later, thousands of
homes destroyed, twelve people killed. And then we learned something else.
We learned of incredible failure on the state local level
in terms of they, for example, we had reservoirs specifically
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designed for fires that are predictable. In this area, wild
fires are very predictable. They don't practice the science of
forestry in California because of environmental concerns. In other words,
they don't clear the kindling in the brush that is
around you know, these homes, and that just adds fuel
to the fire. Literally, we have the science of forestry,
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we have, you know, for example, they put in you know,
we had fire hydrants that had no water, we had
reservoirs that were empty, and all of this happened. And
now we're being told, oh, yeah, they pulled out the
firefighters before the previous fire was completely extinguished, which makes
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absolutely no sense at all. You might call at the time,
Gavin Newsom. At least he was in the state. I
give him credit for that. Who's confronted by a woman
who's now working for Steve Hilton and trying to get
him elected governor as a Republican which is a near
impossibility of my view in the state of California. Remember,
she desperately goes up to the governor and this is
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what the governor said, that was my daughter's school.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Governor, please tell me what you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm can hurt of my promise.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm literally talking to the president right now to specifically
answer the question of what we can do for you
and your daughter?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Can I hear it?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Can I hear your call?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Because I don't believe it?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I'm sorry, can I There's literally I've tried five times.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
That's why I'm walking around, Jamake, I'm a president not
taking your call because it's not going through. Why I
have to get self service. Oh, I'm talking to the
president literally right now, and can I hear? Well? I'm
trying to get the president interesting answer, and of course
Karen bass Well, she wasn't even in town. She was
(06:00):
at the swearing in of the new president of Ghana,
an event I'm sure that obviously requires the attendance of
the mayor of Los Angeles. But here's what she is
being peppered with questions upon her return, and she is very,
very detailed, very articulate answers.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent while
their homes were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire
department budget by millions of dollars?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Madam Mayor?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Have you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing
to say to the citizens today? Elon Musk says that
you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor?
Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today?
Her dealing with this disaster? No apology for them? Do
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you think you should have been visiting Ghana while this
was unfolding? Back homes.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Thing, not a peep joining us. John conn Breitbart Editor,
by the way, the artist behind the hit song Fighter
that brought America's resilience to life. Following the attempted assassination
of President Trump, he lost his house in the Pacific
Palisades fire, and by the way, I had a guest
on last night and said, not one home has been rebuilt.
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Not one. Also with us, Senator Rick Scott of Florida,
listen to the victims and witnesses of the Pacific Palisades
fire who are being suppressed and shunned by the entire state.
Welcome both of you. John Let me first offer my
deepest condolences. I'm so sorry. The mayor, the governor all
said they'd expedite these permits. My understanding is nobody can
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get a permit. What's happening out there.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
It's very difficult right now, Sean, thanks for having me back.
I just want to thank Senator Scott and Senator Johnson
for leading this crusade to get to the bottom of this.
It's stunning to me that two Republican senators who are
not even from the state are the ones the charge
to get to the bottom of what happened to what
is essentially a Democrat thronghold of the Palasage with all
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the Hollywood folks. But from what I understand, it's insane
to get a permit. People are wrestling with insurance. I
was back in LA a couple of months ago and
my neighborhood has completely leveled still, and there almost seems like,
you know, it's this ram Emmanuel quote about never let
a good crisis go to waste. It almost feels like
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between the insurance companies and the local government and state
government that they're trying to break the collective will of
the Palisadians, and sadly from the folks I've talked to
you that are there right now. I'm currently in Nashville.
It seems to be working because people are throwing up
their hands saying, I don't want to start my life
again in two or four years. I want to start now.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Well, I mean, I don't know what they're supposed to
do now. I'm very fortunate that I live in the
Free State of Florida. Senator Rick Scott was governor of
the state, and he was phenomenal in the midst of
many crises, including natural des including how many hurricanes did
you have when you were a governor of the state
of Florida, Don, I had.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Four major hurricanes. One arm was bigger than the state
of Florida. I went out John. First off, I just
will tell you my heart goes out to you listening
your home. I watched this after hurricanes and and the
fact that you know the local and state government doesn't
do anything to help you is just you just get
the whole community restarted. I went out there and met
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with Spencer Pridde in August, and I just was shocked.
I mean, street after street, there's just nothing. I mean
it just burnt down home, street after street after street,
and there's like there's nothing happening. There's there's there's almost
no construction. And so you know, we're gonna look. My
my goal is to get to the bottom of this.
(09:45):
Number One, it's unfair to these families. Number Two, the
federal government has spent a fortune on wild wildfire suppression.
This should never ever have happened. Ever and then there
and then as we know that there was a fire,
they they left before it was put out. I'm not
a firefighter, but I've been around when they put out.
(10:05):
We have you know, the Everglade catches on fire a
little bit, you know, every year or two. And we
spent a lot of time there putting water and water
and water and turning over the dirt, and they said
it was smoldering. Then they left and then not fill
up the reservoirs. Spencer craze. There's a there's a reservoir
three doors for his house. He always thought it was
full of watering and there hadn't been any water in forever,
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he said. And then the other reservoir they it was empty,
the big reservoir for the palace. So the firefighters that did,
they came, I mean, there was no water for him.
And then you heard from these residents there was no plan.
There's no evacuation plans, there's no evacuation routes. And then
you can't get a permit to rebuild. I mean, this
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is so unfair. And then the state insurance plan, right,
it doesn't cover your costs, Spencer says. Spencer says, you know,
the money he got will barely pay for pilings for
his house. And then they change the rules for what
you have to build now so much more expensive, and
his property taxes are going to go up. And of
course if you can get property insurance, you know, which
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is very difficult because of you have a new simbel
what he's done to the states, and church companies don't
want to do business there. He's feel so sorry for
the people. So we had great we had six you know,
victims out there, including Spencer, and then some people from
the audience typed up and brought the issues they had.
So you just your heart goes out to what's going
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on out there. Just it's just empty shot. It's just
you're just shocked. It's just nothing built. It's just a
burnt down areaful a centater.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I've known you forever, We've been friends forever. When you
were governor, We've became very good friends because you were
always visiting New York with Bobby Jendle and Governor Rick Perry,
and you were all up in New York and you
were you were courting businesses to move to your respective states,
and you were very successful at it, let's be honest.
And it cracked me up because every time you guys
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were in New York, I put you in studio and
we became good friends. And I'm honored to have you
as my senator. And if this happened and you were
the governor, where would we be right now? First of all,
these are predictable wildfires, predictable Santa Ana wins. I know
because I lived there in the eighties. I know all
about southern California well, and you.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Know Sean, they did. It's like we do prescribe burns
on our state property. So what you do is you
get rid of the brush because if you know it's
the rushing to get there and it gets right, it's
going to catch on fire. Shocking, Right, in California, they
have all this brush that they don't get rid of
the brush. You have you have to do that.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That's called forestry. You can get a degree and then
from so many schools around the country.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, and they just let them. And it's around these
beautiful areas like the Palisades and Malibu and this stuff,
and so they just they it's a tinderbox. And then
they're they're shocked. And then they were saying that because
put so much money because she I guess she wants
more homeless people in California. So you have homeless people
out there, and they'll they'll start a right because they're
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trying to stay warm when it gets when it goes down.
So sometimes that's what starts to this stuff. So but
it's like it's no one cares. It's like fast and newsome.
You know, whatever the system is, they don't care if
they don't show up. The other thing, Sean when I
had a hurricane, I showed up. I got six million
people to evacuate before.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Not only I know for a fact, not only did
you show up, you didn't sleep, you worked around the clock.
You didn't leave. You didn't leave people hanging. People were
taking care of you know, before, during, and after, and
the follow through was complete. You'd never gave in.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
No, these are people right, You're like, my goal was
nobody die, nobody die, keep them alive. We can rebuild everything.
You're gonna have a hurricane. I can't stop the hurricane.
And then what we did. Then, what we did is
we help people rebuild as quickly quickly as you can.
I mean, this is this is what John ten months
since the house is burned down, and so it's almost
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like nothing like him ten months nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Let me ask John, John, how many homes have been rebuilt?
And do you also have to pay your normal property
taxes on these properties?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Well, they gave us a little break on the property taxes.
Thought with how much you pay normally, it's not a
break for the land you can't do anything with. And
what's worse is you have to hold onto your insurance policy.
So now I'm paying for a year of insurance a
couple thousand dollars or so for in case somebody stumbles
onto my dirt and falls reliability.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Let me come back to both of you, because this
is too important. I don't want to rush through it.
If you both can stay just like five more minutes,
I promise we'll get right back to you. Eight hundred
and nine four one. Sean will continue with John conn
and my Senator Rick Scott of Florida. I mean, it's
taken Rick Scott in Florida to help the people in
the Pacific Palisades. Pretty spectacular. We'll continue. Ya listens to
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Sean Hennedy and he's on on on right now, all right,
we continue. I mean, it's unremarkable to me. We are
ten months out. You know, the before we had empty
hydrants and empty reservoirs out in California. There's no the
science of forestry was not practiced in the state of California. Rather,
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and in California, you know, all these homes burned down,
twelve people dead, and people have to still pay an
enormous amount of money for insurance and property taxes even
uh and they cannot get a permit to rebuild their home.
And their life. It is a spectacular failure. I applaud
my Senator Rick Scott were going out there and trying
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to help the people of California because the government out
there is that incompetent. But John con Breitbart editor, lost
his house. I was asking you before the break about
you know, you have to maintain insurance on the property
even though there's no house there, and you have to
do you have to pay some property taxes also, I
wasn't quite clear on that.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, you do. I mean they waived some of it.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But it's still what do you mean waves some of it?
I mean, how much do you have to spend a
year for your burnt down house?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Well, it's it's about I think I own like another
ten grand in a couple months.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And I'm sorry, how much do you spend a year?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Well, that's that's what I owe in a couple of months.
I think it's about ten thousand dollars for property tax
and that's.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
With a break.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
They're charging you ten thousand dollars in property taxes, but
they won't give you a permit to rebuild your home.
You've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
In the thing and how much do you pay annually
for the insurance for a home that doesn't exist on
that property?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Well, that's that's about I think it was about fifteen hundred.
That's just in case somebody stumbles onto your dirt and tricks.
That's for liability.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So eleven five hundred dollars a year year. And now
on top of not having your home, not getting a permit,
having to find in another place to live. Now you
moved to Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Correct, I'm in Nashville now, yes, are you going back?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Are you going to sell your lot and probably lose
a fortune on that end of this deal?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You know?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
I don't know yet, Sean. I mean the problem is
the insurance is a big problem as well, because it's
like whack them all with like for State Farm, it's
whack them all with their adjusters. You start dealing with
one and then they switch to another one. I think
I've been through five, and every time you have a
new one, you have to start over and they have
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to get familiar with your case. I don't have my money.
My house is to rebuild. My house would be well
worth well over the cap that they owe me. But
they're delaying and delaying and delaying, so until you know
what money you are going to get, you don't even
know if you can rebuild, so you can't even apply
for a permit.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Let me go back to Senator Rick Scott, Senator, honestly,
you do such a great job for us here in Florida.
I really do applaud you for trying to help people
out because this is this is an unmitigated disaster. And
you know all about this because there's there are wildfires.
But we've practiced forestry here in Florida, so you mitigate
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the damage. And you're all over natural disasters as governor,
and the same with Governor DeSantis. You guys are all
over disasters. We're the best at it, uh to be honest,
and we get we get a lot of natural disasters
out here, Sean.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
The other issue that John's deal with them people have
Palin States is you have to apply for a permit,
and it's not cheap. It's not like five bucks. What
I was told there was tens of thousands of dollars
to apply for a permit and they've barely given they've siding,
you know, John, what I was told is they just
in permit fee. So far, they've raised thirty million dollars
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and just like a couple hundred people have gotten permits.
When I was out there last week with siner Ron
Johnson doing this investigation hearing, there was almost no houses
being built. And when I talk to people, they said, well,
if they are building the house, they got that permit
before before things were burnt down. So I don't know
if that's what you're hearing, but it's also thousands of dollars.
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And then that they've changed the rules on what you
have to build, so it costs way more money to build,
all right. And then they've ruined the insurance market, so
the insurance never covers all the costs. So it's it's
like it's like it's everybody that it's like the whole
government's against the Palistates.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And then there are people Senator, and I know you
have to run in a minute. That's why I'm going
to ask you one last question. And then there are
people now pushing and you see this all over the
country cradle to grave, womb to the tomb zoron Marxist
Kami Mumdani politics. We see it in Seattle, we see
it in Maine, even La Mayor bass is being challenged
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from the left. I mean, if she's if she's not
left enough, I don't know. I mean, this is insanity
to me. Nobody should die. If I was in call point,
get out leave now. Well, a lot of people already have.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Well you know when I when I became governor back
in twenty January twenty eleventh, you know, very few people
from California were moving. Actually nope, we had lost more
people in twenty ten because the economy is so bad
in Florida. So we add at one point seven million
jobs down as governor. But I recruited people like you said,
New York. It was easier in New York and New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You were, you were, It was hilarious. I saw you
up there all the time. We became best friends.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
But I went to out to California. We ran ads
for Perry and I ran ads out there. But now
there's so many people leaving California and thinking about California
is beautiful, but it's it's you know, unless you're wealthy,
you can't afford to live out there, or you have
to be really poor where they give you everything for free.
So think about this. The taxes are so high. But
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their schools are not as good as Florida. The universities
are not as good as Florida. The law enforcement, right,
you know, they don't like their law enforcement. They want
to defund the police. So Bath hates you know, you
know she you know she's cut the you for the
fire department. You realized that before the fire.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That was a brilliant move to Senator. I'm going to
keep my word and let you go at your schedule time.
Thank you for being with us. We appreciate you taking
the time, and I'm grateful that you are my senator
here in the Free State of Florida. Thank you, John.
I'll give you the last word, and I want to
just echo what I said earlier and what the Senator said.
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I feel so sorry for you and your family. I
really do. My heart goes out to you. This is
exactly what I try to warm my audience about. Do
not put your faith, your hope, your trust, your belief
in government to be to get anything right, especially out there.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yeah. I appreciate that, Sean. I mean one thing with
Senator Scott said that really moves me in the wake
of something like this. He said, where are they? Where's
Gavin Newsom, Where's where? Where are our leaders?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
He's in Texas grand standing so he can make his
run for president, that's where he.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Was, Or in Brazil or on x with some you
know adolescent Twitter stream while people are trying to figure
out how to rebuild their lives.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Is Adam Schiff out there doing what Rick Scott and
Ron John are doing?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
No, and neither is Padilla. And we haven't heard hide
nor hair from those guys.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And like, wait a minute, they're Democrats, right, Aren't they
supposed to be compassionate? Aren't they the ones that preach
that they care the most, that they have a monopoly
of compassion for people.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
It really is, you.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Know, it's so fascinating about watching Gavin Newsom is there's
this distance to him. It's almost, you know, I hate
to say it's sociopathic. How he can you know, claim
to be ready to lead the country when he's left
his own citizens out to try He's not there where
How many times have you been to the pala Fates.
He's in Brazil getting climate change recognition and.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
It's really I'm a change And he doesn't practice simple
you know, forestry science, and he doesn't have reservoirs. You
know what his answer was on reservoirs and being empty
and fire hydrants being emptied. Oh, you're going to have
to ask local officials about that. That's not I'm not
in charge of that. Where does the buck stop out
in California? I would think with the governor.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah, a million gallons in that reservoir that weren't and
it was empty. A million gallons they could have had
of water.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Well, I wonder how many homes could have been saved
if they practiced the science of forestry, because you have
predictable wildfires. They have a wildfire season and predictable Santa
Ana wins that you know you have those every year too.
Correct me if I'm wrong. So they should have been prepared,
shouldn't they have?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I think so? I think so? And I heard something
this morning. I don't know if it's confirmed yet, but
now the state is claiming immunity for many wrongdoing responsibilities
because supposedly they were unaware of that smoldering fire just
after on January first, and yet it just came out.
I read that they sent a state park representative to
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check it out that early that morning. So they're getting caught.
I think there are these after fire reports and some
of these reports that's coming out are really going to
chefs in mine on all the negligives from both the
state and local.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
John. I just mean this from the bottom of my
heart for you and all the victims and the families
that lost loved ones as well. In this. My heart
goes out to you, man, it really does. This is
an unmitigated financial disaster for most people that live there,
and I'm so sorry. You have my deepest sympathies that
you have to live through this hell as hell.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Well, thank you, Sean. You've always been really good to me,
so I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Hang in there, buddy, God bless you. Let's get to
our busy phones. We'll start in Miami, in the Free
State of Florida. Charles on the Sean Hannity Show. What's up,
Big Charles?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
How are you, sir Ah, I'm doing pretty good. Hey, Sean,
you're having problems with your blankets. Maybe you ought to
have them screenprints your name on them.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
No, it's not a matter of that. I have a
problem that my name is on them. I have two
wonderful children that are the you know, the greatest gift
God ever gave me and my children come visit their dad.
They're very close to their dad and I'm honored that
they are and houses. So what they do is they say, Dad,
can I have this? Well, what am I supposed to say?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It makes it tough.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Wait, I made It's not just tough, it's it's impossible
for me to say no. I can't say no to
my children on stuff like that. Now, if they ask
me for something ridiculous, the answer is hell no. But
you know they want a bubble cuddle blanket because they
like it that much. It's theirs anyway, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Well, I lived in South America. I lived in Venezuela
actually in the nineties into two thousand and I got
out two thousand and five because it was a slow
motion train, right. You watched them vote this guy in,
and you're telling everybody, don't vote for him, don't vote
for him again, don't do this, don't do that. And
they kept doing it. And my neighbor's property got confiscated
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by the government. He was an Englishman, had a cattle ranch,
and I tried to get him to confiscate mine because
the World Court paid him out of Petroleu State Venezuela.
I think he got two point three million dollars for
property worth three hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Right. Well, I mean, I'm just going to tell you
we've seen you look at Venezuela, Latin America one of
the richest countries and incomes Hugo Chavez, and now it's
one of the poorest countries and it continues under Maduro.
It's sad. I mean, I can't tell you how many
people I know the fled Castro's Cuba, and I've met
(26:46):
with them, I've sat with them, They've told me their
stories and the same thing there. I mean, Cuba should
be I mean, it should be one of the richest
islands around. It's so close in proximity to the US.
But you know, a lot of smart people in Cuba
said I'm out of here, and they came to America
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and having come from oppression and tyranny and even you know,
threats against their lives and confiscation and property and all
that they've experienced. You know, I find that the people
that live under those systems that come here often appreciate
the gift of liberty and freedom and the American dream
(27:31):
more than Americans, do we take for granted that which
was given us as our birthright, we take it for granted.
The people that lived under different systems that come here,
they seem to appreciate it more, which is often the case.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Well, you also run into the ones that have been
so indoctrinated, some of the Cubans that are here having
so indoctrinated that they always want to tell on their
neighbors about doing this or doing that, because that's what
they do to survive in Cuba.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Is I get it? That's all very real, one hundred
percent real. Uh, my friend, I have to run. We'll
take a break, we'll come back. We'll have more of
your calls on the other side. Eight hundred and nine
four one sean our number if you want to be
a part of the program. We got a great, great
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we continue
Hour two Sean Hannity Show, Toolfrey, here's on numbers eight
hundred and nine to four one, Sean. If you want
to be a part of the program. You know, the
country right now is, whether people are conscious of it
or not, are going through a massive amount of reflection
about what they're expecting out of their government. I mean,
(00:20):
if you look at this lunatic running in Maine with
his Nazi tattoo, and you know, a New Green Deal, radical,
cradle to gray, womb to the tomb, socialist is I
never thought Karen Bass and Los Angeles, the mayor out
there is incompetent as she could be whatever be challenged
from the left. You have this new Seattle mayor who
(00:40):
up until defeating the incumbent democrat, another Mom Donnie radical socialist,
slash communist, whatever you want to call them, and then
Mam Donnie in New York. This is now and they're
saying it, this is now the new model for the
Democratic Party. Bernie Sanders said it. He wants to spread
a nationwide Now. I urge everybody and the Green New
(01:02):
Deal in AOC, who's the real leader in the House
of Representatives will defeat Chucky Schumer. If she challenges him.
But I want you to think of these things, those
of you that look towards the government to be the
answer to all of the problems in your life. Ask
yourself and your town, in your city, and your state.
(01:24):
How are your government schools doing now? In my free
state of Florida, they're actually doing very well. And yet
it is some of the lowest taxes in the entire country.
But if you look at blue cities, blue states, it
is atrocious. We spend nationally, per capita, more on education
for our children than any other country in the industrialized world,
(01:45):
and we have the worst results. How's that Obamacare thing
working out for you? Keep your doctor, keep your plan.
Average family saves twenty five hundred dollars per family per year.
Millions lost doctors, millions lost plans. For over forty percent
of the country, they have one Obamacare exchange option. If
they're lucky, they have two, but neither one is any good.
(02:06):
And you're paying a whopping two hundred and twenty five
to three hundred plus percent more for Obamacare and it's
not working for people. You know? How is that defundismantled
no bail law? Reimagine the police working out in your
blue city or your blue town or your blue state,
not very well in most cases, which is why Donald
(02:26):
Trump is sending you know, troops to places like Memphis
and d C. And Chicago, et cetera to restore law
and order. Now North Carolina, so a lot of people
put their faith, their hope, their trust, their belief in
government and putting aside the Department of War. I don't
know that much that the government has a great track
(02:47):
record of doing particularly well. Remember they told all of
us that they would put your money that you have
paid in all of your working life into a Social
Security lock box. Well, those guys in Washington, with the
decades have rated the lock box and it's headed towards insolvency,
just like you know, Medicaid, Medicare and states, they're all
(03:08):
headed towards insolvency because they've been mismanaged. And this is
the lunacy and the false promise of socialism. I wrote
a whole chapter live Free or Die Socialism. It's history
of failure. You know. Now we're learning a lot about
the Pacific Palisades. It's you know, over ten months later,
nearly a year later, and where are we when we've
(03:29):
learned new revelations thanks to the La Times and a
series of articles that they've written, that days before the
major fire, there had been a smaller fire. Firefighters alerted
their battalion chief that there was still smoldering areas that
needed to be monitored, and lo and behold, they were
(03:50):
taken off the job rather than monitoring it, and before
this reignited into the massive fire days later, thousands of
homes destroyed, twelve people killed. And then we learned something else.
We learned of incredible failure on the state local level
in terms of they, for example, we had reservoirs specifically
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designed for fires that are predictable. In this area, wild
fires are very predictable. They don't practice the science of
forestry in California because of environmental concerns. In other words,
they don't clear the kindling in the brush that is
around you know, these homes, and that just adds fuel
to the fire. Literally, we have the science of forestry,
(04:36):
we have, you know, for example, they put in you know,
we had fire hydrants that had no water, we had
reservoirs that were empty, and all of this happened. And
now we're being told, oh, yeah, they pulled out the
firefighters before the previous fire was completely extinguished, which makes
(04:57):
absolutely no sense at all. You might call at the time,
Gavin Newsom. At least he was in the state. I
give him credit for that. Who's confronted by a woman
who's now working for Steve Hilton and trying to get
him elected governor as a Republican which is a near
impossibility of my view in the state of California. Remember,
she desperately goes up to the governor and this is
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what the governor said, that was my daughter's school.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Governor, please tell me what you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm can hurt of my promise.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm literally talking to the president right now to specifically
answer the question of what we can do for you
and your daughter?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Can I hear it?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Can I hear your call?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Because I don't believe it?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I'm sorry, can I There's literally I've tried five times.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
That's why I'm walking around, Jamake, I'm a president not
taking your call because it's not going through. Why I
have to get self service. Oh, I'm talking to the
president literally right now, and can I hear? Well? I'm
trying to get the president interesting answer, and of course
Karen bass Well, she wasn't even in town. She was
(06:00):
at the swearing in of the new president of Ghana,
an event I'm sure that obviously requires the attendance of
the mayor of Los Angeles. But here's what she is
being peppered with questions upon her return, and she is very,
very detailed, very articulate answers.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent while
their homes were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire
department budget by millions of dollars?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Madam Mayor?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Have you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing
to say to the citizens today? Elon Musk says that
you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor?
Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today?
Her dealing with this disaster? No apology for them? Do
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you think you should have been visiting Ghana while this
was unfolding? Back homes.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Thing, not a peep joining us. John conn Breitbart Editor,
by the way, the artist behind the hit song Fighter
that brought America's resilience to life. Following the attempted assassination
of President Trump, he lost his house in the Pacific
Palisades fire, and by the way, I had a guest
on last night and said, not one home has been rebuilt.
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Not one. Also with us, Senator Rick Scott of Florida,
listen to the victims and witnesses of the Pacific Palisades
fire who are being suppressed and shunned by the entire state.
Welcome both of you. John Let me first offer my
deepest condolences. I'm so sorry. The mayor, the governor all
said they'd expedite these permits. My understanding is nobody can
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get a permit. What's happening out there.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
It's very difficult right now, Sean, thanks for having me back.
I just want to thank Senator Scott and Senator Johnson
for leading this crusade to get to the bottom of this.
It's stunning to me that two Republican senators who are
not even from the state are the ones the charge
to get to the bottom of what happened to what
is essentially a Democrat thronghold of the Palasage with all
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the Hollywood folks. But from what I understand, it's insane
to get a permit. People are wrestling with insurance. I
was back in LA a couple of months ago and
my neighborhood has completely leveled still, and there almost seems like,
you know, it's this ram Emmanuel quote about never let
a good crisis go to waste. It almost feels like
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between the insurance companies and the local government and state
government that they're trying to break the collective will of
the Palisadians, and sadly from the folks I've talked to
you that are there right now. I'm currently in Nashville.
It seems to be working because people are throwing up
their hands saying, I don't want to start my life
again in two or four years. I want to start now.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Well, I mean, I don't know what they're supposed to
do now. I'm very fortunate that I live in the
Free State of Florida. Senator Rick Scott was governor of
the state, and he was phenomenal in the midst of
many crises, including natural des including how many hurricanes did
you have when you were a governor of the state
of Florida, Don, I had.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Four major hurricanes. One arm was bigger than the state
of Florida. I went out John. First off, I just
will tell you my heart goes out to you listening
your home. I watched this after hurricanes and and the
fact that you know the local and state government doesn't
do anything to help you is just you just get
the whole community restarted. I went out there and met
(09:25):
with Spencer Pridde in August, and I just was shocked.
I mean, street after street, there's just nothing. I mean
it just burnt down home, street after street after street,
and there's like there's nothing happening. There's there's there's almost
no construction. And so you know, we're gonna look. My
my goal is to get to the bottom of this.
(09:45):
Number One, it's unfair to these families. Number Two, the
federal government has spent a fortune on wild wildfire suppression.
This should never ever have happened. Ever and then there
and then as we know that there was a fire,
they they left before it was put out. I'm not
a firefighter, but I've been around when they put out.
(10:05):
We have you know, the Everglade catches on fire a
little bit, you know, every year or two. And we
spent a lot of time there putting water and water
and water and turning over the dirt, and they said
it was smoldering. Then they left and then not fill
up the reservoirs. Spencer craze. There's a there's a reservoir
three doors for his house. He always thought it was
full of watering and there hadn't been any water in forever,
(10:26):
he said. And then the other reservoir they it was empty,
the big reservoir for the palace. So the firefighters that did,
they came, I mean, there was no water for him.
And then you heard from these residents there was no plan.
There's no evacuation plans, there's no evacuation routes. And then
you can't get a permit to rebuild. I mean, this
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is so unfair. And then the state insurance plan, right,
it doesn't cover your costs, Spencer says. Spencer says, you know,
the money he got will barely pay for pilings for
his house. And then they change the rules for what
you have to build now so much more expensive, and
his property taxes are going to go up. And of
course if you can get property insurance, you know, which
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is very difficult because of you have a new simbel
what he's done to the states, and church companies don't
want to do business there. He's feel so sorry for
the people. So we had great we had six you know,
victims out there, including Spencer, and then some people from
the audience typed up and brought the issues they had.
So you just your heart goes out to what's going
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on out there. Just it's just empty shot. It's just
you're just shocked. It's just nothing built. It's just a
burnt down areaful a centater.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I've known you forever, We've been friends forever. When you
were governor, We've became very good friends because you were
always visiting New York with Bobby Jendle and Governor Rick Perry,
and you were all up in New York and you
were you were courting businesses to move to your respective states,
and you were very successful at it, let's be honest.
And it cracked me up because every time you guys
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were in New York, I put you in studio and
we became good friends. And I'm honored to have you
as my senator. And if this happened and you were
the governor, where would we be right now? First of all,
these are predictable wildfires, predictable Santa Ana wins. I know
because I lived there in the eighties. I know all
about southern California well, and you.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Know Sean, they did. It's like we do prescribe burns
on our state property. So what you do is you
get rid of the brush because if you know it's
the rushing to get there and it gets right, it's
going to catch on fire. Shocking, Right, in California, they
have all this brush that they don't get rid of
the brush. You have you have to do that.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That's called forestry. You can get a degree and then
from so many schools around the country.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, and they just let them. And it's around these
beautiful areas like the Palisades and Malibu and this stuff,
and so they just they it's a tinderbox. And then
they're they're shocked. And then they were saying that because
put so much money because she I guess she wants
more homeless people in California. So you have homeless people
out there, and they'll they'll start a right because they're
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trying to stay warm when it gets when it goes down.
So sometimes that's what starts to this stuff. So but
it's like it's no one cares. It's like fast and newsome.
You know, whatever the system is, they don't care if
they don't show up. The other thing, Sean when I
had a hurricane, I showed up. I got six million
people to evacuate before.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Not only I know for a fact, not only did
you show up, you didn't sleep, you worked around the clock.
You didn't leave. You didn't leave people hanging. People were
taking care of you know, before, during, and after, and
the follow through was complete. You'd never gave in.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
No, these are people right, You're like, my goal was
nobody die, nobody die, keep them alive. We can rebuild everything.
You're gonna have a hurricane. I can't stop the hurricane.
And then what we did. Then, what we did is
we help people rebuild as quickly quickly as you can.
I mean, this is this is what John ten months
since the house is burned down, and so it's almost
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like nothing like him ten months nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Let me ask John, John, how many homes have been rebuilt?
And do you also have to pay your normal property
taxes on these properties?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Well, they gave us a little break on the property taxes.
Thought with how much you pay normally, it's not a
break for the land you can't do anything with. And
what's worse is you have to hold onto your insurance policy.
So now I'm paying for a year of insurance a
couple thousand dollars or so for in case somebody stumbles
onto my dirt and falls reliability.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Let me come back to both of you, because this
is too important. I don't want to rush through it.
If you both can stay just like five more minutes,
I promise we'll get right back to you. Eight hundred
and nine four one. Sean will continue with John conn
and my Senator Rick Scott of Florida. I mean, it's
taken Rick Scott in Florida to help the people in
the Pacific Palisades. Pretty spectacular. We'll continue. Ya listens to
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Sean Hennedy and he's on on on right now, all right,
we continue. I mean, it's unremarkable to me. We are
ten months out. You know, the before we had empty
hydrants and empty reservoirs out in California. There's no the
science of forestry was not practiced in the state of California. Rather,
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and in California, you know, all these homes burned down,
twelve people dead, and people have to still pay an
enormous amount of money for insurance and property taxes even
uh and they cannot get a permit to rebuild their home.
And their life. It is a spectacular failure. I applaud
my Senator Rick Scott were going out there and trying
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to help the people of California because the government out
there is that incompetent. But John con Breitbart editor, lost
his house. I was asking you before the break about
you know, you have to maintain insurance on the property
even though there's no house there, and you have to
do you have to pay some property taxes also, I
wasn't quite clear on that.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, you do. I mean they waived some of it.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But it's still what do you mean waves some of it?
I mean, how much do you have to spend a
year for your burnt down house?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Well, it's it's about I think I own like another
ten grand in a couple months.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And I'm sorry, how much do you spend a year?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Well, that's that's what I owe in a couple of months.
I think it's about ten thousand dollars for property tax
and that's.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
With a break.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
They're charging you ten thousand dollars in property taxes, but
they won't give you a permit to rebuild your home.
You've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
In the thing and how much do you pay annually
for the insurance for a home that doesn't exist on
that property?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Well, that's that's about I think it was about fifteen hundred.
That's just in case somebody stumbles onto your dirt and tricks.
That's for liability.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So eleven five hundred dollars a year year. And now
on top of not having your home, not getting a permit,
having to find in another place to live. Now you
moved to Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Correct, I'm in Nashville now, yes, are you going back?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Are you going to sell your lot and probably lose
a fortune on that end of this deal?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You know?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
I don't know yet, Sean. I mean the problem is
the insurance is a big problem as well, because it's
like whack them all with like for State Farm, it's
whack them all with their adjusters. You start dealing with
one and then they switch to another one. I think
I've been through five, and every time you have a
new one, you have to start over and they have
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to get familiar with your case. I don't have my money.
My house is to rebuild. My house would be well
worth well over the cap that they owe me. But
they're delaying and delaying and delaying, so until you know
what money you are going to get, you don't even
know if you can rebuild, so you can't even apply
for a permit.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Let me go back to Senator Rick Scott, Senator, honestly,
you do such a great job for us here in Florida.
I really do applaud you for trying to help people
out because this is this is an unmitigated disaster. And
you know all about this because there's there are wildfires.
But we've practiced forestry here in Florida, so you mitigate
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the damage. And you're all over natural disasters as governor,
and the same with Governor DeSantis. You guys are all
over disasters. We're the best at it, uh to be honest,
and we get we get a lot of natural disasters
out here, Sean.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
The other issue that John's deal with them people have
Palin States is you have to apply for a permit,
and it's not cheap. It's not like five bucks. What
I was told there was tens of thousands of dollars
to apply for a permit and they've barely given they've siding,
you know, John, what I was told is they just
in permit fee. So far, they've raised thirty million dollars
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and just like a couple hundred people have gotten permits.
When I was out there last week with siner Ron
Johnson doing this investigation hearing, there was almost no houses
being built. And when I talk to people, they said, well,
if they are building the house, they got that permit
before before things were burnt down. So I don't know
if that's what you're hearing, but it's also thousands of dollars.
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And then that they've changed the rules on what you
have to build, so it costs way more money to build,
all right. And then they've ruined the insurance market, so
the insurance never covers all the costs. So it's it's
like it's like it's everybody that it's like the whole
government's against the Palistates.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And then there are people Senator, and I know you
have to run in a minute. That's why I'm going
to ask you one last question. And then there are
people now pushing and you see this all over the
country cradle to grave, womb to the tomb zoron Marxist
Kami Mumdani politics. We see it in Seattle, we see
it in Maine, even La Mayor bass is being challenged
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from the left. I mean, if she's if she's not
left enough, I don't know. I mean, this is insanity
to me. Nobody should die. If I was in call point,
get out leave now. Well, a lot of people already have.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Well you know when I when I became governor back
in twenty January twenty eleventh, you know, very few people
from California were moving. Actually nope, we had lost more
people in twenty ten because the economy is so bad
in Florida. So we add at one point seven million
jobs down as governor. But I recruited people like you said,
New York. It was easier in New York and New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You were, you were, It was hilarious. I saw you
up there all the time. We became best friends.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
But I went to out to California. We ran ads
for Perry and I ran ads out there. But now
there's so many people leaving California and thinking about California
is beautiful, but it's it's you know, unless you're wealthy,
you can't afford to live out there, or you have
to be really poor where they give you everything for free.
So think about this. The taxes are so high. But
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their schools are not as good as Florida. The universities
are not as good as Florida. The law enforcement, right,
you know, they don't like their law enforcement. They want
to defund the police. So Bath hates you know, you
know she you know she's cut the you for the
fire department. You realized that before the fire.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That was a brilliant move to Senator. I'm going to
keep my word and let you go at your schedule time.
Thank you for being with us. We appreciate you taking
the time, and I'm grateful that you are my senator
here in the Free State of Florida. Thank you, John.
I'll give you the last word, and I want to
just echo what I said earlier and what the Senator said.
(21:24):
I feel so sorry for you and your family. I
really do. My heart goes out to you. This is
exactly what I try to warm my audience about. Do
not put your faith, your hope, your trust, your belief
in government to be to get anything right, especially out there.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yeah. I appreciate that, Sean. I mean one thing with
Senator Scott said that really moves me in the wake
of something like this. He said, where are they? Where's
Gavin Newsom, Where's where? Where are our leaders?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
He's in Texas grand standing so he can make his
run for president, that's where he.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Was, Or in Brazil or on x with some you
know adolescent Twitter stream while people are trying to figure
out how to rebuild their lives.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Is Adam Schiff out there doing what Rick Scott and
Ron John are doing?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
No, and neither is Padilla. And we haven't heard hide
nor hair from those guys.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And like, wait a minute, they're Democrats, right, Aren't they
supposed to be compassionate? Aren't they the ones that preach
that they care the most, that they have a monopoly
of compassion for people.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
It really is, you.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Know, it's so fascinating about watching Gavin Newsom is there's
this distance to him. It's almost, you know, I hate
to say it's sociopathic. How he can you know, claim
to be ready to lead the country when he's left
his own citizens out to try He's not there where
How many times have you been to the pala Fates.
He's in Brazil getting climate change recognition and.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
It's really I'm a change And he doesn't practice simple
you know, forestry science, and he doesn't have reservoirs. You
know what his answer was on reservoirs and being empty
and fire hydrants being emptied. Oh, you're going to have
to ask local officials about that. That's not I'm not
in charge of that. Where does the buck stop out
in California? I would think with the governor.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah, a million gallons in that reservoir that weren't and
it was empty. A million gallons they could have had
of water.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Well, I wonder how many homes could have been saved
if they practiced the science of forestry, because you have
predictable wildfires. They have a wildfire season and predictable Santa
Ana wins that you know you have those every year too.
Correct me if I'm wrong. So they should have been prepared,
shouldn't they have?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I think so? I think so? And I heard something
this morning. I don't know if it's confirmed yet, but
now the state is claiming immunity for many wrongdoing responsibilities
because supposedly they were unaware of that smoldering fire just
after on January first, and yet it just came out.
I read that they sent a state park representative to
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check it out that early that morning. So they're getting caught.
I think there are these after fire reports and some
of these reports that's coming out are really going to
chefs in mine on all the negligives from both the
state and local.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
John. I just mean this from the bottom of my
heart for you and all the victims and the families
that lost loved ones as well. In this. My heart
goes out to you, man, it really does. This is
an unmitigated financial disaster for most people that live there,
and I'm so sorry. You have my deepest sympathies that
you have to live through this hell as hell.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Well, thank you, Sean. You've always been really good to me,
so I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Hang in there, buddy, God bless you. Let's get to
our busy phones. We'll start in Miami, in the Free
State of Florida. Charles on the Sean Hannity Show. What's up,
Big Charles?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
How are you, sir Ah, I'm doing pretty good. Hey, Sean,
you're having problems with your blankets. Maybe you ought to
have them screenprints your name on them.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
No, it's not a matter of that. I have a
problem that my name is on them. I have two
wonderful children that are the you know, the greatest gift
God ever gave me and my children come visit their dad.
They're very close to their dad and I'm honored that
they are and houses. So what they do is they say, Dad,
can I have this? Well, what am I supposed to say?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It makes it tough.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Wait, I made It's not just tough, it's it's impossible
for me to say no. I can't say no to
my children on stuff like that. Now, if they ask
me for something ridiculous, the answer is hell no. But
you know they want a bubble cuddle blanket because they
like it that much. It's theirs anyway, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Well, I lived in South America. I lived in Venezuela
actually in the nineties into two thousand and I got
out two thousand and five because it was a slow
motion train, right. You watched them vote this guy in,
and you're telling everybody, don't vote for him, don't vote
for him again, don't do this, don't do that. And
they kept doing it. And my neighbor's property got confiscated
(26:06):
by the government. He was an Englishman, had a cattle ranch,
and I tried to get him to confiscate mine because
the World Court paid him out of Petroleu State Venezuela.
I think he got two point three million dollars for
property worth three hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Right. Well, I mean, I'm just going to tell you
we've seen you look at Venezuela, Latin America one of
the richest countries and incomes Hugo Chavez, and now it's
one of the poorest countries and it continues under Maduro.
It's sad. I mean, I can't tell you how many
people I know the fled Castro's Cuba, and I've met
(26:46):
with them, I've sat with them, They've told me their
stories and the same thing there. I mean, Cuba should
be I mean, it should be one of the richest
islands around. It's so close in proximity to the US.
But you know, a lot of smart people in Cuba
said I'm out of here, and they came to America
(27:09):
and having come from oppression and tyranny and even you know,
threats against their lives and confiscation and property and all
that they've experienced. You know, I find that the people
that live under those systems that come here often appreciate
the gift of liberty and freedom and the American dream
(27:31):
more than Americans, do we take for granted that which
was given us as our birthright, we take it for granted.
The people that lived under different systems that come here,
they seem to appreciate it more, which is often the case.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Well, you also run into the ones that have been
so indoctrinated, some of the Cubans that are here having
so indoctrinated that they always want to tell on their
neighbors about doing this or doing that, because that's what
they do to survive in Cuba.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Is I get it? That's all very real, one hundred
percent real. Uh, my friend, I have to run. We'll
take a break, we'll come back. We'll have more of
your calls on the other side. Eight hundred and nine
four one sean our number if you want to be
a part of the program. We got a great, great
Hannitay tonight nine eastern on the Fox News Channel. As
we continue
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