May 5, 2025 • 32 mins
David Schoen, former counsel for President Trump and Civil Liberties Attorney and Gregg Jarrett, Fox News Legal Analyst and Best Selling Author discuss the rabid antisemitism here and the attacks in Israel over the weekend. They also touch on another MSM letdown where President Trump was taken out of context on the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our two Sean Hannity show toll free. It is eight
hundred and nine to four one Sean. If you want
to be a part of the program. I'm not really
sure why, although it's interesting as hell sometimes to watch
President Trump with a state run legacy media mob. In
these interviews, we played the Terry Moran interview. What a
beatdown that was. We should pull that back up and
remind people, but maybe we will. But I want to
(00:21):
go to this past weekend Meet the Press Kristen Welkert,
and it kind of surprises me anybody does any of
these Sunday shows because nobody really watches. But the way
this was reported in the press is he doesn't. Donald
Trump doesn't. It doesn't says he doesn't know if he
needs to uphold the constitution.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Listen to the exchange.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Your Secretary of State says, everyone who's here, citizens and
non citizens, deserved to process. Do you agree, mister, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I'm not a lawyer.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Well, the Fifth Amendment, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
It seems it might say that, But if you're talking
about that, then we'd have to have a midian or
two million or three million trials. We have thousands of
people that are some murderers and some drug dealers and
some of the worst people on earth. But it is
some of the worst, most dangerous people on earth. And
I was elected to get them the hell out of here,
and the courts are holding me from doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
But even given those numbers that you're talking about, don't
you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States
as present?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant
lawyers that work for me, and they are going to
obviously follow what the Supreme Court said. What you said
is not what I heard. The Supreme Court said they
have a different interpretation.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's exactly right. And if we're talking about the.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Enemy Aliens Act or the Alien Enemies Act, it's very simple.
We have four prior presidents invoke this Act and it
was upheld constitutionally, and the court even went as far
as to say that once a president makes that decision
under his executive to already as commander in chief, that
that is not even subject to judicial review. So the
(02:07):
whole premise of the question is ridiculous, because the president's
upholding the Constitution as a firm by the US Supreme Court. Anyway,
here do we in on this a more. David Shown,
former council for President Trump. Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal
analysts and best selling author, Welcome both of you.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Greg, start with you.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I think the question in the context in which it
was given, and then the headlines that ensued do not
capture the president's answer.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Nelly don't, and I don't think Kristin Welker understands due
process and Trump is right about deportations and due process
because deportations are not a criminal process under the meaning
of the Bill of Rights in the Fifth Amendment, which
guarantees due process. Because removal of people who are here
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illegally is different than an individual who is charged or
convicted of crimes, they get due process. And the Supreme
Court recently ruled that under the Alien Enemies Act, people
are entitled to notice and a right to challenge removal.
That's different than due process. It's a kind of due process,
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but it's dramatically different. And when you are talking about
a deportation and the right of notice, that is done
typically on an expedited basis, before an immigration judge who
is not a part of the judicial branch. Their employees
of the Department of Justice. So it's not the same
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as the standard due process that people are entitled to
in a regular court of law when charged with a crime.
Kristin Welker doesn't know that. She doesn't know what she
doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And the one, by the way, isn't the very act
of entering the country tree illegally.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Render somebody?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I mean, when do we bestow upon illegal immigrants the
rights of American citizens.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
Well, if they're charged with a crime while here on
American soil, they get due process the deportation expelling people
here illegally, they're not charged with a crime, they're simply
being evicted, and they get the chance to be notified,
and they go for a before an immigration judge who says, yes,
(04:30):
the documents here, you're here illegally, what do you have
say for yourself, and then boom, you're gone. So that's
not standard due process and Welker doesn't know it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, yeah, there might be boom, you're gone, except you
have activist judges and that might say, oh, hold on
a second, you can come back in one hundred days
from now, and we'll re examine this issue. And the
odds of that person ever coming back next to.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Zero, right, So you know, I think what's important is
that the Supreme Court needs to better identify and clarify
what it is they mean by all of this. And
you know that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But didn't they do that in the Alien Enemies Act?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Didn't It wasn't that the whole purpose of the forty
eighth Supreme Court decision. You're the first one that pointed
it out to me.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
Greg, that's right.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
And you know here you have a judge four days ago,
Texas judge who ruled that Trump cannot use the Alien
Enemies Act to expel violent members of a designated terrorist organization.
The judge said, well, yes, they're an arm of the
ven is winning government. But I hereby proclaim that this
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is not a predatory incursion under the meaning of the Act.
The judge can't possibly know that he's incompetent because he
has no access to the relevant intel or government information
that the president does, which is why Sean the Supreme
Court in nineteen forty eight said, whenever the president uses
the Act, it is not reviewable by any judge. But
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this Texas judge, as many others, are simply ignoring the
nation's highest court. And I think Supreme Court needs to
be far more clear and deliberate about this subject.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Let's get your take, David Shoan.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
First of all, I think the clip that you played
is vitally important. You're right the headlines have been saying
President says he doesn't have to doesn't know if you
have to a beta constitution in no way, shape or form.
Is that what President Trump said completely? Taking that of context,
Your clip gives it the context. He was saying that
he's not sure because he's not a lawyer about the
degree of due process due to illegal aliens period, not
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that he doesn't have to abta Constitution. He's said over
and over again.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And I can add one thing, and he went a
little further. What are we going to have millions and
millions of trials in this country? What fourteen million illegals
are going to go before a judge a trial? And
who's going to pay for that? And we don't have
the capacity to put that many people on trial or
give them quote the due process when we know they're
here illegally. Now, I do need to add one thing,
(07:11):
and then I promise I won't to interrupt. And that
is the news of the day, which is the administration
is now offering one thousand dollars to every bidy illegal
and a free plane ride who self deport, which that
was an idea I had floated a long time ago
on this program.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Yes, it's really unbelievable, the classic Trump movies offering an incentive.
Some of these folks were starting to self deport anyway
because they were afraid something would be caught about them
and so on. But you know, I think putting all
this in context, all of this debate about the Alien
Enemies Act is interesting because and I think they used
it the idea of someone in administration to avoid judicial
scrutiny and move through the system because it should be
(07:51):
a political question, non justiciable. But remember, we do have
statutes on the book that make people like Mackmud Khalil
and others who have supported and advocated and endorsed terrorism
and foreign terrorist organizations fully deportable. There's a statue right
on a Tom Cotton actually pinpoint of this huck months ago.
But you know, under eight USC. Eleven eighty two, you're
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denied entry if you encourage your member of support, endorse,
encourage others to support a foreign terrorist organizations. And under eleven,
twenty seven. You are deportable if you violated that section.
These folks put out materials supporting Camas, encouraging others to
do it, completely tearing down the Western way of life,
that we are Westerners fighting for the total eradication of
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Western civilization, all of those kinds of things, document stamp
by comas with approval and all that they're fully deportable.
There's not a question. So people championing these causes and saying, well,
it's the First Amendment issue. I've advocated for First Amendment
rights my entire career. This is not a First Amendment issue.
United States Supreme Court sent at twenty ten in holder
providing material support to actions and words for terrorist organizations
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is not detected First Amendment conduct. So we're getting disinformation
from Democrats in this and from the media quite frankly.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Well, the other thing, Greg that's happening is Democrats have
come to realize they lost this battle in terms of
public opinion with the Brego Garcia, and the.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Message has gone out.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
No more visits to Al Salvador, show, visits, performative art.
Maybe I just have to take David Hoggs' you know,
words and use it against the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
They just right now they're sucking yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
And in fact, I was amused today when I read
that the Los Angeles County Sheriff Villa de Waeva has
decided to forsake the Democratic Party and leave and join
the Republican Party because he said of Democrats, you know, no,
I'm not in favor of hate and division and purple
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hair and pronouns. I'm going to join the Republican Party
that cares about family values and law and order. And so,
you know, Democrats have painted themselves into a corner and
they don't know how to get out, and they now
have the image of caring more about terrorists and thugs
(10:15):
and murderers and keeping them here in the United States
instead of protecting the innocent victims of a crime who've
been terrorized by individuals. And you know, that's what the
Democratic Party stands for, and it's a losing proposition of
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the ballot box.
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continue now with Craig Jarrett and David Shoon. David Shoon, Uh,
what about people like Khalil and he you know, another guy,
a foreign student and the we saw what happened on
Columbia's campus, for example, but other campuses around the country
and virulent anti Semitism and and and yet that again
(12:52):
the Democrats are championing that quo prohomas wing at college
on college campuses, and champion in u using taxpayer dollars
to pay for elite institutions. I mean, why is Harvard
getting six hundred and fifty million dollars for fiscal year
twenty twenty four when they have a fifty three billion
dollar endowment and on one of these campuses, Colombia in particular.
(13:14):
You know, students were being asked if they were a
Zionists before they could pass certain areas where these encampments were.
That's been widely reported. And then we're told by administrators
that they should consider at home learning and not going
to campus. That all went down as well after October seventh.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, it's shocking. I mean, it's very frightening for many
Jewish students on campus today. But the hypocrisy behind this
also is just shocking. Again. The Trump administration, the first
administration in my memory at least that's really taking a
stand against this stuff, actively fought against antisemitism on campus.
And so we've seen now criticism from the Democratic side,
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these hypocrites who said and did nothing talked to that
free speech when Jewish students were being marshaled, all off
of campus, not allowed to go to class, buildings were
being taken over and so on. Now they're attacking the
Trump administration for going after that. You have Chuck Schumer
saying that Trump is weaponizing anti Semitism. How dare he?
And then he tries to cloak himself in promoter of
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credibility because he's Jewish, those Jewish voices for Palestine. They
want nothing to do with Jews or Israel. The hypocrisy
is just shocking. His administration is finally standing up to it. Also,
we're filing I filed a number of lawsuits under the
offices of the group called the National Jewish Advocacy Center
challenging the conduct by these groups on campus. We see
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all of these things going on. This guy Khalil is
deportable period. He will be deported, and so are many
others like him. And he saw the guy last week
released from jail while he's being deported in New England,
and he holds a press conference. He's not afraid of anyone,
and he wants to act like a hero. Nothing but
a supporter of terrorism.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I mean, I'll say it maybe at the bottom of
this half hour, but I don't know if he saw
David at Portnoy. But Barstools apparently has locations around the
country and somebody wrote something virulently anti Semitic, and David
Portnoy rightly, you know, went to social media. He was
apoplectic and livid. Greg Jarrett. But there is this part
(15:17):
of the Democratic Party that if they're they're not virulently
openly anti Semitic.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They're silent in the face of it.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
They are, and that's why I commend David for bringing
this lawsuit under the Anti Terrorism Act against these defendant
groups in New York City and particularly on the campus
of Columbia who are aiding and abetting Hamas's continuing acts
of terrorism. They're providing substantial, valuable assistance to Hamas. And
(15:48):
as David argues, you know, Hamas relies on these propagandists
in the US to do its bidding, spreading faults to it,
instigating a culture of violence, fear, and you know, as
David describes it, it's Hamas's grand strategy developing these campus
foot soldiers at Columbia University in New York. They can
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and should be held liable under international law as accessories.
Their practical assistance helps carry out acts of deadly terrorism.
And hats off to David for using the law against them.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
All the very charter of a MOSS calls for the
destruction of Israel anyway. Appreciate you both, David, Choan, thank you,
Greg Jared, Thank you.
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Let's say hi to William Is in Utah. William High,
how are you glad you called?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yes, thanks for taking my call, Sean, I I've spoken before.
I appreciate twenty five years of listening to you.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, but I just want to say about Congress in
the Senate. You'll excuse my speech. I I'm trying. I've
had a stroke, so I'm recovering.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oh, Wow, for somebody that's had a stroke. I've no
people that have had strokes. They never talk again. Thank God,
you're recovering. I bless you.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, half to six months. But anyway, Congress in the Senate,
I'm trying to get you know, your opinion there. I'm
trying to get get in the theme of the place
has been get to work, you know, get abaded back
to the office. And I'm John's trying to see where
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Congress and the Senator are doing the same and leading
by example.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Well, let me let me update you because I interviewed
last week both John Thune and Mike Johnson, and so
I know where we are with the Reconciliation bill. This
this is the only avenue we have and in terms
of what we can and do now now, certainly the
President by even threatening tariffs, that's going to result in
(20:07):
we have over eight trillion in committed monies to build
manufacturing out and bring manufacturing and high paying career jobs
back to America.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
The President's tax cuts as part of this reconciliation package,
they will be made permanent. They'll be also including no
tax on tips, social security, or overtime. That will also
help the economy. They will be funding defense but also
adding more money to defense, cutting They're cutting discretionary spending
by about twenty twenty five percent, which we have to do.
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They're eliminating waste, fraud and abuse, which we have to do,
and get rid of corruption. You factor in the president's
energy dominance policies that will help make us wealthy again.
And so the scheduled time frame to get this bill
written and without getting too deep in the weeds, and
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get through the arcane and very arduous process known as reconciliation,
where you don't need a cloture vote in the Senate,
which is sixty votes, but you can pass with a
simple majority. There are very specific items that you have
to check off, and it has to be approved by
the Senate parliamentarian and the House then has to go
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along with it. So it's complicated, but you know what
they're getting there. It's their full time job. It's not
going to be perfect. But the only other alternative is
to live under Joe Biden's budget until October one, when
of the next fiscal year starts, and that's not acceptable
to me. Yeah, they're gonna and then they'll have money
for the border. In this bill, they'll they'll have money
(21:43):
set aside for deportations.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I mean, they're doing a lot of good things in
this bill.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Oh yeah, And I appreciate, love what he's doing. But
I'm back to the Senate and I'm talking about the
time frame as a war for July fourth. No, no,
but I'm saying a work week. One Congress and the
Senate together they work three day work weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Sean, Yeah, Now, well that's part of the problem, but
also the markup of these bills. Remember you're dealing with
thousands of pages, and again then you have to navigate
it through this very difficult legal prism and the process
known as reconciliation.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So it's it's complicated.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
However, you know, look, today's date is that May fifth,
when not that far away from the fourth of July,
where it's about two months from now. I hope they
get it done because twenty twenty six, I think is
going to be totally decided based on the state of
the economy. I believe those elections are going to be,
you know, in large part about the economy, and because
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peace and prosperity always always drive elections. Listen, William, you please,
you continue your great recovery. We're glad you checked in.
God bless you and hoping you're feeling better and take
good care of yourself. Okay, Tom in North Carolina? I
hate Tom?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Doing pretty good? I'm a little upset with the Republicans,
but you know that's normal. Ran Paul in particular, I
heard him on your show when you did an interview
with him last week, and this guy's a sucker man.
He's talking about a CEO of one of these car
companies taught him it's going to be five thousand dollars
more car for a car that's built in America, that's
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built in Kentucky. That don't add up. It don't matter.
If you're calculating, you know how to figure out what
the tariffs is, which what he was talking about, which
you could hire a kid to program a computer program
for a couple hundred thousand dollars. He's talking about it.
Lega's the Obamacare website. It's going to cost five hundred
million dollars to figure out how much tariff's to pay
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or if he's talking about the parts, if we're important
to parts at twenty five percent tariff and it's going
to go up five thousand. That means you're using twenty
thousand dollars worth of form that's not an America car.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So the way that this is playing out is all
these foreign car companies now just moving their manufacturing facilities
here and they're getting their parts from here, and because
they don't want to be subject to it now, the
only other option is that we continue to go along
with what the President inherited and what has been a
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consistent US policy for fifty sixty years, which is these
countries unfairly tariff American products and shut out American markets,
and we continue to get ripped off and abused and
taken advantage of.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Is there.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I think it is already in many ways worked out
better than I would have anticipated. I didn't anticipate eight
trillion dollars in commitment and spending for manufacturing and factories
and auto plants in America. I didn't factor that in
when the President was first talking about that.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
But that money came in.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Those commitments came in fast and furious, and you know,
it just again, and nobody ever wants to hear the
word be patient, just be patient, be patient. However, we
really don't have any choice. It's gonna take time, and
we did kind of get to a point of consensus
by the end of the interview. If you've paid close attention,
is he wants to see the President sign these trade deals,
(25:26):
you know, as quickly as possible in the next month
or two. And I believe that's probably a strong likelihood.
And if the President does get that done for example,
you know, I hear we're getting close with Great Britain
and India and Korea and Japan and South and Taiwan
and maybe Italy. You know, once we start, you know,
(25:47):
once you start signing deal after deal after deal, and
then you add the energy component to it, but that
we can sell to our allies. I think you're looking
at foundationally, and then you had the tax cuts to it.
I think we're foundationally sound owned you to move into
a period of great economic growth and hopefully prosperity for
every America.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I want every American to do well.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
The best thing that's happening is with all the deportations
that will be taking place, that's less competition for jobs,
which means job wages growth will go up. The more
money people have, the more money people will paying taxes.
The more money people pay in taxes, but it also
means more money in their pockets. More money in their
pockets means more money that they'll be spending, more homes
that they'll be able to afford, more cars they'll be
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able to buy, and they won't have to worry about
the price of eggs in the local grocery store. So okay,
there's but there, you're basically turning on its head a
system that has been designed to hurt us for sixty
years and saying, well, if you take on that system
that's going to hurt us, We're already being hurt. We've
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just accepted the fact that we're being hurt. And I
think the President's saying it's time not to be hurt anymore,
and that the playing field has to be leveled. And
that's why I support I support the President's decision. But
it can't happen soon enough for anybody. Trust me, been
living under this, this horrible Biden economy for a long time.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Appreciate you, man. Glad you're out there.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Tom. That's a busy telephones Rudy in Illinois. Next Sean
Hennity Show.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
Hi, his don just wanted to mention.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
And by the way, I had no idea that your
governor was such a jackass. Good grief.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
Oh yes, yes, with that seventy two inch waistline, you know,
I mean, who is he trying?
Speaker 7 (27:29):
A kid?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
But many too, I think he's getting better. Then. I'm
glad to hear it.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
Yeah, that's good. I just wanted to say that Tom
Holman has been talking about bringing back retired federal agents
ICE agents who have to mandatorily retired at age fifty seven,
so with twenty years experience, they have to have twenty
years at fifty seven. But he's talking about bringing them
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back to do the processing of the illegal aliens for deportation.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And I love that idea. I love the idea that
they announced today. We have Christy Noman tonight about it.
I mean, we're telling people will pay for your plane
ticket to go home self deport We'll give you a
thousand dollars and you still have will have an opportunity
to enter the country again legally. If you don't self deport,
you'll never have a chance to get back in exactly.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
And you know a lot of people don't realize, especially
the mainstream media, that processing and deportation. Deportation is not
just putting them on a plane. It's a whole set
of legal documents that they have to sign and database
techs and et cetera, et cetera before they're deported. And
they do have the option to appear before an immigration judge. However,
a lot of them don't have a good case, and
(28:41):
the immigration judge is just going to say, where's your evidence?
You know what, what proof do you have that you
have the right to stay here.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
They're being very smart about this because they understand that
even that one case that you're talking about is going
to cost many, many more thousands than the thousand they'll
give them in a plane ticket. It's going to the
amount of money will spend on the healthcare system. I mean,
look at all the billions and hundreds of billions spent
over the years in California on illegal immigrant healthcare and
(29:10):
all the other states. Now we see Texas, We're getting
numbers from Texas that are just astronomical. We're paying for
all of this, and it's education. It's impacting our healthcare system,
our criminal justice system, it's hurting everything everything. Just get
out of here, come into the country legally, now's your
chance to self deport and you'll be able to retain
a right to maybe come back legally one.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Day if you want to.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
Three hundred percent, And that's the way it should be.
And being a son of immigrants, my mom was an immigrant,
my dad was born here. But I understand, and I
grew up in the Chicago area and I've seen it
all my life, the abuses, the fraud, the marriage fraud,
you know, driving without insurance, driving without licenses, staff, all
(29:53):
sorts of stuff. So you know, this is something that
most people in Congress don't realize. They live in their
ivory towers. But for the rest of us, nineteen percent
people live out here. We have to suffer the consequences
of their bad decisions.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Look, it's simple. If you and I were to do this,
we would be held accountable. All right, my friend, thanks
for the call. Eight hundred nine one Shaw is a number.
You want to be a part of the program, My
Free State of Florida. Let's say hi to Eduardo Edwardo.
You're on the Sean Henneredy Show.
Speaker 10 (30:32):
Hi, Hey Sean, it's great to hear from you. First
time calling on this on your show. Here one hundred
and seventy seven thousand jobs is great. We need to
keep on as far as Congress. They need to make
a push on this tax bill and other bills because
otherwise they can overturn these in the future. And Ellie
(30:53):
has like seventeen police helicopters. You can tell the economy
is doing well when they got seventeen helicopters, police electors
over there and come on of heres. I just saw
her on Daily Mail with her husband, Doug. I'm off
having dinner last night in mid tom You know the
economy doing well?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Is that the indication right there?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
There?
Speaker 8 (31:13):
You go?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, well, Dougie, the Dougie there.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Look, I.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Can only tell you that the one thing that we
want to revitalize is the American dream. The one thing
we need to get back to is freedom. The one
thing we need to start thinking anew is the size
and scope and influence of government. I go through my
laundry list of well, what is government doing so well?
How did Obamacare promises work out?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Not well? How did it work out with Social Security
and Medicare? Not well?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
How's your educational system in your small town, your big
city most places, it's not doing very well. How's it
working out with law and order and safety and security
in towns and cities that have adopted, you know, defund
dismantled nobail laws, uh particularly well. So if we want
to get back to constitutional order, we have got to
(32:06):
cut back on this bureaucracy, and we have to alter
our thinking away from somehow this belief system that too
many Americans have that government is going to take care
of your every need from the moment you're born to
the day you die. No, in a free society, don't
count on them. They're not trustworthy. They've proven themselves not trustworthy.
(32:30):
You know what, Take advantage of the freedom and protect
yourself and your family and provide for yourself and your family,
and work your ass off. That's my best advice to everybody.
All Right, when we come back, my interview with Secretary
of State now NSA director Marco Rubio, and so much
going on in the world is going to be a
lot happening this week, and we'll give you a preview
Our two Sean Hannity show toll free. It is eight
hundred and nine to four one Sean. If you want
to be a part of the program. I'm not really
sure why, although it's interesting as hell sometimes to watch
President Trump with a state run legacy media mob. In
these interviews, we played the Terry Moran interview. What a
beatdown that was. We should pull that back up and
remind people, but maybe we will. But I want to
(00:21):
go to this past weekend Meet the Press Kristen Welkert,
and it kind of surprises me anybody does any of
these Sunday shows because nobody really watches. But the way
this was reported in the press is he doesn't. Donald
Trump doesn't. It doesn't says he doesn't know if he
needs to uphold the constitution.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Listen to the exchange.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Your Secretary of State says, everyone who's here, citizens and
non citizens, deserved to process. Do you agree, mister, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I'm not a lawyer.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Well, the Fifth Amendment, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
It seems it might say that, But if you're talking
about that, then we'd have to have a midian or
two million or three million trials. We have thousands of
people that are some murderers and some drug dealers and
some of the worst people on earth. But it is
some of the worst, most dangerous people on earth. And
I was elected to get them the hell out of here,
and the courts are holding me from doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
But even given those numbers that you're talking about, don't
you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States
as present?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant
lawyers that work for me, and they are going to
obviously follow what the Supreme Court said. What you said
is not what I heard. The Supreme Court said they
have a different interpretation.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's exactly right. And if we're talking about the.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Enemy Aliens Act or the Alien Enemies Act, it's very simple.
We have four prior presidents invoke this Act and it
was upheld constitutionally, and the court even went as far
as to say that once a president makes that decision
under his executive to already as commander in chief, that
that is not even subject to judicial review. So the
(02:07):
whole premise of the question is ridiculous, because the president's
upholding the Constitution as a firm by the US Supreme Court. Anyway,
here do we in on this a more. David Shown,
former council for President Trump. Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal
analysts and best selling author, Welcome both of you.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Greg, start with you.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I think the question in the context in which it
was given, and then the headlines that ensued do not
capture the president's answer.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Nelly don't, and I don't think Kristin Welker understands due
process and Trump is right about deportations and due process
because deportations are not a criminal process under the meaning
of the Bill of Rights in the Fifth Amendment, which
guarantees due process. Because removal of people who are here
(02:58):
illegally is different than an individual who is charged or
convicted of crimes, they get due process. And the Supreme
Court recently ruled that under the Alien Enemies Act, people
are entitled to notice and a right to challenge removal.
That's different than due process. It's a kind of due process,
(03:21):
but it's dramatically different. And when you are talking about
a deportation and the right of notice, that is done
typically on an expedited basis, before an immigration judge who
is not a part of the judicial branch. Their employees
of the Department of Justice. So it's not the same
(03:44):
as the standard due process that people are entitled to
in a regular court of law when charged with a crime.
Kristin Welker doesn't know that. She doesn't know what she
doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And the one, by the way, isn't the very act
of entering the country tree illegally.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Render somebody?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I mean, when do we bestow upon illegal immigrants the
rights of American citizens.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
Well, if they're charged with a crime while here on
American soil, they get due process the deportation expelling people
here illegally, they're not charged with a crime, they're simply
being evicted, and they get the chance to be notified,
and they go for a before an immigration judge who says, yes,
(04:30):
the documents here, you're here illegally, what do you have
say for yourself, and then boom, you're gone. So that's
not standard due process and Welker doesn't know it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, yeah, there might be boom, you're gone, except you
have activist judges and that might say, oh, hold on
a second, you can come back in one hundred days
from now, and we'll re examine this issue. And the
odds of that person ever coming back next to.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Zero, right, So you know, I think what's important is
that the Supreme Court needs to better identify and clarify
what it is they mean by all of this. And
you know that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But didn't they do that in the Alien Enemies Act?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Didn't It wasn't that the whole purpose of the forty
eighth Supreme Court decision. You're the first one that pointed
it out to me.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
Greg, that's right.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
And you know here you have a judge four days ago,
Texas judge who ruled that Trump cannot use the Alien
Enemies Act to expel violent members of a designated terrorist organization.
The judge said, well, yes, they're an arm of the
ven is winning government. But I hereby proclaim that this
(05:47):
is not a predatory incursion under the meaning of the Act.
The judge can't possibly know that he's incompetent because he
has no access to the relevant intel or government information
that the president does, which is why Sean the Supreme
Court in nineteen forty eight said, whenever the president uses
the Act, it is not reviewable by any judge. But
(06:11):
this Texas judge, as many others, are simply ignoring the
nation's highest court. And I think Supreme Court needs to
be far more clear and deliberate about this subject.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Let's get your take, David Shoan.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
First of all, I think the clip that you played
is vitally important. You're right the headlines have been saying
President says he doesn't have to doesn't know if you
have to a beta constitution in no way, shape or form.
Is that what President Trump said completely? Taking that of context,
Your clip gives it the context. He was saying that
he's not sure because he's not a lawyer about the
degree of due process due to illegal aliens period, not
(06:46):
that he doesn't have to abta Constitution. He's said over
and over again.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And I can add one thing, and he went a
little further. What are we going to have millions and
millions of trials in this country? What fourteen million illegals
are going to go before a judge a trial? And
who's going to pay for that? And we don't have
the capacity to put that many people on trial or
give them quote the due process when we know they're
here illegally. Now, I do need to add one thing,
(07:11):
and then I promise I won't to interrupt. And that
is the news of the day, which is the administration
is now offering one thousand dollars to every bidy illegal
and a free plane ride who self deport, which that
was an idea I had floated a long time ago
on this program.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Yes, it's really unbelievable, the classic Trump movies offering an incentive.
Some of these folks were starting to self deport anyway
because they were afraid something would be caught about them
and so on. But you know, I think putting all
this in context, all of this debate about the Alien
Enemies Act is interesting because and I think they used
it the idea of someone in administration to avoid judicial
scrutiny and move through the system because it should be
(07:51):
a political question, non justiciable. But remember, we do have
statutes on the book that make people like Mackmud Khalil
and others who have supported and advocated and endorsed terrorism
and foreign terrorist organizations fully deportable. There's a statue right
on a Tom Cotton actually pinpoint of this huck months ago.
But you know, under eight USC. Eleven eighty two, you're
(08:14):
denied entry if you encourage your member of support, endorse,
encourage others to support a foreign terrorist organizations. And under eleven,
twenty seven. You are deportable if you violated that section.
These folks put out materials supporting Camas, encouraging others to
do it, completely tearing down the Western way of life,
that we are Westerners fighting for the total eradication of
(08:35):
Western civilization, all of those kinds of things, document stamp
by comas with approval and all that they're fully deportable.
There's not a question. So people championing these causes and saying, well,
it's the First Amendment issue. I've advocated for First Amendment
rights my entire career. This is not a First Amendment issue.
United States Supreme Court sent at twenty ten in holder
providing material support to actions and words for terrorist organizations
(08:59):
is not detected First Amendment conduct. So we're getting disinformation
from Democrats in this and from the media quite frankly.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Well, the other thing, Greg that's happening is Democrats have
come to realize they lost this battle in terms of
public opinion with the Brego Garcia, and the.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Message has gone out.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
No more visits to Al Salvador, show, visits, performative art.
Maybe I just have to take David Hoggs' you know,
words and use it against the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
They just right now they're sucking yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
And in fact, I was amused today when I read
that the Los Angeles County Sheriff Villa de Waeva has
decided to forsake the Democratic Party and leave and join
the Republican Party because he said of Democrats, you know, no,
I'm not in favor of hate and division and purple
(09:53):
hair and pronouns. I'm going to join the Republican Party
that cares about family values and law and order. And so,
you know, Democrats have painted themselves into a corner and
they don't know how to get out, and they now
have the image of caring more about terrorists and thugs
(10:15):
and murderers and keeping them here in the United States
instead of protecting the innocent victims of a crime who've
been terrorized by individuals. And you know, that's what the
Democratic Party stands for, and it's a losing proposition of
(10:36):
the ballot box.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Quick break right back Morole with David Showan Craig Jared
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continue now with Craig Jarrett and David Shoon. David Shoon, Uh,
what about people like Khalil and he you know, another guy,
a foreign student and the we saw what happened on
Columbia's campus, for example, but other campuses around the country
and virulent anti Semitism and and and yet that again
(12:52):
the Democrats are championing that quo prohomas wing at college
on college campuses, and champion in u using taxpayer dollars
to pay for elite institutions. I mean, why is Harvard
getting six hundred and fifty million dollars for fiscal year
twenty twenty four when they have a fifty three billion
dollar endowment and on one of these campuses, Colombia in particular.
(13:14):
You know, students were being asked if they were a
Zionists before they could pass certain areas where these encampments were.
That's been widely reported. And then we're told by administrators
that they should consider at home learning and not going
to campus. That all went down as well after October seventh.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, it's shocking. I mean, it's very frightening for many
Jewish students on campus today. But the hypocrisy behind this
also is just shocking. Again. The Trump administration, the first
administration in my memory at least that's really taking a
stand against this stuff, actively fought against antisemitism on campus.
And so we've seen now criticism from the Democratic side,
(13:53):
these hypocrites who said and did nothing talked to that
free speech when Jewish students were being marshaled, all off
of campus, not allowed to go to class, buildings were
being taken over and so on. Now they're attacking the
Trump administration for going after that. You have Chuck Schumer
saying that Trump is weaponizing anti Semitism. How dare he?
And then he tries to cloak himself in promoter of
(14:15):
credibility because he's Jewish, those Jewish voices for Palestine. They
want nothing to do with Jews or Israel. The hypocrisy
is just shocking. His administration is finally standing up to it. Also,
we're filing I filed a number of lawsuits under the
offices of the group called the National Jewish Advocacy Center
challenging the conduct by these groups on campus. We see
(14:36):
all of these things going on. This guy Khalil is
deportable period. He will be deported, and so are many
others like him. And he saw the guy last week
released from jail while he's being deported in New England,
and he holds a press conference. He's not afraid of anyone,
and he wants to act like a hero. Nothing but
a supporter of terrorism.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I mean, I'll say it maybe at the bottom of
this half hour, but I don't know if he saw
David at Portnoy. But Barstools apparently has locations around the
country and somebody wrote something virulently anti Semitic, and David
Portnoy rightly, you know, went to social media. He was
apoplectic and livid. Greg Jarrett. But there is this part
(15:17):
of the Democratic Party that if they're they're not virulently
openly anti Semitic.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They're silent in the face of it.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
They are, and that's why I commend David for bringing
this lawsuit under the Anti Terrorism Act against these defendant
groups in New York City and particularly on the campus
of Columbia who are aiding and abetting Hamas's continuing acts
of terrorism. They're providing substantial, valuable assistance to Hamas. And
(15:48):
as David argues, you know, Hamas relies on these propagandists
in the US to do its bidding, spreading faults to it,
instigating a culture of violence, fear, and you know, as
David describes it, it's Hamas's grand strategy developing these campus
foot soldiers at Columbia University in New York. They can
(16:12):
and should be held liable under international law as accessories.
Their practical assistance helps carry out acts of deadly terrorism.
And hats off to David for using the law against them.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
All the very charter of a MOSS calls for the
destruction of Israel anyway. Appreciate you both, David, Choan, thank you,
Greg Jared, Thank you.
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Let's say hi to William Is in Utah. William High,
how are you glad you called?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yes, thanks for taking my call, Sean, I I've spoken before.
I appreciate twenty five years of listening to you.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, but I just want to say about Congress in
the Senate. You'll excuse my speech. I I'm trying. I've
had a stroke, so I'm recovering.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oh, Wow, for somebody that's had a stroke. I've no
people that have had strokes. They never talk again. Thank God,
you're recovering. I bless you.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, half to six months. But anyway, Congress in the Senate,
I'm trying to get you know, your opinion there. I'm
trying to get get in the theme of the place
has been get to work, you know, get abaded back
to the office. And I'm John's trying to see where
(19:42):
Congress and the Senator are doing the same and leading
by example.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Well, let me let me update you because I interviewed
last week both John Thune and Mike Johnson, and so
I know where we are with the Reconciliation bill. This
this is the only avenue we have and in terms
of what we can and do now now, certainly the
President by even threatening tariffs, that's going to result in
(20:07):
we have over eight trillion in committed monies to build
manufacturing out and bring manufacturing and high paying career jobs
back to America.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
The President's tax cuts as part of this reconciliation package,
they will be made permanent. They'll be also including no
tax on tips, social security, or overtime. That will also
help the economy. They will be funding defense but also
adding more money to defense, cutting They're cutting discretionary spending
by about twenty twenty five percent, which we have to do.
(20:39):
They're eliminating waste, fraud and abuse, which we have to do,
and get rid of corruption. You factor in the president's
energy dominance policies that will help make us wealthy again.
And so the scheduled time frame to get this bill
written and without getting too deep in the weeds, and
(20:59):
get through the arcane and very arduous process known as reconciliation,
where you don't need a cloture vote in the Senate,
which is sixty votes, but you can pass with a
simple majority. There are very specific items that you have
to check off, and it has to be approved by
the Senate parliamentarian and the House then has to go
(21:21):
along with it. So it's complicated, but you know what
they're getting there. It's their full time job. It's not
going to be perfect. But the only other alternative is
to live under Joe Biden's budget until October one, when
of the next fiscal year starts, and that's not acceptable
to me. Yeah, they're gonna and then they'll have money
for the border. In this bill, they'll they'll have money
(21:43):
set aside for deportations.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I mean, they're doing a lot of good things in
this bill.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Oh yeah, And I appreciate, love what he's doing. But
I'm back to the Senate and I'm talking about the
time frame as a war for July fourth. No, no,
but I'm saying a work week. One Congress and the
Senate together they work three day work weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Sean, Yeah, Now, well that's part of the problem, but
also the markup of these bills. Remember you're dealing with
thousands of pages, and again then you have to navigate
it through this very difficult legal prism and the process
known as reconciliation.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So it's it's complicated.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
However, you know, look, today's date is that May fifth,
when not that far away from the fourth of July,
where it's about two months from now. I hope they
get it done because twenty twenty six, I think is
going to be totally decided based on the state of
the economy. I believe those elections are going to be,
you know, in large part about the economy, and because
(22:48):
peace and prosperity always always drive elections. Listen, William, you please,
you continue your great recovery. We're glad you checked in.
God bless you and hoping you're feeling better and take
good care of yourself. Okay, Tom in North Carolina? I
hate Tom?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Doing pretty good? I'm a little upset with the Republicans,
but you know that's normal. Ran Paul in particular, I
heard him on your show when you did an interview
with him last week, and this guy's a sucker man.
He's talking about a CEO of one of these car
companies taught him it's going to be five thousand dollars
more car for a car that's built in America, that's
(23:27):
built in Kentucky. That don't add up. It don't matter.
If you're calculating, you know how to figure out what
the tariffs is, which what he was talking about, which
you could hire a kid to program a computer program
for a couple hundred thousand dollars. He's talking about it.
Lega's the Obamacare website. It's going to cost five hundred
million dollars to figure out how much tariff's to pay
(23:49):
or if he's talking about the parts, if we're important
to parts at twenty five percent tariff and it's going
to go up five thousand. That means you're using twenty
thousand dollars worth of form that's not an America car.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So the way that this is playing out is all
these foreign car companies now just moving their manufacturing facilities
here and they're getting their parts from here, and because
they don't want to be subject to it now, the
only other option is that we continue to go along
with what the President inherited and what has been a
(24:25):
consistent US policy for fifty sixty years, which is these
countries unfairly tariff American products and shut out American markets,
and we continue to get ripped off and abused and
taken advantage of.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Is there.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I think it is already in many ways worked out
better than I would have anticipated. I didn't anticipate eight
trillion dollars in commitment and spending for manufacturing and factories
and auto plants in America. I didn't factor that in
when the President was first talking about that.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
But that money came in.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Those commitments came in fast and furious, and you know,
it just again, and nobody ever wants to hear the
word be patient, just be patient, be patient. However, we
really don't have any choice. It's gonna take time, and
we did kind of get to a point of consensus
by the end of the interview. If you've paid close attention,
is he wants to see the President sign these trade deals,
(25:26):
you know, as quickly as possible in the next month
or two. And I believe that's probably a strong likelihood.
And if the President does get that done for example,
you know, I hear we're getting close with Great Britain
and India and Korea and Japan and South and Taiwan
and maybe Italy. You know, once we start, you know,
(25:47):
once you start signing deal after deal after deal, and
then you add the energy component to it, but that
we can sell to our allies. I think you're looking
at foundationally, and then you had the tax cuts to it.
I think we're foundationally sound owned you to move into
a period of great economic growth and hopefully prosperity for
every America.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I want every American to do well.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
The best thing that's happening is with all the deportations
that will be taking place, that's less competition for jobs,
which means job wages growth will go up. The more
money people have, the more money people will paying taxes.
The more money people pay in taxes, but it also
means more money in their pockets. More money in their
pockets means more money that they'll be spending, more homes
that they'll be able to afford, more cars they'll be
(26:28):
able to buy, and they won't have to worry about
the price of eggs in the local grocery store. So okay,
there's but there, you're basically turning on its head a
system that has been designed to hurt us for sixty
years and saying, well, if you take on that system
that's going to hurt us, We're already being hurt. We've
(26:50):
just accepted the fact that we're being hurt. And I
think the President's saying it's time not to be hurt anymore,
and that the playing field has to be leveled. And
that's why I support I support the President's decision. But
it can't happen soon enough for anybody. Trust me, been
living under this, this horrible Biden economy for a long time.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Appreciate you, man. Glad you're out there.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Tom. That's a busy telephones Rudy in Illinois. Next Sean
Hennity Show.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
Hi, his don just wanted to mention.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
And by the way, I had no idea that your
governor was such a jackass. Good grief.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
Oh yes, yes, with that seventy two inch waistline, you know,
I mean, who is he trying?
Speaker 7 (27:29):
A kid?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
But many too, I think he's getting better. Then. I'm
glad to hear it.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
Yeah, that's good. I just wanted to say that Tom
Holman has been talking about bringing back retired federal agents
ICE agents who have to mandatorily retired at age fifty seven,
so with twenty years experience, they have to have twenty
years at fifty seven. But he's talking about bringing them
(27:56):
back to do the processing of the illegal aliens for deportation.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And I love that idea. I love the idea that
they announced today. We have Christy Noman tonight about it.
I mean, we're telling people will pay for your plane
ticket to go home self deport We'll give you a
thousand dollars and you still have will have an opportunity
to enter the country again legally. If you don't self deport,
you'll never have a chance to get back in exactly.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
And you know a lot of people don't realize, especially
the mainstream media, that processing and deportation. Deportation is not
just putting them on a plane. It's a whole set
of legal documents that they have to sign and database
techs and et cetera, et cetera before they're deported. And
they do have the option to appear before an immigration judge. However,
a lot of them don't have a good case, and
(28:41):
the immigration judge is just going to say, where's your evidence?
You know what, what proof do you have that you
have the right to stay here.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
They're being very smart about this because they understand that
even that one case that you're talking about is going
to cost many, many more thousands than the thousand they'll
give them in a plane ticket. It's going to the
amount of money will spend on the healthcare system. I mean,
look at all the billions and hundreds of billions spent
over the years in California on illegal immigrant healthcare and
(29:10):
all the other states. Now we see Texas, We're getting
numbers from Texas that are just astronomical. We're paying for
all of this, and it's education. It's impacting our healthcare system,
our criminal justice system, it's hurting everything everything. Just get
out of here, come into the country legally, now's your
chance to self deport and you'll be able to retain
a right to maybe come back legally one.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Day if you want to.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
Three hundred percent, And that's the way it should be.
And being a son of immigrants, my mom was an immigrant,
my dad was born here. But I understand, and I
grew up in the Chicago area and I've seen it
all my life, the abuses, the fraud, the marriage fraud,
you know, driving without insurance, driving without licenses, staff, all
(29:53):
sorts of stuff. So you know, this is something that
most people in Congress don't realize. They live in their
ivory towers. But for the rest of us, nineteen percent
people live out here. We have to suffer the consequences
of their bad decisions.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Look, it's simple. If you and I were to do this,
we would be held accountable. All right, my friend, thanks
for the call. Eight hundred nine one Shaw is a number.
You want to be a part of the program, My
Free State of Florida. Let's say hi to Eduardo Edwardo.
You're on the Sean Henneredy Show.
Speaker 10 (30:32):
Hi, Hey Sean, it's great to hear from you. First
time calling on this on your show. Here one hundred
and seventy seven thousand jobs is great. We need to
keep on as far as Congress. They need to make
a push on this tax bill and other bills because
otherwise they can overturn these in the future. And Ellie
(30:53):
has like seventeen police helicopters. You can tell the economy
is doing well when they got seventeen helicopters, police electors
over there and come on of heres. I just saw
her on Daily Mail with her husband, Doug. I'm off
having dinner last night in mid tom You know the
economy doing well?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Is that the indication right there?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
There?
Speaker 8 (31:13):
You go?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, well, Dougie, the Dougie there.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Look, I.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Can only tell you that the one thing that we
want to revitalize is the American dream. The one thing
we need to get back to is freedom. The one
thing we need to start thinking anew is the size
and scope and influence of government. I go through my
laundry list of well, what is government doing so well?
How did Obamacare promises work out?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Not well? How did it work out with Social Security
and Medicare? Not well?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
How's your educational system in your small town, your big
city most places, it's not doing very well. How's it
working out with law and order and safety and security
in towns and cities that have adopted, you know, defund
dismantled nobail laws, uh particularly well. So if we want
to get back to constitutional order, we have got to
(32:06):
cut back on this bureaucracy, and we have to alter
our thinking away from somehow this belief system that too
many Americans have that government is going to take care
of your every need from the moment you're born to
the day you die. No, in a free society, don't
count on them. They're not trustworthy. They've proven themselves not trustworthy.
(32:30):
You know what, Take advantage of the freedom and protect
yourself and your family and provide for yourself and your family,
and work your ass off. That's my best advice to everybody.
All Right, when we come back, my interview with Secretary
of State now NSA director Marco Rubio, and so much
going on in the world is going to be a
lot happening this week, and we'll give you a preview
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