January 1, 2020 • 43 mins
While Sean rests for the New Year, "Best of Hannity" goes on a journey from January 1st of 2019 and tracks the many ways that the Mueller witch hunt was a complete failure.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, glad you're with us. We're waiting, hopefully, want
to see what happens with the judge in the Flynn
sentencing case. There was a three pm deadline Eastern Times
now three oh six Eastern that the Special Council needed
a hand over all the relevant three h two information
as it relates, interview information as it relates to General Flynn.
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I went through all of this in great specificity, in
detail yesterday. I still cannot believe that this has happened
in our country. The judge in this case, the guy
by the name of Emmett Sullivan, and he was the
one that presided over the appeal and overturn in the
Ted Stevens corruption case. Ted Stevens, if you don't remember,
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convicted on eight counts when he was a senator also
running for reelection, lost his reelection. But every one of those,
in every one of those charges, it was overthrown, and
this judge got so mad and so angry. New York
Times described it this way, Emmett Sullivan, speaking in a slow,
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deliberate manner that failed to conceal his anger, saying that
in the twenty five years he's been on the bench,
he had quote never seen mishandling and misconduct like what
I have seen by the Justice Department prosecutors who tried
the Stevens case. They write he did, and lacerating Judge
Sullivan's lacerating fourteen minute speech focusing on disclosures that prosecutors
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had improperly withheld evidence in the case, virtually guaranteeing reverberations
beyond the dismissal of the verdict in the case of
Senator Stevens, and that, by the way, Stevens lost his
whole career over it, so he was not guilty. And
this is what I keep saying Andrew Weisman as this history.
We've talked to author of the book License to Lie,
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Sidney Powell many times. It's must read book. When you
think that it can't happen in America, it can happen
in Erica. And the history of tampering with FBI three
h two's and I thought the Federalists made a very
strong case that I really make sense that well, there
had to be an earlier three o two because both
Struck and Page allude to it in their text messages,
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and Comey alluded to reading it before he was fired
in May but yet the official one on the record, well,
that would be the three O two from August. But
Flynn was interviewed the first week of the Trump presidency
on January twenty fourth. So, I mean, this is this
is going to be fascinating. I don't know why I
can see this judge. Maybe I'm wrong throwing the whole
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thing out, the plea, everything and saying it's over based
on misconduct. And I wonder if he will do what
he did the last time. Last time he ordered literally
a special investigation into the prosecutors, which is almost unheard of.
And you know, he talked about he actually named the
judge named a federal district court by Bill Clinton. And anyway,
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he talked about the troubling tendency he had among prosecutors
to stretch the boundaries of ethics restrictions, concealing evidence to
win cases. You know, it is a danger that you
see with prosecutors that its it becomes a game of
winning and losing to them instead of what's right and
what's wrong and what's just and what's not just. You
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know that we throw around the term prosecutorial discretion all
the time, but you know, it really does mean something
because I do think if that's your job day in
and day out, and maybe becomes cynical because you're dealing
with a lot of bad people, and you think everybody's lying,
and you think everybody's corrupt. But sometimes there are good
people that can caught up in bad situations that they're
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not guilty of, and wanting to weed them out and
find the truth ought to be the goal, not about
winning and not about losing. What's interesting, Kimberly Strassell had
a great piece out noting on This All Today about
Judge Emmett Sullivan demanding that Robert Muller produced these key
documents to justify his indictment of General Flynn. Now the
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problem here too is you got to remember none of
the FBI agents thought that General Flynn had line, including Struck,
including McCabe, and including Comy. And the bizarre part of
this is the statement that Comey had made. Let's go
back and play the statement that we have. This is
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James Comey admitting, well, I wouldn't have tried to pull
off this interview in the Bush administration or the Obama administration,
but I saw an opening and I took it. But
so that before the agents actually went in. There was
a call with Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director, and
he's telling General Flynn, now, you don't need a lawyer,
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and they're going in in a relaxed manner to see, well,
what's General Flynn's mood. The problem is they already had
illegal surveillance, unmasking in this particular case, and raw intelligence.
They had basically a print out of the conversation that
General Flynn had would assumed to be Russian counterpart and
anything that he said that maybe didn't match perfectly, meaning
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his recollection with what was on the transcript. They were
going to nail him for lying to the FBI. But
the question is will that never happen? Anyway? Here's what
Comey said, Well, I think should blow everybody away. You
look at this White House now, and it's hard to
imagine two FBI agents sending up in this same room.
How did that happen? I sent them something I probably
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wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a
more organized investigation and more organized administration in the George W.
Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration. The protocol
two men that all of us have perhaps increased appreciation
for over the last two years. And in both those
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administrations there was process and so if the FBI wanted
to send agents into the White House itself to interview
a senior official, you would work through the White House
Council and then be discussions and approvals and who would
be there. And I thought it's early enough, let's just
send a couple of guys over. I mean, he's bragging
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about it, bragging about it not being the standard order
of doing things because there's quote, this is a chaotic
White House. Well, they had only been in office four days.
It's breathtaking in terms of the magnitude of arrogance. And
you know this is a higher calling. Really, James Comey
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bragging about setting up a three star general thirty three
years of service to his country after you had your
deputy call over and say, nah, you don't need a lawyer.
I can't imagine. The Special Council did submit the documents
about Plein's January twenty seventeen interview with the FBI. It's
going to be interesting. Was there are other three O two's.
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Its information is just coming out as it gets out.
We'll get it to you. But anyway, back to the
Kimberly Strassel column today about Judge Emmett Sullivan's demanded and
it's now turned over. We now have confirmation they did
submit the documents to the judge, and you know they
have to now justify their indictment of General Michael Flynn.
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I've got to believe that this judge is seeing parallels
between Flynn's case and the FBI's corrupt attempt a railroad
Ted Stevens ten years ago. And it's not merely because
Judge Sullivan presided over both Stevens and Flynn's cases. It
turns out that the same Justice Department official who played
a critical role in the Stevens case now presides over
the highly dubious prosecution of General Flynt. Because that person
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is none other than Robert Muller. You know, we keep
getting back to the same group of people. Well, you know,
we keep getting back to who. By the way, if
we can print that out, I see it's now currently available. Linda,
thank you. You still have Rod Rosenstein and Comey and
McCabe and Robert Mueller. They're all on this little They're
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always touching base in there throughout the entirety of their careers,
and it makes you wonder. And I was the one
that was always warning why did Robert Muller, who, by
the way, James Comey was hoping would get appointed special counsel,
which is why he leaked information that may be a
legal problem for him in the end too, but leaked
it to the professor to the New York Times for
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the purpose of getting a special counsel. But the sad
thing is is Comey's after Trump on the fourth day
of his administration because if you're gonna treat him and
his administration differently, then you treated past administrations, and you're
gonna break all protocols to do it. You know, you're
gonna sign off on a FAISA application, one that you
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have to say, according to Rod Rosenstein, to the best
of your knowledge, is true. And James Comey signed the
first FISA warrant application in October of twenty sixteen based
on we now know the phony Clinton Boughton paid for
Russian line dossier. And then in January before he became president,
when he was President elect, Donald Trump meets with all
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of these guys Clapper call me, etc. Comey pulls him
aside and says, just so you know there's there's dossier
out there, it's unproven and it's salacious. Well that's not
what they would telling the FISA court back in October,
you know, or when they were just about to renew it.
Probably right around that time. They weren't telling the FISA
Court the court that it wasn't verified either, and they
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never told the FISA Court who paid for it. None
of this is standard operating procedure. The fact that he's
so arrogantly bragging about the fact I sent my agents
over their two chaotic let's take advantage. We'll tell Flynn
not to get a lawyer, and then we'll charge him
with perjury. I it blows my mind. Kimberly Strassel writes
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Emmett Sullivan got a wake up call in two thousand
and eight while overseeing the trial of Senator Ted Stevens
of Alaska. Judge Sullivan ultimately assigned a lawyer to investigate
the Justice Department misconduct. The investigator's report found the prosecutors
that engaged in deliberate, repeated ethical violations withholding key evidence
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from the defense. It also excoriated the FBI for failing
to write up three O two's for omitting key facts
from those it did write. The head of the FBI
at the time was Robert Mueller, and Judge Sullivan since
has made it his practice to begin every case with
a Brady Order, which were minds prosecutors of their constitutional
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obligation to provide the defense with any exculpatory evidence. And
on December twelve, twenty seventeen days after being assigned the
Flint case, Judge Sullivan issued that order instruct Muller's team
to turn over any evidence in its possession that is
favorable to the defendant and material either to defendants guild
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or punishment. And had the other had any other judge
drawn that case, we likely would never have seen the
details of the FBI's behavior. So it's clear something has
this judge on high alert here, and he's seeing the
obvious parallels. I think, and Kimberly Strassold clearly agrees in
her peace to the Stevens case because the media was
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predicting a quick ruling in the Flynn case. Now Judge Sullivan,
with his new orders, is demanding to see for himself
the McKay memo and the Flynn three O two and
ordering the special counsel to hand over today the other
documents they've since been handed over. Special counsels you know,
says defendants co operation military service justify a sentence at
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the low end of the guideline range. Any judges have
the ability to reject plead deals. They can require a
prosecutor make a case at a trial. Criminal justice system
isn't only about holding defendants accountable. Trials also provide oversight
of investigators in their tactics. Judges are not obliged to
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follow prosecutors sentencing recommendations. You know, no one knows what
Judge Tulliver's going to do here, but his reputation is
no nonsense, straight shooter advocate for government transparency. And my
gut is telling me that this is gonna this is
not gonna break the way Mueller thinks it's gonna break.
So we'll see why we're finding all this supenis. Look,
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these aren't like impartial people. The Democrats are trying to
win twenty twenty. They're not gonna win with the people
that I see, and they're not gonna win against me.
The only way they can maybe luck out, and I
don't think that's gonna happen. It might make it even
the opposite. That's what a lot of people are saying.
The only way they can look out is by constantly
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going after me or nonsense. But they'd be really focused
on legislation, not the things that have been This has
been litigated, just so you understand, this has been litigated
for the last two years, almost since I got into office. Now,
if you want to litigate, go after the DNC, Crooked Hillary,
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the dirty cops, all of these things. That's what should
be litigated, because that was a rigged system. And I'm
breaking down. I am breaking down the swamp. If you
look at what's happening, they're getting caught, they're getting fired.
Who knows what's going to happen from now on, but
I hope it's I hope it's very strong. But if
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you look at, drain the swamp, I am draining the swamp.
Thank you very much. All right. That was the President
earlier today our two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred and
nine for one Sean Tolfrey telephone number. You want to
be a part of the program. President, the most cooperative
of any investigation and ever going on in a modern
day presidency, and by the way, that includes Barack Obama.
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That includes the Clintons, all of that include George W.
Bush's administration. They all exerted executive privilege this president none,
not once, nobody. I could not believe the idea that
the White House General Counsel Don McGinn spent thirty hours
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with Muller. He seems to think that he's the one
that saved the republic. Not exactly. If Donald Donald Trump
had it even within his authority to fire Muller under
Article two of the Constitution, he could have fired him.
Just because you're complaining about a witch hunt, that's not obstruction.
Just because you're complaining about Rod Roseen, that's not and
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it's a witch hunt, that's not obstruction, none of it.
So now that we have the look at what the
Democrats are moving in a thous in different directions because
they can't accept now the fourth definitive investigation that says
no Trump Russia collusion. Hurst the FBI nine month investigation
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even struck him Paige and said nope, we had nothing.
No they're there. Then of course we have the House
Intel Committee their investigation, Nope, nothing, and we have the
Bipartisan Senate Committee, Nope, nothing. Now the Muller report can't
be any more clear on any of these issues. Oh then, well,
well let's weaponize the IRS. But no real reason at
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all except that let's go after his taxes. That'll we'll
get him there. I'm sure there's a reason why he
was audited all those years anyway. So now they want
to impeach the IRS commission or for not turning over
Trump's taxes. Elijah Cummings wants to hold stonewalling White House
witnesses in contempt on the same issue. Unbelieved Nadler wants
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to jail Trump officials who won't comply with his subpoenas.
Why are they going to pay for the attorneys in DC?
A thousand dollars an hour for a decent attorney, Maybe
eight hundred if you're lucky, six hundred if they give
you a cut rate. But these people have all been interviewed.
Maxie Waters claims America's clamoring for impeachment. No, Now, Lindsey
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Graham is going to join us at the bottom of
the half hour. He's gonna be telling us where his
investigation is going to be going, and also that he
believes there's going to be a Democratic Party stampede, stampede
to impeach the president anyway. Here to sort through all
the legal issues on all of this, we have Alan Dershowitz,
who Professor Harvard, and he contributed an introduction to Skyhorse
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Publishing's edition of the Muller Report. Greg jarrett Is best
seller The Russia Hoax. All right, I want to ask
you both. Here's where I think we've got to go
in this. We now have evidence that Hillary's investigation was
rigged from the beginning, even struck in page recognize such
eighteen USC. Seven ninety three. The Espionage Act is clear.
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That's the underlying crime, the intent to take some pen
at emails to lead thirty three thousand of them, bleach
bit your hard drive, eliminate the evidence, speed up your devices,
remove sim cards. That would be an intent to obstruct.
I think we got to make that one bucket number two.
We got to get into the whole fives abuse. The
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Inspector General will weigh in on that was their fraud
committed to obtain warrants to spy on the Trump campaign.
We also have to get into the spying of the
Trump campaign stefan helper who enlisted them, etc. And we
need to get into the whole issue of why did
we have a three hundred and fifty percent increase in
unmasking American citizens in twenty sixteen. That's an important bucket.
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Then we've got to get the release of the fives warrants,
scang of eight information three oz two's as we've been
telling you, five bucks gets there. Then we've got to
get into the question of, Okay, those people that tried
to undo an election and bludgeon a president, when did
they know that there was no collusion and why didn't
they investigate Hillary's dirty dossier, which The New York Times
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suggests this week could have been all disinformation to create
chaos from the beginning, We'll start with you, Professor Dershowitz.
Where do we go next? Well, I think the most
important thing is the way in which the Fizer Court
was misled. We now know for certain that the information
provided to the Fiser Court in the X party application
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was incomplete. It was not the whole truth. It was
a half truth, and a half truth is a lie,
and I think there should be an investigation conducted by
the Inspector General apparently that's going on, but also by
the Fizer Court. Itself. The Fizer court was misled, and
I think there was a contempt of court committed by
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those A who submitted application without indicating the source, and
B failed to correct the FISA application once they got
more information about the source and indeed sort renewals of
the FISA application. So those are I think very important
areas for any civil libitarian, because you remember, FISA warrants
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can be issued against any of us, and if it
can be done without any consequence based on misleading and
incomplete information, then we're all victims. And so I think
you start with anything that involves every American potentially a
victim of a violation of civil liberties. That has to
be the first order of business. Do you think the
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President is right? Before I get to Greg, Professor, the
President is right saying, you know what, you've had your
four investigations. We're going to fight everything now. He never
used executive privilege. He could have. He could have prevented
people from talking to Muller. He could have fired Mueller.
By the way, I think you'll even agree he could
have done so legally under his authority under Article too
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without a doubt. And in the introduction to my book,
I go through the whole obstruction of justice argument presented
by Mueller. Mueller turns out to be dead wrong on
the law. He has some idea that if in fact,
the President had decided to fire Mueller, indeed, firing Comey
he thinks could be an obstruction of justice. He just
has the law wrong. By the way, on the Amazon reviews,
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everybody's ganging up on me. All the anti Trump people
are writing terrible reviews saying I never should have been
allowed to do the introduction to the book because I'm
objective and honest and nonpartisan. So I urge any of
you who read my introduction and who think differently write
a review saying my introduction is objective, it's nonpartisan. I
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end by saying I would have written the same review,
the same introduction if the shoe had been on the
other foot, if Hillary Clinton had been impeached improperly or
been subject to an investigation and improperly, I would have
been defending her as well. I am not defending Trump
on a partisan basis. I'm defending civil liberties and constitutional rights.
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Greg Jarrett Well, I want to say I just ordered
Professor's book, and I anxiously look forward to reading the
Obstruction of Justice. Why doesn't he just give us a
free copy. I mean, we're friends to get a free copy,
or you have to write a review and you get
a free copy. Deal. But you know, this is why
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prosecutors should never comment on uncharged crimes. It's unfair to
the uncharged person. Mueller went out of his way to
smear Trump with the patina of a crime that he
couldn't prove. Mueller didn't find sufficient evidence for an obstruction charge.
If he had, he would have said so. So what
he does is he turned the law completely upside down
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and he says, wow, I couldn't prove the president didn't dropped.
You know, prosecutors are not in the business of exoneration.
They're in the business of proving crimes based on evidence.
Muller couldn't prove an obstruction and when Coomey went after
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Hillary Clinton that way, we all objected. Democrats and Republicans
are life. Why is it different when Mueller goes after
people who have not been charged and sets out non
criminal conduct that he disagrees with. That's not the proper
function of If Muller could not prove an obstruction crime,
and he could not, then he should have simply stated
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that he wasn't recommending any charges. Anything other than that
is blatantly unfair. I agree, I agree, And let me
let me ask you, this is Trump clear when it's
done to Trump? Is Trump right not to cooperate any further?
Considering there's been four separate conclusions and investigations on this, well,
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you know he has to listen to his lawyer on this.
I think that he would. I would certainly advise them
not to testify. My advice to him wasn't don't pardon,
don't fire, don't testify, and don't tweet. He listened to
three of them, but not the fourth. But right now
I would say it depends. If you think the investigations
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by Congress are improperly motivated and don't have a legitimate
legislative purpose, you have no obligation not to raise your
constitutional privileges. And remember, executive privilege is designed to protect
all Americans, not just the president. It's designed to protect
the president c from improper intrusion by the legislative or
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the judicial branch. And so it's there as part of
our separation of powers and checks and balances to protect
all Americans. He's not just doing it in a self
serving way. Nadaler is now taking the position, Well, you've
waived the privilege because McGann and spoke with a special counsel,
no as special counsel, as an employee of the Department
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of Justice. So you've got one branch of the Department
of Justice, White House counsel talking to another branch of
the executive So it's not a waiver of a privilege
at all. You can actually never waive executive privilege. It's
been invoked by almost every president. The first was George Washington,
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who invoked it. All right, when we get back, I
want both of you to debate the question as to
what we do with a Hillary Clinton question and how
far back who needs to be held accountable? Right as
we were all along, Alan Dershwitz, Greg Jarrett with us,
all right, what are your thoughts on the president challenging
these a penis Who's going to win this battle? Greg Jarrett? Well,
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I think the president will because it does appear that
this is nothing more than presidential harassment. You know, there
has to be a reasonable basis for this. That is
to say, there has to be some sort of articulable
factual basis for the investigation that indicates that a crime
has or will take place. Well, there's none of that here.
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This is a fishing expedition, a safari to search for
anything under any rock they can find to damage Trump.
I think the President has a solid legal basis to
oppose it. What do you think, Alan Durshoy I have
a slightly different view. I think that if subpoenas come
from the legislative branch, they don't have to be looking
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for crime. They can be looking for information relevant to
their appropriate role of legislating and oversight. But there comes
a time, and it happened during the McCarthy era, when
the Supreme Court or other courts will look at subpoenas
and look at request for testimony and say, enough's enough.
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You've now exceeded your legitimate authority and you're just doing
this to harass or expose. Well, are we there aper
function of Congress? I think, don't you think we're at
a point? Professor? Come on, well, no, that's the point.
And I think the courts will look at it on
a case by case basis. They're not going to just
say willie nilly that no subpoenas will be enforced. They'll
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look at every subpoena, they'll look at whether there's an
articular basis for any legitimate legislative purpose, and I think
they will begin to refuse to enforce some of them,
as they did during the McCarthy period. But what about
all these what about all these one what about all
these people that are going to be called back again?
They can't afford these lawyers that are very expensive. Listen, professor,
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what do you charge an hour? A lot? You know,
you don't want to know. Half of my cases a
pro bonal. The half are pretty expensive because I do
represent a lot of very wealthy people, and even if
you're wealthy, getting these subpoenas can really really be very expensive.
Washington lawyers do charge in excess of a thousand dollars
an hour, and the hours accumulate because you have to
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do the research, you have to check out all the facts.
And so we're talking easily about six figure legal bills
that can sometimes get up to the seven figures. Yeah, Greg, Yeah,
I mean look at people like Jerome. Course, he was
never charged with anything, he was threatened. They tried to
pressure and extort him into signing a false statement implicating Trump,
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which would have been a lie. You know, that's the
equivalent of attempting to suborn perjury. He had to hire
a team of lawyers to represent him, you know, and
his bank account is empty as a results. Look at
General Flint wrong, You have both mccabegging. He doesn't need
a lawyer. Then call me bragging, hau. I wouldn't do
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this in the Obama Bush administrations, top two FBI guys,
this setting him up, I mean, professor, and then he
loses his house. Now he's millions of dollars in debt.
They threatened to go after his kid. This is how
we treat thirty three year veterans that put their lives
in harm's way. Look, it's a terrible, terrible thing, and
it's been a terrible thing for many years that prosecutors
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do abuse their authority. You know, the idea of arresting
people at gunpoint, whether it be somebody who is like
a stone or somebody who is Felicity Huffman, whatever you
think of them, you don't have to arrest people at
gunpoint and threaten them and show how powerful and strong
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you are. And you don't have to I got a
run into them. You can write them a nice letter
saying if you have any information, please provide it, but
you know it turns to harassment at some point. And
all right, I gotta let you both go. Thank you,
Professor Dershowitz, Thank you, Greg Jared, all right, glad you
with us. Happy Friday, Happy Passover, Happy Good Friday, Holy Saturday,
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and Happy Easter Sunday. We have so much, all of
us to be thankful for the greatest, freest, best country
God has ever given man, a country that has accumulated
more power than in any other country in the history
of mankind, and abused it less and advanced the human
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condition all over the world more the United States of America.
There's one blessing. That's why all of this that we've
been dealing with, all that is about to come, is
so important when it's never been a perfect country known.
But in their wisdom, our framers, our founders, they created
a system of governance. And remember, government in its best
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state is but a necessary evil, and its worst state
an intolerable one. That was Thomas Paine. He also said,
where the guides and dictates of conscience irresistibly obeyed conscience
meaning defined as God telling us right and wrong in
our hearts, and we all are failures in that respect,
there would be no need for government. But that not
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being the case. We've got the best system and it
keeps getting threatened by very powerful people. That's what this
is all about. Forget listen. People have been writing me
telling me, you know a lot of things, some favorable too.
I mean, thank you for staying on this for two years.
Thank you for the team that you put together that
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have have That is maybe twenty five thirty of us,
including my TV and radio staff that you know radio
more than TV, the names that we talk about every day,
and the ones that jump in and interrupt me all
the time here on my own show and don't even
ask permission to put on the mic every once in
a while. But I'm just teasing. But there's maybe twenty
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five or thirty of us. The rest of the corrupt media,
they were in unison and what is the biggest lie
ever told? Group think lie And it was a coordination
with a Democratic party apparatus will or apparatchek, whatever you prefer,
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and a media that is compliant and in unison with
their message and has a political agenda and they share
one common trait, a psychotic rage and hatred of all
things Donald Trump. That means Donald Trump, all his family,
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all that he stands for, anybody that likes him. Remember,
we're the smelly Walmart people, those of us that like Trump.
We're the ones that are I can smell them the
Walmart to get smelly Walmart Trump voters. We are in
their private moments, we're looked down on. You know, the
people who are the people that really make this country great,
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it's we the people. It doesn't matter what you do
for a living. Everybody I know gets up out of bed.
They serve other people, you know, and in the process
they get to make some money so that they can
buy a house in a car and or get an
apartment or whatever you're doing. You know, every business is
either you're producing goods of services for other people. Like
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a mailman. A mailman. I love my mailman, I love
my UPS driver. I get to I love my FedEx driver.
I get to know these guys. They're great guys, and
every day they got to work their ass off. They're
like being monitored and GPS around their route every day,
and god forbid, they stopped for lunch ten seconds longer
than they should. They're getting trouble. It's ridiculous. And all
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you know, if you go to a restaurant, think of
all the people that are behind the scenes to get
that meal to you and your family or friends or
wherever you happen to be hanging out with. I mean, first,
you got you know, you got the cooks, you got
the waiter, you got the bus boys, you got the bartenders,
you got you know, all these people serving you. But
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then you hopefully leave them a good tip and they
get they get paid for what they do, and you
have a great meal and you have a good time,
and the good restaurants will stay in business and the
bad ones will go out of business. And but that
that's what life is. And it's just when you see
that ninety nine point nine nine percent of the media
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went hawk Lyne and sink her into lying daily with
anonymous sources, breathless hysteria, hyper ventilating fake news, conspiracy TV,
and the noise continues. It's not like they're going out
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there today or yesterday and saying, wow, every time we
said Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Trump, Russia, Russia, Trump, Trump, Trump, collusion, collusion, collusion.
You know, you might think at some point they say, um,
oh we might have gotten us all wrong. We might
uh well, uh, let's talk about the steal dossier. You know,
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what they have done here is irreparable harm to the
country and to themselves. Their inability to retract, to apologize,
to their inability of any self reflection or introspection. You know,
I was raised Catholics. I was talking about I feel
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guilty over everything. I have bad thoughts, I feel guilty,
and you know, it's it's just one of those things.
But I've never looked at that guilt as necessarily a
bad thing, because often it informs me that maybe I'm wrong.
The hardest words for people to say is I'm wrong.
I'm sorry, And that's a big part of life. But
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we're imperfect people, that's just who we are. But you know,
we have major components here because what happened puts this
great democratic republic, this constitutional republic, in jeopardy. These are
not words that I came up with for the sake
of speaking them. When we talk about a dual justice system,
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an equal justice under the law, an equal application of
our laws. If you really want to sum it up
into different phases. You know, you have one phase where
you have a favored candidate that committed felonies, violated the
Espionage Act. There's no debate any longer. The evidence is there, overwhelming, incontrovertible,
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irrefutable evidence that Hillary Clinton and top seeker classified information
on a private email server likely hacked by six foreign
intelligence services. But that's a different story. That probably one
of them Russia, probably another one North Korea, probably another one, China,
probably another one Japan, and god knows how many others.
That's why you don't put it there. And then you know,
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you had a group of people that favored her. Even
the person interviewing her thinks that she should win one
hundred million zero and said so, and still got the
interviews and was writing her exoneration in May of twenty
sixteen before the interview of her and seventeen other key witnesses,
and actually allowed in the interview Hillary to bring to
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other people in You think that would be afforded to
General Flynn, who both McCabe and Coby bragged about setting
up the deputy FBI director. I told him he doesn't
need a lawyer and callby saying, oh, sure. I wouldn't
do this in the Obama administration or the Bush administrators.
I took full advantage of the chaos on day four
the Trump administration. Okay, that's how we treat thirty three
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year veterans to our country, and then and then create
a perjury trap. And then even after they find out
the FBI still didn't think he lied, but because he
has no more money, because he worked in the for
the military, not in the private sector where we'd make
a lot more money, then they're like throwing the book. Well,
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either you signed us that you lied to the FBI,
or and you cooperate with us so we can put
the screws to you so that you'll sing or compose,
or we're gonna have you were in business with your son.
We're gonna begin our investigation into your family. What father
and husband's not gonna say, screw it, just dive on
the sword. I'll go to jail. I'm not going to
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let that happen to my family. And now he's millions
of dollars in debt and he's still facing sentencing. But
the three components are what they are. You've got a
rigged investigation by biased people that abuse their power. And
then you've got everybody knew bruce Or testified to it
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in August to twenty sixteen, including the pit bull of
Robert Muller's team. They knew that, in fact, Hillary bought
the irony of all ironies, bought and paid for a
Russiana with money she funneled from a law firm to
an op research firm to hire a foreign national who's
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not supposed to influence our elections. That that foreign national
we knew. In August the twenty sixteen, according to bruce
Or hated Trump had an agenda. Hillary bought and paid
for it the opposition party, and it can't be verified
because even its own author, under oath, in an interrogatory said,
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I have no idea if it's true. So you rig
Hillary's investigation. She gets to remain in the race, the
favored candidate over the you know, the candidate that should
lose one hundred million to zero. That is a loathsome
human being. According to Struck in page please tell me
he's not gonna win, and then well, if he does,
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we have an insurance policy. Then we have the outright
spying of the Trump campaign. Stefan Helper is tasked to
spy on Carter Page, Popadopoulos and also Sam Clovis. Then
they lie to a fires of court. They didn't tell
the fires a court Christopher Steele hates Trump. They didn't
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tell the fires of court Hillary paid for it. They
just had an astro saying might have slight political team.
That's not that's not being that's that's lying by omission
to a court. That is an outright fraud to a court.
They didn't tell the court that it was unverified. We
now know it's unverifiable. Even Steele doesn't believe in his
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own dossier. And then they used that to spy. Once
you got into Carter Pages old emails, you were in
the whole. You were in the hole. You were in
all of Trump world at that point. And then that
information from that phony dossier was leaked. Harry Reid got
some let's see Michael Izikoff, David Korne the Washington Post.
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Well where did they get the dossier information from? When?
Why was it disseminated? Well, oh, they got it from
the deep state. We believe probably Clapper or Brennan, maybe
Brennan more than Clapper. And it needs to be investigated.
And they wrote about it Hooker's Ritz, Carlton Moscow p
and on Donald Trump's bed. Not true, but people heard it.
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It went pretty viral before the election. Why to impact
the election, and then it's used to influence the election,
and then lo and behold they lose anything that was
nobody expected that part. And then when they lose, well
that's all right because now they've got the insurance policy.
James Comey signed that first FISA application that was a
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fraud before the court in October of twenty sixteen, before
the election, and he heads on up to Trump Tower
when it's President elect Trump and pulls him aside and says, yeah,
just so you know, there's a stasier out there. It's salacious,
but it's not verified. Well that's not what he was
saying to the FISA court three months prior. So either
helied in October twenty sixteen, who was lying in January
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twenty seventeen, and then the whole lead up. We have
three invest foreign investigations, no collusion. You know, how many
more times do I need to read from the Mueller
report before it is etched in the brain of these
fake news, lying conspiracy theorists in the media that the
investigation did not establish members of the Trump campaign conspired
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or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.
And they every time they said it, they were lying
every anonymous source. They were breathlessly, you know, hyperventilating on
the air, breathlessly reporting fake news, lies, conspiracies, and no reflection. Today,
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later on we have Heraldo on. Well, we also have
Sidney Powell, Peter Schweitzer, John Solomon's got a lot of
news of what's coming. We're gonna get into that too.
Horaldo wonders if if there's any Democratic candidate that's going
to apologize. The answers, No, Horaldo, we'll have you on
in a little bit to talk about it. It's not
gonna happen. All right. Let me tell you about blinds
dot com. We have a lot to get to today,
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Happy Friday, and all they're gonna say to you one
last thing before we go to break. Don't listen to
the noise anymore. They're just doubling down on stupid. They
have forever been exposed for who they are, and they
are about to be hit with the biggest avalanche tsunami
of truth that proves that they are liars and have
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been from the beginning, and conspiracy theorists that nobody will
ever trust them again, nor should they. There's a reason
why we've been right and they've been wrong, and I'm
not taking the credit. So an ensemblecast of very brave
people that we've all worked really hard to get to
truth and we got there. And believe me, you think
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a lot of these people like us, No, they want us,
want to take us all out.
All right, glad you're with us. We're waiting, hopefully, want
to see what happens with the judge in the Flynn
sentencing case. There was a three pm deadline Eastern Times
now three oh six Eastern that the Special Council needed
a hand over all the relevant three h two information
as it relates, interview information as it relates to General Flynn.
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I went through all of this in great specificity, in
detail yesterday. I still cannot believe that this has happened
in our country. The judge in this case, the guy
by the name of Emmett Sullivan, and he was the
one that presided over the appeal and overturn in the
Ted Stevens corruption case. Ted Stevens, if you don't remember,
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convicted on eight counts when he was a senator also
running for reelection, lost his reelection. But every one of those,
in every one of those charges, it was overthrown, and
this judge got so mad and so angry. New York
Times described it this way, Emmett Sullivan, speaking in a slow,
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deliberate manner that failed to conceal his anger, saying that
in the twenty five years he's been on the bench,
he had quote never seen mishandling and misconduct like what
I have seen by the Justice Department prosecutors who tried
the Stevens case. They write he did, and lacerating Judge
Sullivan's lacerating fourteen minute speech focusing on disclosures that prosecutors
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had improperly withheld evidence in the case, virtually guaranteeing reverberations
beyond the dismissal of the verdict in the case of
Senator Stevens, and that, by the way, Stevens lost his
whole career over it, so he was not guilty. And
this is what I keep saying Andrew Weisman as this history.
We've talked to author of the book License to Lie,
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Sidney Powell many times. It's must read book. When you
think that it can't happen in America, it can happen
in Erica. And the history of tampering with FBI three
h two's and I thought the Federalists made a very
strong case that I really make sense that well, there
had to be an earlier three o two because both
Struck and Page allude to it in their text messages,
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and Comey alluded to reading it before he was fired
in May but yet the official one on the record, well,
that would be the three O two from August. But
Flynn was interviewed the first week of the Trump presidency
on January twenty fourth. So, I mean, this is this
is going to be fascinating. I don't know why I
can see this judge. Maybe I'm wrong throwing the whole
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thing out, the plea, everything and saying it's over based
on misconduct. And I wonder if he will do what
he did the last time. Last time he ordered literally
a special investigation into the prosecutors, which is almost unheard of.
And you know, he talked about he actually named the
judge named a federal district court by Bill Clinton. And anyway,
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he talked about the troubling tendency he had among prosecutors
to stretch the boundaries of ethics restrictions, concealing evidence to
win cases. You know, it is a danger that you
see with prosecutors that its it becomes a game of
winning and losing to them instead of what's right and
what's wrong and what's just and what's not just. You
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know that we throw around the term prosecutorial discretion all
the time, but you know, it really does mean something
because I do think if that's your job day in
and day out, and maybe becomes cynical because you're dealing
with a lot of bad people, and you think everybody's lying,
and you think everybody's corrupt. But sometimes there are good
people that can caught up in bad situations that they're
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not guilty of, and wanting to weed them out and
find the truth ought to be the goal, not about
winning and not about losing. What's interesting, Kimberly Strassell had
a great piece out noting on This All Today about
Judge Emmett Sullivan demanding that Robert Muller produced these key
documents to justify his indictment of General Flynn. Now the
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problem here too is you got to remember none of
the FBI agents thought that General Flynn had line, including Struck,
including McCabe, and including Comy. And the bizarre part of
this is the statement that Comey had made. Let's go
back and play the statement that we have. This is
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James Comey admitting, well, I wouldn't have tried to pull
off this interview in the Bush administration or the Obama administration,
but I saw an opening and I took it. But
so that before the agents actually went in. There was
a call with Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director, and
he's telling General Flynn, now, you don't need a lawyer,
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and they're going in in a relaxed manner to see, well,
what's General Flynn's mood. The problem is they already had
illegal surveillance, unmasking in this particular case, and raw intelligence.
They had basically a print out of the conversation that
General Flynn had would assumed to be Russian counterpart and
anything that he said that maybe didn't match perfectly, meaning
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his recollection with what was on the transcript. They were
going to nail him for lying to the FBI. But
the question is will that never happen? Anyway? Here's what
Comey said, Well, I think should blow everybody away. You
look at this White House now, and it's hard to
imagine two FBI agents sending up in this same room.
How did that happen? I sent them something I probably
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wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a
more organized investigation and more organized administration in the George W.
Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration. The protocol
two men that all of us have perhaps increased appreciation
for over the last two years. And in both those
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administrations there was process and so if the FBI wanted
to send agents into the White House itself to interview
a senior official, you would work through the White House
Council and then be discussions and approvals and who would
be there. And I thought it's early enough, let's just
send a couple of guys over. I mean, he's bragging
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about it, bragging about it not being the standard order
of doing things because there's quote, this is a chaotic
White House. Well, they had only been in office four days.
It's breathtaking in terms of the magnitude of arrogance. And
you know this is a higher calling. Really, James Comey
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bragging about setting up a three star general thirty three
years of service to his country after you had your
deputy call over and say, nah, you don't need a lawyer.
I can't imagine. The Special Council did submit the documents
about Plein's January twenty seventeen interview with the FBI. It's
going to be interesting. Was there are other three O two's.
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Its information is just coming out as it gets out.
We'll get it to you. But anyway, back to the
Kimberly Strassel column today about Judge Emmett Sullivan's demanded and
it's now turned over. We now have confirmation they did
submit the documents to the judge, and you know they
have to now justify their indictment of General Michael Flynn.
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I've got to believe that this judge is seeing parallels
between Flynn's case and the FBI's corrupt attempt a railroad
Ted Stevens ten years ago. And it's not merely because
Judge Sullivan presided over both Stevens and Flynn's cases. It
turns out that the same Justice Department official who played
a critical role in the Stevens case now presides over
the highly dubious prosecution of General Flynt. Because that person
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is none other than Robert Muller. You know, we keep
getting back to the same group of people. Well, you know,
we keep getting back to who. By the way, if
we can print that out, I see it's now currently available. Linda,
thank you. You still have Rod Rosenstein and Comey and
McCabe and Robert Mueller. They're all on this little They're
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always touching base in there throughout the entirety of their careers,
and it makes you wonder. And I was the one
that was always warning why did Robert Muller, who, by
the way, James Comey was hoping would get appointed special counsel,
which is why he leaked information that may be a
legal problem for him in the end too, but leaked
it to the professor to the New York Times for
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the purpose of getting a special counsel. But the sad
thing is is Comey's after Trump on the fourth day
of his administration because if you're gonna treat him and
his administration differently, then you treated past administrations, and you're
gonna break all protocols to do it. You know, you're
gonna sign off on a FAISA application, one that you
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have to say, according to Rod Rosenstein, to the best
of your knowledge, is true. And James Comey signed the
first FISA warrant application in October of twenty sixteen based
on we now know the phony Clinton Boughton paid for
Russian line dossier. And then in January before he became president,
when he was President elect, Donald Trump meets with all
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of these guys Clapper call me, etc. Comey pulls him
aside and says, just so you know there's there's dossier
out there, it's unproven and it's salacious. Well that's not
what they would telling the FISA court back in October,
you know, or when they were just about to renew it.
Probably right around that time. They weren't telling the FISA
Court the court that it wasn't verified either, and they
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never told the FISA Court who paid for it. None
of this is standard operating procedure. The fact that he's
so arrogantly bragging about the fact I sent my agents
over their two chaotic let's take advantage. We'll tell Flynn
not to get a lawyer, and then we'll charge him
with perjury. I it blows my mind. Kimberly Strassel writes
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Emmett Sullivan got a wake up call in two thousand
and eight while overseeing the trial of Senator Ted Stevens
of Alaska. Judge Sullivan ultimately assigned a lawyer to investigate
the Justice Department misconduct. The investigator's report found the prosecutors
that engaged in deliberate, repeated ethical violations withholding key evidence
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from the defense. It also excoriated the FBI for failing
to write up three O two's for omitting key facts
from those it did write. The head of the FBI
at the time was Robert Mueller, and Judge Sullivan since
has made it his practice to begin every case with
a Brady Order, which were minds prosecutors of their constitutional
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obligation to provide the defense with any exculpatory evidence. And
on December twelve, twenty seventeen days after being assigned the
Flint case, Judge Sullivan issued that order instruct Muller's team
to turn over any evidence in its possession that is
favorable to the defendant and material either to defendants guild
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or punishment. And had the other had any other judge
drawn that case, we likely would never have seen the
details of the FBI's behavior. So it's clear something has
this judge on high alert here, and he's seeing the
obvious parallels. I think, and Kimberly Strassold clearly agrees in
her peace to the Stevens case because the media was
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predicting a quick ruling in the Flynn case. Now Judge Sullivan,
with his new orders, is demanding to see for himself
the McKay memo and the Flynn three O two and
ordering the special counsel to hand over today the other
documents they've since been handed over. Special counsels you know,
says defendants co operation military service justify a sentence at
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the low end of the guideline range. Any judges have
the ability to reject plead deals. They can require a
prosecutor make a case at a trial. Criminal justice system
isn't only about holding defendants accountable. Trials also provide oversight
of investigators in their tactics. Judges are not obliged to
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follow prosecutors sentencing recommendations. You know, no one knows what
Judge Tulliver's going to do here, but his reputation is
no nonsense, straight shooter advocate for government transparency. And my
gut is telling me that this is gonna this is
not gonna break the way Mueller thinks it's gonna break.
So we'll see why we're finding all this supenis. Look,
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these aren't like impartial people. The Democrats are trying to
win twenty twenty. They're not gonna win with the people
that I see, and they're not gonna win against me.
The only way they can maybe luck out, and I
don't think that's gonna happen. It might make it even
the opposite. That's what a lot of people are saying.
The only way they can look out is by constantly
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going after me or nonsense. But they'd be really focused
on legislation, not the things that have been This has
been litigated, just so you understand, this has been litigated
for the last two years, almost since I got into office. Now,
if you want to litigate, go after the DNC, Crooked Hillary,
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the dirty cops, all of these things. That's what should
be litigated, because that was a rigged system. And I'm
breaking down. I am breaking down the swamp. If you
look at what's happening, they're getting caught, they're getting fired.
Who knows what's going to happen from now on, but
I hope it's I hope it's very strong. But if
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you look at, drain the swamp, I am draining the swamp.
Thank you very much. All right. That was the President
earlier today our two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred and
nine for one Sean Tolfrey telephone number. You want to
be a part of the program. President, the most cooperative
of any investigation and ever going on in a modern
day presidency, and by the way, that includes Barack Obama.
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That includes the Clintons, all of that include George W.
Bush's administration. They all exerted executive privilege this president none,
not once, nobody. I could not believe the idea that
the White House General Counsel Don McGinn spent thirty hours
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with Muller. He seems to think that he's the one
that saved the republic. Not exactly. If Donald Donald Trump
had it even within his authority to fire Muller under
Article two of the Constitution, he could have fired him.
Just because you're complaining about a witch hunt, that's not obstruction.
Just because you're complaining about Rod Roseen, that's not and
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it's a witch hunt, that's not obstruction, none of it.
So now that we have the look at what the
Democrats are moving in a thous in different directions because
they can't accept now the fourth definitive investigation that says
no Trump Russia collusion. Hurst the FBI nine month investigation
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even struck him Paige and said nope, we had nothing.
No they're there. Then of course we have the House
Intel Committee their investigation, Nope, nothing, and we have the
Bipartisan Senate Committee, Nope, nothing. Now the Muller report can't
be any more clear on any of these issues. Oh then, well,
well let's weaponize the IRS. But no real reason at
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all except that let's go after his taxes. That'll we'll
get him there. I'm sure there's a reason why he
was audited all those years anyway. So now they want
to impeach the IRS commission or for not turning over
Trump's taxes. Elijah Cummings wants to hold stonewalling White House
witnesses in contempt on the same issue. Unbelieved Nadler wants
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to jail Trump officials who won't comply with his subpoenas.
Why are they going to pay for the attorneys in DC?
A thousand dollars an hour for a decent attorney, Maybe
eight hundred if you're lucky, six hundred if they give
you a cut rate. But these people have all been interviewed.
Maxie Waters claims America's clamoring for impeachment. No, Now, Lindsey
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Graham is going to join us at the bottom of
the half hour. He's gonna be telling us where his
investigation is going to be going, and also that he
believes there's going to be a Democratic Party stampede, stampede
to impeach the president anyway. Here to sort through all
the legal issues on all of this, we have Alan Dershowitz,
who Professor Harvard, and he contributed an introduction to Skyhorse
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Publishing's edition of the Muller Report. Greg jarrett Is best
seller The Russia Hoax. All right, I want to ask
you both. Here's where I think we've got to go
in this. We now have evidence that Hillary's investigation was
rigged from the beginning, even struck in page recognize such
eighteen USC. Seven ninety three. The Espionage Act is clear.
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That's the underlying crime, the intent to take some pen
at emails to lead thirty three thousand of them, bleach
bit your hard drive, eliminate the evidence, speed up your devices,
remove sim cards. That would be an intent to obstruct.
I think we got to make that one bucket number two.
We got to get into the whole fives abuse. The
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Inspector General will weigh in on that was their fraud
committed to obtain warrants to spy on the Trump campaign.
We also have to get into the spying of the
Trump campaign stefan helper who enlisted them, etc. And we
need to get into the whole issue of why did
we have a three hundred and fifty percent increase in
unmasking American citizens in twenty sixteen. That's an important bucket.
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Then we've got to get the release of the fives warrants,
scang of eight information three oz two's as we've been
telling you, five bucks gets there. Then we've got to
get into the question of, Okay, those people that tried
to undo an election and bludgeon a president, when did
they know that there was no collusion and why didn't
they investigate Hillary's dirty dossier, which The New York Times
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suggests this week could have been all disinformation to create
chaos from the beginning, We'll start with you, Professor Dershowitz.
Where do we go next? Well, I think the most
important thing is the way in which the Fizer Court
was misled. We now know for certain that the information
provided to the Fiser Court in the X party application
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was incomplete. It was not the whole truth. It was
a half truth, and a half truth is a lie,
and I think there should be an investigation conducted by
the Inspector General apparently that's going on, but also by
the Fizer Court. Itself. The Fizer court was misled, and
I think there was a contempt of court committed by
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those A who submitted application without indicating the source, and
B failed to correct the FISA application once they got
more information about the source and indeed sort renewals of
the FISA application. So those are I think very important
areas for any civil libitarian, because you remember, FISA warrants
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can be issued against any of us, and if it
can be done without any consequence based on misleading and
incomplete information, then we're all victims. And so I think
you start with anything that involves every American potentially a
victim of a violation of civil liberties. That has to
be the first order of business. Do you think the
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President is right? Before I get to Greg, Professor, the
President is right saying, you know what, you've had your
four investigations. We're going to fight everything now. He never
used executive privilege. He could have. He could have prevented
people from talking to Muller. He could have fired Mueller.
By the way, I think you'll even agree he could
have done so legally under his authority under Article too
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without a doubt. And in the introduction to my book,
I go through the whole obstruction of justice argument presented
by Mueller. Mueller turns out to be dead wrong on
the law. He has some idea that if in fact,
the President had decided to fire Mueller, indeed, firing Comey
he thinks could be an obstruction of justice. He just
has the law wrong. By the way, on the Amazon reviews,
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everybody's ganging up on me. All the anti Trump people
are writing terrible reviews saying I never should have been
allowed to do the introduction to the book because I'm
objective and honest and nonpartisan. So I urge any of
you who read my introduction and who think differently write
a review saying my introduction is objective, it's nonpartisan. I
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end by saying I would have written the same review,
the same introduction if the shoe had been on the
other foot, if Hillary Clinton had been impeached improperly or
been subject to an investigation and improperly, I would have
been defending her as well. I am not defending Trump
on a partisan basis. I'm defending civil liberties and constitutional rights.
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Greg Jarrett Well, I want to say I just ordered
Professor's book, and I anxiously look forward to reading the
Obstruction of Justice. Why doesn't he just give us a
free copy. I mean, we're friends to get a free copy,
or you have to write a review and you get
a free copy. Deal. But you know, this is why
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prosecutors should never comment on uncharged crimes. It's unfair to
the uncharged person. Mueller went out of his way to
smear Trump with the patina of a crime that he
couldn't prove. Mueller didn't find sufficient evidence for an obstruction charge.
If he had, he would have said so. So what
he does is he turned the law completely upside down
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and he says, wow, I couldn't prove the president didn't dropped.
You know, prosecutors are not in the business of exoneration.
They're in the business of proving crimes based on evidence.
Muller couldn't prove an obstruction and when Coomey went after
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Hillary Clinton that way, we all objected. Democrats and Republicans
are life. Why is it different when Mueller goes after
people who have not been charged and sets out non
criminal conduct that he disagrees with. That's not the proper
function of If Muller could not prove an obstruction crime,
and he could not, then he should have simply stated
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that he wasn't recommending any charges. Anything other than that
is blatantly unfair. I agree, I agree, And let me
let me ask you, this is Trump clear when it's
done to Trump? Is Trump right not to cooperate any further?
Considering there's been four separate conclusions and investigations on this, well,
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you know he has to listen to his lawyer on this.
I think that he would. I would certainly advise them
not to testify. My advice to him wasn't don't pardon,
don't fire, don't testify, and don't tweet. He listened to
three of them, but not the fourth. But right now
I would say it depends. If you think the investigations
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by Congress are improperly motivated and don't have a legitimate
legislative purpose, you have no obligation not to raise your
constitutional privileges. And remember, executive privilege is designed to protect
all Americans, not just the president. It's designed to protect
the president c from improper intrusion by the legislative or
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the judicial branch. And so it's there as part of
our separation of powers and checks and balances to protect
all Americans. He's not just doing it in a self
serving way. Nadaler is now taking the position, Well, you've
waived the privilege because McGann and spoke with a special counsel,
no as special counsel, as an employee of the Department
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of Justice. So you've got one branch of the Department
of Justice, White House counsel talking to another branch of
the executive So it's not a waiver of a privilege
at all. You can actually never waive executive privilege. It's
been invoked by almost every president. The first was George Washington,
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who invoked it. All right, when we get back, I
want both of you to debate the question as to
what we do with a Hillary Clinton question and how
far back who needs to be held accountable? Right as
we were all along, Alan Dershwitz, Greg Jarrett with us,
all right, what are your thoughts on the president challenging
these a penis Who's going to win this battle? Greg Jarrett? Well,
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I think the president will because it does appear that
this is nothing more than presidential harassment. You know, there
has to be a reasonable basis for this. That is
to say, there has to be some sort of articulable
factual basis for the investigation that indicates that a crime
has or will take place. Well, there's none of that here.
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This is a fishing expedition, a safari to search for
anything under any rock they can find to damage Trump.
I think the President has a solid legal basis to
oppose it. What do you think, Alan Durshoy I have
a slightly different view. I think that if subpoenas come
from the legislative branch, they don't have to be looking
(25:36):
for crime. They can be looking for information relevant to
their appropriate role of legislating and oversight. But there comes
a time, and it happened during the McCarthy era, when
the Supreme Court or other courts will look at subpoenas
and look at request for testimony and say, enough's enough.
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You've now exceeded your legitimate authority and you're just doing
this to harass or expose. Well, are we there aper
function of Congress? I think, don't you think we're at
a point? Professor? Come on, well, no, that's the point.
And I think the courts will look at it on
a case by case basis. They're not going to just
say willie nilly that no subpoenas will be enforced. They'll
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look at every subpoena, they'll look at whether there's an
articular basis for any legitimate legislative purpose, and I think
they will begin to refuse to enforce some of them,
as they did during the McCarthy period. But what about
all these what about all these one what about all
these people that are going to be called back again?
They can't afford these lawyers that are very expensive. Listen, professor,
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what do you charge an hour? A lot? You know,
you don't want to know. Half of my cases a
pro bonal. The half are pretty expensive because I do
represent a lot of very wealthy people, and even if
you're wealthy, getting these subpoenas can really really be very expensive.
Washington lawyers do charge in excess of a thousand dollars
an hour, and the hours accumulate because you have to
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do the research, you have to check out all the facts.
And so we're talking easily about six figure legal bills
that can sometimes get up to the seven figures. Yeah, Greg, Yeah,
I mean look at people like Jerome. Course, he was
never charged with anything, he was threatened. They tried to
pressure and extort him into signing a false statement implicating Trump,
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which would have been a lie. You know, that's the
equivalent of attempting to suborn perjury. He had to hire
a team of lawyers to represent him, you know, and
his bank account is empty as a results. Look at
General Flint wrong, You have both mccabegging. He doesn't need
a lawyer. Then call me bragging, hau. I wouldn't do
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this in the Obama Bush administrations, top two FBI guys,
this setting him up, I mean, professor, and then he
loses his house. Now he's millions of dollars in debt.
They threatened to go after his kid. This is how
we treat thirty three year veterans that put their lives
in harm's way. Look, it's a terrible, terrible thing, and
it's been a terrible thing for many years that prosecutors
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do abuse their authority. You know, the idea of arresting
people at gunpoint, whether it be somebody who is like
a stone or somebody who is Felicity Huffman, whatever you
think of them, you don't have to arrest people at
gunpoint and threaten them and show how powerful and strong
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you are. And you don't have to I got a
run into them. You can write them a nice letter
saying if you have any information, please provide it, but
you know it turns to harassment at some point. And
all right, I gotta let you both go. Thank you,
Professor Dershowitz, Thank you, Greg Jared, all right, glad you
with us. Happy Friday, Happy Passover, Happy Good Friday, Holy Saturday,
(28:49):
and Happy Easter Sunday. We have so much, all of
us to be thankful for the greatest, freest, best country
God has ever given man, a country that has accumulated
more power than in any other country in the history
of mankind, and abused it less and advanced the human
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condition all over the world more the United States of America.
There's one blessing. That's why all of this that we've
been dealing with, all that is about to come, is
so important when it's never been a perfect country known.
But in their wisdom, our framers, our founders, they created
a system of governance. And remember, government in its best
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state is but a necessary evil, and its worst state
an intolerable one. That was Thomas Paine. He also said,
where the guides and dictates of conscience irresistibly obeyed conscience
meaning defined as God telling us right and wrong in
our hearts, and we all are failures in that respect,
there would be no need for government. But that not
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being the case. We've got the best system and it
keeps getting threatened by very powerful people. That's what this
is all about. Forget listen. People have been writing me
telling me, you know a lot of things, some favorable too.
I mean, thank you for staying on this for two years.
Thank you for the team that you put together that
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have have That is maybe twenty five thirty of us,
including my TV and radio staff that you know radio
more than TV, the names that we talk about every day,
and the ones that jump in and interrupt me all
the time here on my own show and don't even
ask permission to put on the mic every once in
a while. But I'm just teasing. But there's maybe twenty
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five or thirty of us. The rest of the corrupt media,
they were in unison and what is the biggest lie
ever told? Group think lie And it was a coordination
with a Democratic party apparatus will or apparatchek, whatever you prefer,
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and a media that is compliant and in unison with
their message and has a political agenda and they share
one common trait, a psychotic rage and hatred of all
things Donald Trump. That means Donald Trump, all his family,
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all that he stands for, anybody that likes him. Remember,
we're the smelly Walmart people, those of us that like Trump.
We're the ones that are I can smell them the
Walmart to get smelly Walmart Trump voters. We are in
their private moments, we're looked down on. You know, the
people who are the people that really make this country great,
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it's we the people. It doesn't matter what you do
for a living. Everybody I know gets up out of bed.
They serve other people, you know, and in the process
they get to make some money so that they can
buy a house in a car and or get an
apartment or whatever you're doing. You know, every business is
either you're producing goods of services for other people. Like
(32:10):
a mailman. A mailman. I love my mailman, I love
my UPS driver. I get to I love my FedEx driver.
I get to know these guys. They're great guys, and
every day they got to work their ass off. They're
like being monitored and GPS around their route every day,
and god forbid, they stopped for lunch ten seconds longer
than they should. They're getting trouble. It's ridiculous. And all
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you know, if you go to a restaurant, think of
all the people that are behind the scenes to get
that meal to you and your family or friends or
wherever you happen to be hanging out with. I mean, first,
you got you know, you got the cooks, you got
the waiter, you got the bus boys, you got the bartenders,
you got you know, all these people serving you. But
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then you hopefully leave them a good tip and they
get they get paid for what they do, and you
have a great meal and you have a good time,
and the good restaurants will stay in business and the
bad ones will go out of business. And but that
that's what life is. And it's just when you see
that ninety nine point nine nine percent of the media
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went hawk Lyne and sink her into lying daily with
anonymous sources, breathless hysteria, hyper ventilating fake news, conspiracy TV,
and the noise continues. It's not like they're going out
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there today or yesterday and saying, wow, every time we
said Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Trump, Russia, Russia, Trump, Trump, Trump, collusion, collusion, collusion.
You know, you might think at some point they say, um,
oh we might have gotten us all wrong. We might
uh well, uh, let's talk about the steal dossier. You know,
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what they have done here is irreparable harm to the
country and to themselves. Their inability to retract, to apologize,
to their inability of any self reflection or introspection. You know,
I was raised Catholics. I was talking about I feel
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guilty over everything. I have bad thoughts, I feel guilty,
and you know, it's it's just one of those things.
But I've never looked at that guilt as necessarily a
bad thing, because often it informs me that maybe I'm wrong.
The hardest words for people to say is I'm wrong.
I'm sorry, And that's a big part of life. But
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we're imperfect people, that's just who we are. But you know,
we have major components here because what happened puts this
great democratic republic, this constitutional republic, in jeopardy. These are
not words that I came up with for the sake
of speaking them. When we talk about a dual justice system,
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an equal justice under the law, an equal application of
our laws. If you really want to sum it up
into different phases. You know, you have one phase where
you have a favored candidate that committed felonies, violated the
Espionage Act. There's no debate any longer. The evidence is there, overwhelming, incontrovertible,
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irrefutable evidence that Hillary Clinton and top seeker classified information
on a private email server likely hacked by six foreign
intelligence services. But that's a different story. That probably one
of them Russia, probably another one North Korea, probably another one, China,
probably another one Japan, and god knows how many others.
That's why you don't put it there. And then you know,
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you had a group of people that favored her. Even
the person interviewing her thinks that she should win one
hundred million zero and said so, and still got the
interviews and was writing her exoneration in May of twenty
sixteen before the interview of her and seventeen other key witnesses,
and actually allowed in the interview Hillary to bring to
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other people in You think that would be afforded to
General Flynn, who both McCabe and Coby bragged about setting
up the deputy FBI director. I told him he doesn't
need a lawyer and callby saying, oh, sure. I wouldn't
do this in the Obama administration or the Bush administrators.
I took full advantage of the chaos on day four
the Trump administration. Okay, that's how we treat thirty three
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year veterans to our country, and then and then create
a perjury trap. And then even after they find out
the FBI still didn't think he lied, but because he
has no more money, because he worked in the for
the military, not in the private sector where we'd make
a lot more money, then they're like throwing the book. Well,
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either you signed us that you lied to the FBI,
or and you cooperate with us so we can put
the screws to you so that you'll sing or compose,
or we're gonna have you were in business with your son.
We're gonna begin our investigation into your family. What father
and husband's not gonna say, screw it, just dive on
the sword. I'll go to jail. I'm not going to
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let that happen to my family. And now he's millions
of dollars in debt and he's still facing sentencing. But
the three components are what they are. You've got a
rigged investigation by biased people that abuse their power. And
then you've got everybody knew bruce Or testified to it
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in August to twenty sixteen, including the pit bull of
Robert Muller's team. They knew that, in fact, Hillary bought
the irony of all ironies, bought and paid for a
Russiana with money she funneled from a law firm to
an op research firm to hire a foreign national who's
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not supposed to influence our elections. That that foreign national
we knew. In August the twenty sixteen, according to bruce
Or hated Trump had an agenda. Hillary bought and paid
for it the opposition party, and it can't be verified
because even its own author, under oath, in an interrogatory said,
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I have no idea if it's true. So you rig
Hillary's investigation. She gets to remain in the race, the
favored candidate over the you know, the candidate that should
lose one hundred million to zero. That is a loathsome
human being. According to Struck in page please tell me
he's not gonna win, and then well, if he does,
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we have an insurance policy. Then we have the outright
spying of the Trump campaign. Stefan Helper is tasked to
spy on Carter Page, Popadopoulos and also Sam Clovis. Then
they lie to a fires of court. They didn't tell
the fires a court Christopher Steele hates Trump. They didn't
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tell the fires of court Hillary paid for it. They
just had an astro saying might have slight political team.
That's not that's not being that's that's lying by omission
to a court. That is an outright fraud to a court.
They didn't tell the court that it was unverified. We
now know it's unverifiable. Even Steele doesn't believe in his
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own dossier. And then they used that to spy. Once
you got into Carter Pages old emails, you were in
the whole. You were in the hole. You were in
all of Trump world at that point. And then that
information from that phony dossier was leaked. Harry Reid got
some let's see Michael Izikoff, David Korne the Washington Post.
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Well where did they get the dossier information from? When?
Why was it disseminated? Well, oh, they got it from
the deep state. We believe probably Clapper or Brennan, maybe
Brennan more than Clapper. And it needs to be investigated.
And they wrote about it Hooker's Ritz, Carlton Moscow p
and on Donald Trump's bed. Not true, but people heard it.
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It went pretty viral before the election. Why to impact
the election, and then it's used to influence the election,
and then lo and behold they lose anything that was
nobody expected that part. And then when they lose, well
that's all right because now they've got the insurance policy.
James Comey signed that first FISA application that was a
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fraud before the court in October of twenty sixteen, before
the election, and he heads on up to Trump Tower
when it's President elect Trump and pulls him aside and says, yeah,
just so you know, there's a stasier out there. It's salacious,
but it's not verified. Well that's not what he was
saying to the FISA court three months prior. So either
helied in October twenty sixteen, who was lying in January
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twenty seventeen, and then the whole lead up. We have
three invest foreign investigations, no collusion. You know, how many
more times do I need to read from the Mueller
report before it is etched in the brain of these
fake news, lying conspiracy theorists in the media that the
investigation did not establish members of the Trump campaign conspired
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or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.
And they every time they said it, they were lying
every anonymous source. They were breathlessly, you know, hyperventilating on
the air, breathlessly reporting fake news, lies, conspiracies, and no reflection. Today,
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later on we have Heraldo on. Well, we also have
Sidney Powell, Peter Schweitzer, John Solomon's got a lot of
news of what's coming. We're gonna get into that too.
Horaldo wonders if if there's any Democratic candidate that's going
to apologize. The answers, No, Horaldo, we'll have you on
in a little bit to talk about it. It's not
gonna happen. All right. Let me tell you about blinds
dot com. We have a lot to get to today,
(42:14):
Happy Friday, and all they're gonna say to you one
last thing before we go to break. Don't listen to
the noise anymore. They're just doubling down on stupid. They
have forever been exposed for who they are, and they
are about to be hit with the biggest avalanche tsunami
of truth that proves that they are liars and have
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been from the beginning, and conspiracy theorists that nobody will
ever trust them again, nor should they. There's a reason
why we've been right and they've been wrong, and I'm
not taking the credit. So an ensemblecast of very brave
people that we've all worked really hard to get to
truth and we got there. And believe me, you think
(42:59):
a lot of these people like us, No, they want us,
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