January 8, 2025 • 32 mins
Caitlyn Jenner stops by the show to give an account of the devastating fires in Los Angeles plus reacts to the possibility of a Kamala Harris run for Governor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, thank you Scott Shannon, Thanks to all of
you for being with us. Right down are toll free
number it is eight hundred and ninety four to one. Sean,
if you want to be a part of the program,
let me start, because we're going to talk a little
bit about the poor forest management in California and how
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preventable these wildfires are out there if only common sense
measures were adopted. But that does not negate the human
toll that has gone on out there. It is one
of the saddest things. And I've had this happen to
friends of mine, and I'm sure most of you have too.
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If somebody works so hard their entire life, they have
a dream, they want a house for themselves and their family.
It is so built into the American psyche that that
is a huge achievement in one's life to be able
to get their own home, and it means so much
to everybody and all the family memories that are in there,
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et cetera. And you're watching hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
of homes burned down. I don't want to forget the
human component of all of this, and let the people
of California that are living through this know that our thoughts,
our prayers, our love are all sent to all of you.
I'm sure it's not exactly heartwarming to hear that, Well,
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you'll be able to rebuild blah blah. It just it is.
It will upturn turn up your life. It will just
change things around. The entire trajectory of your life now
is in a whole different direction. There is so much
that we're learning that to me is infuriating and just
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angers me. I saw Joe Biden out there with Gavin Newsom.
Gavin Newsom probably as big as Booster in the entire country,
and he's stuck with him to the end. And it's
nice that Joe went out there. It's appropriate that he
went out there. Where was Joe when Hurricane Helene destroyed
you know, parts of Georgia and especially the northwestern part
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and the mountain part of mountainous part of North Carolina.
I mean, they still have not caught up with helping
the people that desperately need help there. Where were they
in East Palestine after that train wreck happened. They were
nowhere to be found. Joe couldn't bother didn't take the
time to go out and meet with the people there.
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And you know, as.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We look at.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Some of the background here, you know there is something
called the science of forest management, and it is a science.
And interestingly, you can go back and one person that
predicted all of this. Let's go back to twenty eighteen
and this is Donald Trump, the President, with Gavin Newsom
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talking about forest management.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Listen, cleaned out and protected.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
We've got to take care of the floors, you know,
the floors of the forest very important. You look at
other countries where they do it differently, and it's a
whole different story. I was with the president of Finland
and he said, we have much different We're a forest nation.
He called it a forest nation, and they spent a
lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things
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and they don't have any problem. And when it is,
it's a very small problem. So I know everybody's looking
at that to that end and it's going to work out.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I mean, that was him in twenty eighteen, and just
four months ago, Donald Trump spoke about the need for
California to send more water. And this will become very
relevant in a minute when I tell you what's actually
going on out there to down downstate to prevent these fires. Now,
I lived in California for five years. Sound was an
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area of a very affluent area of Santa Barbara. I
went back there a couple of years after I had left,
and the whole the whole community was burned to the ground.
This has been happening now for decades. And we know
that they have these long droughts in California, and I
had been out in California. Desalinization was a big topic
of discussion because they needed fresh water.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Water was always a problem.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But this is Donald Trump talking about four months ago
the need for California to send more water downstate to
help prepare for firefighters. And I'll explain why this is
relevant in a second.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You have so much water, and all those fields that
are right now barren, The farmers would have all the
water they needed, and you could revert water up into
the hills where you have all the dead forests, where
the forests are so brittle, because no places like California.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I go to Austria. The head of Ostria.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Tells me, you know, we have trees that are much
more flammable than what you have in California. We never
have forest farest because they may maintain their forests, and
you have all that water that could be used to
water what they call waterflow where the you know, where
the land would be damp, and you'd stop many of
these horrible fires that are costing billions and billions of
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dollars by the federal government, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
So one thing I'm going to do for California. Vote
for me, California.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I'm going to give you safety, I'm going to give
you a great border, and I'm going to give you
more water than almost anybody has.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
They don't because of environmental extremism. They it is difficult,
if not impossible, and the state should be responsible for it.
They don't engage in controlled burns, you know, they don't
clear out the dry brush, which should be done regularly,
which is the kindling for fires such as what we're
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watching unfold in the Pacific Palisades and beyond a lot
of a lot of the state rules protecting endangered species,
you know, is is the rationale limiting the science of
forestry from being practiced out there, and the limiting the
amount of water that gets sent from northern California, which
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makes absolutely positively no sense, you know, it is it
is completely preventable if they put the time, energy, money,
and resources into it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
We now see bay.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Just think of what Donald Trump just said that there,
you know, scores of we're now finding out LA firefighters
that are at their wits end because they're finding all
of these broken fire hydrants that are preventing them from
doing their jobs, which they want to do, and they're
struggling to gain control of one of the worst wildfires
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in LA's history. And I just wonder how many brand
new fire hydrants could have been bought with the seventeen
million dollars that the Democratic Mayor Karen Bass cut from
the firefighting budget, because that's exactly what she did.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Just months go.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
LA Fire Department had their budget cut by a staggering
seventeen point six million dollars this financial year, according to records,
and this drastic decrease in funding for the fire department
was the second largest cut to come out of Los
Angeles and Mayor Karen Bass's fiscal budget, according to city figures.
And she initially even wanted to cut more money than that.
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And by the way, if you're wondering where the mayor
of Los Angeles is and all of this, well she's seven,
four hundred miles away in Africa on a political trip
as this, you know, Los Angeles is like in this
apocalyptic healthscape. Right now, there are people posting on X
from La saying resign while you're in Ghana. One person
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comedy anyway, she traveled with three other people to Ghana
for the inauguration of the president there was elected last year. Hey, Karen, quote,
how's Ghana? Another person asking La. You ask, Yeah, it's
burning to the effing ground. But it's better you're not
here anyways, because you're useless. Others demanding that she resigned
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from her post. You're a disgrace or and embarrassment. I mean,
there is no excuse. Why is she not on the
first plane home? As soon as this became a problem.
Now the problem even gets worse than that. Now, if
you're not going to practice you know, the science of forestry,
and you're not going to have hydrants that have water
in them, and you're not going to clear out the
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kindling and the brush because of environmental extremist agendas, and
you're not going to have controlled burns again another huge mistake.
Then you know this is entirely preventable and predictable what
is happening here. If you're going to put endangered species
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above the lives and the livelihoods and the homes of
the people in your state, you know you have to
ask why, why would you do that? And here's where
it even gets worse than that, because I don't know
if you've ever noticed. While Mayor Bass was busy cutting
off the fire Department's budget to the bone, he somehow
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did manage to find hundreds of millions of dollars for
green energy conversion for the Port of Los Angeles. This
ought to make everybody in the southland in LA pretty
pissed off. But here's the headline from a website, the
Port of Los Angeles website. Port of Los Angeles awarded
four hundred and twelve million dollars and a grant from
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the US EPA for zero emissions transfer, zero missions transformation.
Thank you EPA Administrator Michael Reagan for your support of
our vision a zero emissions future that Karen Bass. With
this funding, the nation's busiest port will be able to
continue to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, improve air quality. How's
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the air quality out there today? I don't think it's
doing too well in LA today. Together, in partnership with
the federal government, industry, labor, environmental justice groups, we are
building a greener, healthier LA. Doesn't look like it to me.
The port and its private, sectored partners will match the
EPA grant with an additional two hundred and thirty six
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million dollars, bringing the total new investment in zero missions
programs at the Port of Los Angeles to six hundred
and forty four million dollars, and provide fifty million dollars
for community LEDs zero missions Grant program workforce development and
related engagement activities. Well, I mean, I don't see anything
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in there about the money to fix the broken fire
hydrants and or any monies to hire the firefighters that
she laid off. But according to the press release, in
addition to the EPA grant, you know there were still
gazillions left over in her budget for green energy conversion.
In August, LA launched their first one percent electric full
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size street sweeper in the US. The city itself installed
nearly one hundred Level two chargers and twelve fast charges
for electric vehicles throughout the city. And meanwhile, they're not
taking care of the basic predictable safety needs of homeowners
in California. I'm going to tell you what this is
going to result in. It's going to result in more
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of a mass exist. I mean, the U Haul Index
came out and once again leading the way with the
lowest net population gain and people leaving the state is California.
Then you have South Carolina, Texas, Florida, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Once again.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You know, people are are just moving in droves. And
the same thing with New York. Kathy Holk wants to
run for a governor again. The one thing that would
help New York financially have this big congestion tax in
New York City. If you go in on the lower
level of the fifty ninth Street Bridge from Queens into Manhattan,
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you know it's going to be fifteen dollars on the
lower level because they'll force you onto First Avenue in
New York City. I know this may be a little technical,
but you will automatically be charged even if you're not
heading in that direction. I mean, that's how desperately they
want money, and they don't care about the poor and
the middle class and working men and women that are
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going to be paying the bills. They try to get
to work every day. But this, this is now, this,
this is what environmental environmental radicalism gets you. I'll never forget.
I went out to the San Joaquin Valley. I cover
this for fox and that you add. You know all
these you know, farms, massive farms that were bone dry,
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and there was all of this water that was available
to them, and it was not made available to farmers
because they wanted to protect what's called the delta smelt. Now,
the delta smelt, if you look it up and look
at a picture of it, it looks like a.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Little minnow fish.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's not even like an exotic fish, and by the way,
not even an endangered species. And they cared more about
the delta smelt than they did about the farmers. And
the farmers lost their entire livelihood because they chose a
minnow fish that was not even on the endangered species
list over the farmers, over the people that would benefit
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from the farming and the food that they would produce.
I mean, this is absolute madness. And then they wonder,
I wonder why people are leaving in Los Angeles and
New York and New Jersey and Illinois and droves. This
is why people have had it. They're waking up. They're done,
and you've destroyed your states. You know, law order, safety,
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security gone, massive taxes. You know, if you live in
New York City, in New York State, fourteen percent state
and city income acts. Same thing out in Los Angeles,
same thing in all of California. Illegal immigration, sanctuary state status,
you know, put the burden on taxpayers just basically just
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picked their pockets to the point where they're not going
to stay anymore and the quality of life has gone
to hell. I mean, defund is mantle, no bail laws,
sanctuary states, known terrorists, cartel members, gang members, murderers, rapists,
they just allow them into the country unvetted. January twentieth
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can't come fast enough. I actually can't believe what A
friend of mine that lives out in the area and
in California just sent me.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It is.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It reminds me of when I went to New Orleans
post Katrina, and it was like I remember driving for
miles and on either side everything was wiped out, Entire
neighborhoods of being wiped out. Caitlyn Jenner just texted me
and says, you have no idea how bad it is
out here. She's gonna call in after the news at
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the bottom of the hour and we'll get an update
from her. And our prayers are with the people of
California today. This is really bad, driving.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
The liberals nuts.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
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you listen to the experts, a lot of what is
happening with this wildfire in California could have been prevented.
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There's been decades of overgrowth in California forests. You know,
if you look at the liability laws around controlled burns,
they don't allow control burns. You can't remove brush. It's
all related to environmental radicalism and extremism. I mean, the
state itself should be involved in these controlled burns. They
should be involved in cleaning out the brush which is
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the kindling for these big fires and much of California.
If a landowner undertakes you know, a controlled burn on
their own property, they have to jump through a series
of hoops proving that they have the expertise to set
a controlled fire that will stay controlled. But this is
something that state ought to be doing. And the sad
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part is is now we're learning. Okay, well, the mayor
of Los Angeles cut the LA fire Fighter's budget by
a wopping what seventeen million dollars, and meanwhile they're spending
six hundred and forty four million to make the Port
of Los Angeles, converting that into you know, a green
energy hub, six hundred and forty four million dollars, and
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yet they're cutting back on firefighters. Then firefighters, you know,
they're at their wits end fighting trying to fight this
fire that they're willing to put their lives at risk,
but they're finding all these broken fire hydrants. Donald Trump
warned about it in twenty eighteen, said you better get
the water from the north in northern California down to
the south, because you're going to need it. And he
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turned out to be more than right. All the state
rules protecting quote endangered species. I mentioned the delta smelt
that prevented farmers from being able to farm in the
San Joaquin Valley. And this is all madness anyway. A
friend of mine just sent me a video. I mean
it went on for blocks and blocks and blocks of
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homes just burn to the ground. These are people's lives,
you know, being upended in ways you can't even imagine,
you know, whenever there's a tragedy like this. Now, I'm
glad to see Joe Biden went out there today, especially
since he never showed up to East Palestine after that
that train derailment, that disaster there. Never showed up after
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Hurricane Helene in North Carolina. And if it wasn't for
neighbor helping neighbor and Samaritan's Purse and Operation Heilo, you know,
those people and Elon Musk providing communications they would be
they'd be out of luck anyway. Caitlin Jenner is with US,
lives in southern California, is very aware of the dangers
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of fires out there. This is something you talked about
when you made your run for governor back in the day.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Boy, I certainly did. That was like number one on
my list of things to do, because fighting fires has
to be offensive and removing brush, like you said earlier,
in the forest, taking fuel away. I live in Malibu, California.
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The wolveyfire came right through my house and I stayed
with the house and it made it because there was
no fuel close to the house. And we just need
to do more of that, no more in preparation. What's
happening here in Los Angeles actually today the winds are
so hard. Last night they were between eighty and ninety
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miles an hour at my house. I live on the
mountain in Malibu.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And the way for those two people that don't know,
they're called Santa Ana winds, and they come by periodically
and the winds are fierce, and if it happens while
in the middle of a fire like this, it is
devastating because it literally moves the embers miles away in
many cases and creates new fires.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Absolutely. And I live in a setting in a corridor,
so I mean every time my house gets hit this afternoon,
my roof blew off. Yeah, all the tar paper on
my roof. The second time it's happened, lifted right up
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off my house and was thrown all the way down
the mountain Riday at that repair. Fortunately, I'm at the
north end of Malibu, the south end of Malibu, and
you get down in the Pacific Palisades is just getting destroyed,
and you're right, it's about preparation. And Karen Bass isn't
even in town. You mentioned that she's off in Africa someplace.
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But you know who's been on the phone, you know,
all day long is Rick Caruso. Rick Cruso is the
one that ran against Karen Bess and the people of
California didn't put him in place. He's a very confident businessman,
really great guy, and he has a mall near where
the fire was and he goes running down there in
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the morning to make sure everything's going to be okay.
And they had no water in the fire hydrants.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I mean, you can't even make it up. And then
Gavin Newsom, God bless Gavin.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He had his emergency presser today thanking the mayor Karen
Bass who's in Ghana, who's in Africa, for her leadership
in all of this.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I mean, is this some kind of bad joke?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, it really is. And actually you said earlier you
were talking about Biden being here and going to Monica
to the firehouse and you know, doing all of that.
He was. It was like in Santa Monica. You know,
we went out to the desert to do that a
couple of days ago, you know, some national monument out there.
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And he came back here and he's in town. I
know because as you know, I'm a pilot, and they
had a TFR. It's a temporary flight restriction. Any place
the president goes and he stays someplace, there's a TFR,
a no fly zone over the area that he's at.
It's quite common, and there was a TFR here the
last couple of days because he was in town. So
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basically all he did today was, you know, go down
the street to the local fire station and do a
television appearance and then and then leave. That's the tight. God,
I can't wait till the twentieth of January.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, by the way, he did reveal that his son
Hunter and his wife may have lost their home during
this fire. They got notification yesterday their home was probably
burned to the ground. And by the way, the LA
Only Fire chief now has an estimate that a thousand
structures have been destroyed already, and they have zero percent
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of this fire under control as of you know, twenty
minutes ago. They don't have any of it under control,
and they don't have fire hydrants that work explain that.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
I know. Well, I keep my plane up at Tamoora
or Airport and that's the station where all of these
firefighting helicopters. They're based there, and unfortunately they've been on
the ground. Now, first I thought, are they on the
ground because where the fire is is underneath this TFR. Yeah,
for a flight restriction because Biden's there not letting helicopters
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go in there. I don't know. I hope that the
firefighters and the city of Los Angeles is smarter than
that and not to do something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And I'm well, they cut the firefighter budget by seventeen
million dollars just a couple of months ago, and the
fire hydrants don't work. So if you don't have firefighters
and you don't have water, tell me how you're going
to put out this firefight this massive fire.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Absolutely, Ben, I just want to know shown that that
beautiful home in Florida. Do you have a guest house.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
If you need one. I have a room if that's
what you need done. Not a problem.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
By the way, these fires have burned through five thousand,
four hundred acres. Now, is there any that you actually
can go to college and get a degree in forestry?
You can go to college and you can be an expert,
and there are known methods to prevent incidents like this
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from happening. That is what I find the most infuriating
to me is something like this that is preventable. Then
you got to look at the reasons, Well, why haven't
they implemented the science of forestry, And then you look
at the Endangered Endangered Species Act. Then you look at
that they don't want you to cut down a tree,
they don't want controlled burns, they don't want you know,
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it's going to impact the environment. What's the air like
out by you today?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Fortunately the wind is going out to sea, and so
at my house, I'm fine, but the air quality in
la is just it's horrible. The good thing is when
you talk about the you can watch the smoke clouds
going and all day this morning they were going straight
out to sea, meaning the wind is pushing them very
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fast and the winds are very high. I have had
noticed in the last hour or two the clouds are
going the wind are going much much higher, meaning the
winds are calming down and it's not pushing the smoke
out to sea quite as fast. So hopefully we're at
the other end of the Santanas right now. But they
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say there's going to be some not as difficult, not
as tough as we've had today through tomorrow, and then
hopefully we get through it. But I was looking at
the news out here and there was like funny homes
on the beach all gone on Malibu on the beach
on p twenty homes in a row all gone.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It's just unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
You think you have a place on the beach. You
know you're going to be okay because the fires are
up there in the map, but nope, Yeah, twenty homes
gone right on pieces.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Let me let me ask you, you said during a
previous fire you stayed. Now, had you taken measures to
clear any brush near around your home on your own?
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Oh? Absolutely, Sean, I'm a professional when it comes to
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I only all right.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
So my question is did you have to get permits
to do it or did you did you just say
I'm clearing out my property. I'm not going to make
it a fire hazard.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I'm not going to tell them I'm just clearing my property.
But if you try to move in a dirt on
your property, there's some flower and the guys tell me
go around your property and look for this flower, and
they gave me a picture of it. If you find
any of them, pull them out. So when they come
to look and say, oh I'm going to move this
duit from here to there, there's no one of these flowers.
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You'll never get to move it because it's an endangered
flower or something. All kinds of restrictions like that.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
So let me get this straight.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So, because you took proactive measures while other homes were
lost near you, your home remained intact, and you stayed
with your home even risk in your life. I mean,
I have a video of some guy. I don't put
it up on social media. I mean his house is
surrounded by flames, and he's like, I'm not leaving my house,
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and he's out there with like a fire hose trying
to fight back this fire, which I think is admirable.
But I'm not so sure that any house.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Is worth it.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I would agree around it's not certainly not worse in
your life. But I have a house that really when
it was built, I was built, I was the second owner,
was really built not to burn. There's metal doors, metal
window frames. The only thing I had was wooden garage doores.
But it's all about preparation. I have got some menu
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and give me seventy five foot of clearance, so there's
no grass or brush or anything within seventy five feet
of the house I live at on top of the hill.
I have my own water system, so I've got fire hoses.
I've got my own generator that so when the electricity goes,
because it will go off, you still have generators to
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run all the pumps and do everything. I got a
gas pump that will pump out of the pool and
take them just shoot the water all the way over
the house. I'm so scared. I got no mixing. I
used to raise cars I got no mixed suits, no
mixed suits, no mixed flock.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
You said, you sound like me. I'm like a crazy,
you know, prepper when I can be. I was even
crazy when I had a I had a big house.
I mean I had generators galore. I had four thousand
gallons of propane. Obviously, I'm a firearms enthusiast. I had
emergency food and water and supplies and medical supplies.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I have it all. I'm crazy.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
No, I don't have the food supplies, but I do
have I think my house is not going to burn.
It is. I will not let it burn.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
And because you're and you're being proactive, I mean you're
taking these necessary steps. Look for example, everything's changed in
Florida after that building in Miami collapsed. I mean, every
every single condo building in Florida has to be up
to code. And you have to be hurricane prepared, and
you need hurricane windows and doors and and I think
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it's just the right thing to do to prepare people
for a worst case scenario.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
But I you know, but here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
It doesn't matter how much homelessness doesn't matter, about quality
of life doesn't matter, how much crime doesn't matter how many,
how many.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Homes might burn to the ground.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
In the end, it's California will remain a left wing
radical haven. And I don't I don't see it ever
becoming conservative again. Do you I live about twenty seconds?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Yeah, now they've been I don't know, Sean. I look
at California now it's gotten a lot redder. Have you noticed?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I noticed, but not not read enough. I mean, I
would bet every penny I have. Your next governor is
going to be Kamala Harris, who, by the way, her
home is under an evacuation order.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Please, John, You're just ruined my days.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I'm just I'm just telling.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
You to my words.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
All right, Caitlin Jenner, Our prayers, in all seriousness are
with the people of California, regardless of the incompetence of government.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
They're losing.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know, their whole lives are being upended here and
lives are in jeopardy. Where their prayers are with us.
Thanks for checking in. We appreciate it. Eight hundred ninety
four one, Shawn, our number
All right, thank you Scott Shannon, Thanks to all of
you for being with us. Right down are toll free
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if you want to be a part of the program,
let me start, because we're going to talk a little
bit about the poor forest management in California and how
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preventable these wildfires are out there if only common sense
measures were adopted. But that does not negate the human
toll that has gone on out there. It is one
of the saddest things. And I've had this happen to
friends of mine, and I'm sure most of you have too.
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If somebody works so hard their entire life, they have
a dream, they want a house for themselves and their family.
It is so built into the American psyche that that
is a huge achievement in one's life to be able
to get their own home, and it means so much
to everybody and all the family memories that are in there,
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et cetera. And you're watching hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
of homes burned down. I don't want to forget the
human component of all of this, and let the people
of California that are living through this know that our thoughts,
our prayers, our love are all sent to all of you.
I'm sure it's not exactly heartwarming to hear that, Well,
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you'll be able to rebuild blah blah. It just it is.
It will upturn turn up your life. It will just
change things around. The entire trajectory of your life now
is in a whole different direction. There is so much
that we're learning that to me is infuriating and just
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angers me. I saw Joe Biden out there with Gavin Newsom.
Gavin Newsom probably as big as Booster in the entire country,
and he's stuck with him to the end. And it's
nice that Joe went out there. It's appropriate that he
went out there. Where was Joe when Hurricane Helene destroyed
you know, parts of Georgia and especially the northwestern part
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and the mountain part of mountainous part of North Carolina.
I mean, they still have not caught up with helping
the people that desperately need help there. Where were they
in East Palestine after that train wreck happened. They were
nowhere to be found. Joe couldn't bother didn't take the
time to go out and meet with the people there.
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And you know, as.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We look at.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Some of the background here, you know there is something
called the science of forest management, and it is a science.
And interestingly, you can go back and one person that
predicted all of this. Let's go back to twenty eighteen
and this is Donald Trump, the President, with Gavin Newsom
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talking about forest management.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Listen, cleaned out and protected.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
We've got to take care of the floors, you know,
the floors of the forest very important. You look at
other countries where they do it differently, and it's a
whole different story. I was with the president of Finland
and he said, we have much different We're a forest nation.
He called it a forest nation, and they spent a
lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things
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and they don't have any problem. And when it is,
it's a very small problem. So I know everybody's looking
at that to that end and it's going to work out.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I mean, that was him in twenty eighteen, and just
four months ago, Donald Trump spoke about the need for
California to send more water. And this will become very
relevant in a minute when I tell you what's actually
going on out there to down downstate to prevent these fires. Now,
I lived in California for five years. Sound was an
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area of a very affluent area of Santa Barbara. I
went back there a couple of years after I had left,
and the whole the whole community was burned to the ground.
This has been happening now for decades. And we know
that they have these long droughts in California, and I
had been out in California. Desalinization was a big topic
of discussion because they needed fresh water.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Water was always a problem.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But this is Donald Trump talking about four months ago
the need for California to send more water downstate to
help prepare for firefighters. And I'll explain why this is
relevant in a second.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You have so much water, and all those fields that
are right now barren, The farmers would have all the
water they needed, and you could revert water up into
the hills where you have all the dead forests, where
the forests are so brittle, because no places like California.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I go to Austria. The head of Ostria.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Tells me, you know, we have trees that are much
more flammable than what you have in California. We never
have forest farest because they may maintain their forests, and
you have all that water that could be used to
water what they call waterflow where the you know, where
the land would be damp, and you'd stop many of
these horrible fires that are costing billions and billions of
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dollars by the federal government, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
So one thing I'm going to do for California. Vote
for me, California.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I'm going to give you safety, I'm going to give
you a great border, and I'm going to give you
more water than almost anybody has.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
They don't because of environmental extremism. They it is difficult,
if not impossible, and the state should be responsible for it.
They don't engage in controlled burns, you know, they don't
clear out the dry brush, which should be done regularly,
which is the kindling for fires such as what we're
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watching unfold in the Pacific Palisades and beyond a lot
of a lot of the state rules protecting endangered species,
you know, is is the rationale limiting the science of
forestry from being practiced out there, and the limiting the
amount of water that gets sent from northern California, which
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makes absolutely positively no sense, you know, it is it
is completely preventable if they put the time, energy, money,
and resources into it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
We now see bay.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Just think of what Donald Trump just said that there,
you know, scores of we're now finding out LA firefighters
that are at their wits end because they're finding all
of these broken fire hydrants that are preventing them from
doing their jobs, which they want to do, and they're
struggling to gain control of one of the worst wildfires
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in LA's history. And I just wonder how many brand
new fire hydrants could have been bought with the seventeen
million dollars that the Democratic Mayor Karen Bass cut from
the firefighting budget, because that's exactly what she did.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Just months go.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
LA Fire Department had their budget cut by a staggering
seventeen point six million dollars this financial year, according to records,
and this drastic decrease in funding for the fire department
was the second largest cut to come out of Los
Angeles and Mayor Karen Bass's fiscal budget, according to city figures.
And she initially even wanted to cut more money than that.
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And by the way, if you're wondering where the mayor
of Los Angeles is and all of this, well she's seven,
four hundred miles away in Africa on a political trip
as this, you know, Los Angeles is like in this
apocalyptic healthscape. Right now, there are people posting on X
from La saying resign while you're in Ghana. One person
(07:46):
comedy anyway, she traveled with three other people to Ghana
for the inauguration of the president there was elected last year. Hey, Karen, quote,
how's Ghana? Another person asking La. You ask, Yeah, it's
burning to the effing ground. But it's better you're not
here anyways, because you're useless. Others demanding that she resigned
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from her post. You're a disgrace or and embarrassment. I mean,
there is no excuse. Why is she not on the
first plane home? As soon as this became a problem.
Now the problem even gets worse than that. Now, if
you're not going to practice you know, the science of forestry,
and you're not going to have hydrants that have water
in them, and you're not going to clear out the
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kindling and the brush because of environmental extremist agendas, and
you're not going to have controlled burns again another huge mistake.
Then you know this is entirely preventable and predictable what
is happening here. If you're going to put endangered species
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above the lives and the livelihoods and the homes of
the people in your state, you know you have to
ask why, why would you do that? And here's where
it even gets worse than that, because I don't know
if you've ever noticed. While Mayor Bass was busy cutting
off the fire Department's budget to the bone, he somehow
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did manage to find hundreds of millions of dollars for
green energy conversion for the Port of Los Angeles. This
ought to make everybody in the southland in LA pretty
pissed off. But here's the headline from a website, the
Port of Los Angeles website. Port of Los Angeles awarded
four hundred and twelve million dollars and a grant from
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the US EPA for zero emissions transfer, zero missions transformation.
Thank you EPA Administrator Michael Reagan for your support of
our vision a zero emissions future that Karen Bass. With
this funding, the nation's busiest port will be able to
continue to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, improve air quality. How's
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the air quality out there today? I don't think it's
doing too well in LA today. Together, in partnership with
the federal government, industry, labor, environmental justice groups, we are
building a greener, healthier LA. Doesn't look like it to me.
The port and its private, sectored partners will match the
EPA grant with an additional two hundred and thirty six
(10:16):
million dollars, bringing the total new investment in zero missions
programs at the Port of Los Angeles to six hundred
and forty four million dollars, and provide fifty million dollars
for community LEDs zero missions Grant program workforce development and
related engagement activities. Well, I mean, I don't see anything
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in there about the money to fix the broken fire
hydrants and or any monies to hire the firefighters that
she laid off. But according to the press release, in
addition to the EPA grant, you know there were still
gazillions left over in her budget for green energy conversion.
In August, LA launched their first one percent electric full
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size street sweeper in the US. The city itself installed
nearly one hundred Level two chargers and twelve fast charges
for electric vehicles throughout the city. And meanwhile, they're not
taking care of the basic predictable safety needs of homeowners
in California. I'm going to tell you what this is
going to result in. It's going to result in more
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of a mass exist. I mean, the U Haul Index
came out and once again leading the way with the
lowest net population gain and people leaving the state is California.
Then you have South Carolina, Texas, Florida, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Once again.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You know, people are are just moving in droves. And
the same thing with New York. Kathy Holk wants to
run for a governor again. The one thing that would
help New York financially have this big congestion tax in
New York City. If you go in on the lower
level of the fifty ninth Street Bridge from Queens into Manhattan,
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you know it's going to be fifteen dollars on the
lower level because they'll force you onto First Avenue in
New York City. I know this may be a little technical,
but you will automatically be charged even if you're not
heading in that direction. I mean, that's how desperately they
want money, and they don't care about the poor and
the middle class and working men and women that are
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going to be paying the bills. They try to get
to work every day. But this, this is now, this,
this is what environmental environmental radicalism gets you. I'll never forget.
I went out to the San Joaquin Valley. I cover
this for fox and that you add. You know all
these you know, farms, massive farms that were bone dry,
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and there was all of this water that was available
to them, and it was not made available to farmers
because they wanted to protect what's called the delta smelt. Now,
the delta smelt, if you look it up and look
at a picture of it, it looks like a.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Little minnow fish.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's not even like an exotic fish, and by the way,
not even an endangered species. And they cared more about
the delta smelt than they did about the farmers. And
the farmers lost their entire livelihood because they chose a
minnow fish that was not even on the endangered species
list over the farmers, over the people that would benefit
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from the farming and the food that they would produce.
I mean, this is absolute madness. And then they wonder,
I wonder why people are leaving in Los Angeles and
New York and New Jersey and Illinois and droves. This
is why people have had it. They're waking up. They're done,
and you've destroyed your states. You know, law order, safety,
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security gone, massive taxes. You know, if you live in
New York City, in New York State, fourteen percent state
and city income acts. Same thing out in Los Angeles,
same thing in all of California. Illegal immigration, sanctuary state status,
you know, put the burden on taxpayers just basically just
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picked their pockets to the point where they're not going
to stay anymore and the quality of life has gone
to hell. I mean, defund is mantle, no bail laws,
sanctuary states, known terrorists, cartel members, gang members, murderers, rapists,
they just allow them into the country unvetted. January twentieth
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can't come fast enough. I actually can't believe what A
friend of mine that lives out in the area and
in California just sent me.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It is.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It reminds me of when I went to New Orleans
post Katrina, and it was like I remember driving for
miles and on either side everything was wiped out, Entire
neighborhoods of being wiped out. Caitlyn Jenner just texted me
and says, you have no idea how bad it is
out here. She's gonna call in after the news at
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the bottom of the hour and we'll get an update
from her. And our prayers are with the people of
California today. This is really bad, driving.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
The liberals nuts.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
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it's pretty unbelievable that if you listen to the if
you listen to the experts, a lot of what is
happening with this wildfire in California could have been prevented.
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There's been decades of overgrowth in California forests. You know,
if you look at the liability laws around controlled burns,
they don't allow control burns. You can't remove brush. It's
all related to environmental radicalism and extremism. I mean, the
state itself should be involved in these controlled burns. They
should be involved in cleaning out the brush which is
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the kindling for these big fires and much of California.
If a landowner undertakes you know, a controlled burn on
their own property, they have to jump through a series
of hoops proving that they have the expertise to set
a controlled fire that will stay controlled. But this is
something that state ought to be doing. And the sad
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part is is now we're learning. Okay, well, the mayor
of Los Angeles cut the LA fire Fighter's budget by
a wopping what seventeen million dollars, and meanwhile they're spending
six hundred and forty four million to make the Port
of Los Angeles, converting that into you know, a green
energy hub, six hundred and forty four million dollars, and
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yet they're cutting back on firefighters. Then firefighters, you know,
they're at their wits end fighting trying to fight this
fire that they're willing to put their lives at risk,
but they're finding all these broken fire hydrants. Donald Trump
warned about it in twenty eighteen, said you better get
the water from the north in northern California down to
the south, because you're going to need it. And he
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turned out to be more than right. All the state
rules protecting quote endangered species. I mentioned the delta smelt
that prevented farmers from being able to farm in the
San Joaquin Valley. And this is all madness anyway. A
friend of mine just sent me a video. I mean
it went on for blocks and blocks and blocks of
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homes just burn to the ground. These are people's lives,
you know, being upended in ways you can't even imagine,
you know, whenever there's a tragedy like this. Now, I'm
glad to see Joe Biden went out there today, especially
since he never showed up to East Palestine after that
that train derailment, that disaster there. Never showed up after
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Hurricane Helene in North Carolina. And if it wasn't for
neighbor helping neighbor and Samaritan's Purse and Operation Heilo, you know,
those people and Elon Musk providing communications they would be
they'd be out of luck anyway. Caitlin Jenner is with US,
lives in southern California, is very aware of the dangers
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of fires out there. This is something you talked about
when you made your run for governor back in the day.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Boy, I certainly did. That was like number one on
my list of things to do, because fighting fires has
to be offensive and removing brush, like you said earlier,
in the forest, taking fuel away. I live in Malibu, California.
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The wolveyfire came right through my house and I stayed
with the house and it made it because there was
no fuel close to the house. And we just need
to do more of that, no more in preparation. What's
happening here in Los Angeles actually today the winds are
so hard. Last night they were between eighty and ninety
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miles an hour at my house. I live on the
mountain in Malibu.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And the way for those two people that don't know,
they're called Santa Ana winds, and they come by periodically
and the winds are fierce, and if it happens while
in the middle of a fire like this, it is
devastating because it literally moves the embers miles away in
many cases and creates new fires.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Absolutely. And I live in a setting in a corridor,
so I mean every time my house gets hit this afternoon,
my roof blew off. Yeah, all the tar paper on
my roof. The second time it's happened, lifted right up
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off my house and was thrown all the way down
the mountain Riday at that repair. Fortunately, I'm at the
north end of Malibu, the south end of Malibu, and
you get down in the Pacific Palisades is just getting destroyed,
and you're right, it's about preparation. And Karen Bass isn't
even in town. You mentioned that she's off in Africa someplace.
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But you know who's been on the phone, you know,
all day long is Rick Caruso. Rick Cruso is the
one that ran against Karen Bess and the people of
California didn't put him in place. He's a very confident businessman,
really great guy, and he has a mall near where
the fire was and he goes running down there in
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the morning to make sure everything's going to be okay.
And they had no water in the fire hydrants.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I mean, you can't even make it up. And then
Gavin Newsom, God bless Gavin.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He had his emergency presser today thanking the mayor Karen
Bass who's in Ghana, who's in Africa, for her leadership
in all of this.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I mean, is this some kind of bad joke?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, it really is. And actually you said earlier you
were talking about Biden being here and going to Monica
to the firehouse and you know, doing all of that.
He was. It was like in Santa Monica. You know,
we went out to the desert to do that a
couple of days ago, you know, some national monument out there.
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And he came back here and he's in town. I
know because as you know, I'm a pilot, and they
had a TFR. It's a temporary flight restriction. Any place
the president goes and he stays someplace, there's a TFR,
a no fly zone over the area that he's at.
It's quite common, and there was a TFR here the
last couple of days because he was in town. So
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basically all he did today was, you know, go down
the street to the local fire station and do a
television appearance and then and then leave. That's the tight. God,
I can't wait till the twentieth of January.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, by the way, he did reveal that his son
Hunter and his wife may have lost their home during
this fire. They got notification yesterday their home was probably
burned to the ground. And by the way, the LA
Only Fire chief now has an estimate that a thousand
structures have been destroyed already, and they have zero percent
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of this fire under control as of you know, twenty
minutes ago. They don't have any of it under control,
and they don't have fire hydrants that work explain that.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
I know. Well, I keep my plane up at Tamoora
or Airport and that's the station where all of these
firefighting helicopters. They're based there, and unfortunately they've been on
the ground. Now, first I thought, are they on the
ground because where the fire is is underneath this TFR. Yeah,
for a flight restriction because Biden's there not letting helicopters
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go in there. I don't know. I hope that the
firefighters and the city of Los Angeles is smarter than
that and not to do something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And I'm well, they cut the firefighter budget by seventeen
million dollars just a couple of months ago, and the
fire hydrants don't work. So if you don't have firefighters
and you don't have water, tell me how you're going
to put out this firefight this massive fire.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Absolutely, Ben, I just want to know shown that that
beautiful home in Florida. Do you have a guest house.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
If you need one. I have a room if that's
what you need done. Not a problem.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
By the way, these fires have burned through five thousand,
four hundred acres. Now, is there any that you actually
can go to college and get a degree in forestry?
You can go to college and you can be an expert,
and there are known methods to prevent incidents like this
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from happening. That is what I find the most infuriating
to me is something like this that is preventable. Then
you got to look at the reasons, Well, why haven't
they implemented the science of forestry, And then you look
at the Endangered Endangered Species Act. Then you look at
that they don't want you to cut down a tree,
they don't want controlled burns, they don't want you know,
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it's going to impact the environment. What's the air like
out by you today?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Fortunately the wind is going out to sea, and so
at my house, I'm fine, but the air quality in
la is just it's horrible. The good thing is when
you talk about the you can watch the smoke clouds
going and all day this morning they were going straight
out to sea, meaning the wind is pushing them very
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fast and the winds are very high. I have had
noticed in the last hour or two the clouds are
going the wind are going much much higher, meaning the
winds are calming down and it's not pushing the smoke
out to sea quite as fast. So hopefully we're at
the other end of the Santanas right now. But they
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say there's going to be some not as difficult, not
as tough as we've had today through tomorrow, and then
hopefully we get through it. But I was looking at
the news out here and there was like funny homes
on the beach all gone on Malibu on the beach
on p twenty homes in a row all gone.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It's just unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
You think you have a place on the beach. You
know you're going to be okay because the fires are
up there in the map, but nope, Yeah, twenty homes
gone right on pieces.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Let me let me ask you, you said during a
previous fire you stayed. Now, had you taken measures to
clear any brush near around your home on your own?
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Oh? Absolutely, Sean, I'm a professional when it comes to
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I only all right.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
So my question is did you have to get permits
to do it or did you did you just say
I'm clearing out my property. I'm not going to make
it a fire hazard.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I'm not going to tell them I'm just clearing my property.
But if you try to move in a dirt on
your property, there's some flower and the guys tell me
go around your property and look for this flower, and
they gave me a picture of it. If you find
any of them, pull them out. So when they come
to look and say, oh I'm going to move this
duit from here to there, there's no one of these flowers.
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You'll never get to move it because it's an endangered
flower or something. All kinds of restrictions like that.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
So let me get this straight.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So, because you took proactive measures while other homes were
lost near you, your home remained intact, and you stayed
with your home even risk in your life. I mean,
I have a video of some guy. I don't put
it up on social media. I mean his house is
surrounded by flames, and he's like, I'm not leaving my house,
(28:43):
and he's out there with like a fire hose trying
to fight back this fire, which I think is admirable.
But I'm not so sure that any house.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Is worth it.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I would agree around it's not certainly not worse in
your life. But I have a house that really when
it was built, I was built, I was the second owner,
was really built not to burn. There's metal doors, metal
window frames. The only thing I had was wooden garage doores.
But it's all about preparation. I have got some menu
(29:15):
and give me seventy five foot of clearance, so there's
no grass or brush or anything within seventy five feet
of the house I live at on top of the hill.
I have my own water system, so I've got fire hoses.
I've got my own generator that so when the electricity goes,
because it will go off, you still have generators to
(29:36):
run all the pumps and do everything. I got a
gas pump that will pump out of the pool and
take them just shoot the water all the way over
the house. I'm so scared. I got no mixing. I
used to raise cars I got no mixed suits, no
mixed suits, no mixed flock.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
You said, you sound like me. I'm like a crazy,
you know, prepper when I can be. I was even
crazy when I had a I had a big house.
I mean I had generators galore. I had four thousand
gallons of propane. Obviously, I'm a firearms enthusiast. I had
emergency food and water and supplies and medical supplies.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I have it all. I'm crazy.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
No, I don't have the food supplies, but I do
have I think my house is not going to burn.
It is. I will not let it burn.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
And because you're and you're being proactive, I mean you're
taking these necessary steps. Look for example, everything's changed in
Florida after that building in Miami collapsed. I mean, every
every single condo building in Florida has to be up
to code. And you have to be hurricane prepared, and
you need hurricane windows and doors and and I think
(30:50):
it's just the right thing to do to prepare people
for a worst case scenario.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
But I you know, but here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
It doesn't matter how much homelessness doesn't matter, about quality
of life doesn't matter, how much crime doesn't matter how many,
how many.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Homes might burn to the ground.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
In the end, it's California will remain a left wing
radical haven. And I don't I don't see it ever
becoming conservative again. Do you I live about twenty seconds?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Yeah, now they've been I don't know, Sean. I look
at California now it's gotten a lot redder. Have you noticed?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I noticed, but not not read enough. I mean, I
would bet every penny I have. Your next governor is
going to be Kamala Harris, who, by the way, her
home is under an evacuation order.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Please, John, You're just ruined my days.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I'm just I'm just telling.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
You to my words.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
All right, Caitlin Jenner, Our prayers, in all seriousness are
with the people of California, regardless of the incompetence of government.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
They're losing.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know, their whole lives are being upended here and
lives are in jeopardy. Where their prayers are with us.
Thanks for checking in. We appreciate it. Eight hundred ninety
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