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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Sean Hennity Show on Greg Jarrett filling
in for Sean over the next three hours on the
Fox News legal analyst and a lawyer. You can follow
me on Twitter at Greg Jarrett. You can also read
my legal columns and other articles on my website, Thegreg
Jarrett dot Com. Listen to my podcast The Brief, And
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I'm also happy to report that I have a new
book coming out in just a few days. It's called
The Trial of the Century, the famous Scopes Monkey Trial.
It was a pivotal moment in American history when it
actually became a crime to teach evolution in public schools,
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and a young teacher was arrested and charged, and the
great Clarence Darrow his brilliant, devastating cross examination of fundamentalist
icon William Jennings Bryant was the climax of the trial,
described by The New York Times as quote the most
amazing court scene in Anglo Saxon history. Well, the stunning
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outcome dramatically shifted public opinion in America, and it's spelled
the beginning of the end for the kind of government
abuse and intrusion that our constitution forbids and the wonders
and benefits of science were untethered. Free speech rights were rescued,
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and generations of Americans became Clarence Darrow's beneficiaries. But it
also foreshadowed today's fraught culture wars. Our civil liberties again
are in jeopardy. So is history repeating itself. You can
actually find out in my new book, The Trial of
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the Century, available in bookstores nationwide beginning Tuesday. You can
order it right now. It's available off for pre sale
online usual websites Amazon dot com, Barnesannuble dot com, or
simply go to my website, Thegreg Jarrett dot com slash
book and you can buy a signed copy of the
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book courtesy of Premier Collectibles. You'll find that at the
top of my site. And I'll be talking more about
it on Tuesday with Sean when he returns, and that's
the day the book comes out. I'll be back here
on the Sean Hannity Show as his guest, But for
now I'm pleased to be here filling in for Sean.
He's enjoying some well deserved time off, and perhaps you
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are doing the same thing. Maybe you're heading out for
a long holiday weekend as part of Memorial Day, certainly
a very important day of remembrance of the brave souls
who died in service to this great country of ours.
Those immortal patriots fought for our freedom and to preserve
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our cherished rights. But you know, those rights seem to
be under increasing attack in America, often by corrupt actors
in government who were supposed to trust. But you know what,
maybe we shouldn't. This was no more apparent than when
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the long awaited Durham Report came out just recently. Have
you read it? If you haven't, I assure you it
shines a bright light on one of the most notorious
episodes in modern American history. The FBI willingly weaponized its
authority to take down a duly elected president. And if
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you read it, it's meticulous in detail. It's corroborated by documents,
thousands of them, and testimony from people who, under subpoena,
were forced to tell the truth. The Special Council reveals
how DI never had any plausible or credible evidence or
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verified intelligence when it wrongfully launched a damaging investigation of
Donald Trump. And indeed, the FBI knew from the outset
that it was all a premnicious lie, the collusion hoax,
invented by Hillary Clinton and her cronies. It was surely
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the dirtiest trick ever perpetrated in American politics, and in fact,
it triggered the greatest mass delusion in political history. I
penned two best selling books about it, The Russia Hoax
and witch Hunt, and everything I wrote in those books
and recounted here, by the way, with Sean on this
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program was confirmed and validated by the Durham Report, a
classic case of abusive power by unscrupulous public officials. James
Coumby and mckabe, Peterstruck, Kevin Klinsmith, the whole gang at
the FBI, And yes, I get it they were fired
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from their jobs, but it should have been more than that.
And the sad coda to the Durham Report is that
none of those people will ever be held accountable in
a court of law. That is the singular failure of
the Special Council. But you know what, it's no wonder.
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Corruption in Washington is endemic. It's ingrained. We see it
in the current Department of Justice, where the Attorney General
Merrick Garland is running quite clearly a protection racket for
the Biden family criminal enterprises. Think about this, tens of
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millions of dollars in foreign cash flowing like a river
into Biden family coffers. Recently, the House Oversight Committee uncovered
a single set of transactions that netted the Bidens ten
million dollars from a single country that was then funneled
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into more than twenty shell companies and LLC's created for
the Biden's financial benefit. No legitimate purpose for any of
these shell companies, and much of the cash was then
shoveled around various accounts before it finally lands in the
hands of not one, not five, but nine members of
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the president's family. I mean, the increminating evidence comes from
thousands of banking records, wire transfers, electronic transactions. It's contained
in more than one hundred and seventy suspicious activity reports
flagged by banks and then sent to the Criminal Division
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at the Treasury Department. What is that It smacks of money,
any laundering, not to mention bribery, conspiracy, and violations of
the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. So how is it possible
that no charges have been brought? Well, the answer is
simple and definitive. Merrick Garland the age is running interference.
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A host of whistleblowers have come forward recently to testify
that political rot has infected the FBI at the top levels,
but it also extends to Garland's doj The whistleblowers describe
rampant political favoritism, partisan decision making to cover up Biden
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wrongdoing and criminality. Is there any doubt to it? I mean,
just look at what happened to the whistleblowers themselves. They
suffered retaliation and punishment. As one of them said under
oath in recent congressional hearing, if you're honest and you
complain about corruption, quote, the FBI will crush you. It
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doesn't matter. There are laws for bidding retribution. The law
has been tossed in the garbage by the Biden administration,
and all the while Joe continues to mangle the economy,
make a mess of the border. Americans suffering as a result.
They know who's to blame. Take a look at his
approval rating. It's in the dumpster. On the economy and
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border security and skyrocketing crime. Joe has done nothing but
make it worse, and his pull numbers have dropped like
the Hindenburg fast and burning but Joe doesn't care, mainly
because he doesn't know. I mean, this is a guy
whose brain is so autterly he couldn't tell you what
he had for breakfast. If you ask him what color
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of ti he's wearing, he has to look down to check.
During a recent trip to Japan, Joe Biden told marines
stationed there, quote, my son was a major in the
US Army. We lost him in Iraq. Well no, but
that's not the first time that Biden said. At last October,
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you'll recall he made the same head scratching remark. The
truth is his son Bo died of brain cancer in
twenty fifteen at Walter Reed Hospital in Maryland. He didn't
die in Iraq. But look, is it any wonder that
Biden's debt ceiling talks are faltering? I mean, it's hard
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to negotiate with the guy who's not all there. It's
like trying to haggle with a zombie. Nothing makes sense,
because well, Joe has no sense. He thinks everything at
the border is fine in Dandy, no problems at the border,
no worries. Meanwhile, some six and a half million illegals
have crossed the border and vanished into the US US
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by the time Joe Leed's office, you can double that
number to about thirteen or fourteen million illegals, maybe more.
There's no reliable way of tracking them or even knowing
who they are. Murderers, rapist thieves, violent criminals, drug traffickers.
We have done endless stories about innocent civilians, US citizens
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terrorized by people who've come across the border. Recently, a
Marilyn mother whose autistic daughter was raped and killed by
an MS thirteen gang member, and she directly blamed on
Fox News Joe Biden and his border policy, saying, quote,
if the President had secured the border, my daughter would
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be alive today. Well, lots to talk about coming up.
I'll be discussing all of this with David Shoan, civil
liberties attorney, the Great Peter Schweitzer, and Eric Eggers. Also
John mcglah aachlan will join me to talk about the
latest entrance in the presidential sweet stakes for the Republican nomination.
And Don Dieger will join me, who co authored my
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new book, The Trial of the Century. I hope you'll
read it. It's available now for pre sale online. It
comes out in bookstores nationwide on Tuesdays, so stick around
lots to talk about. I'm Greg Jarrett filling in for
Sean on the Sean Hennity Show.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Welcome back to the Sean Hennity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett
filling in for Sean. You can follow me on Twitter
at Greg Jarrett or you can check out my Websitevgreg
Jarrett dot com. I have a new book. I'm happy
to say it's coming out next Tuesday. It's about a
different kind of governmental abuse, a pivotal moment in American
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history when our cherished free speech rights were put in jeopardy,
along with academic freedom and civil liberties. The book is
called The Trial of the Century, about the famous Scopes
monkey trial. And people have been asking me, why did
you write the book. It started actually in a way
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fifty five years ago. I was a young teenager and
I plucked a book off my father's densely packed shelf,
and it seemed like an important book if you can
judge a book by its cover, as the old saying goes.
And I sat down and I started reading it. It
was about the incredible life the greatest trial lawyer who
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ever lived, Clarence Daryl, and Daryl became my idol. Yes
he was an agnostic, he was a liberal, but it
wasn't his politics that defined him. It was his values,
his principles. He became known as the attorney for the damned,
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the oppress, the under privilege. Those were his treasured clients.
He championed their cause. Without him, they scarcely stood a
chance against government overreach and government prosecutors. It's the reason
I became a lawyer. That book, that moment, so random,
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it seems, shaped the contours of my life. Fast forward
about fifty five years. I obtained the original trial transcript
with a famous Scopes Monkey Trial digging through the archives
of the old courthouse in Dayton, Tennessee. The trial of
the century tells the story of the most important criminal
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case in American history. Yes, the press dubbed it the
Scopes Monkey Trial. That was a popular misconception about human evolution.
But at stake was the teaching of science in American education,
which came under sustain attack in the nineteen twenties. They
began banning books, legislatures began passing a law. Tennessee was
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the first to make it a crime to teach evolution.
Darwin's cornerstone theory in public schools, and a young biology
teacher by the name of John Scopes was arrested and
charged for teaching evolution, even though the state had a
textbook that they approved with a chapter on the subject.
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In other words, it was okay for students to read it,
but a teacher could not teach it. Scopes was being
punished criminally for doing his job. This is an incredible
story with a climactic event in which Clarence Darrow calls
the Great William Jennings Bryan to the witness stand as
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an expert on the Bible and utterly destroys him. Five
days later, Bryant lays down to take a nap and dies.
It's an amazing story. It's all in my new book.
I hope you'll check it out. It's called The Trial
of the Century. It's available online right now. It'll be
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in bookstores nationwide on Tuesday. I'll be back here on
Tuesday with Sean to talk about the book. In the meantime,
we're going to take a short break. Coming up next,
I'll be talking with my co author of the book,
Don Jeger. Stick around. We'll be right back on the
Sean Hennity Show.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Working every day to remember the forgotten Man. This is
a Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Welcome to The Sean Hennity Show on Greg Jarrett filling
in for Sean. Be sure to follow me on Twitter
at Greg Jarrett. You can listen to my podcast The Brief,
read my legal columns and other articles on my website,
the Greg Jarrett dot Com. You can also it's so
good to my website and you just click on a
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landing page there about my new book. We've been talking
about it over the last half hour, The Trial of
the Century. You can preorder it online through Amazon dot
Combarnesendnoble dot com, or you can wait until Tuesday when
the book will be in bookstores nationwide, The Trial of
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the Century. Well, as I mentioned, my guest now is
my co author Don Jeger, who has done incredible work
researching the history of the Trial of the Century. The
town of Dayton, Tennessee, were at all unfolded in nineteen
twenty five, and Don, you focused a lot on the
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history of the characters. Importantly, you know William Jennings Bryant,
three time presidential nominee for the Democrats, lost all three
times and the greatest trial lawyer who ever lived, Clarence Darrow,
who became my idle the reason I was inspired to
pursue a legal career. And I was telling listeners about
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the moment in the trial where Darrow is staring down
a stack deck. He knows that the jury is stacked.
The judges against him has held him in criminal contempt.
When Darrow questioned the judge's fairness, the judge clearly wants
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to convict John Scopes in the so called Scope's Monkey trial,
and Darrow doesn't give up. In a bold and brilliant move,
he decides to call his nemesis, William Jennings Bryan to
the witness stand to be an expert on the Bible.
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And it was such a genius moved on because Darrow
new Brant and new Bryant's ego was as big as
all outdoors and he could not resist taking the witness
stand to show off his knowledge of the Bible and
man's creation as depicted in Genesis. We actually you and
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I actually decided, after some discussion with it the publisher,
let's open the book with a portion of the end
of the trial. This wonderful climactic moment take it from there.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You know, thanks Greg by the way for having me.
And it's just always a treat to be with you
because you are I've had the chance to work with
a lot of folks and a few have just been
such a great partner as you have, So thank you.
But I have to tell you the idea of ending,
of beginning with the end right, which is can sometimes
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you know, it's it's very movie like and there's a
lot of opportunities there. It was just so natural here
because it was as you as you've just so well
described it. It was that moment in which it took
genius and it took an understanding of all the players,
all the all the pieces on the board in order
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for Darrow to choose to make that kind of the
hill he would where he would go to, you know,
to to if he was going to go to die.
He wanted to make sure he did it on the
right hill, and this was the place.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You get William Junnings, Brian out there, you begin asking
questions and look, we're people of faith here and and
so I get it. I mean, the one thing about
it is it's sometimes it's hard to describe or really
explain why you believe certain things to be true, because
there's parts of faith that require exactly that, right, your
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ability to show faith. And Darrow knew that if he
got into a a logical debate about certain things that
were biblical about creation, that that Brian would look as
he ultimately did, as he would embarrass himself, which he did, right.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
And you know, his audience was stacked with people, his supporters.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
He was standing outside with signs, you know, saying here's
my Bible and don't try to you'll pry away with
my you know.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And they were expecting this, this brilliant recitation about the
Bible from Brian, and he fumbled and stumbled and mumbled
and he you know, the expectations were not there. And
the funny thing about it is that, you know, Clarence Darrow,
who was this famed agnostic, not an atheist, but an agnostic,
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actually knew a lot of about the Bible. His father
had gone to seminary school, he grew up with it.
His mother was deeply religious. You know, Claren Starow knew
entire passages from the Bible by heart, and he had
this brilliant mind and he understood as theologians did and
still do that. The book is filled with parables and allegories,
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and not everything written is literal. They're there to teach
us important moral lessons about life and how to conduct
ourselves in society and our fellow human beings, which is,
by the way, how Darrow conducted himself. And yet Bryant
couldn't recognize it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's so amazing. Well, but I think that's true of
a lot of folks who become a little full of
their knowledge of a certain space that they don't see
the potential, the potential weakness, and there in their their
their their position, and and but I think that the
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beauty of it was that Darrow, you know, as a
good lawyer, would do. And that's that's been the fun
of working on this book with you, because you're you
think of it. I think of it as a journalist.
I think of it as a writer. You you come
at it with this with an understanding of of of
legal approach. A good lawyer sets you up right, they're
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kind of bringing you. They're asking a question here, and
then there's a little little greater nibble there, and and
if you read that portion of just if you just
read that opening portion of of the book, and that
and you understand that story, you see the genius. You
see why because I was always fascinating Greg when you
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and I first started talking about doing this book, that
Clarence Darrow was your hero, right, You're you know that
for some people that would that would seem odd. You're
You're you're a solid the conservative you know, uh under
you understand and you see things through a through through
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your lens, which is wonderfully conservative. And Daryl was not
always that in fact heself, No he was.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
He was a liberal, but it wasn't his politics. It
was his principles and values that I so revered in
his process.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think what I saw in you was an appreciation
of his mind and the way he he took the
subject on in a in a way that allowed him
to lose and win at the same time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So, so here's Daryl, and you know he knows Genesis,
you know, like the bag of his hand. I mean,
he so he starts off with Jonah and the whale,
and then he moves on to Joshua stopping the sun. Uh,
and then he begins to pick apart Brian about the
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Garden of Eden and the talking serpent and so forth.
And you know, it becomes apparent not just to the
reader of our book, but to the thousands in that
outdoor audience, is they're watching this unfold, that that Brian
can't justify his interpretation of those passages in the Bible,
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and they turn on him, don't they. They they began laughing.
And there was nothing which only inflames his pain.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Right, There was nothing would pain him more. Right if
you if you imagine writ somebody with great ego, someone
with great confidence, maybe maybe that that when the the
audience would turn to a place that they would be
laughing at you. That's maybe the greatest insult of all. Uh,
it would I would be worse worse than even if
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they just plane walked away and I and I as
he sat out there in that heat and his you know,
and and his wool suit, all of that that that
that had to make him uncomfortable, nothing would make it
more so than to have the audience realize, oh, this
genius of a man maybe isn't as genius as he says.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah. In the end, Brian is utterly defeated and destroyed,
and then the press at the time destroyed him further,
you know all these major newspapers, banner headlines covering it
every day. Uh, it is the first trial that is
live on radio cross the nation. People actually, you know,
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stop what they were doing to listen to the trumpa
and and here here is this defeated man, this once
great American statesman, and he's he's a broken man. And
you know, as as you and I write in the book,
the crowd instead of converging and congratulating Brian does it
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to Darrow. And Daryl looks back up on the platform
and the witness stand and there is Brian, a lone,
solitary figure, you know, with no friend by his side.
I mean, it is such a dramatic mind if you.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Were to if you were to make a movie, it
would not be a bad opening scene. I think that's
the again. I think that was what worked so well
as the book started to come together, and the decision
about how to craft it, how to tell the story
in a way that would draw the audience most completely
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and most compellingly in with us on this journey, that
was the perfect opener. I think it was a great choice.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, it really was. John Yeger is my guest, a
co author, along with me and my new book. Our
new book, I should say sorry, I'm a doctor some
of Brian's arrogance. Look, buddy, it's called The Trial of
the Century. Comes out next Tuesday. It's available now online
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Barnesandnoble dot com, Amazon dot Com, or just go to
my website, Thegreg Jarrett dot Com slash book. You can
order it there. Don stick around for just a moment,
got lots more to talk about. You know, a moment
ago we were saying, oh, this cross examination outdoors with
thousands of people looking on. Our listeners are probably saying,
wait a minute, I thought it was in a court room.
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We'll explain it when we come back with my co author,
Don Yaeger. I'm Greg Jarrett filling in for Sean on
the Sean Hannity Show. Back again to the Sean Hannity
Show on Greg Jarrett filling in for Sean. My new book,
The Trial of the Century, comes out next week on Tuesday.
You can find it in bookstores nationwide or you can
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order it now online. My guest is my co author,
Don Yaeger, co author of the Trial of the Century.
And you know, Don, part of what made it The
Trial of the century were the throngs of people who
converged on this tiny town of Dayton, Tennessee. And they
were jammed inside this courtroom, a cavernous courtroom, by the way,
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on the second floor of the courthouse there in the
town square in Dayton, Tennessee. But the cross examination of
William Jenny's Bryan by the legendary Clarence Darrow actually took
place outdoors.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Explain that well, because in many ways the case had
already been decided. Everybody knew where it was going. When
Darrow made this very bold decision to ask for the
opportunity to put opposing council on the witness stand right,
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think about the odds of that in any world today,
And knowing that he was not going to pass on
William Jenny's Bryan, was I could to pass on that?
They also knew that it was bigger than the courtroom,
and so there happened to be on the back, on
the backsteps of the courthouse, an opportunity to set up
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a stage and let more people than would normally be
allowed in to witness and to say they were part
of that moment. And the judge agreed, and so the
entire the entirety of the of the front of the
courtroom moves down these backstairs and they make their way
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outside to this makeshift stage.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Leftover from Fourth to July festivities.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
It was already there.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Let's make use of it. And then you know, of
course WGN was broadcasting a trial on radio, and they
had to scramble to remove the microphones and rewire them
and put them outdoors and so forth, and there's this
iconic picture. And then we have it in the book. There
are thirty eight photographs that I got from the archive
and I downloaded a high resolution and scandiments over there
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in the book. And there is on the stage Clarence
Darrow Cross examining William Jennings Bryan. And it's just an
amazing moment, an amazing story, and I'm afraid we're out
of time, but don you thank you so much for
being with us today, and thank you so much for
your stellar work on the book as my co author,
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much appreciated, well.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
The ultimate partner, Greg, It's been fun to work with you,
and the idea that you would pick this as the
story that we get to do together was fascinating.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Thank you very much. You can pick up the book
The Trial of the Century, by simply going to a
bookstore on Tuesday nationwide, it'll be everywhere. Or just go online.
Go to my website d Greg Jared dot com slash book.
You can order it right there. We'll be right back
talking with a pollster, John McLaughlin in a moment some
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stunning new polls out