May 22, 2023 • 29 mins
Steve Moore, economist and author of “Trumponomics: Inside the America First Plan to Revive Our Economy” and EJ Antoni, Research Fellow, Regional Economics, Center for Data Analysis discuss the debt ceiling and the potential default for our nation in the hands of the Biden administration.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Night, Our two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and ninety
four to one, Shawn, if you want to be a
part of the program. Eleven days left until we hit
what is being called by Janet Yelling, the drop dead
date on the debt ceiling. Only twenty four percent, according
to the AP say that the Biden economy is good.
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The House of course. You know, we went through the
the timeline, the many times opportunities, Kevin McCarthy reaching out, begging,
pleading with Joe Biden to meet with him to discuss
the debt ceiling. Ninety seven straight days. Joe Biden was
missing in action. You know, now he has to end
the G seven early and some of his foreign travels early.
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I'm sure it's just it's just an excuse to deal
with the debt ceiling. This country has never had a default.
If there is a default, it'll be the Biden default.
You know, the current size of the national debt is
thirty one trillion dollars, and sixty percent of Americans believe
that spending constraints have got to be a part of
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raising the debt limit. And this is simple, simple stuff here.
You know, did Democrats say just just raise it, while
the Republicans want to put in spending restraints anyway. Steve
Moore is with US Economist, author of the bestseller Trumpanomics,
and E. J. Antoni is with US research fellow Regional
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Economics Center for Data Analysis. So with eleven days to go, now,
it's you know, power panic politics. And in a lot
of ways, I would argue Steve Moore that you know,
Kevin McCarthy has played this masterflee. He asked pretty much
on a daily basis for Joe Biden to meet with him.
Joe Biden said, no negotiations, No, we won't meet, waited
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ninety seven days. I think he took the bet that
Republicans would not unite in the House with a debt
sealing increase that was this responsible. That simply takes us
back to twenty twenty two spending levels, which is the
era spending levels, and reduces the baseline budgeting number to
only increasing the numbers one percent a year, which is
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fiscally responsible and allows for some you know, more energy
production nationwide. To me, it's pretty basic, pretty fundamental, pretty simple,
and a few worker requirements if you get government handouts.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well put.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And I would just remind your listeners, because the media
hasn't report on this that there is really only one
game in down right now, Sean. You know, the Republicans
control the House, the Democrats control the Senate. The Republican
House has passed the debt ceiling bill. They passed the
debt ceialing bill. Maybe Joe Biden doesn't like it, but
they did extend it. Meanwhile, why isn't the media focusing
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on Chuckie Schumer who runs the Senate. They're nowhere, they
can't get anything passed in the Senate, and they're trying
to blame it on the Republicans who don't run the Senate.
So if I found a little frustrated, I am, because
the media just isn't reporting what's really going on here,
I should say, Jean, I agree with you. I think
Kevin McCarthy has done an amazing job as speaker to
get those two hundred and eighteen votes to pass a
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debt ceiling bill that was not easy. You're also right
that Joe Biden completely politically miscalculated. They made a bet
that McCarthy wouldn't be able to do it, and he did.
And I'll make one other quick point. You know this
bill would go back to twenty twenty two spending levels,
which is fine. I mean that would be improvement. But
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Brook I would Ran Paul I think we should go
back to the pre COVID before we spent that seven
trillion dollars. We should go back to the pre COVID baseline.
We could balance the budget next year if we did that.
So this is my point is this is not some
kind of radical plan on that Kevin McCarthy has put
out there.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
What is your take about the Democrats waiting EJ so
long number one and number two? This insanity that somehow
he thinks he can bypass spending in Congress and the
Constitution and rely on the fourteen the moment.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Well, in terms of their strategy, Sean, I think when
you listen to people like Janet Yellen, when you listen
to the President other people in the administration, they keep
throwing out the word default, default, default, default, as if
that's going to happen. What does default mean? That means
the United States can't service its debt, in other words,
we can't pay the interest on the bond holders, et cetera. Well,
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the Treasury actually has seven times get this, seven times
the revenue it needs to be able to service the debt.
In fact, we have so much revenue right now we
can pay to service the debt, and in the current
fiscal year to date, we can pay for Social Security Medicare,
so it's not like all of a sudden Social Security.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Checks are going to stop going out.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
We can pay for VA benefits, the entire bloated defense budget,
and there's still half a trillion dollars left over in
the current fiscal years. So the idea that somehow we
don't have enough money to pay for the essentials is
just nonsense. The idea that we're going to default is
non sen It's part of the strategy. The Democrats are
trying to run out the clock, wait until the eleventh hour,
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get everyone in a panic so they can get their way.
But as far as the fourteenth Amendment goes, I'm so
glad you azzed about that, because that's another thing that
Biden keeps throwing out there. He clearly has no idea
what that amendment means. He probably hasn't even read it.
The fourteenth Amendment deals with after the Civil War, there
were two debts. There was a debt acquired by the
Union States, and a debt acquired by the Confederate States,
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And that amendment said that the debts acquired by the
Union States were valid debt and are assumed to be
part of the national debt, whereas the debts of the
Confederate States are invalid and therefore will not be paid.
That is what the amendment actually says. It has nothing
to do with the debt ceiling, which didn't even come
into existence until about a half a century later.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know, I'm looking at all this and I agree
with everything EJ is saying, Steve Moore, But in reality,
Janet Yellen is saying no, after this hard day to
June first, it's it's game over. America will officially be
in default, and they're predicting every bit of doom and gloom,
et cetera. Well, if they felt that urgent about it,
why did Joe Biden go missing in action for ninety
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seven days.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's a death dealing bill. When they had control of Congress,
remember it was now long ago. You know that the
Democrats controlled every leverage of power. They could have passed
a five year debt fealing if they had wanted to.
This point about the fourteenth Amendment is important one. There's
a great editorial in the Wall Street Journal that explains
this further, which points out that, yes, the United States
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government has a legal obligation to pay the bondholders. It
doesn't mean that the president can just pierce through the
death fealing and borrow whatever he wants to. Those are
two different things. So if we get passed the day,
if we don't have a deal on time, it means
the first thing that has to be paid constitutionally is
those bondholders. One other quick thing here, if you look
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at the kinds of conditions that republic to put out
there se on things like, yeah, you have to work,
you get a job, if you're going to get welfare benefits.
That's something eighty percent of Americans agree with. The idea. No,
we're not going to give one hundred and fifty billion
dollars for people who didn't pay their student loans and
require working class Americans to pay those bills. No, we're
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not going to do that. And then you have a
big one, as you know, let's have the drilling. Let's
go back to the drilling and create jobs and produce
revenue for the government. Sure, why I don't understand why
the Democrats are opposed to those things.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Let me ask you both, what impact does this have.
The poll show that Americans are in overwhelming numbers EJ
wanting fiscal responsibilities, So what impact does that have politically?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, I think it is definitely another thing in favor
of McCarthy and the reasonable measures he's trying to put
in place here. You know, I think it was Churchill,
Winston Churchill who said that you can always count on
the American people to do the right thing after they've
tried everything else. Well, over the last several years, we've
tried everything except fiscal restraint and fiscal responsibility on the
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part of the government. And what has that gotten us.
It has gotten us forty year high inflation, falling real wages.
We had an economy that already had two consecutive quarters
of negative growth. That's a recession. We're getting ready to
go into another recession, probably later this year. That makes
it a double dipper session. I mean, we can see
the results of the catastrophic results of excessive government spending,
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barring and printing of money. And I think the American
people are recognizing that and they're saying enough is enough.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It seems like over the weekend, things took a dramatic
turn for the worst because those negotiating on behalf of
Biden seemed to be giving into the left wing climate
alarmist religious cults that had been pushing back hard internally
Steve Moore for more spending. So they want more spending,
they don't want fiscal responsibility measures. And now that then
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also causes a risk to McCarthy. You know, McCarthy won
this vote in the House by two votes. He's got
to four vote margin. Now he doesn't need every Republican
to go along with with some type of compromise deal.
But if he compromises too much, I would argue that
it could trigger a vote to vacate in terms of
his speakership.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, I think Karki should not retreat at all here.
I mean, he really has Biden in a bind. He
has the only game in town. You mentioned the Green
New Deal. You know there's a I don't think a
lot of you know people know this, but there's a
three hundred billion Now it is, say three three hundred
billion dollar green energy slush fund that's being run by
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John Podesta, who's a political Democratic political hack, and that
money where do you think that money is going to
go Seohny is gonna it's gonna go to all these
left wing interest groups. Three hundred million dollars, that's the
three thousand Heritage Foundations. So Republicans are sparks to say, no,
we're not going to fund that. We're not going to
fund eighty seven thousand new i RIS agents that are
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going to come after people like EJ and me and
you Sean, because we have conservative voices and we know
that because they did under Obama. They politicize and weaponize
every branch of.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Government, well in every single department. They have money put
aside for green initiatives. EJ and this country can't afford it.
And by the way, nor does the technology exist. This
is the biggest problem that the climate alarmist religious cult has.
They don't have any replacement for fossil fuels, even their
precious electric vehicles. You have to pillage mother Earth to
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get the coal, bolt and the manganese and the nickel
and the other minerals that you're taking out of the Earth.
Number one, number two, ninety percent of our electric grid
when you go to plug in your electric vehicles based.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
On fossil fuels.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So you know, tell me how is how is that
differentiates itself from the combustion engine, which is fifteen to
twenty thousand dollars cheaper than than an electric vehicle car.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
And not only that, Sean, but they don't want us
to actually get any of those minerals and any of
those resources here, which means we're going to get them
from places like China and India, parts of Africa and
the Middle East and even Southeast Asia where they have
nowhere near the environmental protections that we do. And so
it's catastrophically damaging to the environment when they take those
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those things out of the ground in such an environmentally
unsafe way, whereas here we can do it in a
much safe way. But unfortunately, the regulators won't let us
get to those things at all. But even if you
did actually convert everything to electric, whether it's your stove
or whether it's your car, et cetera, you still haven't
answered the problem of how on Earth do you get
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the grid up to speed, the electrical grid so that
it can handle that much of an increase in load.
You're talking about a thousandfold increase in our requirements for
things like copper and aluminum just to get the grid
up to speed, not even including what you need to
build all of these electric devices themselves. And you're absolutely right,
they have no answer as far as hell on Earth,
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we're going to do any of.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
This quick break more on the economy. Steve Moore and
e j Antoni is with us. Eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn,
our number. If you want to be a part of
the program. Larry Elder at the top of the hour.
Many of you may not know that Larry's running for
president himself. We'll get to him. We'll get to your calls.
Hi twenty five to the top of the hour, eight
hundred and ninety four one, Shawn, you want to be
a part of the program before we get to our calls.
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You gotta love any moment that Peter Doocey gets to
question Joe Biden. This is Peter asking him about the
debt ceiling. Joe again, you know, missing in action, no negotiation,
no negotiation, no negotiation. The same guy as we've played
many times before in twenty eleven, saying it can't be
my way of the highway waits ninety seven days, betting
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that there's no way Republicans pass a bill in the House. Well,
they passed it, and it's actually fiscally responsible and raises
the debt ceiling. So if we have a default, it's
going to be Biden's default period.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
End of sentence. Anyway, here's him saying, not my fault.
I did everything I could do.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
Said already, of course, no will blame me. I know
you won't. You'll be saying Biden did a wonderful job.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I know you.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
On the merits, based on what I've offered, I would
be blameless. On the politics of it, no one will
be blameless. And by the way, that's one of the
that's one of the things that some are contemplating. I
actually had. Well, I gotta be careful here. I think
there are some maga Republicans in the House who know
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the damage that it would do to the economy. And
because I am president and president's responsible for everything, Biden
would take the blame. And that's the one way to
make sure Biden's not re elected.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
The worst thing you could do is continue to spend
money you don't have have. This would bring fiscal responsibility
into Biden's life, which would be good politically for him.
He gets to say, oh, I cut the deficit four
point eight trillion dollars one. Meanwhile, it's the House Republicans
that did it. All right, let's get to our phones.
Ron in South Carolina, Ron, how are you? What do
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you think of Tim Scott's announcement today?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Hey, Sean, I would say, right now, if we were
playing the game twenty one with Jim Scott and Nicky Haley,
we'd have a king and a queen running.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
That's a nice compliment, I think, right.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, Well, it's like I look at it the way
I would vote right now. If I could give you
my top four real quick, it would be Donald Trump,
Ron de Santez, Tim Scott, and Nicky Haley. And I
just feel like Donald Trump and Ron Decantez has given
us examples of where they haven't compromised at all. And
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when I look.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
At Tim Scott, my mind goes back to January sixth
and when they were in the process of of rejecting
the election or protests in the election. Because of January sixth,
all the senators k and there's some things when NICKI
Haley was governor, with all due respect to her, there
are just some things she did that troubled me that
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she said she wouldn't do. But that's kind of where
I'm spending out on that perspective.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So I think there's something about every candidate that everybody
could say that they'd like to change. I'm sure there's
things about me that if you could tell me, Hanna,
if you do this, I like your show more, what
would you tell me that you want me to improve
in the show? I'll take any criticism out.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Honestly, I can't think of it. You're one of the few,
You're one of the few guys out there that I
listened to on a consistent basis.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's very kind, But you know what, we're all open
to look, nobody's perfect.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Number one, let's start with that. Number Two.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I would argue today, and it is May twenty second,
and we're heading into Memorial Day weekend, that nobody knows
what issues are going to really be in play when
we get to November twenty twenty four, I would argue
that part. Now, that's why I'm saying in the interim,
Republicans need to get their act together, and they've got
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to get out with a campaign to get over people's reluctance,
resistance to early voting, voting by mail number one and
number two. They've got to get involved in legal ballot
harvesting efforts and match the efforts of the Democratic Party
and hopefully even surpass their efforts. I know I sound
like a broken record, but it's not getting done yet,
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and until it does, I'll keep squawking about it.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I agree with you one hundred percent, and I would
add this one too. We need to reduce the number
of candidates that we have running in the national election
after the primary is over. We need to see all
of our guys our gals get behind whoever the candidate is. Like,
I mean, you take away all those running in Pennsylvania
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and Arizona and Georgia and we have a different president. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Look, I think a lot of mistakes were made in
twenty twenty two. I think Democrats have figured out they've
taken the way they approach elections is so different than Republicans.
It's night and day, and we didn't really see it.
We didn't understand it, and COVID certainly accelerated all of this.
They don't shake hands, they don't kiss babies, they don't
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take selfies, they don't do town halls, they don't do
press avails, they don't even want a debate. They run
hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads and they
ballot harvest legally based on what this state law is.
And that's how they've been successful. And Republicans have allowed
them to get away with that, and they've not gotten
into that arena yet. And I'm saying, get in the arena.
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It's not the system I want. I want paper ballots.
Election Day to be a national holiday. I want partisan
observers and every precinct watching the voting all day and
when the polls closed, the counting all night and a
winner declared.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
That's what I want.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I agree with you one hundred percent on that because
I said, there's four things that God has been twenty
and you just hit on all four of them, with
the exception of complacent and compliant judges and politicians.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, I tell you right now, the one thing Republicans
do have. We have a good bench. We have a
good group of people that I think that you know,
can lead, and especially as time goes on, that's going
to be important.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Anyway, let me run ron.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Appreciate it, buddy, glad you're out there in South Carolina, Joe,
in the free state of Florida.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Joe. We expect your governor's going to announce this week.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Just fine?
Speaker 9 (18:30):
Thanks for having me on your show.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Sean, Well, I'm glad to have you. What's going on?
Speaker 9 (18:33):
Oh, I just wanted to say, you know, we're in
I'm in Jacksonville, Florida. I voted for Ron Desantus twice,
and I've voted for him to run the state of
Florida for eight years. You know, Florida is not a
stepping stone for your political ambitions, you know, to run
around the country for the next year and a half
and run for president.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And I believe that.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
All the rhinos and all the never Trumpers going to
line up behind Rawn and it's going to be political
suicide for him, and he's not going to be able
to run for nothing else after this.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Look, people have said this in the past. Anytime a
sitting politician runs for an office, there's always going to
be those saying, why don't you focus on the office
you have, et cetera. I get it, I understand it.
You know, it's I think he's done a great job
for the state of Florida. I really do. I think
he was the right guy. I think Trump's supporting it
was the right thing to do in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
But then he did.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
He did the job the people of Florida needed, and
that that was evident by the one point five million
vote margin that he had in the last election in
twenty twenty two. So, look, they're going to be they're
going to be critics of everybody, you know, but you
got to see how this process unfolds. I am telling
you right now. Is one thing I can say with certainty.
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Whatever issues we're voting on, the political conditions are going
to be very different than they are today.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
That I can tell you. And you know this this system.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It may not seem like you know, we're only five
hundred and twenty some odd days away from the twenty
twenty four November election. It's not that far away. It's
gonna go fast. It'll go in the flash of an eye.
Next thing we'll know it's the end of summer. I
know we're heading into a Memorial Day. I'm talking about
Labor Day already. H and then it's gonna be the spring,
and then it's gonna be the fall, and I'm sorry,
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not the spring. Then it's gonna be the fall, and
then it's gonna be winter. And here we go, Iowa,
here we come, and it starts from there.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
But another point. You know, they passed a good, a
good law here in Florida if you're gonna run for
another political office, you have to resign from the office
you have. Well, they turn around and change the law
just to fit Ron DeSantis, you know, and I think
that I just don't think that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
The people of Florida will absolutely weigh in on that
and decide for themselves. I mean, that's that's the way
it goes. I can't sit here and tell people what
to think or you know, you're expressing your views, and
you know, I just want good governance at the local level,
the state level, and the federal level, and we don't
have We don't have that in most places. Now you
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do have it in Florida, which is great for you,
but there's a lot of places you don't have it.
I'm pretty convinced that Governor Kemp of Georgia is going
to get into that would be a similar situation. I
think he thinks that he can be a player in this.
We'll see you know, time is going to tell, this
will take on a life of its own.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
You'll see.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Appreciate the call, my friend, God bless you. Eight hundred
and nine to FOURT one Seawn On Number Courtney, California,
Next Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
What's up Courtney? How are you hey?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Sean? Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
You bet, thank you. What's going on well with.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
The Durham report out now, it just appears that the
people at the very top of a lot of different
organizations knew that this from the very beginning. This was
just a political trick, and then they propagated it for
years and years, and a lot of people were damaged.
It ended careers, It hurt a lot of people besides
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the country as a whole. And it just would seem
to me that since this was such a hoax, that
maybe articles could be introduced in Congress for the expungement
of Trump's impeachment because it proves that there was just
no basis for that.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
There was no basis for it. As a matter of fact,
there was an interesting foxnews dot Com piece how Durham's
report shows Biden and Obama. They knew the truth of
Trump Russia Russia collusion being a hoax the whole time,
but they kept silent. And we know because in July
twenty sixteen, then CIA Director Brennan, who by the way,
had no problem pushing this himself, rushed to the White
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House to brief Obama and Biden about alarming new evidence
uncovered by American intelligence that the CIA had obtained reliable
information quote that Hillary Clinton had approved a campaign plan
to stir up a scandal against Donald Trump by tying
him to Putin and the Russians. Page eighty one of
the Durham Report. Take a look at it. It's pretty interesting.
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And you know, John Durham and explicably failed to compel
the testimony of people like Komi and McCabe and Struck
and others. You know, now we're discovering today FBI sur
balance abuse twenty three thousand searches for January sixth suspects
versus one hundred and thirty three searches for twenty twenties
anti cop rioters. That's five hundred and seventy four rioters.
(23:31):
You know, the double standard is clear, can't be any
more clear than it is.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
But when you really think about it, their silence is
it's more it's morally reprehensible what they what they did,
and they kept propagating it, and that it's that's a
very sad thing because these people took an oath to
the constitution and to protect you know, the country, and
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they're the ones that instigated it and propagated it and
spread this throughout and that's what's that's what's really sad,
and it's just it's just sad.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So it's sad, and it's also dangerous. The danger part
comes in with shredding our constitution and we have a
dual justice system, and we now have had the FBI
putting their cinder blocks on the scales of two presidential elections,
and now we know the CIA was involved and putting
their their cinder blocks on the scale of the last election.
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It's and frankly, I would argue that you could say
two presidential elections with them too. This deep state is
pernicious and it exists and we better be careful anyway,
appreciate it. Thank you eight hundred and nine point one. Seawn,
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are you glad you called?
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm good, sir. Happy Monday Memorial Day is coming. You've
got a long weekend straight ahead.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
I'm ready for it too, Hey, real quick, real quick.
A couple of things. One I hear when I listen
to you all the time, but I hear in your
voice exasperation, and I hear exasperation with two things. One
is kind of how can this administration be so inept,
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so dom as to make some of the decision It's
just like waiting for the waiting for the dead ceiling
to you know, to crash, you know, But it's it's
it's you give them too much credits. They're not stupid there.
This is all by plan. They want this country to break.
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They want the constitutional democracy, the republic that we have.
They want it to collapse, and everything they do is
to that end. It's not by acts. It's like whoops.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know, well, look the policies that they're adopting are
working against the country. You know, the policies at the border,
the policies on law and order, their energy policies, their
economic policies, their foreign policy. There's nothing that I can
point to and say that they're making good decisions on.
Do I think they're stupid? No, I think stupid is
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the wrong word. Do I think that this is their
radicalism on display. Yeah, I think this is the direction
they want to take this country, and it is failing.
It is failing on a spectacular level. It is impacting
every American and it's only going to get worse the
longer it continues. It's really that simple. Do I think
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it is an accident that they have open borders now
they can close the borders anytime they want. Is it
an accident that they believe in defund dismantle nobail laws. No,
they they're pushing them. Is it an accident that they
refuse to be energy dominant and energy independent? No, they're
they're giving into their climate alarmist religious cult and they're
insane ideas, which is destroying the economy. Do I believe
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that this new Green deal everything's free and provided by
your government mentality is real? Yeah, they buy into all
of this crap and it's all ruining the country.
Speaker 10 (28:47):
Totally agree, you know. And another thing is, you know,
and I've picked up on this a long time ago
and been fact checked me everything, everything that I hear
left of center politically accusing anyone right of center of
is what left of center is doing, you know, the
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accusation of collusion, the accusation of cheating, of rigging an election,
of all of these things. But basically, if I hear
the left accuse the right of doing something, that tells
me the left is doing it. Do you see that?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, in most cases, yeah, they're the ones. They're the
ones that were colluding. That wasn't you know? It was
Adam Schift that got punked by a you know, a
pony Russian comedian, right, it was you know, Hillary Clinton's
bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier anyway, I appreciate
it to call my friend eight hundred and ninety four
one Shawn. There's only one answer, and that's elections.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Win them,
Night, Our two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and ninety
four to one, Shawn, if you want to be a
part of the program. Eleven days left until we hit
what is being called by Janet Yelling, the drop dead
date on the debt ceiling. Only twenty four percent, according
to the AP say that the Biden economy is good.
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The House of course. You know, we went through the
the timeline, the many times opportunities, Kevin McCarthy reaching out, begging,
pleading with Joe Biden to meet with him to discuss
the debt ceiling. Ninety seven straight days. Joe Biden was
missing in action. You know, now he has to end
the G seven early and some of his foreign travels early.
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I'm sure it's just it's just an excuse to deal
with the debt ceiling. This country has never had a default.
If there is a default, it'll be the Biden default.
You know, the current size of the national debt is
thirty one trillion dollars, and sixty percent of Americans believe
that spending constraints have got to be a part of
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raising the debt limit. And this is simple, simple stuff here.
You know, did Democrats say just just raise it, while
the Republicans want to put in spending restraints anyway. Steve
Moore is with US Economist, author of the bestseller Trumpanomics,
and E. J. Antoni is with US research fellow Regional
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Economics Center for Data Analysis. So with eleven days to go, now,
it's you know, power panic politics. And in a lot
of ways, I would argue Steve Moore that you know,
Kevin McCarthy has played this masterflee. He asked pretty much
on a daily basis for Joe Biden to meet with him.
Joe Biden said, no negotiations, No, we won't meet, waited
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ninety seven days. I think he took the bet that
Republicans would not unite in the House with a debt
sealing increase that was this responsible. That simply takes us
back to twenty twenty two spending levels, which is the
era spending levels, and reduces the baseline budgeting number to
only increasing the numbers one percent a year, which is
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fiscally responsible and allows for some you know, more energy
production nationwide. To me, it's pretty basic, pretty fundamental, pretty simple,
and a few worker requirements if you get government handouts.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well put.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And I would just remind your listeners, because the media
hasn't report on this that there is really only one
game in down right now, Sean. You know, the Republicans
control the House, the Democrats control the Senate. The Republican
House has passed the debt ceiling bill. They passed the
debt ceialing bill. Maybe Joe Biden doesn't like it, but
they did extend it. Meanwhile, why isn't the media focusing
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on Chuckie Schumer who runs the Senate. They're nowhere, they
can't get anything passed in the Senate, and they're trying
to blame it on the Republicans who don't run the Senate.
So if I found a little frustrated, I am, because
the media just isn't reporting what's really going on here,
I should say, Jean, I agree with you. I think
Kevin McCarthy has done an amazing job as speaker to
get those two hundred and eighteen votes to pass a
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debt ceiling bill that was not easy. You're also right
that Joe Biden completely politically miscalculated. They made a bet
that McCarthy wouldn't be able to do it, and he did.
And I'll make one other quick point. You know this
bill would go back to twenty twenty two spending levels,
which is fine. I mean that would be improvement. But
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Brook I would Ran Paul I think we should go
back to the pre COVID before we spent that seven
trillion dollars. We should go back to the pre COVID baseline.
We could balance the budget next year if we did that.
So this is my point is this is not some
kind of radical plan on that Kevin McCarthy has put
out there.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
What is your take about the Democrats waiting EJ so
long number one and number two? This insanity that somehow
he thinks he can bypass spending in Congress and the
Constitution and rely on the fourteen the moment.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Well, in terms of their strategy, Sean, I think when
you listen to people like Janet Yellen, when you listen
to the President other people in the administration, they keep
throwing out the word default, default, default, default, as if
that's going to happen. What does default mean? That means
the United States can't service its debt, in other words,
we can't pay the interest on the bond holders, et cetera. Well,
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the Treasury actually has seven times get this, seven times
the revenue it needs to be able to service the debt.
In fact, we have so much revenue right now we
can pay to service the debt, and in the current
fiscal year to date, we can pay for Social Security Medicare,
so it's not like all of a sudden Social Security.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Checks are going to stop going out.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
We can pay for VA benefits, the entire bloated defense budget,
and there's still half a trillion dollars left over in
the current fiscal years. So the idea that somehow we
don't have enough money to pay for the essentials is
just nonsense. The idea that we're going to default is
non sen It's part of the strategy. The Democrats are
trying to run out the clock, wait until the eleventh hour,
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get everyone in a panic so they can get their way.
But as far as the fourteenth Amendment goes, I'm so
glad you azzed about that, because that's another thing that
Biden keeps throwing out there. He clearly has no idea
what that amendment means. He probably hasn't even read it.
The fourteenth Amendment deals with after the Civil War, there
were two debts. There was a debt acquired by the
Union States, and a debt acquired by the Confederate States,
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And that amendment said that the debts acquired by the
Union States were valid debt and are assumed to be
part of the national debt, whereas the debts of the
Confederate States are invalid and therefore will not be paid.
That is what the amendment actually says. It has nothing
to do with the debt ceiling, which didn't even come
into existence until about a half a century later.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know, I'm looking at all this and I agree
with everything EJ is saying, Steve Moore, But in reality,
Janet Yellen is saying no, after this hard day to
June first, it's it's game over. America will officially be
in default, and they're predicting every bit of doom and gloom,
et cetera. Well, if they felt that urgent about it,
why did Joe Biden go missing in action for ninety
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seven days.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's a death dealing bill. When they had control of Congress,
remember it was now long ago. You know that the
Democrats controlled every leverage of power. They could have passed
a five year debt fealing if they had wanted to.
This point about the fourteenth Amendment is important one. There's
a great editorial in the Wall Street Journal that explains
this further, which points out that, yes, the United States
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government has a legal obligation to pay the bondholders. It
doesn't mean that the president can just pierce through the
death fealing and borrow whatever he wants to. Those are
two different things. So if we get passed the day,
if we don't have a deal on time, it means
the first thing that has to be paid constitutionally is
those bondholders. One other quick thing here, if you look
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at the kinds of conditions that republic to put out
there se on things like, yeah, you have to work,
you get a job, if you're going to get welfare benefits.
That's something eighty percent of Americans agree with. The idea. No,
we're not going to give one hundred and fifty billion
dollars for people who didn't pay their student loans and
require working class Americans to pay those bills. No, we're
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not going to do that. And then you have a
big one, as you know, let's have the drilling. Let's
go back to the drilling and create jobs and produce
revenue for the government. Sure, why I don't understand why
the Democrats are opposed to those things.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Let me ask you both, what impact does this have.
The poll show that Americans are in overwhelming numbers EJ
wanting fiscal responsibilities, So what impact does that have politically?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, I think it is definitely another thing in favor
of McCarthy and the reasonable measures he's trying to put
in place here. You know, I think it was Churchill,
Winston Churchill who said that you can always count on
the American people to do the right thing after they've
tried everything else. Well, over the last several years, we've
tried everything except fiscal restraint and fiscal responsibility on the
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part of the government. And what has that gotten us.
It has gotten us forty year high inflation, falling real wages.
We had an economy that already had two consecutive quarters
of negative growth. That's a recession. We're getting ready to
go into another recession, probably later this year. That makes
it a double dipper session. I mean, we can see
the results of the catastrophic results of excessive government spending,
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barring and printing of money. And I think the American
people are recognizing that and they're saying enough is enough.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It seems like over the weekend, things took a dramatic
turn for the worst because those negotiating on behalf of
Biden seemed to be giving into the left wing climate
alarmist religious cults that had been pushing back hard internally
Steve Moore for more spending. So they want more spending,
they don't want fiscal responsibility measures. And now that then
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also causes a risk to McCarthy. You know, McCarthy won
this vote in the House by two votes. He's got
to four vote margin. Now he doesn't need every Republican
to go along with with some type of compromise deal.
But if he compromises too much, I would argue that
it could trigger a vote to vacate in terms of
his speakership.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, I think Karki should not retreat at all here.
I mean, he really has Biden in a bind. He
has the only game in town. You mentioned the Green
New Deal. You know there's a I don't think a
lot of you know people know this, but there's a
three hundred billion Now it is, say three three hundred
billion dollar green energy slush fund that's being run by
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John Podesta, who's a political Democratic political hack, and that
money where do you think that money is going to
go Seohny is gonna it's gonna go to all these
left wing interest groups. Three hundred million dollars, that's the
three thousand Heritage Foundations. So Republicans are sparks to say, no,
we're not going to fund that. We're not going to
fund eighty seven thousand new i RIS agents that are
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going to come after people like EJ and me and
you Sean, because we have conservative voices and we know
that because they did under Obama. They politicize and weaponize
every branch of.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Government, well in every single department. They have money put
aside for green initiatives. EJ and this country can't afford it.
And by the way, nor does the technology exist. This
is the biggest problem that the climate alarmist religious cult has.
They don't have any replacement for fossil fuels, even their
precious electric vehicles. You have to pillage mother Earth to
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get the coal, bolt and the manganese and the nickel
and the other minerals that you're taking out of the Earth.
Number one, number two, ninety percent of our electric grid
when you go to plug in your electric vehicles based.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
On fossil fuels.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So you know, tell me how is how is that
differentiates itself from the combustion engine, which is fifteen to
twenty thousand dollars cheaper than than an electric vehicle car.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
And not only that, Sean, but they don't want us
to actually get any of those minerals and any of
those resources here, which means we're going to get them
from places like China and India, parts of Africa and
the Middle East and even Southeast Asia where they have
nowhere near the environmental protections that we do. And so
it's catastrophically damaging to the environment when they take those
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those things out of the ground in such an environmentally
unsafe way, whereas here we can do it in a
much safe way. But unfortunately, the regulators won't let us
get to those things at all. But even if you
did actually convert everything to electric, whether it's your stove
or whether it's your car, et cetera, you still haven't
answered the problem of how on Earth do you get
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the grid up to speed, the electrical grid so that
it can handle that much of an increase in load.
You're talking about a thousandfold increase in our requirements for
things like copper and aluminum just to get the grid
up to speed, not even including what you need to
build all of these electric devices themselves. And you're absolutely right,
they have no answer as far as hell on Earth,
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we're going to do any of.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
This quick break more on the economy. Steve Moore and
e j Antoni is with us. Eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn,
our number. If you want to be a part of
the program. Larry Elder at the top of the hour.
Many of you may not know that Larry's running for
president himself. We'll get to him. We'll get to your calls.
Hi twenty five to the top of the hour, eight
hundred and ninety four one, Shawn, you want to be
a part of the program before we get to our calls.
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You gotta love any moment that Peter Doocey gets to
question Joe Biden. This is Peter asking him about the
debt ceiling. Joe again, you know, missing in action, no negotiation,
no negotiation, no negotiation. The same guy as we've played
many times before in twenty eleven, saying it can't be
my way of the highway waits ninety seven days, betting
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that there's no way Republicans pass a bill in the House. Well,
they passed it, and it's actually fiscally responsible and raises
the debt ceiling. So if we have a default, it's
going to be Biden's default period.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
End of sentence. Anyway, here's him saying, not my fault.
I did everything I could do.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
Said already, of course, no will blame me. I know
you won't. You'll be saying Biden did a wonderful job.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I know you.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
On the merits, based on what I've offered, I would
be blameless. On the politics of it, no one will
be blameless. And by the way, that's one of the
that's one of the things that some are contemplating. I
actually had. Well, I gotta be careful here. I think
there are some maga Republicans in the House who know
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the damage that it would do to the economy. And
because I am president and president's responsible for everything, Biden
would take the blame. And that's the one way to
make sure Biden's not re elected.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
The worst thing you could do is continue to spend
money you don't have have. This would bring fiscal responsibility
into Biden's life, which would be good politically for him.
He gets to say, oh, I cut the deficit four
point eight trillion dollars one. Meanwhile, it's the House Republicans
that did it. All right, let's get to our phones.
Ron in South Carolina, Ron, how are you? What do
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you think of Tim Scott's announcement today?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Hey, Sean, I would say, right now, if we were
playing the game twenty one with Jim Scott and Nicky Haley,
we'd have a king and a queen running.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
That's a nice compliment, I think, right.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, Well, it's like I look at it the way
I would vote right now. If I could give you
my top four real quick, it would be Donald Trump,
Ron de Santez, Tim Scott, and Nicky Haley. And I
just feel like Donald Trump and Ron Decantez has given
us examples of where they haven't compromised at all. And
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when I look.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
At Tim Scott, my mind goes back to January sixth
and when they were in the process of of rejecting
the election or protests in the election. Because of January sixth,
all the senators k and there's some things when NICKI
Haley was governor, with all due respect to her, there
are just some things she did that troubled me that
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she said she wouldn't do. But that's kind of where
I'm spending out on that perspective.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So I think there's something about every candidate that everybody
could say that they'd like to change. I'm sure there's
things about me that if you could tell me, Hanna,
if you do this, I like your show more, what
would you tell me that you want me to improve
in the show? I'll take any criticism out.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Honestly, I can't think of it. You're one of the few,
You're one of the few guys out there that I
listened to on a consistent basis.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's very kind, But you know what, we're all open
to look, nobody's perfect.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Number one, let's start with that. Number Two.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I would argue today, and it is May twenty second,
and we're heading into Memorial Day weekend, that nobody knows
what issues are going to really be in play when
we get to November twenty twenty four, I would argue
that part. Now, that's why I'm saying in the interim,
Republicans need to get their act together, and they've got
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to get out with a campaign to get over people's reluctance,
resistance to early voting, voting by mail number one and
number two. They've got to get involved in legal ballot
harvesting efforts and match the efforts of the Democratic Party
and hopefully even surpass their efforts. I know I sound
like a broken record, but it's not getting done yet,
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and until it does, I'll keep squawking about it.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I agree with you one hundred percent, and I would
add this one too. We need to reduce the number
of candidates that we have running in the national election
after the primary is over. We need to see all
of our guys our gals get behind whoever the candidate is. Like,
I mean, you take away all those running in Pennsylvania
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and Arizona and Georgia and we have a different president. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Look, I think a lot of mistakes were made in
twenty twenty two. I think Democrats have figured out they've
taken the way they approach elections is so different than Republicans.
It's night and day, and we didn't really see it.
We didn't understand it, and COVID certainly accelerated all of this.
They don't shake hands, they don't kiss babies, they don't
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take selfies, they don't do town halls, they don't do
press avails, they don't even want a debate. They run
hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads and they
ballot harvest legally based on what this state law is.
And that's how they've been successful. And Republicans have allowed
them to get away with that, and they've not gotten
into that arena yet. And I'm saying, get in the arena.
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It's not the system I want. I want paper ballots.
Election Day to be a national holiday. I want partisan
observers and every precinct watching the voting all day and
when the polls closed, the counting all night and a
winner declared.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
That's what I want.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I agree with you one hundred percent on that because
I said, there's four things that God has been twenty
and you just hit on all four of them, with
the exception of complacent and compliant judges and politicians.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, I tell you right now, the one thing Republicans
do have. We have a good bench. We have a
good group of people that I think that you know,
can lead, and especially as time goes on, that's going
to be important.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Anyway, let me run ron.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Appreciate it, buddy, glad you're out there in South Carolina, Joe,
in the free state of Florida.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Joe. We expect your governor's going to announce this week.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Just fine?
Speaker 9 (18:30):
Thanks for having me on your show.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Sean, Well, I'm glad to have you. What's going on?
Speaker 9 (18:33):
Oh, I just wanted to say, you know, we're in
I'm in Jacksonville, Florida. I voted for Ron Desantus twice,
and I've voted for him to run the state of
Florida for eight years. You know, Florida is not a
stepping stone for your political ambitions, you know, to run
around the country for the next year and a half
and run for president.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And I believe that.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
All the rhinos and all the never Trumpers going to
line up behind Rawn and it's going to be political
suicide for him, and he's not going to be able
to run for nothing else after this.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Look, people have said this in the past. Anytime a
sitting politician runs for an office, there's always going to
be those saying, why don't you focus on the office
you have, et cetera. I get it, I understand it.
You know, it's I think he's done a great job
for the state of Florida. I really do. I think
he was the right guy. I think Trump's supporting it
was the right thing to do in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
But then he did.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
He did the job the people of Florida needed, and
that that was evident by the one point five million
vote margin that he had in the last election in
twenty twenty two. So, look, they're going to be they're
going to be critics of everybody, you know, but you
got to see how this process unfolds. I am telling
you right now. Is one thing I can say with certainty.
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Whatever issues we're voting on, the political conditions are going
to be very different than they are today.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
That I can tell you. And you know this this system.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It may not seem like you know, we're only five
hundred and twenty some odd days away from the twenty
twenty four November election. It's not that far away. It's
gonna go fast. It'll go in the flash of an eye.
Next thing we'll know it's the end of summer. I
know we're heading into a Memorial Day. I'm talking about
Labor Day already. H and then it's gonna be the spring,
and then it's gonna be the fall, and I'm sorry,
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not the spring. Then it's gonna be the fall, and
then it's gonna be winter. And here we go, Iowa,
here we come, and it starts from there.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
But another point. You know, they passed a good, a
good law here in Florida if you're gonna run for
another political office, you have to resign from the office
you have. Well, they turn around and change the law
just to fit Ron DeSantis, you know, and I think
that I just don't think that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
The people of Florida will absolutely weigh in on that
and decide for themselves. I mean, that's that's the way
it goes. I can't sit here and tell people what
to think or you know, you're expressing your views, and
you know, I just want good governance at the local level,
the state level, and the federal level, and we don't
have We don't have that in most places. Now you
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do have it in Florida, which is great for you,
but there's a lot of places you don't have it.
I'm pretty convinced that Governor Kemp of Georgia is going
to get into that would be a similar situation. I
think he thinks that he can be a player in this.
We'll see you know, time is going to tell, this
will take on a life of its own.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
You'll see.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Appreciate the call, my friend, God bless you. Eight hundred
and nine to FOURT one Seawn On Number Courtney, California,
Next Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
What's up Courtney? How are you hey?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Sean? Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
You bet, thank you. What's going on well with.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
The Durham report out now, it just appears that the
people at the very top of a lot of different
organizations knew that this from the very beginning. This was
just a political trick, and then they propagated it for
years and years, and a lot of people were damaged.
It ended careers, It hurt a lot of people besides
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the country as a whole. And it just would seem
to me that since this was such a hoax, that
maybe articles could be introduced in Congress for the expungement
of Trump's impeachment because it proves that there was just
no basis for that.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
There was no basis for it. As a matter of fact,
there was an interesting foxnews dot Com piece how Durham's
report shows Biden and Obama. They knew the truth of
Trump Russia Russia collusion being a hoax the whole time,
but they kept silent. And we know because in July
twenty sixteen, then CIA Director Brennan, who by the way,
had no problem pushing this himself, rushed to the White
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House to brief Obama and Biden about alarming new evidence
uncovered by American intelligence that the CIA had obtained reliable
information quote that Hillary Clinton had approved a campaign plan
to stir up a scandal against Donald Trump by tying
him to Putin and the Russians. Page eighty one of
the Durham Report. Take a look at it. It's pretty interesting.
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And you know, John Durham and explicably failed to compel
the testimony of people like Komi and McCabe and Struck
and others. You know, now we're discovering today FBI sur
balance abuse twenty three thousand searches for January sixth suspects
versus one hundred and thirty three searches for twenty twenties
anti cop rioters. That's five hundred and seventy four rioters.
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You know, the double standard is clear, can't be any
more clear than it is.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
But when you really think about it, their silence is
it's more it's morally reprehensible what they what they did,
and they kept propagating it, and that it's that's a
very sad thing because these people took an oath to
the constitution and to protect you know, the country, and
(23:58):
they're the ones that instigated it and propagated it and
spread this throughout and that's what's that's what's really sad,
and it's just it's just sad.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So it's sad, and it's also dangerous. The danger part
comes in with shredding our constitution and we have a
dual justice system, and we now have had the FBI
putting their cinder blocks on the scales of two presidential elections,
and now we know the CIA was involved and putting
their their cinder blocks on the scale of the last election.
(24:31):
It's and frankly, I would argue that you could say
two presidential elections with them too. This deep state is
pernicious and it exists and we better be careful anyway,
appreciate it. Thank you eight hundred and nine point one. Seawn,
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The Final Hour roundup is next. You do not want
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Speaker 1 (26:20):
Light Let's get back to our busy phones eight hundred
and ninety four one, Sean, if you want to be
a part of the program. Scott in Florida, Scott, how
are you glad you called?
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm good, sir. Happy Monday Memorial Day is coming. You've
got a long weekend straight ahead.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
I'm ready for it too, Hey, real quick, real quick.
A couple of things. One I hear when I listen
to you all the time, but I hear in your
voice exasperation, and I hear exasperation with two things. One
is kind of how can this administration be so inept,
(26:56):
so dom as to make some of the decision It's
just like waiting for the waiting for the dead ceiling
to you know, to crash, you know, But it's it's
it's you give them too much credits. They're not stupid there.
This is all by plan. They want this country to break.
(27:17):
They want the constitutional democracy, the republic that we have.
They want it to collapse, and everything they do is
to that end. It's not by acts. It's like whoops.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know, well, look the policies that they're adopting are
working against the country. You know, the policies at the border,
the policies on law and order, their energy policies, their
economic policies, their foreign policy. There's nothing that I can
point to and say that they're making good decisions on.
Do I think they're stupid? No, I think stupid is
(27:52):
the wrong word. Do I think that this is their
radicalism on display. Yeah, I think this is the direction
they want to take this country, and it is failing.
It is failing on a spectacular level. It is impacting
every American and it's only going to get worse the
longer it continues. It's really that simple. Do I think
(28:14):
it is an accident that they have open borders now
they can close the borders anytime they want. Is it
an accident that they believe in defund dismantle nobail laws. No,
they they're pushing them. Is it an accident that they
refuse to be energy dominant and energy independent? No, they're
they're giving into their climate alarmist religious cult and they're
insane ideas, which is destroying the economy. Do I believe
(28:38):
that this new Green deal everything's free and provided by
your government mentality is real? Yeah, they buy into all
of this crap and it's all ruining the country.
Speaker 10 (28:47):
Totally agree, you know. And another thing is, you know,
and I've picked up on this a long time ago
and been fact checked me everything, everything that I hear
left of center politically accusing anyone right of center of
is what left of center is doing, you know, the
(29:09):
accusation of collusion, the accusation of cheating, of rigging an election,
of all of these things. But basically, if I hear
the left accuse the right of doing something, that tells
me the left is doing it. Do you see that?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, in most cases, yeah, they're the ones. They're the
ones that were colluding. That wasn't you know? It was
Adam Schift that got punked by a you know, a
pony Russian comedian, right, it was you know, Hillary Clinton's
bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier anyway, I appreciate
it to call my friend eight hundred and ninety four
one Shawn. There's only one answer, and that's elections.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
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