Fanning the Flames Of Hate

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Thanks Scott Shannon, and thanks to all of
you for being with us. Glad draw on board right
down on a toll free number. It's eight hundred and
nine four one, Sean if you want to be a
part of the program. There's so much to talk about.
We have a couple of new police incidents that we're
going to discuss today, including the shooting death of a

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fifteen year old. Such a tragedy. You know, police officer
arrives on the scene and you look at this moment
and you don't really see the knife in real time.
She she's literally she's loaded and ready to plunge a
knife into another young girl, and the police officer to

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save the life of the girl that's unarmed, shot this girl.
We'll get into the politics of this in a minute,
because there is politics, of course with everything today, just
a lot of craziness out there. Anyway, Oh, in Minneapolis,
you're gonna love this. You have a city council cadate
publicly encouraging black lives matters rioters to burn down wealthy neighborhoods.

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If you feel like burning shift down to target wealthy
communities instead of the poor ones. She's gonna make a
great council member for many Minneapolis great. We had an
incident in Portland rioters smashing windows at a Starbucks. As
video footage of that. The police officer was surrounded and

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by the way, this is after guilty on all three
counts in the Derek Chauvin trial. It showed an officer
being surrounded and punched in the face by a masked
individual dressed in black. Oregonian newspaper posted the video reported
there had been a heated confrontation. The individual that punched
the officer in the phase could be seen, you know,

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apparently was in another with another officer on a bicycle.
Officer who was struck grabbed onto the individual as he fell,
and then other officers piled on. And it's just unbelievable. Now,
this case out of Columbus has gotten a lot of attention,

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and we're getting the usual, the predictable rush to judgment
thing going on again, which is never good for anybody
ever under any circumstances. And in this like Valerie Jarrett,
for example, tweeted out and I'll tell you the facts
of the case. In a second, a black teenage girl
named Macaiah Bryant was killed because a police officer immediately

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decided to shoot her multiple times in order to break
up a knife fight. Demand accountability. Okay, we have the
videotape here, Valerie Jarrett, we know what happened here. We
got the video from the BCAM footage video from the
Columbus Police Department. And yeah, it does show the officer

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firing shots to protect an innocent other teenager. You could
see literally the knife is in the hand when you
go frame by frame and you slow this down, and
I've now watched it many times, and frame by frame
she's about to plunge. She is loaded for a full

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on thrust of a knife into this other unarmed girl,
and that officer likely saved that girl's life and prevented
the stabbing of another person. Then, of course others rushed
to judgment. We got another case. I can't explain this.
This was in the New York Post. Their headline is

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at least nineteenagers shot at a twelve year old's birthday party.
There was sixty attendees and not one of them will
make a formal statement of what happened to the police
gunfire Around eight forty pm local time in Louisiana at
least nine kids struck under the age of eighteen. Seven

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of the nine victims were treated and released. Two victims
remain hospitalized. Can't believe nobody died when you have that
many people shot. Thank god it didn't happen. Investigators think
the shooting was the result of a dispute between two
groups of young males, that two guns were fired during
the shooting. In that case, of course, we have the

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Chicago mayor throwing the police under the bus, failing to
call out gang violence. In the case of this seven
year old little girl that was shot while going through
a McDonald's drive through. I mean, somebody's in Chicago's fifteenth
ward Alderman Raymond Lopez, and we interviewed recently said that
Mayor Laurie Lightfoot Lightweight has thrown police under the bus,

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failed to call out violence. You know, it's an interesting
phenomenon and I don't have a good answer for you.
And that is okay. So during the Biden Obama years,
we scroll the names of all these people being shot
and shot and killed in Chicago. Names you've never heard
of before. You know, last weekend it was twenty six

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people shot, five people dead. That by the way, that's
on the low end of a typical weekend out of Chicago,
and nobody knows the names of the five people. Nobody
knows the names of the twenty six people. Why does
some cases get all the attention in other cases do not?
With all this, these years of scrolling the names of

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lives lost and shootings that take place every weekend, you
would think that there would be some sense of urgency
to stop the violence. Does not. I don't see the
urgency at all, Not one bit do I see the urgency.
You know, it's it's just these unbelievable times we're living in.

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And then you get, of course, those that will politicize it,
like Valerie jarrett A. Valerie, take a look at the
watch it frame by frame. Now, as part of I've
talked a lot about my training. Now I'm in my
eighth year. I'm a student of martial arts. It's an
eclectic blend of arts. Kraabmagaw, kempo, Japanese jiu jitsu, boxing,

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situational street fighting. We use sticks, blades, firearms. And I've
said this before and people don't hear me, nor do
they really fully understand. If you ask anyone that's had
any training that'll understand what I'm about to say, and
what I'm saying is very specific, and that is if
I have a choice, if I had to defend myself

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close quarters keywords here are close quarters against a firearm
or a blade. I take the firearm every time, and
we practice situational self defense usually. You know, well, for example,
the gun will be held in front of me. You know,
you put your hands up and you try and strip

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it by getting the gun off line, breaking the finger,
assuming it's in the trigger, and then stepping back, you
tap rack and you put your four over three and
then you have the gun. Or if somebody puts it
at on my forehead, right at my forehead, you know,
what do you do if somebody puts a gun. But
first thing I'm gonna do it's quickly and it's now,
it's it's it's reflexes now because I do it, practice

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it almost daily, and I'm gonna push the gun up
in the air, turn it around, break their finger, jam
the gun into them, strip it, step back, tap rack
and four over three there. Or if it's at my back,
you know, first thing I want to do is I'll
take it up quickly. You move a hand, you get
the gun offline, you fight the man, break the finger,

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strip the gun, and step back, and now you have
the firearm. It takes a lot of skill and a
lot of repetitive training to get there, and I wish
cops had more time to do all of this. They don't.
That's why I say, Okay, more training is needed. You know,
there was somebody that tweeted out a knife fight is
when two people are fighting with knives. When one person

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is trying to use a knife on an unarmed person,
it's often called an attempted stabbing or attempted murder. Well, yeah,
I would say that that's true. How this police officer
actually reacted that quickly probably saved somebody's life. You know,
a knife is a lethal weapon by every legal definition,

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and it's simple common sense. By the way, defending against
the knife is much harder at close quarters keywords close
quarters then defending against somebody with a firearm. I like
my odds better going up against the firearm, because you know,
if somebody I mean you could do if you know
how to use a blade, or if you're about I

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mean this, This fifteen year old girl was literally loaded up,
had the knife cranked back for a full on, powerful
thrust of that knife into that other unarmed girl. I
don't think that girl would have survived if that was
a successful attack. But of course you're you know, the
usual people rushed to judgment, and you have a top

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Obama advisor demanding that the copy held accountable. He saved
another teenager from being stamped to death. I mean, it's
unbelievable to me that rushed to judgment. That's Valerie Jarrett.
And you have Joe Biden out there insulting everyone in
the country. And I'll say up front, are there people

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in this country that are ignorant, that have evil in
their heart, that are racist? Yeah, of course there are. Yeah,
evil exists. There are dumb, ignorant, stupid people that are racist.
There are, But that's not the majority that American people.
Most Americans are not racist. Most Americans deploy racism. Have

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we made progress? Yeah, we made a lot of progress.
No thanks to Joe Biden's friends or Joe Biden himself.
To be very frank, you know, we had a civil
war that we fought in this country. Did we forget
that part? You know, if you look at the the
underground railroad Harriet Tubman's life. There were many people that

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were also white that helped free slaves and fought a
war to free slaves and end the evil of slavery.
And then of course we have the sixty four Civil
Rights Act, the sixty five Voting Rights Act. Yeah, that
was felowbustered by the guy that Joe Biden praises, the
former clansmen, Robert KKK Bird, the same Robert Bird, former

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clansmen that Joe Biden partnered with to stop the integration
of schools because Joe said he didn't want our schools
to become racial jungles. Now now he's out there lecturing
the American people, accusing the United States of deep seated
systemic racism, and you know, literally praising the conviction and

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saying that guilty verdict is too rare, that the systemic
racism that sustained on our nation's soul. This coming from
the guy that didn't want integration to schools, a partnered
with a clansman and praised the former clansmen. Good grief.
These are the times we live in. And then you
have this madness moving forward of defunding and dismantling. Now

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the police that is being pushed by many. We had
a couple of incidents. One was in New York last night.
We had Black Lives Matter protesters telling white people dining
outside to get the f out of New York. And
that was not the only example where that happened last night.

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Happened at where was the other one? I forget oh,
outside the Minneapolis courthouse. All all cops are bastards and
get the f out. And the same thing at this
New York restaurant tell white people to get the f
out of New York. Wow. But is that the majority
of the black No, it's not. It's a small minority

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of people that believe this. Think this way sad when
you hear it. By the way, Joe Biden, the author
of the ninety four crime bill, you know when he
called young African American men predators. Now we're gonna listen
to him and get lectured by him on systemic racism.
We got another video showing a pipe wielding you know,

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suspect shot by police in Illinois. You know one thing
I will say that these bodycams are giving us a
perspective we never had before. We've been calling for those
for years. Biden called the violent riots over the summer
that he never addressed that Kamala Harris says is not
going to stop and shouldn't stop, and beware and take

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note on both levels. They're not going to stop. They
shouldn't stop. We're not going to stop, but we shouldn't stop.
And he talked about those riots causing billions of dollars
in damage and three thousand cops hurt and dozens dead.
He called them, you know, a peace with a purpose. Now,
that wasn't peace with a purpose. A riot is a riot,

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insurrection is insurrection. It was wrong what happened on January sixth,
It was wrong what happened last summer. Why is that
so hard for some people to, you know, call something
out for what It is not that hard for us
here on this show. The truth is the truth, period
eight hundred ninety four one sewn if you want to
be a part of the program. Most Americans hate ignorant people.

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That's how most Americans are right as we roll along,
eight hundred nine pot one Sean this announced. ABC News
reporting Joe Biden's Attorney General, Merrick Garland, has announced an
investigation into the Minneapolis Police Department to determine whether it's
infected with systemic racism. Now, the last time the Minneapolis

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PD was put under a microscope after George Floyd's death,
the cops were handcoffed, handcoff literally trapped, they stopped working.
Trap Remember the whole defund the police movement. Remember the
precinct was burned to the ground. There. That's Kamala Harris
supporting the bail fund to get rioters out of jail. Anyway,
the homicide rate then skyrocket at sixty four percent, and

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one plus one equals two. If you don't have police,
you're going to see what we're seeing nationwide. Nationwide, it's
almost forty percent an increase in homicides around the country
in some cities where they've defunded the police, but it's
much higher, including Minneapolis, including Louisville, including Los Angeles, where

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Kamala Harris praised the fund effort out there. I mean,
this is a I'm just trying to understand it. It
doesn't make sense. Now, Rudy Giuliani, you may not like
his politics, forget it. You can't deny he saved a
lot of innocent people's lives with tough policing and he

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sent cops and used resources wherever there was the greatest
need at any given time. New York City is a
big place, and it's small, but it's a lot of people.
All right, We got a lot of other news. We
will get to all things. Bill O'Reilly, Sergeant Penny will
join us. Reverend cl heavy Foot Bryant, Remember he says,

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he invokes Jesus to get out of a ticket. Cracks
me up. We'll continue twenty five till the top of
the hour, eight hundred and nine for one sean, if
you want to be a part of the program. I
don't think it was a factor in this case. It's
gonna be interesting when the judge excoriated Maxie Waters for
her comments leading up to the jury making their decision,

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which can be viewed as extremely intimidating. And look only
it was the case here if you asked me what
convicted Derek Chauvin, the two biggest factors with the nine
minutes and twenty nine seconds of videotape and and I
do think it was very powerful the images. I'd never
seen them before until the day after closing arguments of

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the New York Post of the injuries that George Floyd sustained. Now,
Michael Boden had mentioned it when we interviewed him at
the time. He did one of the autopsies of George Floyd.
And you know, you see how badly bruised George Floyd's
face was from having the knee, you know, pushing his

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face into the pavement. I mean the industry, the injuries
were substantial. The same with his shoulder being pushed into
the pavement. Now that's the amount of force. Again, go
back to my martial arts as a student training. You know,
if a quick, quick, targeted strike to the jaw and

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the carroated artery, I promise you if I if I
hit the target, you're gonna go down. One shot. You'll
go to the ground, and if you try to stand
up you'll likely won't be able to stand up for
a while. You'll be just because it's it's that effect
of a shot that's a fraction of a second. So
I think between the nine minutes and twenty nine seconds

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and the testimony that this is not what the way
officers are trained by the chief of Police, I think
it was a done deal. But I will say this
going forward, is that we can't have juries going into
a jury room if we believe in due process, we

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believe in the presumption of evidence innocence, rather and have
them it feel some type of intimidation from the outside,
you know it often. I wonder why they don't do
this more often, But I am a big supporter of

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change of venue for high profile cases for very specific reasons,
and they didn't do it in this particular case. Now
people like Alan Dershowitz are saying, hey, he's likely gonna
win on appeal, and it'll be interesting to see if
that is brought up, and we're gonna watch that closely.
We had on last night Jonathan Turley. He made an
observation that I hadn't thought about, is you still have

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these other officers that were involved in the case. They
didn't have their knee on George Floyd's neck, but there
are charges pending against them and literally the prosecution and
made the point that they tried to help George Floyd.
And I wouldn't be surprised if if those words, if

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they were to go to trial, if this thing goes
to trial, they don't come to some type of agreement,
if that would be used against the prosecution their own words.
So we'll have to We'll have to wait, watch and
see what happens there. You know, you just go back
and you look at Joe Biden praising the former clansmen
stopping integration of schools with Robert Byrd, you know, the

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guy that filibustered the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act.
You know, they didn't want schools to become integrated because
they didn't want schools to be racial. Jungles Joe Biden's words,
Joe Biden a crime bill. You know, predators on the
streets that Joe Biden. Now I just find what's sad

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is most of the country does not know this because
Joe Biden was in first the candidate production program of
the media mob big Tech, and now he's in the
presidential protection program from the media mob and big tech
and everybody else. But I'll tell you none of this
is going to end well. And you know Biden if

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he wants to make allegations of systemic racism and it
being a state on our nation's soul, John Cornyn said
it was a verdict against one officer based on individual
facts in one case. I accept the verdict. No need
to slander law enforcement generally in the vast majority of
police officers that risked their lives every single day. Secretary

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of State Blincoln echoes Biden's comments, and remember, they've already
begun their own little version of the apology tour that
Obama had. Now Biden wants critical race theory, will spend
some time on this in the future. And the sixteen
nineteen project taught in schools. So now that's going to
become a big issue in the country. You know. Joe Biden,

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author of the ninety four crime Bill, says we've got
to confront head on disparities in the justice system. A
lot of it is because of that bill. It doesn't
matter whether or not they're the victims of society. The
end result is they're about to knock my mother on
the head with a lead pipe, shoot my sister, beat
up my wife, take on my sons. So I don't

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want to ask what made them do this. They must
be taken off the street. We should focus on them now,
not out of a liberal instinct for love, brother and humanity,
although I think that's a good instinct, but for simple
pragmatic reasons. If we don't, they will, or a portion

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of them will become the predators fifteen years from now,
and Madam President, we have predators on our streets. You know,
if you want to go to the twilight zone part
of this. You know, Biden yesterday praising the Summer of love,
the autonomous, the chaz the chop spaghetti, potluck, dinner zones.

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We had city streets, entire city blocks taken over by
anarchists and by radicals taking over police precincts, burning police
precincts to the ground. We had almost three thousand officers injured,
dozens and dozens of people murdered last summer, you know,
saying that this that last summer's protests, which he barely

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addressed in the middle of a campaign, ignored, didn't even
mention it once at the DNC his choice for vice president.
By the way, it was critical of Joe Biden on
the issue of race and and it really took him
down under debate. But supporting a bail fund for arrested rioters.

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This was after the police precinct was burned down to Minneapolis,
you know. So he you know, he's now saying that
it unif find people of every race and generation in
peace and in purpose. What is he trying to say here,
that's revisionist history. You're ignoring the rioting that took place
in all these major cities last summer, with all these

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injured cops and all these injured people trying to you know,
tell us that, oh, they're mostly peaceful protests. No, they weren't.
I don't even know what to say about Nancy Pelosi
quote thanking George Floyd for dying. I you know, people
say whatever, I'm not even gonna go there. Minneapolis as
mayor now giving you know, saying he he his life

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bettered our city. There's not a lot of good that
came out of this. While the officer responsible it's being how,
it's been held accountable and will be held accountable. He's
still not he's still dead. It's tragic, it's sad. It
was unnecessary, especially knowing everything that we know, and then

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people on the left, you know, AOC and others, the
squad saying the decision didn't go far enough. You know.
I'm basically say, Joe Biden celebrates some justice, AOC calls
conviction not enough, you know, and it goes on from there.
The squad, by the way, we found out recently they

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spend thousands of dollars on private security for themselves while
demanding police be defunded. I've yet to hear any congressman
or woman talk about disbanding, defunding, dismantling the Capitol Police.
Not one I see. Gavin Nussoun's wife has weighed in

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blaming toxic masculinity for what happened to George Floyd. Okay.
House Democrats standing right by Maxie Waters. I'm telling you
the radicals in the squad, Maxie Waters, they're in charge
in the House of Representatives. Nancy Pelosi scared to death

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of the most radical elements on her party because she
knows her jobs on the line if she dares goes
against them. And that's why they don't. Same with Chuck Schumer.
He's scared to death. AOC will run against him for
the Senate. He might even lose, and he knows it.
Joe Biden, I don't even know if he knows what

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day it is. Anyway, eight hundred nine for one, Shaun
is our number if you want to be a part
of the program. Talked about this case. I mean I
looked so often at this case out of Columbus, and
it was so obvious. A lot of people asking what
will the sentence be. I don't know. They're gonna have

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this whole discussion about whether or not this case would
warrant a higher sentence than the possible forty years that
that Chauvin is facing in prison. That's gonna be discretionary,
but they will have a hearing on it. The ultimate
sentencing takes place in eight weeks. You know, it was interesting.

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Foxnews dot Com had a piece about Derek Chauvin's verdict.
What's next for the three officers charge with aiding and
abetting George Floyd's death. Well, now that Derek Chauvin has
been convicted, now that the prosecution actually said that the
other officers involved, the other three officers tried to help
George Floyd, I'm not sure what impact that might have

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on their case. Alan dersh Wood saying that Chauvin's conviction
should be reversed on appeal. He's saying that hardly a
conservative anyway. We have other news here too. Nancy Pelosi
is facing a backlash for her comments of thanking George
Floyd for sacrificing his life for justice. AOC's actual words says,

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Derek Chauvin's guilty verdict is not justice, declaring that it's
not enough. I just want I want to create the
affirmation this is not well, what would be justice? Then?
What would how would she define justice in this case?
Congresswoman to Leaves comments inherent that police are inherently racist

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to Detroit's police chief has responded saying that is reckless
and disgusting. The House voted down the resolution, condemning Maxie
waters remarks prior to jury sequestration, I think they should
have been There should have been sequestration much earlier. Black
Lives Matter, one of their leaders, has credited the riots

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for forcing this verdict, the head of the New York
chapter of BLM claiming last night that the jury would
never have found Chauvin guilty without months of violent riots.
So now that that's the answer, we're going to intimidate
people and intimidate juries into coming up with decisions. I
don't believe that happened in this case. I think the
evidence was incontrovertible, overwhelming. Nine minutes and twenty nine seconds,

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and the police chief saying this is not part of
our training. That was it? Right there? Andy McCarthy's saying,
Biden and Waters, they've given Derek Chauvin's lawyers a real
chance to overturn the verdict. He's not wrong here, I
don't think Dershowitz, there is a real chance. Dershowitz even
predicting that the verdict will be reversed. He says, by

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the Supreme Court, they'd have to take up the matter.
So we'll have to wait and see what happens there.
You know, it's some things are just very frustrating on
a lot of different levels. So Joe Biden, with his
background and his history, you know, when you compare Delaware's
voting laws to the new law and Georgia, well, Georgia
has seventeen days of early voting. The state of Delaware

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has none. Georgia has in every precinct drop boxes, Delaware
has none. Both states require picture ID. So how does
he get away with saying three times that this is
Jim Crow two point zero. By the way, Biden now
has joined the effort for DC statehood. He's pushing that.

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Biden now is preparing to unveil another one trillion dollars
in spending two hundred and twenty five billion paid leave
and medical leave, two and twenty five billion for childcare support,
two hundred billion for universal pre K schooling, hundreds of
billions in new education funding for his friends in the unions,

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and other sums for nutritional assistance. Do you notice one
thing every one of those items have in common. That's
all in the Green New Deal, all of it. Just
like the emergency COVID relief money went to start as
a down payment funding the Green New Deal. Just like
the infrastructure bill, A lot of the money is that

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they're calling call everything infrastructure. Now, that's all going to
the Green New Deal. You know. The New York Post
had an editorial today It's time for people to turn
down the temperature and actually lead here. Has anybody on
the left thought about the consequences of defunding the police.
Are they not looking at the high murder rates all
across the country since this started, Because if they don't

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start looking, more innocent people are going to die, and
a lot of them, sadly, will be in cities that
are run by liberal Democrats. By the way, his rich
democratic friends they're fighting now. I told you that when
Donald Trump's tax plan went into effect, it hurt me financially.
I paid more in taxes. Why they have something called

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salt state and local tax deductions. Donald Trump put it
down at just ten percent. That's all you could deduct. Now,
all these rich liberals, they're now demanding that Biden allowed
the deduction for states that have high income taxes and

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local income taxes like New York City. I am saying
it's not fair to the rest of the country. I
would be the beneficiary of this, and I'm saying, don't
do it. It's not fair to states that elect fiscally
responsible legislatures and governors. It's not fair. It's just wrong,
all right. Let it's get A simpleman means only one thing,
and that is all things. Bill O'Reilly dot com, mister O'Reilly, sir,

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these are insane times we're living in, Bill O'Reilly, and
I'd never thought in my life things would get this crazy,
but it's it's worse than I even predicted before the election.
You know what really deserves me as an American, not
as a commentator, just as a person who loves a country,

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is that the American people aren't being told the truth.
And so I've spent the last thirty six hours really
researching and finding out the facts about the police and
African Americans because I think people don't know really what

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has happened because you have a media invested in putting
a narrative out there, and now the president and Vice
President of the United States are backing up the narrative
that this is a racist country and the eighty thousand
law enforcement people here are actively trying to harm marginalized groups,

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including African Americans. That's the narrative. So if you're a
young African American student, that's what you're hearing, and you're
not hearing much to counter that, So fire away. I've
got all the stats in the facts right here. So
here's where I am with policing and where we are

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in society, because you know, if we're going to be
truly one people, if Martin Luther King's dream speech, judge
people by the content of their character, color of their skin,
as it relates specifically to policing, these are the things
I think need to be done. Now. You know, I'm
a student of martial arts. I do it four or

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five days a week, an hour and a half a
day for eight years. I'm a student. We got a
better train cops. Number one. Number two, police need other
non lethal alternatives besides the taser. There are better there
are options out there. I've been showing them on TV three.
We have got to make every city and every town

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in America safe and secure. It's got to be a priority,
and it's got to be the police working with the
community before incidents happen. And I don't care if you
like Rudy Giuliani's politics or not. He took the murder
rate from nearly three thousand down to a few hundred.
That we do know how to solve this problem, but

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it's going to take a commitment on everybody, and all
of this political noise and rhetoric has got to stop, Bill,
because look at the cop. A woman was about to
be stabbed yesterday in Cleveland, Ohio. You see the knife
in her hands. She's about to plunge it into somebody. Now,
I train, I do a lot of situational self defense

(34:15):
with firearms, knives, and sticks. And I'll tell you at
close range, very specific words, at close range, I'd rather
go up against a firearm than a blade, especially if
somebody knows how to use it, because it's much harder
to defend against. Bill, and the cop had to shoot
to save a woman's life. A knife will kill you

(34:35):
your thoughts. Well, remember one, we're never going to work
together in the foreseeable future in this country because one
party wants to attain power through identity politics that means equity,
and then President of United States said it, we're going
to favor one group over another. That's what we're gonna do.

(34:59):
And we're gonna put the a coalition together of the
willing to vote for Democrats, so that leaves out everybody
who's not a Democrat. So that's not we're not working
together for anything. The secondly, we're not telling the truth
about the policing in America. So this is from the
Washington Post database. The Washington Post does a good job

(35:23):
compiling police statistics. So in twenty nineteen, unarmed white citizens
twenty six were shot black twelve. In twenty twenty twenty
four white citizens blacks eighteen. So therefore, two years doing

(35:46):
the math, thirty blacks were shot by police who were
unarmed fifty whites. Now, in most of those cases there
are other weapons involved, just as you pointed out in Columbus,
Ohio with the knife. Okay, Now, that is not an
epidemic of police shooting blacks in America. It's not. It's not.

(36:06):
In fact, if you were to present this to the
United Nations compared to other countries, this would be a
loutable record. Yet you don't hear any of this. All
you hear from the media, which is driving this, okay,
is that systemic racism is the cause of African Americans

(36:29):
being abused by the police. Right you with me so far,
I'm listening. Everything is now, by the way, No, wait,
we both acknowledge that there is racism, but systemic racism
is a different term. I'm listening. Go ahead and go ahead, okay.
Everybody knows that there's racism in every country. There are bad,
evil people on the planet, and skin color, it transcends

(36:51):
all skin colors. But what happened yesterday with the President
of the United States is unprecedented. Joe Biden rashed his
own country after the verdict came in and said this
has got to stop. We have systemic racism. Now, everyone
in the world heard that, and every African American heard it.

(37:14):
That has never been done by any president before. Never. Now,
we tracked Barack Obama's statements while in office for eight years.
He never said anything close to that. After he left office,
he said a few provocative things. Now, the president of
the United States is basically trashing the whole society by saying, hey,

(37:42):
we know that we're racist and we have to solve
this problem. Well, I'm sorry, but that insulted me. I'm
not a racist, nor are my friends, nor are my
family members. And I don't want this guy exploiting the
death of George Floyd, who should be alive today. And

(38:07):
the reason that the former police officer was convicted was
because of a very simple concept, depraved indifference. That's what
led to the conviction. And it's absolutely true he was
indifferent Chavin to what Floyd was experiencing on the ground,

(38:30):
and because Floyd died, that's depraved indifference. Now, I'm a
methodical researcher. I am a simple man. As you always
point out, I know the truth about it. By the way,
you're not a simple man, and I say that it
doesn't ironed to that whole fit we do, But go ahead.
I don't knew wance this. When I was a high

(38:53):
school teacher, I had African American students, a Cuban students,
white students, and I told them all, life is hard
if you're black, it's harder if you're Cuban and your
parents came over here from Cuba because I was teaching
in Miami. It's hard, but you'll all have an opportunity

(39:17):
here which you wouldn't have anywhere else on the planet.
So we got to work together to make the society better.
But when you have a president trashing his own country
the way Joe Biden did yesterday, I just I just
when are you kidding? And I'm not making an excuse

(39:39):
for Biden, but he doesn't know what he's saying. He
doesn't understand the implications of what Let me disagree with
you and let me add to the discussion a little bit,
because then this is important that we have it, and
it's important we have it with people of all backgrounds
and racism my opinion, When, for example, you compare the
new joy voting law that has seventeen days of in

(40:03):
person early voting, the state of Delaware has zero bill.
When you look at drop boxes, they are in every
county in Georgia. Bill, there's not one drop box in
the state of Delaware. Voter ID is mandated in Georgia
and in Delaware, and Joe Biden then went out there
and said and lied and said, this is Jim Crowe

(40:26):
two point zero, Jim Crowe for the twenty first century.
He said it three times, Bill, Now it's not Jim Crowe.
This is also coming from a man that praised the
former Clansmen, partnered with the former Clansmen to stop the
integration of schools in America because he didn't want schools
to become, his words, racial jungles. This is the guy

(40:48):
that co sponsored the Crime Bill in ninety four when
he talked about young African Americans as predators. That's the
Joe Biden, you know, the Joe Biden praising the guy
that philipbustered the Civil Rights Act of sixty four and
the Voting Rights Act of sixty five. Bill, I'll give
Biden the benefit of the doubt that he's evolved and

(41:11):
he's woke. I don't care what he said as a senator.
I don't carry hunger. Any Republican get the benefit of
the doubt. O'reet the benefit of the doubt? Hell, now,
of course not. But I'm a fair man, and I
look at I look at my job as analyzing the
news on radio and TV on Bill O'Reilly dot com,

(41:31):
I look at it as an obligation, and my obligation
is to tell the truth about what's happening now. And
what Joe Biden did yesterday was disgraceful, and again, no
other president has ever come close to saying anything like that.
And the damage that he is doing to this country.

(41:54):
And you know, I'm into the border or the Supreme
Court or Washington, DC. All of this is just insane.
But people don't know it because the narrative coming out
of the corporate media, the powerful corporate media, is that

(42:14):
Biden is noble, the country is racist, and that the
Democrats are gonna save African Americans from that racism. That
is the narrative that you see every single day, you know,
unless we get to the point, you know, one glorious
nation under God, one people, United Americans. Look, I'm a Christian.

(42:41):
I was raised Catholic like you are, but I'm non
denominational at this point in my life. And you and
I've had that discussion. And I know you went to
Catholic schools for years. I went to Catholic schools for
twelve years, Okay, a long time. And if you really
believe in natural law, what is natural law that rights
come from odd. We're endowed by our creator, natural rights,

(43:03):
not from government. And we believe the word education in
the Latin Bill, I learned a pious which you probably
didn't learn in shamand it means a ducree to bring
forth from within. Now. I know a lot of people
think you got to jam things into kids heads, but
that suggests to me that talent is God given and

(43:26):
every human being is born of God. But human beings,
through their experiences have a propensity towards good and a
propensity towards evil. A lot of evil people sadly in
this world people, but we're still created by the same God.
We still have talents and abilities. Now, if Republicans want

(43:46):
to get smart and change the electorate forever, they need
to go into all of these blue states, all of
these blue cities that have that don't have law and
order and safety and security, have horriblecational systems and fix them.
And I believe then everybody will benefit. That's the answer.

(44:07):
It's not redistributional wealth. That's not you know, it's believing
in the talent of every individual. The problems are fixable.
They are when you have a giant propaganda machine that
is unprecedented. You have powerful corporations with billions of dollars

(44:31):
spewing out the same message every day that America is evil,
it was founded on white supremacy. That is going to
infect a large portion of the population. They are going
to believe it. And that's what is happening. And people

(44:52):
on the other side who do believe America is a
noble nation, they've got to stand up and start to
oppose this because it has taken deep root. All right,
Bill O'Reilly, all things o'reiley, Uh, simple man, Bill o'reiley
dot com. All right, mister O'Reilly, we'll have you back

(45:15):
next week and I'll make more fun of you and
you can make fun of me. Yeah, it'll be lighter
next week. And remember killing the mob out in two weeks.
Oh that's right. By the way, why didn't I get
my copy yet? No, I'm you gotta copy handyway, I
did not get a copy. I did not get my copy.
Send me a copy of it like you what come on?

(45:37):
No idea. And by the way, don't expect a cupcake
interview when that book comes out. You're not getting a
cupcake interview. I'm giving you a non cupcake interview. One
of my book was coming out, Hannity, there's not gonna
be a typical cupcake interview. I'm like, oh, okay, I
gotta i gotta worry about my interview with o'reiley because
it's not cupcake. You're not getting a cupcake interview past o'reiley.

(45:59):
Alight eight hundred nine for one seawan toll free telephone number.
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We'll get to your calls. Final hour of the program today.
What I see going on around the country, what we're watching,
what we're witnessing, what we're hearing, beyond what we just

(46:21):
discussed about Joe Biden and America being racist, etcetera, etcetera.
Defund the police, dismantle the police, all of this madness
that's not going to end well. We've given you all
the statistics we can possibly dig up in terms of
the murder and homicide rates. It's up dramatically on average

(46:41):
around the entire country as a result of these this
defund dismantled police, and madness. It's getting crazy. In Minneapolis,
we have a city council candidate publicly encouraging Black Lives
Matter rioters who feel like burning shift down to target
wealthy communities instead of poor ones. In other words, encouraging

(47:04):
rioters burned down wealthy neighborhoods In Portland. I spoke about
this earlier rioters in the wake of the verdict he
was guilty on all three counts in the Derek Chauvin trial.
They started a fire and attacked businesses late last night,
and video footage showed two Starbucks in the downtown area

(47:26):
damaged and ANTIFA symbol was spray painted on one of
the broken windows. Cops killed, stolen land, scrawled on buildings, Starbucks.
Of course, they didn't want to respond to what happened there.
During the evening, A crowd starting a dumpster fire near
Justice Center, blocking traffic. A person dressed and all blacked

(47:50):
and punched a police sergeant in the face, punched a
cop in the face. We see this now all the time.
I'm listening to the comments of people on the left.
I've watched this, I promise you. This Columbus police officer
and this video in real time and then slowed down
frame by frame and you can see that the officer

(48:14):
that shot this young fifteen year old girl, the girl
literally had a knife in her hand. Knives kill people.
How the cop reacted that quickly to save the other
girl's life, It's heroic. It's a dangerous job. This is
what they're dealing with every single day. You got nine
of the teens shot at a twelve year old birthday party,

(48:35):
and not one of the sixty attendees will make a
formal statement, well, what is wrong with that? Pictures on
the blaze today, nine kids shot at a twelve year
old birthday party. Not one, not one adult will talk
to the police about it. Ohio police officer. You know,
in this case with the knight, he probably saved the
girl's life. I said it earlier, I'll say it again.

(48:55):
I'm saying very specific words here up in other words,
closed quarters, closed quarters. Let me repeat close quarters. I
would much rather deal with a firearm and defend against
that then somebody that's about to plunge a blade into me.
Now maybe you think that sounds crazy, No, because I practice,

(49:19):
you know, stripping weapons. You get the gun offline, you
fight the man, you break the guy's fingers, assuming it's
in the on the trigger. You strip the gun, you
step back, you tap rack, and you put more fingers
over three fingers, and then you have the gun. It's
much harder to defend against the blade. Anyway. We have
the bodycam audio of the police in this incident. Let

(49:43):
me play that. Then the bodycam audio police shooting a
pipe wielding suspect in Illinois and the Antifa thugs punching
a cop in Portland. Listen, get down sheriff's department. Try

(50:24):
try it, try it, try it out, dry summer on
your pen you joe ya try try talk said go now,

(50:49):
do you got that happens knees yo? Okay, joop okay,
get about him? You tell me in my mind, you
touch it in you touch me? You text me, dude here, don't.

(51:10):
Steve's been declared it back up. I want you buy

(51:41):
that light. You're good? Back here? They never all right?
Joining us now. Sergeant Demitrick Penney is back with us.
Twenty one year vet Dallas Police Force, President of the
Texas National Falling Officer Foundation, Eric Feinberger with US communications
director for the National Fallen Officer Foundation, Thank you both

(52:05):
for being with us. UH now Sergeant Penney. I frankly
looked at that Columbus tape again and again and again
and what I saw and when you when you when
you go frame by frame and you see that knife
about to be plunged into this other girl and the
officer shooting the person that could have very well been

(52:25):
committing a murder there, depending where that knife went in.
I look at that as the police officer saving an
innocent person's, an innocent, unarmed person's life from what could be,
you know, a death blow. Yeah, let me first day show.
My heart goes out to the family. I mean you
can imagine, I agree, kids fifteen years old, what the

(52:49):
hell is going on here? Yeah? Yeah, But just imagine
on the law enforcement side, when when officers had to
be in that situation to have to make that flit
second decision talking and that reaction there. Look, that also
did a great job in preventing the other young lady
the other team, which looked like to me, from being killed. Um.

(53:09):
Look that that is a devastating situation for any police
officer to be in. But but look I have to
applaud the officer for being able to react to the
chaos in itself, for what was happening with the fight,
but being able to prevent this other young lady from
you losing her life. That is a terrible situation for
anyone to be in. But this officer, I think that

(53:31):
that um his response time to be able to react
the way that he did. Um Man, I mean that
there there was really no option for this for his offer,
and I doubt this officer, and I honestly it's sad.
It's tragic. It's a fifteen year old girl. Why is
a fifteen year old girl about to plunge a knife

(53:52):
into another another girl? The whole thing makes me sad.
But on the other hand, if the cop didn't act,
that girl very well could have been dead. Sergeant, do
you agree with me? You know about my training, We've
talked about it privately. Yeah, when I say close quarters,
I'd rather go up against the firearm than a blade,
especially if somebody knows how to use that blade. Do

(54:14):
you agree with me or disagree? You are absolutely correct
because that blade and they teach us in training. Look,
it only takes about about one maybe maybe point seven
seconds to close the gap with a knife and also
has no reaction time whatsoever. So um, yeah, I mean,
at least you have a little bit with a gun,
you got time to get distance or get away from

(54:36):
from the thread at least. But man, a knife if
in close waters man, that is um. I mean I
literally practice, okay, gun being held up my face, a
gun literally held up my chest, a gun held up
my back, gun held to my neck. I mean we've practice,
you know, first again, get the gun offline, fight the man,
strip the gun, break the fingers, step back, tap rack

(54:58):
four over three. Sound like training heard before? Absolutely, absolutely, yeah,
that's that's that's definitely similar training to law enforcement. I mean,
the goal is to get it off of you and
and uh and in many cases take the gun and
you put you in charge of in the situation. But
what a knife is that a lot It's a lot
harder to do because now you have to you have
them to avoid the blade itself, and then you're trying

(55:20):
to take that blade. You could potentially end up cutting
the major artery, you know, get stabbed. I mean it
could be. I follow all the laws in New York.
I have a carry permit, and I carry only legal
blades that are allowed in New York. Eric Feinberg, your
take on this officer and all of these incidents now
that are occurring around the country. Well, Sean, thanks for

(55:41):
having me on. And Tray and I've been talking about
this and you know, we want to get more of
a voice on this. A lot of amps up because
of social media, um I said, with Trey on Facebook
a hashtag will prosecute the police on two Facebook pages
that actually, you know, brought attention to this from the
standpoint that it's the police's fault with the hastagg prosecute

(56:04):
the police, acab all cops are bad or you know whatever.
Thirteen twelve and then of course f twelve and to
get at the root of the problem and why you know,
Trey asked me to come on today. And part of
our mission after Dallas Fallen Officers in the fall Officers
campaign is to really show, unfortunately how the role of
social media is with this anti police, you know, pro

(56:26):
left agenda that the social media companies tend to turn
a blind eye to a final moment with Sergeant Penney
and Eric Feinberg, you know the thing, the thing is
all right, so now the verdict comes in and then
still people are out there complaining. Dmitrich Penney and sergeant.
I'm I'm a little bit bewildered and frustrated by it

(56:47):
because the system worked. It's not a perfect system, but
but it's the best system we that I can think of.
I can't think of a better one, you know, one
that ensures justice. But you know, it's sometimes it doesn't
work out that way, especially when things go to a jury.
You just never know what's gonna happen in that jury room.
But when they came back in less than twenty four hours,

(57:08):
it was clear whether this was headed right right. I mean,
you know what the thing is, sean law enforcement across
the country agrees that with how this this case in
itself will handle. You know, they took care of it.
We got a conviction. But the reality is there are
a lot of people in there are a lot of
people in society. They simply they don't care about any

(57:28):
find That was never about a finding in the case.
They're just anarchists. They only want to do is in
sight balance against police. It's about creating destructures. It's about
disrupting our our system as as a whole. And that's
that's what we're dealing with on the front lines with
law enforcement. Is we deal with people that just want
to amp up. You know, we lost one hundred and

(57:51):
three officers sergeant so far this year killed in the
line of duty. Most of them were shot and murdered,
well one hundred and three. Now, you know, I talk
about this all the time in Chicago. While we were
scrolling the names of people shot and shot and killed
during the Biden Obama years, nobody else in the media

(58:12):
talked about it. All these all the all these violent
incidents that occur every weekend. Nobody talks about it. Nobody
knows the names of one hundred and three people police
officers that were killed in the line of duty so
far this year. I know the names. I've scrolled their
names too, because why is it that we only hear
about certain cases. Well, you know, it's unfortunate society has

(58:35):
moved away from uh. It's it's lack of concern for
public safety, and public safety has become this uh, this
larger than life figure that everyone wants to build villainide
and and unfortunately, you know, these officers have to go
to work every day, day in and day out, to
do their job and try to protect the public. When
there's this this sentiment that's growing in American society that

(58:59):
they can't they have no control over. Oftentimes we can't
even police can't even see the narrative that being painted
against them in certain situations. So an author can be
showing up thinking they're gonna they're gonna help something, and
based off of what was being proliferated in society or
being being manipulated on social media, this author can be

(59:19):
walking into a trap himself without even knowing it. And
that's how dangerous that this country has become poor law enforcement.
You're gonna see a decline over the next several years.
You're gonna see less and less aufers going into the
law enforce profession, especially when you have politicians looking to
we want to say they're trying to back away from
the defund movement, but especially that they're doing they're trying

(59:42):
to take away resources from law enforcement officers that are
doing a difficult job. And you have politicians going out
here calling for people to get into into the face
of police officers calling for it's happening. We show the
video way too often. We're running out of the time.
Eric Feinberg will give you the last thirty seconds. Well,
what Tray said and and here's something that you know

(01:00:03):
we've we've been doing and searching. We got a problem
with encrypted apps in this country that are being used
by the perpetrators that in real time are tuned in
the police. Scan is when it comes to these protests
and rallies, giving tactical and logistical information through apps like
Telegram telling the protest that riot is where the police
are to we engage with them or to avoid them

(01:00:25):
on these encrypted apps, which is dangerous, very dangerous. Sergeant Penny,
thank you for being with us. Our Feinberg, thank you
for being with us. Eight hundred and nine four one Sean.
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Now we had played a long time ago. We make
the distinction on the program about the organization Black Lives Matter,

(01:01:09):
and after the George Floyd it was so tragic. U
now a guilty verdict when people would say Black Lives Matter,
that's different than the group Black Lives Matter that was
on tape chanting, what do we want dead cops? Why
don't we want them now? And pigs in a blanket
and fry him like bacon. Uh. There was some chanting

(01:01:29):
that went on outside the Minneapolis courthouse saying all cops
are bastards and to get the f out and saying
tell white people to get the f out of New York.
That happened at a New York restaurant in the streets
of New York last night. Listen wants you here, wants

(01:02:04):
you here money? We don't want your married all right?

(01:02:24):
Joining us now? Horace Cooper, legal commentator, co chair of
the Black Leadership Network Project twenty one. Uh, the Reverend
cl heavy Foot, Uh no tickets, Brian is back with
us hearst his own show and uh also a senior
fellow of Freedom Works. How many times have you gotten

(01:02:45):
pulled over in your life, Reverend, it's been it's been
a bunch, Sean, But but just the same. Oh. I
mean we're talking about a dozen two dozen, three dozen,
at least a dozen times, at least a dozen times
when I when I had a heavy foot, and I
stopped doing this about a decade ago. I just like,
you know what, I'm tired of getting pulled over. I'm
tired of you know. I just got a little more mature.

(01:03:08):
And I didn't want to. I never want to hurt anybody.
I want to be a saved driver. And my kids
used to point out all the time, Dad, you're texting
and driving, Dad, you do you know? And I said, okay,
you're right, and it made me stop. Um. But I
find that's the funniest thing. And I know what you
did too, He said, I'm the my name is Reverend
cel Bryant. Are you are you saved officer? I bet

(01:03:30):
how many times did you pull that one? To Jesus
card John, no comment, I could hear you. You know,
I'm a reverend. I'm sorry. I'm on my way to
a funeral. I gotta preside over. I gotta preside over
a wedding. I gotta go see a sick person in
the hospital that had happened on occasion I was on

(01:03:50):
my way late for a few mean yeah, and say, um,
are you a believer? If you know, I'll pray with
you right now. I'm times. Have you done that? Well,
I tell you what. We have led officers to Christ
right there on the street. There's no question. I mean,
this is unbelievable. You're using Jesus, the Son of God

(01:04:11):
who sacrificed everything to save humanity and take our sins
away from us, and you're using the name of Jesus
to get out of a ticket. I can't believe it.
And it works. That's another miracle. But just mess around.
I got to talk about this. If you Amy Horowitz

(01:04:33):
has been in Minneapolis, Reveren, We'll start with you. It's
been in Minneapolis, and he's interviewed all these people and
he asked people, well, how many people how many African
Americans do you think every year are killed by the police,
And many people think it's in the thousands. You know,
when you look at the numbers, there were a year

(01:04:54):
ago twelve incidents. Twelve. People have this perception that it
is that much larger. It's so there's such a disconnect
between what the reality is and what people think is
the reality. Where does that come from? Do you blame
the media? Where do you think it comes from? I believe, Sean,

(01:05:15):
that that comes from the climate that you have in
DC now that wants to take us back to Jim
Crow nineteen twenties and even before then. It's a strange
thing that we're still fighting the same battles that we
were talking about during the Civil War, States rights and slavery.

(01:05:37):
Jim Crowe is something that is an emotional thing for
black people. And if you want to tell me that
Andrew Young, Rosa Parks, Mega Evorts, Doctor King, they all
failed in their civil rights effort, I don't believe. I
don't believe that Andrew Young would stand back to this.
And Sean, I gotta tell you this, I don't understand

(01:05:57):
why Jim clebrin is not called them down on this.
Jim Clyburne lived through Jim Crow. John I'm sixty five
years old. I was eight nine years old in sixty
four sixty five in Shreveport, Louisiana, the last city to
concede defeat in the Civil War. I've seen cross has burned,

(01:06:19):
I've seen the Clan March. I drank from the colored
water fountains and have used the colored bathrooms. And let
me tell you something, This is not nineteen sixty four.
It is not nineteen sixty five. And I'm not telling
you something that somebody told me, or something I read
or something I heard. I'm telling you what I've seen

(01:06:39):
with my own eyes. My parents were on the front line.
And what's your take, hors Cooper, Well, I first want
to say that the Reverend Bryant, I want you to
keep praying for every single person you meet, even if
it is during the traffic encounter the worst. Why are
you encouraging this? But why are you encouraging him to

(01:07:01):
do this? Tell him to slow down, Reverend, you need
to slow down. If if speeding into the Kingdom, my counselor,
I'm listening to my counselor. I'm taking his advice, so
you're gonna listen. So if so, if the reverend speeds
and it's helps him bring more people to Jesus, and
he's sincere. By the way, there's not a joke. He

(01:07:24):
tells everybody. If you are you saved. If you're not,
I'll pray with you right now. He does it all
the time that I'm for that too, but I mean
to get out of a ticket as a little I
don't know, it just sounds awful. I never I never
said I think it's amaze. It's John Hannity saying that.
I think that what I am troubled about is this

(01:07:47):
whole idea that in America today. I have lived my
entire life post the civil rights efforts, and I have
benefited from that effort. The idea that none of that
has worked, none of it has achieved its end, and
that we're no better off now than we were before

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I was born, is a lie. And I also want
to remind people that the benefit to every American being
treated as a citizen is particularly of a value. And
that's why we fought so hard as a community and
a society for the civil rights effort, was so that

(01:08:30):
we could say that everybody got the benefit. Now, in
my view, that means if you're unpopular, if you're not favored,
you are, in fact the very groups that the civil
rights effort was intended to protect, not the popular, not

(01:08:50):
the elite, not those who have it all. And I
just watched a trial where I believe and unpopular men
did not receive the due process that the Constitution would allow.
And the worry I have is the wheel turns. Eventually,
the wheel is going to turn if we allow the

(01:09:11):
idea that if you're unpopular, it's okay, we don't protect
you because we did nothing. So you're so you don't
believe that Derek Children got a fair trial. I do not.
I absolutely do not. Are you suggesting that outside that
the jury felt too much outside pressure? Is that what

(01:09:31):
you're suggesting or where do you think it was unfair?
You know, Maxie Waters comments or settlements. You don't get
twenty eight million dollars settlements in the middle of a trial.
You certainly don't say that the Attorney general is going
to be in charge of deciding what the prosecution's going
to be. You normally, if you have a dream team,

(01:09:51):
it's made up of the people who are acting on
the defense. You normally don't recruit forty or fifty of
the highest paid law firms to crowd in to offer
their services for free. And you don't let Maxine Waters
or the President of the United States tell people what
the consequences are going to be. There were any number

(01:10:13):
of reasons for a video change that should have occurred
if this was nineteen twenty six and we had a
black man and this had happened to I'd like to
think that the so called civil rights community of today
would look at that case and say, WHOA, this isn't right,

(01:10:34):
This isn't just the wheel is going to eventually turns.
Look in the other way when it happens to this
guy is only setting a precedent for what's going to
happen when the wheel turns and stops. And now it's
your turn, exactly, Seal. And you know, the reverse racism, Sean,
that Horace is pointing out is so prevalent in this

(01:10:57):
country right now. And I have to say this to
me Caucasian friends, and Sean, you're one of them, no
doubt about it. Them. I'm naming you here. You're letting
them get away with it. You're letting this. I'm not you, Sean,
not you in particularly. I know you push back every
day and I thank God for you, but I'm using
you as an example, as a Caucasian male. You are

(01:11:17):
allowing them to do this. I'm wondering what is happening
to that person or to those people who were bold
enough to found this country. Yes, they were all white
man and all that type of thing, But there is
a reverse racism now. It's harce is twenty out. That
is unhealthy because they're gonna come for you too. Where

(01:11:37):
we had an article freedom Works, we put an article
in front of the Senators yesterday with this Jim Crow stuff,
this Jim quote twenty we're pushing back hard against it.
One thing I have been able to share is that
where they want to keep black people in this country
and where they're successfully taking them is to the past.
They never talk about where we're going. They never talk

(01:12:00):
about where we are now. They want them to be
as brilliant in the past. In the past is where
we were slaves. We were captive back then. Now we
have the opportunities to enjoy the fruits of American liberty
and the prosperity that goes along with the free market
and capitalism. But the Democrats have always found a lot

(01:12:23):
of favor and money to put in their pockets by
race hustling and keeping us locked in our minds and literally,
as Joe Biden says, they want to put us. He
wants to put us back in change. And if you
do not vote for him. You ain't black. That is
the narrative that black folks must break away from because

(01:12:45):
we are enslaved to it. And there is freedom if,
in fact, we are able to experience the American dream
that our ancestors paid for us to have. And now
we slap them in the face by dishonoring the civil
rights that they fought so valiantly for us to have.
This is not what they wanted. Andrew Young would never

(01:13:08):
go along with what is being said on Capitol Hill
right now. I knew Andrew Young. Andrew Young would never
go along with this, and so I'd say to all
of us, stand stand up and push back right quick,
break Moore with Horace Cooper and Reverend cl Bryan on
the other side, breaking every single day. This is the

(01:13:35):
Sean Hannity Show, all right, as we continue with Horace

(01:14:07):
Cooper and Reverend cl heavy Foot Brian is with us.
I don't see the battle of the fight for colorblind
society anymore. I see politicians that want to divide every
We get this every election year, rich versus poor, old
versus young, Black versus white. Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, transphobic.

(01:14:29):
You know, they want thirty year and water and to
kill granny and Grandpa. I mean, it's it's their playbook.
It's their only playbook. Well but if their playbook. And
that's because if you were to stand up and say,
here's what I have for you as a plan, I
want your schools to continue to be awful. I want

(01:14:49):
to make sure that your job opportunities are awful. I
want to make sure that the dream that you have
that your kids are going to live a better life
than you doesn't get it's not going to be fulfilled.
And you said, well, they don't say that, but that's
what their policies will lead to. So we can't talk
about what their policies will lead to. So they bring
out the boogeyman. The problem that I have is he

(01:15:11):
there is no boogeyman. But b if you go back
in time, what you will see is that the radical
racist auxiliary, the KKK manipulated the Democrats, and the radical
BLM is manipulating the rackle racist BLM is manipulating the

(01:15:35):
Democrats today. No real difference except that Democrats then and
now for republican manipulation want in roads with minority voters
the Donald Trump economic plan of lower taxes, secure borders,
less bureaucracy. That's part of it. The next part of

(01:15:55):
it is every city, every town needs law and order
in safety and security for everybody, or you can't pursue happiness.
The next part of that equation is every child is
born of God, and I mean that, Reverend I'm being
serious now, and has talent from God. And the way
you bring talent out of our national treasure, our children

(01:16:18):
is through an education system. We haven't less than a minute. Absolutely,
it's exactly what must happen, a new education for us.
You must come out of the old one that we had,
and that is America is the greatest nation on the
face of the planet. For everyone who has ever set
foot here, the opportunity has been there. It amazes me

(01:16:41):
that those of us who have been here for generations
don't see that. Well, there are those that are borders
right now clamoring to get in to take advantage of
what we take for granted. All right, thank you both
our Scooper C. O'Brien. Alright, twenty five to the top
of the hour, eight hundred nine for one seawan is
a number of you want to be a part of
this program. So before we get to some calls here,

(01:17:03):
you know, this is getting very annoying to me. You know,
Joe Biden thinks we have no memories here. He wants
to say everything systemic racism. Let's remind you about Joe Biden.
In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian Americans.
Movie from India. You cannot go to a seven eleven
or a dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.

(01:17:26):
I'm not juggle. You don't know my state. My state
was a slave state. My state is a border state.
My state is the eighth largest black population in the country.
We got the first sort of mainstream cical American who
is articulate and brave and clean Bicican guy. I mean,

(01:17:48):
that's a story for unchained Wall Street. You're gonna put
y'all back in chains. It's a long way into November.
We got more questions, You got more questions. I tell me,
if you have a problem figuring out whether you're Form
or Trump and you ain't black. We have this notion
that somehow, if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor

(01:18:08):
kids are just as bright and just as tall as
white kids. I'm a twenty nine year old odd ball.
The only reason I was able to raise the money
is I was able to have a national constituency to
run for office because I was twenty. No, I'm like
the token black or the token woman. I was the
token young person. If we don't, they will, or a
portion of them will become the predators fifteen years from now,

(01:18:31):
and Madam President, we have predators on our streets, all right,
as promised to our busy telephones. Rona is in Mississippi. Rona, Hi,
how are you? Thank you for calling? Glad you willis Hi? Sean,
Thank you for taking my call. I'm actually for Missouri.
Oh I'm sorry it says Mississippi on my screen. Innocent mistake.

(01:18:52):
I won't call out who made it. Don't worry, it's fine, Okay,
thank you for taking my call. Need to say is
that I'm married to a retired law officer, and my husband,
you know, he was also prior military in the Marine Corps.
My dad was a police officer. So I have grown

(01:19:16):
up around officers. I've had respect for them. Our boys
have been raised to have respect. They've been around guns,
never had a problem, and it just obsess me so
much of how law enforcement is being treated these days.
You know, believe it or not, there are officers out
there that want to do this job, that want to

(01:19:37):
protect their community, and the left is just not wanting
that agenda at all. And I'm afraid that the way
that we keep going is that there's going to be
a mass exodus. People are not going to want to
put up with us, because the only thing that's making
law enforcement that job doable is what you know, they

(01:20:01):
call the qualified. It's okay, what are you talking about?
You're talking about indemnification? Is that where you're headed? In
other words, that the cities and towns will no longer indemnify,
meaning provide legal counsel for officers, and they'll have to
pay that themselves. Let me tell you that's going to

(01:20:21):
be the breaking point, because you can't. You can't. It's impossible.
And and there's somebody that has to hire a lot
of lawyers in my life, and they're all great people, honestly,
and they all do a great job for me. But
I have a lot of them because in this day
and age, I can't even be if I ever spent
the time to tell you the crap that goes on

(01:20:44):
to be a conservative on the air in this country,
in this day and age, it's it would blow your mind.
It's not about me. But if cops have to, if
they can't get indemnification, it's over. They'll walk because at
that point the risk is too high normal they ever
be willing to put themselves in harm's way. But even
without that, Rona, I'm telling you right now, no, I

(01:21:06):
don't know people that want to be cops every single
And I had a lot of law enforcement in my family.
And the two guys that made it to the FBI,
the last name was Flynn. They were deity in my family.
Amazing two brothers, and I stay in touch with the
one brother that's still alive and he's a great guy.
And anyway, my mom was a prison guard, my dad

(01:21:29):
was did family cor probation. I had so many people
that were NYPD cops, and and then the rest of
my family when they the next generation kind of you know,
gravitated towards you know, being nurses and doctors. And now
the next generation is even doing better, you know, going
to good schools and all the stuff I couldn't afford to,
you know, I had to pay my own way, and

(01:21:50):
I didn't have enough money to finish. So I don't
think anybody's gonna want to do it. In a sad
part of this is like a great teacher, like a
eight fireman, like a great emt like a great doctor nurse. Uh.
These everyone I know that wanted to be a cop,
had a calling to do it. They're willing to take
on that risk, put themselves in harm's way to protect

(01:22:14):
and to serve thee good cops. But I don't think
anyone's gonna want to do it anymore. I talk to
my cop runs. They don't want to go near trouble anymore.
They don't want any part of it. But they don't
because nowadays it's like in the George Floyd cases that
you nowadays you cannot go less to be confident that

(01:22:34):
you as officer, you're junior protect and serve humans, protecting Jim.
I'm afraid all their camels social media. Yeah, I guarantee
you that not everyone waits at this day, but the
police officer and has in their minds, Okay, today I'm
gonna go out and I'm gonna do this, or I'm

(01:22:55):
gonna go out and do that no, they to the
nose they want. Do you know it's a very Look
at the tape last week. Look look at the three
cops in Georgia that got shot. Look at the New
Mexico cop of routine, routine traffic stop ends up being dead.

(01:23:16):
This happens every day. We've lost one hundred and three
officers so far this year. Nobody knows their names, and
I don't hear people people. I don't see the outrage
in these cases. Now, why does some cases become high
profile and others don't? I don't know. Why do I
scroll the names? Why don't I scroll the names? Back

(01:23:36):
when Biden and Obama, when all these shootings take place
in Chicago, they still continue today every weekend. Names you've
never heard of, because they can't politicize it, because if
they really cared about shootings and killings, they fix what
is going on and has been going on for you know,
decades in Chicago and other big cities run by liberal

(01:23:59):
Democrats for decades. Anyway, good call, appreciate it. William next
in Arkansas, William, how are you glad you called? Oh?
I'm fantastic, Thanks for accepting my call. What can I
do for you? Yeah, I was. My comments were in
reference to the trial. I didn't believe that it was
for me. It wasn't so much about black or white,

(01:24:20):
or Republican or democratic. It's understanding that police brutality is
police brutality and racism and racism. And over the years,
what we've begun to do is to blur the lines.
For every bad cop, there's a hundred good cops. And
in my life, I had the privilege of being born
and raised in Washington, DC, where it was mostly African American.

(01:24:42):
As a teenager, I was harassed by police and none
of them were white. And then I also had the
opportunity to move to Arkansas and it was flipped around.
So it just depended on where I was. But the
one thing that my parents always taught me was when
I got pulled over, was to honor, always honor the
police officer because there's always another way out. There's always

(01:25:05):
another way to I guess you could put there's always
another way to solve an issue. You're not gonna win.
George Floyd didn't win, and I don't care how many
posters they put up. He didn't win the situation. None
of the bodies and the lives that have paved the
way for the arguments and the debates that we have
had and are having ongoing right now. They didn't win.

(01:25:27):
It's a non win situation. I believed that there was
going to be some type of guilty verdict for Derek.
I didn't believe that his family needs to be ostracized
after this. There's so many sides to this. I don't
believe he had a fair trial. There's a lot of
things that we've got to think about here. Let me

(01:25:48):
let me see if I can sum it up for you.
I do think there is a need for more training
because the two things that I believe convicted Derek Chauvin
was the nine and a half minute tape, the nine
minute any nine second tape, the police chief testifying this
is absolutely not what we train, how we train our officers,

(01:26:12):
and officers are taught about the vulnerability of somebody's neck.
The other part was he wasn't resisting anymore. Please, sir,
I can't breathe Please, he's being polite. He wasn't resisting
at that point in anyway. He had handcuffs on. There
was no need to continue any any use of force
whatsoever at that moment. Now you could have put leg

(01:26:34):
restraints on him and if he wouldn't get in the car,
then you put him in the back of a van.
And there's nothing you could do at that point. And
it's so there's and I like non lethal alternatives for
cops short of the taser. So I think there's a
you know, more training. And I'll tell you one thing
you mentioned I've taught my kids. If you ever get

(01:26:55):
pulled over by a police officer, you pull over to
the side of the road safely, you know, acknowledge, and
roll down your window. It's a good idea to put
your hands outside the window and you address the officers. Yes, sir, yes, officer, yes, ma'am. No, ma'am,
yes sir, no, sir, yes, officer, no, officer, thank you, officer.

(01:27:18):
It's not the time to argue. If they're gonna write
you the ticket, take the ticket that I mean, and
be polite and understand. We have to understand their mindset.
They have no idea who you are when they pull
you over. The well, they may have an idea. They
might know if your car is stolen. They might know
that there's a warrant out for your arrest, like in
the case that took place where the officers seemingly had

(01:27:43):
this accidental discharge. So I mean it's they're just we
have to have some understanding of how they feel in
that moment. They have no idea what they're about to
face when they pull somebody over. That guy that was
killed the cop in New Mexico had no idea. If
we do these things, I think things turn around. Last word, Yeah,

(01:28:04):
I agree also, And I guess my whole point is
is that I wish that we could see in officers
in complete day, to take him from the time that
he begins his jobalists. If he starts at eight am
in the morning and he ends at four pm. I
believe that that full footage of his whole day and
what they go through plays an important part of split

(01:28:24):
second decisions. If he was just in a hostile situation
twenty minutes before, what happens twenty minutes after. And I'm
not just talking about Derek Sherlman trial. I'm talking about
as a whole. There's so much more that nobody wants
to talk about, but we keep me yelling about and
until we actually come together and do something. And this
is the only reason I call when I'll quickly say this,

(01:28:47):
the reason that I called is because yesterday I've listened
to you ever since the second year, for six years
during the Obama four years doing Trump, and yesterday was
the first day that I felt that you weren't being
heard and I wanted to scream out for you. I
wanted to articulate for you from an African Americans' perspective,
that we hear you, we are listening to you, and

(01:29:10):
you are turning America page. What part did you think
I wasn't being hurt? On? Well, when when they actually
when you started asking the questions to the people that
were in the crowd, and I knew in my heart
that when you were trying to articulate was that are
we going to be fair for the police officers that
are getting attacked? And I don't I don't believe that

(01:29:34):
you were really being hurt. And I think that, oh,
I think I was being hurt. I gently disagree with you.
I think I was heard all too clearly. And I
think the sad part, and you're talking about when we
had Army Horowitz, he was outside the courtroom. I think
it was just prior to the Verder coming in and
he put one of the people that you know, thousands

(01:29:55):
of people showed up and he put a person on
and we talked about the George Floyd case. The we said, well,
what about the people that throw bricks and rocks and
bottles and molotov cocktails at cops? And I asked, you
condemn that violence? And well, I'm not going to answer that, okay,
because we know the answer. The answer is it's perfectly

(01:30:16):
acceptable to some people. Sure, and that is a sad
commentary on society today, but that's also a reality that
but that's the whole defund the police, dismantle the police. Look,
I'll be honest, I can I'll live perfectly fine myself.
I'll make sure my family safe, but most people will

(01:30:39):
not be safe, especially people in cities and towns that
have higher incidences of crime. Rudy Giuliani, you may hate
his politics, but he showed us how. He showed us
away that we can save lives. You put a heavy
concentration a police sources in the neighborhoods with the most crime.

(01:31:03):
Whatever a neighborhood it is, doesn't wherever it is, where
it's happening. Concentrate added stop and frisk, which constitutionally I
don't really love, but it did work and it was
necessary because you're losing nearly three thousand people a year
at that point. And nobody wants to listen to Rudy
Giuliani on this issue because I don't like his politics.

(01:31:25):
But politics have nothing to do with it. Anybody. I
don't care if you're a liberal, Democrat, Republican, I don't care.
If you have a better idea. I want to hear
it and we need to implement it anyway. I've I've
got a roll, appreciate the call. Thank you so much,
eight hundred nine for one, Sean, if you want to
be a part of the program. That's gonna wrap things
up for today. We'll have the latest out of this

(01:31:47):
Columbus shooting and the insanity of the White House's reaction
to it. Also the latest on these schools and wokeness
and parents fighting back. The lawyer for the teacher on
leave from that woke school that we told you about
is going to join us. Leo Terrell Tonight, Laura Trump
whose kids went to New York schools, Herschel Walker, Jim Jordan,

(01:32:08):
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