June 5, 2023 • 32 mins
Judiciary Committee Chairman Congressman Jim Jordan, of Ohio, joins Hannity to talk about the unclassified FD-1023 document on Joe Biden presented in today's hearings? What is an FD-1023 form? Why is it so important?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, thank you, Scott Shannon, and thanks to all
of you for being with us. Eight hundred and ninety
four one Sean if you want to be a part.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Of the program.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
He is looking into the very serious allegations of whether
the FBI has been politicized and the DOJ has been weaponized.
We have a lot of new developments that talk some
about it in the last hour, and that is Ohio
Congressman Jim Jordan is with us, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm fine, Sewan, good to be with you.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Brother.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, let me start with the chattering class and the
reports that are out today that the grand jury and
the Trump classified document case apparently meeting today and maybe
later in this week, and rumor is running rampant of
a possible indictment of former President Trump. Apparently not one,
but now two meetings have taken place at Merrick Garland's
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Justice Department with Trump lawyers.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Are you hearing the same?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, I am, And it's just more of the same.
I mean, we've talked about this many times before, but
in twenty sixteen, they spied on his campaign. Durham report
the details. He adds that what took place there are
so disgusting, so wrong. So twenty sixteen they spawned his campaign.
Twenty eighteen s the Moeller investigation. Twenty twenty, they suppressed
the Biden laptop story, you know, the fifty one formeran
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tele officials and all how that game was played. And
then in twenty twenty two they raid his home ninety
one days before an election. Now in twenty twenty three,
heading into the presidential election, first you have Alvin Braggan
his ridiculous, ridiculous using federal money to go after a
president for no crime. You have that, you have what
Fonnie Willis is looking to do in Georgia, which is
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also ridiculous. And it looks like now the Special Council
is going to invite the president on the classified document
issue or some kind of instruction charges. You can believe
what's written the press. So it never stops with these folks.
And it's like this. It started in twenty sixteen and
it's continued now for eight years, and it is wrong
as wrong can.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Be, you know, And you've got to look at the
double standard, which is what your committee is really fully
completely looking into into.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I mean, the Durham report.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Was clear Operation Crossfire hurricane never ever should have been
opened as an investigation. There was no evidence warranting such
the double standard in terms of how Killery Clinton was
treated James Comey's you know, famous July twenty sixteen presser,
no reasonable prosecutor whatever prosecute. Meanwhile, thirty three thousand subpoena
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emails were deleted with bleach bit, we had devices destroyed
with hammers, sim cards removed. And then you're going to
add to that the dirty Russian disinformation dossier, which became
the foundational you know peace. Even Andrew McCabe said without it,
they wouldn't have gotten the PISA warrant approved of not
one before PISA applications approved, three of which were by
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Jim Comey. And yet nobody in these in these cases
have been held accountable. That leads to twenty twenty in
that presidential election, pre bunking the very real Hunter Biden
laptop story by you know, the FBI, even paying Twitter
three and a half million dollars and telling all these
big tech companies they meet meet weekly, met with that
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there might be misinformation campaigns against your tech company and
it might be about Joe and Hunter Biden. I mean,
how much weight. Can they put on the scales of
presidential elections and continue to remain a valid agency.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, go to Sean. I hope your listener will go
to page eighty eight of the Durham report. Understand when
they started, all you said is executive right, that's this
double standard. The Clinton campaign got a defensive brief and
they wouldn't do that for Trump back in twenty sixteen.
But one of the key parts in this in this
document is what on page eighty eight where one of
the agents who was working on the Crossfire hurricane investigations
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interview by Durham. So, understand, back in twenty sixteen, there
was credible intelligence that comes to our intelligence community that said, hey,
we think this whole Trump rushes stuff is a complete
made up story from the Clinton campaign. Credible intelligence saying that.
So John Brennan brief Obama, Biden, Comy, and Lynch, and
then they put together a memo and they send that memo.
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The Intelligence Committee sends that memo to Jim Comy and
Peter Struck. Jim Comy and Peter Struck do not share
that memorandum with the agents doing the case doing conducting
the investigation of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. When Durham interviews
one of those key agents who was on the Crossfire
Hurricane case, de handing that memo, the agent reviews that memo,
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and then Durham reports in his says in his report
that individual became visibly upset, emotionally upset, gets up, walks
out the room, comes back in and says, we should
have had that memo that could have changed things. So
Comby instruct kept that information, key information, exculpatory information, kept
it from the guys doing the investigation. That's how biased
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this investigation was. And this double standard that we all know,
all your listeners, all your viewers know, exist unfortunately in
our country.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, now, between your investigation and Comber's investigation, apparently the
Congress you're now investigating whether the FBI used Russian disinformation
claim to shut down the Biden inquiries, meaning into Hunter.
Now they've had that laptop since twenty nineteen. I mean,
what I'm trying to get at here is, Jim, is
there equal justice under the law and application of our laws?
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Because you know what, there is a special council appointed
to look into to Joe Biden and his document top
secret classified document issues, and we don't heard hear word
one about him, haven't heard about any grand jury, haven't
heard about people being brought in and brought out on
a regular basis. So you have one special Council acting
one way and another seems completely, I mean utterly completely
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missing in action.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Even though Joe Biden had to cast by documents at
four different locations for goodness stake, and even though he
was never president when he took those classified documents and
stored them at four different locations, President Chumpe was president,
who is the person who, under our constitution has the
ultimate authority on deciding whether something is classified or not. So, yeah,
this is It drives me crazy. It drives I know,
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your viewers and listeners crazy, and certainly the just in
general dars American people crazy because it's not supposed to
be that way in our great country. It is supposed
to be equal treatment under the law, and it sure
doesn't seem like that's the case. And now we have
this document that they won't even give to, won't even
make public even though it's not classified. They finally let
Chairman Comber go see it. Based on what you think
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about this, Shawn, this is a document produced by our FBI,
A ten twenty three a document produced by them, and
the document says that they had a confidential human source,
a trusted confidential human source who they paid hundreds thousands
of dollars over a decade of service to the FBI,
and that confidential human sources reporting that Joe Biden and
a foreign national talked about money for certain actions. That's
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what it said, That's what mister Comer has said. And
yet three weeks ago they wouldn't even confirm whether it existed.
Now they're confirming it. It exists, it's not classified, but
they won't let the American people see it.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
That's a problem.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That is not, again, how our government is supposed to operate.
And that's why Chairman Comber is so so assistant in
trying to make sure the country gets to see this document.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
What about this report by Paul Sperry. It has to
do with your announcement that you're investigating a special council
looking into Trump and is mishandling a classified documents. What
exactly is that investigation about.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
No, we're just we want to know what kind of crossover,
if any, exists between folks who worked on the molar
investigation and folks who may be working with Jack Smith.
And we know when Jack Smith was first named a
Special Council last fall, we know this is a guy
who was involved in the whole, the whole targeting of
conservatives back when the IRS was doing he was looking
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at ways they could prosecute those individuals. So we just
want to know is there some crossover or some of
the same agents, some of the same people, same apparatus.
We just want to know those kind of questions. Do
we think that's important for the country to know as
all this unfolds, particularly in the context of this of
the Durham Report, which looked at what how Moller handled
is and how the FBI handled it and all the problems,
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all the things they did wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, but the raid of Marrow Lago was done by
the Washington DC counter Intelligence Division at any point, correct
me if I'm wrong, And they are the same people,
same group of people that led the Russia collusion crossfire,
Hurricane hoax and anyway, So Struck is fired after his
his vitriolic anti Trump tweets were revealed, but members apparently
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of his team remained working in the counterintelligence unit, and
one particular analyst I won't mention his name, but you know,
apparently continue to be involved in these politically sensitive investigations.
But this is a particular guy that Michael Horowitz himself
pointed out that should be investigated.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Didn't he didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Hey, yeah, well some of the some of the individuals
that that that were evolved with the Crossfire Hurricane refused
to be interviewed by mister so we you know, he
didn't get to talk to him. Again. What we're trying
to figure out is what kind of closs over may exist.
Who in the Molar investigation is part of this the
Jack Smith investigation. We'd like to know that because I
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think that's relevant information for the American people. We're going
to continue to dig into that, just like Terry macomers
is going to continue to work on trying to get
this document made public for the American people.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay, So I guess where I'm going with all of
this is, you know, the American people have watched Lois Lerner,
they watched Crossfire Hurricane, they watched all these people. They
know it's all true. They know that the media lied
for years and the likes of Adam Schiff and the
Democratic Party lied to them for years, and this information
comes out and the Durham report hits with a thud,
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you know, deafening, silenced by the very people for three
years that push this narrative in these lies and these
conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So now here we go, what is this the next level?
We have two special counsels, but only the one going
after Trump is going to go forward with an indictment.
They have the same FBI as it has Hunter Biden's
laptop since twenty nineteen, and still nothing with Hunter Biden.
I mean, what does that mean for the Republicans and
the and their funding of the FBI and other three
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letter agencies going forward?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Well, a couple of things. One, we do have to
look at what we allow money to be spent on.
We definitely can't allow the FBI to have resources to
build a new headquarters. That makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So that by the way, that headquarters is twice the
size of the Pentagon they want to build.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, so we can't we can't have we can't have that. Uh. Second,
June twenty first, mister Durham will be testifying in a
public hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee. We're going
to focus on all these issues, in particular all the
wrong things that happen in the Muller investigation and the
initial investigation, Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Finally, I would say this, this document that Chairman Comerce pursuing,
I haven't seen it, but my gut tells me I
have a hunch that it's a lot more compelling than
the dossier. Ever was the dossier the Durham says they
did not. They did not substantiate one claim in the dots.
They did not confirm corroborate any substantial claim, any substantial
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ollation made in the dott ea. But that thing was
used two days after they got it. They put it
in the draft Pisa of documents to go to the
court two days after they got it without confirming anything.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Now mind wait a minute, but but they but they
knew ahead of time, because that was late October when
that when that pize application was in. But they sent
FBI agents across the pond to meet with Christopher Steele
and offered him a million dollar bounty.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And then he couldn't.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
He couldn't if he could corroborate any part of the dossier,
he couldn't corroborate any.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Of it, couldn't crab it, couldn't validate it. They use
it anyway. They got the DOCCC on September nineteenth. They
used it in October in the think, but they got
the day they got it two days later. They put
it in the draft, the draft PISA, and then they
used it in the official PIZA that to take to
the court that quick because they were so eager to
go after Trump and it continues to this day. That
is the key takeaway here. So we want to make
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sure the country we're going to be the best we
can on this this committee here and come up on
the twenty first, to make sure the country understands just
how bad it was at the start and how that frame,
in my mind continues to this day.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So we've had the church committees.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I mean, is there a need for a top to
bottom you know, purging, cleansing, reevaluation of the purpose and
the politics that is now clearly infiltrated. You know this
what was once the world's premiere law enforcement agency.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, but we don't need a church commission because remember
the Church Commission is the commission that gave us Faiza.
We know all the abuses. There there are two hundred
and seventy eight thousand reasons why FISA needs to be
changed for goodness sake. We saw that three weeks ago
in that report that said Americans two hundred and seventy
eight thousand times had their data illegally searched by the FBI.
So we don't want that. What we want is for
mister Comer, for our committee and all the other committees
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in Congress under Republican control, to do our investigative work,
do our oversight work, come up with the legislation that
makes sense. Pass that legislation, send it to the Senate.
We'll see what happens there. And then, as you said earlier, Sean,
look at the appropriations process and say what can we
do to And we got all kinds of riders, all
kinds of policy writers. We're going to put on the
appropriation bills to limit the ability of these agencies to
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target the American people.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Do you think that that's happening to a greater extent
than we ever knew? I mean, James call me is saying, oh,
I hope they do even a better job in twenty
twenty four than we did in twenty sixteen, and I'm like, really,
as if enough damage wasn't done.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, No, I do think we are going to get
good language in these bills. That and now, based on
the agreement last week, I think we have a much
better framework for actually getting appropriation bills passed with the
limiting language. For example, when we fund the Department Homeland Security,
we have to have legislations as not one single penny
of tax payer money can be used in any way
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to label American speech misinformation, disinformation, malinformation, No disinformation Governance
board can be formed. We have to do those kind
of things so that our tax and if you do
that kind of stuff, you're going to be held responsible for.
That's the kind of language we got to get as
an example in these bills Boast in the Justice Department
Appropriation Bill, the Homeland Security Appropriations Bill.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Do you believe it's just the top down problem or
has the cancer spread throughout the entire agency?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I still think it's largely at the top, but I
do think there's been some spread, as evidence by what
we saw in the Richmond Field Office, where the Richmond
Field Office put together that memorandum that said, if you're
a pro life, pro family Catholic, you're radical, you're extremists.
So there's been some filtering out, but by and large,
I think the vast, vast majority of agents like you do, Sean,
are good men and women serving our country. The problem
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is in DC at the highest level.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
All right, Jim Jordan, Chair House Judiciary Committee, Sir, thank you,
We appreciate you being Willis.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (16:10):
You want to talk about media coverage and just just
what a bunch of phony lying, you know, it's so
biased and abusively dishonest and corrupt. It's just so transparent
on every issue, you know. Imagine if I spent three
years in this program pushing a hoax and a conspiracy
theory about Democrats and their collusion with Russia and it
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all turned out to be false, Well you think, uh,
maybe there'd be some criticism of me, maybe a push
a demand to get me to retract apologize oops oopsy Daisy,
I got it wrong every single solitary hour of every day,
almost for three straight years. But of course there's nothing
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you know, the double standard. I mean, you know Joe Biden,
you know trips and falls, and you know can barely
utter a few sentences or put it together. They have
ignored most of that. And then the New York Times
over the weekend just just totally completely, as I mentioned earlier,
apologetic over this, and you know, just just listen to
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his bizarre gaff filled speech before the fall at the
Air Force Commencement exercise last Thursday.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
It wasn't all push ups and cramming for PROG week, though.
To set the Guinness Book of Records World records, most
simultaneous push ups had to be an enormous amount of
push ups. Had about doing loops and bow rolls of
the rider. I asked if I could do that today,
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and the Secret Service said, no, we'll have to shoot
it down. By the way, I met with who those
guys that fly over short I heard him having three
of more women. And your class is one of the
most diverse classes in the history of this academy. Or
any academy to graduate. That's why we're strong, That's why
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we're who we are.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
That's why we'll never give up. That's why stop screaming, Joe.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That's his way to compensate for his cognitive mess of
a state that it's in.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
He slips and he falls.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
And as I mentioned earlier, I mean the apology from
the New York Times, you know the complicated reality of
being America's oldest president. In private, some White House officials
acknowledge that they make what they consider reasonable accommodations not
to physically tax an aging president and the staff scheduling
his public appearances between noon and four pm, leave him
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alone on weekends, let him go nap nap time at
nine at seven pm every night.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And you know it's.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
He's a little slower, a little softer, a little harder
of hearing, a little more tentative in his walk. Yeah,
and how did they treat Donald Trump on a rainy
day when he was walking down that ramp with dress
shoes on. It's not like you had shoes rubber soles
on the shoes of his feet. Any of you have
ever walked in the snow with dress shoes on, knows
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exactly what that feeling is like, so he walks gingerly
down the wet, rainy slope that didn't even have a
guard rail anyway, compare the difference.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
President Trump is now the oldest president to hold office
during a first term, as he celebrated his seventy fourth
birthday yesterday. However, this milestone is bringing up new questions
about his health, particularly over the moment with this weekend
where he cautiously descended a ramp during the commencement speech
at West Point Academy tonight. New questions about President Trump's
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how after this walk down a ramp at West Points
graduation ceremony this weekend.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
One does need to be a physician to note that
the president hasn't looked well recently.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
He didn't look well on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Having momentary stumbles, momentary laughses in you know, it looks
sure straining for a word or whatever it might be.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
President Trump is not known for being athletic, so maybe
he just has a hard time going down a gently
sloping ramp. But do you see something possibly neurological that
could be throwing off his balance.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, the only ones that are off balanced are in
the media. Eight ninety four one, Shawn, if you want
to be a part of the program. Doug in Texas. Doug,
you're on the Sean Hannity Show. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Heany Sean? Thank you for taking my call. I wanted
to ask you a question since you know Desanta's any
no Donald Trump. The question is what they've put their
own personal interests and agendas first before the America people
in the country, or would they do what's best for
the American country?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Wait a minute, so will they put their personal difference
aside for the good of the country And you're basically
asked to be the same thing, are you?
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Well, what I'm asking is would they do what's best
for the country first before their own personal interest And
the reason I'm asking this is I think if Trump
was to get four more years, and I would have
liked the Santas to run as vice president. And because
either if either one of them won, they're both going
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to face the same problem. They're going to be constantly
attacked by the left. But within two working together, it
would be a powerhouse, it being unstoppable force.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
And they both listen, You're you're one of many many
people that have asked me about this, and and I
kind of think, honestly, and I'm being blunt here, that
that ship has selled and that they're you know, that
there's there's bad blood. I Thinkald Trump's given his reason.
Ron DeSantis has responded to.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
It, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
But I mean, we have rumors running ramp at all
week that there might be a possible indictment of Donald
Trump with the Special Council regarding the Marra A Lago rate.
I mean, you know, anything can change at a moment's notice.
How ironic would that be considering they've had Hunter Biden's
laptop since twenty nineteen and of course nothing happens. But
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and Joe Biden has far more in terms of top
secret classified documents than Trump has. So you know, we're
in a situation where I just think things are too fluid.
I don't know what the what the political reality is
going to be for either of them. I just know
that if Joe Biden has ever re elected with screwed, yes, sir,
I mean that's putting it mildly.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Yeah, I just feel that they would they could accomplish
so much together, and Trump can finish out for four
years and then afterwards the Santas would have the experience.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Listen, do do I like the idea on paper?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I do like the idea on paper.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And then the irony is, you know, Trump was a
big supporter of DeSantis, and DeSantis was a big supporter
of Trump. And you know, but I'm telling you, having
done more than a few of these, you know, primaries
over the years, it's pretty much at some point it
becomes par for the course. There's no stopping it. It's
it's it's gonna eventually deteriorate into what you now see
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in the beginning of the process. Usually see it at
the end of the process. Okay, okay, you know, blessed
are the peacemakers, though, Doug uh because the Kingdom of
I guess Earth will be inherited by you.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Chris Tennessee next Sean Hannity Show. Hey you, sir, how
are you.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
About Joe good I just wanted to comment about Joe Kennedy.
I've been watching this campaign and.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
About Joe Kennedy, meaning about Robert Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Robert, I'm sorry, Robert Kennedy Jr. Yeah, I'm just I'm
concerned about the uh. I know, there was a lot
of information about code teake on there, and it was
a little bit disheartening. Uh. I was kind of hoping
going to be more like his dad, but he doesn't.
I don't really think it's going to be that way.
But anyway, that's that's kind of where I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Well, the phenomenon that is Robert F. Kennedy Junior and is.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
He takes a lot of positions that go against the
radical left of his own party. You know, look at
his positions on vaccines. And now I notice that the
media has taken a calling him a conspiracy theorist. But
he's getting twenty one percent of the polling against the city,
you know, president.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
That's a big number.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That is not a small number, that is not that
That's a number that Biden people have to pay real
attention to. And then another ten percent is being siphoned
away by Mary and Williamson, which I didn't think would
happen either.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I got you, But I'm more concerned on how he
will govern if he actually work become president. You know.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
You know, look, I'll give him more time. I'll leave
it off for him a town hall if he wants. Honestly,
the only one I'm really interested at all in talking
to is because he's got at such a twisted agenda
as part of the whole process. Is Chris Christy, you know,
if you if you're just running, you know, look the
guy left the governorship in New Jersey with the fourteen
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percent approval rating, you know, and then you know he's
he's acting as the Liz Cheney in this race instead
of Liz Cheney running. And if that's if that's his agenda,
I'm not really interested in talking to him. I hate
Donald Trump. Okay, what's your next point? How are you
going to fix America? Are you really running because you
want to win the nomination? Because that's not a winning platform.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, I think he's I think he's basically they're just
nick capt Trump. I think that's gonna be his job.
That's why I look at that with sir. But if I,
if I must say, I would like to see Trump
at the Santus. I think even if Trump, let's say
you put Trump over the FBI, that would be a
great team. But I realize they're not going to work together,
So I guess that's mische'll think you.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, look, my take is it's wishful thinking and and
but a lot of people want it. I can tell
you that right now, a lot of people don't like
the infighting, especially this early in the process. And I'm
just hearing that a lot. I'm just stating what it
is a fact, but you know it's as I tell you,
it's just a matter of when, not if that's going
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Speaker 1 (27:49):
Calls eight hundred and nine point one Shawn on number
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Hannity Show, How are you?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Great?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Pleasure to talk to you. I gotta tell you my
heart is troubled because our politicians have forgotten exactly what
they're elected for. He looked the House of Representatives. Their
constitutional duty Number one is to uh set spending, and
they put it off like bad school kids who waited
till they were about to fail the course before they
(28:17):
did their homework.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Well, it's not I don't think they put it off,
And fairness to them, they were trying to engage, you know,
Joe Biden from the beginning. If anything, I think in
the end they gave much more than they otherwise needed to.
And you know, I I've talked to a lot of people,
all the different factions in the Republican Party, and there's
been some anger and angst, and I think going forward,
(28:41):
hopefully they'll do it better. But I wouldn't have I
wouldn't have voted for that bill.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
No, I agree, I wouldn't voted for it either.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
And if they had been earlier to the punch and
been on the TV every day starting back in January
about this, you know, it would have been a lot
better for everyone. He would have had Joe would have
had it wake up or handlers would have had to
wake up.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
And well, in fairness to Kevin on the one front,
I mean he was calling out Joe and asking for
a meeting pretty much every day.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yeah, about the last thirty forty five days, he sure was.
I'm certainly not thrilled with Joe. Any legitimate government's first
duty has affected citizens, and he's left eight million unknowns
into our country illegally.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
He's not exactly following the laws of the land.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Is he he's aiding in a he's taking it a
step further. He's aiding and he's a betting in the
law breaking, you know what. He should be held accountable
for that too. Now that's why it's going to be
very interesting.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Look, rumors come and go.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
There have been rumors that Hunter Biden's indictment was imminent.
Now we're hearing that there might be an indictment from
the Special Council. That's those rumors are everywhere and I
don't know if there's any truth to them. Will know
as the week unfolds, as it relates to the Donald Trump.
But I mean, at what point, you know, the American
people see this. It's no longer about prosecution. This is
(30:08):
a persecution and at some point America's got to look
at you know, how much how many people are going
to run for office with a platform to go after
one man, one family, one organization and follow through on
it when they get elected In these powerful positions, because
that's not equal justice or application of our laws. Anyway,
(30:32):
let's say hi to leon Ohio Lee. We got about
a minute and a half, all yours all righty?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
What I wanted to ask was this, do you think
it would be feasible for Donald Trump to just throw
a blanket lawsuit out on the media and the FBI
and the DOJ because we now have the Durham Report,
which would you know, exonerate a lot of things that
he had said. And if the lawsuit was pending that
(31:02):
they couldn't bad mouthing, They couldn't throw all this bad
pr out on him.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
The problem is it's a great idea. I know they've
looked into it, and my understanding is it is next
to impossible to sue the government and to do it successfully.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Well, what about the news agencies? I mean, why don't
they just throw a Kyle Whittenhouse on him? You know,
they ran that poor boy through the wringer for over
a year.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And the difference is he wasn't a public figure.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You know, this is where Times v. Sullivan comes into effect.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
You know, Look, it's one of the reasons in my
life I can't fight back when I'm light about.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It sucks. I mean, I'm flat out light about and
there's nothing I can do to defend myself. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
So I understand it goes with the territorium a big boy.
I can take the hits, I understand as part of
my job. But you know, trust me, there's a fundamental
unfairness to all that. And you know, proving malice is
a very very high stand and it just I don't
think you can get there easily. Put it that way anyway,
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I appreciate to call my friend eight hundred and ninety
four one Shawn a number you want to be a
part of the program. Jason Chaifitz checks some of us
at the top of the next hour.
All right, thank you, Scott Shannon, and thanks to all
of you for being with us. Eight hundred and ninety
four one Sean if you want to be a part.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Of the program.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
He is looking into the very serious allegations of whether
the FBI has been politicized and the DOJ has been weaponized.
We have a lot of new developments that talk some
about it in the last hour, and that is Ohio
Congressman Jim Jordan is with us, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm fine, Sewan, good to be with you.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Brother.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, let me start with the chattering class and the
reports that are out today that the grand jury and
the Trump classified document case apparently meeting today and maybe
later in this week, and rumor is running rampant of
a possible indictment of former President Trump. Apparently not one,
but now two meetings have taken place at Merrick Garland's
(00:49):
Justice Department with Trump lawyers.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Are you hearing the same?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, I am, And it's just more of the same.
I mean, we've talked about this many times before, but
in twenty sixteen, they spied on his campaign. Durham report
the details. He adds that what took place there are
so disgusting, so wrong. So twenty sixteen they spawned his campaign.
Twenty eighteen s the Moeller investigation. Twenty twenty, they suppressed
the Biden laptop story, you know, the fifty one formeran
(01:12):
tele officials and all how that game was played. And
then in twenty twenty two they raid his home ninety
one days before an election. Now in twenty twenty three,
heading into the presidential election, first you have Alvin Braggan
his ridiculous, ridiculous using federal money to go after a
president for no crime. You have that, you have what
Fonnie Willis is looking to do in Georgia, which is
(01:32):
also ridiculous. And it looks like now the Special Council
is going to invite the president on the classified document
issue or some kind of instruction charges. You can believe
what's written the press. So it never stops with these folks.
And it's like this. It started in twenty sixteen and
it's continued now for eight years, and it is wrong
as wrong can.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Be, you know, And you've got to look at the
double standard, which is what your committee is really fully
completely looking into into.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I mean, the Durham report.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Was clear Operation Crossfire hurricane never ever should have been
opened as an investigation. There was no evidence warranting such
the double standard in terms of how Killery Clinton was
treated James Comey's you know, famous July twenty sixteen presser,
no reasonable prosecutor whatever prosecute. Meanwhile, thirty three thousand subpoena
(02:20):
emails were deleted with bleach bit, we had devices destroyed
with hammers, sim cards removed. And then you're going to
add to that the dirty Russian disinformation dossier, which became
the foundational you know peace. Even Andrew McCabe said without it,
they wouldn't have gotten the PISA warrant approved of not
one before PISA applications approved, three of which were by
(02:42):
Jim Comey. And yet nobody in these in these cases
have been held accountable. That leads to twenty twenty in
that presidential election, pre bunking the very real Hunter Biden
laptop story by you know, the FBI, even paying Twitter
three and a half million dollars and telling all these
big tech companies they meet meet weekly, met with that
(03:02):
there might be misinformation campaigns against your tech company and
it might be about Joe and Hunter Biden. I mean,
how much weight. Can they put on the scales of
presidential elections and continue to remain a valid agency.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, go to Sean. I hope your listener will go
to page eighty eight of the Durham report. Understand when
they started, all you said is executive right, that's this
double standard. The Clinton campaign got a defensive brief and
they wouldn't do that for Trump back in twenty sixteen.
But one of the key parts in this in this
document is what on page eighty eight where one of
the agents who was working on the Crossfire hurricane investigations
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interview by Durham. So, understand, back in twenty sixteen, there
was credible intelligence that comes to our intelligence community that said, hey,
we think this whole Trump rushes stuff is a complete
made up story from the Clinton campaign. Credible intelligence saying that.
So John Brennan brief Obama, Biden, Comy, and Lynch, and
then they put together a memo and they send that memo.
(04:02):
The Intelligence Committee sends that memo to Jim Comy and
Peter Struck. Jim Comy and Peter Struck do not share
that memorandum with the agents doing the case doing conducting
the investigation of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. When Durham interviews
one of those key agents who was on the Crossfire
Hurricane case, de handing that memo, the agent reviews that memo,
(04:23):
and then Durham reports in his says in his report
that individual became visibly upset, emotionally upset, gets up, walks
out the room, comes back in and says, we should
have had that memo that could have changed things. So
Comby instruct kept that information, key information, exculpatory information, kept
it from the guys doing the investigation. That's how biased
(04:44):
this investigation was. And this double standard that we all know,
all your listeners, all your viewers know, exist unfortunately in
our country.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, now, between your investigation and Comber's investigation, apparently the
Congress you're now investigating whether the FBI used Russian disinformation
claim to shut down the Biden inquiries, meaning into Hunter.
Now they've had that laptop since twenty nineteen. I mean,
what I'm trying to get at here is, Jim, is
there equal justice under the law and application of our laws?
(05:12):
Because you know what, there is a special council appointed
to look into to Joe Biden and his document top
secret classified document issues, and we don't heard hear word
one about him, haven't heard about any grand jury, haven't
heard about people being brought in and brought out on
a regular basis. So you have one special Council acting
one way and another seems completely, I mean utterly completely
(05:36):
missing in action.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Even though Joe Biden had to cast by documents at
four different locations for goodness stake, and even though he
was never president when he took those classified documents and
stored them at four different locations, President Chumpe was president,
who is the person who, under our constitution has the
ultimate authority on deciding whether something is classified or not. So, yeah,
this is It drives me crazy. It drives I know,
(05:58):
your viewers and listeners crazy, and certainly the just in
general dars American people crazy because it's not supposed to
be that way in our great country. It is supposed
to be equal treatment under the law, and it sure
doesn't seem like that's the case. And now we have
this document that they won't even give to, won't even
make public even though it's not classified. They finally let
Chairman Comber go see it. Based on what you think
(06:20):
about this, Shawn, this is a document produced by our FBI,
A ten twenty three a document produced by them, and
the document says that they had a confidential human source,
a trusted confidential human source who they paid hundreds thousands
of dollars over a decade of service to the FBI,
and that confidential human sources reporting that Joe Biden and
a foreign national talked about money for certain actions. That's
(06:44):
what it said, That's what mister Comer has said. And
yet three weeks ago they wouldn't even confirm whether it existed.
Now they're confirming it. It exists, it's not classified, but
they won't let the American people see it.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
That's a problem.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That is not, again, how our government is supposed to operate.
And that's why Chairman Comber is so so assistant in
trying to make sure the country gets to see this document.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
What about this report by Paul Sperry. It has to
do with your announcement that you're investigating a special council
looking into Trump and is mishandling a classified documents. What
exactly is that investigation about.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
No, we're just we want to know what kind of crossover,
if any, exists between folks who worked on the molar
investigation and folks who may be working with Jack Smith.
And we know when Jack Smith was first named a
Special Council last fall, we know this is a guy
who was involved in the whole, the whole targeting of
conservatives back when the IRS was doing he was looking
(07:38):
at ways they could prosecute those individuals. So we just
want to know is there some crossover or some of
the same agents, some of the same people, same apparatus.
We just want to know those kind of questions. Do
we think that's important for the country to know as
all this unfolds, particularly in the context of this of
the Durham Report, which looked at what how Moller handled
is and how the FBI handled it and all the problems,
(07:58):
all the things they did wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, but the raid of Marrow Lago was done by
the Washington DC counter Intelligence Division at any point, correct
me if I'm wrong, And they are the same people,
same group of people that led the Russia collusion crossfire,
Hurricane hoax and anyway, So Struck is fired after his
his vitriolic anti Trump tweets were revealed, but members apparently
(08:24):
of his team remained working in the counterintelligence unit, and
one particular analyst I won't mention his name, but you know,
apparently continue to be involved in these politically sensitive investigations.
But this is a particular guy that Michael Horowitz himself
pointed out that should be investigated.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Didn't he didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Hey, yeah, well some of the some of the individuals
that that that were evolved with the Crossfire Hurricane refused
to be interviewed by mister so we you know, he
didn't get to talk to him. Again. What we're trying
to figure out is what kind of closs over may exist.
Who in the Molar investigation is part of this the
Jack Smith investigation. We'd like to know that because I
(09:07):
think that's relevant information for the American people. We're going
to continue to dig into that, just like Terry macomers
is going to continue to work on trying to get
this document made public for the American people.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay, So I guess where I'm going with all of
this is, you know, the American people have watched Lois Lerner,
they watched Crossfire Hurricane, they watched all these people. They
know it's all true. They know that the media lied
for years and the likes of Adam Schiff and the
Democratic Party lied to them for years, and this information
comes out and the Durham report hits with a thud,
(09:37):
you know, deafening, silenced by the very people for three
years that push this narrative in these lies and these
conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So now here we go, what is this the next level?
We have two special counsels, but only the one going
after Trump is going to go forward with an indictment.
They have the same FBI as it has Hunter Biden's
laptop since twenty nineteen, and still nothing with Hunter Biden.
I mean, what does that mean for the Republicans and
the and their funding of the FBI and other three
(10:07):
letter agencies going forward?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Well, a couple of things. One, we do have to
look at what we allow money to be spent on.
We definitely can't allow the FBI to have resources to
build a new headquarters. That makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So that by the way, that headquarters is twice the
size of the Pentagon they want to build.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, so we can't we can't have we can't have that. Uh. Second,
June twenty first, mister Durham will be testifying in a
public hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee. We're going
to focus on all these issues, in particular all the
wrong things that happen in the Muller investigation and the
initial investigation, Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Finally, I would say this, this document that Chairman Comerce pursuing,
I haven't seen it, but my gut tells me I
have a hunch that it's a lot more compelling than
the dossier. Ever was the dossier the Durham says they
did not. They did not substantiate one claim in the dots.
They did not confirm corroborate any substantial claim, any substantial
(10:59):
ollation made in the dott ea. But that thing was
used two days after they got it. They put it
in the draft Pisa of documents to go to the
court two days after they got it without confirming anything.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Now mind wait a minute, but but they but they
knew ahead of time, because that was late October when
that when that pize application was in. But they sent
FBI agents across the pond to meet with Christopher Steele
and offered him a million dollar bounty.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And then he couldn't.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
He couldn't if he could corroborate any part of the dossier,
he couldn't corroborate any.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Of it, couldn't crab it, couldn't validate it. They use
it anyway. They got the DOCCC on September nineteenth. They
used it in October in the think, but they got
the day they got it two days later. They put
it in the draft, the draft PISA, and then they
used it in the official PIZA that to take to
the court that quick because they were so eager to
go after Trump and it continues to this day. That
is the key takeaway here. So we want to make
(11:52):
sure the country we're going to be the best we
can on this this committee here and come up on
the twenty first, to make sure the country understands just
how bad it was at the start and how that frame,
in my mind continues to this day.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So we've had the church committees.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I mean, is there a need for a top to
bottom you know, purging, cleansing, reevaluation of the purpose and
the politics that is now clearly infiltrated. You know this
what was once the world's premiere law enforcement agency.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, but we don't need a church commission because remember
the Church Commission is the commission that gave us Faiza.
We know all the abuses. There there are two hundred
and seventy eight thousand reasons why FISA needs to be
changed for goodness sake. We saw that three weeks ago
in that report that said Americans two hundred and seventy
eight thousand times had their data illegally searched by the FBI.
So we don't want that. What we want is for
mister Comer, for our committee and all the other committees
(12:45):
in Congress under Republican control, to do our investigative work,
do our oversight work, come up with the legislation that
makes sense. Pass that legislation, send it to the Senate.
We'll see what happens there. And then, as you said earlier, Sean,
look at the appropriations process and say what can we
do to And we got all kinds of riders, all
kinds of policy writers. We're going to put on the
appropriation bills to limit the ability of these agencies to
(13:05):
target the American people.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Do you think that that's happening to a greater extent
than we ever knew? I mean, James call me is saying, oh,
I hope they do even a better job in twenty
twenty four than we did in twenty sixteen, and I'm like, really,
as if enough damage wasn't done.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, No, I do think we are going to get
good language in these bills. That and now, based on
the agreement last week, I think we have a much
better framework for actually getting appropriation bills passed with the
limiting language. For example, when we fund the Department Homeland Security,
we have to have legislations as not one single penny
of tax payer money can be used in any way
(13:41):
to label American speech misinformation, disinformation, malinformation, No disinformation Governance
board can be formed. We have to do those kind
of things so that our tax and if you do
that kind of stuff, you're going to be held responsible for.
That's the kind of language we got to get as
an example in these bills Boast in the Justice Department
Appropriation Bill, the Homeland Security Appropriations Bill.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Do you believe it's just the top down problem or
has the cancer spread throughout the entire agency?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I still think it's largely at the top, but I
do think there's been some spread, as evidence by what
we saw in the Richmond Field Office, where the Richmond
Field Office put together that memorandum that said, if you're
a pro life, pro family Catholic, you're radical, you're extremists.
So there's been some filtering out, but by and large,
I think the vast, vast majority of agents like you do, Sean,
are good men and women serving our country. The problem
(14:31):
is in DC at the highest level.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
All right, Jim Jordan, Chair House Judiciary Committee, Sir, thank you,
We appreciate you being Willis.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Thank you.
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Plural, by the way.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You want to talk about media coverage and just just
what a bunch of phony lying, you know, it's so
biased and abusively dishonest and corrupt. It's just so transparent
on every issue, you know. Imagine if I spent three
years in this program pushing a hoax and a conspiracy
theory about Democrats and their collusion with Russia and it
(16:35):
all turned out to be false, Well you think, uh,
maybe there'd be some criticism of me, maybe a push
a demand to get me to retract apologize oops oopsy Daisy,
I got it wrong every single solitary hour of every day,
almost for three straight years. But of course there's nothing
(16:57):
you know, the double standard. I mean, you know Joe Biden,
you know trips and falls, and you know can barely
utter a few sentences or put it together. They have
ignored most of that. And then the New York Times
over the weekend just just totally completely, as I mentioned earlier,
apologetic over this, and you know, just just listen to
(17:19):
his bizarre gaff filled speech before the fall at the
Air Force Commencement exercise last Thursday.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
It wasn't all push ups and cramming for PROG week, though.
To set the Guinness Book of Records World records, most
simultaneous push ups had to be an enormous amount of
push ups. Had about doing loops and bow rolls of
the rider. I asked if I could do that today,
(17:51):
and the Secret Service said, no, we'll have to shoot
it down. By the way, I met with who those
guys that fly over short I heard him having three
of more women. And your class is one of the
most diverse classes in the history of this academy. Or
any academy to graduate. That's why we're strong, That's why
(18:14):
we're who we are.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
That's why we'll never give up. That's why stop screaming, Joe.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That's his way to compensate for his cognitive mess of
a state that it's in.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
He slips and he falls.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
And as I mentioned earlier, I mean the apology from
the New York Times, you know the complicated reality of
being America's oldest president. In private, some White House officials
acknowledge that they make what they consider reasonable accommodations not
to physically tax an aging president and the staff scheduling
his public appearances between noon and four pm, leave him
(18:54):
alone on weekends, let him go nap nap time at
nine at seven pm every night.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And you know it's.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
He's a little slower, a little softer, a little harder
of hearing, a little more tentative in his walk. Yeah,
and how did they treat Donald Trump on a rainy
day when he was walking down that ramp with dress
shoes on. It's not like you had shoes rubber soles
on the shoes of his feet. Any of you have
ever walked in the snow with dress shoes on, knows
(19:25):
exactly what that feeling is like, so he walks gingerly
down the wet, rainy slope that didn't even have a
guard rail anyway, compare the difference.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
President Trump is now the oldest president to hold office
during a first term, as he celebrated his seventy fourth
birthday yesterday. However, this milestone is bringing up new questions
about his health, particularly over the moment with this weekend
where he cautiously descended a ramp during the commencement speech
at West Point Academy tonight. New questions about President Trump's
(19:59):
how after this walk down a ramp at West Points
graduation ceremony this weekend.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
One does need to be a physician to note that
the president hasn't looked well recently.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
He didn't look well on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Having momentary stumbles, momentary laughses in you know, it looks
sure straining for a word or whatever it might be.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
President Trump is not known for being athletic, so maybe
he just has a hard time going down a gently
sloping ramp. But do you see something possibly neurological that
could be throwing off his balance.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, the only ones that are off balanced are in
the media. Eight ninety four one, Shawn, if you want
to be a part of the program. Doug in Texas. Doug,
you're on the Sean Hannity Show. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Heany Sean? Thank you for taking my call. I wanted
to ask you a question since you know Desanta's any
no Donald Trump. The question is what they've put their
own personal interests and agendas first before the America people
in the country, or would they do what's best for
the American country?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Wait a minute, so will they put their personal difference
aside for the good of the country And you're basically
asked to be the same thing, are you?
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Well, what I'm asking is would they do what's best
for the country first before their own personal interest And
the reason I'm asking this is I think if Trump
was to get four more years, and I would have
liked the Santas to run as vice president. And because
either if either one of them won, they're both going
(21:34):
to face the same problem. They're going to be constantly
attacked by the left. But within two working together, it
would be a powerhouse, it being unstoppable force.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
And they both listen, You're you're one of many many
people that have asked me about this, and and I
kind of think, honestly, and I'm being blunt here, that
that ship has selled and that they're you know, that
there's there's bad blood. I Thinkald Trump's given his reason.
Ron DeSantis has responded to.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
It, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
But I mean, we have rumors running ramp at all
week that there might be a possible indictment of Donald
Trump with the Special Council regarding the Marra A Lago rate.
I mean, you know, anything can change at a moment's notice.
How ironic would that be considering they've had Hunter Biden's
laptop since twenty nineteen and of course nothing happens. But
(22:25):
and Joe Biden has far more in terms of top
secret classified documents than Trump has. So you know, we're
in a situation where I just think things are too fluid.
I don't know what the what the political reality is
going to be for either of them. I just know
that if Joe Biden has ever re elected with screwed, yes, sir,
I mean that's putting it mildly.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Yeah, I just feel that they would they could accomplish
so much together, and Trump can finish out for four
years and then afterwards the Santas would have the experience.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Listen, do do I like the idea on paper?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I do like the idea on paper.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And then the irony is, you know, Trump was a
big supporter of DeSantis, and DeSantis was a big supporter
of Trump. And you know, but I'm telling you, having
done more than a few of these, you know, primaries
over the years, it's pretty much at some point it
becomes par for the course. There's no stopping it. It's
it's it's gonna eventually deteriorate into what you now see
(23:21):
in the beginning of the process. Usually see it at
the end of the process. Okay, okay, you know, blessed
are the peacemakers, though, Doug uh because the Kingdom of
I guess Earth will be inherited by you.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Chris Tennessee next Sean Hannity Show. Hey you, sir, how
are you.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
About Joe good I just wanted to comment about Joe Kennedy.
I've been watching this campaign and.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
About Joe Kennedy, meaning about Robert Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Robert, I'm sorry, Robert Kennedy Jr. Yeah, I'm just I'm
concerned about the uh. I know, there was a lot
of information about code teake on there, and it was
a little bit disheartening. Uh. I was kind of hoping
going to be more like his dad, but he doesn't.
I don't really think it's going to be that way.
But anyway, that's that's kind of where I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Well, the phenomenon that is Robert F. Kennedy Junior and is.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
He takes a lot of positions that go against the
radical left of his own party. You know, look at
his positions on vaccines. And now I notice that the
media has taken a calling him a conspiracy theorist. But
he's getting twenty one percent of the polling against the city,
you know, president.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
That's a big number.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That is not a small number, that is not that
That's a number that Biden people have to pay real
attention to. And then another ten percent is being siphoned
away by Mary and Williamson, which I didn't think would
happen either.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I got you, But I'm more concerned on how he
will govern if he actually work become president. You know.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
You know, look, I'll give him more time. I'll leave
it off for him a town hall if he wants. Honestly,
the only one I'm really interested at all in talking
to is because he's got at such a twisted agenda
as part of the whole process. Is Chris Christy, you know,
if you if you're just running, you know, look the
guy left the governorship in New Jersey with the fourteen
(25:13):
percent approval rating, you know, and then you know he's
he's acting as the Liz Cheney in this race instead
of Liz Cheney running. And if that's if that's his agenda,
I'm not really interested in talking to him. I hate
Donald Trump. Okay, what's your next point? How are you
going to fix America? Are you really running because you
want to win the nomination? Because that's not a winning platform.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, I think he's I think he's basically they're just
nick capt Trump. I think that's gonna be his job.
That's why I look at that with sir. But if I,
if I must say, I would like to see Trump
at the Santus. I think even if Trump, let's say
you put Trump over the FBI, that would be a
great team. But I realize they're not going to work together,
So I guess that's mische'll think you.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, look, my take is it's wishful thinking and and
but a lot of people want it. I can tell
you that right now, a lot of people don't like
the infighting, especially this early in the process. And I'm
just hearing that a lot. I'm just stating what it
is a fact, but you know it's as I tell you,
it's just a matter of when, not if that's going
(26:18):
to happen anyway. Anyway, Chris, appreciate the call, my friend,
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Speaker 5 (27:34):
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Hannity Show, How are you?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Great?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Pleasure to talk to you. I gotta tell you my
heart is troubled because our politicians have forgotten exactly what
they're elected for. He looked the House of Representatives. Their
constitutional duty Number one is to uh set spending, and
they put it off like bad school kids who waited
till they were about to fail the course before they
(28:17):
did their homework.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Well, it's not I don't think they put it off,
And fairness to them, they were trying to engage, you know,
Joe Biden from the beginning. If anything, I think in
the end they gave much more than they otherwise needed to.
And you know, I I've talked to a lot of people,
all the different factions in the Republican Party, and there's
been some anger and angst, and I think going forward,
(28:41):
hopefully they'll do it better. But I wouldn't have I
wouldn't have voted for that bill.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
No, I agree, I wouldn't voted for it either.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
And if they had been earlier to the punch and
been on the TV every day starting back in January
about this, you know, it would have been a lot
better for everyone. He would have had Joe would have
had it wake up or handlers would have had to
wake up.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
And well, in fairness to Kevin on the one front,
I mean he was calling out Joe and asking for
a meeting pretty much every day.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yeah, about the last thirty forty five days, he sure was.
I'm certainly not thrilled with Joe. Any legitimate government's first
duty has affected citizens, and he's left eight million unknowns
into our country illegally.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
He's not exactly following the laws of the land.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Is he he's aiding in a he's taking it a
step further. He's aiding and he's a betting in the
law breaking, you know what. He should be held accountable
for that too. Now that's why it's going to be
very interesting.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Look, rumors come and go.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
There have been rumors that Hunter Biden's indictment was imminent.
Now we're hearing that there might be an indictment from
the Special Council. That's those rumors are everywhere and I
don't know if there's any truth to them. Will know
as the week unfolds, as it relates to the Donald Trump.
But I mean, at what point, you know, the American
people see this. It's no longer about prosecution. This is
(30:08):
a persecution and at some point America's got to look
at you know, how much how many people are going
to run for office with a platform to go after
one man, one family, one organization and follow through on
it when they get elected In these powerful positions, because
that's not equal justice or application of our laws. Anyway,
(30:32):
let's say hi to leon Ohio Lee. We got about
a minute and a half, all yours all righty?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
What I wanted to ask was this, do you think
it would be feasible for Donald Trump to just throw
a blanket lawsuit out on the media and the FBI
and the DOJ because we now have the Durham Report,
which would you know, exonerate a lot of things that
he had said. And if the lawsuit was pending that
(31:02):
they couldn't bad mouthing, They couldn't throw all this bad
pr out on him.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
The problem is it's a great idea. I know they've
looked into it, and my understanding is it is next
to impossible to sue the government and to do it successfully.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Well, what about the news agencies? I mean, why don't
they just throw a Kyle Whittenhouse on him? You know,
they ran that poor boy through the wringer for over
a year.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And the difference is he wasn't a public figure.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You know, this is where Times v. Sullivan comes into effect.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
You know, Look, it's one of the reasons in my
life I can't fight back when I'm light about.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It sucks. I mean, I'm flat out light about and
there's nothing I can do to defend myself. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
So I understand it goes with the territorium a big boy.
I can take the hits, I understand as part of
my job. But you know, trust me, there's a fundamental
unfairness to all that. And you know, proving malice is
a very very high stand and it just I don't
think you can get there easily. Put it that way anyway,
(32:06):
I appreciate to call my friend eight hundred and ninety
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