JD Vance - January 31st, Hour 3

Sean sits down with Vice President JD Vance to discuss the struggles that President Trump has had to deal with since day 1.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload Hour.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
All Right, News round Up, Information Overload Hour, toll free
on numbers eight hundred and ninety four one sewn. If
you want to be a part of the program, we
will get to your calls. Final a half hour of
the program this Friday. And but first I want to
go to my interview. I did fly to Washington earlier
this week. I sat with the Vice President J. D.
Vance for a long and very frankly comprehensive interview. And

(00:27):
here is some of that interview.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
It's the Vice President, great to see you, good morning,
thank you for ast of all congratulations. All right, has
it sunk in yet? Hillbilly Elogy?

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Now the Vice President of the United States of America.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. You know, it hasn't sunk in.
And you know, I joke that I took two wrong
turns and I ended up, you know, a hall way
down from the Oval Office. And it's just an incredible thing.
You know, the first time I'd have actually been to
the Oval Office was with President Trump as his vice
president last Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Had never been to the Oval Office.

Speaker 6 (00:59):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
And you know he always talks.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
About you know, you have these executives Warren Heead's estate.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
The Oval office just has a particular power and.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
I certainly felt it, and it was just amazing to
stand in that room. And I remember at the time
thinking I wish that I had something profound to say,
and I just stood in there saying, Wow, this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
No, I had the same experience when I went in.
President Bush was in office at the time, and I
remember I thought it was surreal.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
I was like, is that really him?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
And it is a special place. And then of course
Trump has this little red button which next to him,
which is not the red button, which he screwed with me.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
About that actually, so he were just mid conversation, I
think we were with Senator Thune and Speaker Johnson, and
he has this sort of beautiful ornate wooden box on
his desk with a red button and he presses it
and he just kind of looks over at me and
I'm like, sir, is that it's something bad?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
And He's like, no, I just ordered a diet coke.

Speaker 7 (01:58):
Literally, I read button.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
And it comes running in. Then I'll ask you would
you like one?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I've known President Trump for over thirty years. Sure, I've
had a close relationship with him in all those years,
and he and I when he was going to run
thinking about running, we had arguments for hours deep into
the night about I said, I'm not voting for you
if you're not a conservative. You really are now getting
to know him very well, Sure, what have you learned
about him?

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Well, it's interesting.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
One.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
I've learned that he has the most interesting decision making
process of any person.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I've ever met.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
And I think it's what makes him such an effective leader,
is that when he actually is thinking about doing something,
he doesn't just ask like you know, his closest advisor
or some policy person. You know it's gonna affect a business,
He'll call the business to CEO, so he'll go and
try to talk to the workers. He tries to take
inputs from everywhere, and I think it's one of the
reasons why he's so in tune with where the American

(02:57):
people actually are.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
But it's also I.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Think one of the genius is of the way that
he makes decisions is that he actually tries to talk
to everybody. And that's something Honestly, I could write a
book just about the way that he gathers information from
all sources, and it's very unusual. I mean, Washington, most politicians,
you know, they'll if it's a national security issue, they'll
talk to their national security person and maybe you know,

(03:19):
somebody else in their office. If it's a business issue,
maybe they'll talk to a CEO. The President talks to everybody.
And that's a very, very profound thing about the way
that he actually operates in Washington.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I would describe him as a force of nature, and
there's nobody else like him. Yes, and I think in
many ways he's misunderstood as well, because I know the
personal side of him, and I know the business side
of him. And as we've seen hundreds and hundreds of
executive actions, and you've been here very a little over
a week now, yeah, pretty well, speed a light, it's

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speed of light.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
You know, we've i think, accomplished honestly, more in eight
days than the entire Biden administration accomplished in four years.
And of course the things that we're accomplishing are actually
good things, and the things they were accomplishing or mostly
bad things.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
But the president has incredible energy.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
I mean, this is something you hear other people say
about him, and it's hard to really appreciate it until
you're up close and personal. I don't know how much
he sleeps, or if he ever really sleeps.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I mean, you'll get phone calls from him.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I can answer that he doesn't sleep a lot.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
You'll get phone calls at one in the morning, and.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
He'll just you know, he'll talk about policy, and he'll
talk about your family, and he just there's something incredibly
energetic about him.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
But you sort of need that. Actually, the federal government.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Has become so sprawling and the bureaucracy is so unresponsive
to what the president actually wants to do that you
kind of need somebody in there who's constantly on.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
It's all gas, no breaks.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
That's certainly what we've seen the last you know, eight days.
I think it's what we'll see for the next four years.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know, when when you look at, for example, the
two biggest issues in this campaign, immigration and the economy. Sure,
and because that's impacting the people in Ohio of course,
right yeah, packed in their life hard and a lot
of mats. I've been really hurt. It was a study
that came out like fifty six percent of Americans can't

(05:09):
withstand a thousand dollars emergency. Sure, you know it would
be devastating for them. That scares me. I've been there,
I've lived there. I know you've been there. Of course,
not fun, not where you want to.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Be, not fun.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
Law.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
And when I think of, you know, the issue of
immigration in particular, I'm looking at we have known terrorists
in this country. We have known cartel members, known gang members,
we have known murderers, rapists, And I'm watching the reaction

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of the left and the left wing media and the Democrats,
and you know, we're back to Nazi fascists, Hitler, Stall
and Mussolini. And I'm like, what part of these other
people you're missing?

Speaker 4 (05:54):
No, it's it's totally crazy, Sean.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
And if you look, you know, there was the guy
who went viral if you days ago that we deported
seventeen violent criminal convictions and was actually saying the guy
from Ady, he was saying, I hate Trump, I love
Biden because Biden wanted me to stay in this country.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Is there a better endorsement of Donald J.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Trump that a violent criminal who shouldn't be in this
country doesn't like him? Because Donald Trump is actually enforcing
the immigration laws of this country.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
And it's everywhere Sean.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
It affects everybody from all walks of life. It's the
drug epidemic, it's the crime, it's the fact that if
you live along the southern border, you're affected by this
cartel activity.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
We've seen, Sean.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Just in the last couple of days, multiple cartel members
have fired at our own border patrol, And you ask yourself,
why wasn't that happening a couple of years ago, Because
they weren't empowered to do their job. The border has
become so lawless that we're actually engaging in military style
engagements just to regain control of our southern border. And

(06:55):
thank god we're actually doing it this time, because if
we had another four years of Biden and the Democrats
wide open southern border, it would permanently and I think,
irreparably transform this country. So, yeah, we're doing immigration enforcement
in a big way. We're also doing things to lower
the cost of energy, because of course, if we can
lower the cost of energy, we're going to make food
and housing, groceries, everything else more affordable for American citizens.

(07:19):
And that really is you're exactly right, That is that
the two prongs of the Trump agenda. We want to
create more prosperity, and we want to create more security
and we're doing a lot We're going to do a
lot more.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I want to ask about the economy in a second.
But we saw Tom Holman. I mean, I don't think
there's anyone talk about a force of nature. I've tried
to make them smile. I've had no luck. If you
pull that off, that would be a miracle. But I've
known him a long time. I have a great admiration for.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Him, me too.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
And almost ten thousand deportations and some of the toughest criminals.
Christinome out on that ice rate in New York yesterday.
She was on TV with us last night. Amazing ten
thousand in a week. The president looked for what eighteen
hundred a day, right, And you know that's a pretty
ambitious goal.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
It's ambitious, but you need a leader who sets ambitious
goals and actually holds people to meeting those goals.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
If you think we've got twenty plus.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Million illegal aliens in this country, we have got to
get these people out of our country and regain control
of our own border. And it's not just the people
that were deporting. If you look at the number of
illegal entries on January the nineteenth, the last day of
the Democrats administration, I believe the number was north of
thirteen hundred illegal entries. Five days later, we had already

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cut that by more than sixty percent, and I guarantee
we're going to cut it even further. It policy matters,
Elections have consequences, and President Trump ran explicitly on regaining
control of the border and redelivering American prosperity. That's exactly
what we're doing. And it is funny sean to hear
the media and the Democrats how about this and say, well,

(08:55):
you know this is bad, this is terrible. You know,
this is like you said, fast just nazi blah blah
blah blah blah. The President promised the American people he
was going to do this.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
They gave him a mandate, so now he's doing it.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
That's how democratic politics in this country works, and thank
god for that.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
If I was in your position or President Trump's position,
and I never will be, let's be clear, but if
I was, I think what would keep me up at
night is the fact that we have known terrorists in
the country, and we have murderers in the country, and
rapists and violent criminals, cartels, and gang members that I said,
I'm married about an attack on the homeland. Mister Vice President,

(09:34):
how worried are you?

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Well, look, I am worried, Sean, because we were given
a country with hundreds, maybe thousands, maybe more of known
terrorists that are in the United States of America thanks
to the open borders of the last administration. So it's
our job to worry about it so that hopefully we
can prevent that attack. So it's something that does keep
us up at night. It's something that the government is
working on very aggressively. We've got great intelligence services, we've

(09:59):
got great border enforcement. We're trying to identify the bad
guys and get them out of our country. Because look,
what you don't want to have happened, Sean, is let's
say we take a foreign policy action that some foreign
terrorist organization doesn't like. Well, now these guys they're not
in Syria or some foreign country. They're in our backyards,
they're in our cities. We have to get them out

(10:21):
to make the homeland safer, but also to empower the
president to do the things that he needs to do
when it comes to national security. So it does worry me,
but we also have a government that's actually tackling this issue.
It's getting better every single day.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
How do we find them? I mean, you have known terrorists,
but you don't know where they are. Non cartel members,
but you don't know where they are.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Well, it's crazy, Sean. Sometimes you're right, we don't know
where they are. Sometimes we actually do. And that's one
of the craziest things of the last week. Just for me,
you ask what is shocking to me, It's that many
of these violent criminals, we knew their addresses, we knew
their names. We just needed to send somebody, got to
go to their house and get them the hell out
of there. That really should shock the American people.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
We've known where they are exactly exactly, and we've known
they've had terroritized.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
We've known at least that they had violent criminal backgrounds,
and we haven't done anything until about eight days ago
when Donald Trump became the president of the United States. Again,
it really should shock the conscience of the American people.
One of the things you've heard on the campaign trail,
one of the criticisms of me and of the president
was well, yes, we have twenty million illegal aliens. We
have close to a million violent criminal, illegal aliens, and

(11:30):
we don't know where they are. It turns out we
actually do know where a lot of them are. We
just haven't had immigration enforcement and that's what's changed so
rad That.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Actually gives me hope that we can protect the homeland
because I would imagine if you're a terrorist and you're
in our country, you're not here to pursue a better
life for you and your children. You're here to plot, plan,
scheme the next attack on our homeland. And I lived
through nine to eleven. I don't want to live through
that again. I don't want to lose, of course, nine
hundred and seventy seven Americans again. Yeah, Caroline Levett, I

(12:01):
watched her yesterday. I thought you did a great job.
I agree, and Rachel I thought a star was born.
And it's a very hostile room as well. You had
your moment with Margaret Brennan, although I don't think she
had a very good day over the weekend my humble opinion,
but I watched her with the media and she was
very forceful. And then you turn over to NBC and

(12:23):
everyone from Liberal Joe to Joy Read to Nicole Wallace
and Rachel Maddow and you know, it's not. They're back
to their closing argument in the campaign. Sure, Nazi, fascist, racist, Hitler,
Stall and Mussolini. And I'm like, wow, it seems like
they haven't learned a thing. But here's my question, should
we should If they're going to go there and they're

(12:47):
going to make such insane allegations when you're trying to
get rid of criminals that have been murdering, raping, and
responsible for other crimes against violent crimes against Americans, why
are they even in a White House press brief here room.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Why you know what was so interesting?

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Just to give some more kudos to Carolyn is she
didn't have a massive binder and she did this incredible
briefing with all of the hostile media, and then somebody
asked her, where was your binder? And she said, my
binder is in my head. And I think there's something
very interesting about Donald Trump's approach to governances. He just
wants to hire smart, competent people to do the people's business.

(13:27):
He's not worried about what you look like, whether you're
gay or straight, whether you're black or white. He's just saying,
if you're smart and you're loyal to the American people,
you can have a place in my administration. I think
Carolyn really knocked it out of the park.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
But it does raise interesting question. I actually think that.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
We are looking very seriously about which reporters show up,
because if you're a reporter, even if you're biased towards
the left, absolutely we.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Want to answer your questions.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
If you're a propagandis for the Democratic Party, then we're
going to treat you like a propaganda's for the Democratic Party.
And one of the things that I think we've already
done again only eight days into this thing, is you
know who. It's not just who's not there, it's also
who is present. And Carolyn had a lot of new
media folks, a lot of young people who represent I
think the vanguard of news media in this country.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
She gave Matt.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Boyle from Breitbart and a question yesterday. These are actually
some of the people who are driving news in twenty
twenty five in America, and I think, frankly, the MSNBC's
the CNNs of the world. They should take the hint.
Your viewership is way down, your ratings are abysmal. Why
is it that especially young people are tuning into new media?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Maybe it's because instead.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Of engaging in propaganda, the new media is asking real questions.
I mean, Joe Rogan, one of the biggest voices in
American media now, he was a Bernie brew eight years ago.
This is not like some crazy right wing guy. This
is just a person who's asking questions. And unfortunately most
of the old old media they're just not interested in that.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
All right, we'll come back. More of my interview with
JDV coming up eight hundred nine four one.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
Shawn.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
We'll get to some of your calls coming up, final
half hour of the program. All right, we're going to
get to your calls in just a minute. Eight hundred
nine four one. Shawn is on number. But first a
few more minutes of my interview with the Vice President
from earlier this week, JD evans As.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I listened to them, and I watched Selena gome As
that viral video.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Her Lord, you know, I think interesting.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
Now.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I've talked to the family, as did President Trump. I
know that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did not. I
talked to Lake and Riley's family.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
I talked to Rachel Marn's family, mother of five. I
talked to Joscelyn Nungary's mother and grandfather, And I'm like,
where were the tears when a little thirteen year old
girl absolutely was brutalized and murdered and all these other
Americans murdered and raped and victims of violent crime, where.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Were the tears?

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Then it's a great point, Shawn, And there's something very
deranged in the mind of the far left in this country,
where I really do think that they feel more of
a sense of compassion for illegal aliens who have no
right to be in this country then they do their
fellow citizens.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
And that really has to change.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
And you know, when when Selena Gomez had her viral moment,
and of course there were a lot of other celebrities
who weighed in, I had people sending me photos of
little kids, sometimes kids the same age as my little children.
We've got, of course, a seven year old, a four
year old, three year old.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Scene by the way, thank you, someone's playing with your hair.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, we'll get to that.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
But you know, kids similar age to my children who
were murdered by criminal aliens in the United States of America.
And as an American leader, but also just as an
American citizen, your compassion belongs first to your fellow citizens.
It doesn't mean you hate people from outside of your
own borders. But there's this old school, and I think

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it's a very Christian concept by the way, that you
love your family, and then you love your neighbor, and
then you love your community, and then you love your
fellow citizens in your own country, and then after that
you can focus and prioritize the rest of the world.
A lot of the far left has completely inverted that.
They seem to hate the citizens of their own country
and care more about people outside.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Their own borders. That is no way to run a society.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
And I think the profound difference that Donald Trump brings
to the leadership of this country is that the simple
concept America first. It doesn't mean you hate anybody else.
It means that you have leadership. And President Trump has
been very clear about this that puts the interests of
American citizens first. And in the same way that the
British Prime Minister should care about Brits and the French

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should care about the French. We have an American president
who cares primarily about Americans and that's a very welcome change.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
What is President Shade doing?

Speaker 5 (17:35):
What is with Latimeric people looking after the Chinese. Putin
is looking after the Russians that they're entitled to do that.
Thank God, we now have an American president who's looking
after the citizens of his own country.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I hate to ask this question, I really do. And
because of my long standing friendship with the president. Sure,
we have had two would be assassins. I read these reports,
you would know a lot more about the details than
I would, of course, about Iranian assassination squads in the country. Yep,

(18:06):
you are, now, as they say, one heart beat away
from the presidency. Do you think about that? I mean,
God forbid that moment ever comes that. I mean, God forbid.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, I try not to think about it, Sean.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
I mean my attitude is I'm going to do as
good of a job as I can for the President
of the United States. Part of that, of course, is
learning from him and learning about this incredible group of
people that we have in the White House. And yeah,
part of the job is, God forbid, if something terrible happens,
I have to step into that role. But I think
President Trump is in incredible health. I think that we've

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got a great situation when it comes to security around
the president, and I really do think that he's going
to serve four years do a great job, and I'm
going to do as good of a job I can
for the American people.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's very low energy, like Joe North Carolina, Vegas.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
And California to day well, and of course on the
phone the whole time, taken call, you know, making phone
calls here.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
The other thing about his.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Energy level is he's extremely accessible, right, And I know
it's it's kind of shocking to the White House Press Corps,
to everybody in Washington that the president actually is engaged
in the people's government. That's, of course exactly what you want.
But it is a very radical departure from the last
four year.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
All right.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
That was Vice President J. D. Vansie went up to
Washington earlier this week. I thought he was phenomenal, unbelievably.
He is smart, he's intelligent, he is completely maga, and
he is resolved. All right, let's get to our busy phones. Karen,
is it my free state of Florida? Hey Karen, how
are you glad you called?

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Then?

Speaker 7 (19:41):
Thanks for checking in.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
Happy Friday, Thank you son, all the same to you.
Welcome to Florida, Hey Son, I'm just concerned about one thing,
and the two questions do you consider DEI and affirmative
action one and the same. And I'll let you answer that.
But the reason I asked that quest question if it
seems like they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

(20:03):
I mean, if you look at the definitions and the
purpose for affirmative action, well documented issues, and it was
all about hiring or training or educating, especially blacks who
make the ground for a little more Even now I'm
hearing too many conservatives and Republicans, etc. Say you know DEI,

(20:26):
and they're incorporating transgender, gay, white, black, and then they're
throwing in the black and the race and everything. They're
throwing everything in that window and saying we have to
get rid of it. So that question is do we
consider it one and the same. And then the other
question is any of the DEI laws, did they ever
tell any of those companies hire them or put them

(20:47):
in the position, but don't train them. I don't think so.
So there has to be some blame and onnus on
the companies as well. If you bring them in because
you are trying to make the ground a little more leveled,
you still need to train those people.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Well, a lot of companies now are getting rid of
DEI programs that they've adopted. They've they've been frankly pressured
to adopt by the Left. Now, of course there's crossover.
DEI just goes and expands out so far. You know,
for example, we were discussing the tragedy of this collision

(21:22):
that took place, this mid air collision in Washington, d C.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
And now that we find out.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
That they were suffering from quality control issues and staffing shortages.
But you know, more importantly, you know, when you get
to the DEI aspect that was put in place since
twenty thirteen, where they prioritized politics and DEI over you
know what was smart and safe for the American people.

(21:51):
I mean, it's absolutely it's it's madness. I mean, to
hire workers with severe intellectual disabilities that the fa to
hire people with psychiatric problems at the FAA, that's too
important a job. And let me be very clear, I'm
against discrimination, I really am. And I want to point
out one another thing. Without these programs being they weren't

(22:16):
really highlighted in Trump's first terms. WOKE was somewhat new
to the our vernacular, but without it. Donald Trump set
record low after record low unemployment levels for African Americans,
Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace, and African
American youth unemployment. His economic policies did that. And so

(22:38):
in that sense, as long as every American, which I
believe is created by God, and every human is created
by God and has talent from God, is given a
fair shot and then not discriminated against, which I find repulsive,
then I think you just hired. I'm against discrimination, but
I am for meritocracy. But I'm also for moving schools,

(23:01):
especially in areas that have that. We have failed our
children miserably. I mean, we have failed our kids at
a spectacular level. And as a result, the latter to
success in America, which is education, has been denied many
children with God given talent an opportunity to have, you know,

(23:22):
the rungs in the ladder to success, and a lot
of those kids come from areas that are heavily minority
areas in the country. We're failing these children, We're failing
God's children, and we got to fix that. Anyway, I
hope that answers your question.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Good call Matt in Memphis Tennessee. Hey, Matt, how are
you happy Friday? Glad you called?

Speaker 7 (23:42):
Yeah, I'm good. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (23:45):
Oh you're a real hot person. Get hold I can
tell you that. Hey, thanks for taking my call. I
really do appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
My time is no more. Time is limited. So there's
there's just two points on this that I kind of
want to make or whatever. First, well, it's a Swiss
cheese factor that we that we all talk about, and
he talked to any air traffic controller knows. And second
of all is the questions that I would be answering.
But the Swiss cheese factor. I watched the ratio replay

(24:14):
and listened to the audio of it, and the phraseology
was not correct on either part, whether it was a
pilot or the air traffic controller. So the air traffic
controller should have issued traffic twelve o'clock one mile you
have the RJA inside. He didn't do that. Now I
can understand that is because he was very busy. And
the pilot again came back and he said, yeah, have

(24:36):
I have the traffic insite?

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Now?

Speaker 6 (24:38):
How you said I have the traffic at like one
two o'clock. The control would have said no, let's not
the traffic. So I get it. Anybody out there, any
air traffic controller, if they said they have not short
cuts of something or so they haven't got the Begieva
scare out of them, then they're either new of their line.
So that's that's one. That's the first thing that I

(25:01):
initially heard. Also, there's las letters of agreement that the
airplanes are supposed to be at a certain outsuit and
he was above that. Now why that is, I don't know.
I have no idea not to mention in the air
traffic control ended up changing the run made the very
last second. Why because of compression Because somebody's on the
running don't know. So that was another hole in the

(25:22):
Swiss cheets. So and the controller isn't issuing traffic, not once,
but twice to the aircraft and the first time didn't answer.
And my assessment is now again I am not a
representative of IFA. I'm just giving you control my aspect
of it. But the pilots had the head down in

(25:42):
the cockpit, so the crew chief and the copilot were
probably looking where they were flying, and the pilot who
had the DAGs on maybe possibly domo. But it scares
their line of vision, so they said they called the
traffic inside, which was probably the wrong aircraft, I'm assuming,

(26:02):
and the other people in the aircraft didn't even think
anything about it before it was too late. So and
as far as the adsp and and and the tea
cask and everything else, from my understanding, when the the
black Hawk helicopter, they don't have those two equipments on
there because they don't want the enemy to know where

(26:25):
they're at. And when aircraft come down and they're sending
they end up either turning it down or trying it
off because there's so many aircraft coming into that area.
And not to mention, they pick up ground traffic, you know,
as as far as you know, trains or semis or
something like that, so they don't want to hear that

(26:45):
because they're focusing on coming in at Atlantic. Now, the
questions that I would ask.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Initially, you have to be a little quicker here because
you're almost running out of time, But go ahead make
your final thought because I think you're bringing up a
lot of good points.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Yeah, But the question that I would initially ask was
why weren't the position split? How long was the person
on position? How long were they on duty, how many
controllers were on duty, was a supervisor up there? How
many people were on break with venue over time?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
We know one person left, we know they were short staff.
We know one person was doing two people's jobs. We
know they'd been numerous near missus at that airport. You know,
there's a lot that we've learned. We know that the
FA put out stern warnings now going back a number
of years, and that pothole pee Buddha judge did nothing.
It doesn't bring comfort to the families, but we already

(27:36):
have the building blocks to take the steps necessary to
prevent this from happening. And all of the points that
you're making maybe a little technical for some in the audience.
I'm a little more familiar with aviation and I know
exactly what you're talking about. You're raising very critical, important
questions that I'm sure the NTSP is going to get
to by the time all of the sudden done. But

(27:58):
I got to talk to you about it all day,
and we'll we'll have more on Hannity tonight. I wish
I had more time, but I will say this, as
an air traffic controller, your job is important. You need
you need to have you know incredible abilities to multitask
that make fast decisions, and an ability you know to
to really really dial in and focus and know your job.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
It is a hard, hard job.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And all the points that you're making are dead on accurate,
and I thank you for keeping the air safe. For
the most part, our errors are safe. But we have
staffing problems, and now we have other problems that we're
discovering as well. Anyway, I appreciate what you do with
all air traffic controllers do, and we got we got
to get some people trained fast. By the way, if

(28:46):
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