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Our two Sean Hannity's show toll Free. It's eight hundred
and nine fold one. Sean, you want to be a
part of the program, let me play Jeff Bezos because
I've got all this economic horrific news that we're going
to go over with Steve Moore and our friend David
Bonson in a second here. But listen to what say
what you will about Jeff Bezos. A lot of these billionaires,
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they're not dumb, they're not stupid. I don't like their
politics in many cases, but they know the economy and
they don't how to make money, and they're worth listening to. Listen.
We are in some tough economic times. Some people say
that perhaps we're already in a recession. Do you think
that we're in one? And what is your advice for
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small business owners? I don't know whether we're technically in
a recession. I know economists argue over that, and they
have certain technical definitions. What I can tell you is
the economy does not look great right now. Things are
slowing down. You're seeing layoffs in many, many sectors of
the economy. People are slowing down. The probabilities say, if
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we're not in a recess, right now. We're likely to
be in one very soon. So the other economic news,
we have Bloomberg reporting that Biden's economic team is going
to undergo a shake up. I mean, how could they
not undergo shake up? Inflation is transitory forty one year high,
gas prices are coming down. Yeah, of course, we're compromising
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national security by rating the strategic petroleum reserves. And guess what.
Gas prices are going up and you're heating bills this
year expected to be forty five percent higher in some places,
maybe more than it was last year. You know, wait,
wait for this winner. It's not going to be good.
Biden's Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen plans to stay at her
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post longer than some of the Council of Economic Advisors.
Their chairwoman Cecilia Rouse, will leave the Biden White House
next year, and National Economic Council Director Brian Deese, as
one of Biden's top economic advisors, he's going to leave.
They're jumping ship because they know there's no end in
sight here. They don't want to be a part of it.
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You have a major investment firm then did just outright
blaming Biden's inflation for draining twenty five percent from Americans
retirement accounts. This was on CNBC. The average four oh
one K balance sank for a third consecutive quarter, now
down twenty three percent just from one year ago, and
the average individual retirement account also plunge twenty five percent
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year over year. I mean, this is a serious money.
Did you add that to the plunging home sales? This
was in the Wall Street Journal. October sales fell twenty
eight point four percent. What did I tell you new
home sales would come to a screeching halt, sale of
pre existing homes would come to a screeching halt, and
home values would deteriorate. That's now happening. It's unbelievable. And lastly,
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now we have toymakers anticipating that families are not going
to have a very merry Christmas anyway, that are trying
to help families that are struggling, which is seventy percent
of Americans now living paycheck to paycheck, and they're making
toys this holiday season. They're unveiling a new line of
over two hundred smaller, more affordable items priced at ten
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bucks or less. We see that consumers now have less
money to spend with gas prices, you know, as insane
as they are inflation as insane as it is. MG
A Entertainment CEO Isaac Larion was on with Steve Doocy
on Fox and Fronts. So you know, miniature brat stalls
are one of the items they're offering consumers this holiday
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season because you know, they understand the reality people are
not going to be able to afford these expensive toys
that they once did. Anyway, here for prospective Steve Moore,
member of the President President Trump's Economic Recovery Task Force,
and David Bonson as with us founding and managing partner
of the Bonson Group. Good to have you both back.
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Steve Morrels, I'll start with you, Yeah, is it going
to get that bad in Western Europe? Germany in particular,
and is it coming here? Well, you summarize it so well, Shan.
I mean, you look at what's happened in not just Germany,
you mentioned Germany, but look at the UK where they're
paying eight nine ten dollars a gallon for gasoline, where
they have ten eleven percent unemployment rates, where they're the
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idiot government there is wanting to raise taxes in a recession,
which is that breaks the first law of economics. So
is this coming here? Well, we'll see. You know, you
mentioned the fact that the you know, people are leaving
them finally leaving the Bide administration. When you said that,
I thought, hooray, maybe they'll get some As you know,
I did that study that you and I talked about
about two or three months ago that there were no
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people with any business experience in the Biden administration. But Sean,
I don't think that they're going to replace any of
those people like Janet Yellen and others with business people.
They don't like business people, They hate business people. They
think that they're rubber bearans or something. So am I pessimistic? Yes?
In one last point I would make to add to
the ray of statistics as you had boxed News reported
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today and if you saw it, Chue that for the
first time, maybe in your in my lifetime, the United
States has become it's going to become an import or
of food because we can't we can't grow the food
here because our armagury prices are so high. I mean,
we're supposed to be the bread basket of the world
for goodness sakes. Yeah, well apparently not. David. Let's get
your take on this, well, I mean, there's a whole
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lot of factors going on. I think the idea of
the council members both Brian and Passiliad an EC and
a Tea leaving would be a good thing if I
had a confidence in better people coming in. And yet
the name I'm hearing in one of those two roles
is Gene Sperling. It was the old Obama an EC had,
and he'd been in the Clinton side before then. But
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when he was on the Clinton side, you remember, I
hate to say anything nice about old Democratic advisors, but
you know they had a couple of people that were
reasonably pro all our pro markets. And the fact matter
is seen Spurling spent his time back in the nineties
fighting with those people, and then he came in and
the Obama side and was as big government, big state,
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big regulation as they come. So of course I don't
have any confidence they'll replace them with more free marketeers
and more people who believe in the idea of a
free society that the three of us believe in. But
ultimately their problem is that they're bad at doing policy
because they have a bad philosophy that they're rooting it
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in They do not believe in human beings making free
decisions in their own lives. They believe in central planners,
and all we're dealing with right now is the mess
that that creates. You know, I'm watching all this unfold
and one thing that I talked at length about when
General Bulldock was running for the Senate in New Hampshire
and we had him and Governor Chris Nunu on Steve
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Moore and the Epic Times has reported on this extensively,
as have other locations. But you know, they're now talking
about a very very real possibility of a blackout throughout
New England. Now all of New England is on one grid,
they're on the same grid, and that impacts obviously the
entire northeast. Now they're expecting at the possibility that they
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may not have enough natural gas available to run the grid,
meaning that you're going to have blackouts all throughout New
England all throughout the winter, on top of the forty
five percent anticipated increase in heating your home being gas
or oil. Now, if that happens, that's a game changer.
What are people supposed to do? Then? Well, you know, what,
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are we a third world country or we have been
out a republic that we're running out of electric power.
I mean, this is an outrage, and incidently it goes
back to what's happened in Europe. You see, we should
have learned the lesson from Europe, because, as you just said, Sean,
that Europe tried the green under nonsense five or ten
years ago. It completely failed. In Germany, there was an
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article in one of the major German newspapers recently that
because they're gonna have blackouts, they're recommending people ready for
this one by candles. Wow, people, I have bike candles.
And then then you know what they're doing for heat.
They're they're using wood fires. I mean, it's why what
was this the stone ages? This screen energy thing is
a farce. It is going to cause real damage the
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people is gonna It's not just gonna be more expensive,
it's gonna cause human lives. I mean, when it gets cold,
I'm from Chicago, Sewane, it can get five to ten
degrees below zero at night. You don't have your home heat,
you know, you're just causing real problems. And so the
price of home heating oil and the price of diesel,
two of the major forms of energy have doubled gone
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doubled in price since since Trump left up And that's
if you can get it at that price at all.
You know that that is a very very scary scenario
that's unreal to me. And I said, actually before the election,
I said, David, I wish we were having Election Day
in February because when people see they get the sticker
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shock of trying to heat their homes. I mean, this
will go beyond Jimmy Carter suggesting that you loi a
thermostat to what sixty eight and wear a sweater in
your own home. People are not going to be willing
to compromise on the heat that they're most comfortable with,
right And of course the hard part is predicting weather
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and some of the other factors. We know it's freezing
in the Northeast and freezing in Chicago and some of
those areas, and those shortages are a very real possibility.
I think in Europe they do look like they're going
to have a little bit less severe of a winter
than it could have been, and yet it's still right
now completely unaffordable, bringing in all kinds of state intervention
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and the METS. And I just want to point out
that it took two to tango here. Germany and other
European nations decided to go into a energy policy and
not be prepared to import liquefied natural gas, and the
US what did their green policies? And we're not in
a position to export liquified natural gallery, and that takes preparation.
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We can't just flick a switch now and make it
happen and meet the needs of humanity with our own resources.
And Steve pointed out what people could lose their lives.
That's true if people were breathing it up in their homes.
But let me just point out that they already have
because Putin invaded Ukraine because he knew that he had
a leverage over environmental policy. That it was not for
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the greenias, he never would have done it. You know
the fascinating thing, Steve, did you read any of these
articles that suggested that that secretly Russia was funding some
of the environmentalists extreme groups in Western Europe and the
lead up to their dependency and abandonment of their own
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domestic energy production. So you know, it's so funny you
should mention that if you have seen some articles, I
can't verify that it's true, and I can't verify what
I'm about to say is true, but it's the suspicion
of mine that the major countries that are oil producing
countries like Lashia, like Saudi Arabia, like Iran are actually
punding our US green energy groups to convince people to
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shut down American energy because Sean. Who do you think
has been the biggest beneficiary of this brain dead Biden
energy policy. It's been Russia, It's been pudent, It's been
the Saudis, It's been the Iranians. We are playing. By
the way. Meanwhile, I mentioned this on your TV show
a couple of weeks ago. China. You know the Sean
China is building twenty five coal plants, massive coal plants.
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We shut down a coal plant in West Virginia. They
built three new coal plants in China. How does that
reduce climate change? It doesn't. I mean, this is the point.
So it's sort of like the electric vehicle of myth
David twenty two grand more than a gas powered car. Then,
of course you have to pillage mother Earth to get
the minerals to build the batteries that are not very efficient.
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John Stossel at a great column I referenced earlier in
the New York Post today. And what's fascinating about this is, Okay,
you pay twenty two grand more. You have to pillage
Mother Earth using big equipment that uses diesel to get
the nickel, the cobalt, and the manganese, and build the
batteries that are not efficient. And then if you're allowed
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to charge your batteries, it's during the right hours. In California,
ninety plus percent of our electric grid is fueled by
you got it, fossil fuels. So tell me how that
works out. How does that benefit the environment? Well, exactly.
And here's where I hate to do it, but I'm
probably going to disagree with my friend Steve Moore because
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I don't think you need. I ran for Russia to
fund this because it's giving an excuse to the severity
of how radical our own home grown environmentalist start. That
implies that they don't really believe it, and I think
they do. I think that they're that dangerous in this
radical ideology that has a sort of a pantheistic nature
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to it about Earth and a completely anti science understanding
what's going on right now at fossil fuel innovation. We
first of all, it's very simple. We cannot meet the
needs of humanity without fossil fuel. And secondly, we are
already doing a better job using fossil feel to emit
less carbon. Both of those things are happening, and both
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those things are facts, and so I want us to
be the party of facts, and they apparently opposed science.
It's amazing how that label has been so rebranded. Quick break,
welcome back. All right, we continue our examination of this
disaster of an economy and record high energy prices we're
anticipating to heat your homes. This winner, Steve Moore and
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David Monson are with us. How bad is this all
going to get? Final thoughts, Steve Moore, I want to
add something to what you guys were just saying. You
know who else is a big, big funder of the
big green radical movement. This guy fam I was a
named bankman, you know, the promster. Yeah, he was funding
all this stuff because he knew it would win pleasure
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and relief from the Democrats in Congress. So it's these
that we're being used, We're being played Sean by these groups.
It could get a lot worse. I think that the
good news is with the Republican Congress. I was just
speaking with much of the new members. The number job
number one is to restore American energy dominance. And that's
everything our nuclear, our coal, our oil, our gas. Everything
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we got sean. Oh scary times, and I think they're
going to get worse. How do you both agree with me?
Things are going to get far worse before they get better.
N The only reason why I can't say they get
far worse is because I still believe that the American ingenuity,
the American enterprise system can surprise us. And and what
I do know is that policymaking will get worse with
this administration. But you know, I don't want to I
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don't want to put it out there that we think
a certain data point's gonna get worse and then it doesn't.
That's happened before for all of us. Right. What we
know is we can do better. We can do a
lot better, and that's where it needs to happen. I
agree with Steve. The lowest thinging fruit is energy independent.
When we get a better situation governmentally, we can deal
with tacks. I would like us to one day start
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dealing with spending. Maybe someone's can understand how much successive
indebtedness is a reason why we're getting subpar economic growth.
So yeah, I think it probably gets worse, But my
main agenda is what we can do to fight against
it with the engines of American capitalism. I appreciate you both.
Thank you, Steve Moore and David Bonson eight hundred nine
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f one shan on number. If you want to be
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nine four one sean if you want to be a
part of the program. So James Comer and Jim Jordan,
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we've been having them on radio and TV now regularly,
and now that Republicans have taken charge of the House,
I have said it is a massive, massive victory that
a lot of people I don't think understand the magnitude
of in as much as if you're in the majority,
well you get all the committee heads. If you're in
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the majority, you have the power to subpoena. If you're
in the majority, you set the agenda. If you're in
the majority, you have the power of the purse as well.
You know, it's interesting with the announcement that the doj
of Joe Biden. Merrick Garland has appointed a special counsel
to go after Donald Trump yet again. You know, here
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we go one more time. But yet they've done nothing
with Hunter Biden's laptop from how that they've had for years,
and we've gone into great specificity, in great detail about
Hunter Biden and about his lap top and about how
it implicates Joe. Senator Ron Johnson was asking FBI Director
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and by the way, this is one of the investigations
Jim Jordan on the Judiciary Committee will be leading. He
explained it on this show this week, into whether or
not our FBI has been politicized. We have whistleblowers saying
it has been politicized to a scary level, and whether
our dj has been weaponized. Maybe it's one of the reasons,
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you know, they're punting to a special Council to get
out of it because with the special Council investigating Joe
Biden and his zero experience son Hunter, now that we
know fifty countries that were making deals with and Joe
was up to his eyeballs in it all, and you're
talking about you know, anywhere from one hundred million dollars
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upwards of money's made with fifty separate countries, including hostile
regimes like China and Russia and Ukraine and Kazakhstan at
the time. And yet you know they've had this laptop,
they've done nothing with it. And we know that there
are crimes, evidence of crimes that have been committed. Where's
the special counsel there? And this has to be dealt with.
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Do we have equal justice under the law and equal
application of our laws? It would appear in America, we
don't have it. Listen, have you read Sander Grassley's and
my report one Hunter Biden's Corruption issued in September of
twenty twenty. In November twenty twenty, have you read those reports?
I have had a chance to look at it. Do
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you see any sign of Russian disinformation those reports? That
would be a hard question for me to answer. Oh,
it's very easy, It's very easy. But I would say
it's a very easy answer. There is no Russian disinformation
that that report is completely clean of any interference of
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foreign influence. Now, what's amazing about this is what the
Republicans now control the House the first time in whatever
many years, the administration. Now they're going to have their
feet held to the fire. And that means Joe Biden.
He has long been accused, along with his son and
his brother, of public corruption, of influence pedaling, as it's called,
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but not not just your ordinary public corruption. But now
they have bank records, they have government documents, they have
the laptop from Hell. And the issue is whether or
not your president is compromised based on business dealings with
these foreign adversaries, and whether they sold access at the
highest levels of our federal government to such even countries
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that hate us. And of course you all being led
by his struggling, crack addictedt son at the time, Hunter Biden,
and Hunter with no experience. You know, there was evidence
that Joe met with at least fourteen of these individuals
between twenty ten and twenty eighteen. Now, rightly, Republicans are
demanding answers. Don't forget Tony Bobolynski said he sat in
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on one of those meetings. He was on Hannity last
night and saying, yep, that took place. What Joe said
is absolutely a lie. You know, it's important that this
be fully investigated. But where's that special counsel Anyway, Let's
get to our busy telephones. Riches in Florida, Rich High.
How are you glad you called? Sir? How you doing, Sean?
Thanks for taking my call, Thanks for calling. I'm worried
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about I'm worried about the investigation being brought out against
President Biden and Hunter through Hunter's laptop. Yeah, what are
you worried about? Well? Is it going to lead to
an impeachment for the president and will it be will
also lead to a conviction for Hunter? I can't answer
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that because I've been very very clear and explaining on
this show and on TV is I do not believe
that we have equal justice and application of our laws
in this country. I think there's one set of rules
for the Clintons. You know, if you want to look
at top secret classified information, go back to the July
press conference of Jim Comey. He admitted all of this
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was discovered on Hillary Clinton's you know, servers, but yet
no prosecutor would prosecute. Then why are we making a
big deal over the hundred quote top secret classified information documents?
They found a Marilago, So they say, so, wouldn't that
be the same exact thing? Wouldn't that be an equivalent?
And you see the fervor with which they're going after
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Donald Trump, which they've always done. Now a second special
counsel on top of two separate impeachments. I mean, it
just never ends. The double standard has never been more
blatant than it is now. So I can't give you
any assurances except to say that, you know, unfortunately, I
feel like we're losing the country. I think that if
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we don't have equal justice and an application of our laws, now,
you might as well take your constitution and ShredIt because
every law is its foundation is that document. And you
know the fact that Director Ray and the FBI had
all of this information on Hunter, they had the laptop
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before anybody knew about it, and they did nothing with it.
And years have now passed and still there seems to
be nothing to be done. And the fact that it
does reach all the way up to Joe, you know,
you would think is something of great importance. So it's
disappointing him. But that's where we are. I'll give you
the last word, rich Well, I think I have to
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agree with you. One is it is a double standard,
and but two is because President Biden is lying and
Republicans have control of the House Why don't we have
indictments against both of them? Is what I understand. Yeah, look,
I mean I think there's no explanation for it except
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we are not applying our laws equally. That's the only explanation.
And if I would argue if the laptop from Hell
was had by a Trump, then you know where that
would end up. Rich appreciate it. Thanks for being with us.
Eight hundred nine one, Sean, you want to be a
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part of the program. Jason North Carolina. What's up, Jason?
How are you glad you called? Yes, sir, I can
understand your reluctance for believing Biden. But in my training,
in my experience over the years seen to watch somebody speak,
but it's even been more important to listen to what
they're saying, what they're not saying, and how they're saying it. Okay, specifically,
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what are you referring to you with the Ukraine thing?
Because he initially said no right when some may asked
him what he wanted or if he heard about the
or the missile strikes. Right when he said that, if
you listen to it, he's sound annoyed and confused. Is
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early in the day for him. Later when he was
asked more about it and said, it leads to my
belief is that Russia did not launch them. When he's
speaking there, he actually sounds like he's sort of disappointed
to have to report that because there's plenty of people
I believe that would love to see us get involved
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in another form conflict. So with that said, curious what
your take is on where we stand right now, what
actions currently. Well, look, every everybody's speaking with one voice.
I'm a little suspicious. There were reports that are intelligence
officials on the ground got to the site of where
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this took place in Poland. You're talking about the striking
Poland in record time. Other eligence agencies from other NATO allies,
they got there. The only look, I'm not I'm not
questioning whether or not what they're saying is true. I'm
not Is it a possibility that in a defensive posture
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stopping cruise missiles and sending up defensive weapons to take
them out that Ukraine, you know, might have caused one
of them missiles to go into you know, Polish territory.
I think it's possible, but ballistics would probably show this
and bear this out very quickly, and that's the one
thing we haven't gotten any information on, and I just
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would like a thorough explanation rather than the trust us explanation.
They're the same people that said trust us your kids
native vaccine. Trust us. You know, I'm I don't trust
any of these people anymore, and trust us, and that's
how we end up in our wrap the second time. Yeah, well,
trust us and a lot of good. We can't fight
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wars this way anymore, and now we have the technology
to handle this anyway. Appreciate the call eight hundred nine
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is up next. Hang on for Shaun's conservative solutions. All right,
let's go back to our busy phones eight hundred and
ninety four one, Sean, if you want to join us,
Jay is in Pennsylvania. Jay, Hi, how are you welcome
to the program? Yeah, A you're doing, Sean. I just
one question and then maybe just a couple of comments. So,
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I mean, do you really think that Jim Jordan and
a couple other Republicans starting an investigation against the Biden's
is really going to bring to fruition anything of importance,
because here's my comments side of it. You know, I
work for state entity. I actually worked for State of Maryland.
I'm not going to say what I do or who
I work for. UM. You know, coming in the door,
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you're gung ho and you know you want to do
the best you can, and then when you get here
you realize, oh well, these guys are standing around telling
you burst, slow down. And then what ends up happening
is it's part of a culture. You become what your
environment is. And basically most of the people that go
to DC, you know, they have attentions that they want
to do good things, but then when they get there,
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they realize, oh well, you got to get your hands dirty.
And let's face it. You know, I've been listening to
you and Russia, Limball and Mark Levin. I've been listening
to you guys for years, and it seems like every
time I think that one of these dirty politicians are
gonna get in trouble, they escape. I mean, look at
the Clinton's, look at the Benghazi, look at the lowest
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learner in the in the targeting of conservative nonprofit organizations.
I mean, look at all the crazy stuff that's happened,
and just in the lad twenty years that I've been
paying attention and nothing ever happens. And I don't understand why.
Let me, let me give let me take my best
shot at answering your question. Unfortunately, in my view, there's
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way too many of our fellow Americans that have bought
into this socialist utopia, dream climate, alarmism, cultism, whatever you
want to call it. A lot of people have bought
into this. And I'm trying to warn people in a
way that is based and rooted in reality, in truth,
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because I'm not Polyannish. Number One, I don't like to
overpromise an underdeliver. I was not hedging my bets on
the election. I was giving you my realistic take of
how difficult it would be for Republicans to win certain states.
And I really believe we have two things going on simultaneously.
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People believe this crap umber one and more than we think,
and that's a problem. And number two, the issue of
what I call accelerated migration, where you have these you know,
people saying, Okay, I'm tired of shutdowns, lockdowns, I'm tired
of my kids not having in person learning. I'm tired
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of high taxes, I'm tired of you know, oppressive government
this and that, and so we're gonna go. We're gonna
almost a baby boomer retirement age. Anyway, Let's let's head
down the Carolinas. Let's head down to Tennessee. Florida is
getting the biggest influx of any state. Texas getting the
second biggest influx of any state. Let's get the hell
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out of here. Okay, Now where are they leaving from.
They're leaving from New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. They
go to the east coast to Florida or Central Florida. Okay,
that makes each one of those states bluer. In the Midwest,
Michigan and Wisconsin, in Indiana and Illinois, they're going to
the west coast Florida and Central Florida. That makes all
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of those states bluer. That makes sense. Yep, I wish,
I wish I had a better message. But you know,
and here's the thing about the people that have bought
into the big lie of socialism is it always ends
the same way. They're gonna We're gonna have more poverty,
all these promises will be unfulfilled, and then we will
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calculate and determine how much of our freedom we lost
in the process. That has been the history of socialism,
whatever name for manifestation it is. And that's my fear
for the country. That's we have a math problem now
in terms of who is going to be able to
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get as a Republican, as a conservative, two hundred and
seventy electoral votes to win the presidency. I'm not saying
it can happen. I am saying it's harder to make sense. Yes,
it does. So everybody needs to think about that. Now,
with pain, you're gonna wake a lot of people up.
You know, the more painful these winters become, the more
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you're paying for inflation and gas, and the more illegal
immigration has taken hold, and the more defunding the police
and nobel laws creates more crime, and the more woke
schools become, people are going to just get fed up
and wake up to the fallacy of what they've been told.
But when that happens, I can't predicts. That's a little
scary