June 21, 2022 • 33 mins
Horace Cooper, legal commentator and Co-Chair of the Black Leadership Network Project 21 and author of "How Trump is Making Black America Great Again and Jordan Sekulow, Executive Director of the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), discusses the opinions coming from the Supreme Court today, one in particular the Carson V Makin case, where the ACLJ participated in the filing.
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be a part of the program. So we did get
a Supreme Court decision in today, We're expecting I think
seventeen more. Um, they should be coming pretty in the
next couple of weeks for sure. Um. We'll get to
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the case that came in today. This is the Carson v.
Making case. It has to do with the Montana Supreme
Court striking down a state program giving tax credits to
those that donated to organizations providing scholarships to private schools.
The h LJ was involved in it. We'll talk to
Jordans Seculo about it and Horace Cooper in just a minute.
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We now have the final opinions of the court about
to come out. You know, we have the five biggest obviously,
one is Kennedy versus a Bremington School District high school
player lost his job after insisting on reciting postgame prayers
on the fifty yard line despite his employer, the school district,
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instructing him to stop. He's claiming that violated his First
Amendment right to freedom of speech and the free exercise
of religion. That's going to be interesting. Biden versus Texas
now that centers on the administration's migrant protection protocols commonly
known as remain in Mexico policy. That's going to be
a very key decision. Although we know that Biden doesn't
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obey the law anyway, he's aiding and abetting and lawbreaking.
One very big case I'm paying very close attention to
is New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruin
and possibly maybe the biggest Second Amendment case before the
Supreme Court in more than a decade, and the justices
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will decide whether New York's process for obtaining a license
to carry a concealed handgun is overly restrictive. Then we
have West Virginia versus the EPA, and you know, it's
a case that actually consolidated to be decided together four
cases actually, and it is you know, it's it's at
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issue is whether the EPA has the power to issue
sweeping rules that could overhaul industry practices and the country's
electricity grids. By the way, as we are now on
the verge of brown out blackout. Another one that we're
paying attention to is the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health
Organization case, and the anticipation for the ruling in that
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case has led to protests outside the Supreme Court. This
is where Chuck Schumer. You know, we've Chuck Schumer. If
any other American made this threat to specific justices on
the steps of the Supreme Court, I would imagine if
Sean Hannity did it. Sean Hannity would be in deep
legal trouble today. Listen, I want to tell you, of course,
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such I want to tell you Kavanaugh, you have released
the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won't
know what hit you if you go forward with these
awful decisions. You won't know what you You have released
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the whirlwind. You will pay the price. Wow. Now, thank
god we uncovered as an assassination plot against Justice Kavanaugh.
But in light of that, Merrick Garland and Christopher Ray
seem unwilling to pretty much do anything to stop the protesting.
It's against the law talked at length about at US
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eighteen Code section fifteen oh seven. You can't intimidate or
harass judges in front of their homes like this, especially
when they're in the process of making a decision, and
as now the justices will be issuing their final opinions
in this term. It's sad, but you know now we
have security measures because violence cannot be ruled out. They're
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sending around flyers all over Washington, DC, calling to action
a night of rage and the night of the Supreme
Court overturns Roe v. Wade hits the streets. You know, basically,
they're saying it's time to riot continues our oppressors. If
abortions aren't safe, you are not either. Remember that Jane's
Revenge written in one particular case. So what's going to
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happen here? I don't know. I really don't anyway. Horace Cooper,
legal commentator, co chair of the Black Leadership Network Project
twenty one, author of the bestseller How Trump Is Making
Black America Great Again. Jordan Seculo, executive director for the ACLJ,
the American Center for Law and Justice, which, by the way,
in the case of car s B making, they participated
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in the filing in this case. And I guess you're
pretty happy today. But anyway, the Montana Supreme Court had
struck down a state program giving tax credits to those
that donated to organizations providing scholarships to private schools because
the program conflicted with the states constitutional provision prohibiting state
aid to sectarian private schools. How do you feel about
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the decision, Jordan's secular. It's really exciting, sean for school choice.
That's what this ultimately is about, because it gives states
a kind of pathway to set up these programs and
to understand they're not going to create a constitutional crisis
by letting parents choose which schools they want to send
their children if they set up a school choice program
and that includes religious schools as well. And what the
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court here has done for the second time in two years,
first out of Montana, now out of Maine, has said
that if you set up this program and you try
to exclude religious schools, that is anti religion, that is
anti the First Amendment. That's a violation of the free
exercise of religion. And Sean, that is very important because
for people who do watch the court carefully in religious
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liberty cases in school choice cases, they know that the
free exercise of religion has been kind of beat up
and ignored by the Supreme Court for a few decades
since the nineteen sixties and seventies. The fact that it's
back with some teeth and it means something is also
very important. So two big wins there, one for school choice,
one for religious liberty. Let's get your take, hors Cooper, Well,
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I absolutely agree with that. I think it has been
shameful that we have the state policies that say to people,
your citizen, you contribute your tax dollars, but if you
hold certain views that animate from faith, you aren't allowed
to participate, you aren't allowed to benefit. That's pir say discrimination. Now,
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if you don't want to give tax dollars to any
schools or to any private schools, that is different. But
what they've done here is they attempted to penalize people
solely on the basis of their faith. And I am
so thrilled that the Supreme Court came squarely down on
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the position that that is an animus. That is unconstitutional,
It's not allowed. Let me ask you both both about
First of all, we were able to thwart and stop
a plot to assassinate a Supreme Court justice. We see
the tacit approval of the Biden White House in terms
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of toxing of Supreme Court justices. And literally now they've
gone as far as to give out Amy Coney Barrett's
the name of her children's school, the name of the
church that she attends, how often she attends church. That
seems beyond the pale to me. It's also my view,
my interpretation of eighteen USC. Fifteen oh seven, this is
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intimidation and harassment of a justice. There have been forty
nine incidents of violence, according to the Susan B. Anthony
Pro Life America group, vandalism harassment by pro abortion activists.
Since May second and the leak of the draft Supreme
Court opinion that would potentially overturn Row, there's been fire
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bombings that have taken place, I think some twenty of
them around the country of Molotov cocktails. And yet I
don't see Merrick Garland or direct Array all upset about
what's happening to our Supreme Court justices. Jordan, what do
you think, Well, Sean, they don't have to. As you said,
you cited the US Code. If you're outside of judge's
house protesting because of a specific case, it can't be
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any clear that's not protected speech in the United States.
You're trying to influence an official. That's so it's not
a free speech issue at all. They've got the legal
authorities shut it down. But as you said, they're ignoring that,
and they're trying to confuse I think the public with thinking, oh, well,
people have free receipts, they can protest. Maybe they don't
like that. That's not the case. There's a specific law
in the books. There's absolutely constitutional and says you can't
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do this to influence a decision. And we know these
protests are specific to the Dob's case and on roversus
way in abortion. The second, when you talk about the violence,
you know what the sick thing is about these attacks
on pro life pregnancy centers or crisis pregnancy centers. The
group that is claiming responsibility for these attacks Jame's Revenge,
the same group saying they're going to riot in Washington.
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D C. Sean has said that this is just the beginning,
that the attacks will only increase. Well, if you've already
firebombed in the office, you know, at night, knowing that
people probably aren't there, what's the next level of attack.
The next level of attack is people possibly getting injured.
So they're threatening actual violence against people, not just property.
That's what I think. The second is just a few
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days ago, but just released today. Democrat members of the
House and sent it sent a letter to the Google
CEO saying that they want that the pro life pregnancies
sitners are engaged in misinformation and they don't want them
into Google searches, and they want to be flagged in
Google searches. So we're seeing that that's what they're focused
on when it comes to pro life pregncy senters is
how to shut them down. And of course they're ignoring
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the violence against threatened against the justices and the violence
threatened against pro life offices building. I would never for
the life of me give out the address of any
public figure just because now i'd give out an office number.
I've done that many time, so you can call and
express your opinion. And by the way, I usually ask
my audience, if you're gonna make that phone call, to
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be polite and respectful. Quick break more with Horace Cooper,
Coachair Black Leadership Network Project twenty one and Jordan's Seculo,
Executive director of the asa l J, the American Center
for Law Injustice. You know Horace Cooper, legal commentator, Coachair
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Black Leadership Network Project twenty one and Jordan Seculo, Executive
director of the ACLJ, the American Center for Law Injustice.
It's so obviously dangerous what they're doing here. Now they're
impacting the families of every one of these justices, putting
in place what is an extremely dangerous situation for an
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entire neighborhood when you give out the address of somebody's kids'
school and where they go to church, and how often
they go to church. Ris is it a stretch to
interpret that to mean, hey, if you want to confront
this person, or maybe worse, this person goes to church
at this time every day, and this person goes to
this specific church. This is pretty obvious what's going on.
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We got to watch in the last couple of years
of the Trump administration how people were confronting public officeholders
when they went to dinner at their spouses places of work.
The BRNC convention was held in a truncated fashion on
the White House grounds, and there were people who were
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attacked afterwards. Here's the contrast that I want to draw.
I'm not as upset that Slow Joe Biden hasn't made
any comments about this, because I don't know how much
Slow Joe Biden actually knows. But Mark Garland knows, and
he understands when these people have put the information online,
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put out these printed releases making what are clearly threats
and comments designed to incite bad behavior. I would like
to hear him denounce this behavior, threatened that they are
going to actually hold people accountable for their bad behavior
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and even ask Congress if necessary to enhance the penalties
for this kind of behavior. In Michigan, there was an
actual trial for the attempted kidnapping of the governor. Two
of the parties were acquitted because it turned out that
the FBI and the dj had actually encouraged and created
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the circumstances that they're now doing. There was no sign
publicly for the rest of us to see that such
a plot was occurring. There's a sign now it's clear,
and at least one person has been caught in the
process admitting the dangerous act that they were about to commit.
Where is the Attorney General, where's the Department of Justice?
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And why haven't they acted in a way to make
sure that the fundamental right that all of us expect,
the court's going to decide on the law and not
based on intimidation and influence. You know, it's amazing. We're
in the middle of these January six hearings that even
George Stephanopolis himself has acknowledged that nobody's really paying attention
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to most Americans are not paying close attention as exact words,
And in the middle of that now, in the summer
of twenty twenty, Jordan and we only have about a
minute left, five hundred and seventy four riots, dozens of
dead Americans, thousands of injured cops, billions in property damage.
The media, they and the Democratic Party they were either
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silent or complicit, like like Kamala Harris, they're not going
to stop. They shouldn't stop. We're not going to stop.
We're you know, etc. C you know, tweeting out help
the Bell Fund of Minneapolis after a precinct the police
precinct has burned to the ground. Um, it's the same
thing here. You know, if I did what if I
said what Chuck Schumer said against the liberal Supreme Court justice,
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what would happen to me I did? After that? There
was assassination tips so you I mean, it would be
a whole legal mess. Okay, not even you and your
father could save me from that one. You know, we
might be able to, but it would not be a shot.
We don't talk like that. I mean, that's the difference.
It's a difference. I would never do it. You're right
to our audiences, we say, hey, if you're gonna call
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this senator's office, you're gonna call this be polite, you know,
even if you strongly disagree with him. Be polite to
their staff person to answer the phone or be polite
on the voicemail. And we're clear about that. We're clear
about that long before any of this happened. But people
are still recovering from those that summer of twenty twenty.
The cities are still recovering from that, the drugs that
are flooding into our border, the crime that we're seeing,
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the homelessness crisis that we're seeing. So yeah, a daytime
TV hearings with Adam Schiff again is not compelling. It's
not getting anybody anywhere, and it's not helping the country
come together. Nobody's watching it either on top of everything else.
Jordan's Secular Acljmerican Center for Law Injustice. Thank you, Horace Cooper,
Thank you for being with us, co chair Black Leadership
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Network Project twenty one. We appreciate you both being on board.
Quick break, right back your calls on the other side.
Straight ahead, you'll hear what everyone really thinks in DC.
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This is the Sean Hannity Show, twenty five to the
top of the hour, eight hundred nine one Seawn our number.
We'll get to your calls here in a second. You know,
I love Joe Biden not only falls on his face
on his bicycle and it wasn't locked in. I mean,
they have those pedals on bicycles where your foot is
kind of locked into the pedal and you have to
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un click it. You didn't have that type of pedal,
and you know when the media mob of course makes
every excuse for him. But it's just all part of
what I've been telling you in the narrative that now
even fake news CNN has picked up on uh. And
then he's asked a question, a simple question by a
reporter and says about inflation. I don't want to talk
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to you about it. I'm on my vacation. You're always
on vacation. Listen to my vacation. Yes, I'm really talked
to you, And like his daughter had to step in
and say, ha ha, I'm only kidding. I'm only kidding um,
which again is like his wife walking him down the
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stairs of Air Force one so he doesn't fall down
on his face. But anyway, and then he said something
and this may seem like I'm let me be very clear,
I'm not a big boat guy. I just I'm not
a big fan of boats. I hate being out on boats.
I'll go out on boats because my friends want to
go out on boats occasionally about fishing. Maybe once a year. Um,
but I'd rent a boat. You know. One of my
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kids has a small, like eighteen nineteen foot boat, just
a little, tiny fishing boat. That's it. No, I want
to go out on it. Never, absolutely not. I'm not interested.
One of my best friends is a great fisherman. It catches,
you know, these forty pounds striped bass almost every day
for crying out a lot before he even goes to work.
He gets up that early in the morning because he
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loves fishing so much. So I'm not that impressed. I
would never want a yacht. I have no idea why
people love those things, but they do. And everybody has
different taste. That's fine, And says Biden goes out and says, well,
if you're going out and you're buying a yacht, it
doesn't help the economy a whole lot. And I'm like, yes,
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it does. You want to know why, because it takes
a lot of people to build those multimillion dollar yachts
that the rich and famous hang out in all the time.
And you know what that means for them. That's food
on their table. That's their mortgage or rent being paid,
that is their vacations being paid for, maybe their kids
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schools being paid for. And so it does a hell
of a lot for the economy, except if you buy
into this mindset that you's supposed to hate people with money.
When I washed dishes when I was a busboy, when
I was a waiter, when I was a bartender, when
I was a house painter, when I painted ships in
a shipyard, when I did general contracting and roofing and
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framing and remodeling and reconstruction, I never got hired one
time by a poor person. I got hired by people
that could afford to pay me, because that's all hard,
backbreaking work, and I was grateful to make the money
so I could pay my rent. Anyway, this is this
out dumb Joe is on the economy. We also can
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move in a direction of that we can provide for
the tax taxes on those I'm in the corporate area
as well as my individuals as a roommate. Is to
some text which isn't quission, and you know he's going
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on by the yeah it's done in health and con
Yeah it does. I mean, if you go to any
place on the water, and I always like being near
the water and you see a shipyard or if you
see a docking area, whether it's big massive yachts or
maybe just average sized boats that people have that they
use on the weekend ago fishing or I don't know,
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water skiing, whatever they like to do on a stupid thing.
It's created by hard working Americans. That is their livelihood. Joe,
how dumb can this guy be? Anyway, let's get to
our busy phones. Scott, West Virginia. What's up? Scott? How
are you glad? You called goohead? How are you Sean?
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I'm good, sir. What's going on? Well? I was wondering
when Republicans and commerce going to ask Democrats, especially the
ones in the January sixth commission, When there's going to
be a j and Agh commission against Chuck Schumer for
inciting the attempted assassination at Justice cabin Hall, in the
legal protest at their homes, they need to ask them
in public. Well, one thing that's going to happen assuming
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Republicans take control of the House. Oh, this is going
to be investigations, and as I understand it, everybody on
that January sixth, Committee has been given a legal preservation notice,
meaning you have to maintain and preserve your emails, your
text messages, etc. And the questions that they didn't ask
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will be brought before the American people. You know, well, great,
for example, you would bring in every witness that was
in the room that said that Donald Trump authorized up
to twenty thousand Guard troops. At that point, the jurisdiction
goes to Muriel Bowser, the Mayor of DC, and Nancy Pelosi,
who is, by her very job definition in charge of
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protecting the Capitol. Then you can bring in the two
sergeant at arms in the House and the and then
you can bring in the Capitol police chief that requested
the National Guard, and you can ask the Mayor of
DC why in writing she rejected the Guard troops that
Donald Trump had offered. And it turns into an entirely
different narrative. If their narrative is that Donald Trump purposely
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wanted to incite a riot that day, and then of
course they might remind people that he said, many of
you will peacefully and patriotically march to the Capitol so
your voices will be heard. So at the end of
the day, This is a one sided, cirkish side show
that nobody's paying attention to, and that had a predetermined
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outcome from day one. Because if they really cared about
protecting the Capitol, and I do care about that, I'll
tell you right now what they ought to do. They
ought to build a perimeter around the Capitol, as they
have built one around the White House. And they ought
to have fencing around the Capitol like they do have
at the White House. But they don't want to do that.
If we want to protect our kids in school, I
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think you've got to have undercover, armed security, retired military police,
and one way in, one way out, a plan that
God forbid. If there's a fire and every kid walks
through a metal detector, and every child in every school
in the country has the same protection as every elected official,
these are not hard problems to solve. I don't think
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Scott common sense to me the same here. I agree.
All right, my friend God Blush in West Virginia. Let's
say hi to Alice in Virginia the Commonwealth. By the way,
you're Governor Glen Young. Gon'll be on Hannity tonight. How
are you. I'm doing good, Sean, how are you. I'm good,
my friend, glad you called. Yeah, I'm wondering with the
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protocols that the president and the vice president are supposed
to do one protecting the people of the United States
and also our economy. I can't see how he's still
in office where and not throwing the both of them
out because they're not doing it by accident. This is
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all a procedure that they put together to totally destroy
the country. And no, judge, you're right about one thing.
Let me put emphasis on this. What you're saying is profound.
This is exactly what Joe Biden and the New Green
Deal Democrats promised to do. This is exactly what was
in the Biden Bernie manifesto. You're right, yeah, And I
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just don't understand, you know, where the true Democrats are
because if there was any really true Democrats out there,
and I'm saying Democrats are old, they would be up
in arms going, wait a second, No, we got to
do something here, and we have to change what's happening.
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And if it takes getting rid of Joe and Klema,
then that's what happens. You know, we can't keep letting
this go on because listen and let me let me
tell you what this comes down to. At the end
of the day, Hill, this is why I've been pushing
for election integrity measures in every state. Comes down to November.
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It comes down to November and what the American people
do now. Democrats are betting that January sixth, abortion guns
and calling Republicans racist and sexist and homophobic and transphobic
and xenophobic is gonna get them over the hurdle and
it won't be a way of election like everybody's predicting.
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I don't think so. With gas prices as high, and
I can't know. There's nobody that I know that has
successfully been able to label or identify one successful program
of Joe Biden. And I think people every time they
fill up their gas tank and they know that, you know,
Joe Biden said it again what this yesterday said it
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we have a chance to make a fundamental turn towards
renewable energy. Well what is the renewable energy? What energy
es he talking about? You know? And they all seem
to say we've done everything we can do with gas prices.
They have not, because they've not returned to the policies,
the successful policies of energy independence. So I hope you'll
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the answers to vote al give you the last word.
Oh no, no, I'm to trust me. I'm voting. I
vote every year and I am a Republican, so sir,
But I just don't I just don't understand the Democrats,
even the ones that seem to be old fashioned and
maybe have some kind of s Hillary is telling them,
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you know, stop pushing trans issues, stop talking about all
these controversial issues and being so far out of step
with where the American people are, which he's really telegraphing them,
and thank you for the call. What he's really saying
to them is that they need to be like the
Clintons were, and that is it fake it. They've you know,
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Democrats up until now, I've always had socialist leadings. They
only they only had a few people that were willing
to express it publicly, Bernie Sanders for example, and then AOC.
Now now I don't know, the veneer is gone. They're
not hiding anymore. They're they're advocating exactly for what they
want and now the country as a choice. It's never
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been more clear in my life. Time Lewis and North Carolina. Hey, Lewis,
how are you so? How are you? I'm good? What's
going on? Only I got one question? I just want
to know what you think about Like, if the Republicans
were to win the House and the Senate come to midterms,
do you actually think they would actually go after the
Clintons for what they did to Trump? And also, I mean,
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we got blatantly, you know, the corrupt bidens. Why wouldn't
they go after them too? You know, are they just
gonna sweep it under the road. Well, according to certain
people that I talked to, that all of this is
on the table. I mean, I think the corruption, abuse
of power scandal that took place in under President Trump's watch,
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I mean, the lie, the conspiracy theory, the hoax that
dragged this country through health for three years. I think
we should identify all those people. I think we need
an investigation into the DOJ and it being politicized. I mean,
why is the DOJ expanding resources to go after parents
that are speaking up at school board meetings? How dumb
is that? You know? How do we have forty plus
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incidences of of you know, pro life centers being attacked?
You know, what about enforcing the law as it relates
to not intimidating judges and Supreme Court justices and the
tacit approval of the administration, or the direct threats of
somebody like Chuck Schumer, you know, for the party that
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says they're against insurrection, sounds like, you know, they're given
an awful lot of aid in comfort to people like
they did in the summer of twenty twenty through with
either their silence or their explicit support or just outright
lying that they're mostly peaceful. Now, five hundred and seventy
four riots that injure thousands of cops and killed dozens
of Americans is not mostly peaceful anyway. I hope that
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answers here. Would you say, sir? I said, I absolutely
agree with you percent. I don't appreciate you being on board.
All right, quick break right back, eight hundred nine four
one Sean our number. If you want to be a
part of the program. We'll get to more your calls
straight ahead. At the top of the hour, Ari Fleischer
will check in. I will talk to him about his
new book about how corrupt the media in this country
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is and much more. As we continue. The final hour
of The Sean Hannity Show is up. The next hang
on for Shaun's conservative solutions. My back arpus. He phones
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big time AJ, Houston, Texas. What's going on? Baby, big time?
Sy make time? This rest going on? How is that rhino?
What is he doing? I mean, there's a lot of rhinos.
Which one are you talking about today? This is the
joke were watching Sean. We got I'm rambling, we got
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borders wide open, we got murders like nobody's business. Everybody
is losing out on their money, bank accounts going down.
I can go on and on and on on and
we they doing but AJ, but the problem is nobody
is watching. Nobody's paying attention to the only reason we
gotta watch Sean because we got to educate the people
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that I'll be honest, there's only so much of it
I can take. And I'm born to tears. They're really
there's nothing new that they're really bringing up here. What's
really sad to me? And especially if you look at
it through the prism of all the times that conservatives
have been told to suck it up support McCain's supportman
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rom named Blah blah blah. You know it's the lesser
of two evils. You can't have these socialists and offers okay, fine,
and then all of a sudden they get a conservative
that governs conservatively. That's tough. Granted Donald Trump fought hard.
He didn't he didn't let us foot off the gas.
Maybe you don't like his style, but his policies work.
They would rather Americans be paying five to six dollars
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a gallon for gasoline and a forty one two year
high of inflation and not a single success that Joe
Biden can site opened borders disaster on the world stage,
because that's what they're helping to ensure. But big time,
I gotta let you go. Man, you're the best. We
always love having you. Thank you so much for being
with us. As always, say hi to my buddy PAGs.
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We love Joe Paggs. Great guy.
Where will you come in to your city gets seeing
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And if you want a little banging again, you ain't
come along, you know. The Wall Street Journal reported this
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morning that forty four percent of economists expect a recession
in the next year. Is that what you expect as well?
I don't think a recession is at all inefftable, and
I realized more than ever that as president I need
your help. I have been reminded again that all the
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hundred nine for one shaw a number you want to
be a part of the program. So we did get
a Supreme Court decision in today, We're expecting I think
seventeen more. Um, they should be coming pretty in the
next couple of weeks for sure. Um. We'll get to
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the case that came in today. This is the Carson v.
Making case. It has to do with the Montana Supreme
Court striking down a state program giving tax credits to
those that donated to organizations providing scholarships to private schools.
The h LJ was involved in it. We'll talk to
Jordans Seculo about it and Horace Cooper in just a minute.
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We now have the final opinions of the court about
to come out. You know, we have the five biggest obviously,
one is Kennedy versus a Bremington School District high school
player lost his job after insisting on reciting postgame prayers
on the fifty yard line despite his employer, the school district,
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instructing him to stop. He's claiming that violated his First
Amendment right to freedom of speech and the free exercise
of religion. That's going to be interesting. Biden versus Texas
now that centers on the administration's migrant protection protocols commonly
known as remain in Mexico policy. That's going to be
a very key decision. Although we know that Biden doesn't
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obey the law anyway, he's aiding and abetting and lawbreaking.
One very big case I'm paying very close attention to
is New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruin
and possibly maybe the biggest Second Amendment case before the
Supreme Court in more than a decade, and the justices
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will decide whether New York's process for obtaining a license
to carry a concealed handgun is overly restrictive. Then we
have West Virginia versus the EPA, and you know, it's
a case that actually consolidated to be decided together four
cases actually, and it is you know, it's it's at
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issue is whether the EPA has the power to issue
sweeping rules that could overhaul industry practices and the country's
electricity grids. By the way, as we are now on
the verge of brown out blackout. Another one that we're
paying attention to is the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health
Organization case, and the anticipation for the ruling in that
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case has led to protests outside the Supreme Court. This
is where Chuck Schumer. You know, we've Chuck Schumer. If
any other American made this threat to specific justices on
the steps of the Supreme Court, I would imagine if
Sean Hannity did it. Sean Hannity would be in deep
legal trouble today. Listen, I want to tell you, of course,
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such I want to tell you Kavanaugh, you have released
the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won't
know what hit you if you go forward with these
awful decisions. You won't know what you You have released
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the whirlwind. You will pay the price. Wow. Now, thank
god we uncovered as an assassination plot against Justice Kavanaugh.
But in light of that, Merrick Garland and Christopher Ray
seem unwilling to pretty much do anything to stop the protesting.
It's against the law talked at length about at US
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eighteen Code section fifteen oh seven. You can't intimidate or
harass judges in front of their homes like this, especially
when they're in the process of making a decision, and
as now the justices will be issuing their final opinions
in this term. It's sad, but you know now we
have security measures because violence cannot be ruled out. They're
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sending around flyers all over Washington, DC, calling to action
a night of rage and the night of the Supreme
Court overturns Roe v. Wade hits the streets. You know, basically,
they're saying it's time to riot continues our oppressors. If
abortions aren't safe, you are not either. Remember that Jane's
Revenge written in one particular case. So what's going to
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happen here? I don't know. I really don't anyway. Horace Cooper,
legal commentator, co chair of the Black Leadership Network Project
twenty one, author of the bestseller How Trump Is Making
Black America Great Again. Jordan Seculo, executive director for the ACLJ,
the American Center for Law and Justice, which, by the way,
in the case of car s B making, they participated
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in the filing in this case. And I guess you're
pretty happy today. But anyway, the Montana Supreme Court had
struck down a state program giving tax credits to those
that donated to organizations providing scholarships to private schools because
the program conflicted with the states constitutional provision prohibiting state
aid to sectarian private schools. How do you feel about
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the decision, Jordan's secular. It's really exciting, sean for school choice.
That's what this ultimately is about, because it gives states
a kind of pathway to set up these programs and
to understand they're not going to create a constitutional crisis
by letting parents choose which schools they want to send
their children if they set up a school choice program
and that includes religious schools as well. And what the
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court here has done for the second time in two years,
first out of Montana, now out of Maine, has said
that if you set up this program and you try
to exclude religious schools, that is anti religion, that is
anti the First Amendment. That's a violation of the free
exercise of religion. And Sean, that is very important because
for people who do watch the court carefully in religious
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liberty cases in school choice cases, they know that the
free exercise of religion has been kind of beat up
and ignored by the Supreme Court for a few decades
since the nineteen sixties and seventies. The fact that it's
back with some teeth and it means something is also
very important. So two big wins there, one for school choice,
one for religious liberty. Let's get your take, hors Cooper, Well,
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I absolutely agree with that. I think it has been
shameful that we have the state policies that say to people,
your citizen, you contribute your tax dollars, but if you
hold certain views that animate from faith, you aren't allowed
to participate, you aren't allowed to benefit. That's pir say discrimination. Now,
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if you don't want to give tax dollars to any
schools or to any private schools, that is different. But
what they've done here is they attempted to penalize people
solely on the basis of their faith. And I am
so thrilled that the Supreme Court came squarely down on
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the position that that is an animus. That is unconstitutional,
It's not allowed. Let me ask you both both about
First of all, we were able to thwart and stop
a plot to assassinate a Supreme Court justice. We see
the tacit approval of the Biden White House in terms
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of toxing of Supreme Court justices. And literally now they've
gone as far as to give out Amy Coney Barrett's
the name of her children's school, the name of the
church that she attends, how often she attends church. That
seems beyond the pale to me. It's also my view,
my interpretation of eighteen USC. Fifteen oh seven, this is
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intimidation and harassment of a justice. There have been forty
nine incidents of violence, according to the Susan B. Anthony
Pro Life America group, vandalism harassment by pro abortion activists.
Since May second and the leak of the draft Supreme
Court opinion that would potentially overturn Row, there's been fire
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bombings that have taken place, I think some twenty of
them around the country of Molotov cocktails. And yet I
don't see Merrick Garland or direct Array all upset about
what's happening to our Supreme Court justices. Jordan, what do
you think, Well, Sean, they don't have to. As you said,
you cited the US Code. If you're outside of judge's
house protesting because of a specific case, it can't be
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any clear that's not protected speech in the United States.
You're trying to influence an official. That's so it's not
a free speech issue at all. They've got the legal
authorities shut it down. But as you said, they're ignoring that,
and they're trying to confuse I think the public with thinking, oh, well,
people have free receipts, they can protest. Maybe they don't
like that. That's not the case. There's a specific law
in the books. There's absolutely constitutional and says you can't
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do this to influence a decision. And we know these
protests are specific to the Dob's case and on roversus
way in abortion. The second, when you talk about the violence,
you know what the sick thing is about these attacks
on pro life pregnancy centers or crisis pregnancy centers. The
group that is claiming responsibility for these attacks Jame's Revenge,
the same group saying they're going to riot in Washington.
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D C. Sean has said that this is just the beginning,
that the attacks will only increase. Well, if you've already
firebombed in the office, you know, at night, knowing that
people probably aren't there, what's the next level of attack.
The next level of attack is people possibly getting injured.
So they're threatening actual violence against people, not just property.
That's what I think. The second is just a few
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days ago, but just released today. Democrat members of the
House and sent it sent a letter to the Google
CEO saying that they want that the pro life pregnancies
sitners are engaged in misinformation and they don't want them
into Google searches, and they want to be flagged in
Google searches. So we're seeing that that's what they're focused
on when it comes to pro life pregncy senters is
how to shut them down. And of course they're ignoring
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the violence against threatened against the justices and the violence
threatened against pro life offices building. I would never for
the life of me give out the address of any
public figure just because now i'd give out an office number.
I've done that many time, so you can call and
express your opinion. And by the way, I usually ask
my audience, if you're gonna make that phone call, to
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be polite and respectful. Quick break more with Horace Cooper,
Coachair Black Leadership Network Project twenty one and Jordan's Seculo,
Executive director of the asa l J, the American Center
for Law Injustice. You know Horace Cooper, legal commentator, Coachair
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Black Leadership Network Project twenty one and Jordan Seculo, Executive
director of the ACLJ, the American Center for Law Injustice.
It's so obviously dangerous what they're doing here. Now they're
impacting the families of every one of these justices, putting
in place what is an extremely dangerous situation for an
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entire neighborhood when you give out the address of somebody's kids'
school and where they go to church, and how often
they go to church. Ris is it a stretch to
interpret that to mean, hey, if you want to confront
this person, or maybe worse, this person goes to church
at this time every day, and this person goes to
this specific church. This is pretty obvious what's going on.
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We got to watch in the last couple of years
of the Trump administration how people were confronting public officeholders
when they went to dinner at their spouses places of work.
The BRNC convention was held in a truncated fashion on
the White House grounds, and there were people who were
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attacked afterwards. Here's the contrast that I want to draw.
I'm not as upset that Slow Joe Biden hasn't made
any comments about this, because I don't know how much
Slow Joe Biden actually knows. But Mark Garland knows, and
he understands when these people have put the information online,
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put out these printed releases making what are clearly threats
and comments designed to incite bad behavior. I would like
to hear him denounce this behavior, threatened that they are
going to actually hold people accountable for their bad behavior
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and even ask Congress if necessary to enhance the penalties
for this kind of behavior. In Michigan, there was an
actual trial for the attempted kidnapping of the governor. Two
of the parties were acquitted because it turned out that
the FBI and the dj had actually encouraged and created
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the circumstances that they're now doing. There was no sign
publicly for the rest of us to see that such
a plot was occurring. There's a sign now it's clear,
and at least one person has been caught in the
process admitting the dangerous act that they were about to commit.
Where is the Attorney General, where's the Department of Justice?
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And why haven't they acted in a way to make
sure that the fundamental right that all of us expect,
the court's going to decide on the law and not
based on intimidation and influence. You know, it's amazing. We're
in the middle of these January six hearings that even
George Stephanopolis himself has acknowledged that nobody's really paying attention
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to most Americans are not paying close attention as exact words,
And in the middle of that now, in the summer
of twenty twenty, Jordan and we only have about a
minute left, five hundred and seventy four riots, dozens of
dead Americans, thousands of injured cops, billions in property damage.
The media, they and the Democratic Party they were either
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silent or complicit, like like Kamala Harris, they're not going
to stop. They shouldn't stop. We're not going to stop.
We're you know, etc. C you know, tweeting out help
the Bell Fund of Minneapolis after a precinct the police
precinct has burned to the ground. Um, it's the same
thing here. You know, if I did what if I
said what Chuck Schumer said against the liberal Supreme Court justice,
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what would happen to me I did? After that? There
was assassination tips so you I mean, it would be
a whole legal mess. Okay, not even you and your
father could save me from that one. You know, we
might be able to, but it would not be a shot.
We don't talk like that. I mean, that's the difference.
It's a difference. I would never do it. You're right
to our audiences, we say, hey, if you're gonna call
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this senator's office, you're gonna call this be polite, you know,
even if you strongly disagree with him. Be polite to
their staff person to answer the phone or be polite
on the voicemail. And we're clear about that. We're clear
about that long before any of this happened. But people
are still recovering from those that summer of twenty twenty.
The cities are still recovering from that, the drugs that
are flooding into our border, the crime that we're seeing,
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the homelessness crisis that we're seeing. So yeah, a daytime
TV hearings with Adam Schiff again is not compelling. It's
not getting anybody anywhere, and it's not helping the country
come together. Nobody's watching it either on top of everything else.
Jordan's Secular Acljmerican Center for Law Injustice. Thank you, Horace Cooper,
Thank you for being with us, co chair Black Leadership
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Network Project twenty one. We appreciate you both being on board.
Quick break, right back your calls on the other side.
Straight ahead, you'll hear what everyone really thinks in DC.
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This is the Sean Hannity Show, twenty five to the
top of the hour, eight hundred nine one Seawn our number.
We'll get to your calls here in a second. You know,
I love Joe Biden not only falls on his face
on his bicycle and it wasn't locked in. I mean,
they have those pedals on bicycles where your foot is
kind of locked into the pedal and you have to
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un click it. You didn't have that type of pedal,
and you know when the media mob of course makes
every excuse for him. But it's just all part of
what I've been telling you in the narrative that now
even fake news CNN has picked up on uh. And
then he's asked a question, a simple question by a
reporter and says about inflation. I don't want to talk
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to you about it. I'm on my vacation. You're always
on vacation. Listen to my vacation. Yes, I'm really talked
to you, And like his daughter had to step in
and say, ha ha, I'm only kidding. I'm only kidding um,
which again is like his wife walking him down the
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stairs of Air Force one so he doesn't fall down
on his face. But anyway, and then he said something
and this may seem like I'm let me be very clear,
I'm not a big boat guy. I just I'm not
a big fan of boats. I hate being out on boats.
I'll go out on boats because my friends want to
go out on boats occasionally about fishing. Maybe once a year. Um,
but I'd rent a boat. You know. One of my
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kids has a small, like eighteen nineteen foot boat, just
a little, tiny fishing boat. That's it. No, I want
to go out on it. Never, absolutely not. I'm not interested.
One of my best friends is a great fisherman. It catches,
you know, these forty pounds striped bass almost every day
for crying out a lot before he even goes to work.
He gets up that early in the morning because he
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loves fishing so much. So I'm not that impressed. I
would never want a yacht. I have no idea why
people love those things, but they do. And everybody has
different taste. That's fine, And says Biden goes out and says, well,
if you're going out and you're buying a yacht, it
doesn't help the economy a whole lot. And I'm like, yes,
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it does. You want to know why, because it takes
a lot of people to build those multimillion dollar yachts
that the rich and famous hang out in all the time.
And you know what that means for them. That's food
on their table. That's their mortgage or rent being paid,
that is their vacations being paid for, maybe their kids
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schools being paid for. And so it does a hell
of a lot for the economy, except if you buy
into this mindset that you's supposed to hate people with money.
When I washed dishes when I was a busboy, when
I was a waiter, when I was a bartender, when
I was a house painter, when I painted ships in
a shipyard, when I did general contracting and roofing and
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framing and remodeling and reconstruction, I never got hired one
time by a poor person. I got hired by people
that could afford to pay me, because that's all hard,
backbreaking work, and I was grateful to make the money
so I could pay my rent. Anyway, this is this
out dumb Joe is on the economy. We also can
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move in a direction of that we can provide for
the tax taxes on those I'm in the corporate area
as well as my individuals as a roommate. Is to
some text which isn't quission, and you know he's going
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on by the yeah it's done in health and con
Yeah it does. I mean, if you go to any
place on the water, and I always like being near
the water and you see a shipyard or if you
see a docking area, whether it's big massive yachts or
maybe just average sized boats that people have that they
use on the weekend ago fishing or I don't know,
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water skiing, whatever they like to do on a stupid thing.
It's created by hard working Americans. That is their livelihood. Joe,
how dumb can this guy be? Anyway, let's get to
our busy phones. Scott, West Virginia. What's up? Scott? How
are you glad? You called goohead? How are you Sean?
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I'm good, sir. What's going on? Well? I was wondering
when Republicans and commerce going to ask Democrats, especially the
ones in the January sixth commission, When there's going to
be a j and Agh commission against Chuck Schumer for
inciting the attempted assassination at Justice cabin Hall, in the
legal protest at their homes, they need to ask them
in public. Well, one thing that's going to happen assuming
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Republicans take control of the House. Oh, this is going
to be investigations, and as I understand it, everybody on
that January sixth, Committee has been given a legal preservation notice,
meaning you have to maintain and preserve your emails, your
text messages, etc. And the questions that they didn't ask
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will be brought before the American people. You know, well, great,
for example, you would bring in every witness that was
in the room that said that Donald Trump authorized up
to twenty thousand Guard troops. At that point, the jurisdiction
goes to Muriel Bowser, the Mayor of DC, and Nancy Pelosi,
who is, by her very job definition in charge of
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protecting the Capitol. Then you can bring in the two
sergeant at arms in the House and the and then
you can bring in the Capitol police chief that requested
the National Guard, and you can ask the Mayor of
DC why in writing she rejected the Guard troops that
Donald Trump had offered. And it turns into an entirely
different narrative. If their narrative is that Donald Trump purposely
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wanted to incite a riot that day, and then of
course they might remind people that he said, many of
you will peacefully and patriotically march to the Capitol so
your voices will be heard. So at the end of
the day, This is a one sided, cirkish side show
that nobody's paying attention to, and that had a predetermined
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outcome from day one. Because if they really cared about
protecting the Capitol, and I do care about that, I'll
tell you right now what they ought to do. They
ought to build a perimeter around the Capitol, as they
have built one around the White House. And they ought
to have fencing around the Capitol like they do have
at the White House. But they don't want to do that.
If we want to protect our kids in school, I
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think you've got to have undercover, armed security, retired military police,
and one way in, one way out, a plan that
God forbid. If there's a fire and every kid walks
through a metal detector, and every child in every school
in the country has the same protection as every elected official,
these are not hard problems to solve. I don't think
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Scott common sense to me the same here. I agree.
All right, my friend God Blush in West Virginia. Let's
say hi to Alice in Virginia the Commonwealth. By the way,
you're Governor Glen Young. Gon'll be on Hannity tonight. How
are you. I'm doing good, Sean, how are you. I'm good,
my friend, glad you called. Yeah, I'm wondering with the
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protocols that the president and the vice president are supposed
to do one protecting the people of the United States
and also our economy. I can't see how he's still
in office where and not throwing the both of them
out because they're not doing it by accident. This is
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all a procedure that they put together to totally destroy
the country. And no, judge, you're right about one thing.
Let me put emphasis on this. What you're saying is profound.
This is exactly what Joe Biden and the New Green
Deal Democrats promised to do. This is exactly what was
in the Biden Bernie manifesto. You're right, yeah, And I
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just don't understand, you know, where the true Democrats are
because if there was any really true Democrats out there,
and I'm saying Democrats are old, they would be up
in arms going, wait a second, No, we got to
do something here, and we have to change what's happening.
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And if it takes getting rid of Joe and Klema,
then that's what happens. You know, we can't keep letting
this go on because listen and let me let me
tell you what this comes down to. At the end
of the day, Hill, this is why I've been pushing
for election integrity measures in every state. Comes down to November.
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It comes down to November and what the American people
do now. Democrats are betting that January sixth, abortion guns
and calling Republicans racist and sexist and homophobic and transphobic
and xenophobic is gonna get them over the hurdle and
it won't be a way of election like everybody's predicting.
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I don't think so. With gas prices as high, and
I can't know. There's nobody that I know that has
successfully been able to label or identify one successful program
of Joe Biden. And I think people every time they
fill up their gas tank and they know that, you know,
Joe Biden said it again what this yesterday said it
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we have a chance to make a fundamental turn towards
renewable energy. Well what is the renewable energy? What energy
es he talking about? You know? And they all seem
to say we've done everything we can do with gas prices.
They have not, because they've not returned to the policies,
the successful policies of energy independence. So I hope you'll
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the answers to vote al give you the last word.
Oh no, no, I'm to trust me. I'm voting. I
vote every year and I am a Republican, so sir,
But I just don't I just don't understand the Democrats,
even the ones that seem to be old fashioned and
maybe have some kind of s Hillary is telling them,
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you know, stop pushing trans issues, stop talking about all
these controversial issues and being so far out of step
with where the American people are, which he's really telegraphing them,
and thank you for the call. What he's really saying
to them is that they need to be like the
Clintons were, and that is it fake it. They've you know,
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Democrats up until now, I've always had socialist leadings. They
only they only had a few people that were willing
to express it publicly, Bernie Sanders for example, and then AOC.
Now now I don't know, the veneer is gone. They're
not hiding anymore. They're they're advocating exactly for what they
want and now the country as a choice. It's never
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been more clear in my life. Time Lewis and North Carolina. Hey, Lewis,
how are you so? How are you? I'm good? What's
going on? Only I got one question? I just want
to know what you think about Like, if the Republicans
were to win the House and the Senate come to midterms,
do you actually think they would actually go after the
Clintons for what they did to Trump? And also, I mean,
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we got blatantly, you know, the corrupt bidens. Why wouldn't
they go after them too? You know, are they just
gonna sweep it under the road. Well, according to certain
people that I talked to, that all of this is
on the table. I mean, I think the corruption, abuse
of power scandal that took place in under President Trump's watch,
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I mean, the lie, the conspiracy theory, the hoax that
dragged this country through health for three years. I think
we should identify all those people. I think we need
an investigation into the DOJ and it being politicized. I mean,
why is the DOJ expanding resources to go after parents
that are speaking up at school board meetings? How dumb
is that? You know? How do we have forty plus
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incidences of of you know, pro life centers being attacked?
You know, what about enforcing the law as it relates
to not intimidating judges and Supreme Court justices and the
tacit approval of the administration, or the direct threats of
somebody like Chuck Schumer, you know, for the party that
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says they're against insurrection, sounds like, you know, they're given
an awful lot of aid in comfort to people like
they did in the summer of twenty twenty through with
either their silence or their explicit support or just outright
lying that they're mostly peaceful. Now, five hundred and seventy
four riots that injure thousands of cops and killed dozens
of Americans is not mostly peaceful anyway. I hope that
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answers here. Would you say, sir? I said, I absolutely
agree with you percent. I don't appreciate you being on board.
All right, quick break right back, eight hundred nine four
one Sean our number. If you want to be a
part of the program. We'll get to more your calls
straight ahead. At the top of the hour, Ari Fleischer
will check in. I will talk to him about his
new book about how corrupt the media in this country
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is and much more. As we continue. The final hour
of The Sean Hannity Show is up. The next hang
on for Shaun's conservative solutions. My back arpus. He phones
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big time AJ, Houston, Texas. What's going on? Baby, big time?
Sy make time? This rest going on? How is that rhino?
What is he doing? I mean, there's a lot of rhinos.
Which one are you talking about today? This is the
joke were watching Sean. We got I'm rambling, we got
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borders wide open, we got murders like nobody's business. Everybody
is losing out on their money, bank accounts going down.
I can go on and on and on on and
we they doing but AJ, but the problem is nobody
is watching. Nobody's paying attention to the only reason we
gotta watch Sean because we got to educate the people
(32:03):
that I'll be honest, there's only so much of it
I can take. And I'm born to tears. They're really
there's nothing new that they're really bringing up here. What's
really sad to me? And especially if you look at
it through the prism of all the times that conservatives
have been told to suck it up support McCain's supportman
(32:23):
rom named Blah blah blah. You know it's the lesser
of two evils. You can't have these socialists and offers okay, fine,
and then all of a sudden they get a conservative
that governs conservatively. That's tough. Granted Donald Trump fought hard.
He didn't he didn't let us foot off the gas.
Maybe you don't like his style, but his policies work.
They would rather Americans be paying five to six dollars
(32:47):
a gallon for gasoline and a forty one two year
high of inflation and not a single success that Joe
Biden can site opened borders disaster on the world stage,
because that's what they're helping to ensure. But big time,
I gotta let you go. Man, you're the best. We
always love having you. Thank you so much for being
with us. As always, say hi to my buddy PAGs.
(33:08):
We love Joe Paggs. Great guy.
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