January 23, 2023 • 31 mins
Mike Pompeo, author of the new book, out tomorrow, NEVER GIVE AN INCH, Fighting for the America I Love, served as the seventieth secretary of state of the United States of America and as the director of the Central Intelligence Agency during the Trump Administration; today he joins to discuss his new role as an author.
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on number. We'll get to your calls at the bottom
of a half hour eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn,
if you want to be a part of the program.
So I really can tell you that, thanks to all
of you listening to this radio show and seven hundred
stations strong now watching the TV show, that I found
my passion the first day I ever got behind a
radio microphone. That first day, it was it always done.
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My life was over. If I had to pick a
life that somebody that I know that I am just
I admire so much and would want to live myself,
it would be Mike Pompale's life. We first met when
he was a congressman. We met I've never had been
to Langley before when he was the CIA director, and
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he was very gracious to let me go over and
see Langley, which was pretty cool, you know, just everything
you see in a Jason Bourne movie basically. And then
he became Secretary of State at a very critical point
in American history, you know, dealing with the likes of
you know, Little rocket Man and Vladimir Putin and President
She and all his life experiences are paths across many
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many times. I was in Helsinki, I was in Vietnam,
I was in Singapore. And I've known him since. He's
a congressman. He's also a dear friend. He may be
running for president. We'll ask him in a second. But
he wrote a book and I really have started it.
I really can't put it down. It's never given inch
fighting for the America that I love. And it talks
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a lot about the experiences that he's had both the
CIA director and Secretary of State, and his life. Isn't
incredible Mike Pompeo, dear friend, welcome back to the program.
How are you, sir Sean. I'm doing great. Thank you,
thanks for those kind words, and thanks for having me
on to talk about my book. What an incredible life
you have led. First of all, let me start with
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the CIA. I'm if I could be a spy. I
would love to be a spy. I'm fascinating by that
entire world. And the thing is, you really can't tell
me much of what you know about what's really going
on in the world, can you. A lot of that
is quiet for a reason, I will say to say,
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it doesn't get it right. Every day but the men
and women who are out there, you met them when
you went out to Langley. These are patriots try and
every day to just be free, to put a dagger
in their teeth and get out and protect America. And
so it was a wonderful opportunity to lead them, to
take risks on the side of them, and to deliver
really good intelligence for the President of United States of America.
At the time, President Trump was an America first president.
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President Trump had made a commitment to get out of
long protracted conflicts abroad, both by the way, everything that
they had promised he fulfilled. He defeated the ISIS Caliphate,
which I don't think he got enough credited for, and
he did it systematically. You got you were there, You've
met Kim Jong un, You've met Ladimir, You've met President she.
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You discuss all of this in the book. Let's talk
a little bit about the people, the evil actors on
the world stage. All three the ones that I mentioned,
I would view as hostile regimes, hostile actors. Um you
didn't really have the best words to say for any
of them. Let's start with Vladimir Putin. You said he
can be funny, he's funny, but he's a train KGB agent.
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You know, it's exactly what he's doing. I've been criticized
for saying he's smart, but you know, Sean, we have
to respect our adversaries. We have to love them, don't
like what they're doing. But you can't call isis the
JV because you're gonna get people's heads cut off. You see. Yeah,
you said he he said he's funny, but you also
said he's evil, and you're right, he's evil. Yeah, that's right.
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He's evil and his intention to conquer greater Europe has
never wavered. What wavered was his perception of American leadership.
And for four years we convinced Ladimir Putin that it
wasn't worth a candle. Right, he takes Cremia twenty fourteen,
twenty fifteen, it doesn't move on Europe for four years,
and then he goes back at it with President Putin
didn't change American leadership change and then never give an inch.
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I write about the tools we used of American power.
We didn't, Sean, we didn't send the eighty second airport,
we didn't set a marine division. We used American power
to protect and secure America. One of the things that
I found interesting is before you met him, it was
clear he studied you, and that, you know, on the
reverse side of that, you studied him. When when you're
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preparing for a summit like that or a meeting like
that with you know, one of our biggest geopolitical foes,
what does that entail? Oh goodness, I did. I spent
it would have been a couple of months preparing for
my first meeting with him, trying to learn everything we
know who's met with him before. In the book, I
talked about the fact never given to take the fact
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that Dennis Rodman was the American record holder for spending
time with Chairman Kim. He coached the North Korean basketball team,
and so we read what he had told us about
his visits. We read the histories about Chairman Kim's childhood,
he studied in Switzerland, and then all that the Intelligence
Committee had been able to collect so that we had
as good an understanding of how he thought about his
country so that we could deliver for hours. So when
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you meet with Plutin, you know, he's calculating. You know,
at times it was a tense discussion. At other times
it was more lighthearted. I know you can't get into
specifics for national security concerns, but what can you tell us, No,
Plutin was a special difficult case for us because the
Trump administration lived under the Russia hooks for the first
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two and a half years of our time, right where
New York Times Washington posts were out, and Adam Scheffut
telling this false narrative about Trump and everyone in his
orbit being a Russian asset. So the meetings with him
were complicated by that fact. He was serious in his result,
but he that we were different cats, that we were
different from the president that he had dealt with previously,
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and so I think his perception of risk was just
really really different. He was talking to us. Remember, we
have lots of places we come into contact with Russians.
We came into contact with them in Syria, and when
they crossed our red line and sent troops across the
Euphrates River, we took out three hundred five years soldiers.
I think those are the kinds of things to send
a message to. Putin had said, this is not my moment,
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and that's how you protect America and make it more
prosperous without big adventurous American diplomacy. You know, I'm often
called a warmonger by folks on the left. The trip
is we were just the opposite of that. We built
at a peace regime in the Middle East, in Asia
and in Europe that served us well and for four
years we had no new war. Shan, we took down
to Califoratia. It was a pretty successful run. Let me
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go into the issues involving him. Did you were you
surprised by Ukraine and his invasion? And here's my analysis,
and it's based in part on what sources have told me,
my own observations, and my own you know, reading of
press reports. I got the sense that Donald Trump spoke
so freely to Putin that you know, he would say things,
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if you do A, I will do B and B
would be so it would be such a colossal, you know,
promise that I think Putin was probably maybe taken aback.
Maybe there was only one percent of him that thought
this guy might be crazy enough to do what he's
saying it was and there was a certain fear factor
with Trump. Maybe if it was only one percent, maybe
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this guy is crazy enough to do something like that.
Was that real? Shan? You have it largely right. This
is a classic Reagan deterrence. Bottle right, there's a peace
through strength, and we delivered that. And your point is
well taken. The messages that we sent to the Russians
weren't headlines in the newspaper. They were private conversations about
the things we really cared about, the things that made
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it different. Things we were prepared to defend. There are
other things, you know, you all want to go do that, okay,
But on the things that mattered to Americans safe, we
were pretty clear and we told them what our expectation
was and what the cost of that would be if
he went down that path. And I think that's why
we were able to keep him in the box for
our four years, including Ukraine. Everybody knew at that time
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he had territorial ambitions for Ukraine. Those conversations I assume
came up in those meetings. Absolutely, No, you're Sean, You've
got it exactly right. Putin hasn't changed your point about
his territorial ambitions. That is a throughout proposition for his
whole life. What changed was his perception of risk. And
when Biden says a mayor incursion is okay, or walks
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US out of Afghanistan in the most humiliating way you
can imagine, with the lost thirteen American life. Putin says,
this is my time, and you got to worry about
the impact. How is the how is President she reading?
What's going on with Ukraine. I'll get to that in
a minute. Let me talk a little bit. I was there.
I actually saw you in Singapore. I'm sure you don't remember,
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during the summit in twenty eighteen, and you were I
was actually laughing. You may actually met little rocket man
Kim Jong un. You referred to him as a small, sweating,
evil dictator from North Korea, but you also studied him
in terms of, you know, crediting him that he was smart, savvy, ruthless.
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And I remember at the time people were upset that
Donald Trump was even meeting with him. And I said, folks,
what did Donald Trump give Kim Jong um? Nothing except
his time, But we got the remains of Americans from
the Korean War back. He stopped firing his missiles every
other day, and a relationship developed, and the world, in
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that sense was a little safer because of a rapport
that was built. To me, it was a brilliant strategy
absolutely brilliant and well executed too, and never given into
the book. I talk about the three hostages we got
back as well shot too. Yeah. Yeah. In front of
the book, we actually have a statement from one of
the hostages, in his own words, in thought he was
being released. He shows up at the tarmac and there
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is this of a white over blue American aircraft with
an American seal audit. This is American part. We didn't sean,
we didn't apologize, we didn't pay a penny, and with
those three Americans out, no policy there worked delivered for
the American people, and it reduced an awful out of
risk here at home. And Trump joked that Elton John's
song rocket Man was a great song, and he really
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meant that his compliment that was hilarious. Yeah, Jairmy Kim
saw right through that. He had his own response. What
I would vaguely remember him saying something along the lines
of your rocketman, okay, little rocket man, not okay, which
is pretty good. So I would argue and correct me
if you think I'm wrong that America's number one geopolitical
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foe today is China. That's what concerns me so much
about the Bidens and the family business and the one
point five billion dollar deal with the Bank of China,
a deal on sending natural gas to China, a five
million dollars no interest forgivable loan. I'm sure you would
love those terms yourself, and everybody listening would. Yeah, you
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can't get that deal. Um so, but you really you
referred to what did you say about President Sheet That
he was dour um just kind of dead eyed to you,
I think is the term you used. Yeah, he was
of all the senior leaders I met with, he was
the most difficult to penetrate. He had this he had
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a blank space. He was difficult and nasty. In every conversation,
there were no there were no like moments in my
conversations with him. It was it was all serious, and
he always had this chip on his shoulder. I think
he understood deeply that our model was a superior model.
But he was determined to try and make America be
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a nation in decline. And you could read that and
feel that in every it oozed from him every time
I met with him. Well, apparently he made a call
to Trump demanding you give hired over comments you made
about COVID. Yeah, that's that's exactly right. My comments were
actually about the Chinese comment is party more broadly, but
on a phone call in the time that COVID was
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wearing its ugly head here in America, he just railed
on me, and he would have probably known I was
on the call. The call was between the two leaders,
but he would have known I was on the calling
when when the call ended, President Trump called me back
and that that haff and guy hate you, and which
I by the way, that's a badge of honor. I
like that. Maybe so, But in any event, it was
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as closure as I think as I've ever come as
I heted to get a fired shot. Uh you got
a little bit of refend. You posted a picture quote
what you describe as a completely innocent photo of his
dog cuddling a well chewed Winnie the Pooh toy. Uh yeah, yeah,
having some fun, just having some fun. He doesn't like
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the fact he's been compared to that he looks like
Whinney the Pooh. And so we have two to build retrievers,
and one of them at a wanted the poop puppy,
And I just thought, boy, that that's funny to watch
my dog play so and put it up on Twitter.
It was it was a little bit fun. I had
my own discussions with Dennis Rodman and he gave me
some insights into a little rocket Man too. Let me
talk about just real quickly, the state of the world
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as you see it today. I think I speak for
a lot of conservatives, and I'm angry that our Western
European and NATO allies don't do most of the contributing
as it relates to Ukraine. That's in their backyard, on
our backyard, and no. Conservatives are angry because it doesn't
seem like we're fighting that war to win it and
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we're paying the bulk of money. And why doesn't Why
doesn't NATO, Why doesn't Western Europe? Why don't they understand
this is a existential threat to them? So that's a
long running problem. The videotape from I think it was
the spring of eighteen, or maybe it's the fallow two eighteen,
with President Trump and I sitting the NATO leadership demanding
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that they defend themsel right, that they don't depend on
Russian gas. We told them time and time again, this
is going to end badly. We wouldn't we wouldn't have
done exactly how But we've got forty years we say Europe,
really France in Germany, the two big economies there under
investing in their own defense. And you can see this
coming back to kick them in the head. Now, No,
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that's for the conflict. There's there's only one way we're
going to stop the killing this taking place there. There's
only one way we're going to prevent to continue ratcheting
up with pain on Europe. And that just means we're
gonna have to provide the Ukrainians the tools they need
to actually achieve an outcome that is permanent and lasting.
All Right, I got I want to hold you through
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the break if you can give me just a couple
of minutes here. Um, the book is phenomenal. I really
only have two big questions for you. You know what
one of them is. So we'll get to Mike Pompeio
on the other side. His new book is out, Never
Given Inch, Fighting for the America. I love Hannity dot com,
Amazon dot com, bookstores everywhere, and we'll get to more
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with the former secretary in a minute. I hope we
come back, Mike Pompey. I have a few more questions
for him. On the other side, he's worked in the
CIA's worked in Congress, and he's worked at Secretary of State.
I want to get his thoughts on the issue of
a deep state, Does it exist, how does it? How
do we deal with it in the end, and the
investigations obviously going on by Jim Jordan and Jim call
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me also, is he running for president? A lot of
speculation he might be. We'll talk to him about that
and much more on the other side as we continue.
When news breaks, you get the inside story that no
one else has and the behind the scenes chatter that
the mainstream media doesn't even know about. This is the
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Sean Hannity Show. I twenty five down to the top
of the hour. Thank you for being with us. Eight
hundred nine for one, Shawn our number if you want
to be a part of the program. I said two questions,
but I'm gonna invoke talk show host privilege here and
make it three more questions. A former Secretary of State,
former CIA director, former Congressman Mike Pompeo is with us.
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You've got a great new book out gives you a
lot of insight into the foreign policy adventures. You might
want to call them during the Trump years. Never give
an inch fighting for the America that I love. Uh,
mister secretarist, thanks for staying with us. It's on Amazon
dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores everywhere. UM. First question
is the obvious one. There's been a lot of talk
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speculation you may be running for president. Are you thinking
about it? I am Sean, Susan, my wife Susan and
I are praying, trying to figure out if this is
the right time and we're the right folks to leave
the country forward. We'll get to we'll get to the
long and then if we decide we're going to go
do it, we'll add to Iowa to I'm sure South
Carolina and begin to make the case with two American people.
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I had. It's to me it's a little early to
be talking about twenty twenty four. I feel like we
just got out of an election cycle. But UM, I
asked Nicky Haley on Friday a question, I'll ask you
the same one. So both of you work for President Trump.
President Trump is the only announced candidate, and my question
is where do you see differences between Trump policies America First,
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make America great Again policies versus your policies. What's different. Goodness,
a lot of them would be in the space I
wasn't operating in Sean. It would be in the way
we think about the American economy. We need to the
Trump admistration to spend an awful lot of money. We're
now thirty two thirty one trillion dollars in the hole,
and so there is a lot of work to fix that.
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Our kids and our grandkids. We live in a very
different America if we keep blowing two trillion dollars in
tet on top of the United States every year. And
that's the security issues. There aren't a whole lot of
differences in terms of how I would deliver. But I
do think it's really important that we speak to the
American people about it in a way that we're different
than we sometimes did in the Trump administration. All Right,
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so let me ask you this because I think this
is very very important. Look, primaries are going to be primaries.
Whoever gets in, it's in, and at the end of
the day, it's going to be able to Republican voters.
Here's a question that I think you would probably be
the most able to answer, But I'm not sure if
he can and I believe that we now have an
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FBI sadly that's been politicized. I'll give you two quick
examples and adj that's weaponized. In twenty sixteen, Bruce Orr
warned everybody not to trust the dossier, that it was
a political document and it wasn't verified. That was in
August twenty sixteen. In early October of twenty sixteen, the
FBI sent agents abroad to meet with Christopher Steele, the
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author of the bought and paid for Russian dossier that
has now been debunked, as you know, and they were
never able to give him a million dollar bounty that
they offered him. So by the end of October, they
use the bulk of information in the FISA application to
spy on Carter Page and backdoor their way into the
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Trump campaign and then later presidency. They used that document.
And Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director, even said without
the dossier, they never would have had the FISA warrant approved.
My question is is simple. And then in twenty twenty,
you know, we know big tech companies were meeting weekly
with FBI representatives, headed up by an agent that wrote
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a thesis in twenty sixteen that Donald Trump, how Donald
Trump and Russia colluded for him to win in twenty sixteen,
So obviously there's a bias. They gave Twitter three and
a half million dollars, but they kept warning all these
big tech companies, hey, be on the lookout for disinformation
from foreign adversaries. They might even talk about Hunter Biden
and they mentioned that name. The head of the site
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integrity at Twitter, by by the name of mister Roth,
you know, testified to that case. And what was its
in a Missouri case, Eric Schmidt was running the case
of the time. So my question is is there a
deep state? The answer is yes. It's a little de
for instance, some folks think about it, but this is
you have and I'll speak directly to the State Department.
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I want to talk about the FBI stuff, but the
State Department, your state department that doesn't execute the president's
mission set. They resisted nearly everything that we tried to do,
whether it was the Abraham Chords of the strike on
Constum Solamani, the list goes on. They were they were
their own little blob, their establishment blob, and that is
deeply dangerous to the United States of America. And so
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we've got to I have a theory of the case
on how one can fix this. It would start with
just being able to fire every single one of them
if you needed to. They didn't do their job just
like you would do in your business. Shot get rid
of them. You know your point on the FBI is
a good one, and never give an inch. I write
about January sixth, two thousand and seventeen, I was still
just remember Congress, but I was the nominee to b
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C director And when you read the story of what Clapper,
Komey and Brennan did to Donald Trump at Trump Tower
that day, they basically called him in and briefed him
and said you're a Russian asset, and they knew it
wasn't true. And there I was. I was asked to
be there because I carried a top secret security clearance
because of my time on the House Intelligence Committee. And
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I remember thinking, you just undermined what the American people
just voted for. January sixth, twenty seventeen, was a seminal
day as I watched really Comey and Clapper behave in
ways that were unconscionable, and they knew it couldn't have
been true. But they kept signing them. I mean, you know,
they've since had hearings where everyone that signed onto the
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FIS application that we now know was unverifiable because it
was never true. They all walked. There were no consequences
for anybody. It's unbelievable. The fact that McCabe, who even
the FBI saidline, hasn't been held accountable is deeply Unamerican.
This I hope. I hope Congress will get after this.
I hope Kemmy Jordan and his team will get after
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this the same way he and I chased down Hillary
Clinton on Benghazi. The American people at the very least
need to know what their FBI did under the leadership
of Director. Coming to me, I think we're at the
point where it's sort of like where you have to
have a church committee. You know. One of the things
I've always enjoyed, We've had a good friendship relationship. I
had no hesitancy asking you if I had a doubt
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about a certain person and if you could give me guidance,
and you would always tell me the truth if you
if you could, there occasions you could absolutely no, no,
every time I could absolutely no. We need our government
to be responsive, not political, and we saw Brennan did
the same thing out at CIA. He made a political
he knew the steel Dotier shouldn't have been included in
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that report, and he bypassed and I read about this
and never given and he bypassed the analytical process to
do that. This is inconsistent with how leaders should behave
and all of them are out now making money, talking
on talk shows, continuing to proper their lives to the
American people. Is there any truth to this notion, this idea.
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We've had people in the intelligence community on this show
that make an allegation that there is you know, all
these databases, the accumulation of all data, every text, every email,
every phone call, uh data mining and saving all this stuff.
Is that really happening or is that total? Bs sean?
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The substance of phone calls all that I saw and
I never saw in either role. I never saw anyone
that was collecting what you're describing that right, which is
that they can sort of replay every phone call from two, five,
ten years ago. I never saw any evidence of that. Mike.
It's a fascinating book. What I'm not kidding, What a
great life you've led and I know you're just beginning,
but Mike Pompeo's new book, Never Given Inch, Fighting for
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the America. I love. Uh, we really appreciate your time.
I appreciate your friendship. Thank you, Yes, sir, thank you.
I'm a good day you too. It's on Amazon dot com,
Hannity dot com, bookstores everywhere. Uh. Fascinating and a fascinating
It's what life is. Wouldn't you'd love to be in
the room with Putin and Chee and Kim Jong Lun
and little rocket Man and and and know all of
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our nation's secrets. I'd love to know all that. I'm
going to take a hard pass on that and say
I'm so glad it was Pompeyo and not me. I'm
all set with not being an room that sounds like
it just sounds. I mean, I think it takes a
very special person to walk into that room and to
be calm and to be collected and understand that you
are meeting with the enemy and that there is a
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greater means to an end, and that you get you know,
you get more bees with honey at the end of
the day. Right. Well, I mean, I think what I
said at one point is you know, conveyed to me
through a different sources, is that Donald Trump was no
holds barred. Donald Trump said you do this, I'm going
to do that, and what that was was usually extreme.
Well what the brea can always say, piece through strength. Yeah,
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nobody's afraid of us right now. But that was the
whole point. I think that. And you know, one of
the things that I would say is an asset that
maybe some people look at as as a deficit for
Trump is that this is a certain level of he
might be crazy enough to do that. And I don't
think any the president in the modern era short of Reagan,
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had that strength, had that ability to create that strength. Well,
if you do it, I'm just gonna have to respond
in kind. And I and let's look at me. I
mean what I say, I will do it. Well. I
think also in the case of some of two of
the people that were talking about right now, they had
private business, they had private lives, they had lives before
they were politicians. You know, you have somebody like Joe
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Biden who has literally been a politician for forty eight
years of his life and has accomplished absolutely nothing. And
then you look at Trump, whether you like him or not,
who was a very accomplished businessman and knew how to negotiate.
And I'm sure at times he was ruthless and other
times he was a mitigator, and he played whatever role
needed to be played to get the deal done. Hence
the art of the deal. Yeah, well, sudden, all right,
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let's get to our busy phones. Eight hundred nine one,
Shawn our number. Andrew's in the Free State of Florida.
A lot of Florida calls today. What's up, Bandrew? How
are you okay? Great? Hope you are. Thank you for
your service. I know it's a fashion for you, so
I know you work your team off, but you do
a fantastic job. Thank you. Add it's your passion. But
last week you were talking about the world of economic forms.
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You know, it's such a big group of you know, gazillionaires.
And the only thing that I feel like I can
do I look at the companies that involved with that,
I absolutely boycott them. I don't buy, they don't get
a cent from me. And that's the only thing that
I feel like I can do to dry to alcohol
and in them a little bit, you know, to knock
them down a notch and if everybody did it, maybe
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they'd get started getting the message. But boycott, boycott, boycott
on people that are funding all of these crazy policies.
So that was one comment that I wanted to make.
And the other is these people like Mike Pompey was
talking about Adam Schiff, these outright there's falsehoods. There's got
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to be some consequence for that. You know, you get
dejected from the Senate. You're not just censored, but something's
got to happen. And it just blows my mind that
that people can say complete falsehoods and it just gets
sucked under the rug and nobody does it, you know,
when you can vote. But well, we're getting some work
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done now. I kept telling everybody, Well, one, I did
not have the exuberance attack that many had about the
mid term elections. I've been very dubious about how elections
are being run by Democrats, and I'm now saying it loudly,
and I want everyone to hear me. Unless Republicans match
what the Democrats are doing in terms of elections, both
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in raising money for the negative ads and number two,
investing in the ballot harvesting operations that forty nine states
allowed by law and following the law. Unless we do
and match and do it better than the Democrats, you
can say goodbye to winning a lot of races. We
thought we should win, but secondly I didn't. And you
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got to give up your reluctance to voting earlier by mail. Yeah,
but yeah, we can't. We know what they do and
we got to fight. We got sight harder than make you.
It's forth to fight. I just want to say thanks
for your service. Oh, thank you, sir. You make this happen,
not me. I appreciate it. It's my honor. Oh no,
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you know the liberal How did you get on TV?
How did you get through? Who put you through? Who?
You know? That was done just to mess with me?
How are you? Sir? I called Sean? I dial that number.
Sometimes I get lucky. I'm a very lucky man. You're lucky,
all right, lucky? Literally? I bet you live in a
rent control department, don't you. I live in the senior
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citizens apartment in Brooklyn named Bishop Boardman. Yeah, the Bishop bill.
Thirty three of them in Brooklyn durned the eighties, and
I'm glad to be here. It's like winning the lottery. Honestly, Well,
let me ask you, what do you pay for your
rent every month? If I may ask, you don't have
to answer if you don't want. My rent is four
hundred dollars a month. I live in Park Slope, Brooklyn. Yes,
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a hundred dollars. You know what the market rate is
for your apartment? How many bedrooms? Mister, dollars? Is a
top rent in this building? Okay, but but that's not
my point. How many bedrooms you have? I just have
one bedroom. They're all single senior citizens apartments, all right? Now,
do you know what that that would rent for on
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an open market, free market. You've paid three four thousand
dollars the dollars a month up the block from me
for a two bedroom. I know what. This neighborhood is
very nice. I grew up there, Sean. I'm an expert
on Brooklyn. Yeah, and there you are on national television.
The last segment of our show, we call Last Call,
and we let one of the viewers have the last word,
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and then you called me the most dangerous man in America?
Yet again, where did that come from? Well, Sean, you
know you have a very eloquent voice. Your people who
listen to you are sincere they're wonderful Americans. But you know, Sean,
we need a whole new approach here. We don't need
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less people voting, We need more people voting. We need
more pay for our workers. So what if I wasn't
in this building, where would I live? In the street.
I don't want you in the street. But you know,
so what we have is taxpayers. I mean, you've been
an able body. You worked your whole life, didn't you. Yes,
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of course I did. But I couldn't afford to live
in my hometown. Well, I mean sometimes if you can't afford,
I had this experience in life. I had to live
outside of where whatever city I was in because I
couldn't afford to live anywhere else. Well, I got some lucky, Sean.
My mother lived in this building for thirty eight years,
I said in my application, and they called me to
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move in. I am a lucky man, and seniors need
more health, not less. I'm not I'm not mad. I'm happy,
you're happy. We love you mo as you my friend.
I don't know what am I supposed to say. Of course,
I want my safe and secure. The very latist, more
documents and the double standard of treatment as it relates
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to Joe Biden top secret classified information versus Donald Trump,
Ted Cruz, Greg Jarrett, Alan Dershowitz, Kelly and Conway, Ari Fleischer,
Judge Denim will join us tonight. Giano Calwell thrown out
of a restaurant because the owner didn't like the fact
that he's a conservative and African American conservative. Really in
this day and age. He'll tell us his story and
(31:32):
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can win back the Americans that liberalism failed. It's all happening.
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All right, news, round up, information overload hour toll free
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on number. We'll get to your calls at the bottom
of a half hour eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn,
if you want to be a part of the program.
So I really can tell you that, thanks to all
of you listening to this radio show and seven hundred
stations strong now watching the TV show, that I found
my passion the first day I ever got behind a
radio microphone. That first day, it was it always done.
(00:24):
My life was over. If I had to pick a
life that somebody that I know that I am just
I admire so much and would want to live myself,
it would be Mike Pompale's life. We first met when
he was a congressman. We met I've never had been
to Langley before when he was the CIA director, and
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he was very gracious to let me go over and
see Langley, which was pretty cool, you know, just everything
you see in a Jason Bourne movie basically. And then
he became Secretary of State at a very critical point
in American history, you know, dealing with the likes of
you know, Little rocket Man and Vladimir Putin and President
She and all his life experiences are paths across many
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many times. I was in Helsinki, I was in Vietnam,
I was in Singapore. And I've known him since. He's
a congressman. He's also a dear friend. He may be
running for president. We'll ask him in a second. But
he wrote a book and I really have started it.
I really can't put it down. It's never given inch
fighting for the America that I love. And it talks
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a lot about the experiences that he's had both the
CIA director and Secretary of State, and his life. Isn't
incredible Mike Pompeo, dear friend, welcome back to the program.
How are you, sir Sean. I'm doing great. Thank you,
thanks for those kind words, and thanks for having me
on to talk about my book. What an incredible life
you have led. First of all, let me start with
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the CIA. I'm if I could be a spy. I
would love to be a spy. I'm fascinating by that
entire world. And the thing is, you really can't tell
me much of what you know about what's really going
on in the world, can you. A lot of that
is quiet for a reason, I will say to say,
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it doesn't get it right. Every day but the men
and women who are out there, you met them when
you went out to Langley. These are patriots try and
every day to just be free, to put a dagger
in their teeth and get out and protect America. And
so it was a wonderful opportunity to lead them, to
take risks on the side of them, and to deliver
really good intelligence for the President of United States of America.
At the time, President Trump was an America first president.
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President Trump had made a commitment to get out of
long protracted conflicts abroad, both by the way, everything that
they had promised he fulfilled. He defeated the ISIS Caliphate,
which I don't think he got enough credited for, and
he did it systematically. You got you were there, You've
met Kim Jong un, You've met Ladimir, You've met President she.
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You discuss all of this in the book. Let's talk
a little bit about the people, the evil actors on
the world stage. All three the ones that I mentioned,
I would view as hostile regimes, hostile actors. Um you
didn't really have the best words to say for any
of them. Let's start with Vladimir Putin. You said he
can be funny, he's funny, but he's a train KGB agent.
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You know, it's exactly what he's doing. I've been criticized
for saying he's smart, but you know, Sean, we have
to respect our adversaries. We have to love them, don't
like what they're doing. But you can't call isis the
JV because you're gonna get people's heads cut off. You see. Yeah,
you said he he said he's funny, but you also
said he's evil, and you're right, he's evil. Yeah, that's right.
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He's evil and his intention to conquer greater Europe has
never wavered. What wavered was his perception of American leadership.
And for four years we convinced Ladimir Putin that it
wasn't worth a candle. Right, he takes Cremia twenty fourteen,
twenty fifteen, it doesn't move on Europe for four years,
and then he goes back at it with President Putin
didn't change American leadership change and then never give an inch.
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I write about the tools we used of American power.
We didn't, Sean, we didn't send the eighty second airport,
we didn't set a marine division. We used American power
to protect and secure America. One of the things that
I found interesting is before you met him, it was
clear he studied you, and that, you know, on the
reverse side of that, you studied him. When when you're
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preparing for a summit like that or a meeting like
that with you know, one of our biggest geopolitical foes,
what does that entail? Oh goodness, I did. I spent
it would have been a couple of months preparing for
my first meeting with him, trying to learn everything we
know who's met with him before. In the book, I
talked about the fact never given to take the fact
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that Dennis Rodman was the American record holder for spending
time with Chairman Kim. He coached the North Korean basketball team,
and so we read what he had told us about
his visits. We read the histories about Chairman Kim's childhood,
he studied in Switzerland, and then all that the Intelligence
Committee had been able to collect so that we had
as good an understanding of how he thought about his
country so that we could deliver for hours. So when
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you meet with Plutin, you know, he's calculating. You know,
at times it was a tense discussion. At other times
it was more lighthearted. I know you can't get into
specifics for national security concerns, but what can you tell us, No,
Plutin was a special difficult case for us because the
Trump administration lived under the Russia hooks for the first
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two and a half years of our time, right where
New York Times Washington posts were out, and Adam Scheffut
telling this false narrative about Trump and everyone in his
orbit being a Russian asset. So the meetings with him
were complicated by that fact. He was serious in his result,
but he that we were different cats, that we were
different from the president that he had dealt with previously,
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and so I think his perception of risk was just
really really different. He was talking to us. Remember, we
have lots of places we come into contact with Russians.
We came into contact with them in Syria, and when
they crossed our red line and sent troops across the
Euphrates River, we took out three hundred five years soldiers.
I think those are the kinds of things to send
a message to. Putin had said, this is not my moment,
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and that's how you protect America and make it more
prosperous without big adventurous American diplomacy. You know, I'm often
called a warmonger by folks on the left. The trip
is we were just the opposite of that. We built
at a peace regime in the Middle East, in Asia
and in Europe that served us well and for four
years we had no new war. Shan, we took down
to Califoratia. It was a pretty successful run. Let me
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go into the issues involving him. Did you were you
surprised by Ukraine and his invasion? And here's my analysis,
and it's based in part on what sources have told me,
my own observations, and my own you know, reading of
press reports. I got the sense that Donald Trump spoke
so freely to Putin that you know, he would say things,
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if you do A, I will do B and B
would be so it would be such a colossal, you know,
promise that I think Putin was probably maybe taken aback.
Maybe there was only one percent of him that thought
this guy might be crazy enough to do what he's
saying it was and there was a certain fear factor
with Trump. Maybe if it was only one percent, maybe
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this guy is crazy enough to do something like that.
Was that real? Shan? You have it largely right. This
is a classic Reagan deterrence. Bottle right, there's a peace
through strength, and we delivered that. And your point is
well taken. The messages that we sent to the Russians
weren't headlines in the newspaper. They were private conversations about
the things we really cared about, the things that made
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it different. Things we were prepared to defend. There are
other things, you know, you all want to go do that, okay,
But on the things that mattered to Americans safe, we
were pretty clear and we told them what our expectation
was and what the cost of that would be if
he went down that path. And I think that's why
we were able to keep him in the box for
our four years, including Ukraine. Everybody knew at that time
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he had territorial ambitions for Ukraine. Those conversations I assume
came up in those meetings. Absolutely, No, you're Sean, You've
got it exactly right. Putin hasn't changed your point about
his territorial ambitions. That is a throughout proposition for his
whole life. What changed was his perception of risk. And
when Biden says a mayor incursion is okay, or walks
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US out of Afghanistan in the most humiliating way you
can imagine, with the lost thirteen American life. Putin says,
this is my time, and you got to worry about
the impact. How is the how is President she reading?
What's going on with Ukraine. I'll get to that in
a minute. Let me talk a little bit. I was there.
I actually saw you in Singapore. I'm sure you don't remember,
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during the summit in twenty eighteen, and you were I
was actually laughing. You may actually met little rocket man
Kim Jong un. You referred to him as a small, sweating,
evil dictator from North Korea, but you also studied him
in terms of, you know, crediting him that he was smart, savvy, ruthless.
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And I remember at the time people were upset that
Donald Trump was even meeting with him. And I said, folks,
what did Donald Trump give Kim Jong um? Nothing except
his time, But we got the remains of Americans from
the Korean War back. He stopped firing his missiles every
other day, and a relationship developed, and the world, in
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that sense was a little safer because of a rapport
that was built. To me, it was a brilliant strategy
absolutely brilliant and well executed too, and never given into
the book. I talk about the three hostages we got
back as well shot too. Yeah. Yeah. In front of
the book, we actually have a statement from one of
the hostages, in his own words, in thought he was
being released. He shows up at the tarmac and there
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is this of a white over blue American aircraft with
an American seal audit. This is American part. We didn't sean,
we didn't apologize, we didn't pay a penny, and with
those three Americans out, no policy there worked delivered for
the American people, and it reduced an awful out of
risk here at home. And Trump joked that Elton John's
song rocket Man was a great song, and he really
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meant that his compliment that was hilarious. Yeah, Jairmy Kim
saw right through that. He had his own response. What
I would vaguely remember him saying something along the lines
of your rocketman, okay, little rocket man, not okay, which
is pretty good. So I would argue and correct me
if you think I'm wrong that America's number one geopolitical
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foe today is China. That's what concerns me so much
about the Bidens and the family business and the one
point five billion dollar deal with the Bank of China,
a deal on sending natural gas to China, a five
million dollars no interest forgivable loan. I'm sure you would
love those terms yourself, and everybody listening would. Yeah, you
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can't get that deal. Um so, but you really you
referred to what did you say about President Sheet That
he was dour um just kind of dead eyed to you,
I think is the term you used. Yeah, he was
of all the senior leaders I met with, he was
the most difficult to penetrate. He had this he had
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a blank space. He was difficult and nasty. In every conversation,
there were no there were no like moments in my
conversations with him. It was it was all serious, and
he always had this chip on his shoulder. I think
he understood deeply that our model was a superior model.
But he was determined to try and make America be
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a nation in decline. And you could read that and
feel that in every it oozed from him every time
I met with him. Well, apparently he made a call
to Trump demanding you give hired over comments you made
about COVID. Yeah, that's that's exactly right. My comments were
actually about the Chinese comment is party more broadly, but
on a phone call in the time that COVID was
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wearing its ugly head here in America, he just railed
on me, and he would have probably known I was
on the call. The call was between the two leaders,
but he would have known I was on the calling
when when the call ended, President Trump called me back
and that that haff and guy hate you, and which
I by the way, that's a badge of honor. I
like that. Maybe so, But in any event, it was
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as closure as I think as I've ever come as
I heted to get a fired shot. Uh you got
a little bit of refend. You posted a picture quote
what you describe as a completely innocent photo of his
dog cuddling a well chewed Winnie the Pooh toy. Uh yeah, yeah,
having some fun, just having some fun. He doesn't like
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the fact he's been compared to that he looks like
Whinney the Pooh. And so we have two to build retrievers,
and one of them at a wanted the poop puppy,
And I just thought, boy, that that's funny to watch
my dog play so and put it up on Twitter.
It was it was a little bit fun. I had
my own discussions with Dennis Rodman and he gave me
some insights into a little rocket Man too. Let me
talk about just real quickly, the state of the world
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as you see it today. I think I speak for
a lot of conservatives, and I'm angry that our Western
European and NATO allies don't do most of the contributing
as it relates to Ukraine. That's in their backyard, on
our backyard, and no. Conservatives are angry because it doesn't
seem like we're fighting that war to win it and
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we're paying the bulk of money. And why doesn't Why
doesn't NATO, Why doesn't Western Europe? Why don't they understand
this is a existential threat to them? So that's a
long running problem. The videotape from I think it was
the spring of eighteen, or maybe it's the fallow two eighteen,
with President Trump and I sitting the NATO leadership demanding
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that they defend themsel right, that they don't depend on
Russian gas. We told them time and time again, this
is going to end badly. We wouldn't we wouldn't have
done exactly how But we've got forty years we say Europe,
really France in Germany, the two big economies there under
investing in their own defense. And you can see this
coming back to kick them in the head. Now, No,
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that's for the conflict. There's there's only one way we're
going to stop the killing this taking place there. There's
only one way we're going to prevent to continue ratcheting
up with pain on Europe. And that just means we're
gonna have to provide the Ukrainians the tools they need
to actually achieve an outcome that is permanent and lasting.
All Right, I got I want to hold you through
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the break if you can give me just a couple
of minutes here. Um, the book is phenomenal. I really
only have two big questions for you. You know what
one of them is. So we'll get to Mike Pompeio
on the other side. His new book is out, Never
Given Inch, Fighting for the America. I love Hannity dot com,
Amazon dot com, bookstores everywhere, and we'll get to more
(15:00):
with the former secretary in a minute. I hope we
come back, Mike Pompey. I have a few more questions
for him. On the other side, he's worked in the
CIA's worked in Congress, and he's worked at Secretary of State.
I want to get his thoughts on the issue of
a deep state, Does it exist, how does it? How
do we deal with it in the end, and the
investigations obviously going on by Jim Jordan and Jim call
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me also, is he running for president? A lot of
speculation he might be. We'll talk to him about that
and much more on the other side as we continue.
When news breaks, you get the inside story that no
one else has and the behind the scenes chatter that
the mainstream media doesn't even know about. This is the
(15:42):
Sean Hannity Show. I twenty five down to the top
of the hour. Thank you for being with us. Eight
hundred nine for one, Shawn our number if you want
to be a part of the program. I said two questions,
but I'm gonna invoke talk show host privilege here and
make it three more questions. A former Secretary of State,
former CIA director, former Congressman Mike Pompeo is with us.
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You've got a great new book out gives you a
lot of insight into the foreign policy adventures. You might
want to call them during the Trump years. Never give
an inch fighting for the America that I love. Uh,
mister secretarist, thanks for staying with us. It's on Amazon
dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores everywhere. UM. First question
is the obvious one. There's been a lot of talk
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speculation you may be running for president. Are you thinking
about it? I am Sean, Susan, my wife Susan and
I are praying, trying to figure out if this is
the right time and we're the right folks to leave
the country forward. We'll get to we'll get to the
long and then if we decide we're going to go
do it, we'll add to Iowa to I'm sure South
Carolina and begin to make the case with two American people.
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I had. It's to me it's a little early to
be talking about twenty twenty four. I feel like we
just got out of an election cycle. But UM, I
asked Nicky Haley on Friday a question, I'll ask you
the same one. So both of you work for President Trump.
President Trump is the only announced candidate, and my question
is where do you see differences between Trump policies America First,
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make America great Again policies versus your policies. What's different. Goodness,
a lot of them would be in the space I
wasn't operating in Sean. It would be in the way
we think about the American economy. We need to the
Trump admistration to spend an awful lot of money. We're
now thirty two thirty one trillion dollars in the hole,
and so there is a lot of work to fix that.
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Our kids and our grandkids. We live in a very
different America if we keep blowing two trillion dollars in
tet on top of the United States every year. And
that's the security issues. There aren't a whole lot of
differences in terms of how I would deliver. But I
do think it's really important that we speak to the
American people about it in a way that we're different
than we sometimes did in the Trump administration. All Right,
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so let me ask you this because I think this
is very very important. Look, primaries are going to be primaries.
Whoever gets in, it's in, and at the end of
the day, it's going to be able to Republican voters.
Here's a question that I think you would probably be
the most able to answer, But I'm not sure if
he can and I believe that we now have an
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FBI sadly that's been politicized. I'll give you two quick
examples and adj that's weaponized. In twenty sixteen, Bruce Orr
warned everybody not to trust the dossier, that it was
a political document and it wasn't verified. That was in
August twenty sixteen. In early October of twenty sixteen, the
FBI sent agents abroad to meet with Christopher Steele, the
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author of the bought and paid for Russian dossier that
has now been debunked, as you know, and they were
never able to give him a million dollar bounty that
they offered him. So by the end of October, they
use the bulk of information in the FISA application to
spy on Carter Page and backdoor their way into the
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Trump campaign and then later presidency. They used that document.
And Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director, even said without
the dossier, they never would have had the FISA warrant approved.
My question is is simple. And then in twenty twenty,
you know, we know big tech companies were meeting weekly
with FBI representatives, headed up by an agent that wrote
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a thesis in twenty sixteen that Donald Trump, how Donald
Trump and Russia colluded for him to win in twenty sixteen,
So obviously there's a bias. They gave Twitter three and
a half million dollars, but they kept warning all these
big tech companies, hey, be on the lookout for disinformation
from foreign adversaries. They might even talk about Hunter Biden
and they mentioned that name. The head of the site
(19:43):
integrity at Twitter, by by the name of mister Roth,
you know, testified to that case. And what was its
in a Missouri case, Eric Schmidt was running the case
of the time. So my question is is there a
deep state? The answer is yes. It's a little de
for instance, some folks think about it, but this is
you have and I'll speak directly to the State Department.
(20:04):
I want to talk about the FBI stuff, but the
State Department, your state department that doesn't execute the president's
mission set. They resisted nearly everything that we tried to do,
whether it was the Abraham Chords of the strike on
Constum Solamani, the list goes on. They were they were
their own little blob, their establishment blob, and that is
deeply dangerous to the United States of America. And so
(20:24):
we've got to I have a theory of the case
on how one can fix this. It would start with
just being able to fire every single one of them
if you needed to. They didn't do their job just
like you would do in your business. Shot get rid
of them. You know your point on the FBI is
a good one, and never give an inch. I write
about January sixth, two thousand and seventeen, I was still
just remember Congress, but I was the nominee to b
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C director And when you read the story of what Clapper,
Komey and Brennan did to Donald Trump at Trump Tower
that day, they basically called him in and briefed him
and said you're a Russian asset, and they knew it
wasn't true. And there I was. I was asked to
be there because I carried a top secret security clearance
because of my time on the House Intelligence Committee. And
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I remember thinking, you just undermined what the American people
just voted for. January sixth, twenty seventeen, was a seminal
day as I watched really Comey and Clapper behave in
ways that were unconscionable, and they knew it couldn't have
been true. But they kept signing them. I mean, you know,
they've since had hearings where everyone that signed onto the
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FIS application that we now know was unverifiable because it
was never true. They all walked. There were no consequences
for anybody. It's unbelievable. The fact that McCabe, who even
the FBI saidline, hasn't been held accountable is deeply Unamerican.
This I hope. I hope Congress will get after this.
I hope Kemmy Jordan and his team will get after
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this the same way he and I chased down Hillary
Clinton on Benghazi. The American people at the very least
need to know what their FBI did under the leadership
of Director. Coming to me, I think we're at the
point where it's sort of like where you have to
have a church committee. You know. One of the things
I've always enjoyed, We've had a good friendship relationship. I
had no hesitancy asking you if I had a doubt
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about a certain person and if you could give me guidance,
and you would always tell me the truth if you
if you could, there occasions you could absolutely no, no,
every time I could absolutely no. We need our government
to be responsive, not political, and we saw Brennan did
the same thing out at CIA. He made a political
he knew the steel Dotier shouldn't have been included in
(22:31):
that report, and he bypassed and I read about this
and never given and he bypassed the analytical process to
do that. This is inconsistent with how leaders should behave
and all of them are out now making money, talking
on talk shows, continuing to proper their lives to the
American people. Is there any truth to this notion, this idea.
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We've had people in the intelligence community on this show
that make an allegation that there is you know, all
these databases, the accumulation of all data, every text, every email,
every phone call, uh data mining and saving all this stuff.
Is that really happening or is that total? Bs sean?
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The substance of phone calls all that I saw and
I never saw in either role. I never saw anyone
that was collecting what you're describing that right, which is
that they can sort of replay every phone call from two, five,
ten years ago. I never saw any evidence of that. Mike.
It's a fascinating book. What I'm not kidding, What a
great life you've led and I know you're just beginning,
but Mike Pompeo's new book, Never Given Inch, Fighting for
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the America. I love. Uh, we really appreciate your time.
I appreciate your friendship. Thank you, Yes, sir, thank you.
I'm a good day you too. It's on Amazon dot com,
Hannity dot com, bookstores everywhere. Uh. Fascinating and a fascinating
It's what life is. Wouldn't you'd love to be in
the room with Putin and Chee and Kim Jong Lun
and little rocket Man and and and know all of
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our nation's secrets. I'd love to know all that. I'm
going to take a hard pass on that and say
I'm so glad it was Pompeyo and not me. I'm
all set with not being an room that sounds like
it just sounds. I mean, I think it takes a
very special person to walk into that room and to
be calm and to be collected and understand that you
are meeting with the enemy and that there is a
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greater means to an end, and that you get you know,
you get more bees with honey at the end of
the day. Right. Well, I mean, I think what I
said at one point is you know, conveyed to me
through a different sources, is that Donald Trump was no
holds barred. Donald Trump said you do this, I'm going
to do that, and what that was was usually extreme.
Well what the brea can always say, piece through strength. Yeah,
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nobody's afraid of us right now. But that was the
whole point. I think that. And you know, one of
the things that I would say is an asset that
maybe some people look at as as a deficit for
Trump is that this is a certain level of he
might be crazy enough to do that. And I don't
think any the president in the modern era short of Reagan,
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had that strength, had that ability to create that strength. Well,
if you do it, I'm just gonna have to respond
in kind. And I and let's look at me. I
mean what I say, I will do it. Well. I
think also in the case of some of two of
the people that were talking about right now, they had
private business, they had private lives, they had lives before
they were politicians. You know, you have somebody like Joe
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Biden who has literally been a politician for forty eight
years of his life and has accomplished absolutely nothing. And
then you look at Trump, whether you like him or not,
who was a very accomplished businessman and knew how to negotiate.
And I'm sure at times he was ruthless and other
times he was a mitigator, and he played whatever role
needed to be played to get the deal done. Hence
the art of the deal. Yeah, well, sudden, all right,
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let's get to our busy phones. Eight hundred nine one,
Shawn our number. Andrew's in the Free State of Florida.
A lot of Florida calls today. What's up, Bandrew? How
are you okay? Great? Hope you are. Thank you for
your service. I know it's a fashion for you, so
I know you work your team off, but you do
a fantastic job. Thank you. Add it's your passion. But
last week you were talking about the world of economic forms.
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You know, it's such a big group of you know, gazillionaires.
And the only thing that I feel like I can
do I look at the companies that involved with that,
I absolutely boycott them. I don't buy, they don't get
a cent from me. And that's the only thing that
I feel like I can do to dry to alcohol
and in them a little bit, you know, to knock
them down a notch and if everybody did it, maybe
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they'd get started getting the message. But boycott, boycott, boycott
on people that are funding all of these crazy policies.
So that was one comment that I wanted to make.
And the other is these people like Mike Pompey was
talking about Adam Schiff, these outright there's falsehoods. There's got
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to be some consequence for that. You know, you get
dejected from the Senate. You're not just censored, but something's
got to happen. And it just blows my mind that
that people can say complete falsehoods and it just gets
sucked under the rug and nobody does it, you know,
when you can vote. But well, we're getting some work
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done now. I kept telling everybody, Well, one, I did
not have the exuberance attack that many had about the
mid term elections. I've been very dubious about how elections
are being run by Democrats, and I'm now saying it loudly,
and I want everyone to hear me. Unless Republicans match
what the Democrats are doing in terms of elections, both
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in raising money for the negative ads and number two,
investing in the ballot harvesting operations that forty nine states
allowed by law and following the law. Unless we do
and match and do it better than the Democrats, you
can say goodbye to winning a lot of races. We
thought we should win, but secondly I didn't. And you
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got to give up your reluctance to voting earlier by mail. Yeah,
but yeah, we can't. We know what they do and
we got to fight. We got sight harder than make you.
It's forth to fight. I just want to say thanks
for your service. Oh, thank you, sir. You make this happen,
not me. I appreciate it. It's my honor. Oh no,
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you know the liberal How did you get on TV?
How did you get through? Who put you through? Who?
You know? That was done just to mess with me?
How are you? Sir? I called Sean? I dial that number.
Sometimes I get lucky. I'm a very lucky man. You're lucky,
all right, lucky? Literally? I bet you live in a
rent control department, don't you. I live in the senior
(28:35):
citizens apartment in Brooklyn named Bishop Boardman. Yeah, the Bishop bill.
Thirty three of them in Brooklyn durned the eighties, and
I'm glad to be here. It's like winning the lottery. Honestly, Well,
let me ask you, what do you pay for your
rent every month? If I may ask, you don't have
to answer if you don't want. My rent is four
hundred dollars a month. I live in Park Slope, Brooklyn. Yes,
(28:58):
a hundred dollars. You know what the market rate is
for your apartment? How many bedrooms? Mister, dollars? Is a
top rent in this building? Okay, but but that's not
my point. How many bedrooms you have? I just have
one bedroom. They're all single senior citizens apartments, all right? Now,
do you know what that that would rent for on
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an open market, free market. You've paid three four thousand
dollars the dollars a month up the block from me
for a two bedroom. I know what. This neighborhood is
very nice. I grew up there, Sean. I'm an expert
on Brooklyn. Yeah, and there you are on national television.
The last segment of our show, we call Last Call,
and we let one of the viewers have the last word,
(29:40):
and then you called me the most dangerous man in America?
Yet again, where did that come from? Well, Sean, you
know you have a very eloquent voice. Your people who
listen to you are sincere they're wonderful Americans. But you know, Sean,
we need a whole new approach here. We don't need
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less people voting, We need more people voting. We need
more pay for our workers. So what if I wasn't
in this building, where would I live? In the street.
I don't want you in the street. But you know,
so what we have is taxpayers. I mean, you've been
an able body. You worked your whole life, didn't you. Yes,
(30:25):
of course I did. But I couldn't afford to live
in my hometown. Well, I mean sometimes if you can't afford,
I had this experience in life. I had to live
outside of where whatever city I was in because I
couldn't afford to live anywhere else. Well, I got some lucky, Sean.
My mother lived in this building for thirty eight years,
I said in my application, and they called me to
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move in. I am a lucky man, and seniors need
more health, not less. I'm not I'm not mad. I'm happy,
you're happy. We love you mo as you my friend.
I don't know what am I supposed to say. Of course,
I want my safe and secure. The very latist, more
documents and the double standard of treatment as it relates
(31:11):
to Joe Biden top secret classified information versus Donald Trump,
Ted Cruz, Greg Jarrett, Alan Dershowitz, Kelly and Conway, Ari Fleischer,
Judge Denim will join us tonight. Giano Calwell thrown out
of a restaurant because the owner didn't like the fact
that he's a conservative and African American conservative. Really in
this day and age. He'll tell us his story and
(31:32):
we'll talk about his book, Taken for Granted, How conservatism
can win back the Americans that liberalism failed. It's all happening.
Nine eiestern tonight, Hannity Fox. Hope you'll join us, see
you tonight. Back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this
show possible.
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